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Pertinent Off-Season Dates

| February 16th, 2018

Full disclosure: I rarely visit ChicagoBears.com. It used to be a vital site for post-game pressers and game highlights but there are literally dozens of better locations for both of those things now, especially the former, which now go directly from the cell phones of media members to the fans in a matter of seconds.

But in January, the site’s lead writer Larry Mayer posted a collection of pertinent off-season dates and that is something I’m constantly searching for this time of year. Here they are:

February 20: First day for clubs to designate Franchise or Transition Players.

February 27-March 5: NFL Scouting Combine, Lucas Oil Stadium, Indianapolis, Indiana.

March 6: Prior to 3 p.m. (CT), deadline for clubs to designate Franchise or Transition Players.

March 12-14: Beginning at 11 a.m. (CT) on March 7, clubs are permitted to contact, and enter into contract negotiations with the certified agents of players who will become Unrestricted Free Agents upon the expiration of their 2017 player contracts. However, a contract cannot be executed with a new club until 3 p.m. (CT), on March 14.

March 14: Prior to 3 p.m. (CT), clubs must exercise options for 2018 on all players who have option clauses in their 2017 contracts.

March 14: Prior to 3 p.m. (CT), clubs must submit qualifying offers to their Restricted Free Agents with expiring contracts to retain a Right of First Refusal/Compensation.

March 14: Prior to 3 p.m. (CT), clubs must submit a minimum salary tender to retain exclusive negotiating rights to their players with expiring 2017 contracts who have fewer than three accrued seasons of free agency credit.

March 14: Top 51 begins. All clubs must be under the 2018 salary cap prior to 3 p.m. (CT).

March 14: All 2017 player contracts will expire at 3 p.m. (CT)

March 14: The 2018 league year and free agency period begin at 3 p.m. (CT).

See the rest of the year’s dates after the jump…

March 14: The first day of the 2018 league year will end at 10:59:59 p.m. (CT), on March 14. Clubs will receive a personnel notice that will include all transactions submitted to the league office during the period between 3 p.m. and 10:59:59 p.m. (CT) on March 14.

March 14: Trading period for 2018 begins at 3 p.m. (CT) after expiration of all 2017 contracts.

March 25-28: Annual League Meeting, Orlando, Florida.

April 2: Teams with new head coaches can begin offseason workout programs.

April 16: Clubs with returning head coaches may begin offseason workout programs.

April 20: Deadline for Restricted Free Agents to sign offer sheets.

April 26-28: 2017 NFL Draft, AT&T Stadium, Arlington, Texas.

May 4-7 or 11-14: Clubs can hold three-day rookie minicamp.

May 8: Deadline for club to send “May 8 Tender” to unsigned UFAs.

May 14: Rookie Football Development Programs begin

May 17-20: NFLPA Rookie Premiere

May 21-23: Spring League Meeting (Atlanta, GA)

June 1: Deadline to send “June 1 Tender” to unsigned RFA who received a qualifying offer for right of first refusal only in order for such player to be subject to the CBS’s “June 15 Tender” provision.

June 2: For any player removed from the club’s roster or whose contract is assigned via waivers or trade on or after June 2, any unamortized signing bonus amounts for future years will be included fully in team salary at the start of the 2019 League Year.

June 15: Deadline for club to withdraw qualifying offer to RFA and still retain exclusive negotiating rights by substituting “June 15 Tender” of one-year contract at 110 percent of the player’s prior-year Paragraph 5 Salary (with all other terms of his prior-year contract carried forward unchanged).

Late June: Rookie Transition Program to be held at individual clubs. Attendance is mandatory for all rookies.

July 16: At 3 p.m. (CT), deadline for any club that designated a Franchise Player to sign such player to a multiyear contract or extension. After this date, the player may sign only a one- year contract with his prior club for the 2018 season, and such contract cannot be extended until after the club’s last regular season game.

Mid July: Clubs are permitted to open preseason training camp for rookies and first-year players beginning seven days prior to the club’s earliest permissible mandatory reporting date for Veteran players. Veteran players (defined as a player with at least one pension-credited season) other than quarterbacks or “injured players” (as defined in CBA Article 21, Section 6) may report to a club’s preseason training camp no earlier than 15 days prior to the club’s first scheduled preseason game or July 15, whichever is later. Veteran quarterbacks and injured players may be required to report to the club’s preseason training camp no earlier than five days immediately prior to the mandatory reporting date for all other veteran players, provided the club has already opened (or simultaneously opens) its official preseason training camp for all rookies and first-year players. A three-day acclimation period will apply to players who are on a club’s roster up to and including the mandatory veteran reporting date. Players who rejoin the roster after that date may practice (including wearing pads) and play immediately after passing a physical.

