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Weekend Expectations Poll: Pre-Combine/Free Agency

| February 23rd, 2018

Many of you are probably thinking, “This poll is just a way to take up space for the day.” And you’re right. Partly. But this is going to one of four such polls put up in this space prior to kicking off the 2018 campaign. Today. After the first wave of free agency. After the draft. After the preseason. Let’s see how fan enthusiasm changes over the course of the off-season.

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  • SC Dave

    Okay, I’ll play. I chose 9-7, but I *am* an optimist.

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      I thought the same at the end of the season and think the same know.

      With holes all over the place but thinking they can be addressed to achieve slightly above a mediocre record next season and making the playoffs the following season.

      Overlooking O-line, wide receiver, secondary, and pass rush….we need a f***ing KICKER.

      • Big Mike

        I bet they field a 53 man roster that plugs all those holes. 🙂

    • leftcoastdave

      That was my pick as well. And yes, I too am an optimist. If they hit it out of the park in FA it will be yet another matter, esp if that D is the focus IMHO.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis
    • BearDown100393

      I want him in my kids school.

      • Sactowns#1

        Why would the FBI be in a school? I dont even want cops in my kids school.

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  • KentuckyBearsFan

    An old curmudgeon journalist looking at past culture and his take on the prevalence of American school shootings.

    Fred Reed. “Kids: Then and Now.”
    https://fredoneverything.org/kids-then-and-now/

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Yep life was so good back then. {sarcasm}

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

        Late seventies/early eighties. That’s where it was at man.

        • willbest

          70s and 80s were the glory days of serial killers.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            I wonder if that’s actually a thing of the past or if they’re just better at it nowadays.

          • willbest

            The police got the DNA tool in the 90s. I suspect that has had a solid deterrent effect. There are also more cameras all over the place. Nearly everybody has a GPS device on them that the police can pull up data on, etc.

            If you want to rack up the body count these days mass shooting in a target rich environment, truck, or if you have some skill, fly a plane into a mountain like that one guy in Europe did.

            Then again maybe 2 decades of CSI, Dexter, L&O, etc have trained better criminals.

          • willbest

            I misspoke. Not necessarily deterrent (although its a possibility), but that we can catch them before they get too far along.

          • Sactowns#1

            Experts say social media and an ever more interconnected society have been the biggest deterrents.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            I wonder if the virtual reality provided by the Internet, and all the crazy shit that can be found on it, provides enough of an outlet for some “would be” serial killers these days. Perhaps they can satisfy that bizarre itch without actually harming people.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis
      • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)
    • willbest

      I know journalist doesn’t mean what it used to but even by the much more broad definition that gets used to day to include whatever the hell CNN is advocating for these days calling Fred a journalist is a bit of a stretch. Incidentally, this isn’t the first time Fred has waxed nostalgic about the good ole days of segregation.

      He is however right about the current school system sucking donkey balls, especially for boys. They wouldn’t need to put 1 in 11 boys on speed if they would stop pretending that every kid is the same and design things accordingly.

      Some other columnist I read recently had some rather intriguing stats about US education. Apparently there are half as many high schools as there were 100 years ago, and there are 3 times the number of students now. So a high school is on average 6 times as large as it was 100 years ago.

      What that does when you think about it is removes a lot of parental oversight. You end up with a lot more bureaucracy, and one thing the bureaucracy loves is uniformity.

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        My high school in the 1990s was maybe 1100 students. It must be nuts in big city schools. The number of non-teaching staff has exploded the last two generations.

        Mine was probably 95%+ homogenous by race, maybe 70% homogeneous by class (middle).

        The gender dynamic he describes in his past was similar (to some extent) in rural Kentucky in the 1990s. Or it seemed that way publicly as far as dating.

        It was a dry county. Restaurants could not even serve beer or wine. Someone would have had to drive maybe 30 miles or more to another county for alcohol.

        Religion was rarely mentioned in the schooling system as a topic. Maybe there was a moment of silence if someone died with the announcement over the intercom (this was rare). Maybe a prayer for whoever knew the departed outside in the morning.

        There was a prayer huddle by players before whatever athletic games. For soccer games, this included everyone but me but no one cared since it wasn’t a protest or anything….it would have felt out of place since I didn’t go to local church.

        No one – kids or adults – really mentioned religion or God in any other manner at school.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          wow – I thought 1100 students was a big school. There were less than 350 students in my high school.

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            In hindsight,1000 is way too big.

        • willbest

          Mine was upper middle class. 85% white, about 10% Asian, 4% hispanic, 1% black. There were ~2500 students at the time. 812 in my graduating class. When we lined up for graduation, I literallly met 4 people in my row for the first time.

