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Hey Chris Conte, Catch the Ball: Rapid Fire Recap of the Bears Division Title Game Loss

| December 30th, 2013

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You spend a week playing out the scenarios in your mind; how will Team A move the ball, how will Team B fair on third downs…etc. And then you sit in stunned silence as a fumbled football sits on the field and 20 of the 22 NFL players involved in the play pay it no mind. One guy picks it up. The quarterback and sideline tell him to run. Touchdown. We’ll call it The Boykin Fiasco. It is the play everyone will remember for years to come.

Here’s a bunch of thoughts from the afternoon.

  • NFL should be embarrassed by the way this game was officiated. What did Clete Blakeman see under the hood that the rest of us did not see on the downed punt at the one yard line? How on earth can the officials call Shea McClellin for unnecessary roughness at that point in the game? I Tweeted it yesterday and I mean it: an official had to WANT to throw that flag to throw it.
  • Ultimately the game came down to costly mistakes on the defensive side of the ball. The Boykin Fiasco. Whatever coverage that was on the Packers final play. Chris Conte flat out dropping a game ending interception.
  • Julius Peppers flying at Aaron Rodgers on that final play was such a terrible mistake. How do you lose contain there? Oh I know how. You’ve been doing it all season long. (I forgot for a moment the Bears have an awful defense.)
  • I was wrong about one thing: If Matt Flynn played yesterday, the Bears win the game easily. Rodgers used his legs quite a bit more than I expected.
  • Heck of a game, Matt Forte. Put the team on your back.

  • Same to the Bears offensive line.
  • Not a great performance by the Bears wide receivers. A few very costly drops. A terrible fumble by Alshon Jeffery. The numbers are good, the touchdowns were wonderful, but those numbers don’t reflect what was on the field. They were symbolic of Bears offense: inconsistent.
  • Three and out. Three and out. Jeffery. That was the Bears offensive production in the second quarter. Bears offense played a spectacular second half but their failings in the second quarter cost them a football game. I said all week they needed 35 to win. They needed 34. They came up short.
  • Adam Podlesh. 30 yards. Every punter can drop the ball inside the twenty. Can the Bears find one who can kick the ball a little further?
  • Thought Devin Hester had another wonderful game returning kicks. Guy is still an absolute game changer back there and the Bears shouldn’t let him walk out the door this winter.
  • A few defenders really stood out. James Anderson. Major Wright had a nice game in run support. But it’s probably not a good sign that we’re praising the performance of a defense that surrendered nearly 500 yards at home.
  • Jay Cutler played a smart, efficient football game. Hard to evaluate beyond that without seeing what he saw down the field. He certainly did enough in the second half to win the game.
  • Isaiah Frey on Jordy Nelson is not something the Bears should try in 2014.

There will be more time to dissect this game as the week progresses and we we enter the Bears off-season. Bears finished this season 9th in yards per game and 2nd in points per game. The offense is built and more time in the system will only lead to improvement. Now it is incumbent upon Phil Emery to solve the defense. If they can go from awful to mediocre in 2014, the Bears will be a contender for a title.

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  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Not too early to say that the pressure is now on for Emery to show something…anything…when it comes to evaluating defensive talent. It sucks balls that we endured the injury bug that we did, especially on the line, but with the turn over that’s going to take place on defense this offseason, it’s all in his hands. It is hugely frustrating, after years of comic ineptitude on the offensive side of the ball for it to have been the defense that repeatedly self destructed this year. With Tillman healthy, Briggs away from the buffet table, and ANY healthy DT, this team was a contender. Silver lining for me is I obviously don’t have to feel bad about attending a home game next year. Had I been at this one,I don’t think I’d ever go again.

    • gpldan

      If you touch the Palantir, Sauron whispers Chandler Jones to you…

      • Bender McLugh

        hmm….you mean from the Patriots?

        • gpldan

          We passed on Jones to take Chicken Dinner.

          • Bender McLugh

            UGH. I will pretend that didn’t happen……….. Jones is a STUD.

          • johnnywad

            That hurts. Please make it stop. I saw CD yesterday with his helmet off. He appears to have a relatively normal head. So why does it always appear he has placed a roll of duct tape on the crown of his head before putting his helmet on? Maybe he and Devin share a helmet.

    • Irish Sweetness

      We do need to bear in mind we lost a LOT of defensive players this year, nobody on offense – but it was still plain to see the value of Urlacher in our D from his absence. Briggsy was never quite there with the calls.

      We showed we could stop the run against GB. How many plays did Lacy get stopped and pushed backwards in a heap? Then on the next play we’d show we couldn’t. That doesn’t show lack of ability, but lack of leadership. Won’t get it from Pep – he doesn’t open his mouth. Can’t get it from Briggsy, he doesn’t have it upstairs.

      Nobody said this all year, so I’ll say it. Somebody tell me Urlacher wasn’t worth 5 million to play for us this year. The repeaters will say the same thing over and over ad nauseam : “his legs were gone … he’d lost a few steps …”. Well guess what, Khaseem Greene is our fastest LB. What now? What does that mean? Our defense was in disarray this year. They weren’t slower than their opponents. They weren’t less-trained, weaker. They just didn’t know wtf was going on. They needed a big brother to put them in their right spots and tell them what to do. That was Brian’s job – not running the 100M. And boy did we miss him. Sign DJ, fine. Draft Bostic, okay. But the first cheque signed should have been for the Boss.

      • BillW

        Now that the season is over, you are obviously correct. But it’s hindsight.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Nope, said it back then, I was in a boat of one.

  • Sad to see the season go.

    Also, Tom Brady was a better punter than Adam Podlesh yesterday. http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/12/29/5254834/tom-brady-punt-patriots-bills

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Yeah, Jay, a REAL QB can play special teams too!

      • Irish Sweetness

        I thought Jay did all he could, his receivers let him down on occasion, but he did a good job. That Pep-Arod-strip-fumble thing was huge, instead of a turnover it’s a TD. Huge. Deadly. Evil.

  • RyanBear

    I agree with you. The game defining play was the fumble fiasco. The Packers punting and defense was just as suspect as the Bears. After all that happened, the drive that cost us the game is when the Bears offense went backwards and couldn’t convert 3rd and 17 inside Packers territory late in the 4th. Bad play calling at the worst possible time? You betcha.

    • gpldan

      Agreed. Shitting that drive away was huge.

      • Viva

        On that drive, we had Bushrod jump offside, an illegal formation penalty, Matt Forte thinking he was Barry Sanders (for a loss of 5 yards), and Alshon not making a makable catch, which would have put us at the 16 yard line…

    • johnnywad

      I came down to a penalty, Ebon Britton not locking up the right edge on the Forte run that went backward, and Alshon dropping a ball he’s been catching all year. Not sure I’d lay it on play calling. The plays were there.

    • SC Dave

      Not sure I agree with the playcalling comment, but you are definitely on the money about the fumble play. A turnover becomes an enemy touchdown because the entire defense decides to quit the play. Unreal.

  • Trac

    This season was lost because our defense was absolutely pathetic all year. Even before all our players got injured. I was calling it the pink elephant in the room by the third game. The Bengals moved the ball on us at will and the only reason we won that game is because they self destructed.

    I’m not impressed with Emery’s results this year. He has to do better building the defense and specials. I’ll say it again, one dimensional teams go nowhere. Shea McClellin, what a joke. Bostic and Green were non factors all season. Emery’s grade on defensive drafting, F+.

    • Bender McLugh

      I still do like Chicken Dinner, not sure why all of you are soooo down on him. He had several plays where he was in the backfield before the rest of the D and made an impact. With that said, he is definitely a one-dimensional, pass-rushing-only-type, and not sure if that will fit with the D going forward.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Look at what Emery inherited. A QB he didn’t hire, an over-paid under-producing marquee name at DE. A blown poker-play on the Urlacher scenario aside, he’s made some good moves and I’d love to see what he could do to that defense with 4 or 5 picks in the first two rounds if he trades Cutty. Center in the third. Done.

      • IBNO

        He can’t/won’t trade Cutler.

        Scenarios:

        Franchise tag Cutler. Pretty much CANNOT trade a player you tag. And who would be stupid enough to take the trade?

        Sign Cutler to a long-term deal with lots of $ up-front. Again, who would trade for a guy who’s just signed to a contract THEY (the team trading for him) didn’t structure?

        The Bears CANNOT trade Cutler. They have to tag him, sign him to a long-term contract, or let him walk.

  • Irish Sweetness

    You’re right Jefe, James Anderson really stood out … in particular when he strolled by a live ball that he should have picked up and run back for a TD.

    We can have no complaints though. Aaron Rodgers has been kicking our asses since day one. No change there. Defense wins championships. We used to know that. Only way to rebuild now is to get what we can for Jay, lose Pep and Melt, and build for the future.

    And here’s a crazy idea. Maybe Houston under Lovie would be crazy enough to give us Watt and a second rounder (which in their case is essentially a first) for Cutler. I could see him signing Melton too. Cutty had a pretty good game yesterday, at one point his rating was 148 to Rodgers 60. Yesterday was not on him, but it’s time to part ways so that we can get stronger as a team. It’s time to realize some assets and let Phil to go to work. So long Jay, it was interesting.

    • Bender McLugh

      “We can have no complaints though.”

      uhmm…….really?

    • BillW

      Not sure under what scenario the Bears would be able to trade Cutler. He’s a free agent. I guess they could sign him and trade him but I suspect Cutler would want some guarantees in his contract and maybe even a “no-trade” clause for the first year at least.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        If they franchise tag him, then they could trade him….but, let’s be real here: The Bears would be foolish to tag him and trade him because what else do we have as a qb? Bears won’t be able to get a stud QB in the draft and we need defensive picks mostly.

        If we get a 2nd round quarterback, are fans willing to wait yet another several years on a project qb? Are the fans and even players willing to wait even though Forte/Marshall/Bennett are all in their prime? Cuz they will not be after 3 years.

        I’d say keep Cutler, cut the old guys on defense, draft a strong defense, and draft one or two offensive pieces, bring in a free agent safety (who knows what he is doing) and DE

        But who knows? We don’t run the organization, they may surprise us, lol. Maybe one team or two will take the bait of giving away the house to us?

        • burntorangenavyblue

          I may be wrong with what I said….pretty damn tired, haha. So sorry in advance!

        • IBNO

          You can’t franchise tag a player, then trade him. Technically, it’s possible, but the league would come down on the team like a hammer. The point of the franchise tag is to PREVENT a star from getting away, while compensating the star at a reasonable rate. Sign & trade has not been done in the era of the franchise tag, and there’s a reason for that.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Then we’re fracked.

  • gpldan


    Julius Peppers flying at Aaron Rodgers on that final play was such a terrible mistake. How do you lose contain there? Oh I know how. You’ve been doing it all season long. (I forgot for a moment the Bears have an awful defense.)

    Conte was in short zone.

    Tucker brought 6 and Conte was looking to give help to Frey on Nelson. The reason that play breaks down is Pep. The RDE cannot leave his feet when you are bringing 6. It’s why Pep had his head in his hands after the game; he fucked it. He let Rodgers break contain – game over.

    We can debate the merit of bringing 6 on 4th and 8 against Rodgers all day – personally, I would not have done it. I get we needed pressure because Emery wouldn’t let Tucker bench Chicken Dinner and play Woot at LDE. So we needed something and Briggs was the only one generating any consistent rush. But Pep needs to funnel Rodgers to where the blitz is – and he LEFT HIS FEET.

    Awful stuff there. Might be his last play as a Bear.

    • Irish Sweetness

      All-in with 10s against one opponent is a good hand!

      They went for it so much on 4th down they deserved it. We didn’t so much lose it as Rodgers won it. I’m over it. Just want a good draft now.

      • BillW

        No – we lost it. Horrble mix up – not all 11 had the same coverage. Even Trestman contradicted himslef – once calling it zone and then calling it man. Blitz was a gamble for sure but done right (as said, Pep making sure he had contain) it would have worked. Once he lost contain, Rodgers would have at least moved the chains even if Cobb had be covered.

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      That’s what I thought originally. I thought Tucker gambled big time with putting Conte in that zone taking away the short slant/hook, praying the blitz would make Rodgers throw before Cobb or any other WR streaked un-covered.

      But of course, Tucker didn’t plan on Pepp losing contain.

      I also can totally believe that the play was drawn up differently and Conte just blew it. That’s very plausible too.

      Fuck.

  • Bender McLugh

    “A few defenders really stood out. James Anderson.”

    He must GO. Did you see him completely lost on the 4th & 8 play, following everyone into the middle instead of READING the damn play? I’ve seen it too much from him and I am OFF his bandwagon. Screw that guy.

    • Bender McLugh

      (okay…..admittedly this may be an over-reaction, but still…..)

  • Viva

    For the sake of argument, is it not possible for a QB to get hit from behind, lose possession of the ball (fumble), but regain possession while the ball is dangling off said QBs fingertips who then desperately propels/throws the ball forward in an attempt to make an errant throw, thereby turning a fumble into a incomplete pass?

    • gpldan

      If Anderson picked that ball up and started running, the refs would have blown the whistle as soon as he reached the 50. I’m sure of it.

      • Viva

        The refs were flat out brutal. I wanted to see what Piera (?) thought of the fucking punt/touchback and roughing the passer penalties but Fox did not oblige.

      • Irish Sweetness

        There is undoubtedly a supra-league mandate to fuck the Bears,

        But what was strange was that Tresty said they don’t let that happen in practice. You wouldn’t see a ball left on the ground in practice … yet come the biggest game of the year … we’re standing around doing Bubba Gump impressions or looking like the first witnesses to the invention of the wheel.

      • IBNO

        Complete agreement.

        I thought I heard a whistle, but obviously I was wrong. The thing I kept thinking is that if someone in Navy had grabbed the ball, the play would’ve been called dead.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Yeah, I’ve watched enough football in my life to believe that it is quite possible that the refs would have blown the whistle a million times if they saw a Bears player picking it up.

    • Rodgers Dead

      I thought that since he still tried to propel the ball forward and touched it again which moved it forward that it was incomplete. you still fucking pick it up though. you only do it every play in practice for 10 yrs.

      • bearsfantillend

        well would that not have been at least an ‘illegal batting forward of a loose ball penalty’?

        • Irish Sweetness

          Yeah, what happened to the ‘not being able to advance your fumble’ bit – where does that apply? Boykin picks up the fumble, then fumbles it himself, then picks it up again and advances it for a TD.

          • Irish Sweetness

            What down was it ?

            ” In American football the offense cannot advance the ball if it recovers
            its own fumble on fourth down, or in the last two minutes of the game,
            unless the ball is recovered by the fumbler (there are no such
            restrictions in Canadian football).”

            Just checked, it was first down.

