Thoughts on the Legalization of Sports Gambling in NJ & Beyond

| May 17th, 2018

Sports gambling was always going to happen in the United States. And now that the Supreme Court decision has come down, sports radio airwaves have been lit up with takes ranging from willfully naive to pointlessly puritanical. As someone who has illegally gambled for the last twenty years, I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about the issue. Here’s some of that thinking.

  • Chris Christie is a scumbag but he deserves a lot of credit for this decision. As governor of NJ he understood the only way to beat the lobbying powers of the major sports leagues was to sink taxpayer money into the legal fight. He did. And now the great state of New Jersey is going to be the first to reap the windfall when a sportsbook opens at Monmouth in the coming weeks.
  • Most people know sports gambling, especially when it comes to football, as full game point spreads and over/unders. What a full sports book does is open up hundreds upon hundreds of bets per game. The barroom bookie doesn’t take action on first touchdown scored or third quarter first downs or catches by the backup tight end. (They take almost no action at all on golf, NASCAR…etc.) The active sports books around the country will take this action and the most creative ones will make the most money.
  • This will all be done digitally, of course. That’s where the most money will be made. But I’d imagine you’ll see some storefront sports books, especially in major cities. Think of the old ESPN Zones – a million TVs, seven bars…etc. But now everyone in the joint will be able to walk over to a teller and place bets.
  • I’ll be shocked if this leads to some epidemic of gambling addicts. Anyone who wants to gamble for the sake of gambling can do so right now. What do people think DraftKings and FanDuel are? There are race tracks all over the country. Scratch-offs and the lottery are gambling for dimwits. Are there scratch-off addicts? I’m sure. But nobody ever writes a newspaper article about them. There are betting parlors in every mid-sized Irish village. They’re surviving just fine.

  • Don’t be surprised if golf ends up with 2-3 more match play tournaments in the coming years. Match play lends itself brilliantly to high stakes wagering. The PGA Tour and it’s many partners should take note of the action wagered on the Ryder Cup this September. It will be 100x any figure that’s been wagered in the past.
  • Fantasy football made neutrals (those without a rooting interest in a particular game) tune-in for Thursday and Monday Night Football. Even the clunkers. Now some guy in a Queens barroom will say, “Hey, there’s a game on tonight. Why not drop $10 on the Titans tonight? And since I’m going to bed at 9 pm, I’ll just take them -3.5 in the first quarter.” And not just for football. It’ll be for every game, every sport. Sports packages just became a lot more expensive for the TV networks.
  • Every state should be legally required to clearly identify where the proceeds from sports gambling will go. And not in general terms. Sports gambling revenue can put books in the hands of students. It can pay off police pensions. It can help keep teachers from feeling they need to march in the streets. But it has to be managed. And financial management is not something government does well.
  • Don’t worry about the integrity sports, especially at the professional level. At the college level? Who cares? Does big-time college sports have any integrity now? College athletics is shady and corrupt. Will this will make that worse? Probably. And if I were New Jersey, I wouldn’t touch it. But the states that love college football more than pro football – Oklahoma, the deep south, Florida – they will do a bigger Saturday book than Sunday. But if there’s trouble in legalizing American sports gambling, it’s going to be at the collegiate level with impressionable and unpaid kid athletes.
  • A law I’d propose: debit cards only. If you allow people to wager on credit cards, with money they don’t have, you’re asking for trouble down the line. Either hook up the gambling account directly to a bank account or make the payment come from available cash funds.
  • Congress shouldn’t allow the leagues to collect a nickel of this money. Not a nickel. That should not be how this works.

Gambling is a lot like booze. It’s a lot of fun if you don’t overindulge. And watching a game with $5 on the line is way more entertaining than watching a game with nothing at stakes. Stakes are what make life exciting. And every single sport just got more exciting in America.

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  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    scratch-off addicts? YES. Also there have been plenty of articles and news reports about scratch off addictions, a simple google search will show you that. Most state lotteries even have gambling addiction resources posted on their web sites.

    • DaBearsBlog

      Those “resources” are legally mandated. They have them at race tracks too. It’s like the warning labels on cigarette boxes.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Yes but they are legally mandated for a reason. I am all for gambling, but there are dangers, even with something as simple as scratch offs. If you were wanting to show that they were just silly warnings, cigarettes are probably not a good comparison to use.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Drink responsibly. Oxymoron.