          I think we had a moment of silence or two but I don’t recall what for. There was a Bible club, and I think in my last year they emptied an office for a couple Muslim students to use as a pray room. The most political thing in that school was the OJ Simpson trial. I remember heading into the cafeteria for lunch and seeing a large group of people huddled around something which turned out to be a radio. And then when the news broke about half of them cheered and the other half walked away with “unreal” expressions.

          The school had a lot of cliques that didn’t really interact. There weren’t any jocks beating up nerds or whatever. And they weren’t exclusive. Most people were in a couple. You just didn’t socialize with two groups at the same time.

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            I heard what sounded like cheering but was really astonishment at the O.J. verdict in the next classroom over that was watching it on TV.

            My classroom was not watching it.

        • CanadaBear

          There were 1,000 kids in my HS but it was a catholic school so the dynamic was much different. No guns, of course, but the nuns and priests would whack you at any time. Needless to say, god got mentioned a lot.

      • Sactowns#1

        When people refuse to pay taxes (baby boomers) this is what happens.

        • SC Dave

          When left-wing ivory tower Washington bureaucrats make decisions about curricula, this is what happens.

          • willbest

            He was talking about the reduction of high schools I presume. Fewer larger buildings are cheaper than many smaller ones.

          • Sactowns#1

            Thats a bingo.

  • SC Dave
  • SC Dave
    • BenderMcLugh

      Gary Fencik is my most-underrated. He was really really good

      • SC Dave

        It’s really pretty amazing how many *really good* players were on that defense. It was almost unfair.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    I thought this was pretty good. NSFW

    http://topoftheboobs.tumblr.com/

    • John F

      Now this is the kind of post that I can fully support!

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

        Better bring some tools. And some scaffolding.

        • willbest

          They still got their gravity defying luster, though not for much longer.

    • SC Dave

      Tragically, the “Damn!” pair ruined by an obsession of its owner to ruin her body with graffiti.

  • CaponeBot 1.0

    It’s a little hard to get excited to be honest. Dumping Sitton and Long so banged up is discouraging.
    WR is kind of a mess. Kendall Wright is the only true WR we have.
    Anthony Thomas is sufficient at RB I guess.

    Ugh , that’s all I have, don’t care enough to keep going. Off to work.

    • Kenny Dennis

      Chug a chug chug on the A-Train
      New coach gonna make it rain
      150 proof don’t feel no pain
      The legacy of Halas is big fat stain

      • CaponeBot 1.0

        Troof

    • BearDown100393

      Pace is a genius and will fix everything.

      11-5 & playoffs

  • Big Mike

    I’m saying 8-8. I believe that by the time the season starts I’ll be at 10+. Because I trust Pace.

  • BenderMcLugh

    no one has said this yet????

    18-0 baby!

    • SC Dave

      (M)HBP did it yesterday.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      SMH. Pay attention.

      • BenderMcLugh

        I meant THIS thread hehehe

    • leftcoastdave

      Beat me to it again.

  • CanadaBear

    I went with 8-8. That’s a leap of faith at this point!

    • AlbertInTucson

      I went 6 to 7.

      • CanadaBear

        If the injury gods give the Bears a break (they’re due) I think they could even be over .500 but it’s a long way til Sept.

  • willbest

    A prediction before I even know how the NFCN FA is going to shake out?

    =RANDBETWEEN(3,12) returns… 10

    oh wow, excel thinks the bears are going to have a shot at the playoffs this year.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      That’s enough proof for me. I am betting my life savings.

  • BearDown100393

    11-5 & playoffs

    • AlbertInTucson

      I would so love that but can ‘tsign on for it at this point in time.

  • John Lynch

    I think 8-8 is very reasonable if you counter in the defense staying relatively the same, but the offense taking a decent step forward with Trubisky’s development as well as Nagy’s play calling/offense scheme.

  • That Guy

    Alshon got paid, now he’s gonna rest. We’ll see if he starts the 2018 season on the PUP list.

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22530837/philadelphia-eagles-receiver-alshon-jeffery-surgery-repair-torn-rotator-cuff

    • BearDown100393

      You would not survive the pain he endured to play in that SB injured.

      • That Guy

        I have two Purple Hearts, and one of them required a 4 hour surgery and 6 months of inpatient rehab (luckily I just limp and won’t need the cane until I get older), so go right on and fuck off.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          Well sure. If you want to count that stuff. But aside from that………..

      • That Guy

        My first PH was for breaking my ankle jumping into Marjah. We were advance, and I was in the field for 2 days, humping and fighting, on that broken ankle before we could evac wounded.

        It’s just me, but I’d say being in combat for 2 days on a broken ankle is worse than the pain of a torn rotator cuff for a few hours. Especially as I wasn’t on any painkillers, and it’s pretty common practice to either numb pro players’ injuries with a topical, or inject them with toradol to get them through games.

      • That Guy

        Oh, and I never said Alshon did anything wrong. I just pointed out that he’s got 6+ months of recovery in front of him, after signing a big extension.

