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Tweets From the Legal Tampering Period

| March 14th, 2018

(Jake Roth – USA TODAY Sports)


The “legal tampering period” is another work of staggering genius by Roger Goodell. Instead of having an exciting start to the league year this afternoon, with six hours of team-changing moves, we now have this three-day, amorphous blob of leakage featuring the newest bullshit phrase “intend to”.

Nothing in the NFL improves under Uncle Rog but the television revenues. His contract extension proved nothing else matters to these owners.

Twitter is the place to be on days like yesterday, as the news comes flying in from every direction. (True story. I’m currently starting a theatre company and for some reason scheduled ALL my legal meetings for yesterday. Forgot to check the NFL calendar.) So here are the Tweets telling the story of the Bears newest signings.













Free agency actually begins this afternoon.

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  • Bear Instincts

    A.Robinson – 2017 AFC Championship
    T.Burton – 2017 SB
    T.Gabriel – 2016 SB

    Anyone else notice that all 3 offensive weapons have deep playoff experience?

    • SC Dave

      As Belichick said, it really just comes down to making plays on game day, and whoever does more of that will win.

      In other words, I don’t really consider it relevant. Other than perhaps learning a trick or two for dealing with the press.

    • That’s a great point that I hadn’t realized. Good call.

      • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0

        somewhere deep inside you…..you knew it all along Wood.

        • leftcoastdave

          It was in the data banks yet to come forth through analysis.

    • ButtonShoes

      I don’t know if that means anything. Veteran leadership never hurts, though.

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  • That Guy

    Put Gabriel on one side of the formation, put Cohen on the other.

    Which fast short guy is the defense going to cover, and which one are they going to let score*?

    *Both are threats to score anytime they have the ball in their hands.

    • Irish Sweetness

      And if you’ve got that in a double-TE set … you hand it off to Jordan. Ha.

      Looking at all these new hands, I have to say hats off to Mr. Pace. It all looks good on paper.

    • Nagy is going to have fun this season.

      He can go double TE with Burton/Sasheen

      Can go tank with Burton/Sasheen/FB

      He can go triple option with Bisky, Howard, Mocha Ninja.

      He can go 4 wide with Robinson, Gabriel, Cam, White

      He can jet sweep the shit out of it with Cohen/Gabriel

      Go read/up tempo with Cohen

      Go bootleg with Howard

      He can split Cohen out of the backfield and force a slow ass LB to cover him in motion

      Pretty much every formation and scheme is open to Nagy. Should be fun to watch.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        That would be a change. Maybe they will finally shred that ‘NFL Offence for Dummies’ book that has been lying around Halas Hall since Tice was around.

        • leftcoastdave

          Yup. Lovin’ it. I’m thinking Jordan Howard is the biggest beneficiary of all of this once Biscuit gets the hot read option game going. “Got my hot read covered, the box is open for Jordan to jam it down their throat. You cheating on me, here’s a quick five to seven yard dink that might break it to the bank.”

          • SC Dave

            I agree… if they do this right Howard will have a big year.

      • Scharfinator

        The biggest component in all this is Trub’s being decent.

        Here’s to that.

      • ButtonShoes

        Does Nagy have a secret plan to be able to make Howard catch the ball? Don’t get me wrong because I love Jordan, but that kid’s got hands of stone.

  • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0

    A slight stiffening of a long dormant Bears phallus occured yesterday.

  • SC Dave

    So Chase Daniel as our backup QB. Not much to go on statistically.

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DaniCh00.htm

    • BerwynBomber

      Daniel is known as a good back-up-as-consultant guy. He played that role in PHI during Wentz’s rookie season.

      Personally, I’d prefer Sanchize if only because Daniel has never been near the QB Sanchize was as a pro. But I can see Pace’s and the coaching staff’s thinking behind it.

      • I think the main value here is that he knows the offense already and can help Trubisky learn it faster in the QB room.

    • Ugh. I don’t get the “mentor” thing.
      Trub was an old rook. Isn’t he going to be 24 this season?
      It’s not as if he can’t rent a car.

      I’d rather gamble on a higher upside QB who won’t doom a season.

      McCarron?
      Tyler Bray? (ex Chief)

      • BerwynBomber

        True but Bisky was also green as St. Pats.

      • willbest

        McCarron is holding out for starter money. And it seems that the most important thing for a backup to be able to do is execute for the second team in practice

  • SC Dave

    Probably old news, but Bears expected to re-sign Acho to 2 year deal. I think its a good move.

    • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0

      solid depth move. You’d love to see a young up an coming LB grow into that Acho role but he is a known quantity and you have to fill out a ton of spots on that roster. Welcome back Sam.

    • N’acho Libres are back!

      He’s high energy. Good guy to have esp since we don’t have any OLBs.

