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Five Bears Thoughts for Your Weekend Pleasure

| August 11th, 2018

As we get deeper into August, here’s what is happening in and around the Bears.

  • Kevin White’s performance against Cincinnati wasn’t an isolated performance. I’m told by heavily reliable folks that White has struggled mightily in the practices not open to the public and the coaching staff is beginning to lose some patience with him. (They’ve also been very impressed with the work ethic and determination of Javon Wims.) Does that mean he won’t be on the roster come September? I still think he’ll be there. But I was far more certain in that assessment a few weeks back.
  • Interesting tidbit. A well-respected, accomplished NFL coach – who employs a friend of mine – has a collection of what he calls “preseason plays”. These are plays that don’t appear in the regular season playbook but are merely meant to provide players the opportunity to win one-on-one battles. I asked if that’s commonplace around the league and the sense I got is that yes, it is. So while you can’t evaluate any particular unit in the preseason due to a lack of game-planning,  you can evaluate performances on an individual, one-on-one level. Especially later in these games.
  • The one position I believe can be evaluated in the preseason is back-up and third-string QBs. And if this preseason has been any indication, Mitch Trubisky better stay healthy. Chase Daniel looks comfortable in the offense, specifically to his first read. But he throws about half of his passes directly to defenders. (Maybe half is unfair but it sure as shit feels like that.) As for Tyler Bray, what can you say? If Tyler Bray is playing in an NFL football game this season, the team he’s playing for is going to lose.
  • Various outlets have predicted Leonard Floyd to have a breakout season for the Bears and the talent is certainly there. But in this league, it is not difficult to scheme against an elite pass rusher when there’s no complementary weapon the other side. Lynch is never healthy. Acho ain’t the guy. Fitts hasn’t even looked like a pro football player to this point. As much as this has been an area of focus for fans, we should all come to terms with a basic fact: Ryan Pace isn’t going to be able to fix this issue until 2019.
  • The Bears have the opportunity to sport one of the deepest and most versatile collections of tight ends in the league. They’re fully expecting Trey Burton to be a star. Adam Shaheen is a match-up nightmare in the red zone. Dion Sims has been a source of consternation for fans but he’ll be far better utilized in 2018. The guy who could be a real player in this league if given that chance is Daniel Brown. Brown feels like he’s been around forever but he’s only 26 years old. He’s one of this club’s best depth pieces.

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  • Glad I am not the first to think Jabón Wins will beat out Kevin White. Such a shame. White is good kid, but he’s like a raw rookie. Worse even, because he hasn’t played football for 3 years.

    • SC Dave

      We’re told he’s a good kid, anyway. From what I see as a football player, I wouldn’t waste a roster spot on Kevin White. Nor do I feel one iota sorry for him… guaranteed $16.5M.

      His salary is a sunk cost, and should have zero effect on determining whether he stays on the team.

      The only monetary consideration is how much his replacement costs, and if it’s Wims, it is little above the league minimum.

    • Irish Sweetness

      It’s all good if they do it. We get a young talented baller in the 7th round. For nothing. Great hands, nice height. What’s not to like?

      • catfish44

        to me, it’s more about white is losing than wims a winner. white has been a bust for quite time. be gone! a waste of roster space almost as bad as grasu.

  • T.dyon

    White has exceptional raw skills, but seems to struggle with the finer details which are essential.

    • catfish44

      like getting open, running the routes correctly, and catching the ball.

  • SC Dave

    I disagree on Bray, but then again, Jeff was spot on about Glennon.

    Biggest problem is Bray looked way better than Trubisky.

    Of course, maybe Mitch will get more than 8 snaps and 6 real plays in preseason game 4.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Bray’s a 5 year vet, no? He should be pretty polished by now.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Bray missed 2 wide open receivers in the endzone on the same drive.

  • SC Dave

    Wow… standing at Riverwatch Brewery is Augusta Ga and old ST:TNG episodes are on.

    In hi-def.

    For fuck’s sake, watch that shit standard. The effects look really, well, fake in HD

    • AlbertInTucson

      For me, that show took 2-3 seasons to find its footing.