        I didn’t even point out how interesting it was that he was injured all season long, and signed that extension while injured. If he knew he was significantly injured and the Eagles didn’t, well, IANAL, but I wonder what legal recourse the Eagles have if he does miss any of the 2018 season?

        And you want to go on about someone playing through pain? Read about Jason Taylor. Not only did the dude have to get regular injections before games for his torn plantar fascia, but after one game he almost lost his leg due to compartment syndrome.

        https://www.npr.org/2014/08/07/336940189/for-nfls-jason-taylor-playing-through-pain-was-part-of-the-game

      • DaCoaches Mustache

        That guy just owned you.

        • BearDown100393

          And that guy just bullsh*tted you.

          • leftcoastdave

            I’d say that was a bitch slap.

          • BearDown100393

            You would know.

          • leftcoastdave

            Yep. Seen a few of them and that was certainly one of them.

          • SC Dave

            Thumbs up all the way. Can only imagine the sniveling being done by This user is blocked at this point.

          • leftcoastdave

            He must have missed out on that “if you don’t have something nice to say, don’t say anything at all” from his mommy and daddy.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Not possible since he doesn’t register.

      • AlbertInTucson

        True.

  • 505Bears

    And if my aunt had balls, she’d be my uncle….

  • 505Bears
    • Sactowns#1

      Oh no! Does this mean he’s now part of “the deep state”? Where are our tinfoil hat fellows to weigh in?

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        I congratulated him and waved to him through my webcam on my laptop. I know they are watching…

        • SC Dave

          They can see through the electrical tape you have over the lens too, of course.

      • leftcoastdave

        Is it being a tinfoil hat guy to be concerned that Comey and his gang used a “dossier” created by a foreign agent from Russian sources to get a FISA warrant without telling the judge that it was Hillary who paid for the dirt?
        Or is that the legitimate concern over the political weaponization of a Federal agency which is supposed to be above politics and stay out of election meddling on behalf of the party in power?
        Inquiring minds want to know.

        • Sactowns#1

          yup, it’s all one big conspiracy planned by the Clintons. Forget the fact that everyone knows the Russians paid off numerous trump cabinet members etc. Also, it really doesn’t matter where the evidence came from as long as the info is valid. But tinfoil away and dont let the lizard people get you.

          • willbest

            But it isn’t valid. The text messages ripped from the phone are. And I am sure you agree they demand further investigation.

          • Sactowns#1

            I havent really payed much attention to that. I trust the men and women charged with safeguarding our country and our constitution.

          • willbest

            So if Jeff Sessions decided to prosecute Comey, Peter Strzok, Andrew McCabe, Peter Ohr, and Lisa Page. You will have the utmost confidence in his decisions to proceed?

          • willbest

            excuse me Bruce ohr

          • leftcoastdave

            You mean the FBI dude whose wife worked for Fusion GPS on the Steele memo and failed to disclose it? That Bruce Ohr? The guy’s wife was indirectly on Hillary’s pay roll for the “dossier” used to get FISA warrants?

          • Sactowns#1

            Perhaps. I would need more information but I’m sure if everyone in the justice department is behind it then they’ve done their due diligence.

          • SC Dave

            You only ever see one side. The *perfect* pawn.

          • leftcoastdave

            The facts are as written above. What “everybody knows” perhaps only applies to those you know who have not a clue.
            You can have your opinions, but not your own facts. They exist independent of opinion and speculation.

    • That Guy

      That’s interesting. Typically the FBI isn’t going to hire someone–especially someone that old–without prior LE experience, or technical knowledge (think foreign language skill, CPA, JD, computer programming, etc.), or some specialized skill-set.

      In other words, you don’t just randomly apply to the FBI and become and agent, especially at age 37.

      I want this to be true, because Peanut is one of my favorite Bears, but something doesn’t feel right.

      • willbest

        36 years old is the cutoff for FBI. If you will note, he turned 37 today. So just under the wire. And its not all forensic accounting, and computer security etc. They have a PR department. They need recruiters. They want people capable of talking to a wide variety of informants.

        • That Guy

          He went through training and the rumor is “agent.” That’s not PR or recruiting.

          I’m not saying it’s not possible. It’s just weird.

          My wife’s youngest sister got on with the Bureau doing intel work (she got her BA in Mandarin), and after a few years moved to the recruiting gig. She travels all around to universities and talks up the job for the kids. She’s a pretty woman, so she attracts a lot of attention, but she won’t talk to potential recruits unless they check certain boxes, like foreign language skills, military experience, or they’re getting their degree in certain technical fields (like accounting, among others).

  • DaCoaches Mustache

    With an average QB performance, I think they are an 8-8 team. If #10 is bad they’ll win 5-6, if he’s good they’ll win 10-11. No pressure, Mitchy!

