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DaBearsBlog RevZone Channel: A Rant on the Idiocy of Boycotting & Fan Response

| November 15th, 2014

REVZONE

On the idiocy of the boycott

The Reverend’s performances this year have somewhat worse than the Bears themselves. But we are not changing this feature’s name. Today, sitting in for the Rev is yours truly, the father of this here blog.

This week’s guest’s complementary ranter is a gentleman known as Cody Kustra and his rant complement came via email, presented without edit.

Hey Jeff,

You got me thinking on that last string of tweets you sent out. [Those rants are well summarized in the rant above.] Growing up with Bears season tickets was as incredible as you can imagine. I got to sit in the 6th row of the end zone at least 3 times a year, and always saw the same faces outside of my immediate family and maybe the one friend I was allowed to bring along. I haven’t been to a game in a few years, but I can still picture some of those people sitting in that section every home game.

The older black guy, always wore head phones, would never speak to us unless it was through a hi five when we scored. There was a guy named Hugh who snuck in spicy peanuts every game and shared them (he actually stayed at the same hotel my dad did in Miami when the Bears played in the superbowl). There was a grandmother who always brought her granddaughter.

Point of this long Fuckin email is, as much as bears fans talk about boycotting, no one is stupid enough to give that sort of experience up. And if they are, well, better for the rest of us. I grew up going to Wanny, Dick, and Lovie games. If people lived through that, they will live through Trestman and whoever comes next.

This was a long email. Sorry about that

Regards,
Cody

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  • First to vehemently disagree. “Go watch the game and enjoy yourself” ?
    If I wanted to watch a bunch of men quit, I’d pop in “The History of France” from the comfort of my own house.
    Maybe if some tarps or paper-bags or clown-shoes are brought out, maybe the McCaskey’s would fire Phillips, or maybe they’d put pressure on Emery to fire Trestman, Tucker and DeCamillas.

    And for those arguing the team would be worse off without them – who cares? So we get a higher draft pick. And honestly, I can’t imagine how it can get any worse. Teams will take their foot off the gas when they’re up 42-0 at half-time.

    I’m not saying to boycott brawts. That is pretty idiotic. But, just don’t show up to the games. Save yourself the head ache.

    Needless to say, don’t buy any Jerseys either, except for maybe Fuller and a few others.

    It’s all moot any ways. Solider Field will be packed, etc etc.
    Heck, the Bears might even not fold like a cheap tent.

  • On a follow up first…first time ever I’m rooting AGAINST the Bears…or that is to say, against its current incarnation. This team is just dog-shit. Unlikable from top to bottom.

    You know how the Cubs argued that they could either be loyal to a person or the team?
    Well, I see it as being loyal to the team in the long term. The sooner these clowns get fired, the better.
    And the higher pick we are awarded to draft a new franchise QB, the better.

    Trestman “turning it around” against the likes of the Vikes and Bucs will only give Emery an excuse to keep him.

    • Beware the Jericho

      my first inclination is to fire off a huge volley of Jericho ballistic missiles at you but since you’ve kept your handle the same way for weeks now it’s apparent that it would have no effect on you. Tanking to draft a QB says it all bro. Insane logic when there are 13 other positions of critical need that are currently resulting in teams scoring on every drive, not punting ever, scoring from every point on the field, etc. Jesus.

      • Beware the Jericho

        there are teams that are so fucking lucky to be above 500 right now. There are several teams that have shitty records this year that maybe necessarily shouldn’t. There are singular players being showered with accolades because they play on strong overall teams and guys struggling a bit that are being labelled as brutal because they play on brutal overall teams.
        This is the age of twitter, the 24hr news and sports news cycle, blogs and everyone and their mentally retarded brother employed in some fashion to create page views about this sport. This is lunacy what is going on right now.

      • Only Blake Bortles has more turnovers than Cutler.
        Yes, a rookie on an expansion team with chump WRs and a converted QB as HB barely edges out Cutler.

        You can sit back and list the Oline, the tipped passes, the “wrong routes”, the defense, etc etc
        But the question was asked: if Bortles was the Bears QB, with the Bears weapons instead of the almighty Jags “weapons”, would the Bears have been better off?

        The fact that it’s a valid question should be enough.

        Enough is enough.

        I began the season tentatively believing in Cutler. All signs pointed up. I was wrong.
        Cutler has shown NO improvement. He is who he is, and even if the Bears import the 90s Cowboys, I believe he would still find a way to lose.

        That’s just me. We can keep Cutler for the next two years while we groom another QB. That’ll be his window.

        After that, the Angelo/Cutler experiment should be over.

  • Scott W.

    I paid a king’s ransom to take my daughter to 4 games at Soldier Field some years back. Went to the home playoff game against Carolina.
    For those boycotting, I implore you, though it would defeat your meaningless purpose, give your tix to someone who has never been. A parent and his kids, etc.
    It’s an experience like no other for a Bears fan.
    If you’re really considering not going but you have tickets, I think you’ve forgotten how magical it is, win or lose.
    That said, I want Emery and Trestman gone next year.

    • DaBearsBlog

      This is the perfect response. Enjoying the experience does not mean accepting the results.

    • Preferably, give it to a poor Viking fan.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Those who think like you aren’t going to boycott the game. Those that do aren’t thinking about some boy and his father puffy moments. They want to send a message, force change.

      • DaBearsBlog

        If you think that’s possible you’re a child living in fantasy land.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          What’s ‘fantasy land’ is thinking that actual paying customers/fans are going to the game to enjoy the experience, regardless of the result.

          These wealthy motherfuckers are much more interested in the power and status part of the ‘game’ than the pennies they’d lose if people don’t buy hungarian hot dogs. You’re 100% right there. Where you’re blatantly wrong is thinking that those lost pennies don’t dint their power and status.

          I promise you… if Soldier Field is half empty for even 1 game, there would be a high level meting of the ownership group. That’s more guaranteed than Cutler’s money.

          PS: I’m actually living in Europe and am an soccer expert. Fans rebelling happen all the time and they always get their way.

          http://www.espnfc.com/story/1688365/fredy-guarin-mirko-vucinic-swap-deal-breaks-down

          • johnnywad

            There is nothing like the NFL. European soccer is no measuring stick. More people here watch Olympic Curling than any form of soccer. What soccer fans do in Europe has no application in this scenario. Soldier field will NEVER be half empty. Never

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Well that’s what I’m talking about. If the standard and basic knowledge makes you say ‘Soldier field will NEVER be half empty. Never’ and then Sunday it is… don’t you think that’s going to send shock waves ?

            You see… I want change… so I support those who are thinking at not going. Very basic logic, right ?

            I would never tell those people ‘it’s worthless. better go and enjoy the experience’ even I really thought it’s worthless. Which I obviously don’t, but even if.

            PS: Look… I get it… USA, football, soccer, differences, cultures… and all that. Thing is, it happens, not in fantasy land, but in Europe. Where NFL plays actual games. So it’s not another planet. People aren’t that different. Wealthy people especially. Because that’s what matters, how wealthy motherfuckers respond even to the slightest attack on the ‘adoration’ bar they or their business receives.

          • That’s the problem, Jwad.
            It won’t ever happen, and the McCaskeys know it.
            That’s why clowns like Phillps are still around. Clowns who have to hire football consultants to hire GMs.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            The talk around the joint is that SOME are actually thinking on doing that !!!

            There’s a movement that talks about doing something that ‘everybody knows and that the McCaskeys know’ never will happen.

            What a coup that would be. Right ?

            I have no idea if it’s going to happen or not, but I’m supporting the movement. I don’t think you can support the movement if you think that ‘enjoying the experience does not mean accepting the results’.

          • johnnywad

            Its just flawed thinking for many reasons. I’m sure they’d rather win than lose. I’m also sure that if this concept worked, Jacksonville would be awesome by now.

      • Scott W.

        Hilarious. Yer right! People who feel as I do WON’T boycott the game. Obviously. As for “puffy” moments, well, one can’t know who strangers know, can one?

  • EnderWiggin

    This is my favorite Rant yet (no offense Rev & FQ).

    Well, ya never know!
    Maybe Trest & Co. have it
    figured out? Bitch, please.

    10-6 here we come!

  • EnderWiggin

    So, what is Cody’s handle? If I may ask.

  • SC Dave

    “Enjoy the game”, but don’t “accept the results”… hmm.

    The first part is the only thing you can control. And I have to agree with the others deriding the team for giving up once behind. It makes it nearly impossible to “enjoy the game”. But a 55-14 result is something that I *have* to accept – it’s not like I can just wish it away.

  • McCaskeys?

    1. Historically, France are the most successful nation on the planet militarily.

    2. It’s not possible to enjoy getting fifty-burgers served up on you at Soldier Field.

    3. Enough with the McCaskeys, Not mentioned once – or ever – is Ted Phillips, the CEO and President of this clusterfuck since 1999 and gave Jerry Angelo the keys to ruin our kingdom, and the guy that keeps hiring these idiots year after year. He’s also the guy that thinks we don’t need field-turf.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Frnace?

      • CanadaBear

        Now he knows the rest of the story!

      • SC Dave

        Surprising to me, actually, is your omission of Charles Martel’s victory at Tours. Of course, that merely prevented Islamic enslavement of western Europe, at least in the opinion of 19th and 20th century (per-revisionism?) historians.

      • Trac

        You forgot present days Muslim wars. They’re losing terribly at that one as well.

        • Cormonster

          Not sure how true it is, but I’ve read a few articles talking about Muslim areas of Paris being ruled by Sharia law.

          • Trac

            It’s true.

  • FantuzPhysics

    I don’t get the Emery hate. He certainly has tried to address the team’s weaknesses and has been better than his predecessor through three drafts and really only two complete offseasons. The Trestman hate is more understandable, but we need to see what he does after the season is over. New DC? New special teams coach? We need both IMO, but we also need more players. We’re lacking at S, CB, LB, and we even need another player at OL. I just think everyone needs to chill out. Jim Harbaugh is not the answer…could end up coaching at Michigan, Shannahan is not the answer either…wanted too much power in Washington, not sure who the answer is, but while I am upset with the performance of Emery/Trestman it is way too early to give up on them. That being said, if we don’t win at home tomorrow I am going to be very upset.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Emery is top dog GM, Trestman isn’t even a HC. Most importantly they aren’t a good match together. You have to have a bad guy, be it the GM or the HC. They are both friendly, trusty type. Can’t have that.

      At the end what’s dysfunctional is the Bears franchise at his core. They are a losing franchise, because there have a losing culture. I think an important coach could change (mayyyybe) this losing culture with the help of Emery, but the ownership doesn’t really buy this, they want yes men unproved HCs.

      • GPLDAN

        Emery is a top dog GM?

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Yes he is. In his first 5 months on the job he brought in he best 2 WR in Bears history. That’s top dog move.

          If you switch Cutler with Rogers or Luck the Bears would win 2 of the next 3 Super Bowls with this current roster.

          • Beware the Jericho

            worst comment of all time. The D itself gives up 35+ per game and lets teams score on virtually every drive. Maybe in Madden 12 you could win the super bowl by winning games 42-35 but not in the real world.

            The kick return unit averages 10yds a return and half the time it’s a penalty for half the distance to the goal.

          • johnnywad

            You have to admit though….. Bringing in what may turn out to be the best to play the game at the QB position would be brilliant. I would also like to bring in some other first ballot hall of famers in their prime while we’re at it.

          • Beware the Jericho

            Rodgers is special….and has been in the same system for his ENTIRE CAREER. People forget that continuity of scheme is fucking huge. Rodgers would do well no matter where he was at. That doesn’t mean the team would win necessarily.

          • johnnywad

            I agree. They certainly wouldn’t win the games that matter. You have to be at least above average in the other two phases of the game.

          • Beware the Jericho

            i’ve said repeatedly that one of the only other guys that could have possibly survived and thrived on the bears from 2009 to 2014 was Rodgers.

          • Trac

            Don’t forget that a healthy Jay Cutler prolly has us in the playoffs 2 out of the last three years.

          • BerwynBomber

            Agree with both of you. Rodgers is awesome, an eventual HoFer and would make a humungous difference. But 2 SBs? No way. Though I would say he has carried a crappy D the last couple of years to the playoffs.

            Anyway, best we focus on what we have and try to fix it rather than toss pennies in the fountain. Jay’s around for two more years. Let’s see if he can get things going against the Vikes.

          • SC Dave

            And so tell me, Johnny, do you want to fire Trestman so that Cutler gets another new system?

          • Beware the Jericho

            absolutely not. Trestman proved last year he can call plays. The Bears put up some sick ass numbers this year in 2 losses because of 2 turnovers and an epically bad D. They legitimately got raped by Pats and GB and no play calling would have done anything about it.

            Trestman must stay, the bears must improve in the draft and FA again and it looks like 2014 just isn’t the year.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Don’t be naive. An elite QB makes everybody better. Way better. It changes Everything.

          • Beware the Jericho

            Naive is saying that Rodgers would lead the Bears squad as is to 2 or more super bowls my friend. Rodgers hasn’t led his own team to 2 super bowls.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            That’s my point. The roster Emery created in such shot amount of time is better than what Rodgers has and had.

          • Beware the Jericho

            that is fucking insane. What other teams in the league have had 3,4 and sometimes 5 number 1 WR’s on the field at the same time, an accomplished OC/HC/Playcaller that knows how to get them the ball and years to perfect the system? GREEN BAY is the correct answer.

            5 of their players have been on other teams.
            31 of the Bears have been on other teams.

            The eagles from 3 years ago had one of the greatest on paper rosters of all time and they didn’t do shit. There is more to winning than the roster.

          • Beware the Jericho

            anyone that hasn’t seen the incredible performance in the draft and FA market of the Packers is out of their mind. I’m banning myself from Barb the rest of the day.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            If they’re so good how come the Packers have the same Super Bowl and NFC Championship appearances the last 10 years as the Bears ? 1 and 1.
            Stop the nonsense.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            And who the fuck was the QB of that Eagles team ?

          • Beware the Jericho

            it was probably Michael Vick. The Qb was not the reason the D imploded despite the movie script D they put together.

          • BerwynBomber

            I don’t know, Waffle. Nelson’s a damn fine WR but I wonder how much of it is due to Rodgers. Cobb was drafted primarily as a KR. Adams, their rookie, looks decent but nothing more than potentially solid and their TEs are a bunch of no-names. Moreover, Lacy looks to have regressed. Though I would say the Cheese’s dreadful O-line seems to have improved some.

            Anyway, I tend to think the truly great QBs make their receivers look a little better than they are — whether it’s Rodgers, Manning, Brady, Brees (when he’s not making mistakes), hell even Favre (same proviso as Brees). Not necessarily a huge knock on your guy Cutty — there are very few QBs in that group — I’m just not convinced those dudes’ supporting casts would be all that on other teams, including Rodgers’.

          • Beware the Jericho

            jesus, what about outside of this year when he had multiple years of jennings, driver, finley, cobb, jones
            i mean what the fuck.

          • SC Dave

            Yes, it’s usually the QB.

          • Beware the Jericho

            no sir, Saints finding that out the hard way this year am i right? Brees is supposed to be hall of fame elite and yet they lose? Pats haven’t won a Super Bowl in a decade and they have a hall of fame QB. Colts will never amount to shit because you can’t just have Luck…which they have found out every year so far.

          • Beware the Jericho

            Steve Young tampa bay version much different than Steve Young surrounded by HOF’ers and pro bowlers am i right?

          • CanadaBear

            Really? Do Rodgers or Luck play D? The problem is he signed Cutler. And a bunch of other stiffs.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            He didn’t sign Cutler, he resigned him. He had to.
            Packers and Colts D are as pathetic as they come.
            The QB doesn’t play D, but influences the D more than the DC does.

          • johnnywad

            And neither of those teams will win more than one playoff game, if that.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            The patriots play them. They’ll put up 40 on them… minimum.

          • Beware the Jericho

            and on that note it’s apparent that you’ve been drinking all day and night. I’m out.

          • BerwynBomber

            Can’t say I agree with the he “had to” resign Cutler fallacy. Nor its false cousin of an argument “because if we didn’t we would be back to the Jonathan Quinn, Craig Krentzel, et al days”. There is a middle ground between Jay’s huge salary and those practice squad level dudes — that middle ground is known as the Kyle Ortons, Rex Grossmans and Jim Millers of the world. But the issue with those guys is you better have lights out Ds and STs if you plan to win, which we often did under Lovie and even Jauron that one year.

          • Beware the Jericho

            Canada, i think the problem is really deep here. After years of Angelo failing to address the aging defense and to build an NFL caliber offense Emery finds himself having to rebuild the team on the fly. They felt that the offense was close enough to being a strong point to bring in aging FA at certain positions, above average talent at others and draft a couple of rookies at others.
            The problem:
            Houston has busted so far
            Allen has busted so far
            Briggs got hurt and has mentally checked out
            Peanut hurt most of year
            Rookie DT’s ineffective
            Safety solutions completely ineffective and rookies overwhelmed and UFA’s now actually playing which is absurd.
            Slauson hurt, Mills playing like 5th rounder from LA Tech, Bushrod being embarrassed regularly, pocket collapsing after 2 seconds resulting in no ability to throw deep patterns from a clean pocket.
            No pass rush at all, no D schemes to hide our brutal linebackers, brutal safeties and lack of impact plays from Allen, Houston, Ratliff, etc.
            substandard MLB play from Williams and Bostic
            Brutal kick return game resulting in consistent starting field position of the 12 yd line when a return is tried.
            WR’s hurt in the beginning of the year, not getting ball enough to marshall and jeffery enough early in the game and not enough of the types of plays called from last year that had success (crossing routes, quick pitches to forte, quick slants and in from the WR’s, etc
            Several brutal turnovers by Cutler that affected games.

            I could go on forever.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            So when every move you make is based on the assumption ‘the offense was close enough to being a strong point’ and they fail miserably… of course it’s going to be a fuck up at all levels.

            The question about Emery at that point becomes. Did he do everything he could to help the Offense ? and ‘Should he have known/anticipated that the Offense was going to stink?.

          • Beware the Jericho

            right barb because they had so many D issues to address that they couldn’t do everything they wanted in one or two off seasons because it’s not a video game. the offense is having protection issues that have been pointed out BY EVERYONE. ALL 3 WR’s hurt in the very first game which fucked up everything….etc.
            The plays are not being run quickly and the ball is not coming out of Cutlers hands because every team knows if they just play a little off the ball there will be no time for a deeper route with this line and they can just crash on every short throw. watch the games.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Emery acquired the personnel to play any kind of Offense and sustain OL injuries. He bought in De La Puente, Ola and drafted an OT. So he anticipated that. I mean what else would you want more from your GM ? At Passing targets the Bears are staked like nobody. Wilson goes down he brings in Santonio Holmes.

          • Beware the Jericho

            i didn’t question the moves he made, i was referring to your insane comments about Rodgers winning multiple super bowls with this team. Then i was pointing out that there were too many issues to address that built up over years to address in one offseason. Even when people agree with you you still find a way to be a cunt. Nice job cunt.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            “the offense is having protection issues that have been pointed out BY EVERYONE. ALL 3 WR’s hurt in the very first game which fucked up everything….etc.
            The plays are not being run quickly and the ball is not coming out of Cutlers hands because every team knows if they just play a little off the ball there will be no time for a deeper route with this line and they can just crash on every short throw. watch the games.”

            You ain’t talking about Rogers here, gay anus.

          • BerwynBomber

            Some of his moves weren’t bad — Young and Ratliff and drafting Fuller for starters. I see PE as a mixed bag. The problem is the Trestman hiring and Cutler re-signing loom over everything. If he got both wrong, look out.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            It’s all connected. He hired Trestman to fix Cutler and he had to keep Cutler. No… actually…he had to keep Lovie wasting one year of the D, last one, then he had to bing in the QB guru to fix Cuter and it could have only be one that said yes to keeping the status quo on Defense and the hire of the only DC bum who would accept to ‘coordinate’ such an aberration.

          • Beware the Jericho

            no, he had to hire a real fucking play caller dude. Mike Fucking TICE? He also brought in the QB coach because he was respected and talented. Coach’s help players stay correct with technique and every team has them except maybe the Broncos.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            and when he then fired Lovie what would have happened to that ‘real fucking lay caller dude’ ? Yanked. Sure… a big time play caller would have jumped at that chance. Who doesn’t want to coordinate a Cutler led team, protected by Webb, Kelen Davis as slot threat and Devin Hester as deep threat. Get real. Tice wasn’t a choice, he was the only bum who was available.

          • But I’m not so sure many wouldn’t have signed those “stiffs”.
            1. Houston. By most accounts, he was a solid player even on a crappy team. I don’t remember anyone on the blog hating the signing. And, if anything, he DID help shore up the run D, which was really what he was brought in for.
            2. Allen. More of a desperation move esp since we lost out on the Bennett bidding war.
            Allen avg 10 sacks a season. By most statistical analysis, he was better than Pepp, not to mention the NON-statistical fact that he didn’t quit on the team like Pepp. At worse it was considered a wash.
            3. The safeties. Well, the fans wanted better safeties, but most of the money was invested on the Dline under the assumption that more rush = improved secondary, which is generally true when there is pressure (like the Panthers and Bengals of last year). Without pressure, no one held illusions that the safeties would hold up.
            4. Linebackers. Well, Briggs checked out. Was Emery supposed to know that? He was playing at a pretty high level last year before injury. Everyone assumed that if DJ remained healthy, he would be serviceable. That was dead wrong. Bostic has been inj, but even so, most thought we should find out about him, and Shea, well, everyone knows that story. Seems like Emery is irrationally attached to him, but hey, he did keep Greene and Christian Jones (and Bostic and Sharpton) around, just in case.

            What worries me more on D is how previously productive players (like Houston and Allen) suddenly suck.
            Pepp is playing better in GB, and it isn’t because of the position change.
            Something is rotten in D-mark, and that’s why I believe Tucker needs to be fired immediately. Him staying around may actually retard the evolution of our defensive players.

          • BerwynBomber

            In regard to Allen/Pep, a couple of points 1) most people considered Pep the better all-around player than Allen throughout their careers. Yes, Allen plays every down but he was never NEAR as versatile as Peppers. 2) Peppers played a little better last year than most think. Yeah, his numbers weren’t all that (though his game against Baltimore was epic and would make JJ Watt proud) but he was often receiving a ton of attention from the opposing team because the rest of the D was so porous.

            So yeah he’s playing decently for the Cheese but I’m not convinced it’s so much better than he played here last year. Plus, it helps a ton when you have #12 on your sideline who can turn the opposing team into a one-dimensional offense.

  • Big Mike

    The good news is the ticket brokers are taking a beating.. I’ll be in town for the Tampa game. I have two tickets, but was looking around for a few more (big tailgate party etc), 5 weeks ago 4 tickets in the United Club section around the 30 yard line, were about $500 each. Today, 4-tickets at the 40 yard line in the United Club were around $1,200.

  • TheBigCheesy

    Of all the bullshit going down on and off the field, this is the topic you chose to rant about?

    • GPLDAN

      Shut up.

      • Control your gimp, GP!

        • GPLDAN

          Get the blowtorch!

      • TheBigCheesy

        Seriously though… if there was EVER a week to unload on the Bears, this is it. Is it not? Has it been lower than this in the past 10 years?

        • BerwynBomber

          The unloading has been legion here. Blogfather’s rant topic is a nice break from it.

        • GPLDAN

          It hasn’t been lower than this in the past 40 years, Cheesy.

          Bring your Cheese friends to the blog. Go ahead. I mean, this is worse than the Packers under Forrest Gregg. By far. I would happily trade Cutler for the Majik man in his prime.

          • CanadaBear

            I might have been lower during the Wanny/McNown days. My most despised coach followed by my most despised Bears player. From ’94 through 2000 were a dark period for me.

          • GPLDAN

            Cade McCown was truly the low point.

            First day at rook camp he pulls up and parks in a handicap space and tells a reporter to fuck off when he mentions it.

            It was downhill from there.

          • CanadaBear

            He got busted for a fake handicapped parking pass at UCLA. Not to mention he fucks/steals his best friend’s (Tim Couch) girl Granted she was in Playboy but still you don’t fuck your buddies women. I used to be on the Trib board back then and supposedly it was the Cadester’s mom defending him all the time. We weren’t kind.

          • GPLDAN

            I forgot the Trib had a board.

            McCown was, in fairness to Wanny, Dickie Jauron’s idea and they waived Kramer once they had him.

            They passed over Daunte Culpepper and Donavan McNabb to get him. I didn’t know he fucked Tim Couch’s lady. What a douche.

          • CanadaBear

            When we picked him all these stories started coming out I was really worried. The leader of your team has to be respected and there’s no way people were going to respect him. I had to look it up. Wanny got cashed out and DJ and the Cadester came in. Gotta give mgmt credit, they cut bait with McNown after 2 years. One of the reasons I liked Angelo in the beginning was due to the decisive nature of the firing.

          • BerwynBomber

            “They passed over Daunte Culpepper and Donavan McNabb to get him.”
            You sure about that? As I recall McNown went about 12th in the draft but there were three or four QBs taken before him, including Culpepper, McNabb and Couch.

          • GPLDAN

            I am wrong, sorry.

            Donavan went #2 overall and Daunte went #11 just ahead of Cade.

            Next QB after that was at #50 overall in the 2nd round by the Bucs, who took Shaun King.

          • BerwynBomber

            Was McNown the Bears last first round QB or was Grossman first round too?

          • GPLDAN

            Grossman was a 1st rounder.

            Bears has two #1s that year, at 14 and 22. At 14 they picked Michael Haynes (FUCK PENN STATE) and then Sexy Rexy at 22.

          • BerwynBomber

            I figured Haynes as a bust as I had watched more than a few PSU games back then. He was more the specimen-type who showed the occasional flash, which is no reason to take a guy that high in the draft. Anthony Adams was the better lineman on that PSU team. They also had a helluva RB, a crafty QB (who unfortunately had a pop gun arm and no professional future) and a fine FG kicker that we know well.

          • #smallhands

            interestingly enough, Cullpepper also had small hands.

          • CanadaBear

            Most “NFL ready QB” was the phrase they kept applying to McNown at the time. Unfortunately they never said ready for what.

          • Cormonster

            I was dumbfounded and pissed when the Bears drafted him. I watched him play for UCLA against Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl that year. He had a noodle arm that cost UCLA a chance to win the game. He threw a pick six on a dumb throw with no velocity on the ball that sealed the game for Wisconsin.

          • Cormonster

            Around 96-2000 was my darkest period as a fan, because I knew there was no hope. I don’t even remember most of the players from that era. They are just blocked out of my mind.

  • For the record, I agree with Barb about Emery.
    I don’t know if he’s “elite”, but I DO know that he recognizes weaknesses. That he’s proactive about trying to address those weaknesses. That he doesn’t go by “group think” (for better – Long, or worse – Shea).
    He doesn’t sit on his ass in FA.
    Emery also appears to work under a philosophy and vision. It doesn’t seem like he’s just groping around playing grab ass like Angelo.
    That being said, Emery did hire Trestman instead of Arians, and the other coaches.
    Hopefully, he learned from that experience. Gotta remember, he was brought in primarily as a scouting expert. Emery may need some help in evaluating future HC candidates, help from FOOTBALL ppl, not the McCaskeys or Phillips.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      I never said ‘elite’. I said ‘top dog’. You can’t become elite if you don’t win. Emery has what it takes to become one.

      He has clear weaknesses and I’ve talked about them from last year up until now. Even 4 days ago when I said the only way he can regain his status of The Man was by going a press conference after the packer game and cut Briggs. He didn’t do that, which means he hasn’t leaned from his mistakes.

      PS: I agree with you. The Bears organization couldn’t have made things harder for him. He didn’t defeat these hurdles and that’s a stain on himself. I’m not bashing him for that, because he’s the best the Bears have and the true and only starting point…restarting point.

      • GPLDAN

        He’s an idiot.

        His acquisition of Marshall was at the behest of Jay. Everybody knows that.

        He reached for Shae and busted. HUGE bust.
        He traded up for Alshon and won.
        He went for Brandon Hardin. MB loves this guy.
        He went for Rodrqiuez in the 4th round and the guy was a character nightmare.
        He hasn’t panned out any lower rounders to speak of.
        Isiah Frey was his 5th rounder and he’s cut.
        Greg McCoy? Who?

        Next year he reaches for Long (a bit) and comes up good, but Long was projected to make a transition to RT or even LT and it’s never going to happen. In this zone block scheme you need the RT to be a mauler and that’s what Long is – while he’s young. In a few years his height will give him back issues because he’s always in 3 point but for now we will let that one slide.

        Bostic is not starting quality mike. Grade: C
        Greene is a bust. F
        Jordan Mills, he’s a liability but some credit for getting this many starts out of a 5th rounder. Grade: B
        Corneilius Washington: A specimen that can’t rush. D
        Marquess Wilson: Whole lotta promise, but nuthin. D

        He’s free agent pickups outside of Marshall, who wasn’t his idea?

        DJ WIlliams?
        Jared Allen?
        Houston?
        San Antoniio Holmes?
        No-name safeties?

        You can make a grade of B for Mundy and Young, that’s it. Young is situational, and is exposed as an every down end.

        This year was his best draft, but Fuller has been injury prone and may be this team’s Derrick Rose.

        Sutton and Fergo are good, not great. I will give this a pass so far.

        Stop fucking saying you like Kadeem Carey’s game. He’s slow and small. He’s mother fucking Garrett Wolfe in sheep’s clothing.

        I will give him some credit for Brock Vereen in the 5th. He pissed away David Fails. Charles Leno did nothing and he spent a big pick on a punter whose stats are probably equal to anybody he could have gotten on the wire.

        He PICKED Trestman after a nightmare coaching search of, like, 30 people, where he left top talent out there like Mike McCoy and Bruce Arians. Arians said that meeting with the Bears is awkward and weird.

        Emery is a FUCKING TOOOOOOOOOL. He is Jerry Angelo with slightly better draft skills and slightly worse management acumen. He should lick Cliff Stein’s boots every day.

        So fuck this top dog shit. So much bullshit.

        • Trac

          My eyebrow started quivering while reading this post. Too much common sense for Barb I think.

        • TheBigCheesy

          The debate is over. Phil Emery is a fucking clown.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Again: Thompson has in 9 years 1 SB and 1 NFL Championship appearance. Same as Gerry Angelo.

            Way to waste a Hall of Fame QB.

          • Trac

            I’d take their success over ours this past decade. In a heartbeat. They’re in waay better shape for the future than us.

          • Don’t make me like you, Barb.

          • BerwynBomber

            I’m not convinced McCarthy is all that either. Too many bonehead moves over the years. That across the field PR lateral play against us in 2012 still rates as my all-time WTF are you thinking HC move. All GB had to do was the run the ball at that point, even if meant going three and out, as our O had a fork in it. Instead, McCarthy almost single-handedly costed his team a convincing victory.

          • TheBigCheesy

            Again: you’re not very bright.

        • DaMurph

          Well written rant MB, and agree with you!! He seems to be another Angelo, refuses to take the obvious pick, always tries to make himself look like a drafting genius and ends up looking like a fool. You can tell by watching and listening to him he would be a weird interviewer. Codys email, who would give up that experience? Everyone! Who wants to sit through embarassments and watch the team you love get fucking annihilated? Ive been watching games going on for about 50 years, and even the bad years were better than this shit! Some positives happened, I see nothing positive happening!!

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          He started with the worst WR, OL, TE group in the NFL. His offense become Top 5 in the first year. Fucking McCown looked like All Pro working with that unit. The Defense is coordinated by Tucker. Emery could have brought in JJ Watt, Byrd and Revis and they would have been shit.

          You’re clueless. Pour yourself a drink for fuck’s sake.

        • Wow. We disagree on something. Let the Da Blog Scribe write this down in Blog history.

          1. Me (and MB and a few others) always had the nagging feeling that the first draft was left to Lovie and gang. Also, keep in mind, Emery had to use the same scouts for the most part. Don’t believe me? Just look at the huge difference between the first and last draft with Emery. Tell me it doesn’t look markedly improved.

          I was no fan of a lot of those guys in the first draft, but I hold to my theory that many of them were Lovie specials. Shea esp strikes me as a Lovie special. he always liked those under-sized Dlinemen.

          2. Second draft was better. I hated the Long pick at first, but I was proven wrong. He’s a future PB. Mills is a starting OT, and in my book, OG. He just happens to be inj this year.
          I wasn’t too thrilled about Bostic, and Greene at that slot was OK.

          3. It’s too early too tell on this draft class, but it looks solid. I’m also no fan of Carey (to say the least) or Fales, but hey, no GM bats .900.

          For the draft, Alshon, Long and Fuller are PBs.

          In other words, Emery has drafted 3 pro-bowlers in 3 drafts, and more than a few starters and possible gems (Wilson, Mills, Sutton etc).

          FAs

          DJ WIlliams? He does suck.
          Jared Allen? Jury still out IMO. I blame the D.C. more than anything.
          Houston? Did shore up the run D. Pass rush was just ancillary.
          San Antoniio Holmes? Just there till Wilson returned.
          No-name safeties? Ran out of $ trying to fix the worst Dline in Bears history.

          We’re also going to have about $35M in cap next year, if I remember correctly. So add that to another possible ProBowler drafted and a few other moves, and I don’t think Emery’s doing all that badly.

          HOWEVER, the MAJOR fuck up is going for Trestman over Arians. That is almost unforgivable. If you want to hang him for that alone, I could understand, but not for his FA and draft records.

          To do so, we would have to compare a “championship GM” the last 3 years and see how Emery stacks up against him.

          We all wanted the G-men’s GM when we were perusing GMs, so maybe he would be a good candidate for such a compare/contrast

          (Spoiler alert. The Giants SUCK.)

    • Trac

      I disagree on principle. Free agency is to GM’s as Crack is to a lab rat. This team would be better served to build from the bottom up, not from the top down. Sure, if we’re missing a piece here or there, then by all means, shop the market, but be smart about it. Emery did not know this teams weaknesses before the season started. That’s on him 100%

      • Holy crap, me and Barb agree. It’s like an unholy alliance.

        Emery DID recognize EVERY weakness on the Bears, which is already much better than Angelo.
        He recognized a horrible Oline. Got that fixed. Is it Dallas circa 90s? No. But it’s very serviceable.
        He got REAL WRs. He got a REAL TE. Holy shit, you say “grow talent?”. Bennett was an FA. Remember Kellen Davis? Name one TE drafted out of the 1st round (in the past 3yrs) who’s better than Bennet right now?
        Same with LT. Bushrod is an FA acquisition. a successful one.
        So is Slauson, esp for the price. DeLaPunete is no schmuck. So you’re arguing, Emery should have just not signed any of these guys? That he should have drafted all them?
        He didn’t have enough draft picks to overcome Angelo’s decade reign of incompetency.

        Is it Emery’s fault he got left with an old and checked out Dline? He tried to get the other Bennett. It didn’t happen, but he tried. He instead had to settle for Mullett man, which might be questionable, but how did he know he would regress so much?
        I could go on and on, but this whole “GB home grows winners” is BS.
        Didn’t help them when they got booted from the 1st round of the playoffs for the past few years.

        I agree, we gotta build through the draft, but Emery was brought in to win NOW. He was. That’s what his owners expected. If not, why force Lovie on him the first year?

        The window was 2-3 years, and Emery tried to fill the holes that he inherited through free agency, with mixed results, but they’re not all total disasters.

      • johnnywad

        That’s not quite right. He tried to address as many weaknesses as he could. Willie Young, Jared Allen, Lamaar Houston, Kyle Fuller, Sutton, Ferguson, Vereen, Mindy, Sharpton, Jones. Those were all efforts to address needs. There is no magic bullet to fix the defense he had in one off season. If the draft picks can play, that off season is at least average if not above average.

        What he failed to see, what everybody falied to see, was that the offense would tank. I still don’t get that. He also failed to see that Mel Tucker is bad. His level of bad was masked by injury and predetermined scheme adoption.

        Additionally, he probably couldn’t assume, and neither would I, that Trestman would lose the team. But he has. If he turns it around, fine. Maybe he gets to stay. But Tucker has to go. You can’t win meaningful games with him at the controls of the D. He’s just not good. He doesn’t have much to work with, but there’s nothing in his resume that proves otherwise. Further, there will be no proven commodity available as a DC to hitch his wagon to Trestman should he survive to coach next year. So it has to be either a promotion from within, or some badass new shooter. My hope is that its the latter.

        • Trac

          Tried? We’re 3-6 and worse than last year. Worse than our 10-6 as well. Like I said, you wont build a team from the top down.

  • BerwynBomber

    I’d be inclined to sit Briggs the rest of the year except our final home game. Let him play that one and send him out on an appreciative note. Briggs has had his selfish moments but largely he’s balled out the majority of his career and is deserving of a nice round of applause.

    • CanadaBear

      If he’s better than the kids, let him keep playing. The kids have had plenty of time to play the last 1.5 years.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah, I wouldn’t argue with that either. My post was directed more at the “cut him now” crowd.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          he should have been traded weeks ago, cut this week.

          • agree. We probably could have traded him for Mark Barron on the Bucs.
            Yeah, he’s a bust, but at least he’s a 1st round safety in his prime. Kick the tires.
            Briggs is gone fishing already.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Traded for nothing… conditional pick…just get rid of that ‘element’.

          • Beware the Jericho

            i don’t think Lovie would deal any player to us unless he knew they had ebola and no one else did.

  • GPLDAN

    I finally listened to the podcast Rant, which I rarely do.

    Jeff loves his straw men.

    I don’t know who all these “Twatter users” are saying boycott, what I’ve seen here is that we were discussing dispensing bags to wear over the head. Ala Tampa Bay in the creamsicle years, ala the winless Colts and winless Lions years.

    Bag campaigns send the best messages to ownership: your management is an embarrassment.

    As for how badly they want to win for Ginny prior to her last day above the ground, well that’s hard to say.

    I would personally say that if you wanted to show a predilection to win, you don’t let your fucking accountant run the fucking team for over a decade. I think what they want is to keep the valuation up (still massively undervalued as a franchise) and keep cash flow and profit percentage up. That’s what I think, and that’s what most of the Chicago media thinks as well.

  • BearDown100393

    I’m embarrassed by the Bears. There is losing and then there is being annihilated in back to back games. The promise of a new era of accountability was a lie. The vote of confidence bestowed upon the coaching staff is a farce. The only identity consistent with this team is defeatism. The rhetoric is condescending. “Cleaning up things” in early season loses is now replaced “we’re not a good football team”. Players blamed the “negative media” and yapped about booing fans (Long) while suggesting they should “eat dirt” (Houston). And when it appears the good ship Bears could not possibly sink any lower, a new oceanic trench is found to crush the hull a bit more as it slides downward into the dark abyss. Now Marshall wants to fight Lions fans under the guise of anti-bullying charity. If the Bears lived up to their collective Twitter bravado, they would contend for a Super Bowl appearance. All fans are left with is arguing over which side side of the ball is worse – a dysfunctional offense versus a talent deficient defense. Apparently both look great against each other in practice and terrible on game day. Go figure. This is a bad football team infected with a lunatic mentality that would shame even Kenny Powers. Eastbound & Down has taken up residence at Halas Hall. And it looks to be staying.

  • Cormonster

    What a difference a day makes. Today I get to watch my favorite college team Wisconsin play. They have the top ranked defense in the country with 9 new starters this year with no real stars. They just play sound, fundamental defense with lots of creative schemes and complex looks.

    Then tomorrow I have to watch the Bears defense do whatever it does. I’m not quite sure what that is. Maybe I’ll watch college hoops instead. The Badgers play Chatanooga at noon tomorrow.

    • BerwynBomber

      Wow, Gordon might run for 400 against Nebraska.

      • SC Dave

        408 right now. All time record. The way its going, he might as well go for 500.

        • Cormonster

          408 yards rushing on 25 carries in 3 quarters is INCREDIBLE! Well done Melvin. That dude is a competitor. He always plays great in the big games, not just against the chumps.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Lots of head shaking in Husker land right now. Wow!

    • SC Dave

      Gotta think the Husker fans feel a bit like us right now.

  • TheBigCheesy

    HaHa is mediocre? That’s news to me.

    • johnnywad

      That’s the general consensus. I don’t watch much Packers football, but that seems to be the general perception amongst “experts”.

      • BerwynBomber

        Dix has been okay and one might rate him higher merely for starting and holding his own as a rook.

        But Blogfather failed to mention Malcom Jenkins, who has been a rock for the Iggles and is one of the five best safeties in the league. Jenkins was available the past off-season.

  • Doc Hamstring

    Byrd and Ward on IR doesn’t mean that they would’ve ended up injured had they been Bears.

    Guys aren’t destined for injuries. For all you know, if Bucannon (who is “solid”) ends up on the Bears, he might’ve suffered a season-ending injury in week 1.

  • CanadaBear

    Shea is Lovie’s pick?. Why is he here instead of Tampa? Allen sucks and I don’t remember universal rejoicing when we signed him. Mostly everyone was reserved and waiting to see. PE made no credible attempt to fix the safety spot. Cutler’s contract can be manipulated a bunch of different ways to free up some space. PE didn’t try. Mundy is a younger Steltz. Even in our worst years under Lovie Steltz was never the official starter unless we were down at least 2 safeties. I have seen almost nothing from Bostic and Greene. The two new DT’s may be decent who knows. Also, when did Fuller get elected to the Pro Bowl? And the most damning stat of all, I don’t remember any Bears team laying down like this team the last 2 games. That’s either the coaches or the GM has picked a poisonous mix that doesn’t fit and has tin man’s disease. I counted 9 players on the roster that played for Lovie. That’s less than 20% of the roster.

    • Big Mike

      Canada, it’s the coaching staff not the GM. Allen’s lack of production is a surprise. Couldn’t see that coming. He’s been a model of consistency. Fuller will be a starter/near pro-bowl guy for years to come. At safety, they decided to throw bodies at the problem while they tried to fix everything else. Radcliffe was a great signing. Lamar Houston wasn’t. Lot of short term money at the top. So that was smart. We knew the defense was pieced together and needed to develop chemistry. That hasn’t happened. But blame for the shit show that is this years Chicago Bears lays squarely on the offense. That unit needed to put up 28 per game and more importantly put up points early. Any debate on the Chicago Bears has to start with the fact that our offense has sucked mightily. That starts with Trestman and Cutler. They have been terrible. Worst in the league. Yeah the defense was embarassed the last two weeks, but if the Bears score a couple touchdowns in the first half of either of those games, GB doesn’t hoist 42 points up in the first half. NE doesn’t put up 38.

      I’m not saying the defense isn’t laughable, but the offense is responsible for the failure of this team.

      • CanadaBear

        I agree Cutler and Nessman have sucked but the D is so bad we couldn’t have scored enough points to win either of the last 2 games. OK, say we score a couple of TD’s early in both games. All that means is Bellichick and McCarthy call off the dogs in the late 3rd quarter or 4th quarter instead of at halftime. We were historically bad last year and PE ignored trouble spots (safety/LB) and the signings he made have been underwhelming. Houston has been as advertised, a run-stuffing DE with no finish trying to get sacks. I’m totally OK with that signing if he wasn’t so overpaid. Allen has sucked. It was a huge risk to sign an old, under-sized DE to crazy money. PE’s idea of ST’s is to make sure you have a punter, kicker and holder. No need for anyone else, just use some of those fabulous signings and draft picks. Anyone can play ST’s, how hard can it be?

        Cutler has sucked and killed our O. Nessman hasn’t a clue how to fix Cutler (nobody does). The OL has sucked all year and isn’t getting better any time soon. PE picked Nessman to fix Cutler. There’s no fixing him and Nessman is pretty useless other than as a QB whisperer. We’re completely fucked for the next 2 years at least.

        • Big Mike

          I don’t think we would have won either game, but we wouldn’t be laughingstocks and we would have beaten Buffalo and Carolina and would be looking at 5-4 not 3-6 if the offense had simply not sucked. Special teams is just a mess.

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