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This Packer Week the Most Important Week of Marc Trestman’s Professional Coaching Life

| November 3rd, 2014

“I think every team at some point faces a little bit of adversity in the season, and the measure of that team is how they react to that adversity,” [George] McCaskey said. “We’ll see what these guys are made of. We have every confidence in Phil and Marc and the players to pull us out of this.”

-From a Michael C. Wright piece for ESPN

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Ponder this question when someone asks if you believe the Bears would consider firing Marc Trestman at the end of the 2014 season. What is the worse crime: changing the offensive system on quarterback Jay Cutler for the 212th time during his tenure in Chicago or potentially wasting another season of one of the NFL’s best collections of offensive talent?

Because that question exists, because it can be asked, the next seven days are the most important seven days of Marc Trestman’s professional coaching career.

Now presented are two outcomes for Sunday evening.

Outcome #1: Bears beat Packers

If the Bears leave Lambeau Field with a win Sunday evening there will be an alarming confidence leaking out the windows of Halas Hall as early as Monday morning. The win would move the Bears to 4-5 with home games against the Vikings and Bucs to follow. (Bears would be around touchdown favorites in both contests.) A win Sunday night, coupled with this easier schedule, can pivot the season in a positive direction and call off the Fire Everyone dogs. It could also  conceivably set the stage for a 6-5 Bears team playing to assert themselves into the playoff picture on Thanksgiving.

Outcome #2: Packers crush Bears

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CANDIDATES START TO EMERGE

It will not take long for the buzzards to start circling the decaying carcass should the Bears suffer another national embarrassment. The talk will change from “should the Bears dismiss Trestman” to who should replace him. The names you’ll hear:

  • If Michigan does not throw $10M a year at Jim Harbaugh then someone in the NFL is going to start offering draft picks to acquire his services. Harbaugh’s antics wear out a franchise and roster but he wins and right now that’s all Bears fans want. (I also think Harbaugh-Cutler would have shades of Ditka-Harbaugh.)
  • What if the Bears decided Trestman’s personality and demeanor were the problem? Might they look into bringing in a defensive-minded head coach like Rex Ryan (for historic symmetry) or Todd Bowles while convincing Aaron Kromer to remain as the offensive coordinator? Kromer is under contract and this would eliminate the biggest issue with letting Trestman go: system change.
  • Nobody believes more in Jay Cutler than Mike Shanahan and Shanny has made it very clear he does not want his awful experiences in Washington to be the end of his NFL coaching career. Shanahan’s track record of draining every ounce of potential from a run game while understanding how to utilize Cutler’s skill set would immediately put the offense back on track. But what would his defensive approach be? (Wanna read some old school Tribune reporting on McCaskey, Bowlen, Shanahan, Ditka…etc.? CLICK HERE.)

These are by no means the only viable approaches. But these are the ones you’ll start hearing in the very near future should the Bears lose Sunday night.

Even though individuals like Dan Bernstein and David Haugh “exist” in Chicago, almost every coach imaginable wants the Bears job. (Boomer Esiason has mentioned on his NY-based radio program the Bears and Giants are only two teams Bill Cowher would consider if returning to coaching.) It comes with hurdles, mostly jackasses like the aforementioned, but winning means a football and financial legacy unparalleled in the NFL. Win a Super Bowl as Bears coach, open steakhouses with your name on them. That happens NOWHERE ELSE. Nobody eats at Holmgren’s Ham Hocks in Green Bay or Cowher’s Chowder House in Pittsburgh.

All About Trestman

Marc Trestman spent a majority of his life navigating the shallow coaching waters of college, the NFL and Canada. Thirty-three years after joining Howard Schnellenberger’s staff at the University of Miami, Trestman is running one of the game’s legendary franchises. He has reached the mountaintop. But he is learning quickly that thirty-three years of climbing can be nullified by stepping on the wrong stone atop that mountain.

From Jason La Canfora at CBS:

The Bears are in a state of crisis, according to several sources with knowledge of the locker room, with a leadership void further fueling their downward spiral. Players are tuning coach Marc Trestman out, according to numerous sources, there has been increased in-fighting in recent weeks and the team’s dedication has been called in to question at times by players and coaches alike, sources said.

States of crisis come from losing. Leadership voids occur on losers. In-fighting and tuning out of coaches may happen inside winning locker rooms but nobody cares. Winning cures all. Winning quiets critics. Winning silences the “sources” that fill column space across the NFL media landscape.

Trestman must win Sunday night at Lambeau Field, not only because at 3-6 the Bears season is over. Trestman must win Sunday night because if he does not the noise around him will only grow louder and in Chicago that noise can be suffocating. It may not only be a one-game season. It may be one game to keep his job.

Because when an NFL team heads towards the iceberg the players become rats on the Titanic. The only difference is these rats start texting Adam Schefter and blaming the captain.

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  • Peanut FTW

    It was a bit refreshing to see the Broncos get spanked nearly as bad as us.

  • CanadaBear

    Yes rats are the first to flee a sinking ship. That’s because they are the first to know it’s sinking.

  • Peanut FTW

    This is the first year that being a Bears fan is seeming fairly similar to being a Cubs fan. I know they will lose, but I watch anyway; then halfway through the season I begin to try and find a player I really like on another team I can pull for or think about who I would like to see as the next coach or starting pitcher. So frustrating; I guess Cowher would be one to hope for but why would he be an option now and not two years ago?

    • TheBigCheesy

      That’s a good point about COwher

    • DaBearsBlog

      He didn’t want to coach two years ago. New wife. New TV job.

      • Peanut FTW

        I guess the point still stands, unless he is really missing coaching and has a new burning desire to get back into it, I don’t see how next year is any different than 2 years ago. Plus, what does he really have to gain? If he stays retired, he keeps a 2 day a week for 20 weeks job and is always thought of as one of the great coaches. If he comes back, he goes back to everyday work for probably 40 weeks a year and a ton more headaches, plus there’s an option the team could fail miserably and tarnish his career’s reputation.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          NO Coach has won a championship with 2 different teams.