  • This is going to save cable companies. Imagine watching on TV and having the option to place bets on the game you’re watching through your cable account using your remote. That’s gotta be coming, IMO.

    And they’ll stretch it beyond sports. Bet on all the stupid reality TV shit too.

    • willbest

      Because the phone app will be far more user friendly than the cable controller

      • Gamblers don’t strike me as app savvy. Much more cable remote dudes who still buy ppv porn

        Maybe I’m just stereotyping though

        • CanadaBear

          Most gamblers don’t have the money for the latest technology (for obvious reasons).

    • BenderMcLugh

      good point about betting on reality TV. Didn’t even think about that aspect. I can also see betting on the ending of certain shows, like Game of Thrones, etc.

      • willbest

        Reality TV is quasi-scripted. You might as well bet on the WWE

      • Irish Sweetness

        For sure. You can bet on who’s going to win Big Brother.

  • KentuckyBearsFan

    Well, this should create jobs.

    I think I’ve obsessive enough in general that if I ever do bet on sports, it will be only a few times a year. I don’t need money on the line to make the game interesting. If the game is only interesting because of the bet, then it’s probably a game that I shouldn’t be wasting my time watching in the first place.

    • I think this will open up more petty impulse spending.

      Like at the super market. You’re there waiting in line, those M&Ms are just staring at you for like 2 mins, so you say, fuck it. Haven’t had some in a while

      And throw it in w the eggs

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        I don’t find gambling all that interesting because there’s like this disconnect between playing a game like cards or watching a game and having that correlate with anything that might have to do with my goddamn life like money and the money part is small stakes compared to business decisions.

        So if the small stakes are uninteresting, then the idea of betting large on sports or cards to make things interesting is even more ludicrous to me because only in an alternate reality would a game matter so much to me where it translates to being a winner or a loser.

        I’d rather spend my time spazzing uselessly studying World War I or II history.

        “Who won?”

        Everybody lost.

  • BerwynBomber

    Excellent article, Jeff. One of your best.

  • Did you hear about the dolphin who was interrogated at Guantanamo prison?

    He didn’t flip.

    • Juan Stone

      Can’t say I have but I have seldom heard of Gitmo being referred to as a prison. I thought it was just a detention center.

      • Isn’t that where they put detainees in stress positions for weeks?

        Or as Gina Haspel would say “extreme yoga”

  • willbest

    Its clear you are of two minds on this. On the one hand you don’t think it will increase gambling addiction, but then you go on to talk about all the additional opportunities people will have to gamble now. And then follow it up with precautionary measures that should be taken.

    “Every state should be legally required to clearly identify where the proceeds from sports gambling will go.”?

    Why just sports gambling? What is special about it compared to other sources of revenue?

    Do you understand that money is fungible? Okay so all the gambling tax goes to the schools… That frees up income and property tax for other concerns

    • Juan Sone

      Will, what is being missed in all this noble posturing is that “we the people” are the only resource left that hasn’t been fully tapped yet. Jeff’s into depleting the most precious resource left on earth so his pleasure centers can reach new levels so of course he’s going to throw some misguided virtue into the argument along the way. I get it.

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      Most state lottery profits that are supposed to go to schools….don’t.

      “The Lottery: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver” (14 minutes)

      Anyone that thinks that gambling tax proceeds will improve the schools or lower taxes elsewhere is kidding themselves.

      • SC Dave

        Anybody that believes ANYTHING government officials say in America is indulging in self-delusion.

        I pay no attention to any of them.

  • CanadaBear

    I remember all the same arguments for casino gambling in Iowa. It was going to be this fabulous resource for tax money and tourism. Uh, no. Tourism in Iowa, fat chance! As far as tax money goes, what they gain in tax money they lose in people going bust. I don’t gamble so personally I don’t care but after working in casinos for a couple of years, I’m quite sure there will be numerous trails of tears by families of addicted gamblers.

    • SC Dave

      Worst is spending based on projected revenue, invariably leading to yet greater deficits.

      Expect this everywhere.

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        Future enormous deficits were guaranteed after Jimmy Carter made zero-base budgeting standard practice. Seriously, What The Hell Was He Thinking?