      • willbest

        He is a great person too. Does a lot of charity work

        • CanadaBear

          I dealt with his cousin opening a bank account in Mesa a few years ago. Super nice guy and talked at length about what a great person Sam is.

          • TomC

            Yes, he seems like an all-around good guy, but if he plays 25% of the snaps at OLB something has gone horribly wrong.

          • CanadaBear

            100%.

  • SC Dave
  • Bob Doll

    I get somewhat excited every off season though in this one, the Bears went into it with huge cap space…they are going to come out of it with many young, talented players with upside…not a collection of aging veterans…I was a bit surprised to see Albert Wilson sign elsewhere, but Taylor Gabriel is a good option too…but we got Allen Robinson!!! Tre Burton too…the size and length of his contract might signal Shaheen is progressing slowly and/or not quite what the Bears hoped?? Not to say he isn’t going to an excellent player, but Burton signed starter money and he is a receiving TE…I was watching that one…will it be depth or a starter or draft a guy? Well that was answered…looks like a LB draft now…maybe an OL in rounds one or two. Good stuff as the Bears look to enter the era of 21st century offenses!

    • leftcoastdave

      Signing Burton says nothing about Shaheen’s development. It say everything about Simms and the desire to have multiple big targets on the field causing match up difficulties.

  • Bear Instincts

    3 good DT’s left: Suh, Sheldon Richardson, and Dontari Po. Are any of these guys on your defensive shopping list?

    • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0

      i would love Poe but I’m not the GM paying that kind of money for what would be a rotational DL guy.

    • I guess it’s a matter of who a fan thinks needs backup.

      Poe is a NT who I think can move to DE in Big packages.

      Goldman is solid, but he needs to be spelled, and he has a lil bit of an INJ history the first two yrs.

      Richardson would be the more upside DE if you’re not completely sold on Bullard or RRH (and I’m not), and once more, can provide depth if god forbid Hicks goes down.

      Haven’t watched Suh on a consistent basis. Dunno if he still has gas.
      I do think he would love to return to the NFCN though, and stomp on Lesbo and Vadgers.

      Other DE/OLB to look out for

      Trent Murphy (27)
      Ealy (26)
      Aaron Lynch? (25)
      Houston

      • BerwynBomber

        Suh might like to stomp on Bisky too.

        He seemed a pretty indiscriminate QB stomper from what I recall.

  • ButtonShoes

    $18 mil in guarantees for Prince. Jesus.

    • That seems a bit much for a guy who only stayed healthy 1 season.

      But if he can be cut next season with lil cap hit, meh.

      The other thing to consider is that him and Fuller are buddies now.

      So maybe that helps out in extending Fuller.

    • evantonio

      I prefer that than the 18 mill for Glennon. But that’s just me.

    • willbest

      That seems reasonable compared to Robinson or Burton deals

    • BerwynBomber

      CBs don’t come cheap and I presume the guaranteed money is spread over a couple/few years.

  • CanadaBear

    Here’s a stat that puts things in perspective.

    The Bears have never been mistaken for Air Coryell — Brees has 12
    seasons better than the Bears’ single-season passing yards record.

    • BerwynBomber

      True. But Brees is also an otherworldly productive QB.

      (There have been nine 5K yard plus passing seasons in NFL history and Brees owns five of them.)

      An even better one might be to compare how many 4K yard passing seasons there have been in NFL history — gotta believe have been well over 100 by now — and then remind us that the Bears have never had a single one.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Kirk Cousins has 3 more 4k passing season than all Bears QBs combined.

        • BerwynBomber

          There you go. A much lower bar than Brees.

      • CanadaBear

        Any way you slice it it’s some bad shit.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Brees is just one of WAY TOO MANY names you could use to make that point.

      • yeah, but the 4K didn’t really become common till maybe the late 90s? (And no one should look up that list of Bears QB)

        Before that, this was essentially a running league, ESP in our division.

  • BerwynBomber

    I echo the tweets Jeff posted.

    I was mightily impressed by what Pace did yesterday. Robinson, Burton, Gabriel and Parkey are all young, significant pick-ups.

    Moreover, Pace immediately addressed the biggest issue on the team — an atrocious WR corps.

    Compare that to what the Ted Thompson underling did up in CheeseLand.

    The Cheese have arguably the worst CBs in the league for two years straight and to address that he went out and spent 10M a year on an aging TE who can’t block and 8M on DLineman for a positional group where they are at least already adequate.

    Sometimes the best thing a GM can do is the simplest: recognizing a team’s biggest problem and addressing it.

  • leftcoastdave

    Yesterday was a gas, all the action on the big signings. Now comes the next tier augmented by the fresh expendables like Simms. Suggests a slower day followed by upticks through the week. Will continue to be fun to watch.
    Anybody giving us a seventh for Simms contract? How about Wheaton?