  • chitownproud85

    8-8. I think 3 more wins is a reasonable expectation for a team that still has plenty of problems. Defense should still play well, and Biscuit will be better, leading a few close L’s into the close W territory, and boom, we are .500. Kool aid man just left my house though. Ask again in a few months.

    • SC Dave

      With you, unless Nagy figure out Howard, and we win 10 or 12. Jordan could be worth 2 or 3 wins if they get it right

  • willbest
    • BearDown100393

      “Former”…. do the Masons excommunicado?

      • willbest

        like I said, I need our resident experts to comment on this.

      • That would be ironic, eh?

        Masons, sworn enemies of the Catholic Church, excommunicating.

    • SC Dave

      Didn’t read past that mfing priceless title… cm’on IrishTrac

    • Irish Sweetness

      ‘Things just got a little loose, I was out of it,’ Mr Langford told 7 News. He apologised to ‘all the righteous Freemasons everywhere’.

      He just got a little loose, see, and he apologised to the Freemasons. It’s all good.

  • willbest

    “As expected, #Bears were not awarded any compensatory draft picks. Last time they received any was 2009.” – Biggsy

    damn. expected. but damn.

  • Sactowns#1
    • willbest

      Probably not a good idea after 1 police department completely shit the bed and everybody else is making sure they aren’t as disgraceful as the Broward county sheriff’s department.

      • leftcoastdave

        The sad thing about depression/anxiety is many of the psych meds suppress normal inhibitions. That leads to going postal.

    • BearDown100393

      Post traumatized

  • willbest

    Rams got Marcus Peters from Chiefs… unless it was a 1st, I don’t see how it wouldn’t be worth it.

    • ButtonShoes

      What did the Rams have to give up?

      • willbest

        we don’t know yet

      • leftcoastdave

        Too much.

    • Peters has major character flags. That’s why he dropped in the draft, and likely why the Chiefs traded him.

      But, Wade is the best DC and is used to dealing with crazy secondary dudes from his Donk tenure, so If anyone can keep him in line, it’s him

  • AlbertInTucson
    • CanadaBear

      I read a cry baby piece from the same site about poor, poor Marcus. Please. He had trouble with the coaches in college and he was a powder keg in KC. It’s not like Andy Reid is some unreasonable task master.

  • ButtonShoes

    No compensation picks for the Bears. Again. Jesus.

    • CanadaBear

      Last time they got one was 2009.

      • ButtonShoes

        From what I’m reading about compensation picks and how they get awarded (which is byzantine), it sure seems like not getting them is, in part, a sign of poor drafting and player development.

        • leftcoastdave

          Yes and no. In this case, yes before Pace got here and no because Pace had to clean house and rebuild the entire team. By that I mean, who is left from when he came in? When that happens, you do not have any “talent” leaving for which you might get a comp pick. Rather, you are hiring in FA to plug all the holes in the roster to put a competitive team on the field.
          That happened best on the D which is close to being top five. The O has a great core now and we shall see what happens in FA and the draft. But don’t expect any comp picks for at least two years.

          • SC Dave

            You’re kidding, right?

            What “great core” on offense could you *possibly* be referring to? We have TWO proven players on O, and one is probably done with an ankle injury that has not healed.

            We have Jordan Howard and (dare I say) Leno. Maybe you could count Cody Whitehair.

            Long looks done, they just fired Sitton, and the offense has zero other proven good players. Yeah, Cohen looks okay, and Trubisky may at least be a JAG. Shaheen – who knows?

            But to call a solid core on the Bears offense is comical.

            Are you the new #16?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Not to be a negative Nancy but the O is anyone’s guess right now, and not to harp on the WCO thing, but even IF we get top new receivers, it’ll take a couple of years before that thing is humming.

          • leftcoastdave

            I do not share your view of the O line nor what it will take to be stellar. I think Kyle Long will return to form and that Jordan Morgan will step in at the other position with Kush. And that is before looking at potentially getting Zach Fulton out of KC at C or someone else in FA who is younger and will cost less than Sitton.
            Leno and Massie have been solid and the whole line dealt with an 8 man box most of the year.

            And what is this “new #16” thing. I missed out on that one.
            I’m also getting stiff competition in the rose colored glasses department from Bender.

          • CanadaBear

            There was a poster on here that was the self titled #1 Bears fan. He was a bit of a wildcard and others started needling him about being the 16th best Bears fan (I have no idea how it started but it got pretty funny).

    • leftcoastdave

      It is a matter of who you lose to FA vs who you pick up.
      Don’t expect any for next year either.

      • willbest

        If fuller and prince walk and we don’t sign some A posters or pay someone like glennon we could get one

        • leftcoastdave

          I don’t think it is likely that who we sign will not outweigh who we lose as far as the comp. pick equation goes. At least I hope not, given the hopes for FA signings and keeping Fuller and Amukamara. Other than those two guys, I don’t see comp coming from any others.

