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Last Month of Season Lacks Significant Merit Without Cutler on the Field

| December 2nd, 2013

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The Chicago Bears allowed the Minnesota Vikings to thoroughly dominate them for the final fifteen minutes of Sunday’s pivotal NFC North match-up. Because of that dominance the Bears now find themselves needing to make up two games on Detroit in the standings over the final month of the season if they wish to play a postseason game, at home, against either the San Francisco 49ers or Carolina Panthers. The playoffs are now unlikely. More than unlikely. But with or without playoff implications, the final four games of this 2013 season are not without significant merit. But an overwhelming amount of that merit depends upon Jay Cutler playing quarterback.

Sunday’s numbers for Josh McCown probably looked thrilling to the fantasy-obsessed, casual NFL fan. 63.5% completion percentage. 355 yards. 2 touchdowns. Quarterback rating through the roof. But it doesn’t require Ron Jaworski holed up at NFL Films headquarters in New Jersey with five pots of coffee and a bag of the devil’s dandruff to see McCown’s limitations at quarterback cost the Bears the ability to sustain drives and in the fourth quarter cost them the ability to put the Vikings away. McCown’s success had less to do with McCown and more to do with a superhuman performance from Alshon Jeffery.

McCown is a wonderful backup quarterback and I expect him to be a tremendous presence in the Bears quarterback room for the next few years. But every game he plays, every snap he takes, every throw he attempts hinders the development of the Trestman offense in Chicago.

Three things happen in December in the NFL. (1) Good teams make their surge into the postseason. (2) Bad teams jockey for their position at the top of the draft. (3) Mediocre teams attempt to lay the groundwork for their off-season and season to come. The Bears, at 6-6, are the definition of a mediocre team but how much groundwork can they actually lay for 2014? Half of the defenders on the field won’t be around come the spring and a few of those MIA (Tillman, Melton, Collins…etc.) have uncertain economic futures in Chicago.

The offense is healthy! The offense should be growing into a juggernaut; becoming more dynamic and far more comfortable both as this season winds down and the off-season program approaches. But that growth is being stunted currently because the offense’s most important player – the quarterback – is watching from the sideline. Sure he seems engaged over there, debating with officials and whispering to the head coach, but he needs to be on the field throwing back shoulders to his high-powered wide receiving weapons in the end zone.

The Bears are about to engage a four-game stretch in the cold and conditions of Soldier Field, Cleveland and Philadelphia. Cutler returning would not only give the organization some long-term confidence but his arm strength and accuracy would give them above-and-beyond the best chance to win each Sunday. Winning seasons still matter, especially for first year head coaches. Giving Dallas and Philly hell, two teams competing for a division title, still matters for a team and organization with history and pride. Finishing the season on a high note, against your oldest rivals, in front of your dedicated fans, still matters. Each of these four games presents a distinct test for the Chicago Bears but the test results carry far less weight if the quarterback/pupil is someone other than Jay Cutler.

If Cutler does not return to the lineup and the Bears are eliminated from postseason contention, the Bears would be merely playing out the string.

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  • Sactowns#1

    First to say I must agree. Mccown has shown he cant get it done when his options are limited like in the red zone.

  • gpldan

    Also agree. If Cutler wants to get out there and play – then play him. Need to play him.

    McCown turns 35 in the offseason. Enough with the Gannon talk. He’s not a starting QB, he lacks the ability to hit deep corners of the field that both his big men can reach. He’s been a boon for my fantasy team and probably done enough to get a local announcing or endorsement gig after he hangs it up ala Jim Miller. He’s a nice man. Everybody likes him.

    But Cutler is where the team needs to be, and training camp goes a lot better if you come off a few wins at the end with him at the helm.

  • Trac

    There is still a pulse. Granted, not much of one, but one none the less. Until the final whistle of the season blows, the game must go on. Personally, Cutlers agent would be wise to do everything to keep him off the field. Cutty’s stock has more risk of going down than up at this point. What if he re-injures himself? I wouldn’t be surprised if Jay wishes he hadn’t of tried to come back early because in my opinion, it in no way helped his contract situation.