July 23: Signing period ends for Unrestricted Free Agents to whom a “May 8 Tender” was made by prior club. After this date and until 3 p.m. (CT), on the Tuesday following the 10th weekend of the regular season, prior club has exclusive negotiating rights. * or the first scheduled day of the first NFL training camp, whichever is later.

July 23: Signing period ends for Transition Players with outstanding tenders. After this date and until 3 p.m. (CT) time, on the Tuesday following the 10th weekend of the regular season, Prior Club has exclusive negotiating rights.

August 2: Hall of Fame Game, Canton, Ohio.

August 2-5: Hall of Fame Weekend, Canton, Ohio

August 7: Deadline for players under contract to report to their clubs to earn an accrued season for free agency. If a drafted rookie has not signed with his club by this date, he cannot be traded to any other club in 2018, and may sign a player contract only with the drafting club until the day of the Draft in the 2019 League Year.

February 3, 2019: Bears win Super Bowl 53.

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  • Irish Sweetness

    I’m surprised there’s not more interest on the board in Barkley. There seems to be some complacency that we have a solid RB roster. It’s a fine roster as long as there are no injuries, which disqualifies it from having any depth.

    Scenario in mind: Jordan goes down early season.

    Hypothesis: The offense is done for the season.

    Case: Neither Cohen nor Cunningham can do what Jordan does, no run game can ever be established without a short-yardage bruiser when bruising is called for.

    We must also not stand pat on JH. He is a one-dimensional back and they’re hard to accommodate in the NFL. If there is a Le’Veon Bell out there, we need to be ready to make Jordan feel uncomfortable.

    So if we’re not making a move on Barkley, pick a guy that can go in for Jordan.

    http://walterfootball.com/draft2018RB.php

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    • DaBearsBlog

      They’ll have depth for Jordan. They won’t be picking that in the first round.

      • Irish Sweetness

        So Cunningham gets the boot?
        (shrugs)

        So be it.

    • SC Dave

      We better not be making a move on Barkley.

      For what it’s worth, check the rank of the Bears oline here. We need OL waaay more than RB.
      http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

      Though I agree that depth is important. I hear Matt Forte is looking for a job (kidding!)

      I agree with Jeff that Panagy will find someone to back up Howard.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Overall – I think we need to be drafting a stud OL guy, for sure.

    • That Guy

      Barkley might be a great talent, Irish, but a back-up/replacement for Howard is nowhere near as big a need as OLB, ILB, OL or WR.

      • Irish Sweetness

        This is true.

        And like Dave said, build the OL. But that takes commitment in the draft and FA.
        Pace has not shown us that the OL concerns him philosophically.

        • ButtonShoes

          To be fair, it doesn’t seem like Pace has anything resembling a football philosophy. One doesn’t build a team with this many holes and get to claim he has any idea what he’s doing outside of drafting what he thinks is a franchise QB and signing what he thinks is a coach that can maximize him.

          • Pace’s priority has actually been pretty clear. You win with QB and in the trenches. That’s where the majority of his premium resources have been allocated.

          • BearDown100393

            In order for a quarterback to win games, the passing game needs to competent receivers.

          • Absolutely. That has to be a priority this offseason.

            But he’s tried there too. He offered Jeffery more $$ than he took elsewhere to stay. He spent his 1st pick as GM on a WR. He brought in a few FA WRs last year (Wright, Cruz, Wheaton), and Brad Biggs also reported that he offered more $$ to Ted Ginn and Kenny Stills last year than they took elsewhere. They likely would have replaced Wright and Wheaton, but didn’t want to come catch passes from Mike Glennon.

          • BearDown100393

            I don’t blame Pace for Alshon’s departure. Jeffery left on his own accord. He simply wanted to play elsewhere.

          • I blame Pace for not trying to extend Alshon the first offseason he showed up in 2015. Alshon wanted an extension, which he had earned, and Pace wouldn’t even talk about one.

            That understandably hurt Alshon’s feelings and ultimately led to the split, and it was a dumb move by Pace, IMO.

          • willbest

            That could have been dangerous. before 2015 Jeffery was coming off back to back pro-bowl level performances. He hasn’t performed that the last 3 years.

          • It would have been cheaper than the franchise tag or the deal he has with PHI now.

          • Pace has proven time and again that he can’t lure in (nor keep) elite FAs.
            Maybe Bears should hire Emery for FA and keep nerdbot for draft.

          • willbest

            The only position I haven’t seen pace try to address in earnest is kicker. So I hope Nagy has a bit of Pederson or Tomlin in him in the going for 2 and pushing it on 4th and short.

          • He really hasn’t done much at CB either. Since they moved Hall to safety, Pace haven’t drafted a single CB yet. Callahan and LeBlanc were both UDFA. And his biggest FA contract for a CB was Cooper (though he reportedly offered Bouye more $$ than Jax).

