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Chicago Bears 2014 First Round Selection: Kyle Fuller

| May 9th, 2014

Kyle Fuller is the newest addition to the Chicago Bears.

Thoughts and information on Fuller:

STRENGTHS: Physical demeanor with good length, playing with excellent toughness and energy as if he were 25 pounds thicker. Good vertical leap and smooth hip action to flip-and-go. Smart route recognition and outstanding read/react quickness to mirror or plant-and-drive to attack.

Above average anticipation and cover instincts – obviously studies receivers and does his homework to know what to look for without hesitation. Physical in run support and works hard to get off blocks.

Closes in a flash with a fierce attitude. Heady and opportunistic player, always looking to strip the ball and force turnovers. Very good ball awareness and NFL ballskills.

Experience lining up in the slot and using his timing to penetrate the backfield as a blitzer. Experience playing inside and outside and at safety, linebacker and special teams. Four year starter with productive numbers.

WEAKNESSES: Very lean with limited muscle definition and overall growth potential to get much bigger. Overaggressive nature will get him in trouble at times, overpursuing in coverage or run support.

Lacks elite speed and to recover after initially beat off the line of scrimmage. Too hands on at times and will have some mental errors, getting caught out of position when trying to freelance. Needs to consistently wrap up when he makes initial contact and will miss tackles due to inconsistent form, including ducking his helmet before contact. Strong durability concerns with his physical style and lean body type. Senior season ended prematurely due to hernia surgery in Nov. 2013.

Is Fuller is going to be a great Bear? Who knows. Corners in the first round are crap shoots. But it was clear Fuller was climbing draft boards across the league in recent weeks.

 

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  • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

    emery pissed on it

    • Trac

      I can’t get behind this pick with any enthusiasm whatsoever. I’ll tell you one thing, Emery makes every round but the 1st exciting. I’m gonna spend the rest of the draft hoping for a silver lining.

  • beninnorcal

    Hurry, someone make me feel better about this pick, I was bummed that Donald went 1 pixk before.

    • BearFanInDE

      Amen beninnorcal!! The espn crew seemed genuinely surprised and fumbled for something to say..it’s like they were googling him right there

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      Step back from the ledge, bro.

      1. What’s the highest paid player on D?
      2. What did we draft in the first?
      3. Is he a baller?
      4. Will he produce from day one at nickel and ST?

      Looks like we hit gold. Six picks left.

      Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor Ben?

  • Shady

    Clearly Peanut is moving to Safety.

    • DaBearsBlog

      No chance.

      • Shady

        Kidding… For now.

    • Big Mike

      I like that idea

    • nope. He refuses. Not happening.

      IMO Fuller is the nickel this year and will take over for Tillman next year.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      … or Kyle Fuller.

      We passed on Byrd and TJ Ward in FA. Calvin Pryor was there ….. are they really giving Conte another year?

      Initial feeling is that we got a really good player …. that we don’t need as much as a 3T. I guess the 3T comes in the next round, Tuitt or Sutton.

      See Fuller’s leap at about 0:17 ? Remind you of a hairball on the steelers ?

  • BearFanInDE

    Jeff – the 1st comment in last thread nailed it!!
    Is emery commenting here??!

    • Shady

      Just give him the tickets now.

  • Shady

    OVERVIEW

    Is part of a quartet of Fuller brothers to play for Virginia Tech. His oldest brother, Vincent, lettered for the Hokies from 2001-2004 and played parts of seven years in the NFL with Tennessee and Detroit. Was teammates with brother Corey (who is now with the Lions) in 2012. Played alongside his youngest brother Kendall in the Tech secondary in 2013. His cousin Damien Russell started the family tradition when he played for the Hokies from 1988-1991. In high school, the Baltimore native missed most of his senior year with a finger injury. Arrived in 2010 and saw action in 12 games as a true freshman, starting six games (two at boundary corner, one at field corner, three at the whip linebacker position). Recorded 32 tackles, six pass breakups and no interceptions with four tackles for loss and one forced fumble. Made all 14 starts in 2011 (seven at CB, seven at the nickelback/whip) and had 65 tackles, seven pass breakups and two interceptions with a team-high 14.5 tackles for loss, 4.5 sacks and one forced fumble. Recovered a blocked punt in the end zone against Appalachian State. Started all 13 games at cornerback in 2012 and had 52 tackles, five pass breakups and two sacks with three tackles for loss and one forced fumble. Was limited to nine games (eight starts) in 2013 with a sports hernia, undergoing surgery in late November (Dr. William Meyers). Missed four games with the injury. Had 24 tackles, 10 pass breakups and two interceptions with two tackles for loss, one forced fumble and his first career blocked punt. Team captain.

    STRENGTHS Good size and balance. Plays faster than he times thanks to keen instincts, anticipation and route recognition. Zone aware with good eyes, ball reactions and hands to intercept. Outstanding leaping ability. Willing run supporter. Has special-teams experience, including as a gunner and jammer. Tough and durable — logged 42 career starts. Team captain who understands what it means to be a pro. Was a 21-year-old senior.

    WEAKNESSES Could stand to get stronger — managed just 12 benchpress reps at the Combine. Man-cover limitations. Lacks twitch for the position. Has a choppy pedal and some tightness in transition. Gives up separation at the break point. Average production on the ball. Shows some stiffness when required to break down and tackle in space. Slips off some tackles. Squats on routes and is susceptible to double moves. DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 1-2

    BOTTOM LINE Narrow-framed, confident, competitive off-man/zone corner with nice length, field speed and awareness. Is capable of contributing early on special teams and in sub packages.

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/kyle-fuller?id=2543681

    • Trac

      A non sexy pick that phil pulled the trigger on too soon again. I’m gonna have to trust Barbs analysis.

    • Shady

      DRAFT ANALYSIS:

      “Talk bout DNA. His older brother Vincent played in the NFL. He other older brother Corey plays for the Lions. He played with his younger brother Kendall, who was a freshman at Virginia Tech (in 2013). I thought he was most NFL-ready cornerback I saw on tape. He doesn’t move as fast as Justin Gilbert. In run support, he reminds me of (Kansas City Chiefs cornerback) Brandon Flowers when he came out of Virginia Tech. Fuller can play nickel corner on Day 1.” — Mike Mayock

      Brandon Flowers, also a Phil Emery pick.

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        sounds good, maybe he can teach Conte how to fucking tackle, Jennings how to fucking cover, Mundy how to play FS, Danny whatever the fuck his name is from the Cowboys not to suck, Walters to not be a huge pussy and Steltz to shave .3 off his 40 and turn black.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    I love when guys are not satisfied with the Bears taking the 2nd CB on their board. These are the first to cry when the likes of Cobb or some TE puts 100 yard games non stop on the Bears. PS: The Patriots have 6 starting type CB. Let’s don’t do it like them, cause we know how to draft 3-T DT. I LOVE THE PICK. Score a lot of points and play nickel behind that all brad new DE corps. Emery is a beast.

    • Trac

      I’m going to have to subscribe to your newsletter. Hope you are right.

