NFL is Playing Politics of the Worst Kind

| June 1st, 2018

“Stick to sports.”

Every sports journalist or athlete who has ever expressed a political opinion has probably had this insipid phrase thrown their way. It’s become quite a common refrain, particularly after the media took note that Colin Kaepernick wasn’t standing for the national anthem a couple years ago.

Like most snarky retorts it’s not meant to be particularly clever or thoughtful. It’s meant to shut down conversation and put someone in their place.

It’s also bullshit.

Not only is it ridiculous to expect a person, let alone a public figure with a large platform, to solely talk about their profession and nothing else 24/7, it’s also disingenuous because often the person saying “stick to sports” doesn’t mean they don’t want someone talking about politics. They just don’t want someone expressing a political viewpoint opposing their own.

Last week’s decision by the NFL to amend their national anthem policy was not made in an effort to “stick to sports”, or appear nonpartisan, as some have claimed. The decision was explicitly political. They implemented this rule in the hopes it would appeal to the political and social leanings of those they view as their core audience: namely, conservative white people.

Let me get two things out of the way before I go any further.

  1. Yes, I am aware not all people who are against the protests are white and/or conservative, and that many conservative-leaning white people are fine with or supportive of players protesting. But in general, white conservatives have been much more disapproving of the protests than liberals and people of color.
  2. This is not a First Amendment issue. Let me repeat that, just so we’re all clear. This is not a First Amendment issue. Private organizations have the right to restrict what their employees say and do during company time. I am well aware of this, so no need to point that out in the comments.

Moving on…..

It’s easy to see the political motivations behind the NFL’s decision. Look no further than the reactions coming out of the White House. Vice President Mike Pence tweeted a story about the new ruling shortly after the news broke coupled with the hashtag #winning, and President Trump casually suggested that anyone who still chooses to not stand for the anthem “maybe shouldn’t be in the country”. (True lovers of freedom, those two.)

In an interview on Tuesday, Eagles DE Chris Long noted the political motivations at work by saying the rule change was “…driven by fear of a diminished bottom line … and the underlying factor is that they (the owners) are afraid of the president.” Long’s theory was bolstered Wednesday as reports came out that several NFL owners are on record as saying that Trump’s intense public focus on this issue was a motivating factor in changing the rules.

So what we have here is a president and vice president who grandstanded and actively put pressure on a private organization to silence peaceful protests by their employees, all in the hopes of energizing their base with an empty display of faux patriotism.

That’s all this is by the way. Faux patriotism.

I’m not saying that everyone against the protests is a fake patriot, or that they don’t actually care about our troops. I do think that the players have made it abundantly clear, on multiple occasions, that they are in no way trying to disrespect the military, and that kneeling has nothing to do with being against the troops or the flag. But I also understand that many people against the protests are coming from a place of good faith.

I just don’t believe Trump is one of those people, and I don’t believe the NFL made this decision out of respect to those good-faith people, or out of respect to the military. I don’t really think the NFL as an organization cares about the military at all, or anything else besides public perception and how it affects their bottom line, for that matter.

(If you think that giant flags and specialty camouflage merchandize in November indicate the league’s commitment to veterans, I suppose you also think that sea of pink you see in stadiums during October means they actually give a damn about the well-being of women?)

It’s all for show.

Trump knows it.

The NFL knows it.

Twitter trolls who celebrate this ruling while simultaneously fuming over Roseanne being fired at ABC probably know it, too.

The NFL is capitulating to the craven culture war politics that have been emblematic of the Trump administration, and yet so many out there seem more upset at players who quietly demonstrate out of a real conviction to highlight inequality in our country. Why? For those of you sick of the politics on either side make no mistake, this ruling does nothing to quell such conversations.

Sure players can’t demonstrate without being fined anymore, but the new rule allows any player who doesn’t want to stand for the anthem to stay in the locker room to avoid a fine. Do you really think that the press won’t take note of players who choose to do so? Do you think fans who disapproved of the kneeling will somehow be completely fine with players, or entire teams, choosing not to come out? What about owners who choose to pay their players’ fines for demonstrating, as the Niners and Jets’ ownership have already pledged to do? You think Trump won’t rage tweet about that at 3 am, sparking several days of wall-to-wall coverage of player reactions, Twitter hottakes, and countless thinkpieces? Come on.

This rule didn’t silence the ongoing conversations around the protests. It ensured they’d be amplified from now throughout the entire 2018 season. There sure as hell wouldn’t have been two articles on DBB about it in one week had they left the issue alone.

[Editor’s Note: There would have been zero. This issue was already dead in the 2017 postseason.]

The NFL is playing politics, and shallow politics at that. So while the league tries to appease a narcissistic autocrat and his supporters, I’ll continue to side with men like Colin Kaepernick, Malcolm Jenkins, Chris Long, Kenny Stills, Sam Acho and all the other players who have not only actively engaged or been vocally supportive of the protests, but have done real work to improve the lives of men and women in their communities.

Because what they’re doing feels far more patriotic than anything the NFL has managed to do.

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  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    I agree the “stick to sports” response is somewhat lacking and insulting. I applaud anyone making a stand for what they believe in. However when it comes to sports, I honestly don’t give a damn what the athletes think. They can believe and think anything they damn well please, it is not going to stop me from watching the games played. If it wasn’t for what these athletes do during the time between the opening kick off, the drop of the puck, the opening jump ball, first pitch and the final seconds of the game, I would not know a thing about them. To me game time is sacred time, I really don’t care what they do or believe outside the limits of the game as long as it is legal. Sit, stand, believe in aliens, the earth is flat, or dinosaurs never existed, I don’t care.

    To me sports are an escape from the crap I deal with in my life. I don’t need announcers reporting who stood or who sat, or any political belief any player may or may not have. Give me those several hours during a game to just enjoy what I am watching. So the only time I would ever use the ‘stick to sports’ phrase to anyone would be during the games and only directed to the announcers of the game. These athletes are entertainers, modern day gladiators, and athletic freaks of nature lets focus on that while the game is going on. If announcers want to go off on tangents during pregame, halftime or post game, by all means have at it. But during the game focus on what is happening on the field of play.

    As for reporters and bloggers of the sports I watch, for the most part, I don’t care about your opinions or views that don’t pertain to the game. But they are your opinions and you are entitled to them. You have a platform, whether it be twitter, blog, newspaper column, TV or radio. It is your platform so say what you want to say and use it how you want. But understand that we as ‘consumers’ don’t have to read/listen to it. Please, remember the main reason most people have found their way to your platform to begin with. Hint: it’s most likely not because of your opinions outside of the game.