    • Didn’t Pace spend the most in FAs last season?
      Let that sink in.

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        Went to the park to get the scoop
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  • leftcoastdave

    Rashaan Melvin chatter for CB. Fits the mold and could be a good piece to add.

    https://sportsmockery.com/2018/02/new-name-emerges-chicago-bears-free-agency-plans/

    • Lemme ask you a question, LC.

      Would you rather Pace sign a guy like Melvin, or resign Fuller or Prince?

  • leftcoastdave

    Another name being touted, a $12m OLB Robert Quinn. I like this on the surface.

    https://dawindycity.com/2018/02/24/robert-quinn-chicago-bears-great-fit/

    • That would def be a name to monitor.
      His production has not been there as of late, nor his health apparently.

      But he’s got the potential and is only 27. Curious to see how much he goes for on the market.

      I also think he’s got scheme versatility.

      He can be an OLB opposite Floyd (though one the knocks on Quinn is he isn’t a great run defender), but he can also line up as RDE on obvious passing downs

  • BerwynBomber
    • SC Dave

      Why shouldn’t they? The only missed the SB because the zebras favored the fucking Patriots.

      • BerwynBomber

        Bortles is very, very dicey. That said, JAX will be playing less guaranteed money than what we are paying Bisky on a rookie deal.

        So seems like a win/win. Bortles is able to extend his prove-it opportunity and JAX can pursue a Plan B given the money.

        • leftcoastdave

          You made me scratch my head over the comparison with Biscuit’s contract but it is true. Biscuit gets $6,598,281 this year but his total contract will be $29,032,436 over four years.

          “The deal is for $54 million and could be worth up to $66.5 million with incentives, a source told ESPN’s Adam Schefter. The deal also includes $26.5 million in guaranteed money, according to the source.”

          • BerwynBomber

            Yup. Always look at the guaranteed money first. It might not tell the whole contractual story but it will tell the central part of it.

      • Once the Pats started blitzing Bortles, he TOTALLY shit the bed.
        When the Jag’s D got that big strip off Lewis near midfield to change momentum and possibly win the game, Bortles went 3 and out.

        Need a bit more from the QB than that.

        That being said, he’s structured in such a way that they can invest in another Qb if they want to.

        To his credit, he seemed to cut down on the TOs this yr.

        But that was with a heavy dose of RB.

        And top 3 D is not easily repeatable.

        I think only SEA has remained consistently dominant on D. Every other team seems to get stripped of talent after a few yrs.

        • AlbertInTucson

          That game is ALL on Doug Marrone. Once the Jags got ahead, he went turtle .

          • But he turtled the whole season, Al.

            That was their MO. The reason for that is because they could never trust Bortles not to turn it over.

            It’s like that yr Gase turned Cutler into Dalton.

            It was frustrating, but the alternative was, well, Cutler.

            Marrone could’ve “unleashed” Bortles, but more often than not, that means TOs.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Bortles played a good game. 290, a TD and ZERO turnovers.

            Do I want him? Probably not but, it’s not his fault Marrone spent the 4th quarter calling plays from tell-tale formations that played into the strength of the Patriot defense.

            We’re just gonna disagree on this one.

  • leftcoastdave

    The LA Rams have $34m tied up in three linebackers.

    Damn. And I though 16m tied up in two Gs was steep.

    They might cut Quinn and their cheap OLB Connor Barwin is 31 and got $3.5 last year and is now a UFA. Maybe we trade them McPhee for Quinn plus a 3rd or 4th.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Barwin is solid.

      • SC Dave

        Damnit… couldn’t the right clip, but here is a Barwin thing

    • CanadaBear

      Why would anyone trade for McPhee?

      • leftcoastdave

        To offload Quinn’s HUGE contract and have him as a backup?
        But you are right, even then not enough cap savings for them.

        • CanadaBear

          Any time there is a good chance a team is gonna cut someone, ain’t nobody trading for them to take on the contract that got them released.

          • leftcoastdave

            Unless, like the Browns, you do it to get more draft capital while in this case filling a position of need. What did they eat with Houston trade? Plenty of money. $16m to get a next year 2nd.
            Now I don’t think that was any great move for Cleveland, but the concept is there.

          • CanadaBear

            Cleveland … as Eric Idle would say … “Say no more”

          • leftcoastdave

            How about taking on Dez Bryant’s $16m which would save the Cowboys $8m dead money. The Cowboys have ten draft picks. Should the team take on that contract if they also get a three and two fours?

          • CanadaBear

            I wouldn’t touch Dez. Trending the wrong way and not worth all the maintenance. One of the reasons Fox was hired was to clean up the locker room. No need to make a mess again.

      • Agreed. Nobody, esp the Rams who rely on speed, is gonna trade for McPhee.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Can we trade him to Canada?

          • CanadaBear

            How’s his record? That’s always a concern. After that, I’m guessing he would rather sit at home than make what they do in the CFL.