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      first, suck my digital cock.
      second, our safety’s and D line DIRECTLY RESULTED IN US NOT GOING TO THE PLAYOFFS. The middle of the field was the issue because SS and FS were the issue.
      Ignoring that fact and going into the 2nd round of the draft without a starting safety is fucking bullshit. Now you have to choose between DT and S in 2nd round and thus you will NOT ADDRESS a huge need of the team that allowed a top ranked O not to go to the post season.

      • lol oh oh, what’s that sound!?

        http://youtu.be/mlG2Ed6Jpr4

        • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

          Zooooooom goes the Henkel 111.

      • Trac

        Dix will be a Packer, watch. We’ll find out twice a year how good he is.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          lol

        • Big Mike

          You called it

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        So you want your GM reaching for needs. So even if he graded the first S as a 20+ grade you still want him to pick hat S ? That’s wrong. He’ll get a S tomorrow. I bet on that Bucannon kid.

        • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

          I want my GM to address the needs that kept us out of the playoffs. Safety and DT were those positions not addressed so far in FA and they could have addressed S now and DT tomorrow. Fuller is not garbage, just not the pick we needed.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            They signed Ratliff at DT and Mundy at S. CB was a need also. Plus, you don’t draft needs reaching, but the best player at positions of near future needs. There are DT there tomorrow…only one has been drafted untill pick 22.

          • Shady

            Houston can also slide into that 3-T spot.

          • and so can Izzy. They didn’t view it as a desperate need, though I would have. We won’t get a chance to land a playmaking DT in the draft again in the near future.

          • Shady

            I think Emery would have pounced if Donald had still been available. No need to reach for a need if you have the opportunity to select a difference maker. Obviously we’ll follow closely the careers of Ha-Ha, Pryor and the others who were still available at 14.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            In fairness to Phil, Donald went off the board on the previous pick – it’s not like he passed up the top tackle.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Well… tell them. A DT would have not played on 3rd down. There is a clear need for a big bodied DT, also. For run stopping purposes. Stop the run while playing nickel with Allen-Ratliff-X-Houston. You can get one of those in the second or third day.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            Ellis would be nice. 6’1 and he’s 50lbs heavier than Donald. I’m tired of the sexy sleek D-lines of Lovie’s era, it’s time we owned the middle of the field again. Fuck speed. If you own the line then you’re always in with a chance. Ratliff and Ellis inside. Let the Cracker tie the cattle for now.

            But Lamarcus Joyner at some point please. There is no excuse for a Conte/Jennings at FS come week one. That’s a negatory.

        • el_caney

          Buchanon is gone to Arizona…

        • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

          I think you’re right. Nobody said there was a great safety in the draft this year. Fuller is an exciting player, cornerbacks cost more than safeties and as we’re likely picking in the 30s next year, we won’t be able to grab that top corner then … but we could bag a decent safety. Lamarcus Joyner could be there in the third. Ladler in the 4th … this draft has only started and we got ourselves a baller to replace The Nut.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

        I’m guessing he goes 3T in round 2 and has his eye on one of the lesser-touted safeties in the 3rd or fourth.

    • beninnorcal

      I’m not crying, Barb, I was just really set on a tackle and bummed he got picked right before. I think he (Fuller) looks solid but it was also hard watching Pryor go a few picks later.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        The Dt would not have played on 3rd down. No Thanks.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

          3rd and what?

  • From National Football Post

    Fuller is a fourth-year senior and a three-and-a-half-year starter
    for the Hokies. He has also been a valuable special teams’ player for
    them throughout his career. This year, Fuller played well the first half
    of the season before an injury forced him to miss four games and part
    of a fifth. It is unclear whether he will play in their Bowl game.

    As a player, Fuller has all the tools necessary to play at the next
    level. He has good size (6’0 – 194), has speed (4.47 est), and is very
    quick, sudden, and athletic. In their defense, he lines up on the short
    side of the field and is used in press, off, and zone coverages. He is
    an extremely aware player and knows exactly what is going on around him.
    There are many corners who sit back and don’t aggressively play the
    run. That is not the case with Fuller. He reacts very quickly and comes
    up strong. He can be a good tackler but needs to wrap better.

    In coverage, he shows a good jam and has good mirror skills. He has the
    speed to cover deep routes and the quickness to stay with receivers
    through moves. In off and zone he is very aware and will help out when
    free. He has excellent ball reactions and is very quick in transition.

    I like the way Fuller plays the game. He is tough, instinctive, and
    productive. He has the physical tools to play the game at a high level
    in the NFL and, assuming he checks out medically, should be drafted
    high.

    • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

      A 3 year starter means all your questions are answered. Emery knows what this guy is about.

      There aren’t many top corners over 6′, and Peanut is breaking down and can’t keep covering Megatron. Here is the guy groomed to replace him.

      As I write this the Packers are on the clock and Dix is still there. They may take him.

      Do I think Bucannon will be there in the 2nd round? I don’t. But Tuitt or even Hageman might, or Louis Dix. When Jacksonville pulled a Ponder, I knew we might catch a break.

      I had the right idea in Bucannon, just the wrong guy. Hats off to Barb who did the calculus and decided you get the corner in Rnd 1 and come back for safeties later. You were right.

      • tobijohn

        You called it

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I had the best S or the 2nd CB from a month ago. It’s obvious they didn’t have any S as a 14 pick type player on their draft board.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

          We could have traded down and got ourselves a top safety and an extra second rounder.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            That’s wishful thinking. I don’t remember the teams, but one of them went from 27 to 20 and paid an extra 3rd rounder. That’s 7 positions for a 3rd round. No thanks. Plus we have no needs on O and our needs on D are quality related not depth ones. We need impact players…Emery already worked the FA for depth. It’s fine having more picks, but I’d rather sign clear cut starters. Emery knows his shit.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            Interested to see what his plan is at safety to say the least ….

  • Bender McLugh

    Love the Fuller pick

  • Willie

    Sad. Depressed.

    • Shady

      How’s the fam my maings?

      • Willie

        Things are good. Everyone chilling. Watching plenty Yo Gabba Gabba.

        Even if you don’t have kids I highly recommend it.

        Dix to GB. Fuck my life.

        • Shady

          Haha good to hear, I’ll have to check it out sometime.

          • Willie

            You guys on some PS4 action now? I miss video games.

          • Shady

            Yeah maings, MB can tell you all about getting worked in Ghosts.

  • Shady

    Emery press conference:

    -Coaches at Halas Hall all loved him
    -Emery knew from first seeing him that he was the kind of player the Bears wanted
    -Great person to rep the Bears
    -“This is a sss-corner” hmmmm Freudian slip?
    – Georgia Tech tape impressed Emery the most, kept “crashing the mesh point” impressive effort..
    -Expected to contribute this year, right away, future starter.
    -Had 3 players on the board when Bears picked at 14. Sounds like maybe they would have taken Donald had he not gone to Stl.

    • I think a few of us talked about Fuller before, so it’s not really a surprise (considering Emery’s last two picks, this is vanilla).

      Fuller might play FS/CB/Nickle with an eye for replacing Peanut next year.
      He can also contribute on specials right a way.

      I’m lukewarm on the pick. Would have been more excited if we drafted Pryor, but we’ll see what Emery does with the rest of the draft. He could trade up and take Dix, and everyone would be happy.

  • I like Fuller. He’s a good player who will be the eventual replacement for Tillman (and likely start at nickel right now). Good tackler and stout against the run-that’s big for a nickelback.

