The Positional Quick 3: Linebackers

| June 22nd, 2018

I’m traveling in Dingle, Ireland years ago and I’m exhausted. This was my first day ever in Europe and I couldn’t keep my eyes open at 4:30 in the afternoon. My uncle turns to me and says, “Have a quick three. You’ll be fine.” I drank three Guinness in the span of a half hour. Seven hours later I’m dancing to a shitty Irish house DJ with Jenny Pye, a local lass who dreamed of being an EMT in New York City.

I’m very tired of this 2018 off-season. And incredibly eager for the season to begin. So I’m taking the quick three approach to each position group as we head into the summer. Not grading the groups or anything. Just making some points.


  • The Bears are deeper at inside linebacker than anywhere else on the roster. Roquan Smith and Danny Trevathan will start. Kwik, Timu and Iggy will be right behind. They are young, deep and athletic at the team’s most historically-prolific position. (More on this group in a few moments.)
  • The Bears need two things to happen on the outside: Leonard Floyd has to become a sixteen-game star and they must find some production out of WHOEVER lines up opposite him. The guy I would spend significant time developing on the outside is Jonathan Anderson. But the Bears will inevitably keep sending Acho out there.
  • If I were Ryan Pace, I’d be trying to unload Trevathan now. He’s a terrific player but he was a Fox guy, he’s hurt all the time and he’s clearly not part of their long-term plans. Get something for him now before he’s cut next off-season. There’s got to be a team willing to unload a situational rusher or nickel corner or a fourth-round pick.

Monday: Secondary

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  • That Guy


  • That Guy

    And I totally disagree about unloading Trevathan. We are one season removed from having pocket lint starting at ILB with all the injuries. And Trevathan is better than Kwik, Iggy, or Timu. Much better. So keep him. Makes no sense to trade him for some roster fluff, and you won’t get a 4th for him.

    And as much as I like the human sneeze as a person, I don’t think he’s ever going to be a guy you want to see lining up at OLB. Acho is depth, not quality. Give Anderson the shot. But more importantly, be scouring that waiver wire for someone better, and hope that Kylie Minogue can stay in one piece.

    • catfish44

      agreed, smith and trevathan playing together excites me.

    • Sactowns#1

      I love the way Danny T plays.

  • CanadaBear

    I’d like to see the Beloved actually be good before they start trading one of their better players for 4th rounders. If Lynch is healthy he will start opposite of Floyd. Not ideal but if that’s the weakest part of the D, that’s a major step up from a couple of years ago.

    • No way we’re trading Tre. Mainly cuz we’re not getting a 4rth for him. Also, do we really want Kwiat out there (and mentoring Roq)?
      No thanks

      • CanadaBear

        Doesn’t make any sense to me. I like Kwiat more than most on here but he’s certainly a step down from DT.

  • CanadaBear

    Just when you think ESPN can’t possibly hire worse personnel, they do!


    • Your fav!

      I actually read that a few networks were trying to hire Joe Thomas , but he’s taking a break from football

      • CanadaBear

        I’m blown away they would hire Triplette. He has to be one of the worst refs in the last 2 decades. I literally never saw him officiate a game without some type of kerfuffle where the officials had to have a pow-wow. Usually numerous pow-wows/game. On top of that his explanations were almost undecipherable.

        • AlbertInTucson

          He MUST have compromising photos of Goodell because I heard the NFL nudged ESPN to make that hire.

          • CanadaBear

            Can your pal Hochuli be far behind?

          • AlbertInTucson

            Good point. But at least HE is ALSO off the field!

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      I don’t understand networks hiring “rules” analysts. They didn’t understand the rules when they were on the field what’s going to change now. The real sad thing is that there seems to be a need for the job. Why? Fix the rules, it’s not that complicated of a game.

      • CanadaBear

        100%. I’m not smart enough to know the answers but making the catch rule pass the sniff test would help a lot. NTM going all Zapruder/CSI on every TD.