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      No one is giving up anything for Simms or Wheaton.

  • willbest

    “No TE had a higher passer rating when targeted in tight windows last season”

    I eviscerated this tweet yesterday because the sample size for Burton is so small as to be meaningless.

    I do like the tweet about Burton being paid for potential though. A sort of if Burton were in this years draft we would take him at #8. Paying for potential didn’t work out so well with Sims or Glennon or Osweiler or Matt Flynn or anybody that brought in Bradford or Cutler when you get down to it. In fact, paying for potential at the QB position doesn’t seem to ever really pan out. I am trying to think of non-QBs being paid for potential but it seems far rarer considering teams aren’t as desperate at other positions.

    • SC Dave

      It was a rather laughable stat for sure.

    • ButtonShoes

      All of our FA signings have been paid for potential, to date. I don’t think there’s one guy who was an established blue-chip player that you could have 100% faith in. Those guys don’t hit FA anymore.

      • willbest

        Danny Trevathan, Josh Sitton, etc. There are plenty of people that showed they could play at a high level in the NFL. Robinson is being paid for his super human year. Will he repeat it? Who knows, but at least he has done it.

        • Bear Instincts

          His “super human year” was more a product of his own than the system or QB he played with. If you go with that line of thinking then it’s highly possible to replicate the same success considering we have a better QB, HC and what will hopefully be a better offensive philosophy.

    • Burton is essentially a younger Zach Miller.

      • willbest

        I will believe that when he also holds onto a TD catch as his leg gets severed at the knee.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    I find it interesting each year that teams focus on the ‘weapons’ on the 1st days of free agency. We heard little to no news on anyone signing Oline guys. With so many teams that have awful Olines like Indy, NYG, Seattle, etc. I would assume a number of Oline guys would be snatched up right away but it never seems to happen. Granted good/great Oline guys rarely make it to FA, but when your line is such crap I don’t understand not making quick moves.

    Note: the only Oline guy I saw reported signed was Solder to NYG.

    • BerwynBomber

      True but how many were considered top 50 UFAs to begin with and isn’t their lack of respect long-standing?

      Look at the NFL HoF. If you went by # of starters in the league, one would presume for every QB inductee there would be five OLinemen but obviously that is not the case.

      Btw, thought I saw that Fulton signed with HOU. And there were a couple/few guys who were given new contract/extensions by their current teams.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Not a lot of oline in the top 50 UFAs and most of the ones available are over 30. But if I was a fan of a team like Indy, and you have seen your QB get slaughtered over the years, I would expect the team to do something. You can’t tell me a guy like Sitton would not benefit them.

        • ButtonShoes

          I think Indy’s keeping its powder dry until they know that Andrew Luck is back to normal. Because if he isn’t, they’ll tank for a QB.

    • SC Dave

      Did you mean just yesterday? Don’t forget about Norwell.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        No not just yesterday. Year after year the 1st days are rarely Oline guys even though there are teams with just awful lines.

        • Scharfinator

          Maybe Oline guys are a bit more pragmatic and wait on their options a little more.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Another ding for the Pats. One thatT ommy won’t like , at all.

    • There’s been a few, they just don’t get the headlines.

      Chris Hubbard (Browns, surprise) and Norwell for example.

      However, Oline guys tend to be loyal. They have a bond with their bros and do not tend to be primadonnas trying to cash in, so good young ones don’t hit the market as frequently.

      Usually old broken down ones are cut, which naturally, no team really wants.

      C/OGs are also down the totem pole right next to ILB/HB

      That being said, I’m a bit surprised some names like Sitton and Fulton are still out there.

  • willbest

    After sleeping on it, I don’t mind the Robinson deal. My initial displeasure was based on the woefully stupid handling of the WR corps well pretty much since Pace has gotten here. But looking at the contract in a vacuum he is probably only overpaying $2-4 million when you consider even if he doesn’t show his 2015, his 2014/16 still puts him in the $8-10 million range.

    • BenderMcLugh

      well thank GOD you’re ok with it now Will. heheh

    • The 2 positions Pace had really mishandled since getting here are WR and K. Every other spot on the roster is probably equal to or better than when he showed up (though admittedly that’s not saying much at some spots).

      Based on yesterday, he recognized his errors and moved to fix them.

  • Bear Instincts

    https://sports.yahoo.com/report-drew-brees-turned-money-elsewhere-stay-saints-185648384.html
    Citing a source, ESPN Saints reporter Mike Triplett wrote that Brees was offered $60 million guaranteed over two years by at least one other team but he turned them down to stay with the Saints

    • SC Dave

      He does not need the $10M, and the Saints are good enough to go to the dance. Why would he leave?