        • SC Dave

          Not sure I get the connection. The deficit guarantees were built in, I believe, when COLAs were introduced into government programs where spending *automatically increased* every year without a vote.

          But in reality, it was all in the cards as soon as America granted universal suffrage. At that point, running a positive balance in the treasury was forever doomed.

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            “But in reality, it was all in the cards as soon as America granted universal suffrage. At that point, running a positive balance in the treasury was forever doomed.”

            I don’t think the historical record bears that out over the entire course of the nation’s history. Huge fluctuations during the 20th century. Post WW II-1973 as the US eventually bankrupted itself over Vietnam and social programs, then huge inflation and deficits after leaving the gold standard.

            But…US debt/deficit levels are not until recently relatively high as a percentage of GDP compared to other Western economies. China and Russia have very high levels, but it’s in their own currency, and at least China’s state-owned banking system public numbers are even shadier than the US federal budget.


          • KentuckyBearsFan

            Right now ALL of the income tax paid annually goes towards paying interest on the debt (sort of…the income tax collected is as much or less than the interest on the debt).

            That’s messed up. Wasn’t like that in 1960. Federal tax revenues have grown incredibly…many many multiple times in constant dollars compared to a relatively modern society and economy like 1960 Americas….but there’s a gigantic amount of debt? Something doesn’t add up.

            The till has been raided for generations now.

    • Juan Stone

      According to the Oneida Family, the trail of tears you speak of is their most lucrative form of revenue.

    • willbest

      Leisure tends to only generate additional tax revenue when it is able to pull dollars that weren’t already going to be captured.

      In this case the $150 billion industry going legit and getting taxed will generate additional revenue, but if the industry does grow to $250 billion through the legalization process, that $100 billion is coming from places that were already being taxed.

      An example of this is Colorado, where alcohol sales are down since pot legalization.

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        are overdose deaths down, up, or flat?

      • Only so much disposable income to go around.

        Some spend it on cars, some home improvements, some poon, some pot, some gambling…

      • Irish Sweetness

        That’s a great benefit of pot. Less drinking makes for a better life. For everybody.

        • willbest

          If I recall there has been an increase in driving while high, so I don’t how beneficial it actually is for everybody

  • Sactowns#1

    Why does everyone think this will somehow spark some digital gambling revolution? The overwhelming majority of states will operate sports betting much like they operate the lottery. They will have total control. It wont be some button on your cable remote (cable is dying quickly) and it wont be through Draftkings. It will be at your local 7-11 or Safeway. It wont be nearly as instant or ubiquitous as some people think.

    • Juan Stone

      I’ve come along ways over the years Sac. Personally, I couldn’t give a rats arse but I do love the fact that 7-11’s may become great again. They used to have the most amazing foot long red hot beef and chesee burritos. Mmm…

      • It’s funny. I don’t play the lotto but I ended up turning in some winning tickets for someone since I was hitting the 7-11.

        So I turn in like $20 worth. The Indian behind the counter than asks, “so, which tickets you want?”

        “No tickets. Just the money”

        “No tickets? Are you sure?”

        ” yeah, I’m sure”

        He opened up the cash register slightly miffed.

        Da fook.

        Felt like he was pushing drugs, or that one stripper trying to take me to the champagne room

        • Juan Stone

          That’s turrible Butch but do they still sell the footlong redhot beef and cheese Burrito’s? I gotta know man!

        • willbest

          Most people let it ride

  • Juan Stone

    Do scumbags deserve a lot of credit because they bag the scum or because the pass out the scum after they bag it? In Jeff’s case, it’s really hard to tell. Hee hee

  • BenderMcLugh

    “Don’t be surprised if golf ends up with 2-3 more match play tournaments in the coming years. Match play lends itself brilliantly to high stakes wagering. ”

    So Jeff, lose some money betting on match play?

    • SC Dave

      Golf will still be boring.

  • BenderMcLugh

    “…the states that love college football more than pro football – Oklahoma, the deep south, Florida….”

    Made me think of other states that have good pro teams that still might have a bigger college following.
    Ohio? I would have to think so. Pennsylvania maybe? Michigan?

    • L.A. maybe.
      USC and UCLA have way more fanatical fans than Rams and Chargers

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        “Chargers? You mean like for my iPhone?”

