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Audibles From the Long Snapper: Sam Comes Out, Peppers Decision, Peanut Acceptance Speech

| February 10th, 2014

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CONGRATS TO MICHAEL SAM

Michael Sam coming out as gay prior to the NFL Combine and NFL Draft is a rare moment of human courage that deserves to be celebrated. If you don’t believe Sam’s decision will impact his draft status, you’re living on Mars. A large contingent of individuals inside NFL locker rooms – many of whom are greatly influenced by religious beliefs – deplore homosexuality. Teams will avoid drafting Sam to avoid the “drama” associated with his presence in the locker room. The young man does not have an easy road but heroism is rarely easy.

PEPPERS THE KEY DECISION

It is impossible to analyze the coming Chicago Bears off-season without knowledge of how Phil Emery plans to handle the Julius Peppers situation. From Brad Biggs in the Tribune:

Peppers carries a salary-cap figure of $18.183 million, but cutting him comes with implications and doesn’t improve a defense short on depth and talent at end. There will be options in free agency, but it’s premature to say which players will make it to the marketplace, where Peppers would stack up as a solid short-term option coming off a 71/2-sack season….

Unless the Bears plan to drop Peppers, which would leave $8,366,668 in dead cap space, and pursue one of the top free-agent options, there isn’t a simple solution.

Releasing Peppers would free up $9.8 million in cap space, or he could be counted as a post-June 1 cut, with the dead money equally divided between 2014 and 2015, freeing up nearly $14 million in cap space. More significant right now than cap space, which the Bears can create if necessary, is the unknown cash budget after signing Cutler, cornerback Tim Jennings, guard Matt Slauson and kicker Robbie Gould.

I would keep Peppers at a fair price. As bad as the Bears defense was in 2013, they would have been infinitely worse without him. And if the club is serious about adopting a hybrid-style attack, that approach might be perfectly suited to a pass rusher like Peppers.

TILLMAN’S MAN OF THE YEAR SPEECH

It will be a sad day if I ever watch Charles Tillman play football in a different uniform. In the modern era, Peanut has been my favorite Chicago Bear by a large margin. (Brian Urlacher is not even close.) Here is his acceptance speech of the Walter Payton Man of the Year award.

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  • Irish Sweetness

    Ahhh… the off-season …. anybody looked up Sgts. Clifford
    Stone and Bob Dean on Youtube yet? Are any of you guys police-officers or
    criminal investigators, where understanding of body-language is key? As an
    amateur, I’ve watched all of the youtube videos on body-language and the
    science of lying, and I’ve watched all of the testimonies of these two
    ex-military guys, and I’m not noticing any red flags. Their stories are
    literally out of this world.

    The whole shebang started in 1947 with the Roswell crashes, and
    the NSA and all of those super secret agencies popped into existence the same
    year. The reverse-engineering of flying saucers, anti-gravity control and
    gravity manipulation were in working order ten years later. Controlling gravity
    wells gives you time-travel and matter transportation capability. The
    Philadelphia Experiment was not just a Hollywood movie, it was the first step
    into your military’s adventure into matter transportation – although they were
    initailly only trying for invisibility cloaks. There is a reason NASA have
    ceased space exploration and have to rent space on Russian rockets to get to
    the ISS. Space travel is now entirely under the domain of the U.S. Navy, they
    are not only capable of anti-gravity propulsion, they’ve been doing it for
    sixty years and most flying saucer sightings and ‘boomerangs’ are craft of the
    Tenth Fleet of the United States Naval forces. They are developed in S-4/Area
    51 at Indian Springs Nevada, a Naval territory that exists outside the
    jurisdiction of the United States and its constitution. Underground bases
    beneath many many U.S. bases are connected by high speed magnalev rail, and
    according to a general friend of Bob Dean, on the bottom level of S-4 is a
    portal that connects Indian Springs Nevada with the largest flying saucer
    construction site on Earth, Pine Gap, Australia.

    A good friend of mine at work has a brother who witnessed with
    his own eyes, flying saucers exit the establishment back in the Seventies. The
    cover story was that it was a jointly-run operation between Australia and the
    U.S. Navy originating from the Apollo missions/radio contact and monitoring.

    I have video of anti-gravity machines being operated under U.S.
    control in Canada in the 1950s. I have video of flying saucers being
    constructed on U.S. bases in the 1960s, which I will post as a video on YT and
    share it with you, possibly some bringing unwanted attention on myself from
    some very dangerous people.

    And you paid for a lot of it. Trillions and trillions of
    dollars. Is that debt getting any smaller?

    You paid for and developed time-travel, de-materialization and
    matter transportation, and faster than light travel capability. Not
    science-fiction, but science-fact.

    Free and clean energy is being kept from you. They have
    perfected zero-point energy access (utilizing the energy from the ’empty space’
    in atoms first discovered by Nikola Tesla, the greatest scientist in human
    history, and whose patents were all bought by George Westinghouse and put
    beyond use, although are visible on the U.S. patents website). Mr. Tesla died
    an old man in the New Yorker hotel in his eighties, with a fraction of the fame
    afforded Albert Einstein, whose equations do not take into account the now
    universally-accepted physics of quantum mechanics, and whose opinion that light
    speed cannot be broken is false (given his ignorance/refusal to believe the New
    Physics governing photonic behaviour). He said that “God didn’t play
    dice”. It has now been proven that indeed God does play dice, and that we
    live in a probabilistic universe (ref QM).

    Another friend at the Uni is a Professor of Material science who
    was tasked by the KGB in 1989 with investigating UFO related incidents, close
    encounters of the third kind. First-hand information that I will share also,
    and beyond a shadow of doubt the man is not lying to me, and is in fact very
    cynical about such things.

    I do not believe everything I see, and I publicly debunked Bob
    Lazar with some help from my Physics professor friends (though I notice Stanton
    Friedman had already debunked him from an educational-claims perspective).

    I have seen two UFOs with my own eyes. One at night with a
    friend, and corroborated by my sister, who was in a different part of the
    village. The other was the glowing-orb type, which I witnessed with about 40,000
    other people at the Galway races in 1995 or 1996. A local paper dismissed it as
    St. Elmo’s fire, which is laughable.

    Philip Corso – he of “The day after Roswell” book is
    even more impeccable as a witness. He was tasked with intelligence control
    after the two Roswell crashes. Former Canadian defense Minister Paul Hellyer
    (with whom I have been in email contact, and who has used some information I
    gave him in television interviews) was reading the “The day after
    Roswell” when his son, who was in the US forces I believe, saw it. He said
    his General knew stuff about it. Hellyer rang the General in question, whom he
    also happened to know. When the guy picked up the phone – before a word had
    been spoken – said “it’s all true Paul, every single word”. Aside :
    the end of the book deals with alien bases on the dark side of the moon, which
    is why Kennedy wanted to share the moon ‘race’ with the Soviets,and why Reagan
    wanted to share the cost of SDI with the Soviets. Who were they afraid of? Why
    did Reagan make all of those strange comments during his presidency re aliens?

    I’ll get into Kennedy and Marilyn Monroe later. He may not have
    been shot for issuing Government money and opposing the Fed, it may have been
    due to his desire for disclosure,and Monroe’s forbidden knowledge likely fed by
    drug-fuelled pillow talk. She was a person of interest to the NSA, and her last
    contact was with a Spanish reporter to whom she said “was going to blow
    the top off the whole thing.”

    Colonel Philip J Corso had higher security clearance than the
    President of the United states. He waited the required 50 years of his security
    silence waiver, and the death of his last superior officer (Gen. Trudeau, I
    think), before publishing his story on Roswell in 1997, in which he was a key
    figure entrusted with the cover-up. these are the men we should listen to, the
    men with nothing to gain, the men who kept their mouths shut out of a sense of
    patriotism until they weren’t required to do so anymore.

    But let’s start at the start, and if Roswell is true ….

    R.I.P. Col. Philip J. Corso, and thank you.

    And down the rabbit hole we go …..

    • MB30SD

      again?

      Common maings. At least come up with some new crazy shiete.

      • johnnywad

        That would be like asking you to give up boobies. Its just not happening. Irish brings color. I like it. Beats talking about Pepp’s deal s’more.

        • MB30SD

          oh don’t get me wrong, I loves me some irish (that’s what she said), but he posted this already a few times. I was giving him shit more for not having NEW crazy and amusing stuff, not for bringing crazy amusing stuff.

          • gpldan

            I, for one, would like to see a conspiracy story involving pirates, the Phillipines, and the XBox One Kinect controller being run by aliens who use it to study our body motion so they can make synthetics that can dance.

          • MB30SD

            I’d buy that for a dollar.

            Speaking of… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INmtQXUXez8

          • Irish Sweetness

            Jimmy! Is that my boy at BYU ??
            (swoon)

          • Irish Sweetness

            Point taken, mang. But the ‘new’ shit is all old. Only the old-timers are talking because of the gag orders being up. and there’s lots and lots of old shit. This is the biggest secret EVER, and it’s just not being talked about. Reagan was on CNN talking about the need to keep nukes around for the ‘alien threat’. The CIA went straight to CNN and closed it down, made the story disappear – not the White House press office, the CIA.

            Reagan wouldn’t shut up about aliens once he knew it was all true – the “I shot Reagan for Jodie Foster” story never rang true, did it?

          • MB30SD

            i’ve given up my maingses. whatever. I’m just living my life as best I can enjoying as much as possible… the end is nigh regardless right? fuck it.

      • Irish Sweetness

        If you want the really out there stuff, MB. Check out Preston Nichols and Duncan Cameron, The Philadelphia Experiment and the Montauk boys. Strictly just for fun, I wouldn’t stand behind it but it’s good entertainment if nothing else.

        For something more palatable, this gentleman does not appear to be lying, and waited until the year 2000 to come forward. Captain Bill Uhouse, USMC. Not quite 20 minutes, it’s worth a watch. He used to build the flight simulators for the USA’s flying saucers (I’ll get the video stuff up in the next few days), and had interactions with the ‘alien tech liason’, J-rod. The body language and the way he starts answering questions before the questioner has finished the sentence would indicate truthful responses. He is not Bob Lazar. He’s an old school Marine and I believe him.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      I believe that there’s more going on than meets the eye of the general public, and I watch my fair share of Ancient Aliens and America Unearthed stuff (I’m a big history buff). However, it’s surprising that you are even able to enjoy some things in life even as simple as football if your mind goes down the “rabbit hole” as deep as it seems from your post here.