    • ButtonShoes

      It’s understandable someone would try. But he’s the face of New Orleans. He’s already a legend there, especially after Katrina. They’ll end up building him a statue. And his team is pretty damn good. There’s no reason for him to leave.

  • SC Dave

    “Daniel’s career is pretty remarkable. If he stays with Chicago for two years, he will be 33 years old and will have heard $34 million in the NFL. To earn that money, Daniel has thrown 78 career passes.”

    And you thought Glennon was expensive? That’s about $435,900 per pass.

    • evantonio

      10mm seems high. He couldn’t have been that widely chased around the league, was he?

      • Bear Instincts

        it was never about being chased around the league. it was always about his value to the bears: he is familiar with the system Nagy will run and can help accelerate MT’s learning curve

        • evantonio

          Right. But did they have to pay $10 million to get him?

          Or is this another case of the Bears bidding against themselves (hello, Mike G!) and paying more than anyone else even considered paying.

  • Bear Instincts

    Tyrann Mathieu might be released….possible addition to the defense

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/03/14/ravens-release-veteran-receiver-jeremy-maclin/
    Ravens release WR Jeremy Maclin

    • ButtonShoes

      Rapaport thinks Mathieu’s heading to the Giants. And no thank you to Jeremy Maclin.

      • Scharfinator

        Honey Badger would be nice. Maclin is old though.

  • ButtonShoes

    Hmm. Financial info:

    Ian Rapaport –

    “The #Bears are expected to sign WR Taylor Gabriel to a 4-year deal worth $26M,
    source said. He gets $14M guaranteed. The max is $28M with incentives.
    Nice deal for the former undrafted speedster who finally cashes in.”

    Brad Biggs –

    “New #Bears TE Trey Burton will receive $11.3 million this year in his 4-yr contract that maxes out at $32M.
    $7.5M signing bonus
    $2.8M base salary
    $1M roster bonus

    He has fully guaranteed base salary of $6.7M in 2019 and $100K workout bonus that year. So $18M fully guaranteed.”

  • Bear Instincts

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/03/14/cardinals-cutting-tyrann-mathieu/
    Cardinals cutting Tyrann Mathieu…..now that it’s official he might be worth a look

    • AlbertInTucson

      Gotta find money for Sam Bradford,

      • Bear Instincts

        He would cost us a pretty penny. Plus he probably wants to go to a guaranteed contender (Patriots, Steelers..ect)

    • Don’t have the money left for a big deal. Bears are in bargain bin section of FA. Probably nothing over $3-4M a year from here on out.

  • Bear Instincts

    https://twitter.com/i/web/status/973976400909819939
    Wood just broke down the our roster and cap space available…nothing concrete but a rough outline

    • Was just gonna come share that, if only for an updated depth chart.

      • Bear Instincts

        With WR finally settled and TE & RB looking the same is it safe to assume that most of the draft will focus on the defense barring the availability of a great offensive talent (S.Barkely, Q.Nelson ect)?

        • IMO biggest draft need is by a mile going to be OLB.

          Likely interior OL after that.

          Then you look at places where you want depth/competition, like ILB, OT, CB, WR as the next tier.

          • BenderMcLugh

            If Chark (WR) is there in the 2nd round – he won’t be – I would hope we draft him.

          • I see zero chance they spend a pick on WR before day 3 given the investments they just made in the position.

            They don’t need a day 1 contributor now, they need a guy who can be ready to contribute in 2 years when Gabriel can be cut to save $$.

          • BenderMcLugh

            I can’t disagree, but I have wants too ya know

          • And Chark is almost certainly going to be there at 39. But he also almost certainly won’t be high on the Bears’ board at that point.

          • BenderMcLugh

            as soon as I typed he wouldn’t be I second-guessed it. So if he’s there in the 3rd THEN I hope they nab him.

          • they have no 3rd round pick right now due to the trade up for Trubisky last year. 2 4ths, no 3rd, 1 pick in every other round

          • CanadaBear

            That was my hope going into FA. Getting enough at WR in FA to go to day 3 in the draft. Not that I know anything about it but the little I’ve seen of Ridley didn’t scream #8.

          • Ridley never even remotely fit the Pace profile for a round 1 pick. He’s a really good player but average athlete.

            I’ve been saying for months that any mock putting Ridley at 8 as even an option was simply lazy and uninformed. Now that nonsense should be over with.

          • Bear Instincts

            With our needs mainly at OLB & ILB would it be wise to trade out of #8 for more picks or possibly out of the 1st round completely depending on the compensation?

          • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0

            I don’t think it would be wise. We need a top player at OLB in a 3-4 D and we certainly cannot roll into a season with Kwiatkoski at ILB. That is like rolling over and just letting a team have a free run at your hole.

            The Bears will select an edge rusher with pick #8 or Tremaine Edmunds at ILB.

