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Around the League Tweets – March 28th 2013!

| March 28th, 2014

ATL Tweets

Once again, this feature will fill the Wednesday void throughout the 2014 season and sneak in each week until then on random days. 

Around the League Tweets, Dayton Flying Since ’13! 1 of 10. If you change evaluation of a player based on pro day, you lose all credibility.

2 of 10. No two figures mean more to Buffalo Bills fans than the late Ralph Wilson & the seriously ill Jim Kelly. Tough week in Western NY.

3 of 10. Most Bills fans I know believed once Ralph died the hourglass would flip on the team in Buffalo. Would be a sports tragedy.

4 of 10. If you had an emotional reaction to goalpost dunk ban, I question your stability. Unless you’re under 12 this shouldn’t matter.

5 of 10. So you can’t use the N-word or dunk. Goodell would have a heart attack watching the basketball court near my apartment in Queens.

6 of 10. It is not a matter of when Mickael Vick replaces a struggling Geno Smith. Its a matter of when Geno replaces an injured Vick.

(Side note: I see no conceivable way Geno beats Vick out for this job during the summer, especially with the Jets current skill position talent.)

7 of 10. Reseeding playoffs would be 1st step towards diminishing greatness of divisional rivalries. Winning division should ALWAYS mean more.

(Side note: It will only be a matter of time where – in the spirit of “fairness” – propositions start coming in to do away with divisions altogether. It’s inane but it will come.)

8 of 10. Based on the Raiders moves to this point I’m wondering when they announce Vinny Testaverde as their opening day starter at QB.

9 of 10. Never seen guy divide folks equally like Manziel. Half seem to passionately want him discredited & half offended when that happens.

(Side note: Tebow was NOTHING like this. A minority of folks thought Tebow could play at NFL level and the attacks on him never veered toward the personal the way they have Manziel. I get sense half the football media will be feverishly rooting for Johnny to fail and the other half believe his success is a validation of the modern college game.)

10 of 10. DaBearsBlog is offering $1 billion to any person that guesses every winner of every game of the 2014 NFL season correctly.

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  • AlbertInTucson

    Answering question about Alan Page from last thread: He was @33 when he joined the Bears in ’78. From 78-81 he had 40 sacks.

    • tobijohn

      He also kept himself in incredible shape. IIRC, the Vikings didn’t want him anymore because he decided to play at a lower weight. He also was an overachiever. I believe he got a law degree and is or was on some state’s Supreme Court. I think the Bears’ old kicker Bob Thomas followed the same career path…

      • Bender McLugh

        had to look up IIRC…..man I’m getting old.

        • tobijohn

          I know I am. It’s only March and I’ve already covered my health insurance $500 pharmaceutical deductible. A few years back, it took until November…

      • Big Mike

        He’s an assoicate supreme court justice in MN. He lost about 30 lbs when he came to Chicago. I remember seeing thinking.. this is not Alan Page… Alan page is huge.

        • tobijohn

          He reminds me a bit of Dick (Richie if you were a Phillies fan) Allen in that he knew what was best for him, did his own thing and compelled people to judge him by his performance alone. They both made their previous teams look like fools for getting rid of them…

          • AlbertInTucson

            That was a HELLUVA first season he put together for the White Sox. Had box seats one night when the Sox beat the Yankees and hit lined one into the bullpen off Fritz (famed wife swapper) Peterson, I believe. One of the fastest homers I ever saw. Theother fast homer I saw was a Reggie Jackson (still with the A’s) liner into the right field stands off of Vicente Romo. Both at Old Comiskey, of course.

          • tobijohn

            You would have thought their was a death in the family the way I carried on that year he broke his leg…

          • AlbertInTucson

            Those were the days with Wilbur Wood winning 20+ games and throw 350+ innings. Even starting BOTH ends of a double-header.

            Sox swept the Yankees a doubleheader one Sunday afternoon in Allen’s first season in Chicago. Chuck Tanner rested Dick in the 2nd game. Allen pinch-hit in the bottom of the in 9th of the 2nd game with the Sox trailing and promptly launched a Sparky Lyle slider into the left field granstands to win it.

          • tobijohn

            I remember that doubleheader that Wilbur started both games!

            http://www.hardballtimes.com/tht-live/40th-anniversary-the-day-wilbur-wood-became-a-legend/

      • AlbertInTucson

        Page & Thomas are both Notre Dame Alum.

        • tobijohn

          Well there ya go. Nothing like a good Catholic education to get you ahead of the pack. So how come it didn’t work for me?

          • AlbertInTucson

            Seriously, if you went to Notre Dame or Harvard, Yale, Stanford, et. al. it gives you entre to a LOT of opportunities via their respective alumni networks.

          • tobijohn

            I guess the same can not be said for Loyola Academy…

          • AlbertInTucson

            Yeah, Illinois-Chicago not so much , either.

    • Big Mike

      So two years older than our new guy Mullet man. Do we have a nickname for Allen yet? I’d take 10 per year. That was also on fewer passing attempts.

    • gpldan

      THey should let a DT wear #88 again. But only if he’s a real bad ass.

  • I guess Trestman wants a QB who is a leader and plays “efficiently”. So, time to check out late round QBs who’s intangibles are off the chart and is accurate (probably at the expense of an arm).

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/28/marc-trestmans-looking-for-particular-skill-set-for-backup/

    • NewBearInTown

      Here’s an intriguing prospect.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeqahH1z6vY

      Jeff Mathews, QB, Cornell.

      Ivy League, so he’s got the intelligence. Solid physical skills. Very accurate and efficient. Just doesn’t have the vision at this point in his development. You bring him in and let him watch film as the backup, where those skills will improve without the fear of a DE coming after you.

      • tobijohn

        Is there room for him on a 53 man roster or can he be safely stashed on the PS?

        • NewBearInTown

          I doubt anyone signs him off the PS. But he’ll likely get drafted. If we want him, we need to spend a pick to get him.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        George W Bush went to Yale. Harvard Business too. Room temperature IQ.

        • MB30SD

          at best… why in thee fuck are you up right now?

          Wait, are you 12 hours ahead?

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Yup. Kids are still up. They go asleep about 3.00 a.m. if I’m lucky.

          • MB30SD

            Dude, WHAT?!?!?

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        sorry NB, that would be a enormous waste of a draft pick. He could study this shit til the cows come home but there is a reason he went to Cornell and not Michigan to play football.

    • gpldan

      AJ McCarron.

      • Johnathan Wood

        Aaron Murray. But those are both mid-round guys

  • MB30SD

    is it just me or does seeing goodell’s face make you want to punch it?

    • Shady

      He’s got… lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll’s eye. When he comes at ya, doesn’t seem to be livin’. Until he bites ya and those black eyes roll over white…

      • MB30SD
        • Shady

          I was actually referring to the picture of the Twitter Bird up above… Lifeless eyes… black eyes…

          • MB30SD

            uhhhhh… ok. I was talking about rodger goodell.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Who is Manziel and why should I give a shit until some team actually drafts him and make him play at least 1 snap of real football. I’d rather talk about Jordan Palmer.

    • MB30SD

      do it barbarian.

      Btw, you know who he is… I feel like I’m trolling him unfairly, but I really don’t like the kid. We’ll see if he’s the real deal in a few months I guess.

      • Big Mike

        MB I think you may be wrong on Manziel. I believe he will grow up. I don’t know why. Generally I hate punks. He’s been that. But I see something in him, that says “ahh I was just f’n around, time to to go to work”.

        • MB30SD

          I hope so for his sake mike. I got’s no dog in this hunt, but like you, I hate little pricks like he’s been.

          We’ll find out soon enough. I don’t see what you see.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Guys…could you non troll my ‘fuck hyped superstar college jocks; it has nothing to do with the Chicago Bears or real football’ post with a debate over this future average QB at best that’s known because ESPN wants you to know him ? There’s nothing more stupid for someone like me than american college sports… I’m a badger, Go cats, Bama, Sooners. Please stop it. Or tell me about that Northwestern (I met a Professor from Northwestern 3 years ago who came to my University so he can teach us the ‘american way’. I leveled his ass with a one-two combination of questions) QB, who’s the most interesting college player I ever heard about. Manziel should walk his dog(s) as far as I’m concerned.

