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Ranking the Entire Bears Roster: Top of the Heap (1-10)

| July 26th, 2018

As I got down this list and into the top ten, it struck me that the only player Ryan Pace isn’t responsible for bringing in is Kyle Long. Not only has Pace turned nearly the entire roster over, but he’s brought in almost all of their best players in a short amount of time. And what’s different this year is that some of their best players are actually among the best in the league.

The list.

10. Eddie Jackson, S

This is largely a bet on upside. Had he not gotten injured in his final season at Alabama, Jackson would’ve been drafted a lot higher than he was. He has shown the ability to find the ball early in his NFL career and I’m guessing that he’s only going to get better.

9. Roquan Smith, LB

A bit high before he’s had an official NFL practice? Maybe. But Smith is the perfect linebacker for today’s game: fast, heady and packs a punch.

8. Leonard Floyd, Edge

Floyd has shown the ability to dominate when he’s on his game. We just haven’t seen enough of that. I have a hunch that he’s going to breakout this year.

7. Kyle Long, OG

It’s been a few years since Long has actually played at an elite level, but he says he’s ready to go and healthier than he’s been in a long time. If he stays healthy, there’s no reason to think he won’t be great again.

6. Danny Trevathan, LB

It was lost in a little bit of controversy but Trevathan had a great year last year. He isn’t great in any one area, but does a lot of things at a very high level.

5. Tarik Cohen, RB

One of the most explosive players in the NFL, Cohen is playing in an offense that should really play to his strengths. Don’t be shocked if he tallies close to 2,000 all-purpose yards.

4. Cody Whitehair, C

Maybe it was a bit of a down year for Whitehair last year, but he was still really good, all things considered. I think this is the year he takes another step and becomes one of the best centers in the league.

3. Allen Robinson II, WR

It’s been three years since he was dominant, but man was he dominant. I expect Robinson to start a little slow in a new offense, playing with a new quarterback, while coming off of a serious knee injury. But he is one of the few players on the team who can take over a game.

2. Jordan Howard RB

A lot of time has been wasted talking about Howard’s flaws, but through two years he has averaged 4.6 yards per carry and run for 15 touchdowns. He claims he has worked on his hands. If that’s true he’s going to be recognized as one of the three best backs in the league.

1. Akiem Hicks, DL

It’s hard to envision a player being more complete than Hicks was last year. He was dominant against the run and was the team’s best pass rusher. Hicks just doesn’t have a flaw. If the Bears had won more games the last two years, he’d be recognized as one of the five best defensive linemen in the league. His time will come.

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  • SC Dave

    We all knew who was on the list; only the order was left. You hedged your bets properly, IMO, although I think I would have swapped Robinson and Whitehair, and probably gone Jackson, Floyd, Smith as 8, 9, 10.

  • That Guy

    #1 RYAN NALL, FUTURE HoF-er!

  • SC Dave
    • BenderMcLugh

      isn’t that only for the top 10 picked rookies?

      • SC Dave

        Maybe.

        • BenderMcLugh

          I read yesterday from Campbell ( I think) about the firm Smith, Donald are using — the same one that other first rounders are using — and all of those clients have been delayed agreeing to a contract. Point being, this isn’t on Smith so much as it is on the agents.

          • CanadaBear

            Same group that negotiated Bosa’s contract/holdout.

          • Jokey

            This kid needs to be in practice. At some point he’s gotta have the maturity to realize that. He’s not making any friends in the locker room either, I bet.

          • SC Dave

            It’s unclear; no doubt some players understand the “business” side of things.

            Although I cannot imagine guys like Jordan Howard are too sympathetic to some untried player coming in who will make over four times as much as JH’s entire contract before he even plays a down in the league.

            https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/chicago-bears/jordan-howard-19104/

            Estimate:
            Roquan Smith $18,733,972 total with $11,695,107 as signing bonus

          • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0

            Roquan balled in college at Alabama and Jorden Howard played at UAB and then Indiana. Dems da breaks.
            I hear you though.

          • CanadaBear

            He’s getting snookered by his agency. They are negotiating for their rep and nothing else.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Yes, it is.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      A couple commie bastards. I bet they both voted for Trump.

  • Irish Sweetness

    I had to share this.