  • catfish44

    Trump’s Cowardly War on Immigrant Children.
    Like clockwork, every Sunday night I talk to my parents (by way of explanation, I live in New York, they reside in Rancho Mirage, California—a distance that makes in-person discussions somewhat difficult to manage). After catching up on family news, inevitably our conversation devolves into politics. I had (infamously, in my mom’s view) predicted Donald Trump’s victory in the 2016 presidential election shortly after the Democratic National Convention in July of that year, citing Hillary Clinton’s shortcomings as a candidate more than Trump’s positives. My mom, a Clinton supporter, was aghast that I could side with such a fundamentally flawed character as Trump. In the time Trump has held office, Mom has unfailingly sought to remind me of the president’s obvious (in her mind) failings as a leader and a human being. Our last conversation was pretty much along the same lines—wishing my dad a happy Father’s Day, talking about my niece’s graduation from high school and her future college prospects, the U.S. Open, and—inevitably—Trump.—–https://www.truthdig.com/articles/trumps-cowardly-war-on-immigrant-children/

    • Sactowns#1

      That was a good and thoughtful piece.
      The book Every Man Dies Alone was a great read and a fascinating piece about how evil creeps into the world step by step. It’s rarely one big leap. It’s generally more like boiling a frog and right now, America is being boiled.

      • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0

        The world is a brutal existence for a large chunk of the population and always has been. We have better phones than in generations past though……

        • The thin veneer of civilization.

          In 1968, 40-year-old Stanley Kubrick was interviewed by Playboy magazine.

          It’s hard to know what Playboy was expecting from the interview, but I suspect they were unprepared for a full-fledged existential meditation on the meaning(lessness) of human existence.

          At one point, Playboy asked Kubrick if he felt life was worth living. What followed was one of the most unforgettable responses in the history of interviewing.

          Kubrick’s off-the-cuff answer is disarming in its frankness, in its willingness to “stare long into the abyss,” as Friedrich Nietzsche put it.

          Playboy: If life is so purposeless, do you feel its worth living?

          Kubrick: Yes, for those who manage somehow to cope with our mortality. The very meaninglessness of life forces a man to create his own meaning. Children, of course, begin life with an untarnished sense of wonder, a capacity to experience total joy at something as simple as the greenness of a leaf; but as they grow older, the awareness of death and decay begins to impinge on their consciousness and subtly erode their joie de vivre (a keen enjoyment of living), their idealism — and their assumption of immortality.

          As a child matures, he sees death and pain everywhere about him, and begins to lose faith in the ultimate goodness of man. But if he’s reasonably strong — and lucky — he can emerge from this twilight of the soul into a rebirth of life’s élan (enthusiastic and assured vigor and liveliness).

          Both because of and in spite of his awareness of the meaninglessness of life, he can forge a fresh sense of purpose and affirmation. He may not recapture the same pure sense of wonder he was born with, but he can shape something far more enduring and sustaining.

          The most terrifying fact about the universe is not that it is hostile but that it is indifferent; but if we can come to terms with this indifference and accept the challenges of life within the boundaries of death — however mutable man may be able to make them — our existence as a species can have genuine meaning and fulfillment. However vast the darkness, we must supply our own light.”

          — Stanley Kubrick, interview with Playboy, Stanley Kubrick: Interviews

          • CanadaBear

            I’m guessing Michael Bay’s answer wouldn’t be quite as thoughtful!!!!!!!!!!

          • Most likely his response wouldve been to blow up a trash can

          • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0

            holy fuck that was spot on.

            Watching how happy my 3yr old was to make his little 2 month old brother smile made my day….and i wasn’t even fazed when a driver called me a white devil motherfucker because i had the audacity to try to Merge onto the exit ramp at Ohio St…using the Merge lane.

          • Haha. You should tell them you love MocaManMoutains to get street cred! (nttawwt)

            Yeah, kids can be awesome. One day I walked into my Sis’ house and my nephews ran up to me, hugged me, and said they loved me, just like that.

            Aint gonna lie. was a bit startled.

            But man, felt good. No ulterior motives, or sarcasm, or politics…

            Didn’t realize how much I needed that if even briefly.

            Then they went back to beating ea other up lol

      • Absolutely. Hitler didn’t start off putting Jews in ovens, purging politicians, activists and newspapers, or invading Poland and Russia.

        He slowly built up to that, testing “democracies” (which he considered weak like someone we know he prefers autocrats and tyrants).

        By the time ppl stood up 10 yrs later, it was too late.

        Twilight Zone once painted a Nazi US as a warning.

        It’s one we should especially heed now

        • catfish44

          our rights are being taken away day by day. crimes, like the children abductions, happen every week. slowly we are losing our country.

      • catfish44

        we are going down the rabbit hole.