    • gpldan

      If he’s medically cleared and wants to play – why do you not play him?

      Injury is always a possibility. He’s got to be able to pull the ball down and run like he used to. Barring that, he’s not ready and you injure the team.

      • BillW

        Maybe Trestman is afraid to play him because something unique might happen.

      • Trac

        Contract year? Maybe the damage is done already, who knows? He better be 100% if he does suit up.

        • CanadaBear

          Trac the contract year thing doesn’t fly with me. If the Bears don’t pay him somebody else will. He’s getting his $15 mil (or more) from some team whether he plays another down this year or not.

          • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

            Absolutely. The Raiders are going to have about $77M to spend according to some estimates. Considering their track record at drafting QBs, and that their GM used to work for the Pack, I would wager they would scoop him up without blinking an eye.

            Cutler would be a good fit in the Black Hole too. If we don’t sign him I would like him to go there (I would say Cleveland but like Cutler too much to wish that on him).

  • BillW

    I agree with Jeff on this one – in both regards. The Bears win that game yesterday if Cutler played. I meant to look it up but 3rd down conversion yesterday was 2-11 and I think it’s been pretty bad under McCown despite the gaudy passing numbers. I blame that more on the play calling but McCown probably can’t see how/when to change plays either like I assume Jay can.
    But more importantly you do have to see just how far Jay and the offense can go before making a very tough decision. If they can score 28 avg in wintry conditions with Jay, then it’s settled. If they can’t or he gets hurt yet again, well it at least leans the other way.
    Without him in their, they are only guessing. Emery had no problem firing a 1-6 coach; I suspect he’d have no problem letting Jay go if he can’t / won’t play the rest of the year – and put the money to other use.

    • BillW

      Let’s try that last senence again:
      Without him in there, they are only guessing. Emery had no problem firing a 10-6 coach; I suspect he’d have no problem letting Jay go if he can’t / won’t play the rest of the year – and put the money to other use.

    • BillW

      OK – so I looked it up and again I’m wrong. Third down efficiency for Josh is 38% based on team stats for Wash, GB, Balt, Rams, Min. The team as a whole is also 38% which means with Jay they are at 38% too. And that’s right in the middle of the league (14th to be exact.)
      So overall it’s not Josh; and overall it’s not Marc – except yesterday it was one or the other or both.

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      To me, the biggest difference is on 3rd and longs. 3rd and longs expose both the strengths and weaknesses of McCown and Cutler.

      On 3rd and long, McCown will see his first read which will naturally be double-covered, then immediately check down. 4rth down. punt. No interceptions, but no 1sts either, with a slight chance that Forte or Bennett can break some tackles.

      On 3rd and long, Cutler will see his first read, which will naturally be double-covered, but he’ll WAIT til there’s a small window to rocket it through. The results tend to be 1st downs, ints, or near ints, or sacks.

      This year Cutler seems to have been reprogrammed a bit, but I know he’s still got that itch. It’s like shooting a 22 when you got a bazooka in your garage.

      • SC Dave

        3rd and long exposes problems with many offenses.

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    I disagree. I made the championship playoffs in all three FF leagues: Irish, Shady, Artoo’s.

    And while Cutler is good, McCown has been just as good in FF.

    Oh, Jeff was referring to actual football? Sorry, this time of year I usually just worry about my FF leagues cuz the Bears don’t make the playoffs, and I don’t want to begin discussing who we’re drafting in Dec.

    • tobijohn

      I can’t remember – are you the guy who bamboozled me into trading for Trent Richardson?

      • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

        Don’t feel bad. I still own him in my other league, so you’re not alone in your pain.

        Hell, I even offered Lynch for T-rich straight up to Artoo in his league, and he declined! Thank god he did.