    To be fair, when I do get involved on the political posts on this site it is usually on of several reason, sheer boredom, procrastination, or I just feel like trolling people.

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      It’s like I used to look forward to watching the Academy Awards, but even snippets of the last two were so over-bearing and politically charged I just stopped watching.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Yup. Politics, sex, religion. Three things that are not discussed in Irish pubs for a reason.

      Who else gets to be overtly politically when they go to work? If you pull on an NFL jersey and get paid millions of dollars to play ball you’d be fairly expected to pull the party line. It’s your job. You have an employer that can’t have you shitting on their business. Millionaires trying desperately to show us that they ‘feel for the people’ can kiss my black Irish ass.

      Every morning I stand to attention for someone else’s anthem because I’ll lose my job in seconds if I don’t .. .and it’s respectful to do so anyway. When you can’t even stand for your own anthem ….

      • BenderMcLugh

        you’re black?

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          LOL. Talk about someone that is a little out of place, a black Irishman living in Thailand.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Honey, until you shower me in diamonds … you’ll never know.

          (clicks fingers, turns on a dime … and he/she’s gone)

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        It does not bother me if they stand or sit, mainly because most telecasts don’t even show the anthem. It is the constant beating over the head about who didn’t stand. If they are not going televise the anthem why report on it. Then after YEARS of not televising the anthem they start because of this. Evidently the anthem was not important enough to begin with. I also don’t need the announcers to toss it down to a ditzy sideline reporter to talk about it. I don’t need a “game break” to show the VP walking out a stadium, or worse yet a “game break” to discuss a tweet from the Pres.

        • willbest

          Real reporting costs money and angers people, and doesn’t draw eyeballs. Everything you are talking about is tabloid fodder. Its easy and cheap and people eat it up.

          • AlbertInTucson

            “Low Hanging Fruit.”

    • Emily

      That’s fair. I totally get that people might be burnt out on this topic, or any other political topics, and if they had no desire to read this article, I’m 100% fine with it.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        It’s the offseason, a political post post every once in awhile does not really bother me that much and I will read it. If it becomes routine I and others will probably quit reading. My biggest problem has been during the games with the announcers and in game reporting.

        • Emily

          I’m not a fan of that, either. I don’t need a headcount for who is participating and in what way. Sadly, like I mentioned in the article I fully expect that to continue for any players who decide to stay in the locker room or kneel and get fined. It might even be worse now, depending on how many players/teams decide to demonstrate.

  • The Yes Guy


    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Stick to Sports!

      • The No Guy


  • That Guy

    I think people forget that opinions are like assholes. But as much as we’d like our favorite sports players not to have assholes, they have them anyway, and they use them.

    And we’ve got to accept that some assholes smell like our own, while other assholes smell different, even offensive.

    At the same time we have to accept that if you show your asshole to the world, you’ve got to be ready for people to disparage your balloon knot, or to point out the flecks of feces peppering your pucker. Those are the consequences of showcasing your sphincter.

    If we could just remember that stuff, and not get our undies in a bunch about people expressing themselves, we’d all be happier.

  • Scharfinator

    Emily, I’m going to need you to stick to sports in your articles.


  • Kapernick attorney says he has video of an NFL owner admitting that they are too afraid that Trump will Twitter bitch slap their org to defy the blackballing of Kap

    • SC Dave

      Sure he does. Though it would be particularly damning, because everyone knows that one makes a conspiracy.

  • T.dyon

    Might as well protest at your place of work and everywhere else. I mean really embrace it. Who needs sports, let’s spend 24 hrs a day going over all the issues society has. Feelings aside one side seems Rigid and unwilling to bend, the other side is so watered down they have no clear principles. It’s very Clear people get abused. Anybody who thinks their form of politics has the answer, doesn’t have a leg to stand on. Both parties are guilty of many forms of abuse.

    • SC Dave

      The last sentence in no way validates the first. There are other parties.

      • T.dyon

        Agreed. It’s a serious subject on many layers. It’s also a subject that I don’t have enough accurate information on to even offer an opinion. Ranting like I did doesn’t solve anything. My apologies.

        • SC Dave

          What I meant was “second to last” not “first”, but it seems you understood what I meant despite my inability to express it properly.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Curley Lambeau died on this day in 1965. That’s all I got.

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      From wikipedia…apparently his 2nd of 3 wives was Miss California.

    • AlbertInTucson

      CNN was born this day in 1980.

      • SC Dave

        A day which will live in infamy.

        The beginning of the end

        • AlbertInTucson

          I worked with a guy you may have heard of who started here in Tucson before moving on to CNN and now, NBC.

          Dan Hicks.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Curly couldn’t halt the serious decline of the Chicago Cardinals back in the early 1950s.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Emily –

    Let’s play Either/Or … a preference game …. it’s fun!

    1. ….. smoked salmon canapes … or … fried chicken?
    2. ……. Stevie Wonder …. or …… Phil Collins?
    3. ….. A Different World …. or ….. Roseanne ……?

    Gee, that was fun.

    • evantonio

      Fried Chicken.
      Stevie Wonder.

      How’d I do?

      • CanadaBear

        I’m pretty sure Irish will stop flirting with you!!!!!!!!!

        • evantonio

          Crap. Where’d I go wrong?

          • willbest

            You can make it up to him with a firm commitment to the Rothchilds conspiracy and belief in aliens.

      • Irish Sweetness

        It’s not going to happen, Evan. I’m sorry.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Chicken. Stevie. Never watched either one.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Winner winner chicken Dinner! You’re my kinda gal, Al.

    • Emily

      1. Probably friend chicken.
      2. Stevie Wonder.
      3. I was like an infant when those shows first premiered, so your pick, Sweetness!

      • Irish Sweetness

        Stage One complete.
        (Okay ….play it cool, Irish, she’s young ….but we still don’t know if weaves are going to be in the maintenance budget …….)

        … an episode of Soul Train …. or ….. Be a Belieber …..?
        ….on the dancefloor … bogling …. or line-dancing …?
        ….. boxing …. or …. tennis?

        • AlbertInTucson

          Lest we forget, Walter Payton danced on SOUL TRAIN as a teen.

          I understand Don Cornelius was NOT exactly Mr. Wonderful beyond the TV show.

          • CanadaBear

            I liked the scramble. Your brain had to be almost non-functioning if you couldn’t figure it out.

    • SC Dave


  • KentuckyBearsFan

    Is the NFL trolling what would have been mostly a dead issue this coming season (or by the latest, the following one)? It’s like they want the popularity of reality television 365 days of the year now.

    It’s a bad long-term move.