      Governments will always have cover-ups. It’s prevalent throughout history that powerful nations and civilization will try to cover up and/or rewrite history to the way they want it done. As far as their ulterior motives, who knows? I believe that most recent cover-ups on the grand scale is done to protect humanity. Why? Because most people cannot handle the stuff that you and I would be able to handle. I want the truth, but, I would hate to step outside of my house if EVERYTHING got out at one time, because so many people would go INSANE.

      I am interested as to what you have to say, but you need to present it more coherently and in smaller tidbits. Information overload tends to be a turnoff to many if you want to present a convincing argument.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Manageable mouthfuls. Point taken.

        And it does take its toll. My interest in the whole thing was rekindled when I befriended that Professor who had investigated things for the KGB/Military. I could tell instantly the man was no bullshitter, and that he had few people to talk to about such things (he’s a very private, timid kind of soul anyway). He had also put these things aside for many years as there is nowhere to go with it really – it was only when I started cornering him in his office that he started to think in these terms again. I felt he was responsible for me in some way because you don’t just lay stories like that on someone and then expect them not to come back for more. The hairs would go up on the back of my neck, you know when you’re hearing the truth. Sometimes you aren’t sure with people when you hear some things they come out with – but when it’s the truth, it just sings. It is hard to walk around in a society where most people have filtered the possibility of such things completely out of the realms of possibility.

        Motives and agenda ? I don’t know. As Yuri says, we know no more than the fly who lands on the television screen. Does the fly perceive what that TV screen is, and what it’s showing, and the meaning behind what is being shown, and the different levels behind that? Genetics and nuclear arsenals are definitely involved.

        It’s a huge thing. You’re right, they’re afraid of how the general public would take it if all the governments came out in unison and said that not only are these things real, but they’re here, they’ve been here for a very long time, and we are containers for something, we are special to them in some way.

        Should we be afraid? I think not. If they wanted to kick seven sorts of Sunday out of us, they could have done so a long time ago. I suspect they will not tolerate us weaponizing space though, which is what the Navy are doing and have been doing. The Chinese are learning all about it right now on the dark side of our moon. I feel confident, if anything, that they will not allow a full-scale nuclear war to happen on this planet – if not to protect us, then perhaps to protect their own environments if they are indeed sharing parallel dimensional space with us.

        So yeah, football helps from falling down the rabbit hole.

        Go Bears.

    • Ososfan

      I really love this, thanks Irish!!

      • Irish Sweetness

        You’re welcome!

  • CanadaBear

    It will be interesting to see where the kid is drafted vs where he was predicted to go. Not that the draft gurus know shit from shinola. Jeff I took piano lessons for about 3 months when I was 8. It was torture. Took them as an adult in my ’30’s. It’s never too late to learn. Right now I’m taking accordion lessons. Lots of fun!

    • MB30SD

      Here you go canada: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20140209/michael-sam-draft-stock/?eref=sihp

      Although I applaud his courage and 100% understand why he did what he did, he probably unfortunately just screwed himself out of millions of dollars. the establishment is what it is, and I bet/hope he took all of that into consideration before he made his final choice. Hopefully he gets to make it up in endorsements and other media related outlets.

      • MB30SD
        • MB30SD

          well, he definitely has a seriously monchichi hairline, that’s for sure.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Yeah, but for some people, it’s not about the money. If this man loses several millions or tens of millions of dollars because of his decision, then at least we know he’s not a greedy athlete and he cares about his own happiness and actual love of football. Fine by me.

        It is unfortunate, however, that the media is having a field day over this. I’m all for the people who can bring to light this topic, but the media is already overdoing this whole subject to where I hope it isn’t for ratings sake.

        • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

          The media will Tebow the shit out of this situation for money.

          • MB30SD

            ’tis what they do.

        • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

          ha, I should’ve scrolled down.

      • CanadaBear

        I read somewhere they thought he was a 3rd rounder at the highest. If that’s the case, if he doesn’t get drafted but makes it onto an NFL roster, it shouldn’t cost him too much money. Who knows?

      • johnnywad

        I think your last sentence nails it. This kid has put himself squarely in the middle of a national hot button topic. He’s obviously a very motivated individual. If this play is half as smart as I think it is, he’s going to make NFL money look small. I can already imagine a couple of books being written by the end of his football career. Imagine what this kid can do down the road in terms of speaking engagements, consulting, etc. The NFL is a short term, high risk, gamble. And now, instead
        of dealing with a crisis, down the road, he’ll get drafted by an organization that knows he’s gay and doesn’t care. (Patriots). I’ll be willing to admit I’m wrong, but I think the kid set his career trajectory yesterday and is obviously thinking bigger than football.

        • MB30SD

          yep

        • NewBearInTown

          Was thinking to post the same thing.
          Keep in mind, his rookie deal is the only thing that this really hurts. If he gets drafted in the 5th instead of the 3rd, we’re talking about maybe $1M a year for 3-4 years. That’s real money, but its not like he’s losing a $100M contract. He can get a nice chunk of that money back in endorsements (and there will be endorsements) and he can set himself to do professional speaking for the rest of his life. It makes good business sense for sure.
          Who doesn’t think that one of the major shoe companies won’t sign this guy to do a commercial? If I’m Under Armor, I’m already planning my Superbowl spot. This guy’s story is gold and he hasn’t played a snap.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Trojan condoms? KY Jelly? The endorsement possibilities are endless, as are the book titles : “Getting banged around in the NFL”. “Being a defensive tight end in the NFL” yada yada.

            He’s not worried about his salary, he’s playing the long cock – I mean game. NTTAWWT.

      • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

        From what I’ve read, scouts already knew he was gay, and often know whether a prospect is gay beforehand from their background checks.

        So really it’s not being gay that will hurt him much, it’s the media attention that will discourage teams.

        If the media really were “liberal”, they’d do this kid a favor and just let the story fly under the radar a bit.

        But they’re money grabbing corporate opportunists, and they’re going to blow this up more than they have to for ratings, money.

        It’s the American Way.

        • SC Dave

          One of the big reasons I no longer own a television. Coming up on four years now (ditched cable and TV after the 2010 World Cup) and not missing it at all.

  • MB30SD

    btw, peanut is awesome. I really really hope he stays.

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      Tillman is just a turnover machine. I mean, I EXPECT Peanut to cause a fumble or interception at least once a game on top of covering the opponents biggest receiver and tackling like a linebacker.

      Peanut is the man. Hopefully, he’s a reasonable one, but I was hoping the same with Kruetz and Urlacher…

      • MB30SD

        the nut strikes me as very different to lach. Lach sounds as dumb as a fucking bag of hammers, and olin was too proud.

        Tillman strikes me as neither of those. We shall see soon enough. Fingers crossed.

        • NewBearInTown

          Tillman might be something else neither of those guys was though: Marketable.
          Peanut will draw interest from a lot of teams. Maybe not for big $$, but probably more than Lach or Olin drew. If he gets a couple of teams to fight over him, the Bears will be priced out of the market.

        • Irish Sweetness

          No way, man. Lac was dumb? Not at football. You don’t get defenses to do what ours did unless there’s a guy in there who knows what’s up. If anyone is dumb, it’s guys like Briggsy who shone in the glow of Urlacher’s sun – and I don’t think that’s painting too pretty a picture.
          We went from having a pretty good defense to the all-time worst, and the only difference was Brian wasn’t there and we lost a few average players to injury. Every team loses players to injury, but we lost a leader to penny-pinching and lack of foresight.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Accepting two million dollars to be the defensive captain and middle linebacker for the Chicago Bears was not a reasonable offer, Butch. It was an insult. It was a “F-you, retire already. This is what we think you’re worth”. Look how that worked out – even Briggsy showed he could not call a defense on his own. He just hasn’t got Lac’s football brain. And I’ve always said this about older players who lose a step – at least they’re running in the right direction, as are the other players who have just been told what the offense is going to do on the next play.

        No way we’d have the worst Bears defense ever if Bri had played this year. No way known. Plus, he’d be in there teaching up Bostic and whoever else. We got rid of him too early and we kicked him in the ass on the way out.

  • MB30SD

    not disgusted enough with your congress…. ok, here you go: http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:10430955

  • Johnathan Wood

    I just might cry to see Tillman play for another team. He’s long been my favorite Bear, although Brandon Marshall has probably passed him ever so slightly the last 2 years due to his advocacy for mental illness hitting home with me (impacts some family members and close friends).

  • Johnathan Wood

    In regards to Sam, I think it would be huge if several other players finally went through with it and came out as well. Deflect the media attention from one person onto a group. That makes it more bearable (and less likely to scare teams off)

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      I was really hoping Rogers would come out (in all seriousness), or a player along his stature. A captain with a long resume of success and maybe a ring. I think that would have “broken the barrier” while diffusing it a bit (it’s not as if the Packers are gonna trade Rodgers).

      Sam from what I’ve read was expected to go anywhere from the 2nd-7th (before the gay announcement), so it’ll be hard to know exactly if he ‘dropped’ or not. However, if Sam has crazy combine numbers and doesn’t get drafted, then we know what’s going on there.

      • CanadaBear

        I’ll make a crack about Rodgers every time I can but I truly won’t care when he comes out. There’s absolutely no way he’s straight.

        • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

          I’m with you on that Canada. I really do feel like Rodger’s is gay, and I wouldn’t care. The fact that he’s a Packer disgusts me more.

          A kid coming out that hasn’t even done the combine – that seems unfair, and to be quite honest, if I’m a gay vet in the NFL, I would feel a little ashamed that this young kid had the BALLS to do it, while I didn’t.

          • CanadaBear

            I don’t blame pro athletes for not coming out. Esp in the macho sports. Hope things work out the way they should for the kid.

          • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

            I would’ve settled for someone who retired, just to show it can be done.

            Now this kid becomes like Jackie Robinson. However, by most scouting reports, he’s doesn’t have that type of talent. What happens if he’s out of a job in 3 years not for being gay, but because he’s always been a border-line NFL players? That might discourage others from coming out.

          • CanadaBear

            Yeah, tough call on that one. It’s like Kluwe always running his yap. If you’re lights out, say what you want, otherwise you get what you get.

          • MB30SD

            too…. many… inappropriate…. jokes…. possible… must…. resist…. muuuuust…. reeessiiiiiissssst.

          • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)
          • MB30SD

            that made me laugh

          • MB30SD
          • Irish Sweetness

            I’m the only gay in the village you know ….

          • Irish Sweetness

            Their eyes are black! BLACK I SAY!!!!

          • SC Dave

            Yeah, I mean can’t we just celebrate them for what they are? You know, Rodgers is a damn good quarterback. And Evgeni Plushenko is a damn good ice fairy.

  • gpldan

    $8M is a lot of dead cap space, but $9m free is more. Would you prefer as a GM to have that ratio look more like 4:1 than 1:1? Sure you would. But that’s the deal that Glitchy made, and Pep sleepwalked his way through last season and lived down to his reputation as a player who dogged it when he didn’t feel the urge. For all the amazing plays he made as a Bear – and there were alot of plays he made that you said – wow, only Julius could do that – he marred it by his insisting to mail it in for entire series or often whole games.

    IMO, he played his way out of Canton as a Bear. It’s time to take the hit, say thanks for the good memories, you were Wale++, and spend the $9m on players who can make the team better,

    • MB30SD

      sadly… this.

    • CanadaBear

      He was better than advertised against the run. He was great at sniffing out screens. When you fail to make the game stat sheet at DE, either you’re getting dominated or taking the game off. He failed to make the stat sheet numerous times last year. Usually it was just a couple of games each season. Unless they do something terribly creative contract-wise, he’s gone.

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      It’s hard to know if Pepp did mail it in, or if he was actually playing through that chronic fasciatis, so he HAD to pick and choose when to turn it on.

      There’s always the possibility that he just got old, like Lach.

      Given that Pepp has been nothing but a pro on our team, I’m willing to give him the benefit of doubt and say he didn’t mail it in (esp since he was still getting double teamed a shit load).

      Still, neither planter fasciatis or aging can be cured.

      • Irish Sweetness

        The foot thing – he wasn’t producing either way, shouldn’t have been on the field IMHO. They played him because of his big contract? Whoever made that decision – if it’s true – needs to be shot in public.

        • MB30SD

          Jerry. Angelo.

          Yes please.

    • NewBearInTown

      Agree with the sentiment that its time to move on. I think all the discussion is really just to fill air time, the team isn’t spending $18M on a somewhat above average DE (which is probably what his numbers showed last year). He’s getting cut or taking a big pay cut.

      But the team will use the post June 1 designation, so the $8M in dead space becomes $4 this year and $4 next year. And that’s fairly manageable when you’re trying to start a lot of draft picks and therefore spending less on free agents.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I never saw Julius Peppers play for the Bears. I just saw some guy turn up, buy champagne for everybody, and then pick up paychecks week in week out when we could have had two triers in his place. And neither did I see all of these double-teams he was supposed to be commanding.

      Bye Pep, you were great in Carolina.

  • gpldan

    This just in:

    Aaron Rodgers asked the Packers GM if they could draft Michael Sam. Nobody knows why.

    • johnnywad

      That one made me laugh out loud GP. Thanks. Stafford will be jealous

    • Irish Sweetness

      Rodgers did say Sam would look simply super on the Packers D and that it was ab-fab that he’d come out already.

      Sorry.

      Just let us have this thread to get them all out.

  • gpldan

    MB –

    Stole the Chicago Auto Show…

    http://www.caranddriver.com/photo-gallery/2015-lexus-rc-f-photos-and-info-news

    I expect shit for saying this about a Lexus, but it’s true.

    • MB30SD

      I like it. Like the big grill.

      Lexus makes good cars maings. The electric blue is turrible, but that’s easily fixed.

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      Bring back Jimmy Mac!

      Unlike many other Bear legends, he actually WON a SB, so really he should symbolize your desire for organizational greatness.

      (that’s the best I got).

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    OK, so I’ve been watching a shit-load of Martial Art’s flicks AND alien/conspiracy theory docs (inspired by Irish), so I’m gonna post a few and let YOU decide.

    This one is on the Bilderberg Group. I’m not sure what’s going on there, but a lot of the players showing up (Obama, Clinton, Rockafeller, Tim Geitner, Kissinger, Queen of the Netherlands, Vernon Jordan,etc…) make me really curious what they’re discussing

    http://youtu.be/q-r4DGx04gI

    • Irish Sweetness

      Motherf*ckers. They’re discussing you and me and how there’s too many of us. Timothy Geithner – don’t get me fucking started on that monumental sucker of satan’s c*ck. President of the Fed to Secretary of the treasury? You couldn’t write this stuff!!

      BTW- Kissinger is on the replacement crew for MJ12.

    • Irish Sweetness

      The tri-lateral commission, the Council on Foreign relations, The Bilderbergers. A lot of the same people. They’re all cross-pollinated, but they all suck at the teat of the family you NEVER hear about, the Rothschilds. Their goal is clear I think. The European union is already complete. ASEAN takes effect next year (the Asian union). Then Canada/NA/S.America will form a union with a common currency -the Amero. Once the three blocs are formed, the global currency happens, the three are merged into one – BANG!- NWO. 1984. George Orwell. Game over.

      Population reduction is apparently also key. When your government wants you to get vaccinated, start running in the opposite direction.

      Ventura’s show is very much like Ghosthunters or some such program. Aimed at the room-temperature IQs and nothing of substance ever revealed. Case in point, his program on Area 51, consisting of him driving up to the outskirts of Area 51, and acting surprised that there isn’t an information booth outside the place where they build flying saucers and control gravity. There’s a sign that says come in here and we’ll fucking shoot you. Jesse likes to get filmed saying he’s The Guv’nor, when that puts him at the level of burger-flipper in the Mickey D’s corporation.

      How many of us believe that something as complex as the AIDS virus came from a man shagging a monkey? What they have going for them is that the average IQ is about 70 in sub-saharan Africa and 80-100 everywhere else. That’s pretty fucking stupid. This is how they get away with this shit. The Federal Reserve scam is 100 years old already – how much closer are the public to demanding a repeal tot he act? They don’t even know there’s a scam. They think the constitution is protecting them. George W let the cat out of the bag when he said it was just a piece of paper … it’s there in black and white “only the government shall have the power to coin wealth” or words to that effect – and that’s exactly the only power that has been left to them. Minting coins. That was not the intention of those who worded the document.

      The scumbags you elected to Congress and Senate are either complicit in the continuance of milking what wealth you as citizens have left, or they’re too stupid to realize what’s going on. Either way, hang ’em high, because that’s treason.

      Go Bears!

      • Ososfan

        Yo Irish, how can you even master to trust someone with spoo much info, aren’t you scared you might be set-up?

        • Irish Sweetness

          I haven’t got much left to lose, bro. I think they only go after people who have actually got stuff to show and tell. Insiders and suchlike. The thing is, maybe we only get one shot at this thing called life. Do you want to be one of those sheep that goes meekly to the slaughter, or stand up and shout “The emperor has no clothes!”. I lost my last job, a good job, when I told the boss to pay his workers on time when I knew he had the money because I was his sales manager, and he was paying me under the table anyway. I had six-month old twins and no contract. I just can’t keep my mouth shut when I see injustice. I should, but I can’t. It hasn’t worked out well for me in life, but what can you do? As I write, I may be taking industrial action against the President of the college where I teach because he treats employees contracts with utter disdain – he feels because it’s “his college” that he can do what he wants, and so he pisses all over his employees, who are professors and teachers, learned men who won’t stand up and take him on when he so flagrantly flouts their contracts and doesn’t allow people to take leave, and punishes those that do. it’s medieval shit. Ghenghis Khan is the guy’s actual hero. He’s a megalomaniac. I have no savings, I’m on very thin ice, and have two kids to support, but I’m not letting this fucker run rough-shod over people. But I’ve read the labor law, and gotten an ex-employee to test the water, which he has done and was successful, so the path has been laid. “Dancing for the man” pisses me off. It’s like a disease with me. It sucks!

  • MB30SD

    since we’ve been talking about stuff in the news.

    I give you this modern day fucking mystery…

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/08/world/americas/missing-american-mexico/index.html?hpt=hp_t5

    What do you THINK happened to a gringo in mainland mexico riding a motorcycle? Jesus people. Have some brains. That’s not an adventure, that’s a suicide mission.

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      “”I’ve been chased with a gun in Colombia, chipped my tooth on a gun that
      was shoved in my mouth in Venezuela and shot everything from a bazooka
      to a machine gun, an M16 to a Colt .45,” Devert wrote in his travel
      blog, A New Yorker Travels.
      “I’ve been in some of the poorest and some of the most dangerous parts
      of the world and to many of the finest, and I still can’t tell which I
      liked more. I think that life is a pilgrimage.”

      Live by the sword…

      I doubt he got kidnapped since the family didn’t receive any sort of ransom demand which is typical. Maybe El Guapo took offense to his sombrero.

      • MB30SD

        yep. good for him for feeling that way, but it was bound to catch up to him.

        And yes, if I was El Guapo, I too would take offense to that sombrero.

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    For those with Iphones, some tips (including not charging it overnight).

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/06/doing-wrong-iphone_n_4732014.html?ir=Weird+News

    • MB30SD

      #1. Buying an iPhone instead of a Samsung and going Android instead

      • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

        Haha…I have an android too.

        • MB30SD

          if you’re not a weepy emo digital ‘arteest’ it makes no sense to get one of those POSs. smh.

          • gpldan

            Apple: For weepy emo fucks. Cry different.

  • MB30SD

    and while I’m at it, a zoo in copenhagen killed (with a gat to the back of the dome) and butchered a healthy giraffe in front of a crowd, including kids… and then fed the pieced to their lions.

    http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2014/02/10/pkg-pleitgen-giraffe-cull.cnn&hpt=hp_bn2&from_homepage=yes&video_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F

    that and the dev who made flappy birds was clearing $50,000 A DAY… but took the game off the market. Jesus. The apocalypse is nigh!

  • MB30SD

    Just ate my lunch and turned on NFL Live.

    Watching McShae and helmet head talk about him…

    what if he did this IN ORDER TO hype himself and get a higher pick/more money? They kept saying that he is a 4th rounder on tape, nothing more nothing less. Hmmmm… what if he knew this and took a gamble on coming out BEFORE the combine and draft in order to just get him noticed? “All press is good press” and all that. Strateegery.

  • gpldan
  • Max

    Depending on the combine, I would love to see the Bears take Sam in the fifth round.