    • I thought the opposite would happen. That Trump will win the general and lose the electoral. Apparently, Trump felt the same cuz he kept setting up how the election is rigged for months. Funny how he doesn’t refrain that anymore.

      I just see Trump as a stress test right now. A good way to test our checks and institutions and grass roots.

      Sometimes it’s the law which checks him like with the Muslim band. The American ppl themselves had to check his interning children. The media is doing a great job of fact checking him and exposing Trump’s massive corruption and blatant lies.

      I think the most surprising part for me is the Reps just rolling over so easily.

      They’re such sycophants. Now I see how a cult of personality is allowed to rise to power while the right just cowers and is complicit.

      Only a few Republicans have stood up for their principals against Trump.

      Lindsey Graham on Charlottesville. Rand on spending bill. McCain on health bill. Cruz on immigration. A handful on Tarrifs (mostly out of self preservation)

      But other than that, they mainly twist their principals to Trump.


      Makes me wonder what wouldve happened if Trump took over in a real time of crisis like in the 30s instead of when he inherited a strong economy and international peace and cooperation (which he is now eroding)from Obama…

      • willbest

        Trump has been better at following the law than the last two presidents. Most people’s problems with him is that they are realizing the laws suck.

        Outside the SC rulings I have highlighted there were a couple others which the court ruled on that are for all practical purposes stupid outcomes. But the court decided not to save congress from themselves. And that is the true problem with the American system right now. The legislature outsourced half its job to the executive and the other half of its job to the judiciary and decided that it was content just to be there to be hated by the American public and hand out special favors to their “friends”

        • AlbertInTucson

          “The legislature outsourced half its job to the executive and the other half of its job to the judiciary…”


        • catfish44

          better? he hasn’t done a single thing right since he has been in office!

          • Sactowns#1

            I guess he means better at trying to implement policies that dont pass constitutional or legal muster. Muslim ban, indefinite detainment of asylum seekers, I’m guessing a lot of the environmental protection rollbacks will lose in court. Etc etc

      • Johnnywad

        And yet, prepare yourself for a second term.

        • * IF he survives Mueller probe
          *IF the blue wave doesn’t get 58ish dems in Senate (pretty sure McCain and 1 other REP would impeach Trump)
          *IF economy doesn’t regress (many predict it’s at the end of a 10 yr cycle)
          *IF Dems nominate an underwhelming candidate again

          The last can’t be emphasized enough. I heard somewhere that REPs vote out of duty, and DEMs out of inspiration.

          True generally. If it’s another cookie cutter retread like Hilllary, Dukakis, Gore, Kerry…yeah, Dems won’t turn out.

          If it’s someone like Bernie or another up and comer (Kennedy) it’s over for Reps

          Those Dems in Michigan, PA, Florida, etc arnt staying home next time around

          • Johnnywad

            I live in Michigan. Billions of dollars are being poured into manufacturing facilities all over the state that have been shuttered for decades. There is such a skilled labor shortage that wages for low level trades jobs are skyrocketing. Make no mistake, barring a tremendous reversal in that sector, this state is going to be more red than ever. I’ve never seen anything like it.

          • Anytime a “pro biz” rep comes in and talks about deregulation, tax cuts, etc it’s like a bump of coke to the stock market, esp if the economy was already trending up.

            But as history has proven time and again, the high wears off and “socialist” have to clean up the trickle down mess like FDR and Obama.

            Only question is – when will the high wear off this time around?

            If it’s before the next elections, Trump will slump, though he’ll still be in the game for sure as it takes more than 4 yrs for the high to totally tank

          • Johnnywad

            Agree with the notion that it all depends on the timing of the next recession. But I’m not talking at all about the stock market. I’m talking about very real investment in facilities, equipment, and training. That’s a big deal in Michigan given the manufacturing history and devastation of it all.

          • Is this due to the tariffs? Or just the economy humming in your view?

          • Johnnywad

            Butch, as we’re talking about this, I flip over to Facebook. A friend of a friend, whom I know very little about, other than the fact that he’s President of a local Autoworkers Union in the Saginaw, MI area, posted this.


            Shit you not.