      • Cormonster

        Over 100 million stupid Americans love college football and basketball, like me. My three favorite sports are pro football, college football, and college basketball. Go Bucky Badgers! Fuck them Arizona Wildcats tomorrow night!

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          I’m a silver leopard. It’s my stage name.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        College ‘the american way’? From the docos I’ve seen, it’s a professor lecturing to 150 students with almost zero interaction. They have no time to correct written papers so exams are mostly multiple choice and poor students get graded up to B because you can’t fail everybody. It’s a clueless establishment that looks to the USA for an Educational model, listed 17th internationally. You get a better education in Estonia.
        There’s Australasia, Finland, Canada, then everybody else ….. China are head and shoulders above the rest of the planet when it comes to education. On the moon, in fact.

        Interesting that Qatar are fifth from bottom. Being a wealthy country does not guarantee results.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Estonia is superior shit. Also Finland. Those dudes fought a war all by themselves against the russians.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Finland is amazing. And there, it’s the chicks that approach YOU in bars. Their government works. It’s probably the coolest country on the planet.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            When kids/teenagers study for they drivers permit, they teach them rally level skills. And that’s part of the exams, also. How fun and smart is that ?

          • MB30SD

            tell me more about this bar thing… in finland… with the girls.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Apparently. I’ve never been, but I’ve heard/read that the roles are reversed in Finland, and that it’s the women who act as instigators (aggressors?) in matters of the heart/cock/pussy. Women do the choosing. Viking chicks used to fight alongside their men and are not to be messed with.

            Disclaimer: Women also do the choosing in the west, but they make you think that you did it.

          • Cormonster

            A childhood friend works for Tesla Motors and spends a lot of time in Norway. Apparently the Norwegians are crazy for that car. My buddy says they get treated like rock stars when they go out wearing Tesla clothes. He said it’s the same in Norway where the women hit on the guys.

      • bearsfantillend

        people know about him cuz what he has done on the field. He was the first freshman to win the Heisman. We don’t need ESPN to know who he is. I personally think he is an arrogant fuck but its the off season and not much to talk about except college prospects.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Pee Wee football is indeed a very serious proposition.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      You mean … JOHNNY FOOTBALL !! GP changed it by deed poll.

      • gpldan

        fuck yeah!

        • MB30SD

          Stop encouraging it. Bust.

  • MB30SD

    now this is a platform I can support (get it? Hee hee)

    http://www.mandatory.com/2014/03/21/this-weeks-20-funniest-tweets/12

  • MB30SD
  • MB30SD
    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      She might be.

  • MB30SD

    ok, ok, last one. For GP, this remind you of anything at first glance: http://www.davidbrownautomotive.com/speedback/

    • gpldan

      site says it exceeded it’s bandwidth. damn you hot links!

  • IBNO

    I think the hate for Manziel is that he’s such a prima donna douche. Tebow is/was an overrated douche, but at least he was a sincere overrated douche.

    • CanadaBear

      Good call. Tebow was definitely likeable. Not worth the drama from the fans but likeable.

      • Johnathan Wood

        he would still be in the NFL as a backup somewhere if he didn’t have such a cult following that created a circus sideshow wherever he was. That’s not worth it for a backup.

        Well, that and if he was willing to admit he’s not a QB and play TE/FB.

  • SC Dave

    Desean j a ckson released… our new slot? 🙂

    • He supposedly got released due to gang affiliation. Possible Hernandez 2.0. Don’t think he’s worth it, unless he signs very cheap.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Jered Allen has gang affiliations. Lot’s photos with him holding guns and dead corpses on internet

        • MB30SD

          Meat Siiiiiiide!

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Can he play S ?

    • SC Dave

      I was kidding, mostly. We dont need pos distractions.

  • Johnathan Wood

    Don’t get me wrong: I’d love Sammy Watkins in Chicago. But they’d have to give up their 1st and 2nd to even have a chance at that. Not happening.

    Plus they have two really good WRs due for new contracts next year + a young recent draft pick they like.

    • MB30SD

      it’s crazy talk man. it would be insanity and paramount to high treason. No unit is perfect, and when you’re as unbalanced as we were in 13, you simply have to address that side f the unit in a big way… even at the expense of O depth.

      Next year if things pan out, and with another FA period to use, hopefully we can go straight BPA in every round… something unfathomable in the angelo era.

      jeff.. you craaazy.

      • NewBearInTown

        There will always be a need. You’re never going to have a perfect team where you just get good players wherever.

        The Saints have done this though. They are clearly unbalanced, they have clear needs on D, and they draft a WR or a RB. Its an extreme approach, but the results seem to work out okay.

        • MB30SD

          i’ll trade them tucker for ryan. then we can see about the player side. i think coaches matter more than we discuss here too nb. and they do have breesus

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            He was fantastic. he changed that defense 360*. With a lot of key injuries. He played 4-2-5. No 3T by the way… surprise, surprise.

          • NewBearInTown

            There is no 3T in a 3-4 front.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            That’s not necessarily true, 3T just refers to lining up on the outside shoulder of a Guard, so you can set your alignment where you have a defender in that position even in a 3 man front.

          • Yes, but that’s like calling Bmarsh a slot receiver.

            True he CAN line up in the slot, and does, but it’s misleading.
            3T tends to refer to smaller, quicker, 1-gap penetrating DTs.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            you can have that guy in a 3 man front is all I was trying to convey. You could have a guy playing 3T in a 3-4 front.

          • NewBearInTown

            In a 3-4 front, if you slide the DE and NT over into 3T and 1T respectively, then you need the OLB to come down and set the edge in either the 7 technique or Wide 9 position. Meanwhile the other DE (5 tech) will often kick out a bit since the NT has moved into the A gap.
            If the 5 tech moves to match the OLB, you’re in a 4-3 front. If the 5 tech stays where he’s at, the other OLB will need to come down into 7 or 9 technique and you’re playing a 5-2 front, which is almost never seen as a base front at D-1 or pro levels. Meaning, the DE will kick out, you’ll be in 4-3.
            Now, you can have players lining up in the B-gap in a base 3-4, but at that point you’re going hybrid and probably calling a specific blitz package. That’s not a 3-4 base either – its a package front for blitz plays.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            They played 4-3 nickel.

    • NewBearInTown

      I am very skeptical of Watkins and I haven’t watched any tape. Justin Blackmon was supposed to be the next big thing recently and he sort of limped onto the scene. Wide receivers are really hard to predict in the draft.

      • Shady

        Watch the tape and then get back to us. Dude is special.

        • guest

          the consensus stud WRs the last 5 years or so have generally turned into studs. Dez, Green, Julio, Crabtree, etc. Seems to be one of the positions that’s easy to project, at least at the top.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          Bracket almost any receiver and they’re taken out of the game. No receiver is worth all that. Peanut did it single-handedly to the guy many consider to be the best in Megatron almost every time they met.

          • NewBearInTown

            Jeff’s point is, and I don’t disagree, if all three of our receivers are healthy, you can’t bracket them all if we line up in 11 personnel.
            And even with two receivers (Alshon and Marhsall), if both are dangerous its hard to bracket them both. So your comment holds less true there as well.
            Where you are correct, is when you’re Detroit and you really only have Megatron. And Jeff posed the scenario where Alshon blows his ACL in week 1 and Marshall basically becomes Megatron – the only good WR on the team.
            We draft Watkins, we’ve got a crazy 11 personnel package. And if Marshall or Jeffery goes down, we’ve still got two dangerous outside guys.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            That’s it though, we’re good with AJ and BM, tough to double both .. .and then Forte is open, Uni etc. Not saying that having three great WRs isn’t great, of course you’d want that – it’s not worth selling your draft for though. I think we can all agree that the defense needs help, moreso than the offense. The key positions are filled on O- no depth – but the starters are there and they’re good-great. We need that defense back that can win games when your offense takes the day off – like the Seahawks have.

            Taking the ACL thing a bit further, when one swaps AJ out for Cutty or Bushrod in that scenario, it gets even worse.