    • CanadaBear

      I’ve been a Cubs fan forever. Nothing compares to the futility of being a Cubs fan. Their roster could have 25 HOF’ers in their prime and I still wouldn’t like their chances. You always have hope but deep down you know something will happen. I get that with the Bears from time-to-time but never 24/7.

      Once most of those coaches get the taste of the good life on TV, their competitive fires burn out. If they are on TV for more than a season or two, they ain’t coming back or if they do, they are a shell of their former selves.

  • TheBigCheesy

    I don’t disagree about the Bears coaching job being attractive……I would assume it is perhaps the most prized in football… but don’t you think Ditka’s “Ditkaness” has a lot to do with his cult of personality? Do you think Chicago would open a steakhouse (or French Gastropub?) for Marc Trestman if he won a Superbowl?

    Also, I think Jim Harbaugh would love to coach the Bears in the city of Chicago. But I doubt he’d be thrilled with Jay Cutler on the books for $36 million over the next two years. I know you see the current bears roster as an attractive quality but I think the Cutler contract would give some in-demand coaches pause.

    Finally, is there any truth to the accusation that the McCaskey’s refuse to higher another coach with a huge personalitythat might push and stand up to ownership/management? It seems like most of the beat guys all assert that with certainty. That would seem to rule out Harbaugh and Rex Ryan (and Cowher).

    • Peanut FTW

      I think the answer to both ?s is yes. Ditka was a player and a coach, and had that blue collar toughness associated with the city itself which had a ton to do with his cult following. But, if Nessman gets this thing flipped around so fast that they won a Superbowl, there could be a Trestman’s Burger Joint before the start of next season.

      • Trac

        When the planets align and stand still for a year the moon would get all the credit. Ditka/85 Bears was a once in a lifetime cosmic event, it will never happen again.

    • DaBearsBlog

      I think Harbaugh would love Cutler.

      I think all of the McCaskey reports are ridiculous. They are invisible as an ownership group for most of the year. They want to win.

      • The Bears’ ownership is still being bashed for outdated sentiments. They’re not cheap anymore, and they basically hired Emery to run the franchise.

        • CanadaBear

          They aren’t cheap when it comes to the players. Not sure about coaches and FO. They always seem to hire first time coaches and first time GM’s. Pretty sure if they can save a buck on coaches and the FO they are all over it.

          • most of the time, 1st time coaches and GMs are the way to go. Pretty sure no SB winning coach has ever won a SB with another team.
            It’s a game mostly won by those who are young and hungry. Not old and complacent.

          • Trac

            You forgot talented, innovative and proven track record. Oh that’s right, colleges no longer offer History and nobody’s interested in pesky facts anymore.

            #snarkycommentoftheday

          • BillW

            However there are a few coaches who succeeded at their second NFL team but not the first. Such as Belichick and Pete Carroll.

            Same with GMs – going back to Finks.

          • CanadaBear

            I don’t disagree JW but it dovetails nicely with not spending a lot.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          How can you be cheap in cap space era ?

          They hired Emery to run the franchise their way.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        If they want to win they should change to field turf for their finesse team, yesterday.

  • Bears-4-Ever

    Rex Ryan is a paper tiger. He’s nothing close to the smarts of his old man. Cowher would be awesome, but even Cowher would have a hard time with our defense in it’s current state. Yeah, he’s an awesome choice, I think Harbaugh and Shanahan can work as well but again, the Defense has to be fixed, and in “fixed” I mean gather some better tools in key positions and some good solid draft picks. This team can be turned around but it’s going to take the ownership to make the right decisions…and as many of you know I’m not to fond of or trusting of our ownership. “To dream the impossible dream…”

    • Teddy Agrees

      Teddy concurs!

  • Trac

    I still believe Tresty gets another year no matter what happens this season. Tucker on the other hand, he gone.

    Timing is evrathing. Reid, fox, Fischer would have this team in first place. If the McCaskeys don’t mind eating two years on Tresty contract then I think they could fire him this year but based on their history, I doubt that will happen.

    • CanadaBear

      The only way Nessman gets canned is if the team quits and we run the table in a bad way. Totally agree with you about some coaches getting canned, esp Tucker.

      • Peanut FTW

        Yah, as long as the offense can start scoring; I don’t think the record means much for anyone but Tucker.

        • CanadaBear

          Everyone should be held accountable but that’s never how it works. At season’s end Nessman will give some coaches the heave-ho. Next year if we suck again, PE will give Nessman the heave-ho. If we suck for another decade PE will get canned.

      • Scott W.

        No, I think they will have to clean house if this train wreck continues, Canada. The fans and media won’t let it go on another season. Jeff nailed it brilliantly when he described Trestman as having tread shallow waters his entire career. That was so very, very well put.
        I still can NOT understand how in the hell he was even hired in the 1st place.

        • BillW

          I have to say I was excited about the hire because I believed going offense was the way to go. I assumed (incorrectly) that his experience in Canada made him ready for this step. I also assumed he’d hire a decent coordinators. Then I assumed he’d have the guts to make tough decisions sooner rather than hoping things work out.

          • Scott W.

            I really had zero ideas about who he was. I do believe Jeff drilled it, as I mentioned.
            You know what strikes me here Bill, is that everyone wanted to fire Lovie (me included) in favor of a more aggressive coach with both offense and defense experience.
            When Lovie “clouds are nice” Smith was booted, I, stupidly, believed Emery would get an honest to God NFL caliber coach. I forgave Trestman everything last year. Mistakes, etc., he was just getting started.
            So we welcome him with open arms for year 2, he’s got enough talent on the offense to make atheists believe in God, and lo, we get 3-5.
            I have yet to see ONE reasonable argument for keeping him.
            Emery HIRED HIM. What a debacle. But that’s apparently okay with many (not just talking about board here) and oddly, some think Emery should not be held accountable.
            I find that bizarre. Emery is the REASON Trestman, Mr. QB/OFFENSE GURU, is even here.
            Jay Cutler? I admit, I am very disappointed in him. But I’ve lost all faith at this point in him as well.
            I am very very surprised it turned out this way.

          • BillW

            No argument – especially your last sentence.