    An amazing doco on the kids rescued from a cave 2.5 KM inside a mountain.
    Really it’s the story of men with the biggest balls on the planet.

    It’s 55 minutes but if you watch the last 15 you’ll get the picture of what big hairy balls look like.

    In order to get the kids through 9 caves and tight submerged passages – a 3 hour journey – they had to anaesthetize the kids first. The rescue divers had to take a kid and carry them through horrendous passages in the dark. If the kid’s mask moved even a bit … that kid was dead.

    After the first four came out, the conditions got worse and visibility was nil for the rest.
    One of the British divers in the chatshow segment at the bottom took four kids out. 3 hours in, 3 hours of very stressful out … times four.

    Biggest balls on the planet.

    The one below is a 6 minute interview with the Britsh rescue divers.

  • SC Dave
    • Irish Sweetness

      Is it just my brower or does that article look like it was written on a beer mat … pissed on …. crumpled up and thrown in a bucket of water?

      • SC Dave

        Not your browser

    • leftcoastdave

      Great read on Nagy’s new school style:

      “Success is not bred in overworking NFL players. It’s created in
      intelligent efforts that pertain to the main football tasks at hand. A
      needless reliance on aspects the Bears already understand, like hitting
      hard, didn’t serve them well in recent years. A self-imposed shell and
      lack of an open mentality only detracted from the Bears’ efforts as
      well.”

      Also of note what I have read elsewhere about how Nagy is pushing Trubisky to air it out.

      “He’s in the flight simulator right now,” said Nagy of Mitchell
      Trubisky’s early camp play. “He’s testing things out right now, we’re
      testing things out too. There are so many routes and concepts in this
      offense, it takes time.”

      Nice change from “keep it safe.”

  • Irish Sweetness

    How does A-Rob look in camp? Anyone?

    • SC Dave

      Read a little here and there about working to get his confidence back when making certain cuts.

      I did my ACL; though in my 40s, several million miles from being an NFL player, and without full-time access to professional trainers, there was this little thing in my mind about whether the knee really *was* right after repair.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Wow, I thought he was good to go.

        • SC Dave

          All indications are he’s fine physically. Just a little mental hump to get over, and that may take a game or two. Hopefully preseason will solve all that.

      • Sactowns#1

        After my ACL it took me a little over a year to go skiing. When I did, I made my girlfriend go with me (she wasnt a skier and just sat in the lodge) so she could drive me home in case i blew out my leg again. but it was all psychological. After one good spill, and no blown ligaments, I was good to go and had my confidence back. I imagine something similar will happen for Robinson.

        • SC Dave

          I think it will take game action as the equivalent to you testing the hill. Hopefully preseason game 1, one week from tonight.

    • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0

      dude forget A-Rob, did you see J-Lo?

  • willbest

    Robinson, Smith, and Cohan arent top 10, fuller, Goldman, Leno are. Also, am I going blind or did Meredith die? I don’t see him on yesterday’s list

    • SC Dave

      Meredith is on the Saints; last I read he has inside track to be their #2 wideout.

      • willbest

        Holy shit. I completely blocked that stupidity from my mind. Now I got be annoyed with it a second time

        • SC Dave

          I can sympathize with that. But you had to go and mention him.

        • He’ll probably match Robinson’s production in NO. Watch.

          • SC Dave

            Would not surprise me; after all, he does have Brees.

          • Malice Halice

            Not hapnen (happening), he gotta compete against the #1 wr, the RB duo, AAAANND learn da offense. Too many knowledgeable targets. NO offense is not crafted for Meredith like Da Bears is conjuring for Allen. I think

          • True, but that division is high-flying. They’re always in shoot outs in the dirty south.

          • Malice Halice

            True I forgot they can tap 30 points quite often

      • Johnnywad

        They’re not even sure how much he’ll be able to participate in camp yet. So, while I suppose it’s possible, that seems unlikely.

        • SC Dave

          Well, it was on the internet, johnny, so it’s OBVIOUSLY true.

          • Johnnywad

            To be fair, so was the piece I read stating they didn’t know what to expect and that he’s going to be day to day with the hope he’s full go by week 1.

            Good for him to not show up on the PUP list. It’s a start.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis
    • Andy did a bit of projecting when it came to the top 10

      I guess he’s as much a homer as we are.

