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The Positional Quick 3: Offensive Line

| June 13th, 2018

I’m traveling in Dingle, Ireland years ago and I’m exhausted. This was my first day ever in Europe and I couldn’t keep my eyes open at 4:30 in the afternoon. My uncle turns to me and says, “Have a quick three. You’ll be fine.” I drank three Guinness in the span of a half hour. Seven hours later I’m dancing to a shitty Irish house DJ with Jenny Pye, a local lass who dreamed of being an EMT in New York City.

I’m very tired of this 2018 off-season. And incredibly eager for the season to begin. So I’m taking the quick three approach to each position group as we head into the summer. Not grading the groups or anything. Just making some points.


Offensive Line

  • Perhaps the most important positional decision in the coming days will be how Nagy and Harry Hiestand situate the middle of their offensive line. (Both Cody Whitehair and James Daniels are listed as simply OL on the team’s roster page.) Whitehair is 25. Daniels is 20. This should be the team’s line leadership for the next five years plus. Getting them in the correct position is essential to that cause.
  • The chances of Bobby Massie being on the Bears roster in 2019 are not particularly good. So this becomes a contract year for the right tackle. Does that mean anything? Not really. But I have to fill three bullet points here.
  • Is this a flawless unit? No. But there are very few, if any, flawless offensive lines in the modern NFL. Is this an offensive line capable of playing into the postseason? Absolutely. Especially if the middle of the line is sorted correctly. This is an offensive line that can protect the quarterback long enough to make plays down the field and an offensive line capable of pushing a defense around 25 times a game to create some space for Jordan Howard. They are a good, not great unit.

Tomorrow: Offensive Coaches

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  • The Yes Guy

    YES

  • T.dyon

    Daniels has longer arms so he is the fit for G. They already said they wouldn’t take Whitehair out of his comfort zone at C.

    • CanadaBear

      I think they are putting Daniels at guard to start to make it easier for his transition into the NFL. Once Harry’s convinced he can handle it I’m guessing the Center/Guard question will be back on the table. I’m OK either way it shakes out. Harry definitely knows more about it than me!

      • willbest

        rookie centers have not historically fared well either unless they have a HoF QB behind them. Maybe if everybody around them knew the offense cold it would be less of a deal, but the whole team is hitting the books on this one.

      • leftcoastdave

        Watch Daniels tape and you will see how good he is at getting angles and moving to the second level. I think the decision was very smart to start him at G in the new system. At Iowa, they ran primarily zone scheme runs so this will not be new to him.

    • How comfortable was WH? I seem to remember him botching a lot of snaps since he’s been under C. Figured that’s why Daniels was drafted, to get a true C .
      Only the bears would draft a true OG and OC and make both play out of position.

      If Daniels is worth his 2nd rd grade, he should start at OC from day one and move WH back to his natural position.

      They’re both learning a brand new O anyways, and no one is expecting SB.

      Now is the time to finally get it right.

      The guy I’m really curious about is Kush who looked as good to me as Long (and why I’m not a fan of drafting interior olinemen high)

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis
      • T.dyon

        I thought Whitehair strugglesd as well. The consensus was they were moving the line around to much. Since Whitehair did his best work at C the first year, and that’s where he finished last year. He’s considered a C.

        When they drafted Daniels, they called Whitehair and told him he wasn’t going to be moved from center.

        the so called experts say, Gs need long arms. C don’t. I’m not anybody who can evaluate that position.

        I don’t have much info on Kush.

        Everybody seems to say the OL should be good, but I’m somewhat on the fence.

        • I’m good w the oline.
          I think ppl underestimate Massie and Leno, but unlike Long, they’ve actually finished multiple seasons. Rather have them than an inj Long who forces the Oline to reshuffle by week 4.

          I’m bullish on Kush. WH is good, not great. Still contend he’ll be an AP OG which is better than good OC.

          Daniels looks promising. Morgan is intriguing esp if he looks competent at RT.

          We got the Tayo wild card in Coward. The meh but necassary vet in Compton.

          Good unit.

      • CanadaBear

        Whitehair struggled for a few games with errant snaps but that was early and not an issue after the first quarter of the season. Not sure what was going on there. I’ve got a lot of faith in Harry to get it right. Pretty sure he knows more than either one of us.

      • T.dyon

        Here’s what Nagy said : The benefit of having a guy like James Daniels is he can play different positions. So (we’ll) be able to let him come in here and play guard and see what he can do, learn from the other guys, let (offensive line coach) Harry (Hiestand) teach these guys the technique. He’s a young kid now, (and) his arrow is pointing up, (and) it gives us an opportunity to let Cody grow at center. That’s his spot.

        Here what Daniels said: My true freshman year at Iowa I played all guard. It’s hard, but you don’t have to make the calls and you don’t have to snap, which are two things that centers do that people don’t realize how hard it is.

  • leftcoastdave

    This will be a VERY good unit. Top ten.

    • CanadaBear

      Barring any injuries, totally agree.

      • willbest

        A high bar when it comes to Long

        • Sactowns#1

          Has anyone heard any rehab updates?