      Marina Sirtis’ looked hideous with her hair up in that bun and that uniform they first gave her.

      I thought Worf and Data became the most interesting characters though my favorite episode is THE INNER LIGHT where Picard is given the memory of a different life on a doomed planet by a probe from that long extinct civilization.

      Of course, there is a huge hole in that plot, namely, if they were advanced enough to create such a powerful mind probe they certainly should have been advanced enough to move beyond the somewhat primitive civilization depicted.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Didn’t that damn flute from that episode auction for 50k?

        • AlbertInTucson

          I don’t know about it being auctioned, but they have him play it again in a later episode.

      • SC Dave

        Well yeah, that was a favorite of many. Picard gets to enjoy all the joys of raising a family with a woman he loves with zero effect on his highly ambitious career.

        Best of both worlds.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Except SHE dies and so does the planet.

  • SC Dave

    #rant-on

    Speaking of ffs, the damn entitlement of the young today. Fucking mutts barking at each other in a goddamn restaurant.

    Are you fucking kidding me? You self-absorbed little cunts bringing your animal slaves here. Leave the dogs at home, you selfish assholes.

    And yes, management has already been told.

    The real question is do I pay the bill?

    Yes, I will enable, yet again. In the end, fuck me for putting up with it and being a pathetic enabler.

    #rant-off

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Who brings a dog to a restaurant? What kind of restaurant lets dogs inside? I could see it if there was outdoor seating. Isn’t there some health code violations with that?

      • AlbertInTucson

        A LOT of folks now bring dogs into restaurants, grocery stores, etc., claiming they are “Service Dogs” or emotional support dogs.

        You can order pseudo “service dog” vests on line for like, $30.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I have seen dog hotels and dog restaurants. You can decide to be a different gender now just by changing your mind and nothing else. Apparently – not sure if this was in Canada or the USA – you can go back and forth between genders in the same day and action a lawsuit against anyone who isn’t in step with how they address you.

        Society is dying.

        • AlbertInTucson

          “Society is dying.”

          Thank you, unbridled liberalism.

      • There’s quite a few restaraunts and bars that are dog friendly in l.a., mostly in the higher end and hipster joints.

        I see it like going to a Snoop Dog concert. Can’t complain about the weed haze

    • If you knew the restaurant was dog friendly b4 hand, isn’t that on you?

      This is like when I enter Chucky Cheese. I’m already gonna brace myself for a bunch of kids running around crying , punching , falling , getting greasy pizza fingers on everything.

      • SC Dave

        It’s not like there was a sign on tje door, Butch.

        • Really? Hmm. The few over here have dog friendly signs.

          Though it’s entirely possible they assume locals know how they roll.

          There was a big hubub about some bars allowing babies in.

          Mostly, Mimosa mom bars

  • bearfaninde

    Speaking of 1st round draft picks, is Roquan gonna start in game 1? And how good (or bad) will he be?

    Jeff- what’s your take on this situation?

    • SC Dave

      I’m pretty much with will. At this point, he needs to lose his first game check.

    • I doubt he starts the 1st 2 games of the season. It takes at least a week just to get into football shape (and I don’t care what Roqs doing in MIA. Ain’t the same). It’ll take at least another to actually learn the playbook sufficiently.

      Barring INJ, I think Roq starts no earlier than week 2, so be prepared for Vadgers abusing Kwiat and Acho again

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Does that mean he ( White) won’t be on the roster come September?”

    When was the last time the Bears gave up on a 1st round draft choice in less than 3 seasons?

    Offhand, I can’t think of one.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Found 1.

      1991 1st round bust, OT, Stan Thomas.

      Dumped after only 2 seasons.