  • BenderMcLugh

    11:19pm Central Time, Allen Robinson on theScore right now for those interested. Thanks Aaron Leming for the heads up
    http://player.radio.com/listen/station/670-the-score#.W1n0AExFyUl

    • BenderMcLugh

      Edit: 11:19 AM.

  • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0

    Roquan needs to be in camp. He’s a rookie and is supposed to be a starting ILB. It’s tough that this is about offset language.
    I predict a firestorm if this lasts past the weekend.

    • CanadaBear

      Smith is actually taking it in the shorts for his rep’s agency. The chances of him not being on the roster for 4 years is extremely unlikely and all this hooey isn’t going to get him any extra cash. FFS all he has to do is be pretty good and he will be loved around town (and in commercials).

    • Malice Halice

      I’m blaming Roquan for not signing. Fuck his agent n whatever else. If the man wanna play football he’d be playing football. I’m praying he got the tablet with him if anything so there’s somewhat of a benefit. I really wonder how the locker room is gonna play out 7 days n a few hours from now. This don’t seem like a Joey Bosa issue but I will ignorantly blame Roquan for not signing. Earn yo fuckin keep. Nobody knows Roquan, none of the praise mean shit till he can play against NFL caliber guys the way he did in GA.

      • SC Dave

        Do you really think the Bears would be stupid enough to give their playbook to someone not under contract?

        • Malice Halice

          I though he had a tablet already that got stolen n replaced?

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Yes they gave him the playbook. They give all the rookies play once they are drafted. Smith had his stolen early on.

          • Malice Halice

            So is he allowed to have the tablet during this “holdout”? Do players only workout during holdouts or what?

          • willbest

            Probably a friend who thought he could shop it to the Packers

          • Roq probably sold it on Ebay in case he doesn’t get offset contract

          • SC Dave

            That’s fucking dumb… they better at least make them sign NDAs.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Every team does it.

          • SC Dave

            And that makes it smart?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            The tablets are secure and can be remotely disabled, so I don’t understand the issue.

          • SC Dave

            Ever heard of a camera? It’s a thing that like, makes near-perfect images.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Sorry, I just don’t understand why you have an issue with giving drafted who haven’t signed a contract access to playbooks. These players can’t just decide to sign with another team, their rights belong to the team that drafted them. I can’t even think of the last player that decided not play for the team that drafted them, probably Elway. These guys are eventually going to sign. And if something does go wrong I am sure teams have some type of legal recourse.

      • AlbertInTucson

        “I’m blaming Roquan”

        SMH.

  • DaCoaches Mustache

    When has Floyd ever shown the ability to dominate?

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      You should play him in checkers. He is a fricken animal!

    • Yeah, the highlight of his career was the strip/sack/safety.

      But even Shea made a play (breaking Vadgers)

      Floyd’s gotta hit double digit sacks this season, IMO, to justify his draft slot.

      If not, he’s another good not great player in the Alex Brown tier. (Brown was drafted in the 4rth)

      • SC Dave

        And Dent in the 8th.

        • Izzy went undrafted.
          And he’s like the definition of good-not-great player.

          For being undrafted, he had a great career.

          • SC Dave

            So did Jay Hilgenberg. A lot bit better than “good-not-great”

        • John F

          How about Bortz in the 8th round …..155 starts and 171 total games played…….

    • SC Dave

      Well, he does have two safeties, tying him for 22nd all time career safeties. In only two years.

      • Malice Halice

        The one in against Erin should be credited as 3 for emotional value. Never knew I could fall in love with a man in 1 play.

  • willbest

    “Adam Shaheen is going to make big plays in the offense. He’s not going to be a 75-catch guy…and he won’t need to be.” – jeff

    If Shaheen has 75 catches it means that Robinson isn’t the WR Pace thought he was.

    • Shaheen is Matt Spaeth until he proves otherwise.

      • willbest

        Shaheen was the best TE on the Bears roster, as a rookie, after Miller got a leg. I think that shows a bit more promise than Spaeth.