          • Ha.
            1. I never bought into Hill, so her losing came as a mild shock. Trump was more shocked than I
            2. I don’t know how they DON’T pass tax cuts controlling all 3 branches. Trump had to try mighty hard to fuck that up like his wall and repeal and replace
            3. 3% is nothing to sneeze at, but again, inherited a robust economy + pro wall st coke bump
            4. Bringing N Korea to the table was never an issue. Any pres could’ve done it. The trick is getting them to totally denuke like Trump said he’ll get them to. Right now, N Korea has agreed to a lot less than Iran w Obama

            But, this is just more bifurcation.

            They’ll get their memes and spin from Fox, Unite the Right and Russian bots, and the rest of reality will oppose

          • Johnnywad

            The only salient point, is that post is from a Union Steward. That’s my point.

          • willbest

            Because the GOP is the party that pretends its for the working class people now. People act like things don’t change. California used to be a GOP stronghold and Texas a democrat one.

          • willbest

            Iran agreed to take a lot of money and do nothing of consequence. North Korea has agreed to do nothing of consequence and we have agreed to do nothing of consequence. The Memes are entertaining though.

          • willbest

            FDR doubled down on Hoover’s policy corrections in much the same way Obama implemented Bush’s policy solutions. The problem isn’t the crash. Its the socializing of the losses post crash that creates the next one. These bankers are never forced to learn.

            Who loses if Citi goes under? Most people don’t have 100k in the bank. They get paid out of the insurance pool. Maybe they lose access to their money for a couple months and yes that can be a HUGE problem, but down at the street level people can deal with that. Its the fat cats that are hosed.

          • I agree about HAVING to save the banks.
            It’s the worst type of socialism. It’s like not having car insurance, then crashing, then paying a BOATLOAD more than needed if the socialism was there to start .

            And the banks always use the same argument. Well, it’s either bail us out, or this is the end of western civilization.

            And the tax payers are the ones screwed over to cover Wall St greed.

            If the socialist safeguards were there to start, the crashes wouldn’t be so bad.

            If social security existed before the depression, no Grapes of Wrath type misery (not to mention the world wide ramifications like WW2)

            I remember a lot of Bush Republicans talking about ending social security and letting the citizen invest in the free market. Evil Govt investing your $!

            Imagine if they actually followed through with that when the market crashed in 08?

            Holy shit.

            Socialism has to come save capitalism, regulations and such are tighten, then the recovery, then deregulations take place and Wall St figures out another way to fuck everything up because it’s based on greed, the market crashes, rinse wash repeat.

          • AlbertInTucson

            “These bankers are never forced to learn.”

            Because not enough of them go to jail.

            And they get bailout money with zero strings attached and use it to pay “bonuses”.

          • SC Dave

            FDR fixed nothing. Without WWII his economic legacy would be startlingly different.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Do you think that influx was “inherited” from Obama policies ?

            Because I certainly do not.

          • Johnnywad

            I really don’t know What I do know, is Americans generally don’t care. It’s happening while he’s at the helm. And that’s all that matters when it comes to voting.

          • willbest

            Its happening because the corporate tax rate got cut. That freed up more money for capital expenditures, wages, price reductions, and yes more money for shareholders.

            The US corporate taxes were uncompetitively high, which encourages US companies to keep their money oversees to avoid paying it. You could say “make them pay it” but if you tried that then you would have seen a lot of inversions out of the country, because no other country is as insane as the US when it comes to tax policy. The only way we can remotely get away with it is because we are 20-25% of the worldwide consumption.

            As for why companies are investing in the US, there are a number of factors, but I think you have to look beyond the US to truly understand it.

            Nationalism is not limited to the US. It is rising in Europe, and in a far more intense manner. I don’t know if Brussels is going to be able to keep the EU together all that much longer. So the US looks more attractive relative to the common market as a place to invest.

            China has always been corrupt, but companies are starting to tire of the demands that they hand over their IP, and then end up facing competitors that are protected by the Chinese government as a result. Also, the cost of labor is rising there. Making it less attractive when you factor in transport costs, import duties (with Trump threatening trade war), etc.

            Mechanization. Robots doing more work which means you want your factories near the guys that are capable of working on robots. China greatly lags in advancing that technology.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            The Chinese are lagging on building and advancing robots??? They have a guy that built a Scarlett Johansson robot.


            How is that not advancing robotic technology? No one else built a Johansson robot.

          • willbest

            Unless it can cook, its just a vibrator for men.

          • AlbertInTucson

            The Tax Cut?!

            HAS to be mere coincidence because there is no way to credit Obama with that.

            ( Sarcasm).