    • Pace has only signed one FA over 30, right? (Sitton)

      I predict he won’t deviate much from his MO.

  • BearDown100393

    Geno Smith is one stupid SOB.

    • That Guy

      Well, he did go to West Virginia. I think the requirementsfor getting admitted there is actually fucking one of your cousins. Or being the child of two cousins.

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      Flat Earth is just an Illuminati psyop to distract from the real truth: TIME CUBE.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Cube

      Do your own research.

  • leftcoastdave

    Arizona just became a more likely suitor for a trade up, getting three compensatory picks.
    Swapping for their 15 for a second and third would be sweet.

    https://www.revengeofthebirds.com/2018/2/25/17049742/arizona-cardinals-2018-nfl-draft-picks

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      I am glad the NFL now allows teams to trade compensatory picks.

  • Market for QBs be cray-cray. For those keeping score, Jimmy G $27M. Trub $7M.

    Flacco is somehow making more than Vadgers.

    Dak cost 600K.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/24/the-2018-starting-quarterbacks-ranked-by-apy/

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      and everyone that is not on a rookie deal is making more than Brady

      • I give credit to Brady for always taking less than market value.
        He really seems to be winning obsessed. I think his competitiveness is like Kobe or Jordan.

        Think that’s a big reason for the culture they have over there. When the GOAT is keeping his $ demands reasonable, it’s hard for a teammate to make waves.

        A billionaire model wife helps.

        • BerwynBomber

          Also helps when you know the money you leave on the table will be used wisely by the team.

          A very unique situation in NE.

        • CanadaBear

          My guess is he and Kraft have a handshake deal to make up the difference.

          • It’s also smart long term. He’ll be starring in New England commercials when he’s 90.

            When you become a hired gun like Revis or even Peppers, it hurts your long term marketing allure since you really have no market.

          • CanadaBear

            Pep has no personality that I can tell and Revis has too much for most advertisers. Brady is a marketers dream.

      • BerwynBomber

        Ahhh to have a wife who makes $40M a year.

        • SC Dave

          Is that all? She must have had a bad season.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            She is getting old.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I’ll just take the 40M!

  • Did the polls close? Don’t see the results. Which was the most popular?

    Would’ve voted for 6 wins as of right now

    (working on the premise that Pace will have an avg FA and good draft, while assuming the usual Bears INJs and an incremental – not Wentzish – Trub progression)

    .

    • BerwynBomber

      Six wins? Oooof …

      • That’s my realistic expectation if Pace stays on par as well as the INJs.
        That schedule and our division is no cake walk.

        If Pace has a great FA and draft, then I’ll be drinking more of the coolaid.

        The wildcard of course is Nagy. No one really knows if he’ll be any good and squeeze the most out of Trub.

        On the flip side, no one can be worse than Fox, and Bears were really close in beating many teams.

        • BerwynBomber

          Agreed. But damn. If six wins amounts to the high water mark for the Pace regime after four years that will be asking a whole lot of patience from the faithful.

          Only nit might be the NFC as non-cake walk. I think there are huge question marks surrounding all three of our rivals.

          Rodgers is 35 coming off a major injury to his throwing shoulder and GB still has McCarthy and horrendous CBs.

          Lions just fired their most successful HC in fifty years and replaced him with a young coordinator from a coaching tree that is far from Holmgrenian.

          MIN is, by far, the surest thing if only because of Zimmer, their D and O skill position talent. But they are still a mystery regarding their long-term QB plan.

          Wouldn’t shock me if 9-7 wins the NFCN in ’18.

          • The thing is, looking at it objectively, the Bears have MUCH bigger question marks.

            We all know the Puke is a 1 man show. But counting on Vadgers to get old and inj, well, that’s not much of a strategy.

            If he plays do we expect Trub can go toe-to-toe with him in an entirely new system with who knows at WR?

            Lions did fire a good coach. And true, no one really knows what Patricia will be. But neither do we know what Nagy will be, and while the Holmgren tree is more proven, that doesn’t exactly translate (see Brad Childress).

            The Lions also have way more talent, and a franchise QB.

            Bears still do not know if they have the right coach or a franchise QB, much less the supporting cast.

            Min is self explanatory.

            Like I said before, Pace is going to have a GREAT off-season to make up for the last 3 yrs of underachievement. OR, Nagy could be the next Pederson and turn lemons into lemonade

            And IMO the Bears are still missing the most vital ingredient for winning:

            a winning mentality.

            That has to be instilled first, then the winning will commence.

          • SC Dave

            The biggest wildcard is, of course, Vadgers. If he’s back, the Packers win the division, again. Because he makes up for five starters, and gives his team five extra wins, in a way that nobody else in the division can dream of doing.

            The fucking bastard.