            IF (big if) .. IF Watkins was there at 14, somebody is going to overpay you to jump your spot in the draft. I’d take the overpayment over the player, always – he’s just flesh and bone who could break his leg in pre-season.

      • MB30SD

        I’ve been a clemson fan since the Ford days NB, he was a monster in college. There’s always a gamble that a college WR will not make the leap, but he def has the tools.

      • guest

        Blackmon actually has been really good so far when he’s on the field.

        • He has been. I was surprised. I thought he got overdrafted originally. Well, he DID get over drafted, but not because of his lack of talent (then again, maybe he ‘produced’ BECAUSE of the banned substances).

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          Averages 64 yards a game and a TD every 3 games. That makes him Greg Olsen.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Blackmon was Jeff’s guy ….Greg Olsen was the “key to our offense” etc etc.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Trading up for WR ? That’s ludicrous. Question: Would you draft Julio Jones for 1 first round pick and a 2nd round pick or Alshon Jeffery for a second round pick ?

      • AlbertInTucson

        Speaking of wide receivers, the Eagles just released Desean Jackson who, it turns out, is an even bigger idiot than we knew.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          As much as I don’t like dickheads on a roster, he’d be awesome for us in the slot. If he was relatively cheap and not looking for people to ignore the risk value, I’d give him a jersey. Likely he wants to become a NFCE player though.

          Rather than do the smart thing and leave it all behind him, he’ll be wanting to meet them twice a season and point to his bottom a lot.

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      Especially when this is a deep draft for WR. Cody Latimer from Indiana is a guy in the UDFA market that I would like to see brought in. He was working with BMarsh in Miami to get ready for the draft, he’s 6’2.5″ 215, so he’s a little short by our standards (hahahahhaha, it feels good to type that after the Jerry Angelo Midget era), but seriously here is NFL.com’s description of him:

      “A prep basketball standout, Latimer is a well-built, sure-handed, West Coast possession receiver whose hardwood background is evident in his leaping ability, body control and hand-eye coordination. Lacks ideal explosiveness, gear change and flexibility. Could be effective running slants and making contested catches to beat zone coverage and succeed in the red zone. Has a ceiling as a No. 3.”

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        We have a 6’5 receiver with great hands on the practice squad. I’ll razor blade my frenulum if we draft a receiver. Chris Williams will be the little slot guy.

        • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

          lol, Terrence Toliver and Chris Summers are not NFL WR’s. Fucking stop it Irish!!

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            And Marquess Wilson is? He who had done equally nothing? SMH.
            Chris Summers isn’t even on the roster, unless you mean CW – and he’s built to play slot. TT is 25 and looks good on film. I call bullshit on both pooh-poohs.

            TT is back on the roster btw. #81.

            So if we draft a WR (to keep), we’re cutting 2 from BM, AJ, DHixon, TT, MW, CW, EW. If we’re drafting a WR to throw into the mix, then we’re wasting a draft pick.

            We don’t need to draft a WR, we just cut Weems and that’s that.

          • bearsfantillend

            he has done about as much as Ford has at RB. Made some plays in the preseason against 3rd/4th stringers plus a couple bums that are now pumping gas.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            So what? It takes 3 years to make a WR, how many chances has he had? He’s 25. What has Marquess Wilson done? Would you cut him? What has Jordan Palmer, the 30 year-old ever done? A couple of injuries to our WR corps and people won’t be ignoring him, I’ll tell you that. Hixon is a known quantity with no upside, TT is not a known quantity. He’s 6’5, he’s got excellent hands (college tape), he’s young, and he’s now on the full roster.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXlf9HZ7Fno

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Marquess Wilson played a lot of snaps last year.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            He’s a skinny ass mofo who needs another two years.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            His skinny ass saw the field a lot last year. That’s work, talent and trust behind those snaps. This year some of those routes will command throws. He is a baller and he;’ll make plays. then…more balls will be thrown his way. You’ll see.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      It would be insanity even for a team that NEEDED a receiver.

  • Shady

    If by some miracle Watkins dropped to us at 14 it would be hard to say ‘No’ to that kind of talent. Would fit perfectly. Again, getting defense from crap to average? Almost done. Getting offense from good to great? Sammy Watkins and another year in Trest’s offense.

    • It would make sense if Bmarsh wasn’t the defacto captain of the offense, basically being the drill Sargent and whipping the offense into shape in MIA as we speak.

      Signing Watkins and letting Bmarsh walk would save like $10M in cap space the next few years, but Bmarsh is getting re-signed.

      I believe in depth (that’s why I have no issue drafting a CB), but IF say, Bmarsh goes down, then Alshon looks ready to be a #1WR, while Wilson slides outside, and we can always pick up someone like Joe Anderson for the slot (heck, did Bennett sign anywhere yet?)

      If anything, we need a 2nd TE, maybe TE Ebron? IF Black Uni goes down, we’re fucked there.

      HBs can be picked up on waivers year round. They won’t be Forte, but I think Ford and a late round HB can do the job (still wouldn’t mind Blount).

      • guest

        Blount just signed with the Steelers

        • dang. Well, hungry under-drafted HB it is.

          Time to check out the tape. I love watching HB tape. OG tape, not so much…

      • tobijohn

        What about a halfback that’s good with protection and picking up blitzes? That’s big but it’s really big with Trestman. Wasn’t that the rub on Ford last year?

        • Most of the time Tobi, ALL rookie HBs struggle with pass protection and blitz pick up. But usually that’s a big deal for third down backs, and Forte will handle that most of the time.

          But some HBs are better at it than other. I just posted a small HB list, and HB Charles Sims seems to excel in pass protections. He might be a HB we can draft later as Forte-lite.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          I mentioned Carey and Freeman on the last thread. Both around 5’9, stocky/built, good at picking up blitzers, mazy/explosive in the run game. 3rd/4th rounders.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Makes zero sense shady. Bmarsh. Alshon, Watkins, Uni, Forte. Cutty would just ignore the last four as we are all aware. It’s overkill. If we lose an Offensive Tackle for the season, our passing game is in the shitter.

      • Shady

        Somehow I’m comforted by your disagreement.

    • johnnywad

      The problem with the defense going from good to average this year is the number of spots filled by old warriors and guys on one year deals. Phil has to put some young talent in the pipeline on that side. If he can manage 2 real live starters (with one being a safety) and some quality developmental players at CB and DT out of this years draft, I think he’s a lot closer to having the luxury of looking at guysblike Watkins. Linebacker is a big deal too, but he’s already looking at CD, Bostic, Greene and maybe even Washington as a stand up 3-4 look OLB. Gotta see if any of those guys pan out first.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Exactly, our LBs are all works in progress, they just need to learn and be put in the right position to succeed e.g Shamus is probably a mike, Greene/Washington are outside outside pass-rushers etc. Conte (and formerly Major Wright) are not works in progress, they have been found wanting, and Conte even regressed.

  • IBNO

    I’m leery of 1st-round WRs, even “can’t-miss” prospects. No one thought David Terrell would be a bust. Or 2/3 of the WRs the Lions took.

    Especially if this is a deep draft for WRs, and especially because there are still positions the defense desperately needs in the draft, I’d like this to be an all-defense draft with the exception of a Center and perhaps some late-round developmental/depth talent.

    • It’s a very deep WR and HB class. I may not trust Emery for drafting D, but between him and Trest, I am confident that they can find a quality WR, HB, C, and QB later in the draft, or as priority UFDAs.

    • gpldan

      Terrell was supposed to be the 2nd coming of Anthony Carter.

  • Here’s some Rotoworld summaries of the ’14 RB class.

    Carlos Hyde

    “NFL Films’ Greg Cosell believes Ohio State’s Carlos Hyde
    is capable of being a “foundation” NFL back “if you’re going to build
    your offense around the run game.”

    “He’s 230 pounds, he’s got quick and light feet,” Cosell
    said of Hyde. “He’s got some shiftiness to him. Some deceptive
    elusiveness. I think people will compare Hyde to a Le’Veon Bell, even
    to an Eddie Lacy. Although I think that Hyde is a little more laterally
    explosive than Eddie Lacy. Maybe not as purely powerful as Lacy. …
    He has an excellent combination of burst and wiggle and some natural
    power.” We expect Hyde to appeal to Ken Whisenhunt’s running back-needy
    Titans, perhaps as early as the No. 42 overall pick.