  • Arizona: Bill Bidwill inherited the Cardinals from his father
    Atlanta: Arthur Blank cofounded home depot
    Baltimore: Stephen Biscotti founded staffing business
    Buffalo: Terry Pegula, gasman
    Carolina: Jerry Richardson CEO of Hardees
    Chicago: Virginia McCaskey inherited from her father
    Cincinnati: Mike Brown inherited from his father
    Cleveland: Jimmy Haslan owned a truck stop company…founded by his father
    Dallas: Jerry Jones, gasman
    Denver: Pat Bowlen, gasman
    Detroit: Martha Ford inherited obviously
    Green Bay: ‘shareholders’ (read: suckers)
    Houston: Bob McNair sold Enron right before it exploded…
    Indianapolis: Jim Irsay inherited from father
    Jacksonville: Shahid Khan (only non-white owner…including all Green Bay ‘owners’) founded and autoparts company
    Kansas City: Clark Hunt inherited from family
    Los Angeles (C): Dean Spanos inherited from father
    Los Angeles (R): Stan Kroenke married into Walmart family
    Miami: Stephen Ross, real estate
    Minnesota: Zygi Wolf inherited business from family
    New England: Inherited business from father in law
    New Orleans: Gayle LaJaunie inherited from husband
    New York (G): John Mara inherited team from father
    New York (J): Woddy Johnson inherited from family
    Oakland: Mark Davis inherited from father
    Phiadelphia: Jeffery Lurie inherited business from family
    Pittsburgh: Dan Rooney inherited team from father
    San Franscisco: Jed York inherited from uncle
    Seattle: Paul Allen cofounded Microsoft
    Tampa Bay: Glazer family real estate
    Tennessee: Bud Adams, gasman
    Washington: Dan Snyder. Sold lesbians and widows faulty medical supplies.

    But now George McCaskey is about to drop a dime on the NFL:


    (Full Disclosure: I don’t know who is about to snitch, but it would be wild if it was George. Also, vastly improbable.)

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      Paul Allen? The richest NFL owner. And he (apart from Khan) seems a bit off the beaten path as a techie nerd compared to the rest of the list of inheritors, real estate magnates, and gasmen.

      Or Zombie Al Davis…just to show he can still piss people off even beyond the grave.

      • SC Dave

        Whoever stands to make the most from it, probably.

    • SC Dave

      Is there a point?

  • leftcoastdave

    I’d say stick to sports, but that would assume too much.

  • CanadaBear
    • willbest

      Lots of insight. I like how he remembers all the details of his first TD. I like that he and Knox are still friends.

      “That was the hardest hit, and I realized after the game, once you’re
      struggling for more yards and the play is over with, just go down. Live
      to fight another day.”

      The secret to a long career as an RB.

      “It’s moments like these, as simple as school pickup duty, that reinforce
      Forte’s decision to retire after a 10-year NFL career. “I get to see my
      daughter smile and run up to me, which I didn’t get to do much when I

      This is a good feeling. When I pick up our daughter instead of my wife and she responds as if she was just handed a large ice cream Sunday. They grow out of that though.

    • Sactowns#1

      I miss Matt. Always loved his style of running, just so smooth.

      • CanadaBear

        And a class individual!

    • Scharfinator

      “Some guys sign five- or six-year deals but never see the fifth or sixth year. I went with the four and made every single penny of the contract.”

      Interesting insight!

  • Sactowns#1

    I’d say this is spot on. The “sit down and shut up” crowd are terribly disengaged citizens.

    • willbest

      That hasn’t been my experience. Unless you have some exceptionally limited definitions of “disengaged”

      • Sactowns#1

        Ie Disengaging from constructive conversations and instead shutting it down by casting aspersions. A functioning democracy is generally dependent upon robust conversations and debate.

        • willbest

          So any time any person wants to have a conversation about what is going on in the country, you have to listen or you are terribly disengaged?

          • Sactowns#1

            No. but there should be a space for rational debate and conversation. Not just “love it or leave it” or “sit down and shut up”. The American populace is turning in to a bunch of ostriches who would rather name call and ignore than try to find solutions.

          • BenderMcLugh

            MAGA, 1950’s style

          • SC Dave

            It goes both ways, Sac. In my experience, the “left” is far more willing to suppress contrary opinion than the “right”.

            Your mileage may, of course, vary.

          • Sactowns#1

            Lol… now THAT is hilarious.

          • willbest

            Not if you have been paying any attention to what goes on on college campuses.

          • SC Dave

            The left NEVER WILL. Their ignorance is as astonishing as is the hopelessness of expecting them to understand.

            WILLFUL ignorance as exemplified by sac. Its so pathetic.

            I tried to be open about it, be he gleefully parades his bigoted closemindedness.

            His presumption to know MY experience is breathtaking. Or would be, were it not the hallmark or the hubris of the left.

          • CanadaBear

            It’s always the “other guys” that are the problem.

          • SC Dave

            No, it’s not. It’s pretty much ALWAYS those who trumpet their open-mindedness and tolerance that are the most hopelessly bigoted.

          • CanadaBear

            Says you.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Tell that to the administration at Cal, Berkley.

          • John F

            …you have to listen or you are terribly disengaged…

            No you have to agree or you are a racist homophobe……

          • willbest

            Considering every Starbucks employee just got sent to reeducation, I don’t know if agreeing saves you anymore.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I wonder what percentage of them was either

            A) Dozing


            B) Playing Candy Crush or such on their cell phone?

          • willbest

            Probably quite a bit. But then I imagine what they got was a complete waste of time and not practical handbook of how to handle common situations involving customers or potential customers engaging in particular anti-social behavior on the premise.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Mandatory attendance so I assume they got paid but, is there much tipping at a Starbucks (you can see how often *I* go there) because if there is, servers are out a day’s worth of tips and can’t be too pleased about THAT.

            Of course, Starbucks franchisees flush a day’s wages and can’t be too choked up about THAT, either.

          • John F

            You must enthusiatically agree, and wave your little red book …….

          • Sactowns#1

            No no, you must enthusiastically agree and wave your little stars and stripes flag

        • AlbertInTucson

          We are not a Democracy, functioning or otherwise.

          Supposed to be a Republic.

          I would characterize what we do have as a Functioning Hypocrisy.

          Self-serving hypocrites everywhere you turn.

          • Sactowns#1

            Yes, we are not a direct democracy, we are a representative democracy. A democracy none the less.

          • Bob Doll

            The differences between a Democracy and a constitutional Republic are rather profound and important…in a pure democracy, the majority always winds up oppressing the minority and ultimately fails. The representative govt, like in the Senate, provides a check and balance so that we don’t all become California…people in Wyoming might not appreciate some of the rather interesting and somewhat dysfunctional behaviors emanating from the west coast. York City might want to ship their garbage and sewage to rural communities in Georgia or Alabama….oh wait, they are doing so or attempting to do so.