    I just worry they won’t have a good S fall to them in round 2 now.

    • You think Buccannon and Ward will be gone by our 2nd rounder? I feel an Emery trade up if they’re withing striking distance, a la Alshon

      • I think Ward has a chance of falling to them in round 2 (which I would LOVE, he’s my favorite S in the draft, though injuries worry me). We’ll see.

        • el_caney

          I hope tomorrow Bears Pick Bailey or move to DT for Anthony Johnson. Surely Hageman and Tuitt will be gone before 51

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      We won’t know who the good safeties are for a year or so though. Maybe it’s that Ladler guy in the fourth and he turns out to be Gary Fencik. They’ve already identified the value safety in the draft and they didn’t panic. That’s all I got.

  • BearFanInDE

    Here’s more on him and some metrics/analysis…

    Holy moley. That PD rate essentially means that Fuller got his hands to defense a pass one out of every three targets. He was only burned 24 percent of the time, which is the best that Greg Peshek has charted from the top 10 corners he’s charted. That’s unbelievable.

    http://www.bigblueview.com/2014/3/12/5412694/2014-nfl-draft-prospect-kyle-fuller-cb-virginia-tech-scouting-report-new-york-giants

  • Another key thing about Fuller is he was viewed as most versatile CB of rd 1 guys. Can do man or zone pretty well. Fits versatile D.

    • He’s a good CB. I like him better than Dennard or Roby, and only slightly less than Gilbert (due to Gilbert’s return ability).

      But man, Pryor back there would have been nice. But the Bears’ trend of undervaluing S continues even without Angelo and Lovie.

      • I actually think Bucannon and Ward are top 2 S in the draft. Long have.

        I just worry they won’t get either of them and will end up on the outside looking in.

        • Cowboys draft right before us in the 2nd I think. They really want a S. Would have to jump them.

          • DAL, BAL, DET, STL there are a bunch of teams in rd 2 who could go S before CHI.

          • if they miss on one of those 2 S, I’d be happy with Sutton rd 2 and then McGill for S rd 3. McGill wouldn’t be a classic position switch because he was an All-American JuCo FS before switching to CB at Utah.

          • el_caney

            Agree but Don´t write louder….MB really pisses up proyects.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      He looks and plays like a safety. Sorry MB, jus’ sayin’….

  • How frustrating was it when Donald went to STL at 13? One brief moment I thought they were gonna get him, which was beyond my wildest dreams entering the night.

    Fucking hell, how sick is that DL gonna be?

    • That deflated me. See handle.

    • Big Mike

      People said the same thing about suh and Farley

      • yeah, but this team already has a stud and a lot of other solid guys too.

  • Shady

    Dix to the Pack. uhhhhhh

    • MBs going to lose his mind lol

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        I was thinking the same thing

    • Big Mike

      Good pick for them. Not surprised Pryor went first. 21st pick value, not 14th. Probably couldn’t trade back.

  • Big Mike

    Blah… Where does he play next year? So close to getting Donald… Thought we’d take Pryor. In Emery we trust… I guess. Felt the same way after last year’s pick, except this year he’s 1 and 1 not 0 for 1. So less anger and %}%}%{€{£{¥

    • he’s the starting nickel next year and takes over for Tillman in 2015

      • Big Mike

        I just learned he could play nickel. Saw the video vs Bama that you posted. I like the pick. Thanks for insight

        • Shady

          I appreciate your tempered enthusiasm this year Mike, last year was a bit rough for you.

          • Big Mike

            Thanks for remembering. Yes it was. I learned a big lesson. We don’t have the insight the coaches do. What I saw from the tape was a very raw project. I had 4-5 OL guys rated higher. Coupled with the Shea pick. I was furious (and I had been drinking). Glad to see you on the board.

        • he’s the best run-defending CB in the draft. I’ve long thought that-if they go CB rd 1-Fuller would be the guy. I just didn’t think they’d go CB rd 1.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

        Any corner we drafted was going to start at nickel. We’ll get 3 starters from our first three picks no doubt.

  • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

    Packers suck some Dix.

  • I got a jacket just like Dix. Straight pimp’n

  • Film of Fuller against Bama. Pretty damn good game against a team chalk full of future NFLers

    http://draftbreakdown.com/video/kyle-fuller-vs-alabama-2013/

    • Big Mike

      Changing opinion. Guy tackles well and he can play nickel

      • Fuller can end up being the top Cb of this class, I really believe it.
        The problem is, Pryor can be the best S, and Donald the best DT, positions we are hurting in.

        • Big Mike

          Didn’t see how good he played nickel. Tackles great. Always liked him as a Tillman replacement. Worried about safety

  • I was never sold on Dix. I guess a lot of other teams weren’t either. Pack draft history on D is not particularly sterling. They jumped us for Burnett, after all.

  • We can always put Fuller and Peanut on the outside, and Jennings at nickle too. Jennings was originally supposed to be a nickle CB and is excellent in there.

  • Shady

    Manziel to Factory of Sadness.

    • Swaaag

      • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

        JOHNNY to the FACTORY! Woooooo hoooo!!!!!

    • Browns have a decent Oline too. Should help him with his happy feet.

      • he lands in a perfect situation for a young QB, IMO. Good D, good OL, good pass weapons.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      They hit it out of the park didn’t they? A lot of people had Manziel to the Browns … but not at 24. Johnny Football + Gilbert for a third round pick.

  • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

    Fuller can play free safety, guys. And if you line him up side by side with Dix and say “pick one” having never seen them play, Fuller is more of a specimen.

    • you don’t take a guy in rd 1 and move him to a position he’s never played before.

      He’s nickelback in 2014, starting outside in 2015.

      • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

        I wish I could side bet you on that.

      • Big Mike

        Given the amt of passing in the NFC north and nfl in general he is what trestman referred to as a situational starter.

        • I consider 12 starters on O. 4 DL, 3 LB, 3 CB, 2 S.

          You could really up that to 6 DL too. 14 guys will play a lot on D.

          On O it’s QB, RB (sometimes 2), FB, TE (sometimes 2), 3 WR, 5 OL.

          The whole “11 starters” idea is highly antiquated in the NFL.

          • Big Mike

            So we agree… Loving the pick. Just surprised. Depth at CB led me to believe they’d draft CB later. Since they did. It have to assume they saw either a run or a drop off at CB.

          • the position surprises me. The player does not.

            Exact opposite of 2012/2013

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I see Tillman in the nickel also. One on one against those TE that kill the Bears.

        • SC Dave

          Interesting idea. Since Peanut is getting up there, I can see a swap with Fuller somewhere during the season to preserve Peanut for the playoffs.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

        But he does play like a safety. If I didn’t know whose tape it was I would have guessed safety.

    • Shady

      Yeah, physically he’s right there with Ha-Ha and Pryor. Actually has the most length of the group.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      He will not play FS.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    love that Rex Ryan loved Dix so much, but selected Pryor. I don’t know either of those players…I just find it funny.

  • Big Mike

    Love Manziel to the Browns. Good pick for them

    • Shady

      Not really a fan of Johnny Football, but I always pull for the Browns when they’re not playing the Bears.