        • That’s because the other TEs where Dan Brown (good books, awful movies), Braukner, and Sims

          Spaeth was also better than them.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Why would it mean anything about Robinson? Should be plenty of balls to go around. My guess is there is going to be 500+ pass attempts this season. I don’t think he will get to 75 but that fact should not determine how Robinson is performing

      • Malice Halice

        I thinks it’s about the spread. We gone have atleast 4 guys with a minimum of 50 catches this year easily. Yards won’t be much but it’s finna be a galore of completed passes dis year. Mitch will have about 35-45 attempts a game.

        • SC Dave

          It don’t matter. The only thing that matters is winning.

          Well, and Howard blowing up for 1700+ rushing so they don’t do something stupid like letting him do that for Green Bay.

          • Malice Halice

            Dilly Dilly!

        • leftcoastdave

          And YAC with them all.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          We had that in the past also. In 2014, Jeffrey – 85, Marshall -61, Forte -102, Bennett -90. Thats doesn’t include the other minor players that had 5-10 catches. There will be plenty to go around.

      • There’s some debate about how Nagy will playcall. That article you linked had Howard rushing for 1,400 under the premise that Nagy is going to ground and pound.

        He might. The Chiefs began losing when they didn’t feed Hunt. Then they got humiliated in the playoffs cuz they went away from Hunt.

        Maybe Nagy has learned, and will lean on the run big time.

        Oregon O is run-heavy as well.

        If our D keeps the score close, might be a run heavy team while Trub digests the O.

        • SC Dave

          So long as the ‘W’s pile up, I don’t give a shit how they do it.

          • Ditto. But Nagy might lean on the run more early in the season while Trub acclimates himself

            Then again, he might go balls-to-the Walls a la Eagles.

        • leftcoastdave

          Nagy has him throwing deep quite often now but you have to know he will be going higher percentage to clear the box and pound the rock.

      • willbest

        Because its not even apparent that Shaheen is to be the #1 TE. They are paying Burton like he is. So how does Shaheen end up commanding the 100-110 targets necessary to get 75 catches? I suppose its possible he actually turns into Kelce, but its far more likely going to be the result of the team missing a true WR#1 that would command 120-130+ targets.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          thats fine and all – but it still has little to do with Robinsons performance, it would be more on Burton sucking.

          • Malice Halice

            What if shaheen is our goal line, short yard conversion guy, he, and Jordan Howard would confuse da shit out of DC’s.

          • Shaheen will most definitely be the goaline short yd TE.

            I’m curious to see if he can beat out Sims though. I think he’ll be ahead of Sims on the depth chart simply due to draft status, but as the season goes on, I wonder if Sims takes over as the main blocking/Y TE

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            we are going to start the year running strictly 3 TE sets.

          • SC Dave

            “We get off the bus running”

          • Johnnywad

            “Rex is our quarterback.”

          • “We stand breathless on the clean edge of change.” –

          • leftcoastdave

            I read that too, heavy on the 3 TE sets. That tape earlier posted showed one such big play with Burton in motion and Sims open in the middle on a slant for 20 yards or so after a fake to JoHo into the line.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Oh shit, I was joking

          • Remember when we were all excited about 3TE set last off-season?

            I doubt we see much 3TE set, not with all those WRs Pace just signed.

          • Malice Halice

            Sims got a shoutout from da coach himself so yea, could be tough.

          • SC Dave

            No one cares what Ditka thinks.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Except me obviously. He’s in the HoF for being a TE and winnining two super bowls.

          • I was surprised that he was NOT a first ballot HOF.

            He’s arguably a top 3 TE.Then won a SB as player and coach (and coached the greatest team of all time)

            Little factoid I just found

            “He is the only head coach in the history of the Super Bowl to score a touchdown in a Super Bowl as a player.”

            that being said, he’s still an ass.

          • willbest

            Really? That was how Burton was used last year. So we have 2 of those now?

          • Burton is going to be the “move” TE; he’s 6’3 235. in other words, Alshon is bigger than him, so I don’t think he’ll be in-line blocking much.

            I compare Shaheen to Spaeth cuz they’re both 6’6 270ish, so they can act as a sorta defacto OT in jumbo packages, short and goaline. From time to time they sneak out and catch a TD or first down.

            Sims is right in between. 6’5 262, so theoretically he could do a little of the move and a little of the Y. That’s what Pace envisioned when he paid him.

