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Final Notes on the Bears Coaching Staff

| January 22nd, 2018

Administrative Note: I’m doing one of those AMAs over at Reddit tonight at 6 pm CT. I don’t quite know how it all works so please stay tuned to DBB’s Twitter handle (on the right rail here at all times) for updated information. I have never been on Reddit or looked at one of these AMAs so I have no idea what to expect. But they asked so why the hell not?


We’ll be moving on to roster stuff and free agency soon enough but I wanted to put a punctuation mark on the coaching staff sentence after making a few phone calls and piecing things together.

  • Dave Ragone being kept on as QB coach was a difficult decision for Nagy but ultimately conversations with the Bears 2017 quarterbacks swayed him. I’m told the Bears had serious talks with former Raiders offensive coordinator Todd Downing about the position but determined this relationship – quarterback and quarterbacks coach – would benefit from continuity. Downing, they believed, was itching to get back into the coordinator’s chair as quickly as possible.
  • The Bears want Mark Sanchez back. Mark Sanchez wants to come back. But Sanchez has not given up on being a substantial NFL contributor and there is a belief that he simply does not fit the offense the Bears are going to be running under Nagy/Helfrich. The Bears would be open to bringing Sanchez back as third quarterback should they move on a Chase Daniel-type as backup. It’s a waiting game on one of Mitch Trubisky’s most trusted sounding boards.
  • Many criticized Ted Phillips’ involvement in the coaching search. Early in the process he was the primary information gatherer on potential coaching candidates. Per a source, one of Phillips’ first calls was to Dave Toub on Matt Nagy and Toub gave a substantial, effusive endorsement of the Chiefs offensive coordinator. That endorsement went a long way with ownership and is a major reason the Bears landed their first-choice coach quickly.
  • Per source, money was never an issue for Vic Fangio. Coaching staff was never an issues for Vic Fangio. Relationship with the new coach was not all that high a priority for Fangio, either. I’m told concretely that Fangio just wanted to be closer to California, closer to his lady and friends. And once he realized that wasn’t going to happen, he never really considered coaching anywhere other than Chicago.
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  • catfish44

    No Carson Wentz, no Jason Peters, no Darren Sproles, no Jordan Hicks… the Eagles overcame numerous hurdles to make it this far, and after a standout performance from their backup quarterback, Philadelphia is going to Super Bowl LII. so much for the whining the last two years about the numerous bears injuries. the truth is that the bears roster is well below average, injuries not withstanding.

    • Big Mike

      We all know the Bears’ roster was weak. It is getting stronger gradually. If you look at the rosters when you take out the top end contributors/skill positions, the Eagles still fielded a very good team. Kudos to the players who stepped up. The Vikings crapped the bed.

      • catfish44

        vikings won 13 games and made it to the NFC championship game. that’s not ”crapping the bed”.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Evidently you did not watch the game yesterday. The Vikings crapped the bed.

        • Big Mike

          Let’s just do away with the sophomoric wit and the idea that you know more than everyone else. Of course it was a good season for the Vikings. Yesterday they did not play up their potential. Case closed.

          • catfish44

            glad you are dropping the ”sophomoric wit”. too bad you are so defensive boy.

        • evantonio

          it’s not crapping the bed on the entire season. but when you’re the league’s #1 defense and you give up 38 points to a backup QB while only scoring 7 yourself, that’s crapping the bed in the NFC Championship game, which kind of then leaves a bad taste in your mouth for what you’ve accomplished the rest of the season.

          can we agree on that?

          • catfish44

            punk little boy needs to run home to mommy

          • evantonio

            huh? am i the punk little boy in this statement?

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            Yes

          • evantonio

            Ok. Just wanted to be sure so I didn’t run to mommy for no reason.

          • CanadaBear

            I ran to my mommy but she’s been dead for over 20 years. She wasn’t impressed!

          • catfish44

            ya, it would hurt. no doubt. foles a better back up than most. he was a pro bowler one season. 29 td’s 2 interceptions that year. the ’85 bears were waxed by the dolphins for their one loss that year. everyone has bad games. it doesn’t mean their accomplishments were bogus.

          • evantonio

            the lost by 2 scores in the middle of the season, then ran the table to win the Super Bowl.

            the Vikings lost by 5 scores to end their season. 13-3 was not bogus, but losing by 5 scores with the super bowl on the line does leave a bad taste in the mouth. like beets. gross.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

      Every single team has injuries by the end of the season and lots of em. The only one that makes the Eagles special in this case is Wentz. It’s pretty damn impressive to find yourself in the Super Bowl with your backup QB.

