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DaBearsBlog Poll: Lovie Smith’s Return

| November 19th, 2014

If you have not read Adam Jahns’ excellent piece in the Sun-Times on Lovie Smith’s impact on the Chicago Bears defense, CLICK HERE AND GO READ IT NOW. An excerpt:

For Tillman, Smith motivated through positive reinforcement. He referred to Tillman as an All-Pro cornerback in defensive meetings even though he wasn’t at that point in his career. It happened whenever the Bears faced the Detroit Lions and star receiver Calvin Johnson.

‘‘He’d be like, ‘They got their best player. We got our best player. I got all the confidence in the world in Peanut,’ ” Tillman said. ‘‘It was the confidence that he had in his players. You really felt it.

‘‘I believe in speaking words into existence. Part of being a coach is motivating your players, and it definitely got me going. My confidence was that much higher.’’

There’s even better stuff in the piece. Part of me wishes something like this had been written while Lovie was still the coach.

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  • BillW

    First – and I promise to only vote once

    • BillW

      Wanting to send him home with a loss

      • DaBearsBlog

        You should only be allowed to vote once. But who the fuck knows if I did this right.

        • BillW

          Didn’t try.

          • BillW

            If you refresh the screen it looks like you can vote again but it doesn’t count it,

  • wreckinball

    Voted struggling to care about Lovie. Its hard to develop any emotion because he shows none. Trestman shows even less if thats possible.
    But they better beat him.

  • Shady

    There’s never been so much on the line for such a meaningless game. This one should split the fan base into two groups.

    If you still believe in the Chicago Bears and their approach to building a “multiple Championship” contender, then you are rooting for validation for letting Lovie go and bringing in a new GM and offensive minded QB guru.

    If on the other hand you’re hoping for a “clean house” type of offseason for the Bears, you’ll be rooting for Lovie and McCown to return to Soldier Field and embarrass the Rochester Jeffersons. A few takeaways from Cutler, a few deep TD bombs to Jackson and Evans and Lovie could seal the fate for Trestman and Co. exposing the Bears as frauds (Jeffersons).

    As a staunch Lovie Loyal, you can bet MB and his dolphin smooth nutsack will be rooting for the latter.

    • Trac

      I want Lovie to win more than this team. The Bears will gain more from losing this game than winning it and I have more affection for Lovie than this group of underachieving prima donna’s.

      • GPLDAN

        Trac is like Baby Gere and Lou Gossett Jr. is like Lovie

        • Trac

          Thanks a lot. I hated that movie.

    • SC Dave

      Nice try, and if anyone could do it it’s you Shady, but that ain’t bringing MB back.

  • BillW

    Just read the Jahns article. When you read how he inspired the team – at least the defense – you wonder how could he not succeed?

    I do tend cynical so I wonder what’s the other side? Seems like its an easy fix for Emery. Keep Lovie, force a good oc on him, build the offense parts and the Bears are set,

    So what is the reality?,

  • wreckinball

    I can see canning Lovie because the team was stagnated.NFL is cut throat except if you are Marvin Lewis for some reason.

    • BerwynBomber

      Or Jeff Fisher. Or Gary Kubiak.

      • wreckinball

        Similar except Lewis has managed to Bungle it all with one team, Kubiak finally reached his expiration date

  • Bears-4-Ever

    If Lovie Smith was our Defensive Coordinator Today…it would not matter in the least. Fielding the defensive squad we currently have, I doubt anyone could make an impact at this point. Too many weaknesses to fix.

    • GPLDAN

      Jared is going to come on strong the back half of the season in a vain attempt to stay one more year in the NFL.

      • Bears-4-Ever

        “Vain” being the key word there my friend.

  • TheBigCheesy

    No option for a Lovie victory? I feel like there are some fans who want to send Trestman and Co. packing ASAP

    • Bears-4-Ever

      Why would we want that Chessy? At this point Trestman would have to win every game to keep his job…but I don’t ever root against the Bears no matter how pathetic they are. Call is “Cub-Syndrome” and many in Chicago suffer under it’s masochistic powah!

      • TheBigCheesy

        I think Trestman keeps his job with 8-8 season

        • Bears-4-Ever

          Knowing how the Bears Ownership Corps historically works, Sadly, I have to agree with you…

        • BillW

          I think he keeps it with a 7-9 season – improvement over the 3-5 first half

          • wreckinball

            Definitely agree with 7-9, heck 6-10 may also do.

          • BillW

            Barring any more Jeffersonian performances I agree.

  • GPLDAN
    • Bears-4-Ever

      RG3 will become another Vick…He has a future as a Back-up but that’s about it.