      • SC Dave

        White could have been on the roster three years now sans injury. So looking back to 1961 (Ditka’s draft year) if we look at first round picks who didn’t make it to a 4th season with the Bears, we add:

        2005, #4: Cedric Benson (35 games w/12 starts in 3 seasons)

        2003, #14: Michael Haynes (393 games w/4 starts in 3 seasons)
        2002, #29: Marc Colombo (19 games w/7 starts in 2+ seasons)
        1999, #12: *Cade McNown (25 games w/15 starts in 2 seasons)
        1998, #5: Curtis Enis (36 games w/18 starts in 3 seasons)
        1995, #21: Rashaan Salaam (31 games w/20 starts in 3 seasons)
        1971, #11: Joe Moore (23 games w/4 starts in 2 [disjoint] seasons)
        1966, #10: Loyd Phillips (32 games w/11 starts in 3 seasons)

        • AlbertInTucson

          My benchmark was 3 seasons so, the only with just 2 in this century is Carmi.

          4th Year for White. SMH.

          Actually very FEW teams with cut loose a #1 in under 3 seasons.

          • SC Dave

            McNown

          • AlbertInTucson

            Last century.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Joe Moore.

          Another “never healthy” once he got to the Bears.

          They drafted his Missouri running mate, James Harrison, that year too.

          As I recall, he was a fullback who wasn’t very good at running inside.

        • BerwynBomber

          I had Haynes and Enis pegged as busts the moment we took them. Enis was nothing special. Just happened to be the featured back on very good JoePa teams.

          Haynes was a bit of a mirage. But anyone with half an eye or brain knew Spice Adams was the better player on those PSU teams. And given that Adams went in the second round, Haynes was probably no better than fourth round “talent”.

          P.S. I knew nothing about White but was against the pick as I would have never drafted a WR that high given the needs of the team. Remember that draft was after two years of Emery, Trestman and Tucker, and Emery had dumped most of his capital into the O. We should have selected a D player that year in R1.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Colombo is REALLY frustrating.

          He finally DID get healthy and had some solid seasons at right tackle.

          For Dallas.

          The rest of those guys never amounted to anything, anywhere.

  • AlbertInTucson

    I see Wims vs White and all I can think of is Tres Way vs. Pat O’Donnell.

    • Irish Sweetness

      It’s an interesting one, Al.

      I hadn’t considered that cut before. White and Wims are the really the same guy. Tall. One is a first round draft pick and the other is a 7th. Ignore all that and you have a guy in Kevin that hasn’t given us any reason for hope whatsoever and has been mostly injured. Then you have a kid in Wims who looks very much like a baller, has a bigger catch radius, and is looking very good indeed given he’s only a rook.

      I’d swap Wims in and cut White if that was the option. With Wims you’re getting a guy who looks good NOW and will only improve. Where he was drafted shouldn’t come into it but probably will.

      • AlbertInTucson

        You make a good case for Wims but, the Bears are absolutely LOATHE to admit a first rounder is a bust in less than 3 seasons.

        So far, I have found only 1 from this century.

        OT, Gabe Carimi, from 2010.

        The Bears track record drafting offensive tackles in round 1, to quote John Wayne from IN HARM’S WAY: “…reads like a bunch of pig tracks.”.

        Stan Thomas

        Marc Colombo

        Chris Williams

        Gabe Carimi

        A couple of them contributed on other teams but they all sucked as Bears, mostly because, like White, they couldn’t stay healthy in Chicago.

        • And many speculated Long was really drafted to play OT, and he’s been mostly INJ too

          • CanadaBear

            Kyle has played in 65 out of a possible 80. Just thought I’d throw some facts in there.

        • SC Dave

          I added to your list. White is going into his 4th season. He should not get a pass by being injured.

          Of course, you didn’t say what the Bears SHOULD do, but rather what they DO do.

          • AlbertInTucson

            doo-doo explains a lot.

          • SC Dave

            I figured you’d see that, and it makes me happy.

  • Irish Sweetness

    David Fales will fall victim to the numbers game with Tannehill, Osweiler and Petty in front of him at Miami.
    He looked like their best QB against Tampa, he’s really grown up. 8-11 and some real beauts.

    Sinorice Perry looked great too!

    • BerwynBomber

      I caught Fales once last year. After the Fish pulled Cutty after a series or two in W17.

      Fales’ passing was very anemic. He basically made Hoyer look like Cutty in terms of throwing the ball down the field. Maybe he was holding back (but I don’t know why). Maybe the Fish were holding him back (but I don’t know why).

      But he did not look like an NFL player.