          • John F

            Supposedly Long was doing drills on the side during OTA’s and will be a full go when training camp starts ….. I’ll believe it when I see it …. coming back from three surgeries in six months ain’t easy

          • leftcoastdave

            I’m disappointed we have not heard anything positive on Jordan Morgan unless I missed it. Hope to hear that when the pads come on.

          • willbest

            Is it wrong I don’t want him a full go, and instead prefer to get all 400 or so healthy snaps in after opening day?

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Interesting. It is being reported Andrew Luck is throwing again but with a “College” size football. Did anyone know that college plays with a different ball in terms of size than the NFL?

    • EnderWiggin
      • willbest

        I was literally about to link that off the google.

        Basically, the college ball is about a half inch shorter across the long axis, and a tiny bit smaller in circumference.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Even Rodgers had issues with a new, young center.

    • Sactowns#1

      Yup. I kinda like the look of the college ball being thrown too. The stripes look cool in 4k.

    • John F

      Joe Namath said that he loved the old AFL ball, a little longer and thinner, said it was like a missle …

  • willbest

    On the World Cup, the US-Mexico-Canada will host the 2026 event. The US will host 60 of the 80 games with 10 each to the other two countries. There are 17 proposed cities in the US, none of which include Soldier Field. But the recently built football stadiums in Atlanta, Texas, and New Jersey are slated for the semi and finals.

    I am surprised they are going with the Rose Bowl instead of the pleasure palace the Walton heirs are building for the LA Rams. I guess they have 8 years to fully finalize it though.

    https://sports.yahoo.com/u-s-canada-mexico-win-right-host-2026-world-cup-105218462.html

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Soldier Field turf probably does not meet the World Cup Standards, and no one wants to bribe officials to look the other way.

      • As corrupt as Fifa is, figured Chicago would be a great criminal partner, i mean, capitalist venture…

        • willbest

          Chicago don’t have the money to bribe FIFA

    • ButtonShoes

      Couldn’t care less. Soccer. Blech. So boring. Imagine having to suffer through the pain of watching a soccer team unable to come back against an insurmountable 1-0 lead. I can already feel my brain melting from boredom just thinking about it.

      And Chicago not being a World Cup city is one of the few things the city’s done right.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    I can’t believe Jeff did not mention rookie OT Dejon Allen. Disappointing.

    • Is that the converted DT?

      Dont forget Morgan!

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        I don’t know a thing about him. I just looked at the roster and grabbed the name of a rookie OLine guy.

      • John F

        No the converted guy is Rashaad Coward, a DT out of Old Dominion who will try to be an OG

  • AlbertInTucson

    I will be interested to see how this O-line fares IF the Bears can mount a passing attack that opponents have to take seriously.

    • CanadaBear

      I really believe this O is gonna be good but not consistent.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Unlike last year when we were bad but consistent. Run, Run, Pass.

        • CanadaBear

          Any team that has offensive titans like Foxy and Nathan Lane running things is gonna suck moose wang.

          • Birdcage reunited w Gase methinks. Curious to see how that goes cuz I was never sure where Fox ended and Birdcage began.

            Guess we’ll find out

          • willbest

            Birdcage showed more creativity with Hoyer/Barkley than he did with Cutler/Trubisky.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Daniels is only 20?

    Wow.

  • Greg Hardy is a MMA beast. Beat the living shit out of another ex-NFL guy, Austen Lane. 57 seconds, that was some Tom Hardy in Warrior shit right there.

    • Did they allow him to fight w his bed of assault rifles?

      • John F

        Yes, and he was allowed to use the chainsaw bayonet attachment!

  • Malice Halice

    The decent studs we got on O-line wit Harry H. coaching should provide savagery protection. Got savage D-lineman to scrimmage against so I can’t wait to hear word when they get to Bourbonnais. I feel like we got a more positive/friendlier Ditka/Ryan thing going on with our coordinators. Every body is tryin to earn a roster spot on both sides of the ball so I truly believe it’s finna get REAL! Our OC has to prove that he can conjure plays that experienced pro DC’s can’t contest. His first n current victim is yours truly Vic. I might have to drive down there!

  • willbest

    Sac was asking for a Kyle Long update. Shoulder looks okay to me. He is playing Counterstrike live on twitch atm.

    https://www.twitch.tv/KyleLong

    • willbest

      Incidentally, I don’t think it would have ever occurred to me back in my Warcraft 2, C&C, Doom days to have ever streamed myself playing it even if we had that kind of bandwidth. I was talking to my neighbor’s kid who is in his 20s and he found I occasionally play monster hunter world, whatever Naughty Dog just made, etc and he started rattling off the name of “famous” streamers asking me if I watched them.

      He seemed confused that I was confused by the question. Generational culture gap I guess.

      • Yeah, it starts at a young age. My nephews always want to show me so and so players on yt.
        It’s like their slam dunk highlights.

      • Sactowns#1

        Dude, that seems like torture to me. It’s like when you showed up to your friends house and had to watch him play Zelda or Castlevania. BORING!

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