        It’s amazing how ineffective T-rich is. He was a top 5 pick traded to a team who wanted to be run heavy. I guess the Browns were right there.

        Besides, you got Julius Thomas, and honestly a top 3 TE is harder to find than a starting HB. You also got a 2nd WR. If T-rich had turned out, you would have got the best of that trade.

        T-rich is sadly a bust.

    • MB30SD

      Dude, send Irish a note in his league and ask him WTF?!!? Where is that dude.

      • CanadaBear

        Irish is probably laying low. After all the get rid of Forte and play Bush talk, I would too. Hope he comes back. Nobody on this site has staked out his territory better than Irish. It might be fringe territory but it’s all his. Not unlike Johnny with the Cutler love.

        • Cormonster

          Irish has turned me onto some cool music too, like you and Doc. He also really opened my eyes about the Federal Reserve and international banking. Speaking of music, have you heard this band before?

          http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cCkO3U1S87g

      • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

        I’m pretty sure I’m playing him the next two weeks in the playoffs, so I’ll send him this link from Da Bears, with love.

        http://youtu.be/Hn-enjcgV1o

  • gpldan

    If Chicken Dinner just plays heads-up football and throws a block, Greene goes 99 yards for the TD on that pick.

    Now, didn’t we draft that guy for his “football smarts”? That and being “country strong”?

    If you watch the replay again, it really does just seem like Chicken Dinner’s brain is too slow to process what is happening and he just sort of goes DUH on himself.

    • CanadaBear

      Do you think CD has any chance to be a decent LB in the 3-4? I have no idea. He’s got a good motor but I don’t see any football instincts. It’s not like his athleticism jumps out at you. I’m hoping we can salvage the pick by playing him at LB in the 3-4 but that might just be whistling in the dark. FUCK!

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    MartySauraus Rex sounds like a deflated tire. Man. I feel ya, Martyrex.

    “Playing out the string” to me means.

    More Wilson.

    Wilson. Who? Yeah, that beanpole I caught a glimpse of on the sideline last week. I was like, ‘hey, they suit up ball boys now?’ then caught the back of his jersey. He’s still too slim, but give him more reps. Not sure we can take out Marshall or Alshon, but somehow squeeze in Wilson a bit more.

    More Ford.

    All season long, but esp the last two weeks when we needed short yardage. Bush is done, and even if he still has a little juice, Ford is cheaper. We all saw what Ford can do. Give him more reps.

    More Boggs/Slauson at C.

    This might be a tougher sell in the locker room because Garza’s a leader and responsible for making all the protection calls, but why not kick the tires on Boggs or Slauson at C? We can’t get ANY push up the middle, and we all know why. If Trestman wants to save some face for Garza, maybe just slide Slauson over to C and Garza at LG. Putting Boggs in at C might be a bit more radical which might look good on paper, but might not fly in the locker room.

    Leave in Bostic, Greene, and split reps with Wright/Steltz.

    At this point, do we really think Briggs would make that much of a difference? What happens if Briggs blows out an ACL in week 16? Bears gotta find out exactly how good Bostic and Greene are. Might even determine if we switch to a 3-4 too.

    I hope none of us think Steltz is the answer at SS. He’s like the McCown of safeties. Good, but not a difference maker. Wright still has more talent, and we absolutely gotta find out if he’s beyond redemption before drafting another white injury prone safety in the 3rd.

    Move Shea to LB.

    Enough already. Bass to me has looked more productive at DE. Now that Paea and Ratliff are in (hence Woot back at DE), we can try out Shea at LB or a jocker positon. Will Emery and Trest be bold enough to try it? Doubt it. This is Emery’s Hester at WR experiment.

    Sign Tyler Wilson to our practice squad

    He was a 4rth rounder for a reason. He’s got talent, but ‘character’ issues. Sign him. Let him learn under the guidance of Trestman/McCown. They might be able to make a pro out of him, thus saving us a draft pick and mucho money.