          • leftcoastdave

            Not to mention the checks and balances where the Congress oversees what is done in the Executive Branch. We have seen that oversight stymied now for over a year in the Russia Spygate scandal. The FBI and “Justice” department are hiding behind purported “national security” when one of the redacted emails redacted the cost of office furniture.
            Yes, we need real checks and balances to protect against the embedded bureaucrats and presidents who interfere with free and fair elections.

          • AlbertInTucson

            The gist of the book NINE PRESIDENTS WHO SCREWED UP AMERICA (AND FOUR WHO TRIED TO SAVE HER by Brion McClanahan, is that while the Presidency has evolved into, pretty much, EXACTLY what the framers of the Constitution feared, with presidents to granting themselves more and more unconstitutional power, the blame lies squarely at the feet of the Congress for allowing and even condoning the power grabs.

          • SC Dave

            So who are the 9 and 4x pray tell?

            Certainly Lincoln and FDR have to be two of nine

          • AlbertInTucson

            Yes, they are two of the Nine along with Jackson, Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Truman, LBJ, Nixon and Obama.

            The author particularly reviles “Dictator” Wilson and “King” Franklin R.

            The Four: Jefferson, Tyler, Cleveland and Coolidge.

          • SC Dave

            Yeah, Wilson was pretty obvious

          • Irish Sweetness

            I’d go Lincoln + JFK. Greenbacks, silver dollars. They tried.

          • SC Dave

            Not by design. Whether you call it evolution or corruption is a matter of opinion.

          • John F

            Functioning Hypocrisy

            I like this ……

  • BerwynBomber

    Excellent commentary, Emily. You were spot-on regarding the politics behind the league’s decision w/out being overtly political yourself.

    Setting aside that element for a moment, the thing that struck me was the league deciding to re-open this can of worms. It is almost as if by drawing battle lines they re-made it into a story.

    No doubt having Trump and Pence criticize your employees can be damaging, but I’m still of the mind that the protests were far from the biggest reason why the NFL’s #s dropped.

    The NFL will continue to be a TV/sport culture goliath, but its popularity peaked a few years ago, and over the long haul will continue to lose incremental viewers each year. There are a number of reasons for this — cord-cutting, Millenials’ interest in the sport, other options available in regard to participating or spectating, the shadow cast by concussions, etc.

    • SC Dave

      I would say the biggest factor is rule changes turning the game into giant reliance on the qb

      • willbest

        They really do need to figure out how to normalize offense quality. Packers make the playoffs every year because of one guy. That’s way too much reliance on one position.

        What about a rule that says the football must cross the LOS within 5 seconds or its a loss of down?

        • KentuckyBearsFan

          allow wide receivers to be bumped within 10 yards again instead of 5

          • AlbertInTucson

            I like this suggestion better than the 5 second LOS one.

          • willbest

            I mean I am perfectly willing to try it, but my concern is that will make Rodgers more valuable because his strength is his ability to buy time. Although it might make it hard for brees and Brady type QBs that operate through great field of vision

          • AlbertInTucson

            I just think the “5 second” idea brings the game even closer to touch football which, I think most would agree, it’s already getting too much like anyway.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Allow players to hit the QB ANYWHERE!!!! Head, knees, don’t matter. Quit babying the bastards

          • willbest

            And go back to leather helmets

      • Part of the calculation was to make the NFL more NBA.

        Higher scoring and more recognizable stars, ie, QBs.

        But there’s gotta be a balance. Most fans dont want to return to 60s 13-3 type games, but this run and shoot SB is also rather ridicules to the true fan.

        I think 80s-90s NFL was that great balance. You still had your star QBs-WRs and scoring , but also had a heathy run game and dominant Ds that can crush them (LT, Lott, Ray Lewis…)

        Sadly (as a fan), we’ll never get that again.

        (Unless they find some revolutionary anti-cte helmet-pill)

    • DBears

      Without being overtly political? “appease a narcissistic autocrat and his supporters” Ha! Perhaps you should go re-read the article. So not only does she get political…. but she basically implies everyone that opposes kneeling is a hypocrite and disingenuous. This is a terrible article on a topic that could be covered much more objectively or honestly. Think what you want about ratings, PR, etc. The NFL is a business just like any other. Outside of media, most other occupations/companies/businesses do not allow their employees to protest or project their own political or religious beliefs while on the company dime. Doing so is bad for business one way or the other, period! Where is Emily’s rage for the NBA policy? Did the autocrat dictate the NBA’s current policy as well? Yea, doesn’t fit her narrative of Trump hating so we just overlook that. Thank god Trump hasn’t weighed in on the block/charge call at the end of game 1, I’m sure that would have been his fault and influence too.

      This entire article oozes political bias. Emily is choosing to hijack a real topic (the players protest to police brutality) for the sake of her own agenda which is essentially to hate anyone associated with President Trump. They are all clearly all in the basket, none of which are capable of simply having a different opinion without it originating from pure ignorance and evil.

      I think players should stick to sports while on the company dime. It may surprise Emily but on Sundays, I couldn’t care less about their thoughts on gun control or abortion whether they coincide with my beliefs or not. That’s not why I/we watch on Sunday. The NFL realizes that.

      Perhaps the players would have a better outlet if bloggers/journalists spent more time interviewing the athletes so we all may read their thoughts at our own discretion…. rather than being lazy and wasting an entire article to throw a fit over an election.

      • If the NFL is truly a business like any other , then they should just drop the military pregame show.

        Then they dont have to worry about pissing off customers either way, esp internationally where they likely view the show like we view Soviet parades.

        • DBears

          So if you listen to Emily, the NFL is not genuine with their support of the military anyhow. However, I’ve never heard a liberal or a conservative really speak out against the military. How they are used is a completely different scenario. Should they drop the cancer support too? No to both…. they are subjects that generally get universal support. If they did stop both, I would still watch. I’m not tuning in to see camo or pink…. I’m watching great athletes play football.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Exactly how is the NFL supporting the military? Seems to me the military was paying millions to the NFL so they could put on their little show before games with honor guards, giant flags, and flyovers.


            And as far as the cancer support the NFL does, it is a joke and damn near criminal. Only around 12% of sales actually goes to a charity.

            “for every $100 in pink merchandise sold, $12.50 goes to the NFL. Of that, $11.25 goes to the American Cancer Society (ACS) and the NFL keeps the rest. The remaining money is then divided up by the company that makes the merchandise (37.5%) and the company that sells the merchandise (50.0%), which is often the NFL and the individual teams.”