    • NewBearInTown

      The guy has a third round grade according to the media (which is meaningless). I think some people don’t want him now because of the distraction. Some people wanted him all along, but now they’re willing to gamble that he’ll drop.

      If you had a third round grade on him before, of course you take him in the fifth. Question is, if you had a third round grade on him before, would you take him in the third?

      FWIW, I haven’t seen any tape, but the word on the street is he struggled to convert to OLB but is undersized to play to traditional DE in a 4-3 setup. He’s one of those tweeners that struggles to find the right position. We have that in McLellin. Before we draft another guy with the same problem, let’s find a winning formula for the first rounder that’s already on the team.

      See how I did that? I just said I don’t want to draft him and didn’t even mention the latest press release. But if I’m a GM, the media would never believe me.

      • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

        That’s why I said that it’ll be hard to figure out if he drops because of the media attention, or his actual value.

      • MB30SD

        but your point is def true for us. We already have our undersized high motor situational speed pass rusher in CD… and for all anyone knows maybe he’s gay too?!

        • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

          He does like getting rammed backwards (hey yo!)

          • MB30SD

            eeeeaaaaassssyyyyyyyyy!

          • Irish Sweetness

            This is the coming-out thread. Free passes for the duration of the thread.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Yup, if we draft an end he’s got to look something like Pep. Somebody who’s big enough that once his motor is going then there’s no stopping him on the way to burying Gay-Rod – I mean A-Rod’s head in the turf.

  • Cormonster

    What’s the proper pronoun when addressing a human who doesn’t consider themselves a male or female?
    http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/09/disgruntled-worker-who-is-not-a-female-or-a-male-sues-for-518682-over-pronouns/

    • MB30SD

      sup yo?

      • MB30SD

        annoying ahole, no matter what ‘it’ is.

        • CanadaBear

          Sometimes I roll my eyes at people who correct you when you mispronounce their names. If it is spelled like a very common name how do you get so indignant about it?

          Cousin It is a complete mess. Have to laugh at the amount of money Cousin It is seeking. Oregon is one of the poorer states and unemployment is very high. Ever since the timber industry bellied up in Oregon it’s been tough. No Oregon jury is going to give this person any kind of settlement, esp not a half mil.

    • gpldan

      Cousin It?

    • Irish Sweetness

      it’s Pat.

  • MB30SD

    NB, here you go: http://www.nfl.com/top50

    Couple things I noticed:
    1. Now there are TWO top 15 safeties in the list (Dix and Pryor)

    2. There’s only one DT?!?!

    • Johnathan Wood

      and this is just one person’s opinion. Not necessarily indicative of how teams have their boards set up

      • MB30SD

        right, but an interesting look at the list. Gotta believe there’ll be reasonable agreement about the top 10ish

        • Johnathan Wood

          that is by FAR the highest I’ve seen Jernigan. Some people have him as a borderline 1st rounder.

    • NewBearInTown

      1. Yeah, Dix and Pryor get called 1a and 1b by a lot of guys I hear talking.
      2. The DT class is a little weak at the top. Haven’t really dug in to see if its weak in general or just weak at the top. If the real good value at DT comes in rounds 2-4 or something, then Emery could opt for one of the true first class safety prospects.
      I see WR rankings are pretty inflated in the first round this year. I have to wonder if that won’t prove to be overzealous. First round WRs are notoriously difficult to predict.

      • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

        It really does depend on what sort of D we’re going to run. If we are going to stick to the classic cover-2, than there’s only like 2 DTs who most experts think will make a difference.

        DT Jernigan
        DT Aaron Donald (who is really undersized)

        After that, it’s a real crap shoot, and considering how important a 3-tech is, we’d almost definitely have to draft either.

        If we’re going more hybrid, then those bigger slower space eaters can be drafted later.

        • NewBearInTown

          Thing is, if we go hybrid, we still need somebody to get pressure up the middle. We need a pass rushing 3T, a NT with some speed, or maybe a MLB who can do more pressuring.

          • MB30SD

            sounds like we should go Dix in 1, and a DT/DE in 2 and 3. Pick up our 3T in FA.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Our center is coming in the third. Better be. @#$%!

          • NewBearInTown

            I don’t know if Dix or Pryor is the better fit on our team. Emery might also have his eye on a good value at safety further down the board. I think this is a strong safety class overall.

            Also, there are some really good corners in the top part of this class. I personally like Kyle Fuller out of VTech in the second round, but there are other options as well. If Emery agrees with me and we go corner in round 2, do we want to take a safety in round 1 and wait until round 3 for our first lineman? That’s another consideration.

            There are a lot of good safeties available in FA this year as well. Emery might draft a safety in round 4 to develop under a journeyman for a year.

            A lot of ways this could play out.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I can see us drafting a safety if the difference maker DTs/DEs are gone. 15 would be a reach on a guy who’s down your board when you can have the (supposed) top safety.

        • NewBearInTown

          Exactly right.

          Last year, the top two DTs (Sheldon Richardson, Star Lotulele) went at #13 and #14. So we’re in the right spot to get a top DT if this years plays out the same. But if #13 takes our guy and the safeties are still on the board – I wouldn’t be afraid to pull the trigger on a ball hawk to upgrade the secondary.

  • MB30SD

    Dude, GP!

    Is that a young fresh BYU jimmy mac? Pre-NFL tarnish?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Right about the time Steve Young was getting his learn-on watching Mac do his thing … OR … about the time Mac was sitting on the bench behind Marc Wilson thinking “douchebag,wait’ll they getta loada me”.

    • gpldan

      Freshly cut Mormon.

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    Michael Johnson, come on down?

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/10/michael-johnson-seen-as-unlikely-to-remain-in-cincinnati/

    Going from 11 sacks to 3 sacks concerns me, especially considering that defense.

    Heck, Pepp had more sacks than him last year.

    • NewBearInTown

      This is good for us. Off the top of my head, we’ve got Michael Bennett, Cliff Avril, Peppers, Jared Allen, Greg Hardy, Brian Arakpo, Lamarr Houston and Justin Tuck all looking for new deals. This is the second year in a row that the market is flooded with pass rushers. A buyer’s market means cheaper deals for teams. More likely we can get one (or two!) solid pass rushers without destroying the cap.
      For those wondering why I mention Peppers. If we approach him to renegotiate, his agent will tell him how many other guys will also be looking for work. That’s strong motivation to stick around at a reasonable price.

      • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

        That’s what I thought. Flood the market. Plus, the Cowboys will be out of the picture because they’re going to be like $20M over the cap.

        I’m just wondering why his sacks went down so much (I know they’re not everything, but still…)

        • NewBearInTown

          Possibly disgruntled at his new deal, possibly just wasn’t the guy getting the stats. That defense was legit this year, I doubt he was a weak link.
          Would be interested to see all QB pressures stats, not just sacks.

          • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

            Do we really want a guy who folds up his tent because he didn’t get paid?

            I know I don’t. What happens when he does get paid?

        • AlbertInTucson

          Yes, recent stat I saw had Dallas in the worst shape, cap-wise, with a current payroll of $150M.

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    Speaking of the draft, the more I read about Jernigan, the more I want him and hope he’s still around at 14.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000310269/article/greg-robinson-tim-jernigan-dominate-bcs-championship-game

    Like I said before, our only real poachers lie at #7(Lovie Bucs) and #12(G-men).

    • Johnathan Wood

      the Giants don’t do DTs in round 1. Pass rush or OL for them.

      The Bucs already have one stud DT. THey need a pass rusher more than a run stuffer.

      I’m just not sold on spending that high of a pick on a guy who mainly stuffs the run and offers little as a pass rusher. I think Hageman is a better pick. Riskier, but much higher upside. Seems like an Emery guy too (big, athletic, has all the measurables). And at 320 pounds would be a GREAT fit in a hybrid.

      • Johnathan Wood

        The more I look at it, the more I would love to see the Bears add Linval Joseph in FA and draft Hageman. That’s 660 pounds of stud to anchor the middle of your hybrid D right there.

        • Johnathan Wood

          I know, Jernigan had more sacks (4.5) than Hageman (2) last year. But I believe Hageman got a more consistent pass rush. Plus he was ALWAYS the main focus as the only legit NFL prospect on the defense, while Jernigan had several other NFLers around him.

          • Johnathan Wood

            mainly I just want a good DL guy in round 1. If that ends up being Jernigan, awesome. I just personally like Hageman. Maybe it’s my B1G bias.

          • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

            Hageman seems like more of a project though. I have a feeling he’s going to blow up in the combine though.
            Jernigan is a prototypical 3 tech who by most accounts dominated even at the Senor bowl when the competition was more even.

            I’m a little more iffy on Hageman. Seems like that old argument about low floors and high ceilings.

      • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

        If they lose Linval Joseph to FA then they may very well draft a DT. They like their pass rushers. But I agree, if an OT falls to them, that’s where they’re going. Problem is, a lot of other teams ahead of them need OTs too, and this is a poor draft for OGs and Cs.

      • Irish Sweetness

        • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

          I’m not as impressed with Hageman as some. He plays high, doesn’t seem to overpower anyone, doesn’t jump off tape as explosive (though has good long speed for pursuit), and looks stiff in the hips.

          And from most accounts, he lacks consistency, which could mean a lot of things (the worst of which is ‘low motor’, and aren’t we all bitching about Pepp disappearing?)

          I know Hageman’s more of a project, but those are dangerous (see Shea).

    • Irish Sweetness

      • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

        Yes, please!

        Jernigan seems very strong, and pretty fast, though not as explosive as Tommie Harris (who is?) Seems to push olinemen back, and disengage with strong punch/hands. He gobbles up RBs. That’s exactly the type of DT we need.

  • MB30SD

    Well, looks like we win either way! BOOM!

    http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/Analysts-predict-who-Bears-will-draft/9e102a98-c07e-4666-968d-64ee7753cabd

    I’ll take either of them baby. Please god Emery, no project picks please. Cement your dynasty here, don’t get fucking cute… you could be adding jernigan to Jones instead of CD.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Interesting. Maybe teams want to trade up to our spot to take that Corner, Dennard. We trade down and get two or three linemen in round 2. With Melton out the door and Wooten and Ratliff as FAs, we might very well have NO linemen left ….

  • MB30SD
    • gpldan

      I joked that he was getting dysentery, but the Russians really did fuck him over. Huh.