          • Bear Instincts

            http://walterfootball.com/draft2018OLB.php
            We have options at the LB position if we trade back
            Roquan Smith*, OLB/ILB, Georgia – Projected Rd 1
            Tremaine Edmunds*, OLB, Virginia Tech Rd Projected Rd 1

            Darius Leonard, OLB/ILB, South Carolina State Projected Rd 2-3
            Harold Landry, OLB/DE, Boston College Projected Rd 2-3
            Dorance Armstrong Jr.*, OLB/DE, Kansas Projected Rd 2-3

            Jerome Baker*, OLB, Ohio State Projected Rd 2-4
            Jeff Holland*, OLB/DE, Auburn Projected Rd 2-4
            Lorenzo Carter, OLB, Georgia Projected Rd 2-4.

          • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0

            trading back when you can obtain a starter is dangerous. we don’t need more late rounders, we need to HIT on our first two picks like Aaron Donald, Whitney Mercilus and Vic Beasley hit…..see what I mean?

            If you GM like a beeyotch then you end up with beeyotches.

          • Bear Instincts

            If we can grab a sure fire started like Roquan Smith and Harold Landry I would be happy. I like Edmunds but i’m not interested in a project play. I want plug and play from day one.

          • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0

            I’ll take a raw Edmunds over anyone else on that list.

          • Yeah, don’t get letting Sitton go.
            If you want to TRADE him midseason once HH deems Kush or Morgan worthy, then, yeah.

            But cutting an AP dude without a replacement? Dodgy.

          • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0

            it opened a whole nother hole.

          • CanadaBear

            I like it when you get technical about football!

          • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0

            haha, it’s a gift.

          • CanadaBear

            There aren’t as many laughs to be had these days but the team looks better so that’s a decent trade I guess!

          • Yup. In spite of Jeff’s declarations that the draft is a coin flip, and that a GM can find a HOFer at #28 just as easily as at #8, I would still feel much better drafting that top 10 stud.

            Bears lack depth, true, but we also lack alphas.

            That’s the equivalent of saying, “I have a short weenie, but don’t worry, I lack girth as well”

            We need GIRTH.

          • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0

            we need the types of badasses that other badasses be like : “that guy is a badass”

          • Chuck Norris in Expendables?

            Who is the biggest bad ass in Expendables?

            Drago? Norris? Van Damn!

            hmmmmm

      • leftcoastdave

        Looks like your next article to me.

        • nah, I’ve already got 4 written and in the queue taking us about up to the draft.

          Read the whole thread. That’s basically an article’s worth of my musings, if you’re interested in them.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Nothing in the NFL improves under Uncle Rog but the television revenues. His contract extension proved nothing else matters to these owners.”

    Surprise, surprise, surprise! (Sarcasm)

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    After reviewing yesterday’s moves I want to update my projections for the season. WOOHOO!!! 16-0

    • Bear Instincts

      Don’t forget the playoffs will make us 18-0!!!!!!

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Don’t forget the SB will make us 19-0!!!!!!

        • Bear Instincts

          Bear Down!!!

        • leftcoastdave

          And I’m the one tagged as being over optimistic.

  • SC Dave

    Tiring of all the sit about Jordan Howard and “hands of stone”, I thought I should present some simple career numbers. “Fields” are catches, targets, %, player name

    12 14 85.7% Adam Shaheen
    53 71 74.6% Tarik Cohen
    77 113 68.1% Cam Meredith
    63 95 66.3% Trey Burton
    339 529 64.1% Kendall Wright
    52 82 63.4% Jordan Howard
    132 221 59.7% Taylor Gabriel
    120 221 54.3% Dontrelle Inman
    202 384 52.6% Allen Robinson
    62 119 52.1% Josh Bellamy

    Obviously, sample sizes vary, but there it is. One more thing I will add is that Howard was 71.9% last season, a big improvement over the 58% he had as a rookie.

    Do I expect it to go up another 13%? No, but the picture is no where as bleak as people seem to make it out. Hell, 5% better would take him above Matt Forte’s career percentage, and no one bitched about Matt’s hands.

    • Bear Instincts

      People love to hope on the bandwagon and fail to appreciate what they have. Howard is a stud for us and that’s all that matters

    • You have to compare apples to apples. TEs and RBs typically have a higher catch % because more of their targets are catchable/easy catches. WRs get looks farther down the field, which lowers the amount of them that’s caught.

    • willbest

      And in going from 58 to 72 catch % his yards per reception dropped from 10.3 to 5.4, which is actually rather concerning.

      • again, it’s all about where the ball is caught. Caught more because the passes were more screens/dumpoffs. Less yardage then because he’s catching the ball shorter.

        • willbest

          To an extent. Matt Forte career average was around 78% and 8.3 y/r. Leonard Fournette who also got 75% did 8.4 y/r. Is that unfair to compare him to those guys? Cohen was 6.7 y/r.