        • CanadaBear

          Like the old saying goes, “When you start listening to the fans, you’ll be sitting with them soon enough.” Pretty sure PE can tune out the fans and media. Only if PE has totally lost faith in Nessman or the McCaskey’s insist (very unlikely but George is certainly more active than Mikey), Nessman stays. Don’t get me wrong, at this point I’m OK with him getting skidded.

          • Scott W.

            I don’t know Canada. I hear the old fan theme, etc., but Chicago is an entirely different market than the other 31. I think the fans do have a sway, as it were, just not authority.

          • BillW

            I was very dismayed to read Trestman (I think I saw it in PFT) say he has learned this year how passionate the fans are.

            Really? You just now learned that?

          • Scott W.

            His education is about to take a whole new turn inre the fans if he gets blown off the field in GB.
            And imagine the darkness if Minny trounces us…

          • Apparently, Trestman went through life believing passion is only channeled positively.
            Makes you wonder if he ever attended a football game.

        • SC Dave

          I’m sure you were saying that last season too…

          • Scott W.

            Saying what? That Trestman should be fired? No, Dave. I wasn’t. I was actually excited to see what he could do.
            Any other snarky assumptions I can help you with?

    • They ate Lovie’s last year. Lovie got $9M to watch clouds from home for a yr.
      Bucs might give him the same vacation if they fall apart any more.

      But man o man, taking Trestman over Arians might look like drafting Sam Bowie before Jordan.

      • johnnywad

        Brian Urlacher, Mike Brown and Tommie Harris made Lovie a fucking truckload of money.

  • BearDown100393

    The coordinators might be replaced however I highly doubt Phil Emery fires his head coach at season’s end regardless of the W-L record. To do so would indict and cast a shadow of suspicion over the survival of Emery’s own tenure.

    • Teddy Agrees

      Teddy agrees!

    • If this team completely melts down and only wins 1 more game, Emery might not have a choice. A McCaskey was raised from a cavern and spoke. That’s like awaking the Elders in “UnderWorld.” Shit tends to go down once that happens.
      If Emery fires Trestman, he might buy himself at least two more years. If he keeps Trestman and Trestman bombs again in 15, Emery will be going with him.
      Plus, I don’t believe Emery has done a horrible. This team IS talented.
      Emery got Bushrod. Marshall. Long. Fuller, Alshon, Young. Emery, unlike squirrel nuts, properly recognizes problems. First year, he prevented Cutler from getting Murdered and surrounded him with NFL level talent.
      2nd year, he threw everything into D (Just as we all believed he should).
      This season is so frustrating because this team is talented. We’re not the Raiders or the Jets talent wise, just coaching wise in my book.
      I’d give Emery another crack at it unless someone like Cowher wants in and to have GM powers.

  • Here’s the thing with the fire Trestman/keep Kromer idea:
    1) Limits who you can get at coach, because they want their own guys
    2) Is Kromer a good OC? I don’t think he is. More involved in O this year, O struggling. More involved in O in NO when Payton suspended, O struggled. He’s a SUPERB OL coach, probably the best in the NFL, but that’s all he is IMO.

    • Teddy Agrees

      Teddy reminds you that’s all that Mice Tice was!

      • BillW

        GP again?

        • Teddy Agrees

          No no no no no. My name is Ted.

          • BillW

            OK – Ted; glad to meet you. Can you introduce me to your lady friend who was offering the VCR training?

            Who’s coming out next? Sybil?

          • Teddy Agrees
          • CanadaBear

            GP you do realize this one-note joke has a very limited shelf life?

          • BillW

            He has more personalities than Sybil.

          • CanadaBear

            Not really.

          • Scott W.

            Well, TED, I’d just like to thank your alter ego for those forbes pieces a few threads back.
            That’s why we all love GP around here.
            I’m sure you’re a nice guy and all, but so is my neighbor.

  • BillW

    Saw your tweet Jeff, but there is no pulling back. You are saying if the Bears lose big to the Packers Trestman will be fired at year end. Which is equalivalent I think to saying he SHOULD be fired if that happens (and maybe even if it doesn’t).

    Everyone knows what I think should happen. But I don’t think Trestman WILL be fired no matter what happens Sunday.

    • BillW

      OK – so in fairness I read your piece more carefully and I see what you are saying. Not that he will or should be fired – merely that losing big will damage him essentially irreversibly with the media and most fans. And possibly players. Making him a defacto interim coach.

      That’s why it’s the most important week in his HC career.

  • Trac

    By the way, I disagree with Jeff on principle. Trestys most important year was the year he got hired by Emery. There will never be another year like that one. Hee hee.

  • BillW

    Here’s where I have trouble with this whole situation. Quite frankly, even though I feel Trestman is not qualified, judging him against NE and GB is unfair. They are simply not good enough – esp defensively. Rodgers scored on every possession against us except the blocked FG. I think NE did too – or almost all.

    Yes – the offense needs to make it more competitive and that’s where the disappointment comes from. But these games are difficult at best under any circumstances. I’d be willing to give the team a “pass” on this game – and judge them on the rest of the season.

    • TheBigCheesy

      What you’re saying is true. However, it’s the Bills, Panthers, and Dolphins losses that he’s going to be judged by if they lose to Green Bay. When those losses occurred, it was too early condemn them because there is so much season left. If you make up for “bad” losses with big wins, everything is gravy. If you don’t, then you have to look back to those “bad” losses.

      It’s kind of like this:

      Bears lose to Miami at home to drop to 3-4…

      Phil: goddammit Marc, we really needed that fucking game. I should probably can your ass. However, I’m gonna wait to see if you can pull out a miracle against NE or GB. If you can’t, your ass is out of here, and you can look at this game as the reason why.

      • BillW

        Yes – my point is given the loses to Buffalo, Carolina, and Miami, can Trestman turn this around or not. He can’t go back and win those games.

        It’s unfair (IMO) to judge him on a game on the road against a QB that has the talent and motivation (fighting for division title with a team they already lost to) to exploit a very weak defense.

        So to me, the Trestman watch begins the week after GB. (Even if they somehow pull it out.)