            But Sims ended up becoming “jack of all, master of none”

            But I think Sims looked better blocking late season, if memory serves.

          • SC Dave

            I bet that Sims starts at the top of the depth chart simply due to salary.

        • Malice Halice

          If he’s catching the ball for like 5 yards at most on a slant I could see it happening while keeping Trey’s tray full.

        • SC Dave

          77 targets should be enough for 75 catches.

          #hands
          #catchradius

          #imkidding

          • willbest

            In that line of thinking, I could never figure out why 95% wasn’t the NBA average on free throws.

          • Malice Halice

            They’re like field goals. So close but yet so far

    • SC Dave

      If Shaheen has 75 catches, I’m fine with it.

      • Spoiler alert – he’s not.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          I agree, much too low. I am thinking 120.

          • Malice Halice

            Would you consider Shaheen to be better than that Tower Jesse James in Pittsburgh? Dudes like 6’7 or 6’8 I believe.

          • For as much shit that we give Sims, he actually had an equal or better yr than Shaheen by the numbers

            Sims——-Rec-15—180yds—1TD
            Shaheen–Rec-12–127yds—-3TDs
            Gronk——Rec–9–116yds—-2TDs (SB LI)

          • SC Dave

            Depends on what numbers you look at. Shaheen caught 85.7% of his targets, Sims 51.7%. If you look at TD/target, Shaheen wins by an insane margin

          • By those #s, Shaheen did seem more efficient.

            But he still didn’t even crack 200 yds

            I think I predicted a Max Williams type season from Shaheen at the start of the season (30 recs, 230, 2TDs) so I really didn’t expect much from him to start given that TE is perhaps the toughest position outside QB for any rook.

            But he’s gotta crack 500yds this yr I think.

            Any schmuck can get 200-300 yds. Don’t need to flush a 2nd RDer on that production.

          • willbest

            Dude… Pox fucked a giraffe for 4 weeks, after which we implemented the vaunted RRPP offense. Shaheen was 3rd on the depth chart until Miller died on the field. And W@B still went to the TE with worse hands than Howard. Plus we had no WRs. Shaheen stats are a miracle.

          • So you think he hits 500 yds/5Tds this season?

          • willbest

            Seems reasonable to me, assuming he gets at least 50% of the offensive snaps

    • leftcoastdave

      I have not seen much tape of Shaheen from camp, but it appears he is leaning out, losing some of that “Chipolte” weight. I have heard that he is playing all three positions which is good, but we know Burton is focus being in motion for the read and have seen some nice targets to Sims. The only throws to Shaheen seem to be of the old button hook, aka curl route. Maybe they want to keep him cloaked.

      • Shaheen needs to get more explosive. He needs to go work out with Gronk or JJ Watt or something, cuz he’s getting no separation on his routes.

        Hopefully a leaner/meaner Shaheen can blast of of his breaks.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I think we hear fuck all from Adam Shaheen.

  • BerwynBomber

    Day 6 of Bears Camp.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Ends with a cool long run TD from Ryan Nall. Nice.

      In other news … Kev White and Jonathan Anderson had nightmares.

      • SC Dave

        Future Hall-of-Famer Ryan Nall, you mean.

    • lol I like that part where Eddie Jackson slaps it away from Gabriel’s hands after he’s making that 1st down sign.

      Already getting chippy.

      Trub must’ve got the memo. He doesn’t seem to stare down the receivers in this one, goes through his progressions. There was a nice throw where he was looking left, then goes right bomb to White (who of course,drops it).

      Jet sweep at the goaline with Gabriel. I expect to see that jet sweep with him and Cohen a lot.

      And naturally, it ends on HOFer Nall TD run. Nice.

      • SC Dave

        I think Nall makes this team.
        And I think the leading receiver in 2018 will be a rookie… Miller.

        • You think they cut Cunningham for Nall?

          Usually the 4rth HB would have to play specials. Then again, maybe he does.

  • John F

    Our 9th best player is someone who isn’t even officially on the team and has never played in an NFL game ……. now that is pathetic …….

    • He can tackle tablets like a HOFer

      • John F

        Of the top 10 guys, four have serious and/or recurring injury issues – Robinson, Trevathan, Long, and Floyd. Another thing that is pretty sad ……….