  • BerwynBomber

    Watched every pass highlights of the top four rookie QBs — Mayfield, Darnold, Rosen and Allen on YT. All four looked good, but Allen looked the best and Rosen the worst.

    Allen, in particular, was a revelation. I had never seen him play. His arm is as advertised — he was tossing Elway/Cam-like thirty yard ropes — but he was much more agile than I expected. Really made some nice escapes and scampers.

    Rosen didn’t look horrible — though he basically threw a pick six that was dropped — and he had to deal with a few horrific shotgun snaps. But his outing just wasn’t as impressive as the other three.

    Mayfield and Darnold looked rock soild.

    I suspect all four will be starting for their teams by season’s end. And Allen might be starting opening day. I can’t imagine McCarron offering much to hold him off (though I like McCarron as a back-up).

    • Coming into the draft, I thought Mayfield and Darnold would do best.

      But the Browns can ruin anyone.

      I think the Browns chose Mayfield for his cockiness.

      Iceman and Maverick were basically the same skills wise, but Maverick had that extra fire which loser orgs need to turn it around.

      That’s sorta how I see them.

      Rosen was supposed to be the most pro ready but had some “character” red flags, namely, that he was a douche ( Rodgers fell for the same reason). I’m more worried about his durability.

      Allen is a mystery. Most potential for boom or bust.

      • SC Dave

        Mayfield reminds me of McMahon a little.

        I agree that confidence will be critical trying to survive in Cleveland.

      • AlbertInTucson

        GIf you produce on the field like Rodgers has, no one, except opponents, cares if you are a douche.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah, Allen has to prove he is accurate. He was below 60% in college which is usually a bad sign.

        Agreed about Rosen. Unlike the other three, he has limited mobility. And unlike Darnold and Allen, he’s not very big.

  • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0

    Prince groin
    Sims concussion
    Roquan holding out
    Lynch hasn’t practiced one single day because of a hamstring.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Could be worse. Bunch O’ 49ers went out of their game this week including free agent RB, Jerrick McKinnon who will have an MRI on his knee.

      That is rarely good news.

    • SC Dave

      Kwiat is our starter. Maybe you should root for him?

      • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0

        Haha, to me he’s the Mike Green of inside linebackers.

        • If Kwit is your worst starter on the whole D, you’re fine. When he’s your 2nd best LB out of 4, like against CIN, that’s a problem.

          • Kind of like Amos. When he was the best player in the secondary in 2015-16, it was a problem. Surround him with good players like in 2017, and all of a sudden he’s solid.

    • Prince’s healthy yr was the aberration.
      Lynch is always hurt when he’s even motivated.
      I expect Fitts to be in the tub before week 8
      Kwiat and Acho will be defending Rodger passes week 1
      And shoot, why not, throw in some LeBlanc

  • Sebas Bear

    Is it September yet? Ready for football. Got tickets for UCF’s home opener. Only undefeated National Champs last year. Just love saying that to piss off AL fans….including king douche….saban.

    • SC Dave

      Fuck ‘bama

  • Bob Doll

    White is a huge disappointment but I did not expect him to make a significant contribution…in fact, if he does play good, I still don’t see a way he is in a Bears uniform next year…and if he is injured or doesn’t play well, he will be a FA signing for some other team next summer. I’d like to see him play well and stay healthy and enjoy a long productive career…doubt that will be in Chicago if at all.

    As far as the Patriots are concerned…I don’t see that they draft well at all. They are perennial winners and seldom have top picks but this team is propelled by Tom Brady and Belichick’s game planning. There is no Patriot coaching tree of talent…they routinely sign older veterans and squeeze a couple of years out of them…they don’t dominate the pro bowl with players…they just win on Brady’s arm and by taking away what the opponent does best…and they almost always field a very good offensive line. They are fundamentally sound and very disciplined…two guys propel that team year over year.

    Patriots drafted Brady in the 6th round…they and every other team didn’t think he could play in the NFL beyond back up…they were dumb ass lucky and the guy is the best of all time as far as I’m concerned and ageless to boot…when he retires, if I were Belichick, I would retire too.

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