        • Peanut FTW

          I think the Buffalo game is a wash. We should have won it, we were in position to win it, we couldn’t put a drive together at the two points we needed to. Yes we should have won but I don’t see a sore thumb coaching issue in that game.
          Carolina, tricky; after the first Jay interception we still managed to put up a big lead. The D lets them back in, Jay makes a stupid ass decision and Matty uncharacteristically fumbles the ball late before we can put a final drive together.
          Again, I don’t know that you can use that game to indict Trestman. So Miami and NE were the two that I thought were beginning to make this Offense look less than pedestrian but after watching NE hold the Broncos to less points than our O and Miami shut out San Diego, I think the Jury is back out on the offense.

          • BillW

            Good analysis.

          • BerwynBomber

            Buffalo and EJ Manuel is a wash? I don’t see that at all. Buff, Carolina and Miami are the most damning losses of the season.

          • But how about starting a groin-less Jay last year when McCown was holding his own? Or playing too aggressively when he should play conservative, and vice-versa.

            Trestman just seems all over the place, and this team reflects it. We have no identity, no clear leader, and as such, no viable solution.

        • TheBigCheesy

          If he loses to GB and he wins 5 of the next 7 after that, it’s not enough. He’s already lost winnable games in the first half of the year. He has to log some huge road upsets (GB, DET) in order to make up for that.

          Even if you determine his fate after this week, that doesn’t mean you’re judging him by the GB game. You’re still judging him on Miami Buffalo and Carolina.

          Let’s just make some assumptions that may or may not be true:
          1. A loss at Green Bay ends playoff hopes for the Bears.
          2. Failure to make the playoffs is cause for termination

          Ok, so: He dug a huge hole in the first half of the season. He’s currently 10 feet deep with no ladder. At this point, even some of the great coaches would fail to find a way out. If the above assumptions are true, Emery might want to fire him on the bus ride home if they lose. In this situation, he’s still not judging Trestman on GB, he’s judging him on the whole season, and specifically those unforgivable early losses. In other words:

          He’s not firing Trestman for failing to find a way out of the whole, he’s firing him for digging the thing so fucking deep to begin with.

          • Peanut FTW

            I don’t recall exactly but I’m fairly certain Trestman didn’t get much say with Tucker for DC. Rod left town and they needed a 4-3 person who would run Lovie’s scheme for a year. Tucker happened to fit the mold. Now that it has become quite apparent that forcing Tucker to run Lovie’s scheme wasn’t the problem with the D last year; I think you have to give Trestman a shot with a DC that he actually picks.

          • TheBigCheesy

            That would be true if this year unfolded just like last year did. However, this year it’s the offense that is holding the team back. Sure, the defense is below average, but they can’t play much better than they have been. All of the money is on offense. And the money that is on defense belongs to overpaid free agents and veterans, which is the only way you can bring guys in on that side of the ball when your organizational philosophy your talent evaluators are offense-centric.

          • BillW

            By that logic Trestman should be fired now or right after the Miami game because there is no way to un-lose them.

            I can’t believe I’m defending Trestman, but your logic isn’t (logical).

            By definition, giving someone a chance to right a wrong or show what they have implies a “wrong” to begin with.

            You give the guy a chance to show he figured out what the problem was and fix it.

            If he goes 5 out of 7 after GB I’d say he did that. Mind you I don’t expect that to happen, but pulling everyone together for one blaze of glory against GB means nothing unless they ALSO go at least 4-3 the rest of the way.

          • TheBigCheesy

            No, Bill. Just no.

          • BillW

            OK – we’ll agree to disagree. Every person deserves a chance to redefine themselves (once) if the 1.0 version has too many bugs in it. Trestman’s once chance starts (but doesn’t end) Sunday.

          • Scott W.

            I’ve been screaming that. Just without the hole.

        • TheBigCheesy

          The Trestman watch is RIGHT NOW, because if they lose to Green Bay, it might just be too late.

          • BillW

            Be careful what you wish for – we might actually get a good coach one of these days.

          • Scott W.

            Yep. But I don’t think the GB game will define it on its own.

      • SC Dave

        Dolphins did not look too bad against San Diego.

        • BillW

          And we didn’t look too bad against SF and Atl.

          There is a certain craziness to this year without a doubt.

        • TheBigCheesy

          The Dolphin’s look good. But that Dolphin’s game was in Chicago. And Chicago didn’t just lose, they got rolled. The Bills also look like a competitive football team too.

          At the same time, look at who the Bears have beaten….

  • CanadaBear

    I see we get the BiQueens after their bye. By official tally, we will face 3 teams coming off their bye. GB (should be a push since we had a bye also), NE and Min. Besides all the rest of the schedule “irregularities”, it’s always nice to know the NFL has the Bear’s back. Fuckers.

    Also, I was so starved for some Bears content that I started to watch a clip of Wanny talking about the Bears. After about 10 seconds I realized I had lost my mind.

    • BillW

      I have read Rosenbloom and Haugh against my better judgement and always regretted it. But I’ve yet to hear a word Wanny has to say. I don’t think I could take it. If I ever was being interrogated that would be the way to get the truth out of me.

      • CanadaBear

        Do yourself a favor. Don’t. I was watching it and after about 30 seconds I realized he wasn’t saying anything and it’s Wanny. Brutal.

        • Cormonster

          I avoid all Mully and Hanley podcasts with Wanny. I listened to two of them and that was enough. Plus they were kissing his ass and being buddies with him. It works out nice because usually in the same hour they have Doug Buffone on trying to be funny, and he’s not.

          • BerwynBomber

            Mully might have the worst/most obvious fake laugh on all of sports talk radio. He’s a tough listen.

      • Sactowns#1

        Those Rosenbloom and Haugh videos they shoot are so terrible they make Blair Witch look like it was shot by Roger Deakins. What the hell kind of budget are they giving these guys for equipment? I seriously think they’re using a detachable webcam and internal laptop mic to record these headache inducing internet pollutants.

  • Scott W.

    Where is corm hiding?
    If yer lurking, let me reiterate my profound thanks for the heads up on the Easterbrook book.
    You really, really need to read that if you haven’t yet, bored board.

    • CanadaBear

      Cor’s working today. He’s recovering from a killer Govt Mule show over the weekend.