            The NFL is using Cancer for PR and to make money. They could be doing so much more.

          • DBears

            The access to large number of viewers is the “support”. You make the point for me against Trubisky Biz saying they should drop “support”…. it very well could be to their benefit financially to keep a relationship with military and cancer support. It evokes an emotion response by many and they can profit from it.

            My point in response to Trubsiky Biz is that the NFL doesn’t get blow back from many people with their association with military or with cancer support; from a PR standpoint, it’s a benign societal relationship but a profitable business relationship. I’m was not addressing the financial aspect but if I was…. going back to my original premise of the NFL being a business…. does it surprise any of us? Same reason they want this anthem stuff to go away. It’s not because of Trump as the author suggests, it’s not because they don’t support the players… ultimately this always comes back to money and they know that a substantial number of viewers don’t like it. The NFL policy was a business decision, nothing more.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Say what??? What the hell are you talking about “Trubisky Biz”?

          • DBears

            I think the point I was making in response to Trubisky Biz was misconstrued. He suggested the NFL sever ties with the military…. ultimately my point is there really is no need to end a benign relationship/support/association esp when it’s mutually beneficial. We certainly could argue who benefits more but that’s not the point. Sure, I’d love to see all monies go to cancer research and programs but even pennies on the dollar are better than no pennies.

          • Exactly. NFL is not supporting the military. Theyre using them to build more consumer loyalty. When was the last time Goodell visited the Navy-Army game? Maybe Trump can make him go every year to show respect or leave the country.

            And tbh, i like the military pregame.

            I grew up visiting air shows, checking out the B52s, blue angels, and going to the navy bases and yearly fam picnics for Hughs …so reminds me of good childhood memories, and ppl kneeling on the sidelines doesn’t deminish my experience.

            On the contrary. It reaffirms what all that is for. Freedom.

        • DBears

          I doubt the NFL is worried about the international market over the domestic… other than the occasional European game and games in Mexico once a year…. this is still predominantly a domestic product from a market perspective.

          • Goodell’s dream is to make it international. That’s why he keeps sending the Jags to England hoping to build a fanbase.

            Only reason it hasnt happened yet is logistics.

            If they had some beam me up tech, he would have shipped the Chargers to Mex, Jags to England and the Browns to N Korea…

      • Emily

        “She basically implies everyone that opposes kneeling is a hypocrite and disingenuous”

        I mean, except for the part where I explicitly said that I don’t believe that:

        “I’m not saying that everyone against the protests is a fake patriot, or that they don’t actually care about our troops. I do think that the players have made it abundantly clear, on multiple occasions, that they are in no way trying to disrespect the military, and that kneeling has nothing to do with being against the troops or the flag. But I also understand that many people against the protests are coming from a place of good faith.”

        • DBears

          It’s amusing that you quote the one sentence that quasi defends the people who oppose the protest, which also has the qualifier “not everyone”. Yea, that really convinced me you think the patriotism and support is vastly genuine!

          At no point did I question the players so I’m not sure why you felt like you needed to defend them? I questioned your motive for writing this piece. It has nothing to do with police brutality, not much to do with rights of players/employees, everything to do with how you despise Trump and his supporters. My original response was to another reader suggesting that you were not “overtly political.” Should we count how many times you referenced Trump or made derogatory comment about him or by association, conservatives or “his supporters”?

          You did actually use the term disingenuous and the word faux. Saying those who want athletes to “stick to sports” are one-sided with that preference is actually the definition of hypocrisy. I believe you referred to it as “Bullshit”.

          “I don’t really think the NFL as an organization cares about the military at all, or anything else besides public perception and how it affects their bottom line, for that matter.” Ah! So we agree! They made a decision in the best interest of their business…. so then why the tirade against Trump?!?! Trump tweeting sways public perception, right? Are all conservatives these mindless bots that blindly follow the “narcissistic autocrat”? Did Trump tell consumers to cancel DirecTV as a result of protests? Must have been his influence, right? Surely (conservative) consumers can’t think for themselves.

          Chris Long has been political long before Kaepernick took and knee and Trump tweeted about it… of course you’d get a political quote from him suggesting Trump was to blame. He’s entitled to his opinion but far from evidence that the NFL’s new policy was “entirely political”

          Is Trump to blame for the similar NBA policy as well? I mean, if the NFL’s policy is terrible and it was clearly the result of the NFL acquiescing to political pressure… then surly the NBA must have adopted the same policy under the same political duress, no?

          So let me paraphrase your piece: white, conservative Trump supports are using the cliche “stick to sports” to oppose a protest under the guise of patriotism which is largely faux patriotism. A narrative that was actually fabricated and perpetuated by the narcissistic autocrat and his administration. The NFL has succumb to the purely politically generated pressure and really has not done much to end the protest controversy with the new policy.

          Here’s my point. NFL made a business decision, it seems you and I agree. You and I disagree on the extent to which politics may have influenced that decision. You could have effectively made a case for your opinion without the numerous disparaging comments which is why I say you hijacked the article for the sake of your own personal political frustrations. It came across as a temper tantrum aimed at Trump.

        • DBears

          Interesting… I must have not clicked send on my previous response…. suppose I’ll writing things once more with a little less interest.

          Yea, actually you used the words disingenuous and faux. You implied the anyone with the “stick to sports” mindset does so one-sided which is the definition of hypocritical. You referenced that notion as “bullshit”

          Yea… so you have to qualify in your quote that “not everyone” is following some faux patriotism, just the narcissist and all his supporters… sounds to me like you believe there is a lot of faux patriotism.

          Not sure why you feel compelled to defend the players, I’m not questioning them. I’m questioning your motives behind the article. Another reader thought you did a wonderful job of not making your article political. You did nothing but that in my opinion.

          You and I both seem to agree that the NFL made a business decision. We differ as to why. The narrative of your article is that Trump and all his supporters have placed enough pressure on the NFL that they have acquiesced. Did Trump ask the viewers to cancel DirecTV? Did Trump have any influence when the NBA drafted a very similar policy? Perhaps the NFL did what they felt was best for the league and it had little to do with the President.

          I thought the article was nothing more than the hijacking of a legitimate topic for the sake of ones own personal political rant against a “narcissistic autocrat” and his apparently “disingenuous” and full of “bullshit” supporters.

          • Emily

            I find the phrase “stick to sports” bullshit. I never implied it was one-sided, only that there seemed to be a noticeable uptick in that sentiment after the protests began.

            I believe that Trump influenced the decision by the owners to change the policy, because owners are on record as saying that *exact* thing, which I referenced in my article.