          • willbest

            He has been trying to address it though. If he was willing to pay Bouye, and he brought Prince in on a value prove it deal, and they still had Fuller. Cooper was a big bust, and I really liked that signing, but it turns out he was all smoke and mirrors in Arizona. Or maybe he just doesn’t fit this system, I don’t know.

          • Irish Sweetness

            And then some in the WCO. Timing patterns. Watch the pain that ensues for a year or two. And it’s all built into the footwork, and who’s teaching MT that? On the third step the receivers are here, fifth step now this tree opens up …. who teaches him?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Has he drafted an O-lineman in the top 2 rounds other than Long? I think he traded back into the 2nd to get whitehair. I haven’t seen any resources go into the trenches. We wish.

          • ButtonShoes

            Those may be his priorities but I don’t know if that’s a philosophy. Every NFL team is trying to win with what they hope is a franchise QB, because in the NFL that’s how you win. And the defensive strategy seems to be Fangio’s more than Pace’s.

          • BearDown100393

            I still like the theory that signing Giraffe was a “smokescreen”.

            Terrible signing.

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            Signing Tim Tebow for any amount of money – from the minimum to the maximum – would have been a much better smokescreen.

            TV Announcer: “The Bears just signed Tim Tebow to a max contract, but Ryan Pace just traded up to draft Mitch Trubisky suggesting that Tebow may not be the long-term answer at quarterback for Chicago.”

          • CanadaBear

            There would have been talk about bringing back the Wishbone!

          • Irish Sweetness

            (squeals)

          • BearDown100393

            Sure…. but Jeff George lives closer.

          • leftcoastdave

            I wouldn’t call it a “smoke screen” other than to acknowledge that they needed someone who “could” start day one to at least give the appearance that you first pick would not necessarily be Trubisky.
            Once you sign someone, what are you going to say? “Yea, we picked up this guy but won’t necessarily be going all in on him.”

          • willbest

            I have a feeling they could have paid Glennon $15 million and achieved the same result though. I mean who really knows what the bidding on him was like, but I think the Jets were reportedly around $12 mil. Maybe they were offering him more guarantees though.

            So what if people thought the Bears were drafting a QB though. It didn’t seem like anybody was all that interested in coming all the way up for any of them. In hindsight its easy to see how silly it all was. But what are we really quibbling over though. Its not like we are going to have problems throwing money at FA’s we want. We are talking about a 2 months delay in Trubisky’s development at best, and we changed his OC/HC anyway.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I can’t believe he was offered more than ten million. Nobody can defend Pace on that.

          • BearDown100393

            There was at least one quarterback option available with far better talent.

          • willbest

            Josh McCown?

          • willbest

            Well his first couple years were triage. Last year was a major disappointment, I gather, but he did go out and get his guy at QB. They retained Vic and his D so that is now part of Pace’s philosophy.

            He picked up Sheehan so you know he is looking for a Gronk as a central part of his pass game.

            He was okay letting Jeffery walk rather than overpaying him, which means having a top 3 jump ball WR in the game isn’t important to his offensive strategy.

            It won’t be unveiled until 2018, but we do have clues.

          • CanadaBear

            I wouldn’t say Pace doesn’t think it’s important to have a top 3 jump ball guy. I’d say he didn’t value one as highly as AJ.

          • willbest

            I probably should have used the word critical. If you look at the WRs he has chosen they aren’t much like Jeffery. White is a big like Jeffery, but he was brought in for his speed.

          • CanadaBear

            It would be nice to know what is White’s specialty (other than IR). I sure never saw the speed. Hope he has a healthy year and we find out if he is any good or not.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I heard he likes knitting.

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            I never saw the speed either. He played like a guy who bulked up too much (Cedric Benson?) and lost his agility.

            Like a truck catching passes and running routes.

            There’s downside to great size.

          • leftcoastdave

            I suspect how he achieved his build has much to do with his injury problems.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I suspect a lot of players did just as much or more to achieve their builds and numbers for the draft. Just a fluke.

          • willbest

            We never saw it because he broke his leg before he got on the field, and now he has metal in it. But I thought the reason we drafted him was because he was fast and an athletic freak.

          • evantonio

            6’2.5″, 213 pounds, 4.35 40.

            Those were very sexy numbers.

          • He was an athletic freak. On tape and the underwear olympics verified it.
            However, after the rod in his leg he looks NOTHING like that player.
            Bellamy and Cam look more explosive.
            White looks like a white WR like Braverman

          • Irish Sweetness

            I’m looking forward to him being semi-tough this year. He might just break out.

          • evantonio

            Since Pace started, the Bears have spent the 4th most in the league on FA signings. So between triage and disappointment, at least we can say he opened the pocket book.

            Just wish we had 4th best talent to go along with 4th most money spent.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Agreed, ditto Fangio.

            Ditka gets a lot of shade on here, but the man knew what he wanted (whether he was right or wrong).

            Even Lovie kind of had a credo. Take the ball away. Foxy’s credo? Fukkit.