      • catfish44

        only one? peters is a 9 time pro bowler and starting left tackle. hicks starting middle linebacker. sproles a better tarik cohen who had 6.3 yds per carry and 52 receptions last year. i’m not whining for, nor praising, the eagles, just pointing out the bears was due not to injuries, but a below average roster.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          And a shitty coach, and a rookie QB, and a receiving corps that didn’t even sniff “below average”. , and 400 other reasons that have been hashed out over and over again.

          If your contention is that injuries in the NFL don’t matter, you’re completely full of shit. What the Eagles did is admirable, and they’re a really deep and balanced team. But they’re the exception that proves the rule. Injuries do matter. A lot. And if your roster is thin in depth to begin with, they matter even more.

          • catfish44

            ”If your contention is that injuries in the NFL don’t matter,” i never said that, did i? tryng to put words in my mouth is juvenile.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            I didn’t. That’s why I phrased it the way I did. “If”.

            So what is the bottom line meaning of your post? Just simply that the Bears roster is thin? That’s the whole thing?

            I could have saved you some time. Everybody here already knows that.

            The point is that it’s finally getting better. And it is getting better.

            And there’s nobody here more juvenile than you Catfish. Nobody. Some of the things you post………..

          • catfish44

            what a little boy you are. grow up. your reading comprehension is near zero. do i need to define the word comprehension for you?

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            No. But if you would, please go back and throw in some capitalization.

            It would make your stuff easier to read for those of us that struggle with reading and so forth.

          • BearDown100393

            I want to believe after this upcoming draft and free agency, the depth issue will be resolved.

          • catfish44

            hard to say. pace has been pretty good in the draft, but terrible with free agency.

          • BearDown100393

            Time will tell about that draft evaluation.

          • catfish44

            agreed. white is a bust, not just due to injuries, but can’t seperate, poor route runner. floyd a good/very good player, but not elite. grasu shouldn’t even be in the NFL. he’s not getting difference makers/ elites. we don’t know about trubisky yet. he definitely drafting better than his predecessors

          • BearDown100393

            Pace hitched his wagon on MT and Nagy.

          • catfish44

            yep, all we do is wait and see.

          • John F

            You sure about that draft thing? I see a LOT of average out there ……

          • catfish44

            your opinion, my opinion. still early. trubisky, cohen, and eddie jackson look better than average from last year. amos, floyd from earlier draft the same.

          • I wouldn’t hold your breath.

          • John F

            Lack of injuries is the only reason the Bears went to the SB in 2006 …. which unfortunately kept Lovie employed for another eight years

    • BearDown100393

      McCaskey watched the game yesterday and realized what needs to be done for next season.

      He went on Amazon and immediately ordered 53 dog face masks.

    • That Guy

      They had Carson Wentz, arguably the league MVP, for almost all the regular season. Foles returned to the form he had when he set the league on fire.

      The Bears have had neither a Wentz-caliber starter nor a Foles-level backup, ever. Maybe Trubs develops to that level.

      The truth is without Wentz/Foles, the Eagles get to the playoffs because they’re in the fucking NFC East, but they get blown out in the wild card round. And if Foles doesn’t play at a high level, Philly is one and done, too.

      QBs are, like, important.

      • catfish44

        important? agreed. my end point wes that the bears roster was the main culprit for their poor season.

  • catfish44

    alshon jeffrey two td’s yesterday and on to the super bowl. good call on his part leaving the bears. i wish he was still here. i really like him as a receiver.

    • catfish44

      i also really wish jay cutler was still our qb.

      • Big Mike

        Crazy talk. Alshon didn’t want to be here. He’s a good receiver. Wish he was here.

        • Bear Instincts

          https://twitter.com/i/web/status/955405610278932481
          FWIW Alshon had his worst year since his rookie year, despite getting a ton of targets. Letting him go was the right call. Eagles overpaid him twice.

          • catfish44

            the bears didn’t ”let him go”. he didn’t want to be a bear any longer.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            If the Bears wanted him on the team he would have been on the team this past year. It is called the ‘Franchise Tag’.

          • Big Mike

            He’s still a good receiver. I still wish he was here. Those stats are insightful. Wouldn’t have paid him what the Eagles did. You’re right. SB envy creeping in.

          • Alshon predicted his team was going to the SB.

            Said it carried over from the Bears.

          • catfish44

            you’re jealous.