          5.4 is objectively bad.

          • CanadaBear

            I remember him flaring out a bunch of times and MT was late getting him the ball and not in a great spot. Usually ended up as no gain. I’m sure that’s some of it. Let’s see what he does in the new O. I think he will be a revelation with 8 or less in the box. I’m genuinely excited about the new O!

          • SC Dave

            MT had serious accuracy problems for most of the season. No doubt Cam Meredith’s career number would have dropped had he played last season.

          • Fox took Howard out in the two minute drill.

            The conservative HC preferred a midget rook and cheap FA (Benny) over Howard in comeback or hurry up O.

            Why do you think that is?

          • CanadaBear

            Cohen didn’t play much in the 2-minute, it was almost all Benny. I thought Benny had a helluva good season other than the pylon fumble.

          • leftcoastdave

            Benny got the screen right and was great in protection. I want to see him back.

          • I was probably most excited about that signing last FA. I always like RBs who can return. They tend to have good hands and acceleration.

            Would like Benny back, but if a small school stud who ran for 2,000 falls to us in the mid rds, take him.

          • Cohen at the start did, but once he had happy feet, Fox sorta threw him in the dog house.

            It could’ve also been cuz Benny was INJ at the start of the season.

            Either way, Fox didn’t want Howard as a 3rd down back at all.

          • 5.4 is certainly bad. I’m not arguing that. I’m just saying the dropoff from last year in ypc is probably directly related to the increase in catch %. It’s about where he’s trying to catch the ball.

            Typically shorter catches = higher catch %. That’s my main complaint about Kevin White (when he’s healthy): he has both a horrifically low yards per catch and a bad catch %. That’s a terrible combo indicative of a terrible WR.

          • SC Dave

            Your assumption is that fewer yards downfield means shorter throws, which is fallacious reasoning.

            A ball thrown on a flare to the side of the field travels as far as a ball thrown 20 yards down the middle. Or 14ish yards down the hash marks.

          • SC Dave

            So crickets on this one, eh?

    • leftcoastdave

      What I like about the above numbers are the % rate for Shaheen and Cohen. All of Shaheen’s catches were down field and he caught 12 of 14 targets. Many of Cohen’s catches were likewise downfield in traffic and generally if he got even one hand on the ball, he caught it. Cohen has Connie Hawkins big hands. 10 inch hands on that dude.

    • BerwynBomber

      Comparing catch rates of RBs vs. WRs is apples to oranges.

      Dion Lewis led the NFL in catch rate last year with 90.6%. The top seventeen catch rates in the NFL last year were all RBs. (Ancient Forte finished 7th with 82.2%.)

      I won’t insult your intelligence by explaining why this is.

      But even among RBs I bet Howard does not run routes near the length or complexity of guys like Bell, Lewis, Forte, Burkhead, Kamara, Woodhead, etc.

      Good that he is improving, but I highly doubt he ever becomes the receiving threat that Forte was.

      • SC Dave

        I agree. All I was really saying is thungs are not as bleak as people make them out to be.

        • BerwynBomber

          Hey, JH is your guy. We all get defensive about our faves.

          Hell, I used to occasionally take exception when too much shade was thrown Willie Young’s or Tracy Porter’s way. Hah!

          Anyway, Howard is a helluva player. A hammer. A beast. And we are lucky to have him.

          I just don’t think he’ll ever be much of a pass-receiving RB. Not in his DNA.

    • PFF credited Howard with 14 drops in his tenure, by far the most of any HB in that span.

      And he wasn’t running Go or even wheel routes.

      Mostly flat routes which my nephews run at 8 yrs old.

      No stats will convince my eyes he’s a nimble route runner or that he has soft hands.

      Receiving ain’t his thing. He’s Alfred Morris.

      Whether Nagy can work around that is another issue.

      • BerwynBomber

        And his stats still aren’t good when put in proper context.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis
    • SC Dave

      Hell of a player. Unfortunate he never got to taste a playoff game.

      Pro-Bowl every season (until he got hurt), 6 time 1st Team All Pro. A paragon of durability and toughness.

      Hall of Fame awaits him. And it should be on the first ballot.

  • ButtonShoes

    Biggs says Wheaton’s gone. Sims, Cooper: you’re next.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “My priorities as a football fan have changed over the years. Yea, I know free agency is often fool’s gold. But these signings make the Bears WILDLY more entertaining to start 2018. I’ll take that.”-DBB

    I thought Lewis Riddick had a cogent comment:

    These signings at least expand possibilities for the Bears.

    • CanadaBear

      I’m genuinely excited about the O. Also, I’m genuinely concerned about the DL and LB’s.