      • Viva

        Don’t get me wrong. I am a discipline guy, there is no doubt that we should have laid out to get the ball after it hit the dirt. That was a lapse (one of more than a handful) that did not help us win yesterday.

    • BillW

      I don’t blame the refs since obviously you play to the whistle, pick up any lose fottball etc. But I felt the same about if we recovered and ran with it – that the play would be blown dead. Horrible way to think.

  • bearsfantillend

    The NFL should be embarrassed by the way ALL games have been officiated this year!!!!

    Officials have been blowing calls all season long. Simple calls, judgement calls, calls that require them to count, calls that cost games, calls that have no impact on the game. Players and coaches live by the credo that NFL stands for NOT FOR LONG if you are not doing your job. Last year we saw the ineptitude of replacement officials, and unfortunately I believe this gave the current officials a license to suck, as long as its not as bad as the replacements were. There is no accountability for officials. No facing the media. What is the worst thing that can happen to officials? they don’t get a playoff game, they get a negative mark on their grade. Something needs to be done on officiating, simplify the rule book, allow challenges against specific penalty calls, centralize the replay, make their contracts incentive based. Something, anything, just fix it.

  • bearsfantillend

    Leslie Frazier just got fired.

    • BerwynBomber

      Probably a smart move by Minny, though I don’t think Frazier is entirely at fault up there Will be interesting to see who the Vikes interview.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Happy for him to come home as our next DC. Bye Mel. You gave us the worst defense in Bears’ history.

      • IBNO

        I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

        Wait, no.

        But I like Les coming home.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Wow. Just watched the fumble return again. Watch Briggs. He watches the guy run it in, standing there watching him, hands on both hips, thinking to himself “now what’s the fool think he’s doing?”…. O.M.G.

    He can go too. Let’s do this thing right, Phil. Soldier field was a sad place yesterday. Clear the place out, pull up the drawing board, and go at this from the start. The names change, but this will always be the Bears … and the fans deserve better.

    • johnnywad

      Not many will be back next year on that side of the ball. Briggs will be one of them. Timmy J probably comes back with a fair deal. I would love
      to get two years out of a healthy Peanut, but that seems unlikely. Ratliff seems like a good rotation guy, but not the stud we need at the position. Wooton will obviously be back. Bowman has been serviceable as a backup. Outside of that, I could see new faces at every position next year.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah, Briggs has a year left on his deal, though knowing Lance he’ll probably want a raise during spring or summer. He and Lach were kinda predictable on that sitting out front. Wouldn’t be shocked to see it again. It will be interesting to see if other teams bid for Jennings and Peanut, or which do and how big are the offers.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Yeah, Briggs learned the system quickly because of how Urlacher handled things when it came to the contract talks. I just hope it doesn’t come down to a piss match between him and the organization. If it does, then “See Ya!” Sick of that crap. I’m pretty sure Urlacher is on Brigg’s speed dial when it comes to this stuff though.

        • Irish Sweetness

          From theST :

          “Even relative to the injuries, this was an embarrassing defensive season for the Bears — one that left Briggs, the so-called leader of the team, to exit the locker room without a word and leave his teammates to explain dreadful performances in the final two games.”

          Doesn’t sound like a leader to me. On or off the field. Let him go, CD takes over.

  • johnnywad

    Aside from a defensive overhaul, Slauson needs a new deal, and Garza needs a replacement. That’s all that needs to be addressed on that side of the ball. That offense is going to be scary next year.

    • BerwynBomber

      I don’t know if we’ll be big players in the FA market this year. Cutler is going to take up most if not all our money, even if we shed a few guys. I’d be fine with Garza coming back.

      • johnnywad

        I’m not sure Cutler is getting the kind of deal I keep hearing people worry about. He’s going to be paid well for sure, I just don’t think he’s getting a Romo/Flacco deal. In relative terms, Im betting it looks more like the Forte deal. And Peppers is likely gone or at most working on a journeyman’s salary next year. There may be more money on hand than anticipated by fans like us.

        • BerwynBomber

          Decent point: the Romo/Flacco deals could be things of the past. Plus, the Bears should be in a strong negotiating position with Cutler. Guess it just depends on whether any other teams go after him. And yeah I forgot about Pep’s sizable salary coming off the books.

        • Irish Sweetness

          You know what his agent is thinking and what he’ll be asking for. Flacco has a ring, Tony doesn’t. His agent will be wanting a payday. Pass.If we get anything close to what we paid for him, we’re doing a smart thing.

          • johnnywad

            There will be no trade for Cutler. Three things can happen. 1.) Somebody else opens the vault and pays him enough to leave Chicago. Only takes one team but unlikely. 2.). He’s tagged. No way he gets traded if tagged. Who’s giving up early picks for a guy that’s on a one year deal in a place he doesn’t want to be? Not happening. 3.). He gets a long term deal that’s fair for the Bears and for Cutler. Most likely scenario in my book.
            If Cutler leaves, it won’t be via trade

          • burntorangenavyblue

            As much of a “jerk” Cutler seems to be to most of you guys, I honestly don’t think that he is going to demand the house for his new contract. The Bears are in the best position going forward than any potential team that would want him with producing another year or two of possibly winning it out and I’m pretty sure that Cutler just wants that.

            Yeah, sometimes money pulls someone out the other way, but Cutler grew up a Bears fan. He knows he’s the organizations QB, and he knows now he has the tools and weapons in place for him.

            But seriously, WHO IN THE HELL WOULD PLAY IN PLACE OF CUTLER? Why would you guys want anyone else when there is NO ONE ELSE POSSIBLE right this moment? This year’s draft of qb sucks and the top tiered candidates will be long gone by that point, and even they aren’t first day franchise starters for an NFL team. You guys want the Bears to “gamble” on another project quarterback with “if” and “potentials”….does that sound familiar? We draft what we need, not what we “might” need…..and we need DEFENSE, not another quarterback!

          • Irish Sweetness

            Eh … Josh McCown ….?

      • Rodgers Dead

        Cutler is not taking up most of if not all the money. C’mon dude, if you don’t read the salary cap stuff on this site at least listen to it on the radio with Hub or read other articles. The Bears will be flush with cash.

        • BerwynBomber

          God, Waffle anything that throws Jay in the slightest bad light you immediately pounce on. You’re just the antithesis of SCDave. As trustworthy on things Jay as he is.

          • bearsfantillend

            not sure how Waffle was coming to Cutlers defense in this situation. Bears have around 50 mill in cap space next year, Cutler is not going to take all the money, especially since 1st couple years of long term deals are usually very cap friendly, so even if Cutler gets a long term deal probably only be about 10 mill against the cap next year. Leaving 40 mill to rebuild the defense – of course you got to set aside some of that money for the draft

          • BerwynBomber

            Because johnnywad already corrected me?

          • bearsfantillend

            LOL, my bad.

          • MB30SD

            no man, I’m with jonny here. Did you not read NB’s cap situation analysis. We’re going to have 20-30M to play with AFTER a cutty deal.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, I didn’t read the cap analysis. Bad Bears fan moment on me.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Lose Briggs, Pep, Melton, maybe Peanut ? – there’s a bunch of cash right there.

  • Paul Stuart

    Emery could do with rating a player’s savvy a little higher when hiring or drafting. Too many moments where players just don’t seem to know what they’re about, or where they are or if a play is still even live (FFS!!) That shit shouldn’t need coaching…School kids know to play to the whistle. That bobbled fumble TD return iced the mojo for me last night. Thought the D had tourniquet’d the haemorrhage ok for the most part…but then Chris Conte…sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.

    Although with the officiating as bad as it’s getting, persons could buy a game result as easily as a senate decision.

  • TheBigCheesy

    RODGERS… ALIVE!

    After further review, The Bears Still Suck!

    • BerwynBomber

      But you’ll be done by this time next week. Your D is every bit as bad as ours, which is saying something.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Yeah, it’s gonna take just one good hit on Rodgers from the 49ers defense to pop that collar bone off track. You just KNOW that the 49ers are going to put in one or two dirty hits on him, lol

    • IBNO

      Have fun watching your team get dismantled by San Fran on Sunday.

    • BillW

      You know, one thing I admire about he Packers since the Ron Wolf era started – they give their fans legitmate reasons to be proud of their team. After the Forrest Gregg thug approach made them despicable, they have been a class organization that gives the players reason to believe and pull together – This year in SPITE of a really bad defense and (from what I read) suspect DC. I hope we are on that track, but in all honesty (and I say this as a fan going back to the early 60s) I just don’t see it.
      THAT’S what made yesterday hurt for me. Had they lost to ANYONE else I would not have felt this bad.

    • Irish Sweetness

      We didn’t suck. Took a lot of luck and a couple of goes on 4th down to beat us there, skip.

      • TheBigCheesy

        We did get lucky….y’all still suck though.

  • Viva

    FUCK

  • Trac

    Oh and by the way guys, that touchdown Rogers threw on 4th and 8 was 100% on Peppers. He got taken down to the ground like a bitch and Rogers was able to avoid the pressure.

    Also, Emery dropped a notch in my eyes for trying to ride Lovie’s coat tails by failing to implement Tuckers D for an entire season. In my opinion, the we lost an entire year to start the change on schemes to suit Tuckers system. That’s on him 100 %.

  • Trac

    Emery owns this season. We took a HUGE step back.

    • Rodgers Dead

      that’s what happens when an organization drops the draft ball for 7yrs.

      • Rodgers Dead

        look at the draft classes from 2004 onwards for both teams. it’s silly.

      • MB30SD

        exactly!!

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Yeah, but the team took a HUGE step forward on offense, so it is a net-zero effect for the team overall according to your logic. Emery focused on almost all offense the past draft/free agency and look what it resulted: the second highest scoring team. I know that we need a decent defense to keep things relevant in the game, but let’s just see how it pans out for Emery in the upcoming draft. Like what others are saying, after eight or nine years of a terrible draft, Emery isn’t going to fix all of those mistakes overnight.

      • MB30SD

        exactly!

    • MB30SD

      that is such bullshit trac. I honestly don’t get how some of you guys see things. Like fucking bizarro world.

      The D was inherited, the DC was told to keep what we had AND it was reported he was looking to be a HC not be our DC. Our D (also inherited) fell apart.

      I just don’t get it. Honestly you sound crazy to me… this O with a halfway decent D and we’re at very least 10-6 right now and in the playoffs.

      Don’t. Get. It.

      • Trac

        I’m a results guy MB. From that standpoint, it should be clear that finishing 8-8, getting hosed by the cheese, losing games like the key stone cops and squandering evra opportunity the Lions gave us is unacceptable. That’s how the Browns roll!

        I get it, Trestman is the “anti lovie” due to the fact he’s an offensive minded head coach but we had one of the easiest schedules in football this year and we more than blew it.

        We are to the Packers what the Lions are to you. We folded like a cheap suit and our team does not have the character I hoped they had. If Emery doesn’t fix our D by the time the season rolls around, what then? Nope, next year is a crap shoot, there’s more to be concerned about than this time last year.

        Positive confession is bullshit, specially if there is no legitimate reason to expect different results next year. We lost to the packers AT HOME, again, the Lions owned us twice and we failed to put the queens away in OT. That is not a winning recipe my friend.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Tresty’s presser – “we played well, not well enough to win, it starts with me.”

    Brandon’s presser – dude looks like he’s about to take Cinders to the ball. Look at this guy.

    http://www.chicagobears.com/multimedia/videos/Marshall_I_am_proud_of_the_guys/8a7ab5ec-bfe0-49ef-aecb-7d00cc0ecdc2

  • gpldan

    So classy of Urlacher to piss on the Bears in his interview with Pompeii.

    “Lovie would have never let this happen.”, omg Brian. Do you not remember the game against the Texans that knocked you out of the playoffs?

    Do you not recall that Melton was a Lovie experiment? Now he’s some prison bitch.

    Tucker needs to go, but Brian can go suck it. Maybe he can be Lovie’s LB coach when Lovie gets the job with the Texans.

    • Trac

      GP, I happen to agree with Urlacher. At the beginning of the year I believed that anything less than a playoff berth would be failure and a step down from where Lovie had this team. Trestmans offensive scheme is cute but he has failed in a major way to lead the rest of the team. I believe he even failed us on offense because there were a couple of games that his approach cost us wins. I’ve seen enough to know that this team could go nowhere fast. You can’t replace players like peanut, Lach, Briggs, Peppers overnight. I predict three more years of seasons like this one and even then, it’s gonna be a crapshoot as to whether or not we’ll sport a legitimate contender.

      • gpldan

        During Lovie, we had 48 different combinations at safety and when we finally developed a decent FS in Manning, we let him go. Manning developed in spite of Lovie who moved him everywhere and mind fucked the kid.

        We may have sub-par safety play, but let’s not look at Lovie with the rose colored glasses because our D sucked this year.

        Losing Collins was big. Paea is busting, he had one good year but yesterday he played most snaps and had 0 tackles and 0 assists. He was Flatbread again.

        Bostic was not drafted to play Mike, losing DJ Williams hurt. Peanut was washed up physically and the Bears didn’t want to see it. Pep checked out this year, which is why I said cut him at the end of last year and everyone said I was nuts on this blog.

        And – all that put aside, if you are a player who wants to go to Canton eventually – bad mouthing the one team you played for is not the way to do it. He’s not Butkus.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Yeah, the whole Urlacher/Lovie thing is getting out of hand. There is a REASON why Urlacher didn’t get looked at by other team, and also a REASON why the Bears didn’t bring him back. With the attitude that he has now about the team, why in the world would you want that in the locker room/field if that is how he feels towards them? How much better could he possibly make this team with him being mostly on the sideline because he has been injured for most of the time the past few years?

          Oh, and there is a REASON why Lovie doesn’t have a job in the NFL….the NFL has changed and Lovie could not adapt, but thankfully the Bears organization realized that. Give Trestman and Emery another year to see how this pans out.

          If many of you understand the dynamics and complexity that is of coaching, a side-lined player can only do so much as to teach and give pointers to other players, but other than that, they really can’t be getting in the way of the head coaches and the others coaches philosophy during the course of the game. I wouldn’t want 10 guys to be telling me what is needed to be done. Also, a great player on the field does not always equate to be a great leader on the sideline. Many NFL greats have shown that…

          • Irish Sweetness

            There was a lot of negative press around Lac as he was looking for a job. He was more valuable to the Bears than he was to any other organization, period. He was needed in there to mentor somebody behind him, make the calls onfield. Emery blew that one. Our defensive talisman didn’t get transitioned out of chicago so much as airlocked. It was a piss-poor way to treat a legendary player I thought, no class. Say what you like about the player, but the organization should be bigger than that. There was no dinner, no watch, they just mugged him in an alley (admittedly with a cheque for two million dollars).