            I also think Jeff and others (like Benjamin Allbright, who really offers a unique perspective on this issue as both an NFL analyst and a vet) have made a solid case that the NFL wasn’t losing money or significant viewership from the protests. So, yes I believe the political pressure was a driving factor here.

            I don’t like or support Trump, and I certainly wasn’t trying to hide that in the article. You’re accusing me of hijacking a legitimate topic, but this article was specifically about how disturbing I find it that the leader of the free world is the one hijacking this debate, demonizing players, willfully misinterpreting their motivations, and making the issue all about him. You need to look no further than him disinviting the Eagles from the WH today to see that.

            You don’t have to like or agree with my article, and I respect your feedback even if I think you’re being a little uncharitable in some of your critiques. But I don’t know how you can deny that Trump is actively and continuously inserting himself into this national conversation, and considering he’s the most powerful man in the world, I think it’s more than fair to “rant” and express some concern about that.

          • DBears

            “it’s also disingenuous because often the person saying “stick to sports” doesn’t mean they don’t want someone talking about politics. They just don’t want someone expressing a political viewpoint opposing their own” – That sounds one sided to me, hence the implied hypocrisy on your behalf. You already made it clear you don’t believe the person that says “stick to sports” is genuine; it’s BS per you.

            Sure, by Trump talking about it…. it brings the subject to the forefront. I’m not denying he inserts himself into the discussion by making a comment (although I wouldn’t say continuously). That’s just the same as a journalist writing about the subject… or a tweet from any of the 17 other twitter accounts with more followers than Trump, all of which have substantial public influence. My issue with your logic is you presume that Trump speaks and all his minions follow. You seem to have no hesitation to dismiss to a large extent anyone who would say “stick to sports” or feel that its genuinely in poor taste to protest during the anthem or at anytime during a game simply because their opinions align with Trump.

            I’ve brought up two points that you have failed to address. The NBA policy and most obvious, the DirecTV refunds.

            Consumers called DirecTV requesting refunds for the NFL ticket to the extent the company began giving them out, no questions ask. Customers had to specifically say it was the result of the protests. I don’t recall Trump telling the minions to do that and why is that relevant to DirecTV ? I’m not saying I know why the viewership was down last year and none of us know the true economic impact yet… but I’m pretty sure the company that invested 12 billion with the NFL knows a little better than either of us or Allbright for that matter. Recording the X number of cancellations certainly seems like it would be either valuable info for the NFL in gauging not just public opinion but its market influence or great leverage for DirectTV. Either way, it was significant enough that DirecTV wasn’t fighting it and they were making specific record of it.

            As far as the actual policy, if it came from the NFL under such political duress, then why is it that the NBA had adopted what is essentially the same policy prior to this controversy? Using your logic, the only justification for a league to adopt such an impotent and oppressive policy would be under some sort of pressure/duress? Was that the case for the NBA? I would argue they (NFL and NBA) did it based on perceived public perception and it’s overall effect on the value of the league. As far as the owners saying it was because of Trump… do you really think the owners would be up front about making a decision that is unpopular among the players that ultimately protects their personal money/investment? Last I read, they never actually held a vote…. pretty convenient to not have a record of who wanted what if you ask me.

            I think you are willing believe it was Trump and only Trump because you hate Trump (which as you said, didn’t attempt to hide)! What’s really troubling is the disdain you seem to suggest towards his supporters. This is where I feel you went of the rails in what is largely an emotional rant. Make your case for the political influence and ultimately it’s up for debate with no one except the NFL really knowing the underlying motivation. However, the tireless bashing of Trump and by association his supporters is just as I said, hijacking the topic for your personal frustration with Trump and conservatives.

            Do you object to Chris Long and others skipping the WH visit with the Patriot’s prior to any of this controversy? Is that not to a degree similar to Trump saying don’t visit? I’m not condoning that response by either party and yes, I would prefer a President that would take the higher road. I think it is extremely petty on both sides…. but you quote Long and attack Trump and both are guilty of politicizing the tradition of celebrating champions. I agree with your notion the most powerful person in the world should be held to a higher standard and more responsible with their influence and cautious with their critiques… totally agree and Trump is pretty awful at that. So please just cut and paste the piece where you were concerned when presidential candidate Clinton demonized and misinterpreted half the country by calling them deplorable. If your concern is really about power, influence, and demagoguery then your concern should be nonpartisan.

  • Bob Doll

    This is an amazing assertion “But in general, white conservatives have been much more disapproving of the protests than liberals and people of color.”

    gross generalizations are a normal function of the human brain as we identify, quantify and assimilate knowledge and classify/understand the world around us…this may be the mother of all gross generalizations I have read today…show me the math and tell me your assumptions…statistics can lie and liars manipulate statistics to further their own bias and agenda. I can turn on any news program to get my fill of that.

    I believe there was a rule on the books specifically addressing the issue and the NFL chose to not enforce it…now in a move that is sure to stir the hornets nest up, they make another rule…the govt does the same thing. That the author pulls Trump or any politics into the conversation IS the problem. When I watch my beloved Bears play, I am looking to ‘escape’ for a few hours and enjoy the game….I don’t want to hear Bob Costas spewing his vitriol, or see Colin Kaperneck use his platform to make a statement….and then see every damn pundit try to tell the audience, their friends, the public…tell who ever why the player is doing what they are doing…that is dumb beyond comprehension…all humans are individuals and do things for their own individual reasons….and making a ‘gross generalization’ about what and why a person is doing what they are doing is the epitome of hypocrisy. Many humans just follow the leader, mimicking or parroting another and have no real, cognitive or conscious reason why they are doing it.

    Any human who has lost a loved one in the service of military or police is likely to have a much different view of a millionaire brat kneeling for an anthem that so many spend their lives defending.

    The difference between winners and losers in professional sports is a slim margin. Full attention, engagement and effort is required to have a real chance. And if a player is creating a distraction for their team, then the team suffers…Brandon Marshall anyone? Players play to make money, owners own to make money, advertisers pay to advertise to make money…we watch to hopefully enjoy the game; not make money….if the dumbass players, owners and management of the NFL don’t get it…well baseball and hockey are there to watch too…or maybe, like last season, I will watch the Bears or record for later viewing and go fishing while ignoring the rest of the games…I can read my fantasy football results Tuesday morning. In fact, I rather enjoyed not being tied to the television on Sundays. And here I am again reading more opinions and typing my own opinions on the subject matter.

    • BerwynBomber

      Trump pulled himself into the story. WTH are you talking about?

      Even setting aside his mindless, self-serving tweets, he sent Pence to an Indy game to grandstand on the issue.

      So a writer is not supposed to mention that? And you don’t feel that having POTUS criticize your product has a huge influence on decisions?