      • Big Mike

        They got the Gilbert and the 2nd QB off the board. Did not think Jed be there for them. Also extra happy that the draft broke this way for tHe bears. Other than Donald, fuller must have been their highest rated guy. Probably couldn’t trade back.

  • Usually when a QB gets drafted in the 20s, it’s to a better team. Manziel ended up in Cle. Karma.

    • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

      Browns got Gilbert and JOHNNY F. and they have a high 2nd rnd’er and are up again in 10 picks.

      Pretty good for a rookie GM. If he keeps it up, he might get to fuck Jennifer Garner.

      • Calling Carlos Hyde for them in round 2. Hometown connection w/ OSU, they need a RB.

      • SC Dave

        Didn’t they get a first rounder next year too?

      • Trac

        Yup, Haslam truly is going to be another feather in the NFL’s cap,

  • Are they doing the 2nd round tonight?

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    At least we didn’t draft Dee Ford.

  • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

    The Walrus took Dee Ford!

    Whoa!

  • Trac
    • Big Mike

      Packers could drafts cow chip and they’d be all over it

  • SC Dave

    Goddamn Giants fucked me up….

  • Cormonster

    Charles Woodson played his last two years in GB as a hybrid corner / nickel / safety. The defense seemed to revolve around his skill set to a certain extent. He played the run well, was great blitzing off the edge, but could still man or zone cover.
    According to some of those scouting reports, Fuller was good at TFL and sacks earlier in his career. Maybe the Bears use him in a similar role, or rotate CB’s to the nickel spot based on opponent and matchups. Three good corners with different skill sets allow a coordinator a lot more options. I’m cool with the pick.

    • BerwynBomber

      If he’s half the player Woodson was we not only drafted Tillman’s long-term replacement but a guy who will earn a couple of Pro Bowl trips.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Bucannon to the Cards

  • There goes Bucannon. The Cards look at him as a SS like I do. Honey Badger and Buccanon back there. That D is getting scary.

    • BerwynBomber

      Is Ward supposed to last till Rd. 2?

      • Yes, but he’s supposed to go early in round 2, like 6 picks or so before us, though some teams might get scared by his size and injuries.

        Buccanon is more pro-typical and a better fit in our scheme, IMO

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          We don’t have a scheme and we need more of a FS type. That being said Bucannon was the type of player I bet Emery wanted. Big, fast, physical.

          • We don’t play a 3-4, that’s for sure, so that definitely changes what kind of safeties we draft. For example, our safeties really don’t have to cover man to man or blitz much. Someone like Ward is better suited for that then Buccanon, but yeah, I agree. I think Emery had his eye on Bucannon. He’s the Emery type.

          • Big Mike

            You may have called the draft right, but this comment is way off the mark.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      These big DBs don’t fall much… that NFC West eats them like candy. Hah.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      They were already scary. I think they’re the most under-rated defense in the NFL. They closed down the top teams.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    we are BLEEDING at S….guys. Hahahhahahahah.

  • Big Mike

    Just realized that 4th pre season game now has some interest. Manziel probably plays

    • why would he play? Starters rarely do 4th game

      • Big Mike

        I don’t think he’s the starter

        • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

          Hoyer has to start.

          • Big Mike

            So Manziel plays game 4 in the preseason. Which gives that meaningless turd on the landscape of a game some value.

      • EnderWiggin

        I could make the case that both you and BigM are right. He could be the starter and he could get a quarter or two of playing time (in game 4) just for reps sake.

        • Big Mike

          Just something to keep an eye on to make that last preseason weekend interesting.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Ward to the 49ers

  • And now Jimmie Ward gone. I always kinda thought 3-4 S could go rd 1, just hoped they wouldn’t. DT round 2.

    • Shady

      Lots of DL talent left for sure.

      • Hageman, Tuitt, Sutton. I’d be ECSTATIC with any of those in rd 2, hope one falls there.

        Also would be good with Jernigan. Not ecstatic, but he’s a primo run stuffer, which has value in rd 2 IMO.

        • Shady

          Nix and Ealy also in the mix.

          • I said Jernigan. Forgot Nix, he’d be great at 51. I see Ealy as DE, not DT, but yeah.

            But I”ll guess 1-2 DL guys go last 2 picks rd 1 here.

    • NewBearInTown

      There’s a steep dropoff at safety now. Have to wonder if Emery wanted any of the safeties in this class or if he was always looking elsewhere.

      • I could see a rd 3-4 guy as a developmental prospect. Especially at FS, so somebody like McGill, Huff, or Brooks. Conte/Jennings both expiring contracts.

        • NewBearInTown

          Fine, but either Emery liked Fuller better or he didn’t see his starting safety in the draft this year. I think we’ll pick up another free agent before the season starts. A journeyman that gets cut from another team for cap space – or maybe someone who loses his job to a new draft pick.
          Either way, we still need more help in the secondary.

          • Bears have shown serious interest in both McGill and Huff supposedly. HUff is really athletic and could simply be a guy Emery really likes.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            He was the guy on Emery’s board right after Donald. Simple as. Assuming Phil was into under-sized tackles that is.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    we are BLEEDING at S big time….guys. Hhahahhahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaahahha.

    • Big Mike

      Not funny

  • NewBearInTown

    One bright spot. There are a lot of quarterbacks left in this draft. We could see a surprise from Emery drafting Garrapolo or even Bridgewater in 2 at the rate this is going.

    • that’s a bright spot? Drafting a guy who has zero chance of starting for at least 3 years in round 2? No thanks.

      • NewBearInTown

        Drafting a guy who plays like McCown the next time Cutler gets hurt, and then trading him for something like two second rounders?
        Yeah, that’s a bright spot.

    • I think there’s going to be a run on QB pretty soon, but for sure in early 2nd.
      QB, RB, TE and project OTs/OGs tend to fly early and often in the 2nd.

      • yeah, all the QB needy teams are at top of round 2.

        • Big Mike

          Pushing more talent our way

          • whole ton of DL talent still on the board. Hoping some of that falls to them in round 2.

  • NewBearInTown

    Would be exciting to see the Bears trade up to 32 here and take a DT like Tuitt or Hagemon. Not sure it will happen, but would definitely wake us all up.

    • NewBearInTown

      Whoa, Vikings made the move.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    So… I guess I should change my initial vision on the draft. No room for S in round 2…the logic says. Strange stuff… the S class was supposed to be weak , but 4 where drafted in the first round. It must be a record. That makes it DT or WR/TE time in the 2nd round. I’ll sit with my initial vision, though. Safety in the 2nd it stays.

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      The run will be on DT now pal. And we pick 18. Our guys won’t be there and I’m pretty sure you know that now

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        And wht fucking sense does it make forWR, TE when we need safeties and motherfucking DTs

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Football is a chess game.

          • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

            Romania is a shit hole.

            BOOM

            Don’t worry, Johnny, the Russian Air Force has your back!

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Romania is such a shit hole that people don’t believe bullshit like ‘we went to the moon, just watch this video’ type of crap. I got to say I really like the motto ‘Romania is a shit hole’. This is an oooooold selling point from back in the day…. ‘hey guys Afrika is a shit hole, why don’t you come aboard’.

            Don’t worry, Johnny, the US Air Force has your back! No way you can steal a plane and crash it into the most important building in the universe. Just watch this video. Oh… no video ? Was it really a plane ?