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Yes, naturally he was more valuable to the Bears than to any other organization because he knew the system in and out. However, if even the Bears didn’t need him and then hence, other teams didn’t need him, then that’s plain and simple-it was over. No one knows exactly what went on in the negotiation talks, but a team’s business needs comes first and foremost and if they felt that for the amount of money he demanded greatly impacted the team’s ability to function or get something done, then that’s it. Move on.

            With the way Urlacher handled things as of late, he’s just as unprofessional as anyone else with a chip on their shoulder. The Bears moved on…he should too. With all those god awful commercials he is in, and all of the commentating/analyst job he has now….Urlacher will be fine.

          • Still a Doug Plank Fan

            Nooooooooo…Jamie Dukes said Lovie isn’t coaching this year due to racism.

            Geez, get yer facts straight……

      • Viva

        Here is Lovie’s Bio Trac:
        Offense: Terry Shea, Ron Turner, Mike Martz, Mike Tice
        Defense: Ron Rivera, Babbage Patch, after demoting Babich Patch he hired himself as the DC finally settling on Rod Marinelli.
        The only coordinator he ever really got right was Dave Toub, and Lovie deserves alot of credit for that.
        Lovie Smith was mediocre against equally talented teams, but was brutal when facing a HC who knew how to game plan 3 phases of a football game.

        • BerwynBomber

          I would give Lovie solid marks for DCs. Only Babbage Patch was a negative. I also thought Martz was better than he was given credit for on the O end. Yeah, he was weird and stuck in his ways but the O was playing decently that year until Caleb Hanie time and Hanie was not Martz’s choice.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Right, but being “weird and stuck in your ways” is not OK in the modern NFL anymore.

          • Still a Doug Plank Fan

            Disagree as much as I can do it here…Martz was a disaster. Old ways that did not, would not, could not work. It was just another chapter in the “Kill Cutler” playbook.

          • BerwynBomber

            I recall the O moving the ball reasonably well that year until Hanie came off the bench. And if nothing else, Martz was miles better than Tice.

          • Still a Doug Plank Fan

            No argument with Martz better than Tice. Hell, no OC at all would have been better than Tice.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Martz was the opposite of Don Shula – tailor your offense to the talent you have.

        • MB30SD

          Lovie smith is the definition of consummate mediocrity.

          The ONLY record he should be held to is his w/l vs team make up. Always beat the bad ones, sometimes beat the middlin ones, never beat the good ones. He was hired to beat the packers and he won how many of those games… 3?

          Fuck love smith trac… fuck him right in his clueless, glazed over face.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Yeah…..if anyone else comes onto a press conference and says it’s “their job to beat ‘x’ team”, I am going to dismiss them forever. You have a job to get your team to the superbowl and win it. Not beat just one team in your division, lmao. There are 2 other teams you gotta beat too!

        • Irish Sweetness

          Rivera is probably coach of the year.

    • BerwynBomber

      Much as Lach was our best player since Payton, and also a first-ballot HoFer, he was always a bit of the surly d-bag. Never bothered me much but the fact that he is bitter and taking potshots at the new regime doesn’t surprise. And hey, if he still has that gig at Fox, it probably makes for decent TV.

      • MB30SD

        best player since payton.. hmmmmm…. first ballot… hmmmmm….

        • BerwynBomber

          Not an Urlacher fan?

          • MB30SD

            was… guy’s a fucking meathead and a dbag.

            That said, I don’t think he makes the hall that easily.

          • BerwynBomber

            I always thought he was those things but he was a MFer of a player. Interesting opinion on the Hall. I disagree but we’ll see.

      • Irish Sweetness

        People jump on him for his personality. Butkus wasn’t a nice person either by all accounts. I never cared for people’s character assessments on players – as long as they were tough and they did their best, that’s all I care about. I do find it strange that the biggest Bear in two decades got a lot of lead in the back from bear fans out in that alley …. it was brutal.

    • BillW

      Lovie looks good in comparison to Tucker, no doubt. But I think in his absence we are exaggerating the defense. M aybe I’m wrong, but the comment made about all the saftey combos is what I’m thinking about. And have we fogetten Archuletta?? The defense was much better for sure but that’s not saying much.

    • Still a Doug Plank Fan

      Next time you chat with Lach, just casually mention the 2005 playoff game against Carolina. Not one of Brian’s better days (I was at that game), and Jake Delhomme looked like Peyton Manning.

  • gpldan

    Thayer on Mully this morning with even stronger words.

    He’s really taking the fight up with the NFL now. He asked a couple ex-NFL refs and everybody agreed – the NFL calls that play a forward pass every year except this one.

    He didn’t stop there. He essentially questioned the integrity of the NFL refs, said that the game yesterday hurts the integrity of the league itself. The lack of the ball being spotted at the one was a single thing – but the forward pass thing really sticks in his craw because he’s sure the NFL rules committee rules that a forward pass this off season and marks that as a blown call. He’s going to petition it to rule on that play.

    • MB30SD

      I will def watch… it’s football after all, but 100% with you on the refs and their arbitrary calls. seems this year it’s much worse.

      Also seems that a few teams are usually the recipients of some bullshit calls to either keep games interesting and/or just give the darling teams a bit of a bump.

      Maybe it’s conspiracy theory, but stranger things have happened… like putting thousands of human beings at risk of brain damage to continue collecting profits… or something.

    • BillW

      Next year they BETTER have reviews in a central place. I still think – and have for years – that the ref is reluctant to overrule his own crew on judgement calls. If they clearly miss something that they can’t be blamed for (like the tip of a ball hitting the ground even though they called it complete) then no porblem. But the touchback was a case of him seeing what he expected to see and not what was really there. And that has happend SEVERAL times throughout the league this year.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Yeah, especially with the speed of the game AND the scrutiny of the mass media….you would think that even the refs would think “Shit, I may have called it wrong, but I am all for a replay helping us getting this call right”. If it’s all about the angle of view and the perception of it, then replay is there to help the referees!

        Most people know that the human eye can’t keep track of the things that you see, but if a replay is used properly, then teams and fans on both side will have to just accept the outcome of what is SEEN!

        • burntorangenavyblue

          *what is SEEN by the replay

    • Irish Sweetness

      I don’t watch the playoffs or Superbowl unless we’re in them. The Bears take up enough of my time as is without watching a bunch of prima donnas I have nothing invested in.

    • Rodgers Dead

      I was screaming that it was a forward pass because the ball moving forward in the air was not the result of pep’s hand hitting it. It was because Rodgers follow through pushed it forward. I would have loved a fumble return but technically it was a forward pass. Mike Pereira said the rule correctly and then proceeded to completely ignore that Rodgers’ fucking hand hits the ball forward….
      laughing my ass off at the incompetency. The ball not being spotted at the one was truly special.

      • gpldan

        I find Pereria’s presence on shows creepy. He’s there to be a spin man for the ref debacle. He’s the Larry Mayer of the NFL.

        After the scab refs, the NFL can’t be having games decided on blown calls. If the NFL review committee takes up that play, and I think politics will prevent that play from getting a post-season review – but let’s just say it does – and they mark it incorrect – then what? Bears lost the post-season on a blown call?

        No. They can’t do that. Makes them look too bad. They will defend and evade and no matter what doors that Thayer and others pound on, the NFL will bury that play and forget it happened.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          If enough owners feel otherwise, then they can make something happen with how replay reviews are done. But I hope to freaking god they don’t hire Mike P. to be the central replay guy, that would be distasterous bc he seems to already be influenced by the media and in what they want to hear to generate that buzz.

  • BerwynBomber

    Here are the Bears list of opponents for 2014. Didn’t know they got these things out so quickly:

    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/12/29/2014-chicago-bears-schedule/

    • Trac

      That schedule has 9-7 written all over it.

      • George Hernandez

        7-1 at home, 2-6 away.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Yeah, brutal away schedule, unless the other teams wheels fall off. Looks like no Florida trip for the team though. Anyone know who has the across the pond game next year?

          6-2 Home
          3-5 Away

          • BerwynBomber

            Doesn’t look that brutal. We get the AFC East, which is generally NE and three sub-pars teams. Granted, the rest of the NFC North gets that division too but should set us up well in the WC race (if we can’t win the division).

          • SC Dave

            What’s more important is how we do against the NFC South, since conference games count more in the tie-breakers and in swatting back competitors for the two wild card slots.

        • Rodgers Dead

          you don’t even know who the fuck is going to be on the team next year and you’re predicting?
          Please tell me which stock I should dump from my portfolio George. I’m not going to tell you which positions I hold but I’d like your advice on which ones are going to hurt me in 2014.

      • Rodgers Dead

        laughable to predict. The whole D is going to be different.

    • Johnathan Wood

      you can already look 2-3 years down the road and know 14 of their 16 games.
      Only ones up in the air every year are the last 2 games, which depend on how teams finish in the division.

      Every year you play 6 in division, 4 against one division from AFC (rotates, so play each division every 4 years), and 4 against one other division from NFC (rotates, so play each division every 3 years). Then the last 2 are against the teams in the other 2 NFC divisions that finished in same spot as you.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        How are the away/home games decided? Is that random or based on the same schedule formula?

        • Johnathan Wood

          it’s random for the other divisions you play. the last two games are pre-assigned.

          So every NFCN team goes to an NFCW team and hosts an NFCE team next year.

      • BerwynBomber

        Didn’t know that. Thanks for the knowledge share.

  • gpldan

    Also, according to the post-game with Bowman – Conte’s position was a blown communication. Conte did the wrong thing, a mental error. Not sure if Tucker has ruled on that, I doubt he will. Conte has not taken responsibility either.

    • Still a Doug Plank Fan

      Hey man, thanks for that update/rundown (no pun intended). I was wondering about that all morning, but hadn’t had the time to look it up. That changes my humanitarian defense of Conte completely.

      Too much on the line for that kind of stupid. I could forgive the missed pick, since he snagged that one on GB’s 1st drive in the end zone. Cannot let the blown coverage run on by, though (I’m on a real roll this morning)…

    • Rodgers Dead

      when he refused to talk to the media and no one in the DB ranks had anything to say that was all she wrote.

  • BerwynBomber

    The best news today is no news coming out of Detroit. Shorts still reigns!

    • MB30SD

      eeeeexcellent! That official?

      • BerwynBomber

        Not official but so far he survives. Heard Schefter on ESPN this morning and he said, beyond bad management (which he didn’t mention), one of the things that might save Shorts is that the Kittens owe him 12M and don’t want to eat it.

  • IBNO

    On the officials: Buck said at one point that this was the crew that was struggling & had been involved in so much controversy. And THAT’s the team the NFL decided to assign to a game that would determine the winner of a Division?

  • IBNO

    Draft/FA needs (in approximate order, with no knowledge of who/what will be available):

    FS
    DE
    CB (assuming the Bears can only re-sign Peanut OR Jennings)
    SS
    DT
    DT
    Center
    DE
    Little burner WR
    TE

    I hate to say it, because I think Earl is great and completely under-utilized, but he can’t stay on the field. It’s time to part ways with him. Wilson gets a shot.

    • BerwynBomber

      Said this yesterday but I’d look at an LB before I would an WR, TE or C. Still not sure we have anything in Bostic or Greene.

      • IBNO

        I agree with you there… LB is still in flux. BUT I think the defensive problems are more solvable with improvements on the line and in the secondary. A fast (dare I say, Knox-like) WR can stretch opposing defenses and make the offense truly great.

        • Rodgers Dead

          we just picked up the speed guy. Read yo news son.

      • Irish Sweetness

        McClellin to OLB.

    • IBNO

      Oh, and bye-bye, Pepp. And Podlesh. Keep Conte for specials, but write off Wright (dude needs to learn how to wrap up… missed at least 3 tackles yesterday because he just tried to hit and not tackle).

    • Johnathan Wood

      Earl had no injuries this year. A part-time role suits him nicely. The only reason to move on from him is $$.

      DL is the #1 priority for defense (and therefore the team). This same S duo started all year last year on a great D. It all starts upfront. A great DL covers up other problems.

    • Rodgers Dead

      Wilson will be in Florida getting JACKED with Marshall. We just picked up the little burner/KR/PR that everyone wants so badly. 5’8 180 little fucking speed monster Chris Williams. We just stole him from the Saints who got him right before us when a Canadian Court granted him his get the fuck out of the CFL card a couple months ago.

  • BillW

    Trestman strikes me as a “glass half full” guy; not necessarily good for a football coach; reminds me of Jauron – who stuck with Shoop. Tucker might be Tretman’s Shoop; if he’s not fired then Trestman is dealing in naive hope and not taking control of the situation. Said it before – we will be calling for Trestman to be fired before the end of the 2014 season. He will waste all this offensive firepower by being a puzzling and ineffective head coach.

    • Bears-4-Ever

      Way to early to start talking about booting Trestman. The Offense has improved by leaps and bounds and some of that has to be credited to Trestman. Our hurt and non-run stopping Defense has much of the blame on their shoulders this year. Answer me this. If you took this years Offense and had Last years Defense what kind of team would we have right now? I think the Playoffs would be a given and I think a lot of teams would be shitting their pants about now praying someone eliminates the Bears before they have to play them in the playoffs.
      What really hurts the very most is that Rogers had to come back, in our house, and throw a blown coverage play to win it. That stings…

      • BillW

        Of course the offense is light years ahead of last year. Becuase Trestman is an offensive genius (I mean that sincerely). But he placed NO emphasis or accountability on the defense. The game yeaterday – as I heard more than one commentator say – was a microcosm of the poor play and lack of awarements / discipline on the defense.

        Trestman is the HEAD coach, or so the defense getting worse as the year goes on is at least in part on him.

        “If you took this years Offense and had Last years Defense what kind of team would we have right now?” So what? If Lovie had this year’s offense he’d be coaching still. But he didn’t because he showed he didn’t think it was all that necessary. Does Trestman think defense is important enough to start paying attention to it? I hope so, but I doubt it.

        • Still a Doug Plank Fan

          I always like your posts Bill, but I think you’re tenure as a fan is jading you a little too much, maybe?

          Trestman got dealt a very, very shitty to shittier hand on D as season went on. Lost his leaders completely, lost the pass rush altogether. Tell me, who was he supposed to go get off of F/A or practice squads by game 5?

          Seriously, your question, “…does Trestman think defense is important enough to pay attention to it”? then suggesting the answer is probably “no” is too far out of left field for me. He’s an NFL Head Coach. He’s going to go after that Defense hard and early. Mark it.

          Bear down man!

          • BillW

            If Tucker is fired I beleive that. If not, I don’t.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Remember Trestman was required to keep the scheme of the D and most of its players/personnel intact as much as possible, so it was still part Trestman’s fault, and part upper management’s fault.

          • Trac

            Like I said, bad things happen when people try to ride the coat tails of others. For example, look what happened to al goreleoni.