        • Andy projected big time in the top 10

          It could be argued that based on actual evidence, Leno and Fuller belong in the top 10. In which case, 3 of the top 10 players on the current roster are not even Pace but Emery guys.

          (And if Alshon would’ve been extended – 4 outtta 10, or nearly half, in spite of Pace “rebuilding” for 4 yrs now)

          Let that sink in

          • Johnnywad

            Alshon on the PUP list.

          • CanadaBear

            Let what sink in? Your constant whining about Pace, trying to put everything in the worst possible light to make your point. Uh-no.

          • That’s not the worst possible light. The worst possible light is that Shaheen is Spaeth, Burton is another Sims, White finally is cut, Arob isn’t the same after the INJ, Floyd gets concussed and ponders retirement, Amos regresses, Fuller stops playing now that he’s paid, Prince gets inj again, Long finally breaks apart on the field, our best pass rusher is Acho, and Trub/Nagy are busts…

            But I’m not making that argument.

            Only that it’s valid that 3 out of the top 10 player are Emery guys.

          • Emery had a few great draft picks. The problem was that he had way too many strikeouts. Outside of those guys, there was nobody any good. You have guys like Bostic and Mills who are still in the league, but everybody else decent who he brought in was old and/or an attitude problem .

          • And this is why I contend, to date, Pace has been about avg.
            Floyd v Shea is the perfect example of how they differ.

            Is Floyd Von Miller? No. But he ain’t Shea either.

            A lot of Pace’s draft picks go that way. Amos, Kwiat, etc. Solid. Nothing [outside of Howard] that really wows though.

            FA is a whole nother story.

          • SC Dave

            The most surprising thing in your post is that Bostic is still in the league.

          • And I think he’s expected to start for IND this year. Which probably says more about IND’s D than Bostic.

          • Johnnywad

            Well Fuller is 26 and was the 14th pick in the draft. And you have a relatively young left tackle that’s started since he got here give or take. They both just got new deals in the last year. So yeah, they better be amongst the best on the team. Or would you have preferred Pace let them go?

          • Actually, I was one of the few who wanted to keep Alshon at a reasonable rate, so I having nothing against Emery picks.

            Just pointing – 3-4 offseasons later, Emery arguably has 3 of the 10 best Bears still on the roster (and arguably could’ve had more like for scheme and age like Christian Jones and Young)

          • Johnnywad

            Yep. 3. And the rest are gone. In three seasons. And Pace did well to keep those 3.

            Curious because I’m too lazy to look. Are there any other Emery Bears left?

          • I was thinking about that. I think Christian Jones was the last to get any real playing time. McMannis has been here so long, he might’ve predated Emery.

            Also, Ego and Sutton weren’t horrible, but they were no longer fits in a 3-4.

            And Kadeem Carey never really got a true shot, though I doubt he’s even on a roster now.

          • Johnnywad

            Forgot about McMannis.

            Ego and Sutton kinda just washed out into JAGs or worse. Carey was just completely replaceable. Tough gig to be an NFL back without a single standout quality about you. He was just kind of there.

            I still can’t figure out Christian Jones. Definite NFL body and athleticism. He just never seemed to quite get over the hump. Mental maybe? I don’t really know. In the end, he’s also very replaceable.

          • Ego and Sutton were guys I just kept waiting to break out, but never did (kinda like Shea).

            Then of course, Emery had absolute horrible Grasu level fuck ups like Hardin and Rodriguez.

            But of course, the biggest fuck up by a mile, was hiring Trestman/Bubba Gump

            He did find a good LT though. That aint easy. If teams knew Leno would’ve turned out like this, he would’ve gone top 5 in most drafts, IMO.

            yeah, Christian Jones is an odd duck. He has all the tools to be good, but somehow isn’t. Maybe he’s just stupid.

            I mean, it’s like Hester. Hester in his prime was perhaps the most athletic player in the NFL.

            But, he sucked at WR.

          • SC Dave

            Leno was a 7th round pick, and the best value for the Bears in a long time, although one *might* argue Howard is equivalent (well, at second contract time, anyway).

          • SC Dave

            Jones < Kwiat, I think most would agree.