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I hope there will be a run on DT, mate. I’m banking on a S in the 2nd round so that actually helps, you see ?

        • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

          So you’ll accept a 2nd round reach at safety but not a first rounder. Got it. The remaining safeties are considered an enormous drop off. Why would you want that in 2?

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Well, of course, it can’t be a massive reach. It’s okay if it’s a so called 3rd rounder with room for improvement. What does reaching mean ? It’s all about their draft board, nothing else.Who considers the remaining safeties as an enormous drop off ? The ones that said there are no 1st round grade value S in this draft ? They drafted 4… i think that’s a record, man. So..who the fuck knows ? For me they are all names, I don’t know them cause I don’t watch that amateur sport. But speaking in general… it’s a big fucking difference reaching at 14 as opposed to 52. Are you kidding me ?

        • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

          No my Barbarian friend, we can’t have Paea in there at 3T. No can do. Negatory. Danger Will Robinson. No.

          Second round must be about moving up for a Tuitt, or staying put for Sutton/Ellis. Sutton is a project, he needs to lose weight, he was a lot lighter when he was productive. Ellis is a sweet big old load, but I’m keeping my boner for Tuitt. Better than Tommie Harris I’m sure of it. Good kid, only 20 years old – he’ll grow into a man and then it’s ON.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Again with this 3T Lovie withdrawal !? The Bears don’t need a 3T type. I’d rather have a big bodied DT so you can stop the run on 1st down, then slide Houston inside in a nickel formation with our new slick 1st round CB on the field. I want the maximum number of snaps for our ‘go get me sacks unit’… Allen-Ratliff-Houston-Young—–Bostic-Briggs——Jennings-Tillman-Fuller—-Mundy-X. You should to…. the more you see this unit in the more we win (that’s ban english I suppose).

  • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

    I’m laughing right now because you are all high if you think now that ALL of the safety’s are gone if teams will now simply choose not to pick the DTs now before our pick.
    He fucked up and that is simply the case

    • I don’t think he fucked up. He just didn’t like the S. And/or has a sleeper one he really likes.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        Marquestion Huff

        • I think that could very well be it. He fits the Emery profile (highly athletic), they have shown a lot of interest in him.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

          I think I read they visited with Huff.

    • Shady

      I know there won’t be any consolation for you and MB on this but it’s still wayyy too early to tell at this point. We. Shall. See.

  • TheBigCheesy

    There goes the last safety. HaHa!!!

    • How did Burnett work out for you guys?

      • TheBigCheesy

        Let me know how MD Jennings works out.

        oh wait…..I already know

        • He’ll be great, in specials.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          MD Jennings will be a beast defending your TE.

          ah wait… you don’t have one.

          • TheBigCheesy

            at least we have a quarterback!

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            not your best material. That was a reach that I’d expect from greenbayguy or mrARodgers because they are 14.

          • TheBigCheesy

            guilty as charged. I even felt shame typing it.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Man you are low level, basic IQ, pay me 100 cents for a dollar type of dude, aren’t you ? Playing the king’s role with another man’s dick. You come here to talk about Ss, talk about Ss… don’t wet your vagina with your posh QB the instant you realize that’s all you have.

          • TheBigCheesy

            “Playing the king’s role with another man’s dick??” Is that a quote from somewhere or something?

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            But our canon-armed QB has Alshon and Brandon …

    • Shady

      I hear HaHa is just SoSo.

      • He is. MB liked him. I saw just a guy. Only time will tell.

      • SC Dave

        Playing at Alabama seems to cause pundits to overrate a player, but it seems G.B. did okay with Lacy.

  • Shady

    What time does round 2 start tomorrow?

  • Shady

    Vikings draft Teddy Bridgewater out of nowhere.

  • Big Mike

    Oh my Bridgewater to Vikings

  • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

    Pats and Easley?

    #neversawitcoming

    • Easly blew like both knees. It’s definitely a high risk/reward move. He only weighs like 288 too, but they’re already planning on trying to get Peyton, and are willing to take the gamble.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

        They’ll use him up in two years and then he gets cut.

  • 6 great DL options still left: Hageman, Tuitt, Nix, Jernigan, Sutton, Ealy. Gotta think 1 of those 6 falls to 51.

    Wonder if Phil trades up for Hageman.

    • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

      I think Trac posted that Hageman failed a dope test or something. If not the book on him is lazy, and Emery hates lazy.

    • Hageman, Tuitt or Nix, in that order.
      The rest I would feel exactly like the Fuller pick. Meh.
      Sutton I may have to investigate more though.

      Vereen and Sunseri might be options at S in the 2nd.

      • I have long LOVED Sutton as a rd 2 prospect. 2012 Sutton every bit as good as 2013 Donald IMO

        • and Jernigan is arguably best run-stuffer in draft, which is solid rd 2 value IMO

      • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

        Sutton is supposed to be more Donald-esque … but he got a lot heavier and wasn’t the same player.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      I’d want his balls in a sandwich if he did. Doesn’t exactly jump out at you as the guy you want to trade up for. If we sit pretty then we get one of those guys you mentioned. Then Phil produces your starting free safety for the Chicago Bears in round three (or four?)…. Kenneth Ladler .. .right GP?.

  • Sactowns#1

    Well Nix is still on the board so I’ll be keeping my fingers crossed tomorrow.

    Did anyone predict Kyle Fuller for the contest?

  • “At least it’s not an example of a player Emery wants to teach a new
    position at the NFL level. Wisely, Emery immediately ruled out
    converting Fuller to a safety — an idea he floated last week about
    cornerbacks with Fuller’s size and skills.

    “He is a corner,” Emery said as a football city sighed with relief…

    Mike Mayock, one of the most respected judges of talent for NFL Network,
    rated Fuller the top cornerback in the draft. Other evaluators agreed,
    forming such a consensus on Fuller that nobody shrieked when NFL
    Commissioner Roger Goodell announced his name….

    Emery sounded impressed by the versatility Fuller showed in covering
    North Carolina tight end Eric Ebron, whom the Lions picked 10th, as
    capably as he defended quicker receivers in the slot.

    “We expect him to contribute his first year right away,” Emery said.”

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-bears-haugh-nfl-draft-spt-0509-20140509,0,2506173.column

    • CB going to S to me screams McGill in round 3. That could be a solid pick IMO. He has some experience at S too (All-American JuCo FS before switching to CB at Utah).

      But if I had to guess right now I’d say best DT in rd 2 and Marqueston Huff rd 3. Then again, I thought Pryor rd 1, so what do I know?

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Well Pryor in rd 1 (or their best rated S) was an option no doubt. He either wasn’t impressed with the S class at 14 or really,really liked the CB. The key -at the end of the day- is drafting Secondary. The Bears now lack only a S on the 3rd down unit/nickel unit. They also can go man on man with Tillman against Jimmy Graham, Witten, Gronkowski and Vernon Davis if they chose so. PS: The Bears play 9 games against teams that use spread offense as their basic offense this year. The kid is going to play… a lot.

        • they still need one more rotational DT.

          and yes, Fuller will definitely play a bunch.

        • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

          Pls explain how your new hybrid defense has us swapping out fucking safeties like they are SAM linebackers. The safeties stay in the game on sub packages and the Sam comes out for the nickel.
          Our safeties are mundy, conte, Jennings, some scrub from Dallas, Steltz and possibly Anthony Walters, the biggest waste of a roster spot since josh bullocks.

          How are we missing one safety? We don’t have any starting quality safeties on the roster.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      no FS ? no shit !

      • Because of Fuller’s versatilty and size (Dix is only an inch taller and 10 pounds heavier, though Fuller is just as long), and the Bear’s inclination for converting CBs into safeties, many in the media almost assumed he’d be moved to FS.

        In obvious passing downs, Fuller just might see some time there, though most likely not.

  • Biggsy…

    Fuller excelled covering the slot and also played well on the outside
    for the Hokies and that means he can take coverage responsibilities
    that often fall to the safety. Emery also talked about the Hokies using
    him as an inverted safety in their eight-man front and the productivity
    Fuller had as a blitzer and making plays in the backfield, a sign of his
    toughness. Emery saw him in a game against Georgia Tech blitzing
    through the A-gap against an option running attack.

    “I knew that day that is the type of player I wanted to represent the
    Bears,” Emery said. “This is a player with length, skill, athleticism,
    versatility, productivity and beyond that, and the better part, he is
    even a great person.”

    Emery went on to call him “versatile, tough, hard-nosed.” Fuller is
    instantly the leading candidate to be the nickel back but that doesn’t
    necessarily mean he will be in the slot only. Emery talked about
    matchups and how the ability to use Fuller against a wide variety of
    bigger targets meant defensive coordinator Mel Tucker could move him all
    over the field. All defenses are leaning heavily on their nickel
    cornerback. Isaiah Frey was on the field for 48.7 percent of the
    defensive snaps last season in that role….

    One NFL source said the Bears are looking to add at least two additional draft picks….

    “This is a player that is universally loved in our building,” Emery said.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-bears-biggs-nfl-draft-spt-0509-20140509,0,6770613.story

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      That 48.7 percent will go up this year if Emery gets his plan executed.

    • “Fuller embodies what Emery and defensive coordinator Mel Tucker covet in
      the players the club looks to add to the defense moving forward. He’s
      versatile, athletic and tough. He has played nickel/whip linebacker at
      Virginia Tech as well as corner.

      Interestingly, Bears special-teams coordinator Joe DeCamillis rated
      Fuller as the best special-teams player in the draft. So he’ll
      contribute there, too, this season.”

      http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4691964/kyle-fullers-the-future-but-hell-play-now

    • Trac

      So this the Emery’s motus operendi. He see a player at some point, likes him and locks onto him and puts the blinders on. Is this how it’s done GM’s?

      • SC Dave

        Sounds familiar, eh?

        • Trac

          He’s a pedigree snob as well. Fuller was not an underclassmen either which I think Phil puts stock in.

          • Big Mike

            Let’s not call it snobbery.. Let’s just say he’s got a preference for that. I don’t mind it in the first round. Lots of mocks had Fuller as the best CB. Dennard dropped to like 24. Gilbert went at 8, but he’s more a man coverage guy.

          • Trac

            No, I think snobbery is apropos. It is what it is.

          • Big Mike

            So be it. It’s just another variable and one I don’t hate in the first round.

  • el_caney

    It seems Emery miscalculated the safety position was more “unsafe” till the end of the first round…

  • I’m with Luffwaffle (what’s that sound over head…). I looked over all the FS/SS options in the 2nd, hoping for a gem, but they’re all garbage in that round. A mush of converted LBs, CBs, players with suspect length, character, instincts, tackling, etc etc. It’s like a sewer filter.

    We’re going to have to ride with Mundy/Conte unless the miraculous happens or we severely reach.

    The ONE prospect which kind caught my eye was Mo Alexander. Nice size/speed looks to be violent. Far from perfect, but need I remind you who our current starters are?

    Here’s his profile. Obviously, get him in the 4rth and beyond.

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/mo-alexander?id=2543677

    • Marqueston Huff. Round 3.

      • I prefer no CB/S hybrids, but beggars can’t be choosers.

        Draft Projection Rounds 4-5

        Bottom Line Fast, rangy, tough, loquacious defensive
        back who was pushed to play safety to fill a need in his senior season,
        and offers intriguing versatility on the back end. Projects ideally as a
        cornerback in the pros, where his explosiveness and physicality will
        appeal to a wide range of teams. Should contribute readily on special
        teams and has eventual starter potential.

        NFL.com

        • highly athletic, good cover skills, versatile. Fits the Emery profile. Also has the all-important pre-draft meetings.

          • Yeah, I’m not saying Emery won’t draft him, but he doesn’t exactly pique my interest. Conte was a converted CB.

            I really would prefer a 6’2is 210is safety who is quick twitch, punishing, but unpolished. Other than maybe Mo Alexander, I don’t see many who fit that bill.

          • this is a guy who converted from CB to S in college though, and had his best college season at S.

            That’s different than drafting a CB and hoping he can play S. Why I like Huff or McGill-they’ve both proven they can play S at a high level.

          • Conte converted to S in his senior yr too, I think.
            I’m sure some CBs can convert successfully, but I just want a S who played S for 3 years+. But like I said, not many options left at the bottom of the barel. Even the guy I like was a converted LB.

      • el_caney
  • DTs vs. S available right now. Pretty big disparity there IMO

    http://draftbreakdown.com/video/kyle-fuller-vs-alabama-2013/

  • “Names to consider in the second and third rounds include: Minnesota’s Ra’Shede Hageman, Notre Dame’s Louis Nix, Florida State’s Timmy Jernigan, Notre Dame’s Stephon Tuitt, Penn State’s DaQuan Jones, LSU’s Ego Ferguson, Arizona State’s Will Sutton and Princeton’s Caraun Reid.

    The outlook appears to be more complicated at safety.

    After passing on Louisville’s Calvin Pryor (New York Jets, No. 18), Alabama’s Ha Ha Clinton-Dix (Green Bay Packers, No. 21), Washington State’s Deone Bucannon (Arizona Cardinals, No. 27) and Northern Illinois’ Jimmie Ward (San Francisco 49ers, No. 30) in favor of Virginia Tech cornerback Kyle Fuller with the 14th pick, the Bears will find slim pickings at safety on Friday.

    Names to monitor are: Florida State’s Terrence Brooks, Minnesota’s Brock Vereen, Wisconsin’s Dezmen Southward, Wyoming’s Marqueston Huff, and USC’s Dion Bailey.”

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4691976/bears-day-2-look-ahead

  • Aaron T. Starks

    No doubt in my mind Fuller is going to be our starting free safety Opening Day 2014.

    • Trac

      I guess the Bears could have gone in several directions. I really wasn’t expecting a CB though but I didn’t think FS was the right call with our first pick due to the fact that I didn’t think we’d get the right value at the 14 spot by drafting one. I’d like to know who the 6 players were that Phil had targeted.

      • Big Mike

        I was surprised at the CB pick as well. I’ve grown to like it. Fits with the versatility, athletic, high character, theme. Nickel, CB, FS potential. Plus exceptional special teamer. So the Bears get a guy who can compete to start in the Nickel (Maybe Isaiah Frey goes to FS) and can play special teams.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      If you are fixed on a CB at FS I’d rather bet on Frey than Fuller in that spot.