      • Maddbearfan

        Amen Brother..Amen!!!

    • MB30SD

      I don’t want this to seem like a projected attack because I’m pissed about last night, because it’s not. I’ve been holding back for a while and I’ve even defended you before Bill because you seem like a nice decent normal guy, but I can’t take it any more.

      Stop being such a negative pussy. You constantly come on to whine and be negative and you just come off as a passive aggressive vagina.

      At least dave fully bought in with his monkey poo crazy garbage last night. Jesus bill, sack the fuck up and stop being a douche. Oh, and your post was ridiculous.

      I’m sorry.

      • BillW

        We’ll see how it plays out; I’ve seen this before many many many times – Dooley, Gibron, Armstrong, Wanny, Jauron, Lovie. (Not Pardee or Ditka).
        If Trestman has the guts to fire Tucker then I will have been proven wrong in that area and I’d start rethinking. But I am certain he keep him and give him the benefit of the doubt. Again – there is NO player on that defense that is better today becuase of Mel Tucker. And there are some that look worse.
        Yeah – I’m being negative but only because I can play this out in my mind and see where it’s heading. Just like I did with Jauron and Lovie and I got that from Wanny’s “all the pieces are in place”.. Teams are nortorious for being over-confident (cocky) without any thing to back it up.
        8-8 should have EASILY been 10-6. EASILY. The fact that it wasnt’ indicates poor coaching overall. Don’t fail to see the forrest for the trees. Once the season is over you can’t look at individual plays and say “gee – we were SO close”. The coaches have to look at the season as a FAILURE. And in that sense it’s better they lost because they could kid themselves into thinking they are better than they are.
        I don’t mind the name calling – it comes with the territory. But I’d rather you give me solid evidence that I’m wrong.

        • MB30SD

          There is no evidence bill. next year’s team will be totally different.

          Banking your future on the past is as ridiculous as not heeding the past to learn from it and get better.

          I don’t mind that you feel the way you do, but common man. Constantly being negative and the way you do it is painful to read after a while. Some positivity once in a while would be refreshing no matter what you’ve been through as a fan.

          You can always be a browns fan maings.

        • gpldan

          I don’t disagree that Trestman blew two games this year.

          But you are missing how invested Emery is in the guy. They are soul mates, older guys who were overlooked most of their lives and now are getting this late in life shot at the prize.

          No – those two are hooked up at the altar. This goes 4 more years, at the very least – and we may agree that Trestman does odd stuff, but he put a proper playbook in, and next year it will get deeper and more complex. There is no defense against big wide outs save to draft big corners, and we have two.

          But get used to it, the fucker can come out without his hat on and make the kids in the stands cry with his cryptkeeper look, he can dress up as the Grinch for Xmas, he can go 2-14 next year – and he’s coming back.

        • Irish Sweetness

          The chances we get the same defensive battering from injuries isn’t high … added to that a defense-heavy draft, new DC and some quality FA additions, and we should be pretty good.

  • SC Dave

    Coverages get blown, receivers drop balls, running backs fall down, lucky bounces happen, gusts of wind push field goals wide – in other words, shit happens.

    But the entire team just stopping without a whistle? Seriously!?

    My memory is not what it used to be but The Fumble is the worst play I can remember in 48 years watching the Chicago Bears.

  • One other thing I keep thinking about on the fumble is that GB got lucky it happened on their sidelines. I imagine if it were on the Bears sideline, with the coaches and team screaming to pick it up, they would have taken it and brought it back for a TD.

    • CanadaBear

      Good point!

    • Still a Doug Plank Fan

      That it had to be “adjudicated” by EITHER sideline was just appalling.

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    The Scwhartz is no longer with us! Just got fired according to NFL Net.

    • BerwynBomber

      Ah, shit. The Kittens have half a brain after all.

      • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

        Yeah, I was hoping they’d keep him.

        Fraizer seemed to get a bad deal. I’m sure he wasn’t the one who wanted Ponder.

        • BerwynBomber

          Semi-agree about Leslie. But then again, I don’t know if Minny lost a fantastic HC either. But yes, Shorts was a no-brainer.

        • gpldan

          You think Ponder was a Zyggi call?

    • gpldan

      Fuck.

      Maybe he can make money in a PPV with Harbaugh. Cage match.

  • MB30SD

    the blood bath continues.

    Bucs cleaned fucking house, shanhan gone as predicted.

    • BerwynBomber

      I thought Schiano might catch a break. TB closed competitively and hard to know how much of the Freeman stuff was on Schiano.

      • MB30SD

        guy just seemed like such an asshole. Probably more due to his locker room from what I read. They def picked it up a little at the end, but his locker room was a mess

  • gpldan

    Shanny and Son done.

    No shock there, the Snyder Circus rolls on.

  • Irish Sweetness

    And the DBB fantasy Football league was won by ……Tony Fiametta -Worldpeace Kiss My Butkus 4v85

    Murph was second.

    I was third .. .and that was that.

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      And for the record, I am Fiametta-WorldPeace (see what I did there?)

      It’s ironic because I only won 6 reg season games, but got in because I tied 3 times, so on tie breakers. But once I was in the playoffs, it was on.

      It evens out though. The other two FF leagues I lost in the championship, and in those two leagues I had a 9 win team and a 13 win team. Oh well.

      Another little FF sidenote all 3 opponents in the championship round drafted McCoy.

  • CanadaBear

    We got totally screwed on some calls yesterday but “the fumble” is completely on the D. Total brain fart. I’m not big on conspiracy theories because everyone involved has to keep their mouth shut. That almost never happens. My biggest issue is the talent on the roster. We had numerous injuries but the depth was non-existent. Killed the D AND ST’s. Emery has to fix this. I’m not going to go crazy if they keep Tucker but we must switch to a 3-4 or get some badass DL men. LB’s are easier to find than badass DL men. CD either has to play LB in a 3-4 or get released. We can’t keep going down this road with him at DE. OK with Pep coming back but it has to be for 2-3 mil at most. Love to see Melt come back but for less money. Hopefully Nate comes back. Not sure about Paea. I liked Ratliff but not for a ton of money. Woot will be back. Briggs shouldn’t be harping on money this off season. All the Lach talk is either hindsight or sour grapes. Lach was right, if Lovie was here someone would have picked up that fumble. Of course, the O would have sucked big hairy moose wang but that’s another story. Lach works for Fox and he’s paid to say stuff about the Bears. If all he says is Kumbaya stuff he won’ t be employed for long. Not to put too fine of a point on things but Butkus ripped the org numerous times after he retired. Same with Sayers. It might piss us off but the truth is the truth. We had almost every bad break in the book yesterday and still almost won. If we don’t fall asleep on the fumble we win. If Conte doesn’t miss that INT we win. If Alshon makes that tough catch, we win. If B Marsh catches that pass at the end we have a much easier time with 10 seconds left. And on and on. The hardest part for me last night and again today is that the media will be giving Rodgers BJ’s all week when he was good but not great. Let’s be honest, almost any pro QB would have completed that pass to Cobb. Oh well. Emery better get it done this off season. I’m not giving up on Bostic but he missed his gap about a million times this year and that’s really troublesome. Granted the DL didn’t help but many times he just didn’t know his assignment. GO BEARS!

    • gpldan

      Nobody is saying the blown forward pass call was a conspiracy. Except Irish, who thinks the ball was pulled forward out of Rodgers hand by a moon ray machine the Chinese mafia put up there to make a killing in Vegas.

      What we are saying is that the call was blown, and the review didn’t over turn it because there is intense pressure in the NFL not to overturn calls on the field, especially big ones that result in scores, because of the scab issues and because NFL refs are just calling games scared out there because they want to keep their jobs.

      How long have you watched the game? I have 40 years in. I’ve seen that play before, and so have you. When has that NOT been an incomplete pass? I saw it happen to Warren Moon. I saw it happen to Randall Cunningham. It’s an incomplete pass. Always has been, always should be.

      For it NOT TO BE – Peppers would have had to TOUCH THE FUCKING BALL. And he doesn’t. He hits Rodgers arm. Chinese gambling moon ray machines aside, it’s the force Rodgers applies to the ball that makes it fly as far as it does.

      If we call that a fumble, we’re just re-inventing the fucking game.

      • CanadaBear

        Not saying it wasn’t a bad call but there is no conspiracy. Just a bad call. The whistle never blew. The refs didn’t stop any Bears player from picking it up. BTW I have 50+ years of watching the Beloved. Not trying to one-up ya, just older.

        • gpldan

          A well coached team picks up the ball and holds it

      • MB30SD

        say, where can i get me one of thems chinese moonray machines?

      • beninnorcal

        Also, can’t you not push a fumble forward then recover it? I, too, thought the play was BS, and that was also the play that won the game.

      • Irish Sweetness

        You see those photos from the Chinese lander? ? It makes the ones of the lunar surface NASA released 40 years ago look like crayon reproductions.

        I wonder will the Chinese air-brush out the bases too.

        Ahhhh, the off-season.

  • BillW

    I don’t know about you guys, but I am really PUMPED UP for next year!! The offense will of course get only better and will break all the franchise records they set this year. After all, no one will get hurt on that side of the ball except maybe our $16 million QB, and we can easily go 3-2 again with his $5 million backup.

    And who cares how much of a salary cap hit all that takes?? The defense will ROCK with Mel Tucker solidly in place for his second year and Emery’s steller record drafting and acquiring FA defensive talent.

    I’m sure Trestman will display his game day brilliance again. And his nice guy approach is paying off so well with the players! Who needs a coach who holds players accountabile for their actions! Chris Conte is sorry he screwed up and I’m sure Treatman will give him anouther 16 chances next year. (Good thing he did this year, that’s for sure!)

    11-5 or even 12-4 with a trip to the NFC Championship game, where Cutty finally beats the Packers.
    (Better MB?)

    • gpldan

      Sarcasm doesn’t suit ya’

    • MB30SD

      here’s my deal bill.

      It was the first year with an inherited D and D players… and a DC who wasn’t interested in being a good DC in someone else’s scheme… or he’s just dogshit. And THEN we lost about 7 starters and 3 pro bowlers to injury.

      Why don’t we give phil and trest the offseason to rebuild the D, get healthy, and hopefully bring in a good/great DC who brings his own better scheme with him… then let them play some football next year, and if you’re right you can bask in all of your rightness and the sad state of our chicago bears. And you can rightfully whine about your season tickets that you’ve had since the 20’s and what a rip they are and how this org is shitting on all of us.

      I think giving this regime a second year, and the first year of complete individuality from the last regime, to prove themselves is a fair deal… don’t you?

      • BillW

        My response didn’t go through; won’t retype it all but in a nutshell –
        Two years is more than fair; of course.

        Impatient given my age and desire to see a SB with my sons old enough to appreciate it. Like I had with my dad.

        Thought this regime would do it but looks too much like a bizarro version of Lovie’s.

        Hope I’m wrong; will be back on once they announce what happens with Tucker. (I know there is nothing to announce if they keep him but the reporters are sure to ask.)

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Your whole point fell apart when you are being sarcastic about accountability because if anything, the Lovie/Angleo regime had NO ACCOUNTABILITY! What do you expect from a product like Conte when he was drafted by Lovie/Angelo? One who’s stats in college would earn a “He did what?…oh who are we talking about again” comment. The Bears had no depth to replace Conte even if he just sat there on the field and did nothing, which he pretty much did. So go lighten up and enjoy your day. Try to put something positive on your mind

      • BillW

        You’re right – Lovie/Jerry didn’t hold people accountable as they should either. So that makes Trestman OK in that area? That’s what makes my point fall apart? Lovie/Jerry’s bad results somehow makes my point fall apart? Becuase someone else was just as bad or worse.

        Same bad logic with Conte – someone plays as bad as Conte gets BENCHED (with a strong coach). After all, if he got hurt he’d be replaced by someone, right? A coach can lose a team if he lets too many players get away with making mistakes game after game. There has to be consequences – not “pride in the effort”.

        • SC Dave

          You have to assume that the coaching staff, for whatever reason, thought Conte was their best bet.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Only if we can get McCown signed … we need two guys that can play the position to make a champeenship run. Ford will get more work. Martellus was injured this season I think.Frey, Greene and Bostic will step up … maybe CD replaces Briggsy. DJ there for depth … the draft .. .should be good for 11-5 next season, 12-4. Cutty must come with McCown though. They’re a good package. 30 and 33. Just right.

  • NewBearInTown

    Lovie Smith will get hired somewhere this year. What worries me is that Detroit (moreso than Minny) seems like a great landing spot for him. I’m hoping he goes to Tampa, but the Lions could make a play.

    I think Lovie’s attitude will quiet a lot of the bonehead penalties on both sides of the ball. And for all the hype about “its a passing league” it seems to me that a Stafford/Johnson offense pretty much runs itself. The thought of a Lovie Smith HC with Norv Turner as OC is not pleasant.

    Heh… its the Lions. Maybe they hire Schiano.

    • gpldan

      Kubiak was handed two teams with the talent to win it all. Kubiak massively underachieved.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      I’m pretty sure Stafford and Johnson will say, “HELL FUCKIN NO WAY!”

  • MB30SD

    “chicken” is a euphemism for “douchey puss bag”…. right?

    http://www.tmz.com/2013/12/28/boyz-ii-men-aaron-rogers-forgive-chicken-bet-49ers-packers-green-bay/

  • MB30SD

    fuck you wisconsin

    props to the guy in the back with the McCown jersey.

  • MB30SD

    here’s one for dave

  • MB30SD
  • TheBigCheesy

    Pretty crazy game. Rodgers having: Red Zone INT, multiple INT game, AND an epic 4th quarter comeback? Each of those are few and far between throughout his career. And then Cutler not turning the ball over???

    I thought Cutler had a very impressive 2nd half. However, his offense was unforgivably inept in the first half. I also wonder how much of cutler’s success had to do with Matt forte. Cutler really didn’t start to get it going until forte took over the game. I have to assume Green Bay devoted more resources to stopping the run after that point.

    Ultimately, I think the bears are making a huge mistake if they pay him more than $15mil/per year (which is what I think they’ll have to so). Josh McCown played long enough and well enough to prove that a dramatically cheaper alternative can perform well enough in trestman’s offense to feel good about letting jay walk and spending the money on defense.

    • NewBearInTown

      It was a great game. You guys have a great QB, and 4 minutes is way too long to give him on a game ending drive. But the Packers did catch some breaks… the fumble and the roughing the passer call come to mind. But you’ve got a good team, we’ll see you next year when hopefully both teams get a full season in good health.

      Forte is the motor that makes this offense go. That’s why I think Emery isn’t done upgrading the O-line yet, we still need to improve our power run game. Not sure what the move will be, but we’ll see more from him in that department over the off-season.