        • Pace has invested 2 day 2 picks (Whitehair R2, Grasu R3) and 4 significant re-signings/FA contracts (Sitton, Long, Massie, Leno) in the OL. He’s also invested 2 day 3 picks (Morgan and Fabuluje).

          I’m not sure where you’re getting this “lack of commitment” from.

          • John F

            Not lack of commitment, just lack of player evaluation skills ……. especially on the pro side

          • Massie, Sitton, and Leno have all been about right based on their deals. Long has been hurt, which you can’t predict.

            Whitehair was a great pick, Grasu a bust, Fabuluje too. We’ll see on Morgan.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            TAYO!!!! Irish Man Meat crush for a season or 2.

          • Irish Sweetness

            A proud member of the Baltimore Brigade in Arena. Pace’s first draft casualty.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Massie is a bum. Leno is middling. We don’t have a solid OL.

            Has he got the nuts to draft Nelson or that big LT?

            Or will he do the usual value-buy and hope for the best?

            He might really screw the pooch and go receiver in 1. That’s the real franchise-sinker for me.

          • CanadaBear

            Can’t really call Tayo and Morgan busts when they are picked that late. To me you can say someone’s a bust in the first three rds but after that I think it’s such a crapshoot in the later rds that anything you get out of those rds other than ST’ers is a bonus.

          • Yeah. Anything after 5th is a dart throw.
            That’s why as much as i detested Wenbnation, had to remember he was essentially like Tayo – a 7th rd flier that should never be counted on to be a starting LT.

            I blame Tice more for that debacle

          • Irish Sweetness

            I’ll take Sitton from that list. I’ll play with him.

            Commitment is first and second round picks, and it’s having the eye for talent.
            So he hasn’t committed us to the OL in any respect.

    • ButtonShoes

      You should never draft for need, and Barkley is legit, but in the case of the Bears there are so many needs at almost every single position that drafting a RB when you’re OK at the position would be the wrong move. I don’t think Jordan’s an elite RB but he’s a very good one. And he’s been pretty durable to date. He should be durable and useful a few years still.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Never draft for need?

        And Howard has no hands, so that’s half the job sometimes. He’s good, no doubt, but we can upgrade and make our team better.

    • CanadaBear

      No problem picking one on day 3. Way bigger priorities than backup RB to fill on the roster on day 1 and 2

    • Scharfinator

      I can’t help but wonder if your consistent calls for RBs has turned into a bit of sick trolling on your part. 🙂

  • CanadaBear

    Fun Fact; Last season, the Bears became the first NFL team since the 1925 Bears to
    play each of their first 11 games against teams with a .500 record or
    better – at the time of their meeting with Chicago.

    • John F

      The last place schedule thing only pays off for two games a year:

      – you play six games a year against your division
      – you play four game a year against another division in your conference
      – you play another four games against another division in the other conference

      So at the end of the day, you only get two “last place games” ………. the Bear’s two last year were Philly and SF

  • CanadaBear

    This is one of those columns that writes itself. Gotta love that!

  • CanadaBear
    • willbest

      Quinn could be useful. I hope to hell we don’t end up with Cobb. Maybe Sanders, but he isn’t a #1. DeMarco Murray to back up howard? Richard Sherman? That would be interesting.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Howard would be backing up Murray, who can catch. How about Derrick Henry? Finally.

        • willbest

          FFS, henery is under contract, mureay is going to get cut

      • Considering the QBs the donks had the past few yrs..both Crabtree and Sanders are borderline #1s, which should mean they’re not gonna beak the bank.

        Either paired w Cam and a draft pick would go a long way

    • DaCoaches Mustache

      Some good talent on that list. I’d take Demaryius Thomas in a heartbeat. He’s a beast when not catching passes from retards. Dez Bryant’s talent would be nice to have, if only it didn’t come with his shit filled dome on top of his shoulders. I’d love to see the Jimmy Graham end up a Bear. I heard that rumor somewhere. Not for big money of course but if we could get him for a decent contract he’d be a great dude to teach Shaheen a thing or two.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Looking at Thomas thru fantasy eyes, he really hasn’t done anything in years. Well, 83 catches and 5 TDs this season, is that worth top dollar? Dude’s 30.

    • Jordan Reed and Crabtree .
      Reed is the most dangerous TE outside Gronk.
      He just can’t stay healthy.
      Would be an ideal “back up” splitting downs w Sasheen.
      Crabtree has actually been the true #1 in Oak town, not Cooper.
      I also like his competitiveness.
      Him or Emanuel Sanders would be solid vets.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

        Didn’t Reed have his coming out party against the Bears? And Waffle called it AND lost his shit over it afterwards?