          • Ray

            That’s what happens when you go to a team that spreads the ball around. Jeffrey is heads above in talent to any WR on the Bears roster this year.

          • Exactly.

            Ertz and Aghlor had a great yr. And Wentz spread it around as effectively as possible

            Alshon is no Julio, but he’s a notch below and still a damn fine WR (when healthy) who is head and shoulders above Wheaton (great call, Pace!)

          • leftcoastdave

            Franchise tag or bye bye. There was no in between. He chose a pay cut below what was offered.

        • BearDown100393

          He was gold yesterday.

        • Yes, but the REAL question is WHY didn’t Alshon want to be here?

          Remember the “he wants to go to a warmer climate” narrative? It’s not exactly South Beach in Philly.

          Truth is, something in the Bears’ culture repulsed Alshon.

          • Big Mike

            Or he’s an offensive player that wants to make a mark in the league and the Bears offense has sucked. If I was a WR I wouldn’t want to play for Fox if I had a choice.

          • leftcoastdave

            It is called losing. He went where he thought he would be a good target and where he had a chance to go deep into the season. Good for him. That’s reality.

          • And WHO is responsible for the losing?

  • Big Mike

    Which team would you rather be a fan of. The Vikings (blow out losers) or the Jaguars (Losers in a heartbreaker to the GOAT)

    • catfish44

      neither.

    • ButtonShoes

      Fuck the both of them. It’s Bears or nothing.

      • catfish44

        yep

      • BearDown100393

        Seriously this.

        Rest of the league doesn’t cry over the Bears.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Since you are implying those are the only choices I can have, I would go with the heartbreaker. Getting blown out shows either the team should not have been there to begin with, or the team did not play up to its potential.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

      Closer is always better right? I’ll take the hard fought, contentious loss anyday to getting blown out.

    • That Guy

      Jags. They’re still on the upswing. The Vikes are a mess at QB. Was Keenum a one-season wonder? Will Minny shell out big $$$ hoping to catching lightning in a bottle again? No way they’re going to keep two injury-prone guys on the bench behind him, because despite both being talented and starter quality, they’ve got maybe 1 good knee between them.

      No, the Vikes are teetering on disaster. They might reload and be fine next year, or the wheels might come off at QB.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

        Man I don’t see how they can keep Bridgewater at all. He was juuuuuust starting to look like a fair to middling starter when he blew up his knee. How anybody could have faith enough in that knee to give him starter money on a new deal is beyond me. Maybe he goes on and plays another decade and never has a problem with it. But I doubt it. Even then, was he good enough when healthy to merit the risk? Maybe. But that’s more like 49/51 maybe.

        With the defense they’ve built, and Cook coming back, I’d pay for a guy this spring and draft one too. They’ve got to try to win now. We all know how quickly a defense like that can unravel.

        • They can’t keep Keenum. He’s too much of a gunslinger.

          When your D sucks, then a team needs that type to make plays and carry teams.

          but there’s a reason Zimmer kept Bridgewater on speed dial and even refused to name the starter till like fri.

          Keenum is too much like Cutler in his brazen aggressiveness while Bridgewater is more of game manager, which fits better with a team built on D

          If Bradford’s not hurt, he’d be good for them. And naturally, Alex Smith who can add the running dimension.

          But I don’t think Keenum is a good fit, while Bridgewater is a total wildcard whose ceiling might be Dalton.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            Keenum only threw seven interceptions in the regular season. I’m not sure I agree that he’s a gunslinger. Seemed pretty efficient to me until yesterday.

          • I picked up Keenum in FF, so I ended up watching a lot of his games.

            He threw a lot of VERY risky throws up for grabs. A lot of the time the WRs had to bat it down, or it was juuuust out of the fingers of defenders, or straight dropped INTs.

            I know the “what ifs’ don’t count, but I’m sure Zimmer saw the same, and was like “oh shit”

            Those lucky breaks have a way of correcting themselves.

            Reminds me of Foles actually.

            In 2013 he came in, played 13 games, 64% comp, only 2 INTs.

            But he too got massive breaks in the luck dept. I remember an anlysts pointing out all the bad throws and such warning that he was fool’s gold and his luck would run out.

            It did. Next season He played 8 games with 59% comp and 10 INTs (3 Fumbs) before getting benched.

            On the Rams Foles played 11 games with 56% and 10 INts and 3 fumbles before getting benched again

            That first yr was pretty much an outlier.

            I sorta see Keenum as the next Foles.