      • willbest

        I think there is probably enough data on it at this point that if you just ignore POTUS, the disruption to your company will last a couple weeks and stuff will return to normal. For example, he regularly attacks Bezos and that hasn’t prevented Bezos from adding $30-40 billion to his net worth since Trump took office.

      • Bob Doll

        The writer can write whatever he pleases…I don’t come to this site to get political advice or read his political editorials…I want to know how Allen Robinson’s knee is doing…how the new kickoff rules are written…the list goes on….but not politics….so if this is the last political piece I read, I won’t change a thing…if this blog continues to spew political opinion, I will go elsewhere to get my football info. I am but one of many so my individual voice or visit doesn’t matter much but if enough others share my views then there may be a different outcome.
        That the potus tweets is unique in my lifetime, that they are mindless is wrong and that they are self-serving…well I hate it that you get this from my post but EVERYTHING a person does is in some way “self-serving”….even giving charitable contributions is done because it makes one feel better or satisfies some urge, compulsion or diminishes some guilt one may carry.

        • willbest

          This really isn’t the site for breaking football news, bears or otherwise. Jeff occasionally gets that, but its more commentary on the state of the team (with a pro-team bias). And the team, and league in general isn’t doing a whole lot right now. Except what now seems to be an annual May/June stirring up of controversy under the “no bad PR” banner. Two years ago we were “forced” into arguing over football PSI. Some other year it was GF and childbeating. This year its anthem.

          Personally, I find the annual august “pre-season is meaningless” string of posts more tiresome than whatever clickbait the NFL serves up in May for us to keep occupied with. In that regards last year was an amusing change of pace.

          • Bob Doll

            agreed…I like football opinions and comments made, editorializing Bears news…and yes, this is a tough time of the year to write….I have been a content contributor at times over the past few years….just stick to football please…especially Bears news

          • SC Dave

            The long hot summer has been the time when the “caring” come out to bitch about the state of the world and how much they care.

            Nowadays, they call it virtue signalling, but nothing changes in the world

          • Johnnywad

            Correct. Nothing changes. Might as well not worry about it.

          • EnderWiggin

            “Any human who has lost a loved one in the service of military or police
            is likely to have a much different view of a millionaire brat kneeling
            for an anthem that so many spend their lives defending.”

            I have a grandfather, father, and brother that have all fought for our country and lost great friends. All three will tell you that they fought for Kap’s rights to kneel whenever and for whatever he wants.

          • willbest

            And I have an uncle that gets groped by TSA every time he flies because of the 18 months he spent in Vietnam at the request of the US who stopped watching football over it. It’s hardly a unified group.

          • EnderWiggin

            Why does TSA give a hoot about a veteran? Metal body parts?

          • willbest

            Yep the metal.

          • CanadaBear

            I get a lot of extra attention with two replaced knees. I tell them before I’m scanned and it makes no difference. I can wear shorts so they can see the scars and it makes no difference. Gotta love the TSA.

          • AlbertInTucson


            A highly qualified and trained group of professionals.


          • CanadaBear

            My brother was the same way.

        • Emily

          I don’t plan on getting political here too often. I wouldn’t have at all if the NFL didn’t reinvigorate the debate with their rule change. I imagine Jeff feels the same. I also feel like the title of my article gave away the subject pretty clearly, so I mean, if you don’t like reading about politics here you could’ve just skipped it and waited for the next Bears update.

          Also as far as the gross generalizations go in me saying conservative white people are more likely to be bothered by the protests, I took steps to clarify “not all conservative white people”. I also didn’t pull that out of thin air. If you’re interested, take a look at some of these surveys https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-do-americans-feel-about-the-nfl-protests-it-depends-on-how-you-ask/

          In particular: “Opinions on these issues are incredibly polarized by party and race. In the CBS poll, for example, 65 percent of white respondents disapproved of the protest, with 49 percent strongly disapproving, while 74 percent of black respondents approved of the protests and 50 percent strongly approved. The same poll found that 67 percent of Democrats approved while just 11 percent of Republicans felt the same way.”

          • SC Dave

            Many of is dont give a fuck about signaling our virtue.

            We’re here for football, ufos, and bitching about the federal reserve.

            You know, shit that actually MATTERS

          • Emily

            Well. My next article theorizes that Roger Goodell is actually an alien sent from outer space to destroy football and take over the federal reserve. Just for you, Dave.

          • willbest

            That isn’t Dave, but Trac and Irish, might give you the Morgan Freeman treatment.

          • SC Dave


          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis
          • Irish Sweetness

            My man.

          • KentuckyBearsFan


        • “so if this is the last political piece I read, I won’t change a thing…if this blog continues to spew political opinion,”

          That’s pretty much the way to go.

          But ignoring the kneeling is sticking head in sand.

          It IS part of the NFL right now, and a BIG part, which might get bigger if the players all decide to stay in the locker room or do something else uniformly.

          It’s not as if Emily or Jeff are injecting the Mueller probe or N. Korea into the blog.

          The kneeling is pertinent, and impossible to be neutral on.

          Now, if they keep writing about in every other day, then that’ll get old quick much lime the Jeff-Glennon diatribes of Sept 17…

          • Irish Sweetness

            If you think millionaires kneeling is more important than North Korea …..

          • Never said that, but unless Kim Jung starts attending football games, doubt Jeff or Emily will be writing about N Korea on this blog anytime soon.

            Also, rich, white, aristocratic males founded the U.S. and began the downfall of monarchies, so yeah, even rich ppl can rectify injustices…

  • willbest

    To piggyback on yesterday’s miscarriage of justice in campus Kangaroo Court we have the best defense is a good offense strategy being employed by men.

    If you have blackout drunk sex with a woman, make sure you report it as her raping you before she reports you for raping her.


    • KentuckyBearsFan

      “Is it possible for two people to simultaneously sexually assault each other?”

      Some couples have really bad communication. And vision. Turn the damn lights on!

      • AlbertInTucson

        Once booze is involved…

    • SC Dave

      What pathetic cunts Americans have bcome. It’s so past time to Get The Fuck Out.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Someone should create an app so everyone can get consent before fucking.

      • SC Dave

        Now THERE is an idea!

  • John F

    Private organizations have the right to restrict what their employees say and do during company time.

    You may need to make a significant number of people who post here aware of this fact. I have been told repeatedly that you are allowed to protest in your workplace during normal work hours and management/ownership cannot restrict this.

    • Sactowns#1

      Depends on what you mean by protest. I think if your employer passed a work rule stating you had to “properly honor the flag” you would have a pretty good lawsuit on your hands.