      • MB30SD

        Both eyes infected. My buddy had it once… lasted 3 months before it cleared up. Brutal.

  • Cormonster

    I watched the opening ceremony for the Winter Olympics. The Russians rightly glossed over the Soviet communist era.

    What were the achievements during that era?. All I can come up with is death instruments. The T34 tank, the Kalisnhnikov AK47, and assorted nuclear weapons.

    Aside from art, what have the Russians contributed to humanity in the last 100 years? It surely isn’t industrial or agricultural might like they may think.

    Without writing an essay and going into too much detail, I’ll just talk about a Russian guy who worked for me on a Visa.

    I got talked into hiring this guy by a friend about 6 years ago. Average to below average employee for a few months. He was open and got to ask him questions.

    He grew up south of St. Petersburg by the Latvian or Lithuanian border. He told me that they still scythe the hay with manual labor. They still live like a collective farming town.

    I was blown away when I heard this. In the US, an old man with a 1950’s tractor and baler could do more work in a day with a couple 15 year old kids than an entire Russian town, 100’s of people, could do over a 2-3 day period.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Whoa. Russians get a lot of bad press in America. The rest of the world shakes its collective head at the disdain for the Soviets. It’s just brain-washing leftover from the McCarthy years. They didn’t ask for communism and were victims of the largest genocide in history at the hands of Stalin. They are among the most intelligent people in the world, and any Russian I’ve known I have liked.

      As a fan of the space program growing up, I was not biased towards either the Soviets or the USA, but it’s interesting that they did everything before the USA. First satellite in space, first man/woman in space, first spacewalk, first nation to reach the moon, first to land an object on the moon … everything bar land a man there first. As engineers, they were superior to the USA (their N-1 rockets that were built in the 60s are being used today to lift American payloads into space). The USA required Nazi scientists to design their rockets. In fact, I don’t think there has ever been an American rocket designer.

      In the last 100 years, in fact forever, ALL of our science has come from Soviets/Europeans, I can’t think of any relevant U.S. scientists at all other than Richard Feynman (and his family were Russian/Polish Ashkenazi Jews anyway). Edison didn’t invent the light bulb, and profited largely from the squashing of Tesla, a Croatian who wanted to give the world free energy.

      I’d say the Russians have given us a lot. In fact, it’s America whose biggest export is weaponry … and their brand of a very fascist foreign policy that was popular with a young Austrian in the 1930s. All the signs are there. Uni-lateral wars. A para-military. Freedoms constantly eroded away. They tick all the boxes. Eisenhower warned his own people it was happening in 1961.
      Sad, but true.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Addendum :

        1. The Siberians that come to Pattaya en masse (Russian is probably the number two language here after Thai) – have very little in common with Russians (Russians tell me) and are very rude … and erm … basic. The concept of sunscreen is not one with which they seem familiar.

        2. Russian Jews have come up with a LOT of good shit. Music, science, acting/movies … damn, what’s left to come up with?

        • MB30SD

          Whatever ‘ s left the Israelis came up with

      • SC Dave

        On rocket development, I remember hearing a quip we won the “space race” because “our Germans were better than their Germans”.

        I don’t know how you can list things about American and not include the first ten amendments to the US Constitution. Despite its imperfections*, the Bill of Rights serves even today as a model for freedom-loving people. Unfortunately, the nation has reached the apathy phase, and allows our government to eviscerate it amendment by amendment but one can hardly blame the framers for that.

        Additionally, for whatever reason, the United States remains the hotbed of technical innovation in the world.

        * Particularly the 10th which has been bastardized so badly by the Progressives and their modern camp-followers.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Dave, the constitution would be a *great* idea if they actually kept to it. Namely the wealth creation, and bits about freedom.

      • CanadaBear

        Not going to get all political on you Irish but my great uncle was in a Japanese concentration camp in WWII. They brought a lot of that brutality on themselves.

        • gpldan

          By this logic, it would have been okay to nuke a mid-size US city over the U.S. firebombing of Dresden.

          It’s a very slippery slope as to what constitutes enough problem that nukes are justified on a civilian population. But the brutality and savagery of the Japanese soldier I do not think fits the bill.

          If there is an argument to make, it’s that a conventional invasion of Japan would have killed more civilians and been far more brutal than the nukes. Even that is pretty tough to accept.

          • CanadaBear

            Agree about the nukes. Don’t agree about LeMay going all Sherman on them. If you torture and kill POW’s on a regular basis you don’t get a lot of sympathy from me when it’s your turn in the barrel.

          • SC Dave

            My opinion is that without the horrors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, as exposed in John Hersey’s book Hiroshima, the use of unimaginably more potent weapons some years later on population centers would have been considerably more likely.

            With that in mind, it has always been my thought that the bombing of those cities may well have saved the world from infinitely greater horrors – and hence they died not in vain.

            As my comment on the USA – Japan thing, listen to this. Pretty sure I’ve posted it before but It’s worth another visit, I promise. I tear up every time I hear it.

            1000 Candles, 1000 Cranes
            (Rich Prezioso)

            My grandmother had three sons
            She dreamed about her children’s children
            Then came 1941
            Only one son would see the war end

            Joseph died marching in Bataan
            Frank on the sands of Iwo Jima
            The day the bomb destroyed Japan
            She thanked God and Harry Truman

            She blamed the godless Japanese
            For having crushed her sweetest dreams
            One thousand candles for my sons
            Every day I will remember

            In Illinois, far from her past
            Miss Nakamura still remembers
            She was six when she saw the flash
            That turned the world to smoke and ashes

            Mother taught her daughter well
            Run from the fire to the river
            There she found a living hell
            But not a mother or a father

            Though she survived with just a scrape
            Her family vanished into space
            One thousand suns, a thousand cranes
            Everyday I will remember

            [interlude]

            My grandmother had three sons
            She never dreamed she’d have a daughter
            But at the age of eighty-one
            She met a nurse named Nakamura

            It was a question only meant
            To make some talk and pass the hours
            About a picture by the bed
            A photograph of two young soldiers

            Hatred and anger stored for years
            Slowly melted into tears
            One thousand candles, a thousand cranes
            Everyday I will remember

            I’ve a picture in my mind
            Of two women slowly walking
            August 6th, 1985
            Walking to church to light a candle

            And they once asked me to explain
            Why grown men play such foolish games
            One thousand candles, a thousand cranes
            Everyday I will remember

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            It’s the ‘Let’s kill all the buffaloes’ theory. American propaganda at it’s peak… the winners version. PS: Logic says it’s bullshit and it was only a ‘live’ demonstration for the russians. It was a stupid play as the russians called the bluff and the war is still ON.

          • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

            I think the official reason was that a mainland invasion would have cost 500,000 American Soldiers. At least. We saw how many lives just taking the outlying islands took (you know, the footage were Japanese soldiers were moled into the ground and jumping off cliffs instead of surrendering).

            Gotta remember too that THEY declared war on us by Bombing Pearl Harbor.

            They were WARNED beforehand. They didn’t want to believe.

            We NUKED them, and they STILL didn’t want to surrender. They never surrendered in their entire history.

            They were training their women and children how to fight with brooms.

            The second nuke finally convinced the Emperor who visited the city and said it looked like a small sun exploded.

            And guess what, a lot of the generals STILL didn’t want to surrender. They even tried a coup arguing that the Emperor was possessed.

            That was AFTER two nukes.

            Finally the Japanese had to ‘bear the unbearble’.

            The U.S. was actually quite merciful.

            Some hawks wanted maximum damage and argued to nuke Tokyo and other more populated cities. Some wanted to demoralize them and wanted to nuke Kyoto and other cities with spiritual shades.

            Some in the military wanted to nuke the entire country. Why take chances, right?

            (These were the same factions that wanted to nuke the USSR after we were done with the Japanese).

            I’m not for nuclear annihilation, but even the Japanese know that it was their fanatical militarism that called for nukes.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Oh, they were no doubt the most brutal of all sides in WWII, C-Bear. No arguments there whatsoever – Nanking and all of that … but the civilians … it’s the little folk who pay the highest price. War is brutal anyway, but I do agree with you that the Japanese were particularly brutal in the way they carried it out. Curtis Le May was brutal too though, firebombing every city ? It’s like throwing a grenade into a room full of people in order to kill a rat.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I submit that the “Largest Genocide In History” title goes to Mao Tse Tung.

        • SC Dave

          Some estimates place Mao’s “score” at more than Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot combined.

      • MB30SD

        russians in general are fucking rough people. Dodgy fuckers.

        I passed up on sleeping with a solid 10 russian chick who was literally right off the boat, cause I kept picturing waking up in a bathtub of ice without one of my kidneys. One of my buddies still won’t forgive me for passing that up, but russians skeeve me out… funny, because I’m half russian. Ha!

      • johnnywad

        Guess we must just be really super duper lucky. Its funny to me that in general we are painted as either evil or stupid by most of the world. And yet, everybody wants in and wants our luxuries and conveniences. Oh, and fuck Japan. Forever. Even the Chinese were scared of them. So yeah, it had to get pretty ugly to shit that shit down.

        • CanadaBear

          Johnny that’s where patriotism gets the best of you. There are tons of people in the FREE world that have no desire to go to the US or have anything to do with the country. It’s like that idiot senator in ND that STILL wants to put up a fence on the 49th parallel. DUH dumbass, Canadians aren’t interested in entering the country illegally. There are tons of countries that have basically the same standard of living or better. All of us that live in FREE countries are lucky as hell.

          • Cormonster

            Who you rooting for in Olympic Hockey? Land of the free and home of the brave, and Mom’s apple pie? Or a Maple leaf and the Queen? (Sugar maples make the best campfires, by far.)

          • johnnywad

            Agreed CBear. But its been a while since you’ve lived in the states huh? Most estimates right now put the illegal immigrant population of the US at 12 million. That’s more than 1/3 of the total population of Canada. The 49th parallel is open. You got any problems llike that up there? Are they middle class folks packing up and leaving cushy jobs in free countries? No. But make no mistake, if you want your best shot at a chance to make a life, you’re coming here.

      • Cormonster

        I was talking about the communist era Irish, and not the people. The political classes and party members got a great education, not sure on the rest. Any “achievements” made from 1917-1990 didn’t improve the living conditions of the average Russian or person from a Soviet controlled country. I can’t think of a single product that I own that was made in a Soviet block country. And I don’t see much difference between fascism and communism. Both ideologies believe that the state is more important than the individual.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Oh, not having a go at you bro, I was just always mystified at the whole USA v Soviet thing looking at it from the outside. Two sets of folk with different sets of brain-washing, that’s all. We’re all brain-washed no matter where we’re born. The kids born in America definitely got a better deal though ….