        • Johnnywad

          So unlike all those other NFL teams who’s best players have nary an injury.

    • willbest

      As I pointed out yesterday, it’s not entirely clear what this list is a list of exactly. The first installment was camp bodies destined to the CFL. The second installment was STers, bubble guys and PSH’s. The 3rd installment seemed to be a list of players sort of in the order of ability with maybe some perceived importance of position, but there are enough peculiarities to not make much sense of it…

      As for this list… I am pretty sure it’s the list of Bears players AD wants to be related to by blood or marriage

  • willbest
    • That’s America for you.

      If you’re black, you get shot for having a cell phone in your hand.

      If you’re brown, fleeing rape and death, you get your kids torn away from you and are imprisoned.

      If your’e rich (white and connected helps), you get 10 days of community service for essentially stealing 100K.

      • Johnnywad

        All blacks would be dead. There are something near 12M illegal immigrants here doing quite well still in possession of their kids. Seems like you’re using a broad brush here.

      • willbest

        Obviously hyperbole. And I don’t think Ms. Biden is rich, in any real sense of the word. She has probably been handed some low six figure no work job, but like her uncle I doubt there is even 8-figure wealth backing it up. She is however massively connected, and the current DA of NYC is another one of America’s princes, Cyrus Vance Jr. His father being a big time Dem player and Jimmy Carter’s Sec of State.

    • SC Dave

      The real question is the “wink-wink” from the fucking pharmacy to allow someone to charge $110,000 on a credit card! They, of course, are keeping the money, while Visa (or whatever) customers pay the bill.

      • willbest

        yeah, that didn’t make sense to me, but it looks like its got all that crazy herbal stuff and high end snake oil in addition to the more conventional pharmacy too. So maybe she was buying rhino powder to make her boyfriend more virile or something.

  • [beat box noise, big ass radio on shoulder]

    Andy breaking down the top 10
    Long will end on IR once again
    Roq’s not even technically a Bear
    Floyd runs fast to sack air
    Jackson’s still got a rod
    Arob just be better than Cam,, my god
    Gonna have to find zen
    Ooooohhmmmm 6 -n-10

    Word.

  • JAB

    Two interior lineman and one interior defensive lineman in the top ten? That won’t work out well for the bears this season.

    • Johnnywad

      Why? Isn’t building from the trenches a sound philosophy?

      • JAB

        The trenches are definitely important, but they shouldn’t make up 30% of a top ten list. Especially since long has been hurt the past 2 years and whitehair struggled last year quite a bit. Hicks is the only one who should be in the top 10 out of the three.

        • Johnnywad

          Yeah I don’t see how Long is where he is given the injury history. Been a while since he was THAT guy.

          But that said, if we had Hicks of last year, Pro Bowl Long, and Whitehair at his best, I’d have no problem with those guys in the top ten. I think it’s the best way to build a team.

          But the reality is, they’re really not there. It’s a bit of projection and optimism on ADs part.

          • JAB

            I like the optimism as a bears fan, but it’s not realistic. I really hope these guys play to a pro bowl level.

          • Every Bears PS is that hope scene from the Shawshank Redemption.

            Part of me is Red. Hope is a dangerous thing in Bears prison. It can crush a man.
            Part of me is Dufrane. Without it, what do we have? Hope can set us free…

            The struggle continues…

        • SC Dave

          Actually, they should make up 80% of the top ten list, or 90% if your D plays 4-3.

          • willbest

            Sure under your “theory” of football. If we were to consult Irish, 4 of the top 10 better be RBs

          • And all have to be top 5 picks.

          • JAB

            Offensive tackles and outside linebackers in a 3-4 defense should place higher than guards and defensive ends.

          • I would’ve put Leno in the top 10. I think he goes under rated. He’s been durable as fuck, and has been at the very least serviceable (I would argue good. I can’t recall any elite pass rusher owning him)

            I would probably take Roq out because he hasn’t played a down.

            It can also be weighted. If Roq isn’t there, Kwiat can step in.

            If Leno goes, Trub better warm up his hammys cuz he’s gonna be running a lot.

            Can’t argue about OLB Rush. YUGE hole that will prevent this D from winning some games.

        • SC Dave

          AD hedged his bets.. “if he (Long) returns to form…”, etc.

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