          • BerwynBomber

            The economy has been growing/recovering for near eight years now.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Yeah, right.


          • BerwynBomber

            Facts? Or is this just your right wing “opinion”?

            You do realize that Obama inherited the biggest financial crisis since the Depression, correct?

          • AlbertInTucson

            “Economy has been recovering..”


            Obama gave us Solyndra, non-existent, “shovel ready” jobs, “Cash for Clunkers” which just put a lot of used car dealers out of business and an Economy that was so wonderful the Fed interest rates were frozen for years and the Government came up with a creative new way to calculate unemployment figures so they wouldn’t look as bad as they actually were.

            I almost forgot the huge success that was Obamacare.
            “If you like your coverage, you can keep your coverage”.

            You like him, Berwyn, you can have him.

            I don’t expect to convert you.

            To me, he is the 2017 Edition Cleveland Browns of US Presidents.

          • BerwynBomber

            LOL. Yeah, that’s bonkers.
            I can give large leeway for partisanship. Hell, I’m one myself. But calling Obama the 2017 CLE Browns of POTUSes. Well, I’ll be kind and say it is “revealing”.

          • BerwynBomber

            Dim. Very, very dim.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Yes, he was.

          • catfish44

            both parties are hopelessly corrupt, bought and paid for.

          • willbest

            Obama’s sec treasury and economic advisers told us to get used to 2% growth for 8 odd years as the new norm. He probably even said it himself at some point.

            So if you assume Obama understood the policies he was implementing, then it was Trump that spurred investment. Now, you could subscribe to the Butch theory that deregulation is crack to the economy, and is going to cause a crash later. That is a perfectly valid theory based on facts available. But that the economy just decided 3-4% was possible after 8 years of Obama policies and Obama experts telling us it wasn’t with no positive impact from trump… Well that just doesn’t square with the facts.

          • catfish44

            bs. part time jobs. jobs with little or no benefits. the american empire is going to crumble and collapse. both parties share the blame.

          • BerwynBomber

            Even if what you allege is unbiased/objective truth and attributable to Trump, I wonder if it will move the needle that much.

            The reason? The GOP has pretty much had a lock on the white working class vote since Reagan. Bubba, I believe, has been only Dem who has won it since.

            So I suppose it will strengthen his base but I don’t see the base being his issue re-election-wise.

            Anyway, long way out. Who knows how things will look in ’20 regardless of anyone’s tea leaf-reading.

          • Johnnywad

            In my experience, Union membership has voted nearly exclusively for the Dems.

          • willbest

            While Reagan won white working class voters, 2016 was the first time since prior to 1948 that whites in the bottom 3 quintiles were more likely than whites in the top two quintiles to vote GOP.

            In fact, 2012 was the first time that top quint whites voted Dem probably since FDR, and they moved even further to the dem column in 2016.


  • willbest

    Good on Roberts and the liberal justices in ruling the police need a warrant to get your old location data. They left open the possibility to that your current location might still
    be available without a warrant, but where you were a few days ago, now
    needs a warrant.

    The 3rd party doctrine generally allows the police to gather any information that you voluntarily share with a 3rd party without a warrant. Roberts and the 4 liberal justices engaged in some pragmatism about the nature of the modern world. That because cellphones are almost a necessity to function in the modern world, and the data collected by the service provide so detailed, it cannot be practically considered voluntarily given.

    The third party doctrine predates the digital era and could use some updating. What we really need is about 5-6 Amendments that flesh out the 4th Amendment, but I expect Civil War 2 before I expect that to happen.

    • You got an article on it? So much shit going on (not least of which internet freedom, FISA warrants, gerrymandering, monopolies…)

      • willbest

        My go to for SC matters is scotusblog.


        Having read through the opinion and dissents, Gorsuch probably has the right of it. From the link

        “Gorsuch would scrap both the third-party doctrine and the “reasonable
        expectation of privacy” test and focus instead on whether someone has a
        property interest (even if not a complete one) in the records at issue.
        But here, he pointed out, the court does not have any information on
        this question, because Carpenter didn’t make this argument in the lower

        That last bit is why he is a dissent and not a concurrence, because he includes reasoning why your location data belongs, in part, to you. But he isn’t willing to grant petitioners arguments they didn’t make.

        So good outcome, but as Kennedy implies the majority just made an even bigger mess of the 3rd party doctrine.