    Lache Seastrunk, Sankey, Carey

    After studying their college tape, NFL Films’ Greg Cosell
    lumped Baylor’s Lache Seastrunk, Washington’s Bishop Sankey, and
    Arizona’s Ka’Deem Carey into a group of spread offense-type backs and/or
    rotational runners.

    “If you’re going to run as your foundation offense, a
    three-wide, one-back spread-type offense, then you can play I believe
    with the Lache Seastrunks, maybe a Bishop Sankey, maybe a Ka’Deem
    Carey,” said Cosell. “If you’re going to line up with you know, 12
    personnel, one back, two tight ends, or two backs and one tight end, I’m
    not sure those guys can do that for you on a consistent basis.”
    Seastrunk is one of the most gifted natural runners in this year’s
    class, but stands just 5-foot-9, 201, is awful in pass protection, and
    was rarely used as a pass catcher. He’s like a poor man’s David Wilson.

    Charles Sims

    NFL Films’ guru Greg Cosell stated on the Ross Tucker Podcast that he can envision NFL teams likening West Virginia RB Charles Sims to Bears two-time Pro Bowler Matt Forte.

    This has been a common comparison among draftniks, but
    Cosell doesn’t study prospects until the NFL offseason. “I don’t think
    he’s quite as smooth and fluid a runner as Forte,” Cosell said of Sims.
    “He doesn’t have sort of that natural fluidity. He’s a little choppy
    and a little stop and start. But he’s got really good acceleration. He
    can get to the perimeter. He’s a really good receiver. So he’s got
    that runner-receiver multi-dimensional skill set that brings to mind a
    Matt Forte. And I don’t think he’ll be a first-round pick, but I think
    he’s an intriguing prospect.”

    Terrance West

    After studying Towson RB Terrance West’s game tape, NFL
    Films guru Greg Cosell believes the small-school back is a “fascinating”
    prospect who “certainly has the skill set of a foundation runner.”

    We’ve been impressed by West’s size-speed combination and
    open-field jump cuts. He ran 4.54 at the Combine at 5-foot-9, 225.
    “You saw a lot of NFL runs and traits,” Cosell said of West’s college
    tape. “He had patience, he pressed the hole, he had vision, he had low
    pad level. He ran through contact. He finished with power. I thought
    he had a very natural feel as a runner.” West projects as a third- to
    fourth-round pick. He’ll be a high-ceiling Dynasty prospect.

    Tre Mason

    NFL Films’ Greg Cosell has Auburn’s Tre Mason rated as the top running back in the 2014 draft class.

    We were impressed with Mason’s lightning-quick feet and
    lateral moves in our own tape study, but concerned with his tendency to
    dance and apathetic pass blocking. Cosell agreed that Mason is
    “laterally quick” with “outstanding balance,” and added that Mason is
    capable of functioning in either a power or zone running game. Mason is
    expected to be a second- or third-round pick.

    • I also don’t consider drafting a HB a “luxury”. Forte has been a cow-bell back since college. He’s extremely dedicated, but at some point, his body’s going to break down, and it’ll happen fast, like with Pepp or Rice last year.

      Ideally, we can draft a HB in the 4rth and beyond, someone like Mason, West or Sims, but I wouldn’t bitch much if Emery drafted one in the 3rd (depending on who else is still on the board).

      A HB in the 4rth, a C in the 5th, and a project QB in the 6th-7th.

      The rest, D.

      • guest

        history suggests Forte has 2 years left as an every down back. That’s when he’ll hit that magical 2400 touch mark that seems to spell doom for pretty much everybody.

        I would absolutely LOVE Charles Sims if he’s there in round 4. What better way to spell Forte than with a Forte clone?

        • Does the 2400 mark include college? Because some HBs weren’t the cow-bells in college. Forte was. That’s what worries me. He’s already had some history with nagging injuries, and we need to spell him immediately.

          Yeah, I’m with you on Sims. It’ll be interesting to monitor how HBs fare in the draft. There tends to be run at them in the 2nd round, but this year, who knows?

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          A guy that can’t run up the middle?

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      He’s 240lbs. Mentioned him on the last thread as a guy we could pick up as one of our second rounders if we traded down. If we addressed DL/DB with the first two picks of those, he might be a great pick for us.

  • AlbertInTucson
  • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog

    Do you know what would happen if the Bears traded up for Sammy Watkins? Every team on their 2014 schedule would collectively yell, “FUCK!”

    … followed quickly by “They sold their draft for a receiver …. when they had the best pairing in the league already… .DUMB-ASSES!!!

    • guest

      how’d that work for Atlanta going for Julio? Nicely when they stay healthy, but then a few injuries and they’re 4-12.

      The draft is like investing. You NEVER want to put all your eggs in one basket, because that blows up in your face in a hurry if it goes south.

      • MB30SD

        all about managing your downside risk… like everything in life.

        Guest… i don’t even know you any more.

        (is this NB?)

        • guest

          It’s Data. Just on a work computer where it’s not worth the effort of signing in.

          • MB30SD

            I knew it had to be one of you

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Does NB have a positronic brain?

          • MB30SD

            yes.

        • Sounds like GP from a Cayman island.

          • gpldan

            Not me. I like to offshore in Trinidad and Tobago, anyhow.

          • MB30SD

            nice. do you need a visit to shake hands and look into eyes? I can be your attachĂ© .. just to make sure shit doesn’t get too real. T&T sounds good right about now. I won’t even require a retainer, just travel, room board, and a little money to play the ponies. And by ponies I mean girls. Hot, young (24+) girls in bikinis.

          • gpldan

            plenty of those there.

    • Big Mike

      It would be in line with Emery’s past moves. A surprise, but not totally out of character. Good move? I don’t think so. But it would be fun for 1/2 the game.

  • tobijohn

    Hey MB, how do you feel about Danieal Manning rejoining his old team? Ah never mind, Lovie will probably snatch him up

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/28/texans-signing-chris-clemons-stocking-up-on-safety-help/

    • MB30SD

      yes please! (not for $4.5M)

      • CanadaBear

        I thought he played very well his last year with us. He’s made a lot of cash in Tex. I’d guess he will restructure and be gone next year.

        • tobijohn

          He might be gone this year as they asked him to take a pay cut…

          • CanadaBear

            I think he’ll restructure this year. It seems most players are willing to restructure once.

          • MB30SD

            problem is they already brought in Clemons… so even if he does restructure, he’ll could end up a back up. Don’t think he’ll go for that.

            I’d love to have him for the right price.

          • CanadaBear

            He was awesome to watch as a KR. Straight up the field, one cut tops. Fast and violent as hell. He is the anti-Devin and I mean that in both a good and bad way.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      They have a starting Safety pair. High pick + big money type of pair.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Eben Britten.

  • Trac

    Millsy and Kirwin have us drafting Donald and the Giants selecting an OT.

    • Johnathan Wood

      their GM really doesn’t do DTs in round 1. His usual MO is to get run stuffing from his DTs and pass rush from his ends, which he stockpiles like there’s no tomorrow. I could see them going Kony Ealy, or OL, or CB, or maybe even Mosley.

      But maybe he changes his ways.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Their GM is a winning GM. How about we copy him…or the Seahawks…or the Patriots… and get other positions done in the 1st round ? You know what I’m saying ?

        • Big Mike

          How about realizing that Emery is a winning GM. Donald would be a great first round draft choice.

          • Trac

            We’ll see how the draft shakes out. I hope we find our replacement for Lach somewhere in the draft this year. It’s gotta happen at some point. I watched some video on Gilbert yesterday. He’s a late 1st rounder/2 nd rounder in my opinion.

          • Big Mike

            Too much to hope for this year. What we need is for our first round pick to deliver first round value. A draft without any wasted picks. Then we hope and pray for a Briggs, or Jeffery, that gives way more value than their draft position.