            Could be wrong, but Foles is just a natural gunslinger, and they tend to TO in the long wrong way more than the more conservative types.

      • Both MIN and JAX have a great D but huge questions at QB going forward.

        I’d pick JAX simply because they’re in a much weaker division and a weaker conference. The NFC is loaded with good young QBs.

        • leftcoastdave

          Data, my feed no longer automatically refreshes. How do I fix that?

    • BerwynBomber

      Vikings because of Zimmer.

      Yes, he got outcoached yesterday. But he has won the division two of his four years there (w/ two different journeymen quality QBs) — and this is a division with Aaron Rodgers in it.

      Plus, Rodgers is injured and aging now, and the Cheese otherwise look like backasswards run organization.

      DET just fired their best HC in fifty years after he posted a winning record. So Lions.

      The Bears are what they are until proven otherwise.

      Yeah, the AFCS stinks but Watson, Mariota and Luck could change that. Coughlin, though, was obviously a damn good hire.

      P.S. good question

    • Jags.
      They get Alex Smith, draft a QB in a loaded QB draft, and they’re ready to roll.

      Heck, can even keep Bortles as backup.

      The AFCS is the suckiest division IMO, so path to least resistance.

      They also showed in their first real playoff run that they could hang with the platinum standard, even with a bad QB and some bad calls AT Gillette.

      They get a real QB, and watch out.

      Vikes didn’t just lose, they were HUMILIATED by a 2nd string QB.

      I mean, Fox could’ve probably coached them up better. That would seriously worry me going forward if I were a Queens fan.

      You can always improve the roster, but you can’t get a brain transplant for the HC.

      • Big Mike

        Fox would have never gotten them there. Good points all around.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    A couple posters in this comment section has me yearning for the return of Data’s minions. SMH!

  • BearDown100393

    “The Bears want Mark Sanchez back. Mark Sanchez wants to come back”

    Time for Mark to understand his time in pads (beyond holding a clipboard) is most likely over. I won’t trivialize his role this season – he clearly was a sounding board and adviser to MT. That seemed to have value. Far more than the Giraffe.

    Make him a coach type offer. Or make him be gone.

    • Concur.

      But I think coaches work more hours for less $, whereas a 3rd string “mentor” QB gets millions more for less hours.

      Mark is smart. He’s gonna hold that clipboard on the sidelines for as long as possible.

      It won’t be a good market for him next season either

      The league is going to be flooded with QBs..

      .Alex Smith, Tyrod Taylor, Cousins, Eli, Keenum/Bridgwater/Bradford, Foles, McCaron, Cargo?…Darnold, Rudoplh, Mayfield, Rosen, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson….

    • DaCoaches Mustache

      I’m not in the QB room, but what could this guy really bring to the table? “Hey Mitch, don’t run into the fat guy and fumble”

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

        That’s really good information to have though.

  • leftcoastdave

    “Per a source, one of Phillips’ first calls was to Dave Toub on Matt Nagy
    and Toub gave a substantial, effusive endorsement of the Chiefs
    offensive coordinator. That endorsement went a long way with ownership
    and is a major reason the Bears landed their first-choice coach quickly.”

    NO, NO, NO!

    You cannot break the meme! We all KNOW that da Bears management SUCKS!

    It has been written!

    • BearDown100393

      I miss Dave Toub.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Management still sucks. We don’t know if Nagy will be any good, and since Teddy was involved in anyway there is a high likelihood that he will suck too.

      • Remember Jeff and all the management defenders reassuring us Sweaty Teddy is merely a bean-counter and has NOTHING to do with football operations?

        Guess not.

        This has Sweaty Teddy’s fingerprints all over this now, which does NOT reassure me.

        Some might add, “Oh, but he’s just a networker”

        Well, other SUCCESSFUL orgs have management who KNOW football AND are networkers.

        Here’s an example.

        Let’s say Sweaty Teddy was president of a firm who hired contractors for 40 yrs. Obviously, he’s gonna get to know ppl in the industry, but it would still be nice if he actually knew something construction and not just had an MBA in accounting and couldn’t hammer a nail.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Honestly, I am one of those guys that does not think Teddy is the boogieman. He still has his job so he must be doing something right. My guess is he is very good on the business and political side of things, like working with the City, Park District, advertisers, marketing etc.

          He has been around awhile so he is going to know a lot of people. As Pace said in his presser, they went through a lot of research and talked to a lot of references. I don’t see it as a problem that Teddy picked up a phone and made a few calls, especially if he had personal relationships with the guys in the past.