          • Yeah, we’re like Jet fans waiting for Brady to fall apart.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Hence Edmunds is key for us. Floyd and Edmunds running after Vadgers with a target on his vagina. That’s what I want.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Probably true, as long as they keep him upright which, they haven’t been doing a very good job of recently.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I’m feeling more and more it was a mistake to extend him. Why does he deserve more than three years? He ha provided a worse product than was in place before he arrived. In any measurable way, Pace has failed.

        • leftcoastdave

          It’s Koolaid, Butch, get it right!

          And after another slurp, I think you are too pessimistic. Sure, Pace was very conservative in FA with few exceptions. Now he has Nagy there with a new scheme and you have to think he will be listening to him. Similarly, I think he gave a nod to Fangio along the lines of promises to build a monster D.

          It’s no longer about the churn and there is now a very good core to build upon.

          I voted 9-6.

          • BearDown100393

            Did the season shorten?

          • I’ll get more excited after I see what Pace does in FA.

            No one was excited with it last yr even in real time, and time has proven our initial non-koolaid reax was correct.

            Dumping Sitton already makes him down on the count in my book. What’s the point of plugging leaks when you’re stabbing new ones into the boat?

            That being said, if he signs a younger studly OG, or if Kush pans out, then Pace cutting Sitton won’t be a negative (IF).

            Pace could only do so much, esp given his reluctant nature.

            We need another OLB because he signed McPhee who couldn’t handle a full workload like Pace hoped.

            We need a WR because he failed to sign Alshon (don’t care for excuses) and drafted White (a bust).

            We now need an OG cuz he cut Sitton.

            Likely need another TE because Sims looks like a bust.

            Might need two CBs cuz he may let both Fuller and Prince walk.

            And that’s not even counting other positions like ILB (Freeman, another Pace failure), K, P, RDE, NT…

            Lot of holes that didn’t need to be there and will be difficult to patch up in one off-season unless Pace becomes a maniac and goes all-in this offseason.

          • SC Dave

            I won’t blame Pace for Freeman, but the rest is all good IMO.

          • I dunno. I get the sense that ppl in the NFL are more privy to ‘rumors’ about certain players being juicers or being crazy/lazy, and certainly GMs should do their due diligence into such rumors.

            I get that sometimes GMs aren’t in the know (Sam Hurd), but I think they have a clue when it comes to juicing.

            Either way, as the saying goes, better lucky than good, and Pace has proven he is both bad and unlucky in FA.

          • leftcoastdave

            I give him the benefit of the doubt because of the shape of the roster he was hiring for. a) Nobody wanted to come to Chicago and b) Ownership did not want to spend the money augmenting what little talent there was with expensive FA signings.
            This is the year Pace needs to show up and spend money on good talent while cutting more deadwood like Sims and McPhee.

        • SC Dave

          Oh yes, they can be worse than Fox.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Mine too. Why would we expect more after having been so bad?

          Uncertainty at most positions, and although most consider RB set, I don’t. I’d rather have a replacement for Jordan than a replacement for Tarik.

          Hopes for the draft:

          Round 1:

          Nelson (Edmunds if Nelson is gone, won’t cry if they draft Edmunds with Nelson on the board).

          Round 2: Any 6’5 receiver … Auden Tate will do.

          Round 4: A Jordan replacement, or an OLB if we didn’t draft one in the first.

          Round 5: A Jordan replacement.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

      Wow. A one game bump after getting rid of Fox and Trubisky in his second season? Times is hard.

  • Woman hasn’t smiled in 40 yrs to avoid wrinkles.

    https://unusual-stories.com/tess-christian/

    • BerwynBomber

      Reminds me of the old Mick Jagger reply when asked about his miles deep, heavily crevassed, craggy face.

      Laugh lines.

    • BearDown100393

      Or an O face

  • leftcoastdave

    My favorite WR draft target in the 4th if he is available is Alan Lazard. 6’5″, Iowa State.

    https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2018/02/25/2018-nfl-draft-iowa-states-allen-lazard-is-intriguing-day-3-wr-prospect-for-bears/

    • Irish Sweetness

      I like the ‘5 part.

      • That Guy

        I’ll BET you like the 5-inch part.

        (Or is 5 inches too much for a Thai ladyboy?)

    • SC Dave

      Why would Pace like a guy with a huge catch radius and ability to win in the end zone? He had one, and let him leave.

      • Shhh. We’re not supposed to talk about that lest you be deemed a “hater”.

        1984 twist, “Pace didn’t let him walk, Alshon left”

        “Why did Alshon want to leave?”

        “So, how about them Cubbies…”

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Let me see if I am understanding this properly. You fault Pace for signing Freeman because you suspect he was a known “juicer”, yet you also fault Pace for letting AJ, a KNOWN juicer, leave. And you wonder why some may deem you as a “hater”.

          • Did you play football in HS or college?