            Pretty obvious statement. But all the jockeying and discussion about what position to draft, which guy to take in that position is conjecture. I think the Bears should take a DT. I also don’t believe you take a guy with injury history ion round 1. So in my opinion that makes Donald my favorite first round guy. If he turns out to be a stud, everyone here will agree taking a DT was a great decision. If he is a bust, oh my we should have taken a safety, or a wide receivers, or a QB.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            That’s what I don’t understand…why ‘should the Bears draft a DT’. That ‘should’ makes little sense to me.

          • Big Mike

            If they get a stud DT in the draft, they have built a potentially GREAT unit that has talent, depth, experience, youth. I like the idea of being dominant at the line. On both sides of the ball. I believe taking a DT in round 1 provides a starter this year. Or a guy that is on the field for a large portion of snaps. Rookie CB, Rookie Safety good luck putting a new guy out there. The drop off in DT’s by the time you get to 51 is dramatic. Bears don’t need the CB’s that are “great” in college. Peanut, Jennings, neither were “great” CB prospects. If the D-Line is great, We need above average safeties.

            My opinion is that our d-line is the closest unit to being great.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            That’s why we should have paid either Byrd or TJ Ward – no rookies at DB. Draft your DL, get younger on the line. I’d rather Byrd + rookie DE, than rook FS + Allen.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Tillman was 2nd round, pick 35. The ultimate point is that we don’t have starters at S and we need another starter at CB (nickel, injuries, next year).

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Yeah… Emery will pick the best TE rather than this Donald DT. I bet he learned the undersized lesson with his first ever draft pick as a GM. There’s a reason why he signed 7 DL in 1 month of FA. I see him drafting a DT in the 2-3rd round. It will be a big/quick DT. He’ll have beef.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Trest/Emery already said it’s a defensive-focused draft – that certainly has to mean #1 pick is D, or a trade-down. If it’s a TE then we’re just cutting our throats. Cutty has plenty of targets right now, and as we all know, he’s really only got one. He has to cut that shit out too.

            I’d love to play Cutty as a safety, you just watch BM and the ball will arrive.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Emery is a fucking risk taker. He is as unpredictable as they come. Remember…he drafted a OLB/DE for a top D when the team needed OL like water in the desert. If there is depth and he has options later and he wants another offensive weapon…he’ll make a plan and get it done. The Bears didn’t do Texas Tech pro day… that’s strange… is it a plan to draft that tall WR and keep a low profile about it ?

  • CanadaBear

    It will be interesting to see if DJ ends up taking a pay cut. You know the Eagles mgmt talked to him about changing his attitude/friends long before it came to this.

  • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

    Anyone want a 6’2 211lb safety (with the frame to beef up)?

    He’s already on our roster. Sean Cattouse. Plays ST too.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1158688-sean-cattouse-6-biggest-strengths-and-weaknesses-of-2012-nfl-draft-prospect

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      camp fodder

    • MB30SD

      same with the kid from dallas… danny mccray… also 6’1″ 225, runs a 4.48.

      Too bad they’re just camp fodder like yonny says, or just ST guys. Would be pretty amazing if one of them took a big surprise step and made it into the rotation. That’s some serious size and speed at FS, too bad he seems not to be a good football player (as bad as you can be making it 4+ years in the NFL… I’m looking at you fucking conte)

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Conte is camp fodder IMO. He just doesn’t get it. Let’s receivers get behind him, can’t run good angles. He doesn’t get it.

        • MB30SD

          you KNOW I agree with you 100% on this one.

          He’s the poster boy for not changing a football player’s career-long position only once he gets to the NFL. It just doesn’t work most of the time. You have to be a super athlete… or it has to be a somewhat minor change from DT to DE or vice versa. Going from corner to FS is not easy and it is a COMPLETELY different position.

  • Trac
    • Barb UMihai Mar

      They won that battle last 2 years too. Revis, Goldson, Nicks, Wright, Jackson. Last year everybody saw them as spring winners, because nobody knew who Michael Bennett was… and there where no bad grades because they left him walk.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        “There were no bad grades …”
        Just imagine me as a really hot teacher with a skinny waist and a rack to die for.
        Now write it out a hundred times on the blackboard.

        {modern kid: whts a blkbd?}

        It’s the thing over there beside the abacus and the dial-up telephone

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Again… I know… it just that sometimes instinct kicks in and you think about how to express your thoughts more than the correct spelling. Mental lapses that happen to me in every language I know: romanian, italian, english. It’s a personal weakness.

    • Big Mike

      Bears started with so little cap space, to get a B+ and do it in a way that leaves the team strong for 2015 cap space is sheer brilliance.

    • MB30SD

      classic lovie. winning some little battles, but always losing the war.

      That’s what happens when you’re the cap’t fucking crunch among real generals

      • tobijohn

        I’d appreciate it if you wouldn’t denigrate my favorite breakfast cereal like that…

        • MB30SD

          sorry tj.

          If I’m going sugar bomb cereal, it was always either coco pebbles or my alltime fav… cookie crunch. Little chocolate chip cookies for breakfast.

          Cut the shit out of the roof of your mouth though.

          • SC Dave

            To say nothing of the shit coming out of your molar cusps for the next week or two. Gawd, the shit we once ate.

      • He wasn’t actually a Captain. He inflated his resume, like most of us.

        http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/captncrunch-570×341.jpg

      • Trac

        I think he’s dreamy.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    overthecap.com says Allen’s cap this year is 3mil with 12 mil next year. So -they say- the Bears have 7,5 mil in cap space today. There’s space for some Brandon Love before the start of the season.

  • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

    Greatest QB of all time brackets on NFL.COM.

    Farcical. Steve Young loses out to Bledsoe in the 2nd round.

    Final bracket (8 QBs) includes : Terry Bradshaw, Bledsoe, McNabb, Marino.

    • Big Mike

      Bradshaw in the top 8? That’s insane. He was average at best. Gritty, tough, handled pressure, but so are most guys that make it to the NFL. Bledsoe? May as well put McMahon on the list.

      • johnnywad

        Irish is going to freak out with that one. You did that on purpose didn’t you?

        • Big Mike

          That and the fact that he belongs in no top 8 list. But you have to realize that I subscribe to the premise that QB’s are the hardest position in all of sports to evaluate top XX lists for. They are so dependent on everything else around them. It is nearly impossible to isolate variables. The Wins Against Replacement Stat from Baseball is whats missing. you can’t come close to replicating that.

          Look at our own Jay Cutler. We know Jay is a top 10 QB. You can see it. But you can only see it, because the guys on this board watch everything about the Bears so closely. The year the Bears actually had a professional level offensive line, the offense and Jay Cutler looked brilliant. Had he had this supporting cast for his entire time with the Bears’ there would be no question he was a top 10 guy. Cutler wins 4 SB’s with the Steelers team of the 70s.

          In my book, the most underrated QB in history, might be Archie Manning. That team had nothing, and all he could do is make them suck less. Put him on the Steelers and he was at least Bradshaw’s equal.

          All just how I see football.

          • johnnywad

            I couldn’t agree more. There’s going to be a knock on your door in a few minutes. It’s going to be Waffle with a bottle of Jameson and two big ass cigars. Don’t let him kiss you on the mouth and please give him my regards.

          • tobijohn

            Now that was f’n funny…

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            They did the bracket thing arseways.They had different silly categories. They should just have picked the top 32 regardless of era, and then seeded them. People tend to disregard the old-timers which is unfair. Otto was a winner – getting to the superbowl every year of a ten year career and winning 70% of them is insane – the fact that he played 60 years ago shouldn’t matter, hence the ‘all-time’ part.

          • Big Mike

            But again the criteria you applied to Otto was based on what his team did. That’s why evaluating the QB position is so hard.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            I have no idea if it was his team or him, I guess both. Impressive stuff though.

          • Big Mike

            Absolutely. Which is my entire point about evaluating QBs.

          • SC Dave

            You cannot claim in any reasonable scenario that Cutler wins 4SB with that Steelers team. It files in the face of the premise of your first paragraph. Too many variables.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Might have won 5 or 6 …

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        Bradshaw being categorized as elite makes me laugh. He was average at best surrounded by possibly the most amount of HOF’ers on a team for an entire decade.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          And nobody mentions McNabb?