  • willbest

    Franchise tag – I wouldn’t tag Fuller, but he seems like the only possible player we could use the tag on, except maybe POD but we know Pace doesn’t actually give a shit about the part of the game where people put the foot on the ball. Incidentally, I also wouldn’t mind Fuller playing on the tag as sort of a prove it. It seems worth the $3 million extra over the long term deal to avoid multiple years of guarantees. I guess the question is is there a real rift between Fuller and Vic, and if we believe it.

    5th year option – Kevin White being the player who would be up for 5th year option this year. That won’t get exercised.

    RFAs – I am bringing Bellamy, Callahan, and Meredith back. Probably right of first refusal on the first two, and 2nd round tender on Meredith. I am not worried if Timu or Brown hit FA. They would probably be willing to sign league single year min deals now with 10-20k signing bonuses.

    • BerwynBomber

      “I wouldn’t tag Fuller …. I also wouldn’t mind Fuller playing on the tag as sort of a prove it.”

      So which is it? Would you be prepared to let him walk?

      • BearDown100393

        Has Pace extended any vet’s contract since taking over?

        • willbest

          Long

        • John F

          He hasn’t really drafted anyone that should be extended, that’s part of the problem with Pace ……..

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            LOL. He’s just coming up on his first round of guys that would be considered. But Ok.

      • willbest

        I am saying if I were GM, I would let him test the market and negotiate with him and bring him back if the price is right. I personally don’t trust him not to jump back in the hot tub, but then all I know is what I saw, and Vic questioning his mindset. Which means I don’t want to give him some monster deal.

        However, I am okay tagging him for a single year top end payout and having him show me he can put 2 years together back to back before anointing him CB#1 for the next 3 years.

        What I don’t really want to see is Pace announce he signed Fuller to a top 5 CB contract tomorrow.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Do we get anything if he walks?

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Per Fuller/Vic relationship.

      “You spend enough time around people, you get to know them better,” Fuller said. “So I definitely feel like we’ve built a good relationship.”

      https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/exploring-the-bears-case-for-keeping-vic-fangio-in-some-capacity/

      And apparently they spent some of last offseason golfing and getting to know each other better.

      • willbest

        That actually makes me feel better about him getting a long term deal from us.

    • evantonio

      Can you exercise the 5th year option then cut him if season 4 is like 1-3?

      • willbest

        The fifth year option is guaranteed for injury only. Which is to say if the player sucks, the team can cut him, but if he can’t pass the exit physical before the start of the 5th year they have to pay him. Nobody is going to give a guy that has spent 3 years on injured reserve an injury guarantee.

        • evantonio

          but his brother said he’s gonna be something!

        • evantonio

          So they can cut him if he sucks, but not if he’s injured? Tricky.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            Oh he’ll be injured. They’ll not have options here.

          • John F

            Every player that plays regularly in the NFL at some point is injured in one way or another, just to differing degrees.

            Read the book – “Slow Getting Up” by Nate Jackson. The guy was a tight end for the Broncos for a few years. Played on special teams and for a handful of plays each game. His medical history is unbelievable and is not unusual. And that’s for a guy who hardly played.

          • SC Dave

            $5.2M? Damn right he will.

            http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/chicago-bears/kevin-white-16731/

            Must be fucking nice to make$16M without having to work. Sounds like a Senator.

    • John F

      If we forego the 5th year option on White, you just know he’ll catch 100 balls for 1,400 yards and 14 TD’s.

      That’s how Pace’s 1st round draft picks always work out.

      • willbest

        White is his first one. Fuller was Emery’s last, but it would be so Bears.

        • John F

          Floyd is heading down the same path, probably will miss 8 games next year.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Tag the punter??

      • willbest

        seen kickers get the tag

  • willbest

    After talking about White, here are the other 2015 players

    Goldman
    Grasu
    Langford (gone)
    Amos
    Fabuluje (gone)

    Do any of these guys deserve a contract extension going into the last year? Only Goldman and Amos merit discussion, I think.

    3-4 NTs are quite affordable with only 10 clearing $2 million and only 4 clearing $4 million. Seems like Goldman could be extended for value and probably should be.

    Safeties is a different category. A top 20 Safety is going to clear $6 million a year, but Amos isn’t one of those. The next tier makes 3-5 million, with the rest not making much more than league min. For comparison we paid Demps 4.5 million. As Amos has already shown he isn’t a difference maker, merely solid when his other DB’s are solid, I don’t think we need to worry about extending him. But if he can be had in the 2-3 million/year range that seems like a could bet for continuity sakes.

    • BearDown100393

      That is quite a future ring of honor names there.

      • a quality NT, solid SS, and starting WR and nickel CB in UDFA. That’s not an earth-shattering draft, but you can’t really call it a bad one either IMO.

        • John F

          The problem is where you drafted them, you can’t keep blowing Round 1-3 picks, those are supposed to be your difference-makers. But as we have seen, we haven’t drafted any.