  • Big Mike

    My big question is not only who were the 6, but how many of them were gone when we picked? My best guess says not many of them were gone. Which sort of translates into Fuller being the guy they really wanted. Or.. no dance partners at 14.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      My only disappointment was that the Rams picked Donald at 13. Think about the tears when Emery would have drafted Fuller just the same. hah.

  • Big Mike

    Kyle Fuller, DB:
    Although Chicago is already set at cornerback for the short term,
    Fuller will likely come in as the Day 1 starter at the nickel corner
    spot. He should see plenty of time given the frequency the Bears operate
    out of sub packages.

    — Michael C. Wright

    Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, S:
    The Packers addressed their greatest need, and they did it with one of
    the top two safeties in the draft. Clinton-Dix can play both near the
    line of scrimmage and deep in coverage. It should help Morgan Burnett’s
    production, too. It would be hard to imagine the Packers would go
    another year without getting an interception from their safeties.

    — Rob Demovsky

    • Trac

      The silver lining on the Packers pick is that this was considered a weak FS class and even Pryor and DIx aren’t all that when compared to previous drafts.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I call ‘bullshit’. 4 S were drafted in the first round. That might be a record. So this is kind of the usual draft crap you have every year. I don’t trust what anybody says. Nobody knows shit.

        • Trac

          Call it what you want. The “draft experts” actually proclaimed that this year was weak at the FS position and that no 1st day talent was on the board. If these cats were so good then why did they fall so far? I stand by my comments.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Well… fuck those crappy ‘draft experts’ that said this was a weak draft at S with ‘no 1st day talent on the board’. THERE WERE 4 S DRAFTED IN THE 1ST ROUND. Call me crazy, but that’s as big of a fuck up as it gets. And you can’t just use their grades… the fucked up big time. A RECORD NUMBER OF S WERE DRAFTED !!! Sorry if I don’t trust those ‘experts my ass’.

          • Trac

            That is indicative of them being good? Meh.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            No. Is indicative of the ‘draft experts’ being crap. So the basis of your post is not a great starting point…. ‘this was considered a weak FS class when compared to previous drafts’.

  • Big Mike

    Top Talent Available per CBS Sports

    DEFENSIVE TACKLE
    1. Louis Nix, Notre Dame (6-2, 331)
    2. Timmy Jernigan, Florida State (6-2, 299)
    3. Stephon Tuitt, Notre Dame (6-6, 304)
    4. Ra’Shede Hageman, Minnesota (6-6, 310)
    5. Da’Quan Jones, Penn State (6-4, 322)

    FREE SAFETY
    1. Terrence Brooks, Florida State (5-11, 198)
    2. Marqueston Huff, Wyoming (5-11, 196)
    3. Dion Bailey, USC (6-0, 201)
    4. Ed Reynolds, Stanford (6-1, 207)
    5. Kenny Ladler, Vanderbilt (6-0, 207)

    STRONG SAFETY
    1. Brock Vereen, Minnesota (6-0, 199)
    2. Dezmen Southward, Wisconsin (6-0, 211)
    3. Craig Loston, LSU (6-1, 217)
    4. Vinnie Sunseri, Alabama (5-11, 210)
    5. Ahmad Dixon, Baylor (6-0, 212)

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      You can throw Sutton and Ellis in there, that’s 7 tackles – a fair few of which should be available at 51.

      BTW – just listening to Emery now. He said Fuller covered Ebron but failed to specify whether that was successfully covered or not. Which was it?

      • Ellis? In round 2?

      • Ososfan

        Yes he did a good job containing Ebron.

  • Trac

    This article pretty much called out CB as the position that our first pick needed to be. I’m learning and Phil is teaching. lol. Factoid: The Bears hadn’t drafted a CB in the first three rounds since drafting Tillman in the second round of the 2003 draft while the rest of the NFL has drafted 122 CB’s in the first 3 rounds during the last 10 years.

    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-05-07/sports/ct-biggs-bears-nfl-spt-0507-20140507_1_cornerback-brandon-hardin-draft-class

  • Big Mike

    BTW Conte=relieved. Bears fans =”not so much”

  • Big Mike
  • johnnywad

    Fuller’s a solid pick. Badly needed pick at the position and tall enough to cover big receivers. It will be interesting to see if he packs on muscle weight over the next year or so. I’m on board.

  • Trac

    Hmm. MB performed a disappearing act last night. What was her name pal? He he.

    • MB30SD

      Actually, it was a networking event downtown. .. then back up to meet the boy.

  • Artoo

    First morning at MB’s palace, I’m pretty sure he makes the same as Bill Gates, definitely a lot more muscular/do not make him mad(Hulk like)than anticipated, and his mood was ruined last night because of Phil Emery.

    So far, I think his new name needs to be Hulk or Smash. I’ll let you all know if I’m alive by the end of the week.

    • MB30SD

      Smh.

      Seems like a good kid. He’s trying to puss out of his first surf… not going to let him.

  • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

    Jacksonville really screwed the pooch.

    • IBNO

      Detroit, too. How many people look at Detroit and say, “You know what’s keeping them from being a contender? The best TE in a historically weak TE draft class”

      • Bender McLugh

        Made me very happy when I heard that pick for DET. lol

        • not me. That’s a very safe pick. Do you realize how stacked that offense is now?

          Megatron, BUsh/Bell in backfield, now Tate and Ebron too? And a damn good OL. We better hope Stafford keeps sucking, because he arguably has more to work with than Cutler does right now.

  • IBNO

    Wow, I didn’t realize they were doing the entire first round last night, so I missed all the sturm and drang. Haven’t looked to see who else was available when the Bears picked. I’m not pissed that they took Fuller–he could see the field this year, so that would be OK. But I was set on a safety. I was right about Donald being gone.

    Fuller looks like Peanut 2.0.

    If he plays like it, this was a good draft already.

    • MB30SD

      Every single safety in the draft was laid out on the table before phil.

      Every. Single. One.

      • IBNO

        Yeah, looking at it, I can’t figure it out. Fuller doesn’t grade out higher than the best 2 FSs available. And CB is not a “we need one right now” need like FS is. Right now, on opening day, there is NO FS on the roster. And with the run on FSs late in Round 1, there are NO starting-quality FSs left.

        I take that back. Pick the worst-ranked OG in the draft, and he’d be a better FS than Conte. So there are a couple hundred guys who could improve the FS position as it currently stands.

  • IBNO

    Oh, and the last guy named “Kyle” the Bears took in the first round is looking like a good pick. Anyone have any inside lines on top-tier Kyles for 2015?

  • MB30SD

    I was surprised and bummed we didn’t take one of all 4 fs available to us. And I hate that phil is giving conte another shot… that I really don’t get. And now after a surgery. Makes zero sense to me. Zero. Say what you want about this safety draft class, but ALL of those 4 are years better than conte and not one has played a single down of nfl football yet. Smmfh.

    that aid, I didn’t freak out, I like the fuller pick for what it is. We got, by all accounts, the best cb in the draft and the aire apparent to the nut.

    Phil obviously had him as our #1 guy… but but threw out need to get him. Kinda boggles the mind because all 4 fs went in Rd 1 and by all accounts there’s plenty of cbs left today and tomorrow.