      • Peanut FTW

        Soulshine is my favorite of alllll time.

        • Cormonster

          Have you had a chance to see them live Peanut? They are my favorite live band by far. I’ve seen Mule so many times I quit counting several years ago. Saturday night they did about a 2 hour Neil Young tribute set that was great. The Mule first set was off the hook. Hard core rocking with almost no singing.

      • Scott W.

        Heh! Wake him up!

      • Cormonster

        I came home early to download the show from Saturday night. Listening to it as I write. It’s great to relive the show, but the sound quality just can’t compare to hearing it live in a great venue. The 35,000 Halloween revelers on State St. in Madison for Freakfest was just icing on the cake after the show.

        • CanadaBear

          Freaky-Deaky!

          • Cormonster

            The freaky costumes were great, but my favorites were all the college girls who dressed as hookers or strip club dancers.

    • BillW

      Gregg Easterbrook or someone else? Which book?

      • Scott W.

        Gregg. Football in America.

    • Cormonster

      Your welcome. I’ll ask for it for Christmas. My Mom is always bugging me for xmas ideas. I’ve skimmed the comments the past few days, but nothing to add. Disgusted with this team and the effort.

  • Trac

    You have to keep or fire Tresty because of the Bears overall record, not on the Cheese game outcome. If the Bears fire Trestman, doesn’t Emery have to go as well. The guy gets his pick of NFL coaches and he hires some guy that won the Grey cup a few years back and hadn’t been in the NFL for years? It’s laughable and it’s embarrassing.

    • Emery has shown that he doesn’t give a damn about conventional wisdom. he makes the move he thinks is correct.
      Sometimes it works (Long, Fuller), sometimes it doesn’t (Shea, Trestman).

      • Trac

        Chicken Dinner was the type of prospect that you take in the second round if you’re high on him because it’s nowhere near as risky. Trestman is a coach you hire as interim until you find the guy you want.

        • BillW

          Agree on CD but you know no one actually hires an interim coach. Unless you mean a two year contract with an option for a third.

          And maybe Tresty would have accepted that.

        • He had his pick of the coaches in 2013. Everything held on pause until the Bears hired their guy because that was the most desirable job.
          He chose Trestman over Arians and McCoy (the other 2 finalists). It was 100% the guy he wanted.

    • Scott W.

      Yes. All of that, even the punctuation.

  • BearDown100393

    The General Manager was hired under the provision of maintaining Lovie Smith as Head Coach for one more season. The Head Coach was hired (after Smith’s dismissal) under the provision of accepting the newly hired coordinators selected by the General Manager. The defensive coordinator was hired and more/less ordered to maintain the same defensive system (for 2013) as the previous year do to “familiarity” for the veterans. And now this is a “team in crisis”? This “crisis” was sparked by George McCaskey right from the beginning. Stipulations set upon individuals at time of hiring. None of this is conducive toward (re)building a stable organization. There is a domino effect in place here. Whether or not these individuals were “the best hires” is open for debate. However it does not seem debatable to me that their indoctrination into their jobs with the Bears were either ideal or normal in circumstances. Much of the result (but not all, the players still have to perform) is evident in the 3-5 record.

    • BillW

      I’ll take your word for it until someone with a better memory or more time corrects you – but I don’t recall Kromer/Tucker/JoeD being Emery’s picks that Trestman was forced to accept.

      And keeping Lovie one more year made sense. Jim Finks kept Abe for a year before he hired Pardee. It’s done to give the GM a chance to see what kind of team he has first.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        The fact he fired him after a 10-6 season shows you he didn’t want him and was forced to keep him.

        • BillW

          I doubt he wanted Lovie but I think he wanted to assess the team before hiring his first HC. I think he would have fired Lovie even if they did make the playoffs but lost their first game.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            You hire your own HC that can help you assess the team. That’s standard modus operandi.

            When you don’t do that you pay for it… like last year on Defense. He clearly didn’t correctly ‘assess’ what he had. Why ? Well… he was working with someone else’s Head Coach the year before.

          • BillW

            Just saying it’s not unheard of. But of course you may be right.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Aye-aye.
      But keep it quiet because people will doubt your reasons for rooting for the Bears and will can you a pessimist or some shit like that.

  • EnderWiggin

    What the fuck is Jason La Canfora @ CBS going to say when we finish 11-5?
    “Well, its a good thing I warned them”
    “My article was definitely a turning point”
    “I never said it like that, my article was misinterpreted.”

    • BillW

      I’ll have what you’re having!

    • Peanut FTW

      As much as I would love for that to happen, there is just no way. Even 10-6 is a pipe dream at this point. I would assume there is some false hope along the way but we manage to find 9-7 at best and get to stay home for the playoffs once again.
      It is fun seeing the media try to justify keeping teams like Seattle and San Fran ranked high when they continue to struggle and lose games.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      “With the New England Patriots a surprise disappointment for much of the National Football League (NFL) regular season so far, a trade involving star but ageing quarterback Tom Brady is a possibility according to Jason La Canfora of CBS Sports.”

      Enough said ?

      • BillW

        Good find. He’s just a guy looking for page hits.

        • Well, in Canfora’s defense, LOTS of “experts” were talking about the demise of Brady.
          Seems like the Pats turned it around in the Bengals game.
          Just like the Pack vs us. RELAX.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I’m not an expert, but I knew that’s bullshit. That kind of makes them pseudo experts. At least in my eyes.

    • Scott W.

      I personally like all the anonymous sources. He could have interviewed me for that piece, for all anyone knows.

    • “It was the OTHER Jason La Canfora”

  • BillW

    Speaking of a fading memory and being too lazy to research –
    Why is it we didn’t franchise Cutler?

    • BerwynBomber

      Because of the “horrible” years of Jim Miller, Rex Grossman and Kyle Orton.

      • Peanut FTW

        THIS. Look it is quite apparent that Jay is no Drew Brees, but compared to our QB stables over the past few decades, he kinda looks like him.

        • BerwynBomber

          “kinda looks” is the operative phrase and you may have missed the irony of my statement.

        • BillW

          Those were two huge gambles Emery made (Cutler and Trestman).