      As to the McCown comment.,, A good D and run game gets you far in the NFL, but you have to be able to air it out to win the big dance. The Texans are a great example of that, so are the Chiefs. Lovie would have been the coach for us if our strategy was to run the ball with a caretaker QB. We got Trestman, we’ll get Jay.

      • Rodgers Dead

        Bears picked up Joe Long, brother of Miami’s Jake Long. He is a raw prospect but has a ton of upside. They also got him for a sandwich comprised of ham. Kromer will mold and shape him into a blunt object to pummel people with.

        • bearsfantillend

          Jake Long is in St. Louis this year playing with Chris Long – Kyle’s brother. kind of weird.

          • Rodgers Dead

            you are thinking of Chris Long.

          • bearsfantillend

            nope, Jake Long and Chris Long both play for St. Louis this year. Kyle Long and now Joe Long play for the Bears.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Best game I’ve seen in a while, had it all, and we didn’t stink it up, just a good game to watch.

  • MB30SD

    aaaaanyway….

    how about a little laugh today fellas: http://www.mandatory.com/2013/12/30/our-absolute-favorite-tweets-of-2013/

    • MB30SD

      my fav so far…

      “@Lowenaffchen
      *affixes a second leash to a hot babes dog while shes tying her shoe* would you look at that. we have the exact same dog. this is incredible”

  • BillW

    From Mark Potash today:
    http://www.suntimes.com/24669335-761/10-observations-on-offseason-priorities-for-the-chicago-bears.html
    ‘‘You have to give the Packers credit,’’ Trestman said, ‘‘they came back, were able to convert on three fourth downs. And Aaron Rodgers made the play that a player like him can make. He found a way to win the game with a great play.
    ‘‘Very disappointed for our players. Very disappointed for our fans. But really proud of the effort they put in [against the Packers].’’
    (My comment: PROUD of the “effort”? Did they all get trophies and go out for pizza? There were breakdowns all over the place: 30 yard punt. Fourth and 8 for the playoffs. PROUD of that?- even on offense: 3 and 17. Missed 3rd down conversions. This was a game where EVERY drive was critcal and they didn’t play like it. Most thought they’s need over 30 to win and that was true and even the offense didn’t deliver what was needed, even though they are clearly not to blame for the loss. But PROUD of the “effort”? “Effort” doesn’t win football games and if these guys need a pat on the back for “effort” then they are wasting money and space on the Bears.)

    More from Potash:
    The disappointing finish casts a more critical light on Trestman
    Now, his choice of Mel Tucker as defensive coordinator appears dubious; his curious decision to have Robbie Gould attempt a 47-yard field goal on second down in overtime against the Vikings looks like an even more disastrous move; and all those one-hour practices and extra days off make him look too much like Lovie Smith.
    But the way this season ended, Trestman has even more to prove now than when he arrived. The Bears wouldn’t have done any better if they had kept Lovie Smith. But with Bruce Arians — Phil Emery’s runner-up to Trestman who just went 10-6 with the Arizona Cardinals and nearly beat the 49ers at home on Sunday?

    Unless Emery steps in, it’s unlikely that Marc Trestman will fire Tucker after one season as defensive coordinator, but the notion no longer is off the table after a disastrous finish to a difficult season.
    Even relative to the injuries, this was an embarrassing defensive season for the Bears
    Tucker was expected to at least stem the tide with teaching and motivation and technique, but failed on every count. Players consistently were in the wrong position. Tackling was worse than it ever was under Lovie Smith. And the failure to pick up a fumble against the Packers — turning a would-be Bears touchdown into a Packers touchdown — was the most damning indictment of all.

    • Trac

      “But the way this season ended, Trestman has even more to prove now than when he arrived.”

      In my opinion, a whole year got wasted. The window on this D has closed. It will take us 3 years to get us back to where it was last year.

      • Rodgers Dead

        it doesn’t need to be even half of what it was last year so technically does that mean we can do it in 1year? Meaning 1 offseason? this offseason?

        • Trac

          Not trying to be doom and gloom but building our defense ain’t gonna be easy, our specials are skitzo, bordering on bad. I’m no way trying to pull lovie back into this thing but we in heap deep trouble.

          • Rodgers Dead

            Luckily we have :
            1. Cliff Stein
            2. A Grapes of Wrath league with plenty of low cost vet options available
            3. tons of cash to spend
            4. no real needs on O so all attention can be spent on D

          • SC Dave

            It would be nice to get a new punter.

      • Irish Sweetness

        We need a good defensive line, namely two DTs and a #1 DE. The rest will follow.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Seriously, get that copy and pasting an almost full article crap off this blog, we know how to click and read the articles ourselves. Posting something like that does not prove your point any further than that the writer of the article has his head up his ass. It is just ONE season of results, and with what Trestman has done with the offense and the tools in place, the defense will be taken care of.

      Why should I give a damn what the runner-up head coach candidate did for the other team? While you’re at it, are you going to put put all of the statistical evidence of the players the Bears should have drafted the past 2 years to prove your “point”?

      • MB30SD

        thiiiiiiiiiis.

      • gpldan

        If the Bears HAD drafted Chandler Jones, they’d have probably ruined him.

        Exhibit A: Woot. A guy with talent to play LDE and we make him a 3-tech – which he does well at even though he’s obviously a DE.

        Hopefully, he gets the fuck PAID this year – shit like that is a career wrecker and he did it because the team needed him to. Bears don’t even know what they got when they got it.

      • BillW

        Sorry – I posted the parts that showed I wasn’t alone in thinking Trestman will keep Tucker and it’s a mistake. Doesn’t make me right (or wrong).
        “The defense will be taken care of”. Based on what evidence? I hope you’re right. While I’m not a football coach, I clearly saw NO effort on the HEAD COACH’S part to improve things on defense. They weren’t just bad – they were HISTORICALLY bad and never got ANY better – in fact got worse.

        • bearsfantillend

          When even your backups are getting injured what the hell do you expect!!!! When you are relying on multiple ROOKIES as LBs what the hell do you expect!!!! Do you not see the issues were INJURIES? Oh and you quote a Chicago NEWSPAPER analyst as someone who thinks like you, not good! Those guys think the doom and gloom negative shit sells papers so they keep putting that crap out there. When was the last time they praised anything that happened in Chicago in any sport. Its plain and simple, they think they are paid to be negative.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            He got that article from the Doom-Times

          • BillW

            There are a few (very few) good ones. Potash I think is one. Biggs though is by far the best.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Because they used most of their offseason moves on OFFENSE! The results SHOWS! So if they do mostly the same on the other side of the ball, hence, possible POSITIVE results on defense!

          The Bears have all offensive weapons and tools ready to go. The only piece needing an upgrade is maybe, just maybe, the center. Bears can focus most of the draft and free agency on defense. Believe me, there’s going to be a big splash with defensive free agents because those players know that the Bears have the money, AND THE CHANCE at making a big push into contention next year. With the canning of several coaches, we should have no problem finding a strong d-minded former head coach replacing Tucker if need be, and the right D-coordinator will also help our free agency/drafting prospect

          You probably thought exactly this one year ago that the offense was in the shitters and that there was NOTHING that could change anything except that the firing of Lovie was a dumb idea, and who in the world could possibly replace him?

          • MB30SD

            bin…. go.

          • BillW

            Actually I thought firing Lovie was needed and that an offensive coach like Trestman was needed. We were heading in the right direction (still are).

            My problem is Tucker (and Trestman IF he keeps him). A good DC will take a bad players and at least make him better. If they aren’t then bench him and try it with another bad player. You don’t metaphically throw up your hands and say “not my fault”. Like all of you guys are doing.

            Look I can take insults that come from boards like this. But not to my intelligence. Or putting words in my mouth. I never said the Bears have no chance of improving on defense. I said if Trestman keeps Tucker my opinion of him as a head coach remains low. If he fires him I will rethink that.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Then you should also be more open-minded about how an organization works and the steps needed to take to move on forward. If you knew about Lovie’s flaws and that he needed to go, then I assume that you would have also thought that the defense was still going to go downhill because of 1) Age and the decline that results in it and 2) Injuries. We were plagued by them both this year. Even if Lovie stayed, I think that regardless of how hard the D would have played for him, the D would have still stunk because of how old everyone is and how injury-prone everyone was in the past few years and into now.

            You’ve had to watch Lovie for 9 years. You can wait another year or two, yes?

          • BillW

            Slight retraction. I in fact DID say there was no evidence the defense would not be taken care of. That was lazy on my part. What I meant was therte was no evidence that Trestman would see that Tucker was not a good coach (improved none of the bad players) and would not take steps to solve that by firing him.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I’d say having the worst defense in the NFL speaks as to his qualities as a coach for any book of evidence, along with the franchise-worst bunch of tacklers that there has ever been.

            We gave up 25 yards per game more than the second worst defense in the league on the ground.

            Read that last line again.

            We were in a class of our own BELOW the worst.

          • Irish Sweetness

            We absolutely need to draft a center in April, should have done it long ago.

    • Maddbearfan

      The lesson learned on that “fumble” is you keep playing till the whistle blows, but it seemed with the foward progression of the ball they all thought is was an incomplete pass..but the play wasn’t whistled dead..oops.

  • Rodgers Dead

    This just in from the “can we just shut the fuck up about the QB and Offense Situation and focus on Defense Files”:
    NEW FRANCHISE RECORDS:
    The Bears this season set a franchise record for net yards with 6,109, eclipsing the previous mark of 5,837 from 1985.

    Passing touchdowns: 32 (previous high 29 in 1995 and 1947).

    First downs: 344 (previous high 343 in 1985).

    Passing first downs: 215 (previous high 203 in 1999).

    Net yards passing: 4,281 (previous high 4,136 in 1999).

    The 445 points scored was second only to the 1985 Bears, who scored 456 points.
    The offense converted 42.1 percent of third downs and the Bears have not been better than that since 1995.

    Matt Forte established career numbers rushing for 1,339 yards (only Walter Payton has had a better season) while catching 74 passes for 594 yards.
    Alshon Jeffery finished with 1,421 receiving yards and Brandon Marshall had 1,295.
    Tight end Martellus Bennett made 65 receptions for 759 yards.
    In the first year of the system boys. No reason to fuck with that. It’s all about D.

    • gpldan

      Better re-sign Slauson, who had an even higher grade than Bushrod and get Mills locked in as well.

      Earl Bennett didn’t play this game for something going on in his personal life. I appreciate family comes first, but Earl has been off and on for a long time now, and missing the Packer game was some suckage.

      • Rodgers Dead

        Slauson said his agent was already contacted which he appreciated.
        Bushy, Long and Mills are locked in for years to come
        Earl is my guy but we can’t keep a 5th option at 2.1 Mil so he’d have to take a huge haircut. They also want to bring Marquess Wilson into the fold at 6’4 with sick ball skills ala Alshon and they have a new burner in Chris Williams.
        What the fuck happened to Earl’s family? No one knows.

      • CanadaBear

        He tweeted out last week to pray for his brother. I’m guessing it’s a life or death thing. Can’t blame a guy for being with his family at a time like that.

    • Rodgers Dead

      Also, McCown already said he wants to come back as the backup. He’ll sign for a reasonable amount and we are fucking set on O.

    • BillW

      And despite all that, the best the Bears could do was 8-8.
      Obviously no reason to change the offense. Who ever said there was??

  • underway

    Gym Shorts is out… No surprise there…

    • MB30SD

      no surprose at all my maings.

      • MB30SD

        Isn’t the edit button dreamy?

        Hahahahaha… just having a little fun with the new guy. semicolon……… close parenthesis.

        • underway

          Yeah its the anti autocomplete/anti fatfinger

        • underway

          I suprose. ….ha

  • MB30SD

    I’m i going fucking crazy today?!?! Am I!??!

    Trac, Bill, Dave… you three are trolls today. WTF are you three whining about for christ sake.

    The offense was dogshit last year and in one year and 2 off seasons we got what johnny listed below.

    Now, maybe I’m being way too much of an optimist, but let’s just say, you know, for the sake of totally casual discussion, we say that we get the following back on D:
    * TimyJ
    * Williams
    * Woot
    * Ratliff
    * Anderson
    * Briggsy
    * both rookie LBs with a year of beatdown under their belts
    * Melt on the cheapy cheap
    * Collins
    * Frey and bowman and steltz as back ups
    * MAYBE peanut

    Then we go out in FA and get:
    * A real proven FS.. maybe man mojito Rohdes (NTTAWWTATAA)
    * A badass DE or DT
    * A center

    Then in the draft, we go:
    * 1- EIther FS or DE/DT
    * 2 – SS
    * 3 – DE/DT
    * 4 – LB
    * 5 – Corner
    * 6 – Safety
    * 7 – DT/DE

    And let’s just say, you know for sake of casual discussion that all that nets us a #15 defense. I think that sounds pretty possible given the right strateegery and focus and availability of the right guys in FA and the draft.

    Now, let’s say that all happens. Show of hands that thinks we’ll be at least as good as this year?

    Another show of hands that thinks the fucking zombie apocalypse must be neigh due to the level of bat shit crazy being thrown around on this board by some. Jesus fucking christ on a god damn bike.

    • gpldan

      No offense, but this “we’ll get ’em next year” shit is getting to be weak sauce, MB.

      The Packers were as banged up as we were, no Matthews, Cobb’s first game back, Rodgers first game back, Eddie Lacy obviously not good to go.

      It was a fair fight. It was Soldier Field. Bears got beat, beat themselves, played stupid at times, blown shit, stupid shit.

      Trestman left that Minny game on the table.

      It’s not the Zombie Wars, but fuck man – this is turning into Cubs fandom to have the Pack come in here, year after fucking year, Cutty is 1-9 against them – and have the post-season swiped from under us like a peanut butter sammich from Mister Fucking Magoo.

      It’s bullshit, that’s what it is.

      Meanwhile, Bellichek has them at the 3 seed? Fuck, all I want is a little of what Boston has in the Windy City. Some people who we believe can win in the fucking league.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        You know how many coaches throughout the league have done the “left the game on the table”? You guys act like it’s NEVER suppose to happen, but apparently it doesn’t happen to first year coaches either?

        Ok, sorry about the “vote” button, when I tried to hit reply, I hit the downvote on accident, so I thought “upvoting” neutralizes it. Man, Discuss is hard to figure out sometimes, haha.

        • MB30SD

          just click it again and it will ‘unvote’

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Ok, don’t know why it’s a negative vote, lol. Bah, sorry guys

          • MB30SD

            I saw that. wtf?

            You’re the first one to break our new house. Congrats.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            I’m actually tech savvy, but sometimes I just don’t know. Sorry GP, I don’t ever downvote ppl on this blog, even if I think they’re nuts or I don’t agree with them. I think I only do that to Cheesy, but rarely. Cheers

      • MB30SD

        I get it maings, I really honestly do. I can’t tell you how livid I was at cuttler for blowing that coverage last night.