  • Bear Instincts
    • AlbertInTucson

      Who NEVER lived up to first-round-pick expectations.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Packers new GM has to, at least, be TEMPTED to cut the Clay Man loose and save $11M in cap space.

    • BerwynBomber

      Their D is too poor and Matthews is still semi-productive. Would be smart if they could restructure him though.

      I am surprised they are sticking with Cobb.

      • AlbertInTucson

        They cut and then re-signed A.J. Hawk at a more reasonable rate end of HIS Packer tenure.

        • BerwynBomber

          Good point. But Matthews is probably still a better player than Hawk ever was. Hence, if you go that route, there is a chance you lose him.

          Hawk? Not so much.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Matthews has been breaking down, physically, the last couple of seasons.

          • BerwynBomber

            Of course. At his age they usually do. But he has played in 90% of their games the last four seasons.

            Again, I will go back to my original point: he is still semi-productive and their D is too poor to lose him.

            Hawk was never near the player Matthews was/is. Not even close.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Never said Hawk was as good.

            Very convenient to come up with that 90% stat by including 3 and 4 seasons ago when he played all 16 games.

            He only started 9 games last season.

          • BerwynBomber

            Matthews played and started in 14 games in 2017.

            He is obviously declining, nearing “ancient” age and way overpriced. I just don’t think they will cut him. Beyond their DLine they are thin as hell on the D side.

            Were I them I’d either a) restructure him for a team friendly one year extension, or b) let him play out his last year of his deal. I would only cut him if I had no thought of contending and was in rebuild mode.

            Still don’t understand your point about Hawk. Aging Never Were guys get cut all the time.

          • AlbertInTucson

            My bad. He had 9 starts in 2016.

  • ButtonShoes

    Excuse me, but WHAT THE FUCK:

    “K Cody Parkey’s deal with the Bears: four years, $15 million with $9 million in guarantees, source says.
    — Mike Garafolo”

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      What is wrong with that?

      • ButtonShoes

        They cut Robbie Gould because he made too much at $3 mil a year. And now this?!

        • Bear Instincts

          Pace realizes he made a mistake and is trying to correct the mistake. Give him credit for admitting when he is wrong

          • SC Dave

            And he was wrong

        • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0

          they cut Robbie because he was making 3 mil a year and missing game winning kicks…..then he went to SF and started making them again.

          • Bear Instincts

            import part of that sentence is “missing game winning kicks”

          • evantonio

            you missed “then he went to NY and continued to stink before he went…”

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          Aren’t you the same guy bitching the last three years because Pace won’t pay up for talent?

          Now you want to save money on a kicker?

          • ButtonShoes

            No, I want Robbie Gould.

      • Bear Instincts

        he turned it down. that’s what’s wrong

    • I projected somewhere between $3.5 and $4M annually yesterday. That’s the going rate for a good veteran kicker, which he is.

      8th highest paid K right now, will be out of the top 10 in probably 2 years.

  • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0
  • Bear Instincts

    The Seahawks have tendered restricted free agent DE Dion Jordan at the first-round level. The first-round tender is worth $4.149 million

  • beninnorcal

    Tyrann Mathieu got cut? Only 25 years old and stayed healthy last year. Wow

    • AlbertInTucson

      Unlike a LOT of other teams, The Cardinals are in Cap Hell.

      • beninnorcal

        Yeah, after further research, I learned that they blew their load on him in ’16 and that was made worse by this new Bradford contract.
        I grew up in AZ, so I always considered the Cards as my 2nd team. But, as you kniw, those Bidwells have a history similar to the Mccaskeys when it comes to frustrating their fanbase.

  • Malice Halice

    I’d be COMPLETELY fine with us giving the rest of our money to N.Sue n the Honey Badger! That’s more than enough talents on all 3 tiers of D. We can draft the plug-ins.

    • Curious about Honey Badger.

      Someone brought up Reid from SF as being a possibility.

      Honey Badger is a FS/nickle. We already have 1 true FS in Jackson.

      Are we ready to roll with two FS? You get playmaking but might sacrifice the run D.

      • Malice Halice

        is Eddie talented enough to possibly convert?

        • That would be interesting. Making him SS and Honey FS.

          That would absolutely result in more INTs.

          But the run D might suffer a lil.

          Another crazy possibility is shifting to a 3-3-3 and having Amos or HOney kinda roam, but that’s way too exotic for Fangio.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, Amos might be half-decent in coverage if he was put in a S/LB hybrid role and responsible only for underneath stuff against less speedy, gifted routed runners.

  • Malice Halice

    Has there ever been a situation such a Le’Veon Bell situation? I mean this is asinine, Bell is just as important if not more than Big Ben cuz it’s good chance Bell is touching the ball damn just as much as the former. I’m willing to give PIT their drafts to get him. Trade Howard to try n get back in the draft. Our team will be fuckin insane!