          • NewBearInTown

            Exactly. Nobody mentions McNabb.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Bradshaw beat out Otto Graham who won 7 ‘superbowls’ and was runner-up three times in his ten year career.

        Jim McMahon has a Lombardi, which is more than Marino or McNabb have, plus he has a higher winning percentage than almost everybody in the last 8.

  • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

    Prediction:

    Unless we suffer catastrophic D injuries again we are going 12-4. We’ve improved the D, the offense will be in it’s 2nd year together and the team has started to come together.

    • CanadaBear

      My only issue is the schedule. It’s a killer. I’m thinking with good health we go 10-6. With another year of injuries, uh-oh.

      • johnnywad

        Hard to say, every year we see pretty crazy swings from the last. I think the Panthers are due for a reality check for instance.

        • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

          Panthers go 7-9 this year. They decimated their WR corps.

          • johnnywad

            And Cam isn’t really all that good. Despite jersey sales.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            i actually like him as an overall athlete but no man is an island in this league. they fucked that offense over the last month. It’s going to be Greg Olsen on every passing down.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            If they can find him …..

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            D-Jax to Carolina?

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        i just can’t see us losing 6 games unless we suffer catastrophe

        • CanadaBear

          I’m guessing we lose a couple of games at home. Not sure who but it’s a safe bet we don’t run the table at home. Away I’m guessing we lose to either Atlanta or Carolina. I think the Fudgies beat us in Lambeau. I’m almost positive NE and SF roll us at their houses. You can bet the schedule-makers will do us no favors. For sure we’ll have the max number of prime time games and somewhere in there we’ll get 1 or 2 teams coming off their bye. Also, we’ll get screwed by playing a really good team on a short week when they aren’t. Oh well.

          • johnnywad

            A month into the season, Chico was getting fired because they’ve sucked for a while. Panthers will step back this year.

            Falcons????? WTF?????

            Harbaugh could just as easily put that
            team in SF into a nose dive this year as win the Super Bowl. His crazy is starting to show.

            Patriots . . . . we’ll see. Sooner or later Bill is going to rub the shine right off of Tom’s knob.

          • If Gizelle hasn’t already done it.

          • CanadaBear

            She doesn’t strike me as being much of a knob-polisher.

          • That’s what the help is for.

          • CanadaBear

            We haven’t beaten either team in their house in forever. Why would you expect that to change? I’ll be shocked if the Falcons don’t bounce back. Not saying they’re going to be great but certainly not 4-12.

            Hope you guys are right and we are world beaters this year. I’m not there yet.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Schedules never bother me. If you want to be the best you’ve got to beat the best. Do we want to play soft teams all season and then get pantsed in the playoffs?

        • CanadaBear

          That’s true about a tough schedule. That’s why I think 10-6 is reasonable.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      2 injuries on offense and it’s curtains. In fact 1 injury at QB ….

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        i would like to somehow find out your opinions on going into last season with Jay and Josh. Everyone was flipping their shit. When you actually have weapons and scheme sometimes you don’t need Montana at QB for every game. Come to think of it, is Montana in fact Montana if he’s not surrounded by HOF’ers and his coach who invented the West Coast offense? Fucking invented the offense.

        food for thought.

        • to be, or not to be…that is the question.

          Montana wasn’t even drafted in the 1st, so, ya know.

        • tobijohn

          I agree. I was OK with Josh as b/u last year and I’m fine with Jordan as b/u this year. Trestman/Cavanaugh know what they’re doing. If they didn’t think or feel Palmer could get it done in a pinch, they wouldn’t have signed him this year.
          The sign of a good manager is knowing how to delegate. So, in the event that it’s necessary for him to come in, I’m going to make Marc and Matt responsible for getting Jordan prepped and supplied with a game plan that takes his strengths and weaknesses into account…

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          Nobody saw the emergence of McCown happening, but he had playing experience behind him, JP doesn’t.

          Joe was great. It wasn’t his line or Jerry Rice throwing that ball. If Cleveland draft Rice, is anybody talking about him now? I haven’t seen a better one since Joe.

          • SC Dave

            yes, rice more made montana than montana made rice. waaaaay more

          • NewBearInTown

            Megatron doing the same thing for Matt Stafford as we speak.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      There’s no way the Bears beat NE in Boston. The NFC South games will be difficult also.

  • gpldan

    Flash Poll: 2014 Rook DPOTY?

    I say the Giants draft Donald, make him an DE, and he gets 7 sacks.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Somebody drafts Tuitt, moves him to LDE, 12 sacks.

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        Irish, i like the kid too but he couldn’t even make that kind of impact in college against a bunch of kids that would never be pro material.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          We’ll see. On Donald, he needs to be extra special to play at that weight, and I think Emery knows it. If he’s there at 14 I can see Phil answering the phone a lot and getting somebody to overpay us.

      • this guy.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      It’s going to be that Clowney… Texans will draft him at No 1 and JJ Watt will gift him that dpoty

      • SC Dave

        those two together is fucking scary

    • NewBearInTown

      Controversial statement: Whoever Lovie takes in the first round.

  • On the Josh note, NO ONE was like “What a great back-up!” in the pre-season last year. Ironically enough, we were all gun-ho about Captain Checkdown Campbell.

    In fact, we all pretty much thought Josh earned the gig by simply being good friends with Cutler, and we were broke.

    I wonder if even Trestman didn’t realize what he had, or if Trestman is blaise with the QB position in general, thinking he can make anyone a stud in his system.

    • tobijohn

      I don’t know about blasĂ©, maybe pragmatic. You’re right about Josh. I was always OK with him as the backup but you would have been an idiot to bet money that he would do as well as he did…

      • oh, you even got the little accent! Tip o the coyote hat to you, sir!.

        Personally, I wanted someone better but once I heard how great he is in the locker room, I was ok with him. Figured if Cutty goes down, we’re screwed anyways. But boy did Josh ball.

        • tobijohn

          He played against other teams the way backup QBs usually play against the Bears. For some reason, it seems just about every time the Bears played someone’s backup, they made them look like the Offensive Player of the Week…

    • Shady
      • I like that you muted him. Now, if you can put one of those FBI pixalated squares over his face, perfect.

  • Trac

    My boy and I are gonna put a serious ass whooping on Lou’s tomorrow after we get off ze plane.

    Maybe I’ll see if I can find a quaint little Romanian dive. I’ve never had Barbarian before. He he.

    • MB30SD

      have fun trac.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      That’s what the romans thought 2000+ years ago. A number of cold blooded wars ensued for the next 200 years. They ended up having that romanian pussy… motherfuckers. Now we’re ROMANians. PS: Make sure you tip well… cheap bastard ‘son of God’.

    • DaMurph

      Coming to town? How long? What for?

      • Trac

        I threw out two personal invites to you Murph. Where were you when I needed ya?

        • DaMurph

          Never saw them, usually there is a notification when I get a reply and I saw nuttin!

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Hopefully the gnome didn’t strike…

          • DaMurph

            I’m sure he’s gonna be here more than one day, waiting to hear from him.

    • Cormonster

      Have fun TracDaddy. What museums are you hitting?

    • Are you going to recreate Ferris Beuller’s Day Off? That’s what I would do. Ohhh yeah, shicka-shika, bom-bom.

  • gpldan

    Here you are MB, the future of supercars

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4i8Cg1A754&t=19m20s

    1bhp per kg. 0-200mph in 20 seconds, making it accelerate about as fast as a top fuel dragster.

    • tobijohn

      I liked his comment on the Renault “It’s got drum brakes on the rear. It’s a proper French car!”

      • gpldan

        Harris is really killing it lately. He’s flying to be the first at auto shows, doing the most in-depth interviews where he mixes history and feel. He’s making his case as the heir to Clarkson.

    • MB30SD

      wow.

  • johnnywad

    Things going my way this week boys. 20 years ago, while working for my old man as a college kid, we built a few houses in a really cool new neighborhood. Large lots, dead end street, 100 year old growth trees. At that time, I was 20 years old, I kept thinking to myself how much I like the place. Its unlike anything around.
    So last week, all at the same time, we decide we’re going to move closer to school, etc. I put my house on the market, get a great offer on my place, and the last remaining lot in that neighborhood comes on the market. We bought it. Thing is, there hasn’t been a house built in there in almost twenty years. I didn’t even know there was property still available. Some guy bought it as an investment and sat on it. Well, he fell on hard times and couldn’t keep it. Unbelievable the way things work out sometimes. Counting my blessings this morning.