    Again, like who we picked, don’t like that we don’t have any options for a day 1 starting fs now. Phil better get us a bad ass dt and then pull a kam chancellor and get us a freaking monster sleeper fs somewhere.

    you guys should have seen me though… holding my breath on the walk up to the podium… waiting for the first syllables of deon… or clinto… or calv… only to hear Kyle fuller.

    (Silence, exhale, wwwttttfffffffff?!?!?!)

    • IBNO

      I’m on board with you, MB. Except I’d say that Gilbert was the best CB in the draft–which is why he went 6 picks earlier.

      • MB30SD

        I contend that he was picked earlier ONLY because of his return ability. By all accounts, fuller is the better corner.

      • Big Mike

        And Fuller is more of a man guy. Emery was completely impressed with Fuller’s football IQ/Instinct. Which is critical in the zone coverage the Bears play.

    • IBNO

      And even Bucannon is gone, so there goes my hope for a Round 2 FS starter. Southward (from Wisconsin) could be a late-round steal, but he’s raw, and not a guy who can plug in and go at FS.

  • IBNO

    Wow, so Emery passed on Pryor, Dix, and Dennard.

    Color me surprised. Given that Pryor has higher grades than Fuller, and FS is a position of immediate need, Emery must have really liked Fuller. I don’t think Fuller has the frame to be a FS-conversion, either (not that converting a CB is a good idea for an immediate need… see, Conte, Chris and Hardin, Brandon as examples).

    • MB30SD

      And buchannon and ward.

    • some had Fuller higher rated than any of those guys. Some had him behind all those guys. They were all in the same range when you average it together.

      Obviously Phil had Fuller higher.

  • Artoo

    I only have one thought about this draft choice.

    If Fuller turns out to be a bust or average, Phil Emery will be reminded twice a year that he passed on Ha Ha.

    • IBNO

      I fell off the Ha Ha wagon a few weeks ago. I think he might’ve been overrated because the system he was in, with the defense surrounding him. I get the feeling he’ll have an A.J. Hawk experience in Green Bay–a solid starter, but nothing to cry in your beer about not having him on your team.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I don’t know either of these players, but the fact the Jets drafted Pryor is strange for me. This Ha Ha DIx seems like the perfect fit for Rex Ryan’s system. If you think at the ideal S for Rex that’s Ha Ha. He picked another one and I trust Ryan more than anybody when you talk about drafting Defense.

      • Big Mike

        I downgrade guys a bit that play on dominant teams. There is a skew to it. I don’t discount them out right, but in this case, I liked Pryor. But clearly Emery is looking at a bigger picture and drafted who he thought was the best guy, not the guy that fits the biggest need.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Those are 2 thoughts. One, Fuller has to be normal quality and two, Ha Ha must become a beast. If Bortless becomes a franchise GM think about what Houston fans will say about their number 1 pick. I want my GM sacked right now if he thinks like this. Who gives a fuck ? Draft your guy and I’ll tell you what… he can even become a bust as long as you win the division, conference or league every year.

    • Big Mike

      Same can be said about every pick. Took this, passed on that. Part of the job description.

  • peanutgallery

    Two words. Shea Mcclellin.
    This pick has that “Emery has left the reservation” feel to it. Yeah the same one I had after Shea and Kyle Long. With Kyle Long you could at least comfort yourself with the fact it was Howie’s son. I watched Fuller’s highlights on Youtube. I don’t know fellas, looks pretty pedestrian to me. Certainly nothing like Calvin Pryor’s would seems like a headhunter. Emery completed failed with the Shea pick… especially considering Chandler Jones (the by the book pick) went two picks later. Yeah I hope he works out at OLB but come on. Kyle Long was a monster hit. A homerun by any standard. So I guess you can say Emery is batting .500 which is great but I all I can say is something doesn’t feel right on this pick.
    Go Bears.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      2 words. Alshon JefferieS. Emery fucked up with the McClellin pick, but hit BIG time with Alshon. He is more then excused for his fail. You must stop the McClellin stuff now. If healthy Fuller has the feel of a Bear starter level pick at CB. PS: The Jets took Pryor…these are the ones that picked Hill instead of Jeffery. How about that !?

      • IBNO

        That’s a good point (Hill instead of Jeffery). BUT even a bad choice doesn’t mean they can’t make the right choice another time.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Use that same principle Emery’s way, right ?

    • Big Mike

      Fuller’s at worst one of the top 3 CBs in the draft. Some had him on top. He’s the best fit / tillman style corner available. He’s a top special team guy, high character, family has been through it before with two brothers in the NFL, he can be mentored by two pro-bowl guys on defense. It’s a sweet pick.

  • IBNO

    Here’s something to think about–I know Peanut has repeatedly said he didn’t want to switch to FS, but with the Conte situation and the Bears obviously targeting CB above Safety, is it possible Peanut’s been singing the public tune Emery wanted him to, with every intention of making the switch?

    Peanut to FS makes so much more sense now. And, likely, Peanut would be a better FS than any of the remaining guys in the draft.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      I’d rather bank my money on Tillman at the slot, middle of the field position. Cover one on one those big time TE the Bears will face all year long. You need the leader of the D in the middle of the field, plus, more plays he defends more chances for those juicy ‘peanut punches’.

    • Bender McLugh

      Peanut is the best cover CB Bears have though. Throw a rook against Calvin et al? Not sure…..not saying you are wrong though.

    • Fuller will line up as a slot CB who does a lot of different things. I think we’ll see him manned up on TEs a lot this year.

  • Bender McLugh

    So are the Rams front 4 going to be as badass as they are predicting? And yeah, who cares about the Rams really…..

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      I don’t like it… four 1 st rounders is overkill. Plus, their weakness was the run defense. That’s not good in that division. The undersized DT seems a bit of a strange move for me in their context.

      • Big Mike

        Everyone thought the same about Farley and Suh in Detroit…

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          how that worked out ?

  • Bender McLugh

    This is just funny:
    Panthers select Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida State.

    The only time the Panthers selected a wide receiver in the first round was 1997, when they took Colorado’s Rae Carruth with the 27th pick. Carruth was charged in 1999 and later convicted for conspiracy to murder his pregnant girlfriend.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    So.. Fuller went to same college and is similar in style and size with Brandon Flowers. Emery knows him very well. He didn’t draft him, though.

    • MB30SD

      Didn’t he just come on the market?

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        No fucking way. He is top level.

  • MB30SD

    New thread geeks

  • Trac

    As much as it pains me to say it, Barb brings a comprehensive knowledge of scheme to da blog that has now gotten my attention. If I were drafting posters today, he’d be my first pick. Having said that, he’s still an obnoxious prick at times but in a good way. Well done sir. Jerk!

  • Ososfan

    Man, I thought you guys had an epic battle with TobiJhon, cus his name used to have “barb” in it before and I assumed he reverted back to his old name. Or… Maybe I’ve had it all wrong since the beginning…..

  • Ososfan

    I’m all in on Cinte fighting for his job. He did alright before, when our DL was better, so give him shot. MB had never liked him and it’s understandable, but he deserves another shot. I’m glad Fuller will be used a lot as a rookie, I wonder where Frey fits now?

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