    • Malice Halice

      Then next year trade a WR cuz we’re pretty stout their now (if we had Bell).

    • BerwynBomber

      RBs, even a great all-purpose one like Bell, aren’t the best investment anymore.

      Mind, Bell is as close to the modern NFL game as an RB can get due to his superior receiving ability, but the odds are his career will still be short.

      It sucks but those are somewhat the facts of life.

      • Malice Halice

        Man that sucks, It’s business but damn tho!

      • I don’t know if he’ll have a short career. He’s arguably the most elusive back since Sanders. He’s not a basher like AP.

        That being said, I would say his trajectory will resemble Tomlinson or Faulk.

        The juice eventually fades.

        • BerwynBomber

          Yeah, was thinking about that after I posted. Forte played a reasonably long-time and his and Bell’s game are somewhat similar.

          But Bell still is more physical, and the more finesse/less injured Forted “only” lasted ten years.

    • Bear Instincts

      Why would you trade Howard? He is a stud. He is our stud. How quickly we forget the lesson of trading Greg Olsen.

      • SC Dave

        He’s trolling us all about Howard.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Maybe the Steelers would be more willing to pony up if Mr. Bell didn’t give them cause for off the field concerns.

  • Bear Instincts

    Bucs signed DE Mitch Unrein to a three-year, $10.5 million contract

    • There goes our best FB.

      • EnderWiggin

        No kiddin. And didn’t he take zero snaps last year?

        • Yeah. He got fazed out of FB for some inexplicable reason.

          Think he got hurt later in the yr, but he was always a lunch pail guy. Perhaps even under rated cuz he’s a white guy named Unrein lol

          • willbest

            The inexplicable reason is the Bears were somewhere around dead last in RZ appearances and short yardage situations.

  • Browns got Carlos Hyde, all but negating Barkley at #1 overall.

    So Darnold and Chubb for them.

    • willbest

      They can draft him at #4, he will still be there.

  • AJ McCarron to Bills. They have Peterman and of course, two 1st RDers.

  • beninnorcal

    Why do people on here keep suggesting the Bears trade Howard? That sounds ridiculous to me. He’s had a nice start to his career as a Bear.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      They want something to bitch about for the next 3-5 years. “We should not have traded Howard”

    • I don’t think anyone wants to trade Howard. He’s cheap. It’s a deep HB FA and draft class, so I doubt Bears would get much in return.

      It only came up cuz of some rumor that Howard was going to be traded for Landry a week ago or so.

      Though it did bring up the debate about whether Howard, who can’t catch, is a fit in a WCO.

      I think what will happen is that Howard gets relegated to a committee back much like Blunt on the Eagles.

      And as much as I like Benny, I would wager Nagy is eyeing a mid-rd HB that is more like Hunt or Kamara.

    • Malice Halice

      Cuz we can EASILY find another Howard. Get good stock for him after all this FA madness is done. Don’t matter how good you are. If you don’t fit the scheme what’s the point in making him a focal point when so many other teams could use him and be willing to offer something for him. Jesus fuckin Christ guys we got him in the 4th! He’s replaceable

      • beninnorcal

        He’s had as good or better of a start as any Bear rb the team has ever had. In a century of football. Also been a top 5 back each season he’s played. That’s not how I would define ‘easily replacable’.

        • SC Dave

          Halice is goofy about Howard.

      • evantonio

        We got him in the 5th. But so what? Would you have used that argument with Belichik 10 years ago? “Look, Bill, Tom is 30 now. Might as well flip him while the flipping’s good. Plus, shit. You got him in the 6th! He’s just a cog!”

    • ButtonShoes

      Insanity? That’d be my guess.

  • beninnorcal

    McCarron is a Bill, apparently.

    • BerwynBomber

      Could be a decent bridge. Will be interesting to see what BUF paid, but given that it is a reported two years wouldn’t be surprised if it is a Glennon-type deal, which allows them to write off the second year.

  • Malice Halice

    I find it AMAZING that In 1 year BUDDHA FUCKIN BAKER ran da honey badger out of AZ! Y’all literally argued drafting him in the 2nd NOW LOOK AT HIM! Proud of him, wish we had him but I like EJ more.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      His high cap number drove honey badger out of AZ. They tried to get him to renegotiate at a pay cut and failed.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

        You’re just being a contrarian.

  • ButtonShoes

    Sims is still on the team. Why? Cut him. The savings you get from him should offset Burton’s salary nicely.

  • Wheaton and Cooper officially cut.

    Wheaton had 3 catches.

    So I think technically, he was the highest paid WR on a per catch basis last season.

    • ButtonShoes

      Wheaton’s the perfect compliment to Mike Glennon in that way.

  • EnderWiggin

    Thread.

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