    • tobijohn

      Are you in the Chicago area? I didn’t think there were any 100 year old growth trees left…

      • johnnywad

        SW Michigan. About 2 hours out of Chicago

        • CanadaBear

          I’ve got a sister outside of New Buffalo.

          • johnnywad

            New Buffalo is a great area. Lots of summertime Chicago transplants. Great beach too.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Stray Dog, mmmmmm (known for their bacon-wrapped fried hot dogs)

          • DaMurph

            You in for that beer too burnt? Where in nwi you live?

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Valpo

          • DaMurph

            Right down 30 from me. I hit Valpo on a regular basis

          • CanadaBear

            Great T-shirts.

          • johnnywad

            If you presented me with a bacon wrapped dog turd, I would at least consider it. You just can’t miss when you wrap something in bacon.

        • tobijohn

          Haven’t really been following the Final Four thing but how wild would that be if it came down to Michigan vs. Michigan State?

          • Cormonster

            It would be MUCH COOLER if it was Wisconsin vs. whoever.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Die hard Michigan fan here. It would be crazy and the shit talking would be through the roof among the fans

          • Cormonster

            I love your coach Beilein, totally turning the program around. Plus you guys are loaded with good young talent. Good luck today. My one concern is your defense in the paint. Need to shore that up this game. May want to play a little more aggressive today and give up a few more fouls on drives into the paint.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Yeah, Kentucky is manhandling Michigan in the paint. However, the refs are letting Kentucky get away with the lowering the shoulders or pushing off of the Michigan defender. Good game so far though

          • Cormonster

            I was pissed during the title game last year. I thought you were getting mugged by Louisville throughout the title game last year and the refs let it slide.

        • tobijohn

          When I was still in the Chicago area (and married), we used to go up to Saugatuck quite a bit…

          • johnnywad

            Its beautiful up there. The scenery along the lake is about as beautiful as anywhere in the country

        • DaMurph

          I ride my bike up that way a lot during the summer

          • johnnywad

            Look me up Murph. I’ll buy you a beer. We’ve got some good little micro breweries around here now.

          • DaMurph

            Sounds like a plan Johnny

          • johnnywad

            I believe Jeff can get you my email. Or just shoot me a post here.

          • DaMurph

            I will. Thanks.

          • DaMurph

            Johnny, shoot me an email to this address and then ill hit you back with my regular email.
            Statelinereunion@gmail.com

          • DaMurph

            Got it Johnny, we are connected.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          I love hitting up the New Buffalo area w/ my buddies. We go bar hopping and head to the beach afterwards. Good times

          • MB30SD

            beach…. hee hee

    • MB30SD

      good for you johnny. I fucking love it when a plan comes together. Happens like that so rarely, gotta really take stock and enjoy it. Congrats my maingses.

      • johnnywad

        Rare. Like never. Soaking it up.

    • Cormonster

      Congratulations maing. What kind of trees? Oak?

      • johnnywad

        Yeah. There are some others too that I don’t recognize.

        • Cormonster

          You probably know this, but try to be very careful to not disturb the root system of old Oaks. They hate compacted soil from bobcats and heavy equipment. Seen too many old Oaks die 5-10 years after a new home is built.

          • johnnywad

            Will do Cor. Thanks for the tip.

    • Yeah, Congrats J-wad (that actually sounds pretty gross).

      I expect your 50 foot Bear flag will be installed post-haste.

      • johnnywad

        Indeed. I’ll make it my avatar.

        Confession time. I got the nickname Johnnywad in high school. I thought I was a badass if I had a roll of bills in my pocket. Having no money, I just stacked up a handful of ones and put a twenty on the outside. It worked for me. Sadder still, it had nothing to do with an immense penis. It would have been “ordinarywad”. And that’s just not cool

    • AlbertInTucson

      WHAT?!

      Your life doesn’t suck?

      How DARE you!

      • johnnywad

        I spend at least a small bit of each day wondering when the other shoe is going to drop. Everything is good Al.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Ohhhh, yeah. I hear you with “the other shoe.”

          There’s and old saying:

          “If you’ve got a good thing going, shut up.”

    • SC Dave

      Good story dude. Thanks for sharing.

      • johnnywad

        Welcome. Still some good stuff going on out there.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Everything for a reason. Enjoy.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “So you can’t use the N-word or dunk”.

    Spare me any whining over “The Dunk”!

    The reason it’s now been outlawed, like a lot of other things, is because too many NFL players are the emotional equivalent of spiled children and any, as good parent knows, children need rules and discipline.

    Nobody said “boo” about “The Dunk” until one of said NFL children has to try to take it to ANOTHER level, hangs on the crossbar and yanks it out of position. Now it’s another delay while they reposition the uprights back to vertical. Worse still, and the real impetus for outlawing it is it becomes a liability issue because if the upright decides to continue to topple sideways and whack somebody it could be LETHAL. These days, the NFL is hypersensitive to “Liability.”

    By the way, Jimmy Graham, if you even THINK about flaunting the “No Dunking” rule beacsue you don’t mind being the NFL’s ‘most fined player”, fine. Try it. Players who ignore the warning that is a fine (see headhunters) end up watching games for a week or too.

    As for the N-Word rule, players whined because an official let one fly.

    OK, fine. We’ll fix THAT too.

    Banned.

    Play the game.

    Watch your mouth.

    I know it’s an old-fahsioned concept but sports ARE supposed to promote SPORTSMANSHIP.

    This is the NFL. Not Queens. We have rules. You don’t like them? Take a hike and don’t let the door hit you in the fanny on your way out.

    They’ll be a line around the block trying to take your job.

    As usual, other than THAT I have no opinion on this matter.

    • CanadaBear

      They had to do something when the celebrations got out of hand. The old spiking the ball just wasn’t good enough. I actually liked some of them but of course most of them were just stupid. Billy “White Shoes” Johnson doing the splits will always be my fave. Walter’s monster spike is probably my second favorite for obvious reasons.

      • Cormonster

        I liked it when Walter would let an offensive lineman spike the ball.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Homage to “I realize this is a team sport and I didn’t score this all on my own.” Although, oft times, Walter surely DID do it on his own.

          • Cormonster

            I remember Revie Sory, Noah Jackson, and Dan Neal as a little kid, but can’t remember the rest of the OL.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Dennis Lick might have been in that group. I believe Noah Jackson’s nickname was “Buddah”.

          • DaMurph

            You’re right Al, Buddah. There was Ted Albrecht Mark Bortz, Kurt Becker, Dennis Lick Keith VanHorne, Revie Sorey, Dan Jiggets, and on and on

          • Cormonster

            Thanks for triggering my memory guys.

          • AlbertInTucson

            BADGER ALERT, Cor. See above.

          • Cormonster

            I forgot about Lick. I do remember VanHorne getting drafted by the Bears. He was an awesome right tackle.

            I never really followed the Badgers until I went to college there. They were never on TV. As a kid I liked Notre Dame for football and De Paul for basketball. My favorite college basketball player as a kid was Terry Cummings.

            I went to the local college for a few years then went to Wisconsin. That’s when I fell in love with the football and basketball team. I lived right by Camp Randall and the Field House. Went to the Rose Bowl game on January 1, 1994 when Wisconsin beat UCLA right after I graduated with my brother and some friends. JJ Stokes was unstoppable that day, but Wisconsin secondary and defense created a bunch of turnovers. Incredible game.

          • CanadaBear

            I posted this last night but the gnomes stole it. Buddah was one of my faves. He was always slightly out of shape (I’m being kind) and a loose cannon. Feisty as hell. When the Coach took over Buddah was the first decent/good player cut. Set the tone for the new regime. I hated the move at the time but looking back it definitely sent the msg to the team.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Bortz, Becker & Van Horne were all around for ’85 with Jay Hilgenberg and Jimbo Covert.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Lick was a Wisconsin Badger, Cor. Also a 1st round pick.
            Van Horne was a 1st rounder too, out of USC.