    • MB30SD

      I like this.

    • CanadaBear

      “At this point, do we really think Briggs would make that much of a difference?” Yes, definitely yes. Bostic and/or Greene have made a few nice plays and a lot more not so nice plays. Briggs has been a pro bowler almost every year of his career. Bostic and Greene aren’t going to be on the all-rookie team.

      • MB30SD

        yeah, but for what Canada.

        I hate to be one of the guys here just shaking his head about our chances of: 1) getting in to the playoffs, 2) beating anyone once there, 3) Our draft position.

        I just think even with a rusty cutty back, after losing to the lions and vikings the last two weeks, why bother and risk long-term health.

        I say, let cutty and briggs just get better for the remainder, and run all the rookies. That way we’re not talking about throwing games for better draft position, but giving rookies like bostic/greene/wilson/washington/ford some experience… aaaaaand if we do lose games, at least we won’t be picking in the usual 18-22 spot for the… well… always.

        I personally kind of threw in the towel this weekend. I just saw it all going so much differently. never could have predicted the D injury implosion.

        Oh, did any of you guys also hear the stories that Mel T is like one of the top 2 guys being considered for an HC position next year. Fucking sellout.

        • tobijohn

          Definitely didn’t hear that story. Pray tell…

          • MB30SD

            saw it live on ESPN tobi… think it was schefter.

            I’ll see if I can find a link online.

          • tobijohn

            IIRC, he did well a couple of years ago with the Jags’ defense but last year, the same thing happened to them as to us this year and their stats went in the toilet. They also didn’t have an offense so there’s that additional strain on the D. Can’t be expected to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear…

        • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

          haha Tucker as HC? I hope so. I don’t hate the guy, and for all we know he is a really good DC, but I won’t be shedding any tears if he becomes the HC of the Vikings.

          • MB30SD

            yeah, the 4-letter, I think schefter said he was one of two guys already being considered. someone on the site also posited that there were reports he’s been trying harder to audition for HC this year than focusing on being our DC.

            Fuck that guy. Hate fakers man. exactly, I hope he gets an HC spot too… that way we’re guaranteed a new DC.

            Now, that in no way shape or form guarantees us a good one, but at least he’ll probably be focused on the job he’s brought in to do… for fuck sake.

          • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

            We really just got Tucker by default. No great DCs were really available this past off-season. Personally, I liked Horton, but he was a 3-4 guy all the way, and no one was arguing we should have switched to a 3-4 this year.

            It’s kind of how we got Martz a few years back. Just the best of bad options. Hopefully some better D.C.s hit the market in 14, with Rexy being my #1 choice.

          • Cormonster

            Could that just be part of the affirmative action thing? Teams will just use him as a token black interview?

  • CanadaBear

    I get that Trest doesn’t trust the D so he was going for it on 4th down earlier in the season. I’m a firm believer in taking the 3 unless it’s late in the game but with our D … What I don’t get is he doesn’t trust the O either. He basically said that about kicking on 2nd down. The O is the only part of the team that is better than avg. The BiQueens are the worst defensive team in the league. Whisky Tango Foxtrot!!??!! Every first year HC makes some bad decisions. The good ones learn from them. Trest is still trying to rationalize his decisions and make it sound like it was fate or something. If your decisions work they are good decisions, if not, they sucked moose wang. Hopefully he will stop playing scared with the O. We have no chance if he doesn’t because this D isn’t coming around this year.

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      I think what irks most fans is Trestman’s rationalizations.

      I understand he can’t be totally honest and throw his players under the bus, but he could come across a bit less convoluted.

      For instance, if I were asked “Why kick it on 2nd down?” I would respond.

      “We had no push up the middle – I didn’t want to risk a sweep because those might go for negative yards, then we go from a 47 to a 50 something FG. I didn’t want to risk a sack or int, and we have the most accurate kicker in the league. I went with my gut. I was wrong. Sorry about that. It may or may not happen again, depending on the situation, but obviously I lost the game there.”