    • BerwynBomber

      Yeah, OH isn’t even close. The OSU fans are legion and annoying as fuck.

      • CanadaBear

        Nebraska fans were a treat back in the day. I was in Lincoln to see a band and ran into that crowd after they had annihilated some patsy. Not impressed. Glad none of them liked Blues! The Zoo Bar was always fun.

    • SC Dave

      I think Florida and Ohio still produce the highest per capita rates of great football players.

      But, its an opinion.

      • KentuckyBearsFan


        “More than 70% of all NFL players on rosters to start the 2016 season are from one of 14 states, according to data obtained from the NFL. Of those, seven states produce more than half of all NFL players.

        Florida leads the way with 202 of the roughly 1,700 players, followed closely by California (192) and Texas (187). Of cities, Miami has produced the most NFL players with 27. Houston is second with 18 players in the NFL this season.”

        chart of top 14 states:

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        per capita rankings using 2016 US Census Population Estimates

        LA 60 4682 0.0128150363
        AL 62 4863 0.0127493317
        GA 103 10310 0.0099903007
        FL 202 20612 0.0098001164
        SC 48 4961 0.0096754687
        OH 80 11614 0.0068882383
        TX 187 27863 0.0067114094
        NJ 47 8944 0.0052549195
        PA 65 12784 0.0050844806
        NC 51 10147 0.0050261161
        VA 42 8411 0.0049934609
        CA 192 39250 0.0048917197
        MI 45 9928 0.004532635
        IL 36 12802 0.0028120606

        • Juan Stone

          You’re either professor Moriarty in disguise or Data’s Mom, which is it? Hee hee

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            I’m procrastinating, it’s raining outside, and I’m full of coffee.

          • Juan Stone

            Did you know that “ohio” means hello in Japanese?

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            They should have named the state Sayōnara.

          • Irish Sweetness

            That’s great. I haven’t heard that before. Being in a certain place can fuck you up.

            I know, for example, that I don’t want to live in Flint, Michigan.

  • CanadaBear

    “Scratch-offs and the lottery are gambling for dimwits.” I’d say gambling is for dimwits but that’s just me.

    • willbest

      But its not gambling if you have a system!

    • I’m actually decent at gambling. I think it appeals to the analytical mind. The problem arises when that Data like mind melds with a Klingon disposition getting off on the high of battling the odds.

      I got some Data circuits and Klingon blood in me, so when my friends and fam say, man, you should go to Vegas.

      I always respond the same “no thanks. I have enough vices”

      I also think it would drive me insane.

      Perfect example.

      FF. Waffle and I are playing ea other.

      This should be Drago-v-Creed. But, Waffle being Waffle, always pulls off at least one epic upset per season.

      I ended up baaaarely winning by like 3 points (less than a TD).

      But Waffle would’ve beat me in an epic upset IF that Miller ‘non-catch’ wouldve been ruled a TD like it should’ve.

      I imagine that miniscule call cost millions across the country.

      I don’t think I could live with bad beats like that if they involve actual $ .

      Heck, I’m still pissed about losing on the river from like Pattys Day.

      Dunno how degenerate gamblers do it

      • CanadaBear

        It’s pretty sad to watch. Like any other addiction, some decent people get it and it all goes haywire. I played poker with guys from work for close to 20 years. We always had a good time and even the worst night ever meant you lost $25. I used to think I was a better poker player than some of those guys but mostly I did better because I didn’t drink.

        • Haha. You had an unfair advantage. They don’t give players free booze for nothing in Vegas.

          So, for you burgeoning degenerate gamblers,

          Do coke.

          That’ll show Vegas!

          The more you know….

    • Irish Sweetness

      Have to disagree there, C-Bear. There is a huge difference between weighing up the variables of horse race- almost a science – and buying a ticket that has odds of sixteen million to one against it winning.

      • CanadaBear

        Honest question, would your life be better if you never gambled? I’m going to go out on a limb and guess you’re not ahead overall (moneywise).

        • Irish Sweetness

          That’s a fairly safe bet, C-Bear. No, I’m probably not ahead … on racing.

          I’m certainly ahead on football (soccer). Though I don’t really bet anymore. (on football).

          Playing Poker I’m certainly ahead. I used to play cards in college to finance my drinking and horse-gambling.