          • But like I said – if you’re in the biz long enough, you’re going to make connections.

            If you or I were dropped into his position for the past 20 yrs, we’d have the same connections. Doesn’t mean we’re qualified or football czars.

            Shouldn’t the Bears, esp the McCaskeys who are not like grand daddy and know shit all about football, surround themselves with FOOTBALL ppl whose judgement they can trust?

            But instead they keep a bean-counter who must rely on others outside the team to evaluate. That’s a HORRIBLE model, and might explain why the Bears have sucked for the past 20 yrs where one of the few constants was Sweaty Teddy who ADMITTED he doesn’t really care about wins and losses.

            If the Bears have sucked, and he’s a constant, maybe fire his ass and see how that goes.

            It’s sort of like with the medical staff. If the Bears keep getting ravaged by INJs, it’s no longer bad luck but a systemic issue which must be addressed.

            But the McCaskeys on top of not knowing shit about football don’t know shit about business either apparently so must rely on Fredo to keep their pockets lined at the expense of victories.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He has been President of a loser for a very long time. At some point, he’s had his fingerprints all over everything. Doesn’t the buck stop with the Prez?

    • evantonio

      I bet the call was to get him for HC. But Dave Toub, knowing there’s nothing sweeter than turning a 6th WR into a top-notch gunner, turns down the offer and talks up his colleague, Mr. Nagy.

      What an upstanding guy.

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    • catfish44

      love toub as a coach. wish bears still had him.

      • catfish44

        love cutler too. wish bears still had him.

        • leftcoastdave

          I love Cutler too. Wish he could be here to drink beer and watch the Bears games with me.

    • John F

      I love a nice white whine

  • UCF Bears Fan

    No point watching the Super Bowl. After yesterday its a given the Patriots will be declared the winner. Refs will ensure that.

    • evantonio

      You can’t stop Nick Foles. You can only hope to contain him.

      • UCF Bears Fan

        Can’t believe I might have to root for the eggles….still have to contemplate this one.

        • evantonio

          I’m pretty interested in seeing what their fans would do

    • CanadaBear

      When you absolutely, positively need a PI call at the most crucial time …

      • BerwynBomber

        That one at the end of the first half was garbage.

        That said, the JAX/NE game was more fairly officiated than the TEN/NE game a week earlier. The latter was a disaster.

        • UCF Bears Fan

          NE had 1 penalty yesterday. Really! Need some of those glasses the refs were wearing.

          • CanadaBear

            And none on either the D or O, just the one ST’s penalty.

          • SC Dave

            It’s all so transparent.

          • willbest

            It won’t be transparent until we watch a ref crowbar Cox’s knee after he sacks Brady.

  • BerwynBomber

    Can’t blame Sanchize. The guy’s not stupid.

    He saw Glennon play. He probably saw highlights of Tom Savage or TJ Yates. He probably watched tape of Brett Hundley.

    Is it any surprise the guy would think, “WTF, I can’t be a #2 in this league?”

    Btw, interesting insight into Fangio’s motives.

    • willbest

      The real question is what is a Giraffe to do.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah, that will be semi-fascinating too. Will any team pick Glennon up for something other than taxi squad fodder?

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Tampa seemed to really like him as a backup. My guess he will sign there.

      • BearDown100393

        Retire.

  • CanadaBear

    Well it didn’t take long for me to get over exposed to Romo. About halfway through the game yesterday I found myself either telling him to shut up or stop yelling.

    • UCF Bears Fan

      Glad to hear I’m not the only one that thinks hes annoying. Perfect use for the mute button on the remote.

    • willbest

      I missed all but the last 5 minutes of that game

      • BerwynBomber

        The first three quarters were awesome.

        • willbest

          Yeah I chose poorly on which game to watch.

      • CanadaBear

        He was yelling all game.

    • AlbertInTucson

      He definitely needs to dial back on the yelling.

      Anylize, Tony.

      Don’t cheer.

    • BearDown100393

      For Gawd’s sake, give Tony Romo break.

      He just finished his best playoffs ever.

    • Sactowns#1

      “Oh no!”

  • Sactowns#1

    So again I will ask, has Nick Foles done enough to become the starting QB in Philly next year? If not, what will it take?

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      He could win the SB and still be the backup in Philly.

      • willbest

        I presume he was mocking somebody because Wentz was top 3 in consideration for league MVP before he went down.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Sac moved to Portland, so you never know how messed up his mind is. That city is a whole lot of crazy.