      See, that takes the blame off Gould, while explaining it a bit more clearly. I can accept that. But his circuitous responses make me wonder if he actually had a gut or a plan.

  • MB30SD
  • SC Dave

    Are you saying that the development of the offensive line means nothing? That opportunities for wilson and ford are meaningless?

    Sorry, cannot agree.

    • Ghost of Waffle

      I was rewatching the game and let me know with you agree with this observation. It may be crazy but here it goes:
      If Ford is running the rock on that last 2nd and 1 do we not get the first down? Forte lacks that violent burst winner take all sacrifice your body in the line to get that 1 fucking yard. A hungry RB looking to stick on a team makes that run. A 5th stringer from GB makes that run. A 3rd stringer from St. Louis makes that run. Why can’t Forte fucking turn into a missle and get 3 feet by selling out his soul???? That was the fucking game there for the taking.

      • tobijohn

        Rewatching the game? What are you, some sort of masochist?

      • Shady

        Why would you rewatch that shit show?

        • Ghost of Waffle

          I needed to confirm my belief that the playcalling was weak and scared. But then I watched Forte puss out on the 2nd and 1. I watched Martellus Bennett miss block after block. I watched my man Marshall drop a huge 3rd down conversion and seemingly not try for another late in the game. I watched Earl Bennett lose his footing and miss out on 4 more yards on what ended up being a 66 yard kick.
          so many things had to happen exactly the way they did for us to lose that game……and every fucking single one of them happened.

          • SC Dave

            On the weak and scared, scharfinator mentioned that on game day about the 4th quarter. Trust the o, trest!!!

          • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

            I think Marty Rex is really hurt right now, but grinding it out. I heard him on the Score today, and he said he think he has a fractured rib, but won’t get it checked out. The guys at the Score were trying to convince him to get examined cause, yeah know, it can puncture a lung, but Marty was like, “Nah, I’m still gonna play” and considering our other TEs, I’m not sure I disagree.

          • Ghost of Waffle

            I think he has been playing with a tweaked knee, bruised shoulder and now ribs. He’s a warrior no doubt.

      • SC Dave

        I did not see the game as i was in a choral performance. So you could be right on the money. Problem in general in my mind is not one play failed, but thdat they all seem to. Olines like those animals the aikman era cowboys had would have the entire defense two yards in the end zone on third and goal from the one.

        Of course you cannot expect that all the time, maybe one of three you could. Thats what ive meant writing about manning up and making a fucking block.

        That being said, no, what you said is miles from crazy. I love matt, but i imagine if i watch the plsy you reference, id think the same thing

        • tobijohn

          OT but what kind of choral stuff, Dave? I’ve been listening to a lot of Morten Lauridsen and Eric Whitacre lately…

          • SC Dave

            It’s a Christmas show, so mostly sacred music about the season.

      • tobijohn

        Actually, why not use the guy we’re paying big bucks to do it? I’ve been wondering why Bush is in the doghouse. If I remember, he did pretty well in those situations last year -and with a worse line in front of him as well…

        • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

          Bush is big, but he runs as if he’s Darren Sproles. Even Bush himself admitted that he likes to use his feet more than his head.

          He’s a ballerina trapped in a FB’s body.

      • SC Dave

        On the other hand, 120 on 23 carries (or whatever his numbers were but iirc that’s real close) is not bad.

        • Ghost of Waffle

          but when we needed a guy to bring the heat he danced in the hole like a pansy. I just feel like other guys in the league would dive and scratch and claw to get that yard.
          The stats look good but he could have won the game with a first down.

        • Ghost of Waffle

          Imagine if Marshawn Lynch needed 1 yd to ice a victory. He’d kill somone on the field to get it. Hunger does that. Just one of the many things that went wrong yesterday.

