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Data Entry: A Realistic Best-Case Scenario for the Bears Future.

| March 9th, 2018

As everybody knows, it’s been a rough stretch for the Bears. They’ve won a total of 14 games in the three years since Ryan Pace took over and lost at least 10 games in each of those seasons.

Now many fans, myself included, see a young quarterback in place and a new coaching staff designed to help him succeed. Better times are on the horizon. After all, teams with a good QB on a cheap rookie contract are usually pretty good for most of that deal. If you believe Trubisky will be even an average NFL QB, things should be looking up for the Bears.

But before I get too carried away planning a downtown parade route, I want to look at recent history to get a sense of a realistic best-case scenario for what the Bears’ next few seasons could look like. Again, I want to emphasize this is not what the Bears’ next few seasons will look like. This is an historically realistic, best-case scenario.

But hey, free agency is starting next week and we’re all dreaming big, so let’s have some fun.


Playoffs

The first goal has to be making the playoffs, so let’s start there.

Since the Bears are on a bad three-year run, I looked at all playoff teams since 2007 and tracked their performance in the three years before making the playoffs.

The table below shows averages and low values for wins each season, plus the number of teams (out of 132) who had marks the same as or worse than the Bears. Full data can be seen here.

A few thoughts:

  • It’s not surprising that playoff teams tend to be pretty solid in past years too. For all the talk of parity in the NFL, the average playoff team was slightly better than average in each of the three seasons prior to making the playoffs. The Bears are clearly not at that point right now.
  • When you look at any one season, things don’t look too bad for the Bears. Plenty of teams have gotten into the playoffs after one bad season.
  • Where you start to see a bit of a problem is when you look at the accumulation of three straight bad seasons. Only 5 out of 132 playoff teams since 2007 have done that following a stretch featuring 14 or fewer wins over the last 3 years. If you change the threshold to losing at least 10 games every season for 3 straight years before making the playoffs, then a 6th team gets added in.
  • Here’s the good news for Bears fans: 4 of those 6 teams featured a young QB making a jump in play and thus leading his team to the playoffs for the first time. Those were the 2016 Oakland Raiders (Derek Carr, 3rd season), 2017 Tennessee Titans (Marcus Mariota, 3rd season), 2010 Detroit Lions (Matthew Stafford, 3rd season), and 2012 Washington Redskins (Robert Griffin III, 1st season). A 5th (2017 Jacksonville) featured a new coach that helped get better performance out of many players already on the roster.

– Lessons Learned –

Based on the last three years, history suggests they are not likely going to make the playoffs in 2018. A jump to respectability first is more likely and could set them up for a playoff run in 2019. If you want a really optimistic view, however, you could note that most teams who make a similar jump from bad to playoffs have either a young QB or a new coaching staff who make an impact, and the Bears could potentially have both of those.


Super