      • BerwynBomber

        If RG3 becomes “another Vick” Washington would be content. I think you’re underestimating the career Vick had.

    • wreckinball

      RG3 will get at least one more chance probably with the Skins next year. Cutler and the Bronco’s divorced and he got another chance.
      Trestman is cooked in the end but I think if he just stems some of the bleeding, beats Lovie, wins 6-7 games he’ll be back next year.

    • Trac

      RG’S problem is he tries to do too much. Great athlete, not a smart football player. Gruden is fed up with him.

    • John Doe

      Trestman has 2 years left on his contract. Do you think McCaskeys are ready to eat more contract money? They just ate up Lovie’s $5 Million for firing him with 1 year left on his contract.

      • GPLDAN

        Probably not. They are too cheap.

    • BearDown100393

      It will be a tie. Before permanently being exiled from the NFL, both will temporarily reside in Pro Football Purgatory as Raiders employees.

    • BillW

      Maybe no longer a factor, but I will always remember RGIII for staying in the game with essentially the same injury Cutler had in the NFC Championship. And that many – including me – thought he did that to avoid the same criticism Cutler got for going out.

      • CanadaBear

        Shanny the Tranny (thanks GP) is at fault on that one. RG3 shouldn’t have been on that field. It was sickening watching it.

        • GPLDAN

          Picture Shanny replacing Tim Curry in Rocky Horror. You know you can.

          • I’m trying to eat here.
            Also, I noticed, you’re starting Gray Poupon now in FF.
            The funny part? Old Wiley Bill will then proceed to hand the ball to Vereen for 200.

            Bank on it lol

          • Cormonster

            Nobody is going to run well on the Lions. If I played FF no way would I start any back against that defense.

          • johnnywad

            I agree Cor. I think (hope) the Lions are due for a skid here soon. But I don’t think its coming from that side of the ball.

          • CanadaBear

            I just did!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • BerwynBomber

          ITA. But RG3 also seemed destined for multiple visits to the IR list in his career. Unlike say R. Wilson (or even Johnny Football while in college) RG3 does not possess the innate ability to protect his body when he breaks from the pocket. He has taken many a huge hit already in his short career.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          agree partly. I think a lot has to be on Snyder also. He shoved RG3 down shannys throat, and is doing pretty much the same with the new coaching staff – not that the other QB options they have are any good.

      • BearDown100393

        Very well might be right on that point, I certainly had the same thought. I do not blame the attempt to see if he could play with that injury. But certainly when it was painfully obvious that he could not, the head coach should have taken him out of the game. RGIII has never been the same since.

      • beninnorcal

        Also may have ruined his career, hence, maybe not the best idea to stay in that game.

    • I would like to see RG3 on the Rams.
      Kap, Wilson and RG3 in the same division would be exciting.
      Not to mention, the Cards with Palmer.

    • SC Dave

      Your carping on Trestman has become as tiring as Johnny’s adulation of Cutler.

      But Johnny, we still need to coordinate that new craft beer toast before kickoff. It worked last week

  • BillW

    I don’t get the Lovie love in the poll. I would n’t boo him but a warm welcome might be revisionist given what happened this year. To me, Lovie was a great defensive coach but not a good head coach. He was arrogant in answering legit questions from the press – took over undeserved power after getting to the SB (“Trust Me”) and the team never was as good again. Sure LOTS of reasons why other than Lovie but overall he was to me another in a long line of failed promises.

    • BearDown100393

      A little show of respect from the home crowd after 9 seasons of service does not sound that unreasonable does it? The poll didn’t suggest canonizing the man.

      • johnnywad

        Don’t get this sentiment at all. The guy was paid quite handsomely for his time. He was even paid to not work a year to the tune of $5M. Not like his “service” was volunteer humanitarianism. Far as I’m concerned, nobody owes anybody anything.

        • BerwynBomber

          And you would feel this way about every player who ever returns in another uniform too, correct?

          • johnnywad

            No. I just got tired of Lovie’s smugness.

          • johnnywad

            If Charles Tillman, or Matt Forte or the like ended up in another jersey, I’d still welcome them back. They seem to be genuinely good dudes and good to great players. Lovie was average to slightly above and still seemed arrogant at the end to me.

          • BearDown100393

            Brian Urlacher?

          • johnnywad

            I struggle with him. For me, I need to like the player as much as his play for this sort of thing. Lach was great on the field, but kind of a tool off of it. He’s still proving that today.