          Somehow I don’t think Emery was going “all in”. Just a hunch but I think it’s very possible George and Teddy verbally said he’d have another shot at both coach and QB if they didn’t work out.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah but for that to be true PE would have to outlive Cutler. Jay has two more years after this one, right? I wonder if PE has that long a leash — that would be something along the lines of a seven year agreement.

          • BillW

            That’s what I’m speculating; that verbally George and Teddy told Emery when he signed Cutty that if it didn’t work they’d put the blame on Trestman and give Emery another chance.

            I have absolutely nothing to base that on and I admit that seems at least somewhat unlikely.

          • BerwynBomber

            Wait, outlive Tresty or Cutty? If it’s the former, PE might do that this off-season. If it is the latter, a good deal trickier.

          • BillW

            Yeah – not sure the order but I just have a hard time believing Emery would stake his entire reputation on not one but two gambles (three if you count CD) without feeling some sense he’d get more time if they didn’t work out.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      You don’t need a lively memory to understand that there are 0 solutions in finding a QB, especially if you are weak on Defense. You need a great Defense.

      He can draft a QB in the 1st round this draft and cut Cutler after next season.

      • BillW

        Cutting Cutler after next season is still a huge cap hit in 2016 (he has that year guaranteed if he is on the roster March 2015..

        So if they are going to cut him and take a cap hit, may as well do it after this season.

        Won’t happen. But they may surprise us and draft a QB this time around.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Jay Cutler signed a 7 year contract with the Chicago Bears worth $126.7 million on January 2, 2013. $38 million becomes fully guaranteed on the 3rd day of the 2014 League Year. Cutler’s 2016 salary is guaranteed for injury upon signing with $10 million becoming fully guaranteed on the 3rd day of the 2015 League Year and the remaining $6 million becoming fully guaramteed on the 3rd day of the 2016 League Year.

          So if you cut him on the 2nd day of the 2016 League Year you take a cap hit of 13 mln in 2016. That’s peanuts if you think you’ve found your young drafted QB, a 3-4 mln (max) year QB.

          I’m not saying Emery should do that, I’m just telling you why he didn’t just franchise him.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    I want to have hope and bank on the pride of the individuals and ‘locker room’, but I highly doubt they’ll resolve their mind numbness period.

    I believe the Bears lack the so called ‘bad guy’. Their leaders are all ‘good guys’ and that doesn’t mix well. I also think Emery should become that guy. I would have expected some trading and cutting, some action. Instead they are just as passive as always. They’re stuck in the analytics and the answer isn’t there.

    I think Emery is a master GM for the building side of the operation. He has clear weaknesses when it comes to changing the losing culture and dysfunction of the franchise. I think his good part out gains his bad parts, but you’d need a coach with swagger. Trestman doesn’t have it and it was clear from last year.

    • Scott W.

      Fantastic? Well, you’re entitled to believe that Barb. No truck with you having a differing opinion.
      But Phil Emery gave us Marc Trestman.
      I think that says it all.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        As I said he did an amazing job at acquiring and keeping players. Best in the NFL the last 2.5 years, except for Denver where they ride the Manning train.
        He was close to awful until now at everything else.

      • But we’re not exactly sure on the details of hiring Trestman.
        Maybe Emery did throw everything at Arians, but Arians simply preferred the Cards.
        No way Emery will then publicly state he got stuck with the consolation prize.

        There’s only a finite amount of really qualified HCs every off-season. That’s why teams are still talking about conjoling Cower and Chucky from the booth.

        But heck, even that’s no guarantee (Gibbs, anyone?)

        • BillW

          Absolutely true. It’s a delicate process both ways- the Bears don’t want it known they were turned down and they don’t want Trestman to publicly look like he was settled for.

          Works that way in business all the time. You don’t offer a job unless you’re nearly certain the candidate will accept it.

        • Scott W.

          True. The details are unknown. But to turn down Chicago would have meant something really, really stunk in the terms for Arians to thumb his nose at them and grab the Cards.

          • The NFL is so full of “networking”, brothers, cousins, in-laws, history, etc, that who knows?
            It was reported that Cowher would only consider the NY or CHI market. Why? Who the hell knows besides him. It’s not an indictment on every other team, but those big wigs call their own shots.
            Same with Harbaugh. It’s reported that he would prefer to stay around the Bay area because of his wife and kids, which might mean he goes to the Raiders.
            No one on the planet would believe that the Raiders are a better option than the Bears, but Harbaugh might go to them simply for non-football reasons.
            That’s what I mean by we won’t be privy to the details about how it all went down until much later.

          • Scott W.

            Yeah, that makes sense.

          • GPLDAN

            Arians flat out said the reason he didn’t match with Emery was that Emery wanted him to keep coaches like Old Sauce.

            Arians said no way, this is my club – and Phil said no.

          • Really? I don’t recall that, but I wouldn’t doubt it.
            Then again, Old Sauce is a pretty good guy to have on D.
            It probably just came down to control.
            Parcells won’t comeback unless he has GM powers like Billichick.
            But GMs def need to trust their new HCs to hire the right personnel. Judgment, after all, should be the #1 reason you hire an HC to begin with.

          • Scott W.

            No.
            Shit.
            I’ll be damned, never knew.

            So what’s your take on that? PE being a mini-Jerry, or just business as usual?

  • BerwynBomber

    Unless the Jets are a mess in term of future draft picks and their cap finances, I assume Cowher would prefer to go there instead of the Bears. The Bears is one of the plum jobs in the NFL but the personnel might be seen as old and inflexible. Something like the Jets could be a total rebuild which might be more appealing.

    • what’s so old and inflexible? lot of young guys on the team, most of the old guys are on short-term deals.

      • BerwynBomber

        Inflexible is the offense. But you are right about “old” on the D. A couple — Peanut and Briggs — might well be gone next year.