        Ok, seriously, I do get it… I HAVE to wait and see what emery does this offseason with the D. If he does with it what he did with the o last season, then we all have to give trest a year without any vestiges of lovie and angelo’s filth to prove what he can do with a complete team.

        I would argue that the packers didn’t have the level of injuries we did. Our D was totally and completely ravaged. We basically had woot and timmy j all year. Everyone else was hurt or a rookie or a camp body to plug gaps.

        Also, vadgers is the best ever man. hands down… and it’s not like he broke his throwing arm. If we expect to compare our QB to rodgers we’re fucked no matter what. sure cobb was rusty but he’s insanely fast and he ran a streak route against a guy who should be coaching JV HS football not playing FS for the bears.

        Bottom line is, this is a first year regime with a total hold over D unit. You HAVE to give the current regime their shot with their own scheme and guys… and yes, you could argue that it was their choice to get tucker and keep things the way it was, but we HAD to overhaul the O completely and just hope the d had one more year in it. It was a gamble and they lost, but I don’t see any other path to getting the o we had this year.

        I personally think emery’s going to do the same with the D next year, but there in lies the $64,000 question. If he does we’ll be scary, if he picks a bunch of CDs we’re fucked.

        I choose to believe he’s going to have a D offseason like last year’s O one… the net is that we have to wait and see and we’ll know after next year what we have at GM and HC.

        • TheBigCheesy

          It’s true that you have to give a new regime time to gel wit their own personnel and schemes.

          BUT….like jeff emphasized before the season: this was not a rebuilding year for the Bears. From 10-6 to 8-8 has to be considered disappointing.

          Obviously the offense is encouraging….but all this talk of “it’s okay we’ll just fix the D” is hilariously naive. What makes anyone believe that’s such an easy thing to do. All the 2011 packers needed to do was “fix the D”. So they spent the first 6 picks in 2012 on defense. Defense still hasn’t been fixed. And this is Ted Thompson were talking about. He has one of the greatest draft resumes in the league.

          As far as injuries go….I’m sorry but Chicago fared much better than did Green Bay. The packers lost Bulaga before the season even started. Casey Hayward (4th in DROTY voting last year) missed almost the entire year with injury. Clay matthews was anonymous playing with one hand after week 5. Randall Cobb was out for most of the year. Nick perry banged up. Am I forgetting anyone? Oh yeah, the best player in the league missed 8 games. With all that said, the packers have been so banged up since 2010 that it’s becoming something that you can count on to recurr (as opposed predicting that they’ll be healthy next year to balance it out)

          The bottom line is that aaron Rodgers missed 8 games this year and somehow the packers still won the division. The bears and lions (and even the Vikings) have to consider that a heartwrenching blown opportunity.

    • MB30SD

      yeah, I voted my own shit up. Hoop, there it is. Bitches.

      • CanadaBear

        Very lame.

      • Rodgers Dead

        voting your own shit up is like giving yourself a nickname AMIRIGHT?!!!!!????

    • BillW

      I only ride my bike when there is no water to walk on.

      There is no doubt the D will be much better next year. And not just because they can’t get much worse. I have three concerns – Emery thought McClellin was a good pick; trestman showed he has no intrest and/or knowledge of defense; Tucker could not get anybody to play any better as the year went on.

      hopefully the first is just a miss like every team has every few years; hopefully the second doesn’t matter with the right DC; hopefully that and the third is taken care of by getting someone better.

      I’m done with the negativity. Out of my system. But like gdplan, I can never again be one of those “we’ll get ’em next year” happy hopers. After all, I’ve been a Cub fan for all these years too.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        I’m a Cubs fan, but I don’t act like I’ve been a tortured soul. Geez

        • bearsfantillend

          i am not a Cubs fan but the tortured soul act from many Cubs fans is really annoying.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            What is even more annoying is that when the media blows it waaay out of proportion and want to talk about the “drought” and such when the most important part of the entire game is just the game itself….the stories surrounding it all must drive the players and their opponents bonkers.

            I think of it as “Ok, I wasn’t even close to being alive when they last won it all, but what is that going to matter to me now? Or to the players themselves for that matter?”

        • BillW

          I’m not a tortured soul Cub fan; I have ignored them for years now; they are really pretty irrelevant in my mind;The Bears will never be irrelevant to me or my kids or my grandkids; nor were they to my dad, uncle and grandfather.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Until CD demonstrates he can’t play OLB then he can’t be called a bad pick, they just mis-used him. He’s clearly not problem-causing DE.

    • CanadaBear

      Sounds like a good plan. Need to re-sign Slauson too. I’d say we go corner sooner than rd 5 if we don’t re-sign Nut and Jennings. I hope they both come back at a reasonable cost. I think Peanut has a couple of years left in him. The question is durability. I’d rather spend the early pick on a great DT or DE if they are right in our lap. If not, FS for sure. How can we not? I actually thought Wright played OK yesterday. Not great, but he did OK. He’s gone for sure. Not sure how they bring Conte back next year. People were already starting to go a little Sex Cannon on him. They will be brutal next year if he plays. His confidence is already shattered.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I’ll say it again, Peanut’s skills are best utilized at safety and not CB. He certainly couldn’t be worse than what’s there already.

  • bearsfantillend

    FIRE THEM ALL! Its Emery’s fault for not spending money that did not exist under the cap to get better depth on the D, its Trestman’s fault that the D went down the tube because he focused on the O putting the faith that the D would not shit the bed for a year, its Tucker’s fault for taking the job knowing they wanted him to be a caretaker of the previous regimes schemes for a year and for not turning an injury riddled pile of crap D into a pile of sparkling diamonds. Its Kromers fault that his line allowed the fewest number of hits on Cutler in years but still Cutler got injured. Its DeCamillis fault the ST sucked. (this one might be true) Its the trainers fault for not magically healing all the injured players,

    Who cares if the offense is light years ahead of what it has been in the last 20 years, who cares that GM focused solely on the offense for the past 2 years hoping the defense could maintain some semblance of greatness, who cares that the defense was decimated by injuries,

    All the doom and gloom i have been reading over the last couple days is depressing. We were and 8-8 team in a division that was won by a team that was 8-7-1. We had more injuries than i care to count in each level of the defense. We are an 8-8 team, and we know what the problems were this year – INJURIES. You can’t tell me if we weren’t healthier on D we wouldn’t be 10-6 or better. You can’t tell me that we would have been better with that other coach or last years coach. INJURIES were the main culprit this year. I don’t know of any coach that could have done much with that many injuries on the D. So what if the 1st time HC made a bad game decision, all coaches do, he will learn, the D will get younger and healthier, ST will get better, and so what if the GM made a bad pick compared to his many somewhat successful ones. There is HOPE! Let see what kind of magic Trestman and Emery can conjure up this offseason for the D. if it is no better next year then we should worry.

    • MB30SD

      this. exactly this.

    • Rodgers Dead

      solid post.

    • beninnorcal

      Couldn’t agree, more. The injuries on D started early and they were many.

    • BillW

      With no sarcasm, I will say this. Joe D made significant improvements in the coverage units and return units as the year went on. I suppose it’s possible that without as many injuries Tucker could do the same.

      But I am curious – if the Bears fire Tucker, how many of you will think that is an outright mistake? How many will do a Nancy Kerrigan and scream WHY? WHY??

      • CanadaBear

        i can’t imagine anyone crying if Tucker gets fired. I think it’s more on the players (injuries and backups/rookies not stepping up) but players regressed (both safeties) and that’s on the coaches. If he stays and we switch to a 3-4 I’m reluctantly OK with it. If not, he has to go.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        They will can Tucker…they just did the hire for the “status quo” of what the defense’s situation was in at the time. I’m pretty sure the Bears will can him and hire a new D-coordinator with possibly a new scheme because we all know that this one isn’t working.

        If they don’t, then who knows, but there’s still a ton of stuff that the organization CAN DO with the cap space and focus on the draft. Emery whiffed on CD, but it was his first pick. Emery did great with last year’s draft and FA for offense. Just be hopeful and get a little smile on your face knowing that he may do the same thing for the defense next year. Next year will have almost no by-products of the last regime, and that’s a refresher for me.

        • CanadaBear

          Don’t get the “Emery did great with last year’s draft”. Long and Mills were good picks. Bostic and Greene have shown next to nothing with lots of playing time. Washington couldn’t make the 46 on game day and our DL was starting guys off the street. Wilson looks like he has potential but that doesn’t pay the bills. His first draft other than Alshon was a disaster. To me Emery’s drafting is still a huge question mark.

          • bearsfantillend

            somewhat agree that his first draft was not good, but he was still implementing his front office people and figuring out his scouts, also looking at his first draft it is pretty apparent that Lovie had is grubby little fingerprints all over it.

          • CanadaBear

            Well, that’s MB’s take on it anyway. Yours too. My deal is who was the guy that had to answer for those picks? Emery. He had been scouting through that entire draft class in his previous job. He doesn’t get a mulligan for that.

          • bearsfantillend

            Phil Emery was a scout at his previous job. Scouts don’t scout the entire draft class. They are usually given regions to scout, not all of the 1000’s of possible draft picks. Therefore, when he took the GM job, he had to rely on the existing Bears Scouts. He also had to rely on the coaches to tell him what they wanted/needed. Yes, he had a good idea on the needs of the organization but the coaching staff still has some input in the needs of the team. Brandon Hardin, as a pick, has Lovie Smith’s name written all over it. Besides 3 out of 6 picks in that draft have been contributors on this years team. CD, Jeffery, and Frey. Also if Evan Rodriguez did not have troubles with the law i think he is still on the team. James Brown was also signed as a UFA that year, while he has not been used on the Oline this year he is a decent backup. Emery’s 1st draft, while not the greatest, is not the horrendous disaster that everyone makes it out to be.

          • CanadaBear

            He was head of scouting. Big difference. He would take all the reports from all the scouts. Frey was cut and re-signed. For a 6th rounder he’s OK. Didn’t think he was all that great this year at nickel. If you want to debate if CD was a decent pick I’d welcome that debate. Jeffery was a home run.

          • MB30SD

            yeeeeeees my preeeecious, yeeeeeeesssss….

            it is the lovie’s picks… it is the tice’s picks… it is the mari’s picks…. the precious is not the emery’s picks. The jeffery is the precious… it is the emery’s picks.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Right, but MOST rookies do not have starting jobs right out the gate, but Bostic was not supposed to be a starter for a long time and we all knew that. Long and Mills knew they had the starting job the moment they were drafted b/c of the situation the Bears OL was in. Usually that would help boost one’s confidence knowing exactly the role you will play as soon as possible. Bostic is a work in progress who was supposed to be an understudy to Briggs and other LBs. Gotta give the kid another year as with most draft picks that are made. 2-3 years is the time window…and we are finally out of that timeframe with the Angelo picks that are still around, which is good news for the ones that didn’t work out.

          • CanadaBear

            Same deal as above. Nothing against the rookie LB’s but they never seemed to improve. I hope they turn out great but it’s unreasonable to give Emery so much credit for drafting acumen when it’s hardly a done deal.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Agreed. Bostic, Long, Mills, Greene will all improve.

          • MB30SD

            mb stands directly across from canada. eyes staring and squinting against the midday sun. The wind blows dust and a tumble weed across the now empty, hushed streets. only loose window shutters and a singular red tail hawk can be heard cutting the tense silence like a knife. The towns people crouch behind windows and in doorways, their collective conscience affixed to the scene about to unfold.

            MB slowly moves his pancho out of the way. exposing his holstered colt 45. He takes a pull from the cheroot between his teeth and blows smoke out of the side of his mouth. HIs eyes narrow as the seconds hand of the clock makes its slow methodical march towards the top of the town hall clock.

            MB narrows his eyes into narrow slits…. the clock makes a loud CLANK onto 12 noon, and in a frenetic explosion of movement both men draw their pistols and……

            We shall see this offseason my man. Then all will be known about emery’s drafting skills.

            Btw, for the record hitting your #1 out of the park, having your #2 start almost all year, as well as your #3, and your #5. I mean, bostic and greene weren’t lighting it up, but they did the best they could given the situation. I gave his draft an A-

          • CanadaBear

            You and I will have to agree to disagree about Bostic and Greene’s play this year. I’m not giving up on either one of them but they were awful this year. Always in the wrong place, always getting caught up in the wash. Do you remember Briggs or #54 playing all season as rookies and feeling even remotely the same about these guys? That’s my issue. I’m not trying to pass judgement on either one of these guys career wise. Who knows where that goes? I just don’t think we can just go around saying Emery is some draft guru when the immediate results are mixed to say the least.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Rookies thrown into a defense with no leadership? Not their fault, Bostic has shown flashes. Greene is fast. They’ll get there.

          • Rodgers Dead

            Canada, i’m really intrigued by Marquess Wilson. He was picked in the 7th round because the idiot quit his college team and accused his coach of physical and mental abuse. Many scouts gave him a 2nd or 3rd round grade if not higher.
            Emery and the boys are giddy because the fucking kid is YOUNG. Like 20yrs old young and has a frame that can hold another 15lbs without affecting anything except making him more badass.
            The scouting report and youtube video shows that this guy has serious ball skills and field awareness like alshon. I predict additional fear boners when this guy starts in the slot this coming year.

          • CanadaBear

            I actually feel the same way about Wilson but he still didn’t play much. If he has the good sense to get together with B Marsh and Alshon over the winter, it could be unreal. Or he could go off the deep end. Who knows? He was crazy happy when he made that catch yesterday. That was a feel good moment for sure.

          • Rodgers Dead

            lol, they call him “the kid”.

          • Rodgers Dead

            they don’t even refer to him by name. He just turned 21 in Sept. They view him as the ultimate low cost project that could end up being a sick baller.

          • CanadaBear

            It will be interesting to see how Brandon is over the winter. He’s going on his last year of the contract so … He should get extra money for taking Alshon under his wing. All credit to Alshon for his great year but how often does someone of Brandon’s credentials take the time to do that for him. Hopefully Wilson is next.

          • Rodgers Dead

            Brandon was guaranteeing Jay is back then he said Jay and Brandon are back. He said, “He is my QB, we’re attached to the hip.”

          • CanadaBear

            I don’t think there’s any question that Cutler plays for the Bears next year. It’s just at what cost?

          • Rodgers Dead

            going rate for top 10 QB. it will make sense for all parties. It will be cap friendly and it will acknowledge Jay’s talent and what he’s put up with and what they’ve done this year with a couple of months together. McCown will be offered 2.25 Mil to be the backup. Bank on it.