          But overall, I’m probably behind. Here’s the thing – nobody’s counting. And would my life have been better if I didn’t gamble on horse racing? No. My favorite possible day out is a day at the races. Win lose or draw I always had a great day.

          Never gamble what you can’t afford to lose. Dad brought me to racetracks from the age of 7, and that was the rule that was drummed into me.

          1. Never gamble what you can’t afford to lose.
          2. Always back a pregnant mare.

  • PSA. Degenerate gamblers have the highest suicide rate among all addicts, even that one toothed crackhead hanging out at truck rest stops bathroom has a better chance of living and going straight…

    The more you know….

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      last stanza of Bob Dylan’s “Highway 61 Revisited”:


      Now the rovin’ gambler he was very bored
      He was tryin’ to create a next world war
      He found a promoter who nearly fell off the floor
      He said I never engaged in this kind of thing before
      But yes I think it can be very easily done
      We’ll just put some bleachers out in the sun
      And have it on Highway 61

      • CanadaBear

        I saw Johnny Winter do that live about 5 years ago. It was the first time I’d seen him in ages and he was finally clean after a long, long time. He was fantastic. I stopped going to see him in the 90’s because he was such a wreck on stage. He was just OK live and it bummed me out to see him in such bad shape. NTM his audiences were interesting.

        • KentuckyBearsFan

          huh…in the cover he changes “daughter” to “dollar.”

        • SC Dave

          Fuck Canada… you were about 35 years late. JW was as quintessential with that song as Hendrix with All Along the Watchtower.

          But I’m glad you got to see him do it at all.

          The last time I saw Johnny, he was doing mostly stuff from “I’m a Bluesman”.

          And that rendition of “I Smell Smoke” was as good a blues performance as I’ve seen in my life, and I’ve seen a few.

          RIP Johnny… you’ll never get the credit you deserve.

          Like Schubert:-)

          • CanadaBear

            I saw him a few times in the 70’s, 80’s and early 90’s. Just glad I got to see him one more time and he was drug-free and having a good time. He even got up and walked around with the Firebird for a while!

    • SC Dave

      Higher than meth heads?

      Maybe they just die, too ravaged to kill themselves?

      • I think it’s because you can be a functional gambler ( kinda like functional drunks).

        So it’s not uncommon for them to have jobs, homes, families…

        But when shit goes bad, they lose everything pretty fast. And I imagine a few of them rather put a bullet to their heads before Vinny comes around to collect.

        Metheads are used to living on the streets, sucking ppl off for a hit…the drug itself helps numb them to that existence…they could do it for years…

        Most gamblers can’t handle that life. Rather check out.

        • Irish Sweetness

          It’s as if gambling is a bad thing. The most successful people on the planet are almost always risk-takers.

  • And while on the subject, one of my fav bit characters! KGB


    • Johnnywad

      So good. One of my favorite movie characters ever.

      Favorite TV character……..Walt Longmire. I believe he exists. That’s how good he is.

  • Juan Stone

    Did anyone else catch that piece about the 25 year old basketball player that got nabbed for enrolling and playing as a h.s. freshman for a year? I think he was also dating a 14 yr old female student at the time of his arrest.

    Now that’s what I call gambling!

  • John F

    Sports gambling revenue can put books in the hands of students. It can pay off police pensions. It can help keep teachers from feeling they need to march in the streets.

    It will never be used for current government employees or schools. It will all be used to pay the gigantic pension and health care liabilities for virtually every state in the union. That is why the states want gambling and weed – so they can take the taxes and meet those obligations.

    Like most things in life, it’s all about money.

    • willbest

      Its important to note that pensions are payment for services rendered to previous taxpayers. Financing them should have been illegal.

      • Juan Stone

        Hey… it’s a brilliant scheme, people can financially contribute towards the cost of government through their indulgences without them really knowing they are fitting the bill.

        Jess, it’s utterly brilliant.

      • Irish Sweetness

        As far as anyone can enlighten me …. income tax is unconstitutional. Does that make them illegal?

        • willbest

          you dont believe in amendments?

          • Only when it comes to HBs and UFDA WRs

          • Irish Sweetness

            The 16th amendment did not change the taxation laws. There were no income taxes before that amendment, there were none introduced, so …..why are there now?

            Here you go ….