        • Those 2 and DJ Williams will all be gone (with Allen and Ratliff following in 2015). Pretty much every backup on D is somebody Emery drafted or acquired as UDFA. The D is young and waiting to be molded.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yes and no. All three sub-units (D-line, LBs, secondary) are a mix of young and old. And Fuller is the only one who looks like a sure keeper, though Sutton and Fergie warrant more looks and Young, as a young veteran, is a keeper too, if only as a pass rushing specialist.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            It would be a big mistake not resigning Tillman. You new big time DC would need him like crazy and the unit still lacks leadership.

            I mean…there’s a reason Arizona brought in Larry Foote to replace Karlos Dansby.

          • Trac

            Tillman is done as a player. I think he would jump at an assistant/coaching job.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, I can’t see PE signing Tillman again but agree about a role for him on the staff.

          • IBNO

            He’s torn the same muscle twice, and (by the time the 2015 season starts) he’ll have had 20+ months of no injuries to his legs. He’ll be worth a roster spot, and I don’t think that he’ll be like 54 and refuse a reasonable offer.

          • Not for $3M/yr.
            No way.
            Give him the “lach” special. $2M, but with heavy incentives as in, you don’t finish the season, major pay cuts.

          • BerwynBomber

            Hate to say it, but he is 34 and coming off two successive season-ending injuries. At that point, it might be as much about a roster spot (even for a ST player replacement) as the money.

          • Yeah, I think it’s time too. But it depends on our cap.
            If we use that $2M to go after Suh or for better FA depth, I could see that. We’ll just have to add CB to priority draft/fa signings cuz nickle plays 50%.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            His injuries aren’t at his legs, so I wouldn’t call them ‘career ending’ type of injuries.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Of course.

    • Trac

      Is Cowher throwing his hat back in the mix? This is news to me.

      • BerwynBomber

        Nah, per Blogfahter’s post today: he tossed around Cowher’s and Harbaugh’s names as possible successors.

        • Throw in Chucky’s and Dungy’s name into the annual “Save my team” hat.

          • GPLDAN

            Harbaugh would be a fool to walk away from Ann Arbor. He could be the next Bo, and he knows it.

            His family would have to LOVE the Bay area to take the Raiders job.

          • “His family would have to LOVE the Bay area to take the Raiders job.”
            Isn’t that true for ANY future-past Radier HC?

            (esp when Davis was alive. Holy crap, talk about having a hand up your ass like a puppet).

            SF is awesome…OAK, well…at least they had Too Short…

          • IBNO

            The story is that Harbaugh’s family does indeed love the Bay, which is why he seems to be a lock to take the Oakland job. Michigan will want him and offer him the moon, so if Harbaugh’s family is willing to relocate, sadly Chicago would lose out to Ann Arbor.

            I don’t see Cowher ever coming back to coaching. He could’ve had the Bears job two years ago, if he had wanted it.

          • Maybe Harbs comes back out of spite. How awesome would it be to have Harb and Ditka in chi again?
            Piss him off one last time, Harbs!

  • For those wanting to get rid of Cutler, just look at Weeden in Dallas.
    We’d be stuck with a Weeden-level QB and STILL have an awful D with a major cap hit.
    Hate to ruin it for y’all. Oh, and Kevin Spacey is Keyser Soze. Hate hate hate…

    • GPLDAN

      You should go see Nightcrawler…. there’s a nod to the Usual Suspects in there big time.

      • Ah, still can’t figure out wtf that movie is about, but maybe I’ll see if that ‘vender’ selling certain merchandise from his Nova outside Food-4-less has it…(all material is fictional, and no horses were harmed)

        • GPLDAN

          Irish used to buy bootlegged films from Thai whores on horseback.

          (Bringing it all back around)

          • Buggy-back?
            Rick-shaw back? (They all sound pretty dirty, actually).

            What I never got about Irish is that he fancied the ebony ladies, but moved to the one place on the planet that had none.

          • GPLDAN

            I guess it’s like swearing off chocolate. Or brown sugar, as the case may be.

    • BerwynBomber

      Or look at Orton in Buffalo.

      • Yes but for every Orton, there’s like 10 Schaubs, Fitzpatrick, Cousins, etc etc
        We MAYBE could have gambled on someone like Sanchez or Vick, more high-end #2s, but that’s a hellava gamble, esp with Bmarsh’s relationship with Cutty.

  • GPLDAN

    Fucking Steelers bring back James Harrison from a Hooters, 20 pounds overweight and 2 years out of the league – and he whips himself back and makes 3 sacks on Flacco.

    Us? We can’t get any mileage out of DJ Williams. Fuck.

    • I was thinking about Briggs the whole time.
      I feel like if we would have signed Harrison, the first day Briggs and D.J. would end up getting gun-slapped by Harrison.

  • Moving Jordan Mills to guard is a major move but what choice did Trest
    & Kromer have? Ola significantly better outside than Mills this
    year. – Jeff

    I always believed they drafted Mills for this very purpose. Of course, I didn’t see them taking Long in the first, but I think Mills was meant to be an OG in Kromer’s system. That he played OK at RT as a rookie was really a bonus.

    That rarely happens, esp for late round prospects.

    Butch Prediction. Mills will be a revelation inside (as long as his foot is healed).

    If Ola proves he has good footwork at RT, we might have our Oline set for years (Studly center not withstanding)

    • IBNO

      The foot is the key, though. I suspect that maybe the foot is far worse than we’ve been led to believe, and is the root of Mills’ struggles (which is why the coaches haven’t come down on him or called him out).

      Moving him inside won’t fix his foot. So if he doesn’t struggle at OG, my theory is way wrong. If he does struggle, though…

    • johnnywad

      No way Ola is the right tackle for years. He’s better than the Ebon, but that ain’t saying much.

  • IBNO

    Shanahan is so overrated it’s ridiculous. His time in Washington is more indicative of what kind of coach he is than his time in Denver. In Denver, he had a roster that was stacked, and a system (zone-blocking run game) that was just different/novel enough that it was successful regardless of the RB. In Washington he had one of the best young talents in the game, and he pretty much broke the guy. Literally.

    Shanahan is absolute crap.

    I think Trestman can pull this out, but I definitely see PE “forcing” some change in the coaching staff if Trestman doesn’t turn things around, fast. Rex would be the perfect “Buddy” to mild-mannered accountant Trestman.