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      I’m sure that at the US Olympics the indians and blacks will get center stage. Also looking forward to those atomic bombs reminders. The president of the USA will make a beautiful speech… of he is not assassinated before that.

      • Cormonster

        There’s plenty of things the US has done that I’m not proud of, like slavery. Native populations got screwed throughout the Western Hemisphere. Not proud that the US has the highest incarceration rate in the world thanks to the War on Drugs.

  • Trac

    “Love when I lose followers for being pro-human. Funnels out the shit heads” Jeff Hughes.

    What’s your position on abortion Jeff? How pro human are you really? How about a diatribe on how indifference to innocent life, social economic status or ignorance allows a women or a man to be anti-human when it comes to this topic?

    You go too far. I’ll tell you one thing, being on this blog has definitely helped me change the way I view some of these topics and for that I’m grateful. I actually even think that it has helped me become more respectful of those with opposing views but I can spot hypocrisy when I see it. How do you apply your definition of love to the unborn children being aborted every day? Do you defend them as well?

    • Irish Sweetness

      I’m with Bill Hicks on abortion, Trac. You take a young woman/girl, who’s in no position to raise a child – either mentally or financially – now tell me who’s going to raise that child if she doesn’t terminate? An ill-equipped young madam who will likely blame that child for taking her youth and freedom from her the rest of its life? An orphanage where God knows what kind of evil will be perpetrated on the poor thing. The odds are not good for a well-balanced young individual in any case.

      I never really had an opinion on abortion growing up, I thought “if it doesn’t affect me, then it’s ultimately up to the woman who has to grow the thing inside her”. life is a miracle? Well, there’s millions of little miracles being born into townships and ghettos, and any of a million bad situations, all the time. Nothing really miraculous or good about that.

      It’s not til it hits your own doorstep that you really figure out your own response to it all. I never wanted children.Not even close. No way – hands up, I’m a selfish bastard. Give me a nice pad to live in, a decent first-person shooter, good tunes, nice glass of wine, full fridge, some good spliff, and I was good. Then shit happens. You end up in a situation with somebody you really don’t want to being a situation with, and then one day they hand you an ultrasound photograph with not one, but two life-forms in it. Abortion never entered my mind. Doing right by all three was all that mattered from that point on. Once you see the ultrasound, things change. It’s hard to do it at that point. And it’s a hard man that can terminate twins.

      Man. On this thread I’ve defended aliens, Russians, and Pro-lifers.

      But Michael Sam? Nah. Fuck him. I earn just over a thousand dollars a month trying to teach kids who know their parents are going to pay their way through everything in life. Sam will be a millionaire before he’s done anything, and most of it will be on the back of loving the cock. Sign me some of that and pass me the Kleenex.

      • Trac

        Love is without hypocrisy.

        • gpldan

          Courtney Love? You must be joking.

        • MB30SD

          Rhetoric… and propaganda.

          • Trac

            Nope. Conscience that hasn’t been seared or minimized. That is my truth. Life over liberty. That’s how I see it.

          • MB30SD

            and you’re welcome to it. It’s def the ‘pure’ version… but that’s rare.

            Most time Love comes with an agenda, or human nature, or a litany of other impurities.

            As an example… your love for the 8LB baby jebus comes with the inherent/unspoken ‘knowledge’ that providing that unconditional love comes with certain… benefits… like a free ticket to ride the lightning bolt into the sky once the shit hits the fan down here… riiiiiiiiight?

      • MB30SD

        you’re a good man Irish… problem is, how many of those are there when an accident happens? I am 100% on board with the first half of your post.

        I also know where you’re coming from re: the sonogram. That said, I believe you and I are high functioning and are sadly the exception (even though mine were planned).

        I am 100% in support of pro-choice… but the way we ‘govern’ it is inane, like most things the gov does. It should be accepted on a case-by-case basis. If the child was a mistake and is just going to have a miserable life with a 17 year old mom who doesn’t want the child, or being passed around foster homes to be used for handouts or molested, then allow the abortion. If it’s a rich 23 year old who got drunk and knocked up, well, too bad, welcome to responsibility.

        this is obviously a VERY personal item with many factors… waving a yes or no wand over all of it, like both sides want to do is ridiculous.

        • johnnywad

          Good points MB. Respectable approach to talking about it.

        • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

          What if that 23 year old rich kid is Justin Beiber!?

          Oh nooooss…

        • Irish Sweetness

          Exactly, it’s a case by case basis, the blanket right-or-wrong thing I don’t get. Every case is different. The rape victim pregnancy is always a thinker.

      • johnnywad

        I’m proud of you Irish. And further, how do you even own a device that allows you to see the internet o. $1000/month?

        • Irish Sweetness

          Oh computers are cheaper over here, but I bought mine four years ago. Played World of Tanks on a student’s laptop today and the little bastard gets 6X the FPS I do. That’s all I ask for in life, some game-playable video card – but hey, a lot of people just want some food, right?

    • johnnywad

      I’m with you Trac. Children are the most precious thing there is. Period. The fact that some are born into bad circumstance is not a reason to kill them. Many are terminated simply out of convenience. For me its very easy to define. If you simply take no action, a live child is born. If you take action, regardless of the particular point in time of a pregnancy, a child does not exist. Its wrong. Its the most wrong thing there is. The fact that there is sometimes no good place for them to go as Irish says, is not a check mark in the “for abortion” column. Its a check mark against us, all of us. Were we as committed to saving these kids as were are to seeing to it that rapists, murderers and the like a comfy and not I’ll treated in prison, the problem would already be solved. My aunt and uncle adopted a child five years ago. It took forever and a mountain of cash just to make it happen. Stupid.

      • johnnywad

        To be clear, this is no reflection on my thoughts on homosexuality. Just backing you on abortion.

      • MB30SD

        my bottom line for me with things like this is that I try to never use political or religious beliefs.

        Use common sense… ALWAYS. What makes the most sense… just use that answer.

      • Cormonster

        Here’s a cool story johnny. A friend of mine got pregnant at 19, and the guy ditched her. She didn’t think she was responsible enough at the time to take care of the baby, so she put her son up for adoption before he was born.

        Fast forward 23 years. My friend was married with twin boys, but wanted to meet her other son. When she called the adoptive parents, they were delighted and said he wanted to meet her. She’s been very close to her son and his parents ever since, and loves watching her grandkids. It turned out great for all involved.

        • johnnywad

          Thanks for the story Cor. That’s about as well as things can go from that starting point.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Yeah, I don’t get the amount of cash it takes to adopt kids. Finding a suitable home for them will cost something, sure, but some of the figures you hear about ….

    • SC Dave

      All I will say about abortion is that it is a choice in which I have never been directly involved. And I’m grateful for that.

  • NewBearInTown

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/11/joe-banner-mike-lombardi-out-in-cleveland-ray-farmer-new-gm/

    Whoa!

    Like most Americans I’m sure, I wish I wish I had a billion dollars and could buy my own NFL team. I run a business and I understand that its harder than it looks. But wow some of these guys are just terrible.

    I’m not saying I’m a huge Jerry Angelo fan, but he never made us the laughing stock of the league. I can support a team that’s struggling to win consistently. I don’t think I could support a team like the Browns or Dolphins.

    • gpldan

      The Factory of Sadness. LMAO.

      • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

        I envision being a Brown’s fan is like being that small boy playing with a broken beer bottle at the end of Pink Floyd’s “the Wall”

        • Irish Sweetness

          Some pretty cool history on the Browns though. Jim Brown. Otto Graham taking them to the big game ten years in a row and winning 7 of ’em. There’s worse teams than the Browns.

    • CanadaBear

      Who knows? Maybe it was the correct decision. Can’t imagine how much cash Lombardi gets for doing next to nothing. Not exactly a resume builder. You’re right NB, it would be hard to be a fan of this team. The Bears under Abe with Bobby Douglass behind center was close to this bad. Very embarrassing.

    • MB30SD

      reading, the the comments, most browns fans seem to be happy and think this was a good move? But sadly, they probably don’t know what a smart move is… since they’ve rarely seen one.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I thought Rex was laughable. It still amazes me that he actually thought “this is our guy”. SMH

  • MB30SD

    It’s mo-nin, you should be fixin’ brefass o sumthin

    (Is this bub rub’s grand mama?)

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Peppers and Tillman must be sent away. This is an offensive league so who needs defenders ?

    • MB30SD

      Is that sarcasm barb? From the ukrain? impressive comrade.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        you’re a nice english dude, mate. PS: It’s not sarcasm it’s a joke… like all those ‘experts’ that keep on fucking my brains with all kind of stupid shit. The truth is that 3/4 GMs in the NFL are plain stupid. The Bears GM is part of the other 1/4.

        • MB30SD

          I’m South African by birth and American by upbringing… but same diff right?

          Agree on the GM thing Barb

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I’m romanian, from Romania south of Ukraine, near Serbia. I was born a comrade, but that ended quickly. PS: You black ?

          • MB30SD

            I know, I was yanking your chain my man.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            And I was playing along. It’s what I do to keep it interesting.

          • Cormonster

            So do you check the African American box on surveys?

          • MB30SD

            before they caught onto it, we used to in High School. In fact, we’re convinced one of our buddies got into Cal by doing this. He was the whitest jewish kid you’ve ever seen.

            Now they change it to things like African American (Black).

          • Irish Sweetness

            I love African-American box ….

          • Irish Sweetness

            … and half-Russian ???

            You got a sister ?

          • MB30SD

            No, a brother… still interested? (NTTAWWT)

  • DaMurph

    Ok, I’m coming out here as an example to all us old guys on here! No hero accolades needed Jeff, it’s tough but here it is I’m 60 years old and my dick doesn’t get as hard as it did when I was 30! There, I said it, and I don’t fuck as often either. Hold the pats on the back guys, I know it took a lot but I wanted to be the first old timer on the blog to put it out there, Maybe Al could do a Burma Shave and be a “hero” too! Seriously I don’t give a shit how you get off, and I don’t know why anyone needs to know or who the fuck should care. Hey Commissioner, will a dose or two of semen be a banned substance? Extra T? Inquiring minds want to know. SMH!