          Some good players here and there, but no one where you would say, “that dude is a perrenial pro bowler”, “that dude wreaks havoc every Sunday”, “wow, we had better account for that guy”

          • White was a blown pick. So was Grasu. Bullard looks like he might be heading in that direction, but not sure yet.

            Goldman and Whitehair were great picks. Floyd and Trubisky both look good so far. We’ll see on Shaheen.

            Nobody hits 100%.

          • John F

            Those are mostly good players, I agree.

            Maybe the bar has fallen so low with the Bears that competent NFL players look like all-pro’s. None of those guys you listed are guys that I would say are players that can make game-changing plays.

            We’ll agree to disagree I guess …………

    • Goldman and Amos, plus Meredith.

      I’d say Goldman is looking at $8-9M a year, while Amos probably $4-5M.

      Meredith I’d say try to get him to sign the Thielen deal (a steal at $4M a year), because if he plays this year on tender he’s going to cost $12M a year or more next year.

      • willbest

        Are you saying Goldman is a top 3 talent at the position? Or do you think the market adjustments are going that way because of the cap?

        • Marcell Dareus is a 3-4 NT who makes $15M a year
          Jurrell Casey $15M a year
          Timmy Jernigan $12M a year
          Brandon Williams $10.5M a year
          Damon Harrison $9.5M a year
          Johnathan Hankins $9M a year

          There’s a big drop between $9M a year and $5M a year. Goldman is somewhere in the Jernigan-Williams-Harrison-Hankins tier.

          There’s a big drop from those guys to about $5M a year. Goldman is highly unlikely to be on the wrong side of that drop, IMO.

      • John F

        Goldman at $8-9mm/year ?!?!?! The guy is slightly above average, he ain’t Tommie Harris ….

        • $9M a year would be tied for 16th highest paid DT in NFL. Or right around average.

          The Tommie Harris level guys are at $15M a year plus these days. Gotta keep up with the times.

          • John F

            Must be that dang inflation, Arab oil embargo and all that ……….

    • BenderMcLugh

      Amos

  • willbest

    Panther’s interim GM cleared of domestic violence allegations by his ex-wife, he can resume his role. What a fucking mess that organization became.

  • CRAZYBEARNORTH48

    I’m hearing fuller doesn’t want to be here

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Where are you hearing that?

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

        Some bullshit website.

        Edit: Yeah. There it is. Above. According to “a source”.

        • CanadaBear

          That dope Jason LaCanfora is spreading that BS. Might help if he could see straight!

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Standard operating procedures for FAs. Leak story, cause buzz, get fans riled up. Just puts pressure on team.

          • CanadaBear

            LaCanfora is really a tool. Wrong way more than he is right.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Fangio sealed that long ago.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

        They play golf together you know.

  • CRAZYBEARNORTH48
    • willbest

      If only there was some way we could force him to negotiate with us if we really wanted to.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

        He signs the deal or I tag him. No two ways about it.

        • Would be another monumental fuck up by Pace in FA if he fails to close the deal, AGAIN.

          I can see Pace thinking he can just replace him like he did Alshon.

          Hopefully, he’s learned his lesson.

          • BearDown100393

            Hopefully. Maybe. Dunno.

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            Pace can replace him just as easily as Jeffrey…for “a player to be injured later.”

          • BenderMcLugh

            Hope not Dammit all

    • BenderMcLugh

      Well shit

  • Irish Sweetness

    So the #2, #3 and #4 WRs are all 6’4 (Equanamious!), 6’4 and Auden Tate is 6’5, 225lbs the jump-ball guy.

    Anyone give up second rounder and ride it on a WR?

    Auden could be MT’s best friend in that endzone.

    Nelson in the first, Tate in the 2nd. Two starters. Bang bang.

    • CanadaBear

      Just the other day you were against taking WR’s in the draft because they take 3 years to develop.

      • willbest

        Is that why Irish always wants an RB in the top 10, they are the most NFL ready of any position?

        • CanadaBear

          Not sure. I get being jacked up over a stud RB but if it’s not really a high priority need, wait for a later rd.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Every team needs 7 backup running backs that are starter quality, and future HOFers. Always be prepared!

      • Irish Sweetness

        Jump ball guys are different. The position is 3 years if it’s X, Y, Z – a jump ball guy can do it on day one if he he already does it well, no?

    • BenderMcLugh

      I’m all on board with getting taller at the wr position & faster everywhere. Inject some Saquon in each position

  • CRAZYBEARNORTH48

    The guy can catch i didn’t watch all of it ..can he run away from defenders

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    • Irish Sweetness

      Doesn’t need to. He’s your guy in the endzone, or first down jumper. We’re not going to sign a 6’5 guy.we’re short of pass catching TEs too, so that height is definitely lacking.

      • BenderMcLugh

        Why wouldn’t they sign a tall TE? Don’t count it out, my money is on at least two raw tall WR/TE will be brought in. #Pace

        • Irish Sweetness

          I don’t think there are any 6’5 receivers on the market.