          • SC Dave

            Yes, one of many and that is how it has been lately – a litany of missed opportunities

          • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

            It’s not that Forte doesn’t have heart, he simply lacks acceleration. There’s a reason he fell in the draft, and that was a big one. He’s a big back, and is more of a glider that takes time to gain momentum.

            He reminds me of a bigger/slower Marcus Allen.

            He’s never been a quick-twitch RB like Barber who just hit the hole violently. Amazingly, Bush for a big back doesn’t do that either – so we’re fucked in that department. That’s why some of us have been calling for Ford since the preseason.

            I’m not on the Irish bus of replacing Forte with Ford, but Ford should have definitely gotten some chances.

            But maybe he’s a fumbler, or a horrible pass protector; don’t know, but we’re 6-6 so WTF, why not?

            We also gotta figure out why we can’t get a push on short yards. Is it personnell? Hard to imagine that Long can’t bulldoze over ppl, but he is still learning the position.

            Is it Slauson who graded out much better in pass-protection than run-blocking last year?

            We know Garza is a liability.

            It might also just be a scheme/rb issue. Zone blockers tend to be smaller and nimbler at the price of girth and power.

            We’d have to see how the Texans and Saints handle those short yard situations.

          • Ghost of Waffle

            The saints use their TE, playaction and moving the pocket on short yardage.
            The Texans use a zone blocking run scheme, so…they effectively just hold on every run play.

  • Trac

    I had to laugh when I told my son what would have to happen for the Bears to make the playoffs and he promptly, “I’m guessing the have an 90% chance of failure”. Lol. If everyone could be like the little children.

  • Shady

    Jerry Angelo @RealJerryAngelo
    I’ll answer questions again this week. But one I forgot to answer last week: Who is my favorite current player? Devin Hester!
    Retweeted by DaBearsBlog

    JA is trolololing you MB.

    • Ghost of Waffle

      someone should ask Jerry if he likes our WR’s. Fucking cocksmoker Angelo. Fucking pissed away 5yrs of a superbowl caliber defense.

    • MB30SD

      i want someone really mean to torture jerry angelo with soft items.

  • BerwynBomber

    I cannot agree with this. Cutler is obviously our starter and as bang-up of a job McCown has done as a back-up starter most of us would agree that we have seen enough of him to assess his effectiveness (and frankly he probably has nowhere to go but down). But to assign “merit” of a non-playoff run strictly on the condition of whether Cutler gets more work with his weapons before the start of ’14 season seems to overlook the many question marks that remain on this team. Just as an example I would like to see how Bostic and Greene play the rest of the year. More than a few here seem to think Bostic is a future stud; I’m not completely sold but even if I were more game time at his young age would be beneficial leading into ’14. And again that is only one example. Bears have a few of those. Yes, letting Cutler hone his timing with Alshon would be nice but it is hardly the only thing this team could use work on the last four games.

  • AlbertInTucson

    OK. Russel Wilson, KNOWN scrambler, bootlegs right on 3rd and 1 and burns the saints with one to his WIDE open tight end for huge gain and a first and goal. THAT’S what I’been harping about.

    I submit if the Bears run that on 3rd and 1 yesterday, that game never sees overtime.

    • AlbertInTucson

      The last time I can recall the Bears running anything like that was Brian Griese to Dez Clark to beat the Packers in Lambeau. The play was supposed to go to a back but Griese spotted Clark all alone and Dez waltzed, untouched, into the endzone.

    • Shady

      Are you enjoying this Ed Hochuli call tonight, Al?

  • AlbertInTucson

    Ed Hochuli. Exhibit “A” for those who say the NFL has an officiating problem.

    • Shady

      “There IS no delay of game… We were changing balls.”

  • Shady

    You know Seattle is having a charmed season when a pass deflects off of Kellen Davis’ hands and facemask for a touchdown.

  • MB30SD
    • Shady

      Dude, the CGHA is no joke. Next to the Van Buren Boys, these guys are the hardest motherfuckers in town.

      • MB30SD

        look at you with all your one liners. Where the hell have you been?!