        • Sactowns#1

          Not at all. I think it will be interesting. How do you bunch a guy who just took you to the SB. Better, how do you bench a guy who wins the SB?

          • BearDown100393

            Exactly.

            Clearly the logical solution is for Philly to keep Foles.

            And then immediately trade Alshon and Carson to the Chicago Bears for Giraffe.

          • willbest

            Because Foles isn’t a blank canvass. He has a history of inconsistency. And not just in different systems. In this system. He has had 2 solid playoff games, but his first 3 games as QB1 he average 5.4 yards per attempt.

            Your best case scenario is that Fole is Eli Manning elevating his game for the playoff and you want to put that person in as QB1 next year over a guy who is on the short list to be the 2020’s best QB?

          • John F

            Grossman “took the Bears to the super bowl” and he sucked

          • BearDown100393

            Rex is a God.

          • Two major different factors though.

            1. Foles has looked GREAT in the playoffs. Grossman gross?
            2. Pederson is an offensive genius. Lovie…

            Then again, Keenum reverted to his true form, and that may happen to Foles at any times as well.

      • evantonio

        He can Hostestler his way to a starting gig somewhere else.

      • John F

        You won’t have to worry about that “winning the super bowl thing” ….

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          You also said the Patriots would “destroy” the Jaguars.

          While the Patriots likely win the Super Bowl, let’s play the game and see what happens.

          • John F

            Despite the final score, did anyone have doubt what the outcome would be after halftime? I didn’t, it was like a boulder rolling downhill at the Jags. They were a non-factor for the last two quarters.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            So that game unfolded the way you thought it would last week?

          • John F

            No, I was surprised how poorly the Pats played early. But once they got their stuff together about midway through the second quarter, it was obvious that the Pats would eventually win.

            Same for the NFC game. After the pick-6, you could tell which way the game would go.

            Both games were pretty boring, turned both of them off early.

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            how could you turn off the Pats game? c’mon man.

          • John F

            Because it was obvious the Jags were in over their heads and it is no fun just watching one team flail while the other just does whatever it wants to do. It’s boring football ……

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            Dude,what the fuck are you talking about? Jags were winning 20-10 going into the 4th quarter and it took a last minute drive to win it.
            The internet is a crazy fucking place man.

          • John F

            Did you really think the Jags had a chance in the second half? It looked like they were just being led to the slaughterhouse. I want to watch a football game where I at least think the other team has a chance to win. Otherwise it’s a waste of my time.

            Did you also watch the fourth quarter of last year’s SB? Didn’t you immediately get the feeling that the Falcons were toast after the field goal (prior to the two TD’s)? I did, so I turned it off. I knew what was happening and it’s really not enjoyable to watch a one team that has no chance, and the other team just roll over them.

            Unless it’s the Bears steamrolling the other team, I’ll definitely watch that.

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            Two incredible comebacks on the biggest stage for all the marbles. If you can’t get excited about that I can’t help you.
            no need to continue this thread, thank you good night.

          • John F

            Robots need to go to sleep?

          • Sactowns#1

            I think you mean “once the refs game them 7 points before the half it was obvious the Pats were going to win.

          • John F

            One special teams penalty against the Pats the whole game seems a wee bit light.

          • leftcoastdave

            That explains everything.

          • SC Dave

            What about the 45-0 prediction?

          • willbest

            Don’t sweat the details

          • John F

            I was only a few point off, jeez what nitpicking ……….

          • Hey, I thought the Vikes would blow out the Iggles.

            Oops!

            Gambling on playoffs is a BRAVE maneuver, like that spiderman dude going up skycrapers

          • Irish Sweetness

            Ya takes the points. First 7 of 8 were ATS.

          • leftcoastdave

            Off topic, but ah, the good old days when a roll of 60 singles was considered a “wad.”

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            And now……can’t even fill up my truck with it.

        • SC Dave

          One thing for sure, we don’t have to worry about any predictions you make.

    • willbest

      Nick Foles has done enough to get the starting QB job in Minny next year.

    • catfish44

      wentz will start. i’d trade foles.

    • CaponeBot 1.0

      The 2 QB system got this team to the promised land. I cannot see them getting rid of Foles now. Why not keep 2 quality QB’s moving forward? Wentz is on rookie deal for a long time.