          • leftcoastdave

            Alan Lazar, Iowa State.

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  • CRAZYBEARNORTH48

    He’ll look good in a Bears uniform

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

      Who?

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        You know that one guy, that plays that one position.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          Oh. Yeah. Well him, yeah. But what about the other guy?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            He would be alright, but there is just something not right about him.

  • BenderMcLugh

    Fuller really gone or is that fake news bullshoize

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      fake news. They will tag him if they have to.

  • BenderMcLugh

    Does that mean we’re getting Sherman? That’s be a nice move

    • AlbertInTucson

      If Richard becomes a Bear, will it be called SHERMAN’S MARCH TO THE “C”….?

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        He should go to Atlanta. Sherman would set the place on fire.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          He was basically the Patriots.

    • Irish Sweetness

      He’s not a FA until spring ’19. Looks like he’s just getting extension negotiations running.

      http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2698444-richard-sherman-trade-rumors-seahawks-reportedly-open-to-dealing-star-cb

      • willbest

        he is overpaid, and it is difficult for players to take a paycut from their current city. there were trade talks before last season. this is why there is a belief he will end up cut

  • Irish Sweetness
    • KentuckyBearsFan

      He’s got a little too much body language after each and EVERY tackle. Is he mentally stable?

      • Irish Sweetness

        I hope not.

    • leftcoastdave

      I think Butch was the first one one on Edmonds and I’m in full agreement. Dude’s got a motor and a good ‘tude.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Good call Butch, save me a seat on the Edmunds train!

        Floyd and Edmunds off the edge, I can get excited about that.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Starting to think that the US should just fire everyone associated with the Olympics and start over.

    https://deadspin.com/report-usa-swimming-ignored-or-covered-up-hundreds-of-1823105656

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      that is messed up. like worse than Sandusky messed up.

      “July 1997 at least 252 swim coaches and officials have been arrested, charged by prosecutors, or disciplined by USAS for sexual abuse or misconduct against individuals under 18. Those coaches and officials have a total of at least 590 alleged victims”

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        It is a Catholic Church level cover up. Disgraceful.

        • CanadaBear

          I hope all the pervs that are still alive get a free vacation in the Big House. I don’t have kids but this shit makes me livid. Bad enough these fuckers do this shit but then to organizationally cover it up, hope those assholes get paid back.

        • willbest

          public school system is even worse. That is the thing with pedos, they gravitate towards position s of trust and authority over children.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            Will. This might be the dumbest post you’ve written. Ever.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I have to agree..

          • willbest

            You are right in that it was a bit of a water is wet comment.

            Reporting in Slate

            “Around one in 10 students said they had been the victim of one or more
            such things from a teacher or other school employee, and two-thirds of
            those reported the incident involved physical contact. If these numbers
            are representative of the student population nationwide, 4.5 million
            students currently in grades K-12 have suffered some form of sexual
            abuse by an educator, and more than 3 million have experienced sexual
            touching or assault. This number would include both inappropriate
            romantic relationships between teachers and upperclassmen, and outright
            pedophilia.

            These statistics are uncertain, however, because no one has ever
            designed a nationwide study for the expressed purpose of measuring the
            prevalence of sexual abuse by educators.”

            http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2012/02/is_sexual_abuse_in_schools_very_common_.html

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            There are so many problems with this article. It doesn’t separate public from private schools. It’s commissioned by a group I’ve never even heard of, that nearly always indicates an axe to grind. It counts lewd comments and locker room “peeping” as acts of sexual abuse. So under this umbrella, the Phys Ed teacher simply being present, which they must be, in the locker room is abuse.

            Also, poll the shitty inner schools, then poll the suburban affluent schools, and let me know what you come up with.

            I went to public schools in two states. My kids are nearly through public schools in two different districts. I have been involved with volunteering and coaching at both. I know nearly all of the teachers, and scores of the parents. Never, not even once, in any of those schools, have I ever even heard so much as a murmur about sexual abuse.

            I’d trust my kids in a room full of public school teachers long before I’d put them in a room full of priests or nuns at a private Catholic school. And it isn’t close.

            And for what it’s worth, my wife and her two brothers all attended big name private Catholic Schools K-12 and my wife attended a private Jesuit University where we met. I attended the school despite being a non practicing, but baptized, Methodist. My entrance exams and subsequent college grades were far better than all of them. And guess what? Both of her brothers were groped in middle school.

            Give me a break.

          • CanadaBear

            I had a nun put her hands all over me a few times and unbutton my shirt when she kept me after school in 7th grade. She did it a few times. I never knew what the fuck to do but it didn’t really scar me.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            You’re lucky it was a nun, and hands.

          • willbest

            The plural of ancedote is not data.