          • willbest

            The 16th amendment makes it pretty clear congress can tax income. Even if you think there is ambiguity with who in the chain it collects it from.

            St best the quibble is over which jackbooted thug shows up to collect it

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      There really should not be a pension fund crisis because the investment funds actually performed very well. But instead of using the money for funding pensions, the money was used for billions in stock buybacks. That’s for corporate pensions. I imagine the government pensions were just straight out stolen or shifted somehow where Fortunate Sons and families could make out like bandits with construction and road projects, or Wall Street straight out given fun money to play with and no risk. Government pork.

      Catherine Austin Fitts (used to head HUD) Solari Report
      “The State of Our Pensions”

      “There is no pension fund crisis! The so-called pension crisis is the result of a leadership decision that financial obligations to the elderly are expendable. After buying their votes and labor with promises, the leadership is wiggling out of those promises by draining returns with an engineered housing bubble, low interest rates and not funding on a pay-as-you-go basis, then cutting benefits and throwing retirees overboard. Rather than pay for nursing homes, we prefer to expand the billionaire class and use our pension funds savings to provide low-cost capital to the national security state, automate with robotics and artificial intelligence, and invest in space and the transition to a multi-planetary civilization. One particularly good example of this is General Electric. By some estimates, its pension fund is underfunded to the tune of $31 billion. However, during the time its pension fund became so underfunded, GE spent $45 billion to buy back its publicly traded common stock. The needed funds were there at one point; it’s just that the leadership of the company decided to funnel it into stockholders’ hands rather than to the pensions of the employees who helped build the company.”

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        excerpt from that report on state and local government pensions

        “According to Public Plans Data, the combined value of defined benefit plan assets held by state and local governments as of Q4 2016 was $3.85 trillion based on the Federal Reserve Flow of Funds report, September 2017. Public Plan Data states that there are 299 state-administered plans and 5,977 locally administered plans, however, their database is comprised of 170 state and local plans which represent ~95% of the market. In 2016 these pension funds had $3.31 trillion in assets against $4.58 trillion of liabilities. They were 72 % funded, which had steadily declined from 102 % funding in 2001. It appears that assets have grown 52.2% from 2001 to 2016, but during this time liabilities have grown 115.5%.”

        • willbest

          That happens when people live longer than you think they will

          • Thanos?

          • willbest

            So the dude has the power to bend reality to his will, and instead of doubling all the resources in the universe he goes the other way…

          • These are not the plotholes you were looking for…
            Maybe his powers arent unlimited and he cant double time space resources.
            Or maybe he thinks that he’ll have to keep doubling every few eons until it gets unmanageable even for him.
            In the comics, the gauntlet was almost all powerful.
            For instance, it didnt work in ghe DC universe (yeah yhat happened)

            The comic didnt have that issue though.

            Thanos was head over heals for Lady Death so he essentially killed half the universe to try to get in her robe.

            He also allowed all the superheroes to attack him while he only used the power gem to prove to her that he was brave.


          • Irish Sweetness


          • Dude. That comic series is 30 yrs old.
            News flash.
            Vader is Luke’s father
            The gimp is Kaiser Sose
            And nobody let the dogs out

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            NOOOOOO!!!! NOT VADER!!!!!

        • Irish Sweetness

          Why is a private cabal of banks such as The Federal Reserve ‘doing reports’ on state and government? Should be the other way around. The Fed aren’t even audited. Cheeky cunts.

  • SC Dave

    K.581 – Music for the Gods

  • Well, it’s Fri, so was gonna post some extremey offensive but funny Thanos disintegration memes that have been popping up in my FB feed, but i cant find any of them on the interwebs. Beginning to think my bastard friends created them!

    Ok. This is the only half way decent one i found


    • KentuckyBearsFan

      I still haven’t seen Infinity Wars.

      “Thanos has a great plan” (7 minutes)

  • Irish Sweetness

    “There are betting parlors in every mid-sized Irish village. They’re surviving just fine.”

    I grew up in a town of 4000 people. It had 4 pubs and 2 betting shops.

  • Juan Stone

    Does Pete Rose now get into the Baseball Hall of Fame? Do the Black Sox get exonerated?

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      It’s not that Rose was gambling, it was that he was gambling on baseball and games he was playing/coaching.

    • I rather have OJ in the HOF.

      Oh, wait…

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