        • Shady

          Me? You!

          • MB30SD

            you? me!

            GetSome… as soon as I can find a damn machine.

  • MB30SD

    3 dudes, one punt. Ouch.

    • Shady

      Yay violence!

  • MB30SD
    • SC Dave

      Not sure the point you’re trying to make. Did Peterson get away with it? (he asks rhetorically…)

      • MB30SD

        Just yanking your chain Dave

  • MB30SD
    • Shady

      Makes my eyes rain…

  • MB30SD
    • Shady

      BLOCK damn you BLOCK

  • MB30SD
  • Maddbearfan

    I don’t know if anybody saw this…it’s mean…but it is funny!

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/bears-giving-jay-cutler-a-few-years-to-properly-he,34635/

    • BearFanInDE

      Yes. I read the Onion every night to unwind! A few years ago they had (what was then funny) an ‘article’ about Gillette coing out w. 5 blades (in a razor). Then it became reality.

      They did have a good one about the 06 or 07 Bears too with a caption about the Bears D feasting on the crowd (a pic of Urlacher eating some guys arm or something.) Aaah…the days when the Bears had a defense,,,..

  • johnnywad

    The most reliable player in a Bears uniform has been Robbie Gould over the last few seasons. He misses pretty ordinary distance game winners in Washington and Minny. Two kicks are the difference. 8-4 instead of 6-6. Trestman is good enough in his first year with a historically bad defense to put the Bears in position to be 8-4 and Robbie missed. His mistakes are obvious. But he’s a pretty sharp guy that’s really under the microscope right now. This season hurts but the arrow is definitely pointing up. Just a little perspective is helpful right now.

    • SC Dave

      There are a lot of other plays that could have won those games too.

  • MB30SD

    shady… seems like everyone has one but me.

    http://money.cnn.com/2013/12/03/pf/sony-playstation-sales/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

    Quick maths: 2M X $399 = ~$800,000,000 (yes, that’s almost a BILLION dollars in a couple weeks)

  • MB30SD
    • gpldan

      I can’t listen to the CNN talking morons, but here’s what I know:

      The Carrera GT is a lion that will bite you. It’s flat bottom and bump and rebound settings are for the track, not the street. That is a car that will buck if you hit a bump at speed, it’s a known issue with the car.

      Tire marks indicate they were doing donuts and then probably peeled out. A witness says he heard a pop BEFORE the bang. You lose a tire on that car, with 2″ of ground clearance at 100mph and the wheel will just grab on you as the rim hits the pavement and Walker and his driver just went for a ride hard to the opposite side.

      Unfortunately for them, a light pole was there, Probably flipped the car, fire starts, they are trapped, and they burned up. Unpleasant.

      Having said all that, CNN showing the Carrera GT with the caption “Too Fast, Too Furious?” is the kind of skunk ass journalism that took over that place after Ted Turner stopped running it. Man, that is low.

  • BillW

    Some may think I’m beating a dead horse, but Biggsy was more animated on his call into the Score this morning than I can ever recall. Said the decision was indefensible. (Of course Jeff thinks he’s a hopeless case). Said not a single one of his football contacts thought it made sense. Wondered if the players are feeling confused by Trestman’s inconsistency (going for 4th and 1 one time, punting another time etc.)
    Morrissey is a jerk but had one good quote: you can’t learn from your mistakes if you don’t think it’s a mistake.
    Still no reference to the fact the Bears could have profitted the same from a tie. Maybe it’s time for the old man (me) to get this new fangled Twitter thing.
    I wan’t to think Trestman had a good football sense based on forethought. Now I think his long winded explanations are a joke. Cites all kinds of statistics when defending not calling time outs against the Ravens; and then this explanation. (The ball was in the middle of the field – that was he main thing. That’s his latest spin – and I’m sorry but to cite that as the “main thing” the next day makes it sound lame.)
    Consider this – what if he kicked it on FIRST down? He said the coaches were all in agreement that once they got past the 30 they were kicking. So what if the first down came at the 29 instead of where it did (I think it was the 32.) From what Trestman said, they were all in agreement to kicjk then too, and I assume Jeff would claim THAT would make sense too and anyone thinking otherwise is a hopeless case.