    • CanadaBear

      Same boat Murph. Still works just not the same number on the Rockwell Hardness Scale! Don’t need pills but if I did I wouldn’t hesitate to take them. Better living through chemistry. 61 and still getting laid. I’ll take that!

      • MB30SD

        do kegel exercises every day (look it up). Pills are fun, don’t need them, but they can be… fun.

        • DaMurph

          Kegel whilst erect? Or not? Do you Kegel in front of a mirror? Hahaha

          • MB30SD

            if it helps you can give yourself a little chub. They’re really uncomfortable to do at first, but you get used to them fast. I do them 2-3 times a day and you can do them anywhere.

            My pee stream has gotten stronger and the wood has also gotten a bit, ehem, woodier. Haven’t had any dick problems yet, but thought I’d try them and see what they do for me… supposedly they also give you more… control, but I haven’t had the opty to try it out yet.

            Oh, one other thing… not sure if it’s just me but doing them makes me horney. Not sure if it’s the motion or what. Kinda like rubbing your dick without using your hands. (yeah, I know it’s TMI, but I don’t really give a shit. Ha!)

          • Irish Sweetness

            Dude, you do kegels? Tommy the tank, bro. Just tear the handle out of your stomach, train it like an athlete.

          • DaMurph

            Hahaha! My man MB!

      • DaMurph

        Another hero, Canada comes out to join Murph!

        • Cormonster

          You guys are courageous! My Dad used to tell people there’s two things that could cause him to disown me and my brother: catch us in bed with another man or be Packer fans.

          • DaMurph

            Hahahaha!!!! I bet the Packers fan was his last choice!

  • MB30SD
  • MB30SD

    this is what happens when an iPhone fanboi writes and article on how to make samaung better: http://money.cnn.com/2014/02/11/technology/mobile/samsung-galaxy-s5/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

    make the phone prettier? DO ‘fun stuff’ with the camera’? Jesus. SMHF.

  • gpldan

    Jeff says: Why I’d do everything in my power to restructure with Julius Peppers: I don’t see a significant DL upgrade on FA market w/out murdering cap.

    NBIT or 4Ever just showed us that it can be done for a $4M hit to the cap over the next two years. That is not “murdering the cap.”

    Julius is done, man. Please do not pull a Kreutz on Peppers and stop being Johnny Status Quo.

    • NewBearInTown

      $4M a year for two years. Restructure would allow us to spread that over 3-4 years, but that’s not what Jeff meant.

      Jeff means that all of the free agents on the market will cost too much money to sign. Jeff is wrong though.

      You have to think about the Peppers money in two parts. $8M is dead money, we’ve already paid it out. $10M is new money payable this year if Peppers is on the roster. Cutting Pep requires renegotiating that $10M into a smaller number.

      But Peppers will not likely not give that much of a discount if he’s already taking a pay cut. We can’t pay Peppers $10M to play this year, but we also won’t convince him to play for $1M. He’ll be cheaper than Greg Hardy or Michael Bennett, but there are likely upgrades available if we let the market play out.

      Peppers won’t sign a first day deal, he’s too old. You cut him, make him an offer of maybe $3M/yr to sign now, and then let him test the market. If he tests the market, we might get someone younger for the same $4M+/yr that he wanted, that’s the risk he takes. Or we might not be happy with the prospects available in our price range and call Pep back.

      • Johnathan Wood

        his salary for this year is slated to be $14M, not $10M.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Why? How much is Mike Bennett gonna go for?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Jefe, man. I think you’d stick us with a worse team than Angelo. I wouldn’t sign Peppers for $2M – he’s taking the spot of some young guy who’s hungry to make a name for himself and can use 100% of his body.

  • MB30SD

    in my efforts to keep all you cavemen abreast (see how…) of new tech, I give you the Dash: http://www.bragi.com/

    Yes, I am buying these when they come out

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    Like I said earlier, been watching a lot conspiracy stuff and martial arts. This is a martial arts I came across I never heard of before (I watched “Man of Tai Chi” which isn’t going to win any Oscars, but does have some cool fight scenes).

    The martial art is called Pencak Silat, and it’s fucking lethal.

    http://youtu.be/m2py-S8tcng

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      And if anyone smirks, “that shit won’t work in real life”, check this cop out giving a demonstration. Then ask yourself, “how could I beat that dude?”

      http://youtu.be/YGyETocZsP0

      • MB30SD

        Dude, Bakara rocked the silat. I fucked my buddy up many a time with him.

        My favorite was noob smoke though…. unstoppable.

        • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

          haha, Baraka was Silat!? never knew. Just always tapped his punches to do the blade thing.

          Noob smoke was cool, though I liked body slamming fools with Jax.

          • MB30SD

            Yeah, if you get good at NS you can basically fuck dudes up continuously for an entire match. Basically unstoppable. My buddy used to get so angry… it was funny.

          • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)
          • MB30SD

            man, you don’t realize when you’re playing how gnarly those are. sheesh.

            ths guy’s not very good, but you get the idea: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_tLck65CoE

            I loved the one where he comes up from the smoke in the floor

    • Irish Sweetness

      Check out Tony Jaa (real name Jaa Panom) -he’s the Thai Bruce Lee mixed in with Jackie Chan, and I don’t throw Sifu Lee’s name around lightly. Movies to download: Ong Bak, Tom Yam Gung.

      A taster : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSMjAZvUGFM

      Hit mute.

      Look like Danny DeVito but still fancy Martial Arts? Systema is for you – I love this guy Mikhail Ryabko, check out his unching videos too.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    I would keep Tillman and sent Peppers packing. It’s not that he is bad, but you can’t pay him 14 mil to have him play at a 5 mil level. There are always other guys… it’s just that they don’t have known names. This is a very similar with the Boozer axing by the Bulls. They will pay him 16 mil not to play for them. Also there are a lot of things you can do with 9 mil in cap space if you know your shit.

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      I’m leaning toward just cutting Pepp. It was nice, Pepp, but time to move on.

      The main reason why is we all witnessed last season how far Emery and Stein can make $5M go.

      I think he signed D.J. Williams, Anderson, and Slauson for under $5M last year.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        You could have signed Edelman for 2 years at $5M. PS: Ok D.J. Williams, Anderson, and Slauson, but let’s not forget about Josh ‘Big Time’ McCown.

        • Irish Sweetness

          umost important signing has yet to be made indeed – Mr. McCown.

  • gpldan

    This just in:

    Jerry Angelo hires Gabe Carimi to mow his lawn. “I still see potential there”, he’s quoted as saying.

    The Carimi draft pick is where he fucked the Ravens off the clock and made John Harbaugh want to fight him.

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      That was embarrassing. I think that’s the moment when the McCaskey’s had a coming to Jesus moment. They can stand mediocrity, just not being embarrassed.

  • gpldan

    Jeff tweets:

    Majority of NFL locker rooms are urban blacks & southern/rural whites & blacks. They share something: their pastors tell em gays are evil.

    I have the face of evil right here:

    http://blog.pe.com/breaking-news/2014/02/09/rialto-3-8-million-lawsuit-settlement-announced-at-inland-area-masses/

    What was that line about hypocrisy again?

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      San Bernadino and Rialto are GHETTO.

      That’s where all the criminals from Compton go because they can no longer afford rent and want to get away from their probation officers.

      I’m pretty sure that county has one of the highest homicide rates in the U.S.

  • Still a Doug Plank Fan

    No. The word “hero” does not apply to people who announce they have sex with others of the same gender. It’s nauseating to hear that term applied in this case, or cases like it. Of course, because I don’t believe homosexuality is okay, it means I think they are all evil. Also bullshit. I’ve known heroes – real ones. A man who plays football who also says publically that he prefers sex with other men is not one.

    On abortion, I’m pro-life, period. It’s wrong to just paint pro-lifers as idiots with blinders on, as though we think every born child will have a happy upper-middle class existence. No, I don’t. But if they’re dead, they have no chance at anything. At all. Ever. I think THAT is wrong.

    And yeah, I think keeping Peppers is the right thing to do, and Jeff is definitely right that without him, we’d have been infinitely worse last year.

    Peanut? Said it all already. A true through and through Bear, and a good man. I’m glad he wears the Navy and Orange, and no, I don’t want to trade him in on a younger, dumber model.

    NBIT – I’ll take the bet on McCown, and yer right, my bet penalties were too vanilla. Pick one of yours, and post it up. I’m in.

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      Well, Michael Sam himself never said he was a hero, but I DO think it takes courage to announce that he’s gay before even doing the combine.

      Regardless of what anyone believes, locker rooms do frequently throw around a lot un-p.c. insults, and there’s tons of testosterone/ a-personalities/ machismo and yes, homo-phobia.

      Why do you think other NFL gays never came out?

      Now, is it the same type of courage as storming the beaches of Normandy? No, but it is still gutsy, more akin to what Jackie Robinson or Muhamad Ali went through (though I doubt Sam will go through what they went through, but we’re going to have to wait and see on that).

      • Still a Doug Plank Fan

        I know. I was calling out Jeff (and anyone else who uses the word “hero” in this context), not Mr. Sam.

        I think Rosa Parks was courageous. I think children who testify against their abusers are courageous. I could go on. But speaking of Rosa Parks, the NAACP issued a scathing statement against GLAAD a couple of years ago for comparing themselves to blacks suffering in the segregated south, etc. GLAAD actually mentioned Jackie Robinson in their speech, as I recall, and the NAACP was not happy. They called them out on it, and they were right.

        No one is lynching gays in America (I can’t speak for other countries – I don’t have voting rights elsewhere), no one is burning down their homes and raping them, beating them, or killing them en masse. Yes, there are some crimes against gays, and those are deplorable. People who do so should wind up in jail cells. I will not ascribe the word courage to Sam or anyone else who decides to announce their sexual preference. I do believe he should be free to do as he wishes, regardless of the fact that I believe it is wrong.

        • MB30SD
          • Still a Doug Plank Fan

            Did my sentence, “Yes, there are some crimes against gays” sound too weak or dismissive?

            Perhaps it did. However, I will state, again, that those who commit such crimes should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. I simply do NOT believe they suffer nor will ever suffer the on the same level as Black Americans did, and so do not think they belong in the same conversation. If that sounds naïve or dispassionate, then I am not being articulate enough.

          • MB30SD

            no, just thought I’d drop some knowledge, as the kids say.