      • willbest

        And for a long time you mean they have him for $7 million next year, $8 million the year after and $25 million the year (5th year option), before he starts getting tagged for $30+ million a year. The most likely outcome is that if Wentz comes back looking like Wentz this year he will get an extension heading into his 4th year to prevent the Cousin approach.

        • CaponeBot 1.0

          ok, so they can keep Foles 1 more year

      • If Foles wins the SB, doesn’t he go full-Flacco and cash in on FA?

        I know I would.

        Don’t know if he’s under contract for chump-change, but I’d be demanding a trade, and I’m sure a lot of teams would want a SB winning QB, so the Iggles will get a nice return.

    • leftcoastdave

      Not that it would be the nicest thing to do to Foles, but what do you think Cleveland would give up in draft capital for him?

  • BearDown100393
    • Irish Sweetness

      And he would have walked straight into Halas Hall if we’d airlocked the other dummy!

  • BerwynBomber

    ARI hiring Steve Wilks as HC.

    • CaponeBot 1.0

      I don’t see how this is possible, Steve Wilks is black. Black coaches don’t get chances to work in this league. Well, we all know it’s still a racist league until there is a black owner.

      • willbest

        Oprah can buy the Panthers.

        • John F

          Oprah can buy just about anything she wants

          • willbest

            Forbes estimates her networth around 3 billion which would mean she would need minority partners if she were to buy an NFL franchise.

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            how much more minority can you get? gay native americans?

          • John F

            You haven’t been paying attention, add another five designations to the end of that. And then rank them.

          • willbest

            near as I can tell MTF, gay, black hispanic, muslim, womb twin survivor is the current king Ruler of the minority hill.

          • SC Dave

            Gay is too mainstream… you also need to select one of the 80 new genders.

          • BearDown100393

            AKA Dan Snyder’s franchise

          • Fabulous casinos. Best mojitos, but double down has other meaning…

          • Irish Sweetness

            Need a bunghole in your tee-pee?

            (bada-tish!)

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            Don’t know about Oprah, but Forbes valuations for top college football programs is laughable.

            https://www.forbes.com/pictures/emdm45el/6-university-of-alabama-crimson-tide/#682fbe0f1b96

            University of Alabama valued at only $93 million (and only #6 among college programs).

            Because if those programs were valued accurately and publicly ($300 million???) college players would be getting paid beyond room, board, and tuition.

          • willbest

            If you go to an article its because Bama might make ~$100 million a year but they spend $50+ million on football operations. By contrast the Longhorns made ~$120 million but they only spent ~$30 million on football operations. looks like they are using some sort of modified net adjusted earnings calculation. That makes sense if you remove the status symbol aspect of it.

            In truth an NFL team is an awful investment from a revenue standpoint. Look at the Packers. They are almost certainly in the top half of financially performing franchises and they are netting $30 million a year. Nobody in their right mind would pay $3 billion dollars for $30 million annual profits. You would make more loaning it to Uncle Sam.

            The bulk of the NFL’s value is derived from its scarcity which generates status for billionaires. Like how that Microsoft guy bought the Clippers for stupid money, and every painting from long dead famous artist keeps setting new records.

  • leftcoastdave
    • That is a good list overall, but Barrett is not a realistic option. He’s a RFA, which means the Broncos will hit him with a tender forcing any team signing him to give up a pick (likely a 2nd rounder) plus pay him.

      • leftcoastdave

        I spotted the same thing when I delved further into the matter. It doesn’t really look like there is that much out there than filler and a developmental flyer in the draft.

  • BearDown100393
    • evantonio

      pshaw. Johnny Knox laughs at this guy’s broken back.

      • Scharfinator

        Awww probably not though 🙁

        • evantonio

          No, I’m guessing he doesn’t laugh at anyone’s broken back. If anything, he’s jealous of Thielen’s injury.

  • Be careful. Jeff might see the pizzas and smite thee from Da Blog instinctively.

  • BearDown100393

    Uh yeah….. that new blue t-shirt…… from a distance….. the dude looks like uh….. Hitler.

    • Is that Red Grange, the galloping ghost?

      • BearDown100393

        Allegedly “Bronk”

        Adolph Bronk

      • SC Dave

        If you’re talking about that shirt, its Nagurski.

        Still the only player in NFL history to be named All-Pro at three non-kicker positions.

        Presumably Sammy Baugh was named at three positions too, but that was QB, DB, and punter I imagine.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Composite early mock, combining 6 boards. Kiper, McShea, et. al.

    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/01/nfl-mock-draft-2018-consensus-picks-first-round-experts

    • EnderWiggin

      I doubt Giants take a QB. I also doubt that we take a SS. Never know though.