          • CanadaBear

            Hope you’re right. Cutler played a good game yesterday and got a monkey off his back. Too bad we fucked it all up but it sure wasn’t on him. Next year when he can move around a little better, the offense should be lethal. With Cutler’s injury history we gotta have McCown and he deserves a nice raise.

          • Irish Sweetness

            The monkey is surgically attached now, he’s 1-8 against the Packers and the Bears have missed the playoffs 7 of the last 8 years.

          • CanadaBear

            Thanks for stating the obvious. In all of the other games he played like shit. He finally had a good game.

          • Rodgers Dead

            For Brandon to take him under his wing and introduce him to everyone from his nutritionist to his chiropractor to him speed guy to his masseuse is amazing. Martellus also thinks the world of Brandon and Martellus strikes me as the type of guy that doesn’t sugar coat if he doesn’t like or respect someone.

          • CanadaBear

            The Bear’s were due to hit on one of those questionable character guys. All the others ended up bad. We got Brandon at the exact right time. Good on Emery for that one! He’s been PR gold for the Bears.

          • Still a Doug Plank Fan

            Oh, that. The bonus for the Alshon Project. Yep.

        • MB30SD

          yep

      • bearsfantillend

        I think it would be an outright mistake with the injuries that occurred. I am willing to give him another year, BUT he has got to do it his way and none of the caretaker shit he was asked to do this year. One thing that people should remember when he was with Jacksonville, they had a pretty damn good defense. Sixth in total Defense his last year there 2012 while he was interim head coach,2011 their D was 8th in passing and 9th in rushing. If he can replicate that i would be happy

      • Irish Sweetness

        How is firing the coach of the worst defense in the NFL a bad thing? They were bad BEFORE the injuries started.

  • Rodgers Dead

    Martellus telling media that he’s going to go “upstairs” to see if the Bears will sign his brother Michael Bennett.

    • MB30SD
      • Rodgers Dead

        2yrs apart.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Would that be a good or bad thing? Don’t know enough about the guy

      • Rodgers Dead

        He’s good and would probably take a little family discount.

        • NewBearInTown

          From what I see, Emery wouldn’t sign him for more than a vet minimum deal. Productive, but unspectacular, with injury concerns and a little undersized. But no reason why he can’t be here for camp.

    • beninnorcal

      I’d take him on our D-line

      • MB30SD

        I’d take yo grandmama on dline at this point.

  • gpldan

    It’s not all doom and gloom. I got a 6 month free trial code on JDate to give away…

    • MB30SD

      SHAAAAAAAADY!!!!!!

    • Rodgers Dead

      GP, If I knew that a company like Match.com would become a fucking mouse click from blowjob heaven by hot chicks in their late twenties to late 30’s would I have gotten married?
      My buddies are Match are banging random professional business chicks multiple times a week through the beauty of internet sex ads disguised as singles looking to date. Why didn’t I know about this in 2005?

      • gpldan

        I think Match lets you filter by cup size. So there’s that…

        • MB30SD

          hahahahaha… and mine is set to…..

          • gpldan

            D or above?

          • MB30SD

            D+ baby

            (side note: Sadly there is no such filter…. I’ve read)

    • Irish Sweetness

      Go shopping on thailovelinks.com and then plan your trip.

  • DaMurph

    Another long off season to prepare for the draft and get our hopes back up for the future. I really think Tucker needs to go. Our D was so turrible, and he never seemed inclined to try something drastic or different. Jeff tweeted about Minny D being bad, but when Frazier was a coordinator his defenses played really well. Now dont all jump on me, but when Schwartz was D coordinator in Tenn, his defenses were awesome. A great coordinator does not a good head coach make. I hope we stay the course with our offense, we were really really good. I see some good young talent on defense that will be vastly improved with a year under the belt. I firmly believe we need a new man to run it and possibly a new scheme that utilizes the talent we have in a better way. There is a bright future ahead if they play their cards right!

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Shorts is just too much of a d-bag weirdo for the new Bears era. Frazier I could possibly see working under Trestman. Anyone know who else may be a good fit for d-coordinator?

      • MB30SD

        I want a guy who is creative and aggressive. understands and likes to put in confusing blitz packages, but had a solid scheme that focuses on fundamentals.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          My brother was yelling last night “I played safety better than that in middle school!” Maybe you could do it too MB. Your blitz packaged commenting on this blog is a force to be reckoned with, haha

          • MB30SD

            aren’t you the one who also played FS in college BONB?

            no, maybe thats ibno?

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Nah, lol. I only played some in high school

        • SC Dave

          Fundamentals as in tackling? Perhaps the defensive guys need to go off on their own to learn it – at least if Butkus is to be believed about the collective bargaining agreement and the inability of teams to PRACTICE tackling.

          I remember Gale Sayers saying the toughest tackles he ever experienced were from Butkus, and those sure as hell were not in league games.

          Tackling as become a lost art in the NFL. Guess because people seem to think that the big hit is an adequate substitute. So sad.

      • DaMurph

        You dont know the history of the man if you think thats who he is. Read my reply to MB and read the article on him. Job pressures can bring out some traits otherwise unseen.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I think Frazier would prefer to step out of the spotlight and just talk defense. Plus, we owe him a job after he had his career ended in the superbowl. It’s a faith move, he’s part of the family. Maybe Singletary? Imagine him quietly letting the defense away with exhibiting piss-poor tackling? Can’t watch it ! Can’t win with it! Can’t do it ! Fire is what we need, not cold piss.

    • MB30SD

      There it is… Muuuuuurph!!!!

      100% with you, as you know my man. As I’ve said before, I think the most important pick up this offseason will be at DC.

      The players will either be there or not in FA and at our spots in the draft. There can be a little maneuvering but not a whole lot.

      So if we pick up a DC who’s a bad ass (don’t know about schwartz for anything but gas station toilet cleaner), but a guy who can come in and totally own the D.

      If there ever was a time to switch to at least a new philosophy (anything but the cover who), or even a totally different scheme 4-3 to 3-4, the time is neigh. Let’s get it done.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Yeah, a new defensive philosophy that addresses the current state of the NFL’s offensive schemes would be a great start now for the Bears. Keep the momentum going, and this will help the Bears’ organization to be very relevant and hopefully more liked overall to outsider.

        I know, who cares what other’s think, but I just can’t stand HOW BAD the media needs to mouth off about them. A little here and there, whatever, but for how much and often it is done, just distasteful.

        • Irish Sweetness

          What schemes? The read-option is a college offense. Cover 2 sorts the spread. The only change I’ve seen offensively – other than you can’t sack the QB anymore – is the evolution of larger receivers, and in particular, TEs. Creating and exploiting mismatches is the new offensive currency. Solution? Drafting 6’3 corners and big safeties. Size and strength are the natural evolutionary variables.

          I’d rather see players schooled in ALL defensive schemes so that they understand when and why they are used, but players aren’t all that smart judging by their wonderlics so maybe Singletary is the kind of guy we need. Keep it simple and tackle properly, the rest will follow. I think Samurai would perhaps do better than Leslie because he’s more in-your-face and he’s been physical with the best of them, as has Leslie of course. Mike wouldn’t amble inconspicuously up and down the sidelines as his defense phoned it in week after week like Tucker did. I don’t think Frazier would either. How can Tucker get in the faces of NFL players and tell them to tackle better when he never did it himself?

          We don’t go far wrong when there’s a former Bear on the coaching staff.

          • SC Dave

            Irish, if 6’3″ guys could cover, they’d be all over the league already. How many are there? Four to split between 32 teams?

            Until the rules are changed to stop providing such a huge advantage to the passing game, the only solution is pressure on the QB. But even that is questionable, since the defense cannot hit those queens any longer.

      • DaMurph

        Dont know if you followed the Titans at all, but look back, Schwartz had an awesome D with a good scheme. Jeff Fisher loved the guy. Theres a lot of coordinators go to head coach and just are assholes, (see Josh McDaniels) but as with him, he went back to the OC job and doing great. Lessons get learned and if they get another shot sometimes they are changed men. I think he could instill some passion into the D, and Trestmans personality and the lack of pressures of head coaching duties would serve to temper the traits that were previously unseen. Little history here.

        http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/23/sports/football/23titans.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

      • SC Dave

        You are absolutely right on the DC thing. Just like last season, our most important pick BY FAR was Trestman.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Well done in the FF league Murph.

  • gpldan

    Jeff Hughes | October 9th, 2013

    There will be a new DaBearsBlog shirt available in the middle of November – just in time for the holiday season and the Ditka jersey number retirement ceremony.

    Stay tuned!

    Whoops.

    • CanadaBear

      You Bastard!

    • DaMurph

      His predictions have gone down the tubes. We were havin a draft party and then BOOM no party. New blog starting last spring, didnt happen till, was it October? Jeff needs to quit shooting from the hip and only give us the word when he is SURE whats going on.

      • SC Dave

        Seems we dont really care,, as “his” blog gets plenty of traffic. But Jeff is only a part of the reason I’m here. The majority is that the rest of you bitches (and I mean that most affectionately) are here. And I really doubt I’m the only one that feels that way.

  • johnnywad

    Robbie makes a 30 something yarder against the Skins, the Bears play next weekend. Robbie makes a 47 yarder indoors against the Vikings, the Bears play next weekend. Somebody simply picks
    up that god damn fumble yesterday, the Bears play next weekend. Three single, routine plays are the difference between 8-8 and 11-5. In one season, this team is on the cusp of being capable of beating any team in the NFL. Just don’t get the notion that this team is three years away from a winning record. Its stupid.

    • bearsfantillend

      Exactly, well said.

    • CanadaBear

      No doubt Robbie missed those FG’s and a 67 yarder by about 3 yds. Other than that he made every other one! I’m pissed off when he misses but he’s the best I’ve seen with a Bears uni on. We got a ton of good breaks too. What a pisser of a season.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Thinking back to Butthead, he was the kind of kicker you imagined sitting on an up-ended garbage bin smoking a cigarette being cajoled to take a kick. Putting his beer can down and pulling the last few drags from his cigarette, he’d drop the butt to the ground muttering under his breath about how they never go for it on fourth, grab his helmet and stroll on to the field.

        • CanadaBear

          You should have seen Lou “The Toe” Groza. He looked like he had a sub and beer on the bench.

      • johnnywad

        Robbie’s great. And I don’t mean to lay anything at his feet. Just saying the team was a whisker away from the division on a couple of plays that he makes blindfolded in his sleep with his kicking leg tied behind his back. Just that close. Twice.

    • SC Dave

      I’m sure that Bengals, Vikings, and Ravens fans could find a handful of plays that would make the Bears 5-11. “What” matters a hell of a lot more than “what ifs”.

      In the end, you are what your record says you are. And the Bears were a .500 team.

      While I’m with Canada on not quite being sold on Emery in the draft, what is abundantly clear is that he had a focus on fixing the weakest part of the team. Between Bushrod, Slauson, Long, and Mills, the improvement in the line was profound and undeniable.

      Football always starts with the lines, and the Bears just finished with either the highest or second highest yards allowed per carry of any defense in NFL history. The 31 sacks recorded this season tied for last in the NFL (although in sack % they finished

      So, the greatest need is to fix the greatest weakness – the defensive line. Problem is, what do you do…

      Can Melton be relied on, or will be Tommie Harris, part II?
      Do Paea and Collins have the skills to be part of an effective rotation?
      Is McClellin a situational DE, or does he need to be LB or traded/cut?
      Keep Peppers or no (obviously for less money tho)?

      How good is Ratliff?

      This shit ain’t easy, that’s for sure. But I think Emery can make it happen. I really do.

      • CanadaBear

        I’m with ya. I do think Emery overall is way better than JA but I’m not ready to go all in. If a great DT falls in the Bears lap they have to take him. I think Tucker stays and we go 3-4. If we do, we’ll need one of those 350 lb types for the nose. Also, that would continue the CD fiasco (at least for one more year at LB). I do think they will re-sign Collins and Melt. 1 year prove it deals. Pep maybe at 2-3 mil at most. Woot for sure. He was the best DL man all year at two different spots. Good on him for playing out of position. That needs to be rewarded.

        • johnnywad

          They won’t re-sign Melt and Collins and then switch ti a 3-4. They aren’t 3-4 tackles.

          • CanadaBear

            Good point. Ends perhaps? Collins would be more likely than Melt due to the money. Who knows?

          • johnnywad

            I’d guess they’re sticking with the 4-3. Melton probably won’t play on the cheap despite the knee injury and I doubt the Bears will pay him. They wouldn’t pay when he was healthy. So its probably Collins + new guy.

          • CanadaBear

            Don’t see them staying with 4-3. Tucker ran a 3-4 in Jax. Gonna be fun to watch which way this goes.

          • bearsfantillend

            Tucker ran a 4-3 in Jax.

          • CanadaBear

            Depends on which year. He did both.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Good point. Our history with defensive tackles returning from knee surgeries and large contracts is not good.

          • SC Dave

            Kinda what I said about Melton being Harris part two

        • Irish Sweetness

          Why do we pay Melton 8 Million – apart from his jail presence currently?
          Nah, we draft a DT as high as we can unless there’s a game-changing DE freak in there in the first. I’d hold Collins Paea and Wooten for depth, and look for four starters between draft and FA. Michael Bennett from the Hawks, hook up with his bro ? Need one 6’3 safety/CB from the draft that we can use as a sick-dog.

          Peanut only makes 3.5 ? No point in letting him go then. But Pep is into us for 18 million this year? Melton wants 8? What does Briggs want? Good luck boys.

      • johnnywad

        Agreed. My larger point is this . . . . The Bears are closer to an 11-5 team than a 5-11 team. If you were to look at a three year window in which the goal is to win a championship, This year is a better starting point than last, despite the record. Given the growth on the offensive side of the ball, and the nature of the NFL currently, they are in a better position to achieve larger, long term goals than they were a year ago. The Bears were flat lined with Lovie and Angelo. The arrow is pointing up now. Its because of Emery’s shrewdness and Trestman’s abilities. I suspect the defense will look dramatically different in September. When it does, the Bears are going to be tough to beat.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Agreed. I didn’t realize it was that hard to trade a tagged player, I assumed the tag was for a team to able to control a certain player’s destiny. We need another high pick or two to fix the defense sooner rather than later. I’d like to see our superbowl team with a swagger on both offense and defense.

        • SC Dave

          No argument with your larger point, man. And Emery has, in words at least, been very focused on the “competing for championships” mantra. Refreshing.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Isn’t the beef on Ratliff that he just quit on the Cowboys? Became a disgusting fatbody. He went full Brando.

    • BerwynBomber

      I’m with SC Dave here. We could just as easily have finished 6-10 and 5-11 than finished 10-6 or 11-5. The entire year we gave two teams a pounding — Pitt and Dallas (and even Pitt was semi-competitive) whereas we were blown out by three teams — first Det game, St. Louis and Philly. That doesn’t mean I’m down on Trest or the future. Just that the season could have gone either way.