        • I’ll def have to check it out. I think the govt can seize cells at the border w out restriction.

          I might be a socialist on some issues, but I tend to lean libertarian on a lot of other issues like gay marriage, abortion, guns, euthanasia, drugs, prostitution, not policing the world, etc

          Don’t know if you saw the video I posted of Rand debating Graham on who is deemed a criminal and who an “enemy combatant” but it was a heated exchange , and I’m leaning more towards Rand position, but totally get Graham

          Also I’m extremely concerned about FISA warrants and the ridicules rates of success the Gov has on charges.

          As the saying goes, the government can charge a pie and make it stick.

          So I was actually for the investigation of the FBI (in spite of ulterior motives)

    • evantonio

      It always amazes me how apeshit people go over protecting their interpretation of the second ammendment, while they couldn’t care less about the seemingly endless incursions on the 4th.

  • ButtonShoes

    Nobody’s going to give this team a 4th round pick for Trevathan. He just can’t stay healthy. Would be nice to get, though.

  • Alright, we need some balance. So, happy FRI!


    • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0

      Jameis Winston and his homeys would love to rape those titties.

      • CanadaBear

        Esp if any of them are Uber drivers!

        • AlbertInTucson

          A LOT of conflicting accounts of the evening from his Pals.

          • CanadaBear

            With the incident being 2 years old and tons of he said/she said I’m a little surprised he’s likely getting suspended. Glad it’s not the Bears problem.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Yep. No real hard evidence (No pun intended) but, Winston’s sketchy history brings an assumption of guilt.

    • Irish Sweetness

      God Bless you my son.

      #14 – Gray top, in the car, big hoop earring.

      That should be illegal.

  • BuddhaJoe

    I get he’s hurt a lot but trying but unloading the best ILB they’ve got now would be stupid.

    • Yeah, Da Blog is rather unanimous on that front.

      If they should trade anyone, it should be Long while he still has some cache.

      Love him, but can’t make the club in the tub.

      Let the future begin. Kush/Morgan… that converted DE

      • BuddhaJoe

        If he misses significant time this year I’ll agree but I can’t right now. The guy’s a fucking warrior who went through an unlucky stretch. We shall see I guess.

        • CanadaBear

          That’s exactly where I’m at. If anyone deserves the benefit of the doubt it’s Long.

      • nobody is trading for Long right now given his contract and his injuries over the last 2 years.

  • EnderWiggin

    I don’t get the reference of this week’s Tee shirt. What do the two green lights around a cub with a bat signify?

    • AlbertInTucson

      “Swing away”?

  • AlbertInTucson

    Suits with short pants.


  • CanadaBear

    Not that anyone should get too worked up over a poll but 1,100 NFL players voted and not one Bear was listed in the top 100 players for the 2nd year in a row.


    • AlbertInTucson

      So, there are 100 guys better than Jordan Howard?


      Another off-season, meaningless, space-filling exercise.

      • willbest

        10 best QBs, and the top 3 best at every position not ST is ~70 players right there. I don’t think it’s a stretch for Howard to be off the top 100 when there 5 rbs you would take over him.

        • CanadaBear

          Howard and Hicks come to mind. I didn’t comb the list but the article mentions the Fudgies have 7!!!!!!!!!!!!! and the Queens 5.

          • willbest

            Queens at 5, I could buy, no fucking way Packers have 7

          • CanadaBear


          • AlbertInTucson

            So, like I said, meaningless list.

            Show more classic NFL Films Presents, NFL Net.

          • CanadaBear

            The only reason I find it interesting is because it’s from a majority of the players (1,100).

          • willbest

            Hicks surprises me a little because he absolutely is top 5 at his position.

    • Malice Halice

      That’s what I was mentioning the other day. When the list got down to 20 n I didn’t Howard, Fuller or Hicks I was thinkin damn they got us fucked up. Howard of all players tho, but the NFL will FEEL Da Bears wrath Sept.9

  • AlbertInTucson

    Can Tampa get away with Keeping Winston as their QB?

    • evantonio

      You think they should move him to TE?

      • AlbertInTucson

        I’m thinking they want to drop him like a hot potato because he’s a proven turnover machine and now, more of a PR nightmare then ever.

    • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0

      No way. Dude is a savage with a smile.

  • AlbertInTucson

    On now on NFL Network. NFL Redzone from week 14 of last season.

    Bears 33 at Cincinnati 7.

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