            Everyone pretty much knows who is juicing and who is not. No matter how much a player tries to hide it (and many don’t try all that hard, and it’s usu a group, so I’m sure Freeman wasn’t just doing it alone). The trainers and coaches know too, but they usu have a don’t ask don’t tell policy.

            I’m guessing that stuff leaks out from the locker room on up. Don’t think it’s that much of a secret.

            Now, I don’t know if the NFL dynamic is the same and if it reaches the GM, but I would wager a (good) GM knows a lot about any prospective GM.

            What I would think happened is Pace kinda knew about it before hand. But Freeman was cheap and fitted a desperate need.

            So he took the chance.

            Snake eyes.

            Just like with McPhee.

            McPhee was rumored to have a bum knee, which is why the Ravens had him on a snap count of 600ish.

            Pace thought about it, and took another gamble.

            Snake eyes again.

            I also don’t hate all that is Pace. Like I said, he’s avg, but no one can argue his FAs are stellar.

            All anyone can do is give excuses as to why they’ve been so horrible from “no one wants to be on the Bears” to “He’s been saving all his FA talent for post Fox”…

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            “I’m sure Freeman wasn’t just doing it alone” Correct. He was doing it with AJ. Yet, again, you are blaming Pace for signing Freeman, saying he should have known, and also blaming Pace for not signing AJ, even though he did know. Can you have it both ways?

          • If AJ gets busted for being a repeat juicer, then Pace did the right thing in cutting him. But last I checked, AJ just helped the Eagles win a SB.

            This is a result based sport.

            It’s up to Pace to judge how players will perform going forward.

            He tends to do a decent job of this with draftees.

            With pro players, he SUCKS at it.

            For instance, Pace took a shot on McPhee hoping he could handle a full-time gig.

            He was WRONG.
            He took a shot that Glennon just needed a chance. He was WRONG.
            He figured Barth could replace Gould, or Wheaton Alshon. He was WRONG.
            Maybe he thought Freeman can stop juicing. He was WRONG.

            All FAs are gonna come with one risk or another, so I’m not risk averse. For instance, I would love to take a chance on Josh Gordon.

            But Pace’s FAs seem to fizzle more than they flash.

            He’s better at the draft. That’s just a fact by now.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I don’t know MayBe.

      • leftcoastdave

        He won’t cost 12 million?

  • Irish Sweetness

    DaBearsBlog
    @dabearsblog
    Almost done with the series and trying to pinpoint when The Leftovers went from creepily interesting to downright stupid.

    I was wondering whether or not to invest the time – sounded like a good idea and was the highest rated TV show on Metacritic. Nah?

    • SC Dave

      TV is NEVER worth the time. Unless it’s a Bears game.

      And even then…

    • A lot of TV shows jump the shark a lot quicker than they used to IMO.

      I think it’s the drive to become more fantastic, to be more over the top, to inundate with ridicules plot twists, as opposed to solid narratives and compelling characters

      • Irish Sweetness

        I tried to watch Altered Carbon – heard some good reports – looked good, like a Blade Runner show …. and it lost me half way through. At least I got through three episodes of The Counterpart.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          Check out Ozark, and Godless.

      • willbest

        compelling charters require talented actors and writers and those are harder to come by when your primary means of selecting talent is who is willing to play with your dong

    • BearDown100393

      No.

  • That Guy

    Now we can go back to not giving a shit about skiing, skating, and curling for another 4 years.

    • BearDown100393

      I never started.

    • Hey, if the winter olympics brought N and S Korea a lil closer, all good.

      headline:

      “Curling staves off nuclear Holocaust”

      Summer Olympics:

      “Ping Pong solves middle east”

      • BearDown100393

        Yeah it brought them closer, realizing a unification could powerplay over both China and the US.

        • willbest

          NK is worse than a shithole. There are people in Somalia thankful they aren’t in NK. Reunification would set South Korea back three decades and deal a massive blow to the US who would almost certainly get kicked off the peninsula as a result. Emperor Xi (they are pushing to remove term limits on his presidency) would be privately laughing his ass off over his good fortune while publicly talking about the potential threat creates to use it as a pretext to just do whatever he wants

        • KentuckyBearsFan

          South Korea has an educated population, very high life expectancy, high per capita income (especially compared to China).

          North Korea has a shit ton of coal,minerals, and very valuable rare earth metals. And surprisingly a very high literacy rate which even if exaggerated and them reading mostly crap (how worse than the drivel Americans read as a whole if at all?) suggests a lot of potential.

          A lot of NK being a starving shithole has to do with their limited (if any) access to modern fertilizers because of sanctions. Apparently long-range missiles are easier to make and get? Maybe their ruling class wants to keep it that way.

          And I can’t see Japan wanting a Korean reunification. They still hate each other from past wars.

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      I didn’t watch a minute of it. Hell, I haven’t turned on the TV since football season ended.

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