    • DaBearsBlog

      I would have been fine with Trestman running another play but I just don’t see why it’s that big a deal. They would have gained 2 yards and Robbie would have missed from 45. He wasn’t close on that kick.

      • Shady

        While I believe Trest should have run another play, I agree this call is getting blown way out of proportion.

        • why is leslie frazier getting no credit? he iced the kicker. HE ICED THE KICKER.

    • BillW

      Here’s my point – Trestman has now shown himself to be stubborn – insincere – inconsistant – defensive – and in a subtle way condescending. Just like Lovie. He is too old and doesn’t have the NFL HC credentials to be given the benefit of the doubt on that.
      Obviously we’re stuck with him for at least 2 more years but we will be calling forhim to be fired by then.
      I guess it seems I’m over-reacting but I’ve seen this movie too many times and it always ends the same.

      • Shady

        Stubborn, insincere, Lovie-esque condescending? Nope. Not wen close. Inconsistent and defensive? Sure.

    • gpldan

      There’s a deeper issue with kicking from the 47 with 6 minutes on the clock on 2nd and 7:

      He may have lost his team. Because that shows disrespect to the offense. It says “I don’t think we should risk moving the ball further, you guys might screw it up.”

      It’s one thing to show no confidence in the D that has objectively been playing turrible, giving up massive yards. But there was no reason to send in a vote of no confidence like that at that time. Yes, they were stacking the run. So he should have passed.

      If they get the pick, they get the pick. You stand up there like a man and say we played to win, not to not lose. The locker room respects that.

      I think there are a lot of guys on offense this week whose opinion of Trestman may have changed. The guy played like a coward.

      • Shady

        That’s crap. This whole “coach doesn’t have confidence in his players” analyst speak is garbage. He’s not losing a locker room over one play call. If he CONTINUES to not put players in the best position to win games then yes, it could be an issue. But not from one over analyzed call from Sunday.

        • gpldan

          You should have heard Biggsy then. You know, the guy could Sumo, his blood is made of aus jus. He needs to watch that diastolic. And he was hot hot about this.

          I don’t know if it’s the reach you might think. The NFL locker room is a fickle place, ask Tom Coughlin. I think that kick decision would not go over well.

          • Shady

            If coaches lost players and locker rooms because of poor in-game management, Lovie would have lost his YEARS ago.

        • Ghost of Waffle

          I think his decision making in the 2nd Detroit game, the Washington game, the St. Louis game and now the Vikings game is proof enough that he continues to not put the Bears in the best position to win.
          The defense sucks. The offense is the only hope. He can’t keep fucking up, he just can’t.
          When the chips are down and the game is on the line and you continually place inferior players running inferior overthought playcalls into action you are hurting the team. (think Rhino package)

          • BillW

            Glad to see at least a couple of people agree with me on Trestman. I would say that Trestman may have had a hand in more than one loss; a head coach should not have a hand in ANY losses.
            I doubt he’s lost the locker room yet. But I would suspect the suspicions are starting to creep in.
            We used to have a bend but don’t break defense. What do we call this offense? Stretch but don’t score? 400+ yards and only 20 points? Turner / Martz / Tice could do that.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    They should give reps to Ford and Wilson.

    • Johnathan Wood

      I really want to see Ford get some looks at RB. His average in the preseason wasn’t great, but he had no room to run. I want to see what he can do behind a real OL.

    • Ghost of Waffle

      Reps to Wilson over who????
      They will work the young guy in but there is no way in this reality that he gets reps over E. Bennett, Jeffery or Marshall….the exact positions that he plays.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Earl Bennett. I don’t think he’ll be back next year.

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