  • gpldan

    Biggsy shares his 10 largest thoughts, which are very very fair to the club – and then leaves to get some pork ribs.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-brad-biggs-10-thoughts-chicago-bears-20131230,0,3527042.story

    • MB30SD

      damn pay wall. man newspapers just don’t get it. idiotic.

      Bunch of fat old men sitting around puzzled as to why they are all going out of business. The innerness has been around a long time now guys, you should have figured this out already.

      Everytime I think of the newspaper owners I think of randoph and mortimer from trading places. smfh.

      • bearsfantillend

        you can register with them without paying, they just limit the number of articles you are able to read in a month or week or something like that.

        • MB30SD

          sigh, fine. should I just change my post above to say, “I’m too lazy and I don’t want to get spammed?”

        • CanadaBear

          We can’t get them up here. I was registered (still am) for years. Oh well.

        • IBNO

          And then read the articles in your browser’s “private” mode, and then when you hit the limit, you just close the browser, re-open, and voila! You get a whole new allotment of articles. It’s just a tracking cookie. NYT is the same way.

      • CanadaBear

        Good call on Randolph and Mortimer. The alternative is even worse; Conrad Black and Ruppert Murdoch.

  • BillW

    Last post today and maybe until next year. (But I doubt it).

    So I see many of the people critical of me are saying Tucker needs to go; just like I feel.

    My negativity comes from the near fact that Trestman will NOT fire him. And then I play out the next few seasons (Madden Football on automatic so to speak) and see a DC that can’t make players better and a head coach who seems to ignore the problem.

    And so the board here all calls for Trestman to go after another disappointing season where the arrow seemed to be pointing up.

    And if I hadn’t seen that play out that way so many time before I’d probalby be all Polyanna like you guys (Google it if you’re not a Disney fan).

    But I have; so I wait and hope for Trestman to prove me wrong…

    It been fun. No hard feeling MB for the vulgar way you characterized me (seriously).

    • Irish Sweetness

      (the passive-aggression squad move into shot, tapping at wristpads and monitoring levels)
      “This shit is off the scale … call MB ….”
      “No. He’ll flip. He’s got the kids this weekend. He might put his foot through the x-box.”

      • MB30SD

        PS MOTHERFUCKING 4 GOD DAMN IT IRISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • burntorangenavyblue

    What do you guys think of the Brown’s former head coach as the Defensive coordinator if it went that route?

    • CanadaBear

      Don’t know enough about him. I still think Tucker comes back with a new cast and a 3-4 D. I could see the LB’s coach getting canned. Who knows?

    • Viva

      chud is an oc i believe

      • NewBearInTown

        Correct. The Browns DC is Ray Horton – basically Lovie’s evil twin. Hyper aggressive 3-4 specialist, popular for interview because of the Roonie rule, but keeps getting passed over for HC spots.

  • IBNO

    HAHAHAHAHAHAAA SCHWARTZ HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    • MB30SD

      bad news for us as far as I’m concerned.

      All that talent with a good coach who knows what he’s doing and we’re in trouble with those assholes too.

      btw, you’re the one who played safety in college too right?

      • CanadaBear

        Totally agree. Hope the new staff sucks wang.

      • IBNO

        Yeah, but assholes deserve to get the shaft. Heh.

        Plus, a decent coach might make it less likely that the Lions succeed–they played dirty and won as a result. The current mix of players is gonna have to change if a coach with some sort of principles ends up in Detroit.

        And yeah, FS and then I got moved to SS when we went to an odd-man front, so I ended up something of a Rover.

        • MB30SD

          nice. I was rover for a while. Loved it. Almost killed one of our guys in practice and could have literally taken another guy’s head off another day.

          Such a strange position for the o, they never really expect you to be where you are… kinda loved it since I played IMLB in HS and it felt like a mix of the two positions.

  • MB30SD
  • gpldan

    The good news for Lovie@Tampa – when he stares into the sky for no reason, at least the sky is interesting down there.

    Also, instead of a Jumbotron to stare meaninglessly at, there is that pirate ship thing.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10215139/greg-schiano-general-manager-mark-dominik-fired-tampa-bay-buccaneers

    • MB30SD

      …what’s left is… lovie smith.

      Have fun with that Tampa. Fuck that.

    • bearsfantillend

      Tampa does have some pretty nice cheerleaders to stare at

      http://www.buccaneers.com/cheerleaders/

      • gpldan

        Yes please.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        He would rather look at the jumbotron or the clouds than that.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Herro Cwistina … are you interrigent rike me ? I’m so rone-ryyyy …

        • MB30SD

          what is it with you irish? (NTTAWWT)

      • MB30SD

        1st Row – It’s all about Ashlee (with Karen backing her up… see how I did that)

        2nd Row – Hmmm, tough row. Trisha maybe? Best of the worst? Crystale backing her up

        3rd Row – Julia with ashley backing her up

        4th Row – Alisa kasey and megan in a 3 way.

  • MB30SD

    here’s to you jim. 29-51 over 5 seasons.

  • gpldan

    Lurking pussy Packet Trollz:

    Come here and tell us all this isn’t a forward pass. The clip loops so you’re sub-average brain can process it:

    http://thebiglead.com/2013/12/29/jarrett-boykin-picks-up-live-ball-scores-improbable-touchdown-after-aaron-rodgers-fumbles/

    • Rodgers Dead

      well that couldn’t be more obvious and infuriating. Bears can expect an “im sorry” letter from the NFL in about a week.

      • SC Dave

        NOTHING excuses not playing to the fucking whistle.

  • gpldan
    • DaMurph

      NICE, very NICE!

      • IBNO

        Yeah, but I hear he cheats on her by getting videotape of other women “performing.”

        • DaMurph

          BOOM!

    • MB30SD

      talk about crypt keepers. yikes!

      Ease back on the plastic surgery honey.

  • gpldan

    Oh joy – Hub is on the radio.

    Let’s summarize:

    Hub GUARANTEED that Rodgers would not play, that he was hurt worse than he let on.

    Hub GUARANTEED the Bears would win this game.

    And now, he’s handing out Trestman’s grade.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Hub is ALWAYS wrong. Remember when Cowher was the next HC of the Bears? He had it “from on high”. Twat.

      • SC Dave

        Is Hub the new Paul Erlich?

    • Still a Doug Plank Fan

      I remember your piece on Arkush and his debt issues from several threads ago. I thought that one pretty much nailed it.

  • DaMurph
  • gpldan

    Hey the playoffs haven’t started and I’m predicting the Bears 1st round draft choice:

    HaHa Clinton-Dix.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Jadeveon Clowney ?

      • BerwynBomber

        At #14? Clowney may slide but not that much.

    • NewBearInTown

      Safe pick. But his stock could slide – he’s got off-field issues.

    • Ufficio

      That’s a real name? Holy shit, we have to draft that dude. I don’t care how bad he sucks at playing safety.

  • Shady

    Pick up the ball, just pick up the fucking ball.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Maranelli would have popped a nut on the sidelines watching that .. not that it would have happened on his team.

      • SC Dave

        I think it would no way have happened with Peanut on the field.

    • Viva

      PICK THE MOTHER FUCKING BALL UP.

  • BerwynBomber

    Kubiak is being considered for the TB job? Why? Dude had an incredibly long rope in Houston and his teams constantly underachieved. I’d hire Leslie Frazier before I would Kubiak.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Biggest draft bust 2014. Manziel. That’s exchangeable for gold bars at the Credit Suisse.

    Biggest off-season contract hoopla at Halas Hall … Lance Briggs.

    • NewBearInTown

      Briggs is a 2015 free agent Irish. And there’s no reason for us to cut him – his deal is mostly guaranteed money so we wouldn’t save much on cap space. Plus, he’s a proven defensive leader and absolutely worth what we’re paying him. I suppose the cap hit means he could try to hold out, but that would essentially end his career. In 2015 it could be an issue about whether to retain, but that’s for then.

      The more likely holdouts are on offense. Forte has an aggressive agent that might pull an MJD and hold out this off-season, which would be bad for pretty much all parties concerned but could net him an extension. Alshon could do likewise and pull a Percy Harvin holding out for an early exit from his rookie deal. And Marshall could look for an extension before we commit too much WR money to the younger Alshon.

      I’ve got a lot to say on those fronts, but I’m holding my piece till the commenting slows down a bit.

      • tobijohn

        I thought the new CBA effectively ended that Harvin stuff, no?

        • NewBearInTown

          I believe you are correct. Andrew Brandt has this article http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7929748/nfl-bad-time-rookie
          Looks like Jeffery has to wait one more year before he can renegotiate. But I still think the team might prefer to sign Marshall now to avoid contract fights with both star wideouts the same year.

          • CanadaBear

            Forte still has 2 years left at around 8mil/yr. That’s pretty close to top dollar. Don’t see him making any waves. Could see the Bears being proactive with Alshon and extending him so he gets some real money and the Bears save a little. Same with Brandon. Hard to say.

      • Still a Doug Plank Fan

        Looking forward to it.

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    Forget the draft. We need to bail this guy out of prison and insert him somewhere on our D.

    http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/crime/oregon-man-high-meth-fights-15-cops-while-masturbating#

  • NewBearInTown

    With all the draft talk, there are two important things to get through first.

    1) Coaching staff turnover. If we hire or fire anybody, that happens in the next few weeks.
    2) Free Agency. That’s the big one. That’s where we got Peppers, Marshall, Cutler, Bushrod and the rest. March 11.

    Plus there’s like… football games being played still.

    • Still a Doug Plank Fan

      I’m one of “those” fans, that now that we’re out, it’s tough for me to get revved about the playoffs overall. Only game that has my attention is GB/SF, because I want Harbaugh to drive McCarthy into pulling a Schwartz post game….

      • BerwynBomber

        I don’t think McCarthy has that sort of natural jerkiness about him that Shorts did.

        • NewBearInTown

          Right there with you. But I’m an off-season nerd. Mock drafts and salary cap space are like lego and Lincoln logs for me.

  • Viva

    I think the PE and Trestman will conclude that a high powered offense needs a defense that is all about stopping the run and putting pressure on the QB…(especially because they will be playing with a lead forcing opposing offenses into predictable passing situations. The best way to apply pressure is to disguise where it is coming from. The best way to do that: 3-4.

    That is the decision I expect them to make for the 2014 version. (I actually think the decision was made last year, for it is the only one that makes sense. Why else would chicken dinner still be on the roster?)

    • Viva

      It’s like the Ford Commercial:

      Loud and Clear…is better than loud or clear.
      High powered offense and the 3-4 are perfect compliments to one another.

      Just like tits and ass. It is so much more fun than tits or ass.

      • Viva

        Dear Ford,

        Feel free to use that…Super Bowl worthy shit right there..

    • tobijohn

      I thought we didn’t have the right personnel for a 3-4 (although there probably won’t be too much of the roster left). For the sake of discussion, who on the current roster worth keeping could transition to the 3-4?

      • Still a Doug Plank Fan

        Yeah, thought I read that somewhere around the halls here too…that the 3-4 would be too personnel costly, or something?

        • NewBearInTown

          Used to be that people thought Peanut was a cover-2 corner, so a 3-4 wouldn’t fit his skill set. Now people realize he’s just a good corner and could play in any system.

          Melton is built to be a 3-tech. He would probably be too expensive to keep if we made the switch.

          Paea might not have the size to play nose tackle in a 3-4 (though he plays the 1 tech fine). But he could bulk up or else convert to a 5 tech run stopper.

          Peppers used to be athletic enough to play anything, probably would have converted to an OLB, but could be the other 5 tech. He’s likely gone anyway though.

          Most people think McClellin would actually be better as an OLB.

          The rest of our D-line is on thin ice anyway. Wootton could probably do 5 tech. Collins and Ratliff would be gone.
          Bostic and Williams could both play ILB, that would work out nicely.
          The real casualty would be Briggs. He’s one of the best 4-3 linebackers ever, period. In a 3-4, he’d probably have to move inside. All his leadership and experience would be severely limited in a new system.
          We’d be the same place Green Bay was when they switched. Looking to draft a true nose tackle and a solid outside pass rusher. They got Raji and Matthews. #14 has plenty of pass rush candidates, but the draft is thin this year on real space eating defensive tackles. Not sure we wouldn’t make the middle of the line even weaker in the switch.

          • NewBearInTown

            If we switched, I’d look to see if Raji becomes available. 2014 is a “voidable” contract year for him and he’s on the outs with the Pack.
            One scenario would have us sign Raji and draft someone like Khalil Mack (OLB, Buffalo) at #14. Our starting front 7 could look something like:
            Wootton – Raji – Paea
            Mack – Bostic – Briggs – McClellin
            We would then have the ability to bring McClellin down to play DE and convert into a 4-3 look on some plays as well.

          • MB30SD

            pretty interesting to kick around the blog at least. thanks NB.

            I feel like if we can get a known franchise entity at FS, decent SSs are much more available. hmmmm… interesting scenario to ponder at the very least.

  • BerwynBomber

    Not that we need address the position in the off-season, but what’s the window on Forte as an elite back? Two years? He has stayed relatively healthy but he will enter his seventh NFL season next fall and RBs tend to lose it sooner than later.

    • SC Dave

      Hard to know. He could have five left, but not much more

      • Still a Doug Plank Fan

        Hope his health hangs in long enough for him to enjoy the fruits of the coming changes. ’14 / ’15 should be very exciting years for us.

        • SC Dave

          Matt Forte is the best player on our offense, and I am SO with you on hoping that we can let him cement his position as the second best Bear RB ever,

          • Ufficio

            Already cemented, dude.

          • SC Dave

            Gale would disagree, I’m sure. 🙂

          • Ufficio

            Yeah, I realized you weren’t talking about Anderson right after I posted. My bad.

          • NewBearInTown

            The fact that Forte is so good is why I don’t think Emery is done building the O-line. We still need to get better at creating holes for Forte in the power game. Emery will be looking to upgrade from Slauson and Garza. Don’t be surprised to see us draft a center or guard in the second round.

  • MB30SD
  • SC Dave

    Not sure whether anyone put this out here yet, but Earl tweeted:

    “Today was not a good bye… It was a see you soon… A place where we will never part… Love you big…”
    (https://twitter.com/Agent_Orange80)

    My condolences, Earl.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Anderson really stood out to me… he refused a fumble for some reason.

  • IBNO

    Packers can’t sell out their playoff game? Maybe the fans smell the blood in the water. I’d say SF wins by at least 18 points. Rodgers may very well be in pieces by the end of the game.

    Some part of me is a little glad the Bears lost; getting taken apart by SF in Round 1 would’ve been pretty hard to watch.

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