            Need some FedGov docs discussing prevalence in US schools, and shortfalls in preventative measures

            http://www2.ed.gov/rschstat/research/pubs/misconductreview/report.pdf

            http://www.gao.gov/assets/670/660375.pdf

            ABC News on “passing the trash” which has quite a few news stories on the term if you want to go looking

            Think passing the trash is a myth?

            163 teachers/staff that Chicago public schools barred from teaching due to alleged sexual abuse went to work for charter schools in the city.

            http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-chicago-charter-teachers-hired-abuse-misconduct-20171023-story.html

            “I’d trust my kids in a room full of public school teachers long before
            I’d put them in a room full of priests or nuns at a private Catholic
            school”

            This gave me a chuckle. As I am sure you are aware that a room full of people isn’t the issue. Its a room alone with the person that has spent the last 9 months grooming them that is.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            Yes, I understand children are safe in a room full of people and so do you.
            You also very clearly understand the intent of my comment.

            Further, stop making assumptions about public school education and the staff therein based upon findings in Chicago public schools. The city of Chicago is hardly the measuring stick for the rest of the country these days.

          • willbest

            The teacher profiled in that ABC News piece I link bounced around to several different districts in various states of different sizes.

            Its not really hard if you want to use the google. I found a dozen from the Chicago suburbs in short order. I am sure you would find fault with each of them not representing public schools. But given your resistance to the belief that its a problem in the public schools too, I won’t convince you unless I somehow find a teacher who has taught one of your kids.

            Which is why I linked to the 80+ page FedGov reports on it. And I am glad that you and your family haven’t had an issue and saddened that CB has had one.

            But just because the national media hasn’t made it out to be a cliche doesn’t mean its not going on. The sad truth is that its easiest for an organization to sweep it under the rug. It makes them look bad, it irreparably destroys community trust, and it opens them up to massive liability. A child sexual predator will nearly hit triple digits before they are discovered. That is a lot of potential liability for an administrative staff and thus getting rid of the problem quality looks exceptionally attractive.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            “The sad truth is that its easiest for an organization to sweep it under the rug. It makes them look bad, it irreparably destroys community trust, and it opens them up to massive liability.“

            My point exactly. The Catholic Church’s playbook on the matter. We can all google any number of articles and studies to support the narrative we wish to see. Go ahead. Look if you like. If you think child predation per capita is worse in public schools than private, then so be it. You’ve made up your mind.

            Your son, is in far greater danger in a room by himself with a man of the cloth than an ordinary school teacher. If your life experiences and googling don’t at least make that a topic of conversation in your mind, you’ve chosen not to pay attention because you want to be comfortable with the decisions you’ve made.

          • willbest

            Interesting. You have moved from catholic to religious leader. I guess we know why you are so defensive of your position

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            We?

            And I’m not masking anything. Your assertion that kids are at far greater risk of predation in Public Schools than Private Schools is just flat wrong. It’s also unprovable. As we know, the Church in general excels at covering this shit up. So to assume you now what’s up across the country based on a five minute google search and your own personal bias is laughable.

            If you’re questioning my religious background, don’t bother. I gave up worrying about God and Faith a long time ago. I don’t blame anybody that does. I’m actually a bit envious of those that do. I just can’t get there.

            My take, leave the campsite better than you found it. Be kind. And don’t fuck anybody over. If there’s a God, that should do it. If not. I never had a chance anyway.

    • BearDown100393

      The USOC should be vanquished completely.

    • CaponeBot 1.0

      unreal

  • Irish Sweetness

    So this guy Nelson is being touted as the highest rated guard since John Hannah?

    Tremaine Edmunds looks like a beast.

    All-pro guard or LB. Whatcha got?

    • willbest

      No guards in the top 10. And since trading back isn’t going to happen, go with the LB or WR or CB. Maybe a tackle. Massie isn’t a long term answer.

      • Irish Sweetness

        It is kind of a statement to say no to a 10-year guard, but landing that LB would make up for it. That guy wion’t be there for us in 2, but a CB or OT would be.

        • willbest

          How do you know he is going to be a 10-year pro-bowl talent. Nobody thought that of Long, then he went to back to back pro-bowls and looked like he would be. Then he broke down and who knows if he will even be in the NFL in 2 years.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Because they’re saying he’s the best prospect since John Hannah. Nobody was talking about Kyle Long.

            1. Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame

            Analysis: Not since the 1970s has a guard had a legitimate claim to be the No. 1 overall pick. This year’s quarterback class will prevent Nelson from making it happen, and some teams will have RB Saquon Barkley as their top prospect (rightfully). But Nelson is as close to the top of the heap as any guard has been since Hall of Famer John Hannah destroyed New England’s opponents for 13 seasons. Whichever team selects Nelson in the top 10 will watch him become a perennial Pro Bowler as a nasty and athletic leader on the line.

            http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap3000000916306

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