    • GPLDAN

      Alex Gibbs pioneered zone blocking.

      You should go ask Mark Schelereth or Tom Nalen how dirty and nasty those lines were. There was a reason that Terrell Davis and later Clinton Portis ran for all those yards and it was Alex Gibbs.

    • BerwynBomber

      My suspicion is Rex won’t take a DC job for at least a year until after he is out of football at least a year. Moreover, he might fall in love with some TV gig.

      • johnnywad

        He could sell shoes on QVC. He’d be an instant success.

  • Nice to know we’re not the only team to blow draft picks:

    Packers waived OT Derek Sherrod.

    Sherrod, the 32nd overall pick in the 2011 draft out of Mississippi State, appeared in 20 games, making one start for the Packers. He suffered a catastrophic leg injury in Week 15 of the 2011 season and ended up missing about two calendar years of action. Sherrod hasn’t been the same. He surrendered three sacks, three hurries, and two quarterback hits across 140 snaps this season. – Rotoworld

  • DeMarco Murray was finally held below 100 yds rushing, marking the first time this season. This is what happens when you have a Weeden-level QB:

    https://twitter.com/MichaelDavSmith/status/529005940792909825

    • GPLDAN

      The Cards and Palmer work well together. Shades of Warner.

  • . @adamtschro Bears have been mediocre my entire life. Do you want me to have never enjoyed a Bears season? – Jeff tweet.

    In the words of Dennis Miller, “Ouch, Babe.”
    I too enjoy Stephen Baldwin movies! You tell ’em, Jeff!

    http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/trophyhistory?leagueId=1177278&trophyId=8

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Bears mediocre ? Why do you root for the Bears if they’re mediocre ?

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Trestman shouldn’t get fired and will not be fired. I don’t really understand from where this nonsense comes from.
    There are other bigger problems to tackle on at organizational level. The Patriots aren’t the Patriots because of talent or Xs and Os.

    • GPLDAN

      If Rodgers lights up the Bears for 21 in the 1st Q and they lie down and die, and the final is 34-3, then you will not be saying that.

      If this team shows no improvement and Jay throws 2 pics and gets into his pouty face, then this city will bury Marc Trestman.

      As it stands, this city is in revolt against this club. Since you don’t live here you don’t know.

      • Even in L.A. they’re putting Trestman on the hot seat. And this city might be the most football apathetic city in the U.S. (though that would be a nice poll to conduct).

        Totally agree. Chicago could put up with a lot of stuff, but no-heart is a deal breaker.

        • GPLDAN

          You want to know how bad it is?

          The Sun Times had TWO articles, one this week and one last week, with headlines that read

          “What did this city do to deserve the Bears?”

          The Sun-Times, even after being bought by Republican capitalists (hello Bruce Rauner endorsement, you fucks) fancies itself the working man’s paper. Telander aside, it has more vitriol towards Halas Hall than Jay Mariotti on a coke bender.

          • I think a lot of it has to do with that “working-class” history.
            Lovie wasn’t a fiery guy, but he preached D, and his teams always had strong leadership, and I can’t remember them ever quitting. In fact, they probably won a few games towards the end for Lovie.

            Trestman is the offensive-nerd. Not exactly from the Bears mold. That’s all fine and dandy when winning, but the wheels have come off rather quickly, and this team seems to lack heart, leadership (see handle), and surprisingly, BRAINS.

          • Shady

            Papers are going to print whatever sells papers. At this point in the season, the la Canfora etc. “unnamed sources” journalism will be the adversity the Bears overcome or succumb to this year. Sunday Night in GB will be the make or break litmus test for this club. Will they show up? I say yes.

      • Shady

        I believe the new guy BearDown100393 summed it up best.

        9 hours ago
        “The coordinators might be replaced however I highly doubt Phil Emery fires his head coach at season’s end regardless of the W-L record. To do so would indict and cast a shadow of suspicion over the survival of Emery’s own tenure.”

        These guys, Cutler, Trestman, Emery they’re all connected. Their fates, to a large degree, are tied together. They live together and die together. They’ve all made a commitment to each other and they’re not giving up on each other because some asshole named La Canfora wrote a gossip story on the interwebs. Now, if things go to complete shit like some of you say, we’ll see the sacrificial lambs. People will begin to get fired, but they’ll be given every opportunity to succeed because when you continue to fire the same people you hire, eventually you’re going to lose all credibility.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I don’t trust your city’s collective understanding of sports. Plus, they aren’t in revolt against the club, but against some of the individuals, players and coaches.

  • GPLDAN

    Here’s how bad the Pack run D is: they are giving up more points and more overall yards and YPC than last year’s Bears.

    You know, the one anchored by Landon Cohen.

    • BerwynBomber

      Yep, said the same thing the other night. Saints gashed them for nearly 200 last game.

      Cheese are a one-man band in Rodgers. This game is still winnable.

    • I kept refraining that the GB D was WORSE than ours in the shoot out.
      Rodgers just pitched a perfect game, and Cutler didn’t.
      But their D was getting gashed by our run.

      Without Rodgers, they’re the Vikes.

  • Cormonster

    Well, tomorrow is the big mid-term elections. I encourage all my fellow bloggers to go vote as part of your civic responsibility. Part of that responsibility is being an informed voter, so I encourage everyone to watch and listen to as many political advertisements on TV and radio as they can to understand both sides of the issues and make an informed decision. For example, I learned that one candidate for Attorney General in my state prosecutes child predators, while the other candidate profits from them. Now my decision is much easier.

  • BD

    The game has passed Cower by. He is no longer a viable option for any franchise.

  • If Coughlin gets fired, any takers?

    • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

      If by Coughlin you actually mean DL and DE’s like Justin Tuck, Linval Joseph, Chris Canty, jason Pierre Paul, Michael Strahan, Barry Cofield, Osi Umenyiora then yes, by all means, bring him (them) in.

  • nick gherz

    Just as important, I think the Bears need a top tier defensive coordinator like a Dom Capers type. Of your options, I’d take Shanahan over Harbaugh but I can’t see him not wanting to plug his own guys into the offensive coordinator role. Does he have another son?

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Dom Capers is not a top tier DC.

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