          • DaMurph

            All and I know our old Bear stuff, at least old to a lot of you guys.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            I think he was the guy that just beat McMahon home on his first long run as a Bear. Mac was stone last.

        • SC Dave

          No Tom Thayer? No Jay Hilgenberg?

          • DaMurph

            We were hitting on some of the pre super bowl and lesser known ones.

      • AlbertInTucson

        K.C. Chief Elmo Wright. if not the orginator of, certainly the popularizing infulencer of “The Spike”.

  • Was just checking out some of the highlights from our new toys. I got a Bear Boner.

    http://www.chicagobears.com/multimedia/videos/Lamarr_Houston_highlights/a5a11015-6b07-487c-bc5d-07842ac972ba

    Houston is impressive. 6’3 300 pound DE who can line up inside. He has pretty good speed for a big guy too, can get around an OT, which is a little surprising. This makes OTs respect the outside, and Houston has a very effective juke outside, shoot inside move. His hands are busy, and he smacks ppl around. He also dips very well when turning the corner.

    It’s awesome that he was a team captain too. We all know Allen brings leadership, and I think Munday was a SP teams captain (Data?). We know Izzy, Peanut and DJ are pros. A lot of the guys we signed bring a lot of intangibles, and that’s gonna bode well for all the young crop coming in.

    One thing’s for certain: Emery BELIEVES the Bears can win it THIS year.

    If he were truly gearing up for next season, he would have let Peanut walk (no one would have 2nd guessed it except jabrones) and wouldn’t have stole Allen from the ‘Hawks.

    • tobijohn

      Jordan Senn was a team captain for the Panthers…

    • gpldan

      That Houston film is very encouraging.

      • Houston looks like a maniac. Seems like at times it keeps him from setting his feet and making form tackles, but I like his attitude. Just what this D needs.

        • Johnathan Wood

          I wonder if going from a shit show in Oakland to a good team (possible contender) in Chicago raises his spirits and level of play even higher. Seems like they got him assuming he’ll be good (and paid him accordingly). Would be awesome if he could make the next step to great.

  • Just caught up a little on my march madness. So, it’s down to the Elite Eight?

    Who are the fav? Also, is hanging a piece of the net off your hat a new trend?

    • AlbertInTucson

      All FIVE of ESPN’s “experts’ picked Michigan State to win it all.

      Whoops.

      Both Millers (AZ’s Sean / AZ & Dayton’s Archie) knocked out of it yesterday.

      Both Michigans gone today.

      • Cormonster

        Al, do you think my Badgers have a chance in the Final Four? They play six white guys and only 2 black guys in their rotation. That’s like 3/4 or more of the white guys who will play in the rest of the tournament. I have the Badgers losing to Florida in the finals in my only bracket.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Well, they sure do if Kaminski continues to play the way he did yesterday.

          • Cormonster

            Keep an eye out for Sam Dekker or Ben Brust in the final 4 too. Dekker hasn’t done shit yet, but he’s incredibly talented and hopefully Bo loosens up the reigns and lets him play. Brust can also go on a roll from 3 and drive to the hoop.

      • Johnathan Wood

        I was doing so damn good until Friday night. If MSU had beaten Lousville in the championship game I probably would have won Bears tickets from Lance Briggs. Now my bracket is shot to hell. Dammit.

        • Cormonster

          ??

          • Johnathan Wood

            I had MSU over Louisville in the championship game. Called UF/WIS in the Final 4, and a lot of other stuff right. But when neither of your championship participants make the Final 4, that’s not good.

          • Cormonster

            Now I get what you’re talking about. In my only pool I have WI losing to Florida 68-64 in the finals, even though I want WI to win it all.

      • Shady

        How about those U of A students? Classy.

  • DaMurph

    Geez Trac, staying out late tonight?

    • How late are the mega-churces rocking til in Chi-town?

    • Trac

      Sorry Murph, was with family, and yes, I had a big day yesterday.

      My son and I will be in town till thurs morn. Tuesday we plan on going to the Shedd and the Museum of Science and industry on Weds. I’m on a working vacation so I have a somewhat flexible schedule so tuesday and weds is probably the best days to maybe get together for lunch if that’s possible.

  • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

    Any of you guys know this guy that lives in the comments section of NFL.COM? He’s unbelievable. Must be a Fudger.

    Wesuckchitown
    Bears should sign DeSean Jackson to a mega deal. They should sign DeSean
    Jackson and then next year, let bipolar Bear’ Brandon Marshall get lost
    from Chicago by being a free agent. The people around the person with
    BPD are the sufferers. Why do the Bears need the same type of receiver
    when they already have Alshon Jeffery? Alshon is a better Bear than
    Marshall can ever hope to be. That’s not saying much.

    2nd
    thought- You need human beings that are capable of making the tough and
    smart decisions to do the big things. It will NOT take care of itself.
    That strategy has failed for a long time in Chicago now.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      He couldn’t even get the medical condition right.

      • MB30SD

        I trust you crushed him. what a buffoon.

    • Johnathan Wood

      this guy is nothing but a troll. He wants a rise out of people. Trolls a bunch of Chicago sites, including the Tribune, and is on Twitter. Is a complete asshole who routinely tells people he hopes they get cancer and die. Best thing to do is just ignore him.

      • Chitown has a twitter account? That’s hilarious. That dude is the biggest fucking troll on the planet. Even the writers know about him. It’s probably Hub.

        • gpldan

          Hub’s alter-ego, his Mr. Hyde.

    • CanadaBear

      Complete waste of skin. If you’ve read one of his posts you’ve read them all. The exact same tone in every one.

  • MB30SD
    • Big Mike

      Oh… that’s what a safety is supposed to do. Now I remember.

      • gpldan

        The dislodge against the Panthers was textbook.

  • Trac

    Taking suggestions on the best italian beef in the City. Suggestions anyone? Tastiest, freshest = Best. lol.

    • DaMurph

      So many good ones, you can’t go wrong with Portillos. Should have access to one no matter where you are staying.

      • Trac

        Hyatt Place

        • DaMurph

          Just shot you an email on that email you gave me. I got nothin on that one I gave you, lost in email black hole?

        • DaMurph

          Which one? There’s a few in the area

      • Trac

        just emailed you

    • gpldan

      Al’s #1 Italian Beef.

      Best place is on Taylor in the Village.

    • Big Mike

      I don’t know if it is the “best”, but it is a high quality representation of getting a beef sandwich from a neighborhood joint. Open 24 hours. Biggest problem, is there are so many items on the menu, you might forget you came for a beef sandwich. 2nd biggest problem, a 3,000 calorie meal is not a stretch at all. I grew up right around the block from this place. Stopping in at 3:00am was never a great idea, but the food was always good.
      4126 W Montrose Ave
      Chicago, IL 60641
      http://chicago.seriouseats.com/2009/09/susies-drive-thru-chicago-illinois-polish-sausage.html

      • gpldan

        I’ve never been to Susie’s, though I know where it is. I should try it. Looks artery clogging.

        It’s hard to direct tourists to the really city folk places, like the 4100 west block of Montrose. But Al’s #1 is kiddie corner from the Rock n Roll McDonalds on Ohio, so nearly everybody goes there. More people actually visited that area when Michael Jordan had his restaurant there. It’s gone somewhat downhill in the intervening time.

        • Big Mike

          Actually, it’s pretty easy. Kennedy North to Montrose, turn right (east) go three blocks. Clog your arteries. I stop on my way to O’Hare sometimes. I’ve timed it, adds about 20 minutes to the trip from the loop to O’Hare.

  • gpldan

    If we wanted the real scoop on Italian Beef, we could tweet Biggsy. He starts his day with 2 of them.

    Here’s Biggsy on Trestman’s interview about a backup QB:

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-marc-trestman-backup-quarterback-job-20140327,0,166407.story

    Biggsy is topping 4 bills these days. As Sulu says, “oh my”. Now I’m afraid for him, he’s careening towards the John Candy exit.

    • Big Mike

      Dude was fat 2-3 years ago, now he’s like WTF fat…

      • Big Mike

        Watched that interview… he was out of breath just standing there talking

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