      • willbest

        I suppose that depends on what the work environment is. For example, Chris Evans was made to go on HGH and steriods, wear a patriotic outfit and utter the line “There is only one God ma’am, and I am pretty sure he doesn’t dress like that”

        Its my understanding that one of the NFL customers, the US military, pays for this pageantry. I would then presume that these rules are more about trying to provide the customer with the specifications they requested while honoring the employees rights to not participate in an overt form of expression.

        Now its fair to say the US shouldn’t be engaging in this kind of purchase. I wouldn’t if I were them. But its hard to deny that propaganda is used and is effective by all military to achieve their recruitment ends and sell the civilian populations of the various military campaigns they engage in. Sometimes these aims even overlap with he country in question’s best interest.

        • ‘Respectful’ is a slippery slope too. I don’t see how the NFL can argue it’s ‘detrimental’ to the league, any more so than their other policies.

          I bet if Kaep were to go on the draft stage, he’d get as many applause as boos whereas Goodell gets universally and mercilessly booed, so one can argue HIS unpopularity is detrimental to the league

    • Most workplaces arnt telecasted on national tv, so I think we can all agree that being a football star differs dramatically than bob zeroxing memos

  • SC Dave

    Seeing some show, sort of, on SEC network. Auburn dudes, and it looks like contemporaries.

    Frank Thomas
    Bo Jackson
    Charles Barkley

    Holy fuck

  • That Guy

    Here’s the thing.

    When Obama was President, how much politics invaded the NFL? Yes, Kap started his bit while Obama was President, but the most you heard about Obama with regards to the NFL is that Obama is a Bears fan.

    The guy in the White House now injects himself into EVERYTHING, because he wants to pick fights that will play to the people he wants on his side.

    That’s why sports and politics are getting so commingled. Because POTUS wants it that way.

    You got a problem with sports people getting political, blame the cause, not the symptom.

  • AlbertInTucson

    And now, a word from our sponsor…

    A plea is made to “Stick to sports”,
    the runs and passes and kicks.
    Invariably, come posts of all sorts,
    including the minefield that is politics!

  • CanadaBear
    • Irish Sweetness

      All I heard him say is “more of the same”. That won’t be good enough.

      • CanadaBear

        Top 10 D last year without a a pro bowler.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Stick to sports”.

    Or, in Clay Matthews case, “Stick to football”…?


    • That Guy

      With his BFF being Rodgers, it’s unlikely that’s the first time Matthews has been smacked in the face by balls.

  • That Guy

    No matter who you are, or where you fall on the political spectrum, this is a really great story.


    I hope the league lets him put the MD on his jersey. Kid deserves it. And good for Andy Reid for being supportive.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Looks like Yosemite’s EL CAPITAN racked up 2 more climbers this weekend.

    Have to wonder if they were trying to mimmick the guy who recently scaled it without any equipment just about a year ago ..?

    • That Guy

      Someone needs to encourage Goodell to start rock climbing.

  • Great article, Emily. Best of yours thus far.
    I generally try to stay away from politics in certain areas (bars-classes) occassions ( fam get togethers) platforms (twitter) but it’s not dogma, and when the need arises, think it can be constructive as long as the discussion doesn’t revert to ad hominum yelling.

    I come basically from a military fam. From Vietnam, to Afhganistan ( my nephew who made the Rangers recently is there now), Navy, Army, Marines (yes i know Marines are technically Navy) and none of them see the kneeling as disrespectful. One of my vet friends summed it up best , ” who gives a shit?” I know this is simply antecdotal, but that’s been my experience. Maybe military peeps in South Carolina see it diff though. Dunno.

    The big problem i see is one of interpretation.

    Conservatists see the kneeling as a protest to the flag and all it stands for.

    But just to put it in perspective, Rosa Parks wasnt protesting buses, the black olympians w fists raised werent protesting the olympics, that monk who lit himself on fire wasnt protesting robes, at Tienam square they werent protesting tanks, our forefathers werent protesting tea.

    They were all protesting INJUSTICE.

    And they used whatever means necassary to help bring attention to rectifying injustice.


    And that’s just one of maaaany incidents that any citizen would rightfully condemn.

    ( and if you’re racist, just think of it as police brutality in general. Here’s what just happened around ‘libtard` l.a. https://cbsloc.al/2JdD5Qk

    I also find it extremely hippocritical that a guy who dodged the draft is telling ANYONE theyre disrespecting the flag. Where is that conservative outrage when it comes to Seargent Bone Spurs?

    • Johnnywad

      I’m with your buddy. Who gives a shit? I can’t stand the parallel universes that exist. It’s easier not to think about something I can’t change. While Kap is kneeling and subsequently unemployed, (I maintain if he were better he’d still have work despite the baggage) additionally players are protesting, owners are bitching, League is making rules, coaches don’t know what to think or do, etc., nothing changes on the ground. It’s woven into our societal fabric.

      A small chunk of the population lives a violent life, or are at lease proximal enough to, sometimes unjustly, put them in the spotlight of law enforcement And an even smaller, but armed with guns and authority, faction of cops are racist assholes with anger problems. When the two collide, boom, fireworks. Meanwhile, most of society, and most cops just keep chugging along. It’s never going to change. Not ever.

      Do protests even work or matter anymore? The attention span of the American Populous isn’t long enough for anything real to take root.

      So fuck it.

      • Protests do work though. All those protests i mentioned helped change the world.
        The Tienaman Square one maybe not, but it DID put a lot of global pressure on China to improve their human rights, so who knows?

        That being said, ppl are going to stay in their camps fot the most part. In 1963, 60% of white ppl viewed MLKs march on Washington as pointless and maybe violent.

        A gallop poll in 63 also discovered that 78% of white ppl would leave their homes if a lot of black families moved into their neighborhood.

        Now, race relations arent perfect now, but i find it hard to believe that % would still be that high, so maybe protests, marches and civil disobedience do have gradual effects.

        “The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice” – MLK.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Seems like this goes in the right thread anyway ….

    I never saw The Newsroom, but I found this interesting. Jeff Daniels character is asked why America is the greatest country in the world. There is an audible intake of breath in the room when he says it isn’t.

    How real would that crowd reaction be?

  • Irish Sweetness


    A child-trafficking staging post in Tucson has been found … on land owned by the Cemex corporation (who are large donors to the Clinton Foundation) … in a town whose mayor is … Jonathan Rothschild??

    You couldn’t make this up.

  • Eric Allen

    Nice breakdown. If i were cynical i would say that this has everything to do with the Department of Defense starting to run recruitment ads in 2009, coincidentally the same time players had to be on the field and standing. If i were cynical.

  • antityco

    Well said, Emily.

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