      • John F

        Um, don’t they desperately need one?

        • EnderWiggin

          I like Amos and Jackson. Demps will be healthy too, I think we are OK there.

          • John F

            I meant the Giants and a QB, they need one.

          • EnderWiggin

            Oh, maybe I guess. I’ve always been an Eli guy though.

          • leftcoastdave

            Demps was great to learn up the kids, but now a tad pricey. The biggest question there is whether Deondre Hall shows up to play football this year. Has great size and wingspan. It’s time to fish or cut bait.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Naturally, the ND tackle projects at 7.

        • CanadaBear

          I’m pretty sure the Beloved have enough holes there will be a player of need available. I’m OK with OL, DL, OLB, CB or grudgingly WR, with the first pick. As always, as long as they don’t suck!

      • You think the Gmen will sign Cousins or another QB?

        I’m curious what we do at SS.

        Amos looked like a JAG b4 this yr. Why we brought in Demps.

        Are they sold on him now?

        And will the new regime give Demps another shot?

        Was he a Pace or Fangio guy?

      • That Guy

        No fucking way do we take a SS in the 1st round.

        Think about the FS talent that was on the board in the 2nd round in 2017 and Pace passed on it. There are MUCH bigger fish to fry on this roster than SS. Edge, WR, OT. ILB. TE. CB more than SS. SS is so low down the priority list it’s ridiculous. Unless the SS is the bastard child of Sean Taylor and Brian Urlacher, pass.

  • BearDown100393

    Cleveland hires Todd Hayley.

    That is a perfect match.

    • as OC I assume.

      Guy’s a douche, but he’s a competent OC.

      Like the OC version of Greg Williams.

      • BearDown100393

        OC.

        Cleveland and Hayley is the equivalent of Vegas and Hunter Thompson.

  • willbest
  • EnderWiggin

    Blogfather is doing an AMA on CHIReddit in 20 minutes. Show him some support tonight.

  • “The Bears would be open to bringing Sanchez back as third
    quarterback should they move on a Chase Daniel-type as backup. It’s a
    waiting game on one of Mitch Trubisky’s most trusted sounding boards.”

    I seriously hope Pace doesn’t sign Chase Daniels or that mold.

    I like Bisky. He’s got the tools, and now he has the coach.

    But he’s no sure thing.

    I’m often shocked that teams only carry 2 QBs.

    I mean, who has the ability to change a franchise – a QB or some gunner?

    Draft a QB in the mid-rds. Punch that lottery ticket. Develop him behind Bisky as an insurance policy.

    If you want a floor Vet as the immediate #2, sure, bring back Sanchize, but even then, I’d rather sign a guy like Tyrod Taylor who can run and therefore fit the WCO/RPO mold more.

    If Foles and Keenum has taught us anything, it’s that a properly coached young QB can bring hope if the starter gets hurts or busts.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Isn’t Tyrod the insurance policy at that point?

      • AlbertInTucson

        Tyrod thinks he is a starter.

        • I think this yr the NFL will finally make him a backup.

          He may get a Hoyer type chance somewhere as a ‘bridge’ but honestly so many QBs are gonna flood the market, I don’t see which team will even throw him that life line.

          Maybe the Donks. Maybe.

      • He would be my first choice. I think they’re done with him in Buff, but he would fit our team perfectly.

        Tyrod takes care of the ball. He can run. He’s rather scheme flexible playing with the Ravens and Bills.

        He can def run WCO or RPO.

        He’s used to throwing to TEs and I expect that to be a focus under Nagy.

        He’s a vet – a pro with no character issues. He can teach Bisquit as much as Sanchize with the bonus of being able to actually play and save a season if needed.

        I would get him AND draft a project QB in the 4rth/5th.

        that way we have our Franchise, our vet and our long term insurance plan.

        Haven’t dug deep into the draft, but Lamar Jackson might fall.

        He’d be a perfect project if he does fall. Season him like a turkey for a few seasons, see what pops out in 2020.

  • Irish Sweetness

    “I’m told concretely that Fangio just wanted to be closer to California, closer to his lady and friends.
    And once he realized that wasn’t going to happen ….”

    WAIT! Fangio wants to be somewhere ELSE??????

    THEN GET THE F**K AWAY FROM MY TEAM YOU F**KING COCK-KNOCKER !!!!!!

    • CanadaBear

      Ever get the feeling you’re talking to yourself?

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