            I’ll never understand the religious/conservative right’s perspective, it’s based on faith and emotion and intolerance not common sense in my mind. But you’re more than welcome to it, as long as you’re not on TV, in congress (like it matters really), or in a place of power to mindwash youth.

          • Still a Doug Plank Fan

            Well, you did make me think. I’m aware that I do cop out when it comes to issues like the unspeakable suffering of gays in Africa. In that respect, I’m a typical American, in that I live in a bit of a vacuum. I’m not proud of that, when I think about it. You know, I write a check to some charity, and think “Well, it’s all I can do”.

            Fact is, I don’t know what the hell else I CAN do. For the record, I find it hell-fire level wrong that genocide is committed against such people. Who are they hurting? Michael Sam (since he started this whole thing) shouldn’t have to put up with any shit because of what he is or prefers, etc.

            I wouldn’t go have lunch with Rush Limbaugh any sooner than I’d do the same with Bill Maher (or, pick your own right/left examples), because I don’t think either of them leave room to change and evolve. I admire the hell out of Elton John – I think he has his head on straight, and lives as he wants others to treat him. Him I would have lunch with. SOB can play a piano like no one I’ve ever heard before, too, but that’s irrelevant to the topic at hand.

            Do kids really say “drop some knowledge”? God, I’ve got to get out more…

          • MB30SD

            hahahaha… no, it’s more of an early 90’s rap reference.

          • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

            Checkity check yo self before you wreck yo self!

          • MB30SD

            bang! bang!

          • Irish Sweetness

            Dude, you need to chill out with some Keith Jarrett some time …

          • Still a Doug Plank Fan

            G’morning Irish…I knew when I woke up you’d have left a note or two on the table overnight…and I have no idea who Keith Jarrett is, but I’m sure he’s a fine fellow.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I’ll give props to Sam for being the first to come out, and especially before the draft.
        Whoever drafts him, you’ll be able to cut the atmosphere in that shower with a cock … I mean a knife.

    • gpldan

      On abortion, I’m pro-life, period. It’s wrong to just paint pro-lifers as idiots with blinders on, as though we think every born child will have a happy upper-middle class existence. No, I don’t. But if they’re dead, they have no chance at anything. At all. Ever. I think THAT is wrong.

      What do you think of the primary thesis (based up with considerable empirical data) in Freakonomics that the reason the crime rate in America has steadily declined in the last 20 years is due to abortion being legal?

      • Still a Doug Plank Fan

        To that, it can also be argued in as nebulous though statistically realistic fervor that we have also aborted geniuses, the curers of disease, those capable of bringing peace, and societal “heroes”, if you will. I don’t think the argument that we’ve “reduced crime” by legalizing abortion holds water when evaluated on its merits.

        The Death Penalty. Ah, yes, the great conundrum. The answer is that I do in certain instances (yep, I know that opens a WHOLE BIG CAN OF WORMS). I believe if you commit murder, then you have made the inarguable statement that life, to you, is of no value. Therefore, prove it, and die. We have no right to murder. None. To defend using deadly force? Yes. Other death penalty-worthy crimes are more a personal opinion than ones I believe can be successfully argued in a court of law. I despise those who abuse children, and those who commit rape.

        Could I line those people up and pull the trigger on them myself? Maybe, in some instances, but not always, no. But for murder, yes, I could be the one pushing the plunger on the lethal drugs, or throwing the switch, or pulling the trigger. That the death penalty may or may not deter future crimes of murder is, to me, of no consequence. If you kill someone, if you murder them, again, prove what you believe – that life is of no value. Die yourself.

        I know this won’t matter one wit, and you didn’t ask, but I also believe marijuana should be legalized across the board for recreational as well as medicinal use. I don’t use it for either, but I believe if people want to, they should be allowed to.

        I also believe that gays should be allowed to marry, and be afforded the same rights as every other human being on the planet. It is, in short, none of my business what others choose to do with their sexual selves.

        Then again, I’m also the guy that thinks in terms of tradition when it comes to the Bears, and believes there are players who personify our history in great ways.

        So there, fire away.

        • johnnywad

          Welcome to the off season. Worth sticking around isn’t it?

          • Still a Doug Plank Fan

            Heh! You did prep me. And yeah, I’m glad I stuck around this year.

        • Irish Sweetness

          #1 You don’t get to sit in a small cell for the rest of your life contemplating what you did with execution. .A life of misery is taken from you. Make them think and reflect upon it. Make them pay. Execution is letting them out, in a sense.

          #2 Hypothetical ; Guy is high on PCP, alcohol and meth. Things went astray and he was feeling very low. He wakes up and he’s apparently killed somebody, maybe his best friend. He was screaming all over the bar that he was going to do this guy – clear pre-meditation. He remembers nothing. Does he still deserve to die ?

          • Still a Doug Plank Fan

            To #1…that person took another’s ability to hope, even their darkest hours. No, they must lose their life, and the ability to contemplate anything.

            To #2…Murder is murder. A life is gone. It has to matter. We have nothing else.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I have never heard one intelligent argument FOR the death penalty.

        The most tenuous is the same old “it costs more to keep a prisoner locked up for life than it does to execute one”. Wrong. Add up the court fees and laywers on death row appeals, and you’re into the millions very quickly. Executing people costs a lot of money, bigtime. States with the death penalty still have the highest murder rates / it’s not a deterrent yada yada … and I love that the Supreme court basically changed the Bible commandment “Thou shalt not kill” to “Thou shalt not commit murder”

        You can let somebody out of prison and pay them compensation if you got it wrong, which happens. Can’t bring ’em back to life though ….

        • MB30SD

          agree… if there’s indelible physical proof like multiple eye witnesses, DNA evidence, clear video and/or audio tape, etc… we should go to the North Korean model.

          Next day take ’em out back and put a single $.02 bullet in the back of their head. Throw the body in the incinerator. Done deal, cheap and easy. Justice served.

          Oh oh… maybe if there’s family involved, let them pull the trigger if they want?

  • MB30SD
  • MB30SD

    rabbit, # 22

    #15 for me: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/extra-mustard/photos/1302/westminster-dog-show-through-the-years/01

    That’s actually what I named mine, cept he has 2 fs in his name.

  • MB30SD

    NB, Jon, $… can we get your input on this mock draft please

    http://foodsided.com/2014/02/10/nfl-candy-mock-draft/

    I think our pick is total BS. Although I really like the player, as do my kids, personally I think we need a known entity in rd 1 and I think we need to trade down and get rd 1’s star from the lions.

    • SC Dave

      I dunno… gummy bears are da bomb! And they are BEARS after all.

      • MB30SD

        I agree, especially the hard German Haribo ones (it’s alvays ze geermahns)

        I was just going on the best candy. For me it’s something like:
        1. Butterfinger
        2. 100 grand
        3. Twix
        4. KitKat
        5. Snickers
        6. Whatchamacallit
        7. Skor bar
        8. Milkyway
        9. M & Ms
        10. Milk Duds (I kinda mostly stuck to candy bars, but this is one of my favorite overall candies)

        South African Candies:
        1. Peppermint Crisp
        2. Crunchie
        3. Smarties
        4. Flake (pronounced flakey)
        5. Mint Aero
        6. Nestle fruit pastilles
        7. Maynards wine gums
        8. all cadbury chocolate

        • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

          Butter finger? Outrageous!

          Whatchmacallit and anything with chocolate covered almonds. That’s the good stuff.

          Oh, and Nestle bar.

          http://youtu.be/gHbYOwkJPpA

          • Cormonster

            About 80% of all honeybees in the US are shipped to California every winter to pollinate the almonds for a few weeks.

          • MB30SD

            good fact corm

          • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

            I began watching a doc on netflix about that. Interesting, but I just couldn’t sit through the whole thing. Gotta check it out again when I’m more in the mood.

          • MB30SD

            here’s a more entertaining bee one for you my man: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ1eAM8CChc

          • Cormonster

            I just watched the video while listening to a trippy Greatful Dead jam from 1970 with Duane and Gregg Allman. The music and video seemed to go together well.

          • MB30SD

            welcome.

            new thread btw

          • Cormonster

            One of my best friends is a pollination expert. He strongly believes this is the main cause of colony collapse disorder among honey bees. Bees are stressed from shipping, and being in close proximity spreads disease.

          • MB30SD

            makes sense

          • Irish Sweetness

            Did somebody say Honeybears ? C’mon Phil, do it right .. if you want a Lombardi you got to have the sideline trim. Ce n’est pas vrai?

          • MB30SD

            dude, seriously? Butterfinger is the best fucking candy bar in the history of the world.

            I know you probably like nuts on everything (HAHAHAHAHA), but common maings. Get your fucking nuts (and fruit for that matter) out of my dessert!

          • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

            http://youtu.be/V82Xa6xJhcU

            Didn’t think I could combine the gay thread with gummy bears and german cold war theme, did you?

            You were wrong.

          • MB30SD

            W…..T…….F?!?!?!?!

          • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

            lol You never watched “Hedwig and the Angry Inch”? Philistine…

          • MB30SD

            no, but it looks terrifying

          • MB30SD

            new thread btw

        • Irish Sweetness

          Haribo do awesome stuff – nothing has ever surpassed the simple brilliance of sour cola bottles, sprinkled liberally on your favorite ice-cream.

          Dude, none of that stuff is SA – they’re all owned by Mars/Nestle/Mondelēz (who own Kraft / Cadbury’s …) Mars even own Pedigree Chum and a load of other famous brand names. The food world is really small, and getting smaller.

          Apparently the real crisis number for population is ten billion souls. The Bilderbergers know this, so how are they going to cut it down? I’d say in our food. People have to eat right? It’s hard to ‘vaccinate’ the planet, but everyone eats. All of your corn comes from Montesanto. Your chicken comes from like two companies …
          They’ll fuck us up with food …
          …wait … there’s somebody at the door …..

          • MB30SD

            Yesh, the companies are all british or american, but the chocolate is made in SA… and tastes VERY different from American made chocolate.

            And yeah, big agg is all about money and not giving a shit how they’re killing all of us. Well, most of us. Montesanto is evil.

  • MB30SD

    “I’m going to have my bodyguards kick your ass”

    http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/538141/20140211/justin-bieber-news-blake-griffin-rumors-clippers.htm#.Uvq-MfldVDy

    Holy fuck I hope to god this story is true. What a little cuntbag that kid is, I honestly can’t describe my disdain.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Last word.

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