        • BearDown100393

          Because I still like to believe the Chicago Bears are an organization with an understanding of class. And that extends to the fan base as well. He certainly does not deserve a negative response from Soldier Field. And IMO does not warrant an indifferent one either. If that is too Kumbaya for others, so be it.

  • johnnywad

    Marc Trestman struggling doesn’t make Lovie a better coach. There’s no need to welcome him back. He was average and on occasion, slightly above average. I was really hoping his exodus would net us the next Bill Belichick. It didn’t. I still have hope that Trestman will get his head out of his ass and use his giant intellect to win. Its waning, but its hope.

    I couldn’t give a smaller flying fuck what Lovie is up to it where he’s going. Should have known when he basically escorted Chico from the building. Let’s steamroll the Bucs and see what happens on Thanksgiving. There is still like an 8% chance the Bears can sneak up and grab a Wild Card. So I’ll hang my hat on that. Lovie is just a speed bump in the way.

    • BearDown100393

      I understand your point however the Bears failing to net the next Bill Belichick does not make Lovie Smith a worse coach either.

      • BerwynBomber

        Lovie was a good coach here. I think the problem in Tampa will be that they gave him GM-like control of the team. For all the grief we want to give Angelo he was a better evaluator than Lovie. Plus, I can’t imagine how those duties will not detract from his coaching.

        • BearDown100393

          He was a good defensive minded coach with near unanimous support and respect from his players. The offensive side of the game never really worked out. And that is unfortunate. As for his new tenure in Tampa Bay, I do not really care! Not my team.

          • BerwynBomber

            Well, I love football not just the Bears so I tend to care for all teams, to a degree, especially if there is a compelling storyline and/or they are an opponent of the Bears. That said, I’m certainly no expert on TB. Just a five-states away suspicion of what might happen there.

        • JerryTheCancer

          Angelo wasn’t a better evaluator than ANYBODY. He picked about 4 good players in 11 years.

  • I voted to for a “warm reception” for Lovie. I wanted him off the team as much as MB, but at least his teams never quit on him (sometimes to the detriment of the org, like that meaningless .500 game vs the Vikes that got Lach inj). Lovie, somehow, got us to the the NFC Championship and even SB with REX fucking Grossman.
    He (and Lach) also gave Rodgers the most trouble by far of any defense.
    So everyone should give him a golf-clap whilst wearing a Cedric Benson jersey.

    • johnnywad

      I think being All Pro or near it at multiple defensive positions simultaneously, got him to the Super Bowl. Not to detract from his success, its still hard to do, but most NFL coaches would have been able to get there with Lach and co. that year

      • johnnywad

        Perhaps”most” is a poor choice of words. Let’s use “several” instead

      • Then you would have to give Jerry Angelo credit for providing Lovie with that much talent.

        • johnnywad

          Begrudgingly

        • CanadaBear

          Not #54!!!!!!!!!!! That was Hatley.

  • CanadaBear

    The voting didn’t have a button for “warm welcome for Lovie and then we kick his ass”. At least, that’s my feelings on it.

    • EnderWiggin

      Perfect. I wanted to click 1 and 3, lol.
      I voted 1.

  • BerwynBomber

    Vikings claim Ben Tate off waivers; the message, I presume, being they don’t believe AP will win his appeal.

    Wonder which team will be first to talk themselves into Blount.

    • wreckinball

      Chong will get one more chance

  • beninnorcal

    Lots of Lovie-bashing around here today. I think it was the right thing to move on but the jury is still out on Trest.
    Say what you will about Lovie’s Bears but I do know this: while we wouldn’t have won in SF(still not sure how we did) we also wouldn’t have lost to Buf, Mia, or Car. Lovie rarely lost to inferior teams.

  • SC Dave

    Either:
    1) You are a Bears fan, and you want us to win
    2) You are something else, so who cares you think about this game

    • Trac

      Or you are a Bears fan who wants a winning team. A victory against the bucs won’t mean a whole lot at this point.

  • wreckinball

    Let’s win

  • TheBigCheesy

    Isn’t Lovie the 3rd best Bears coach of all time behind Halas and Ditka?

    • Trac

      Yes, that’s why the McCaskeys were trepadatious about firing him. People forget how many wins Chicago had under him because of the Hester and Martz project.

  • Cormonster

    Here’s an amazing video of the greatest rushing performance in college football history by Melvin Gordon last Saturday. Nebraska’s run defense has been pretty stout this year, which makes this performance all the more impressive. This guy has the potential to be a future star in the NFL.

    • Cormonster

      Butch, this is for you especially.

    • Trac

      What a beast. His arms made Thomas Jones guns look average. I’d use a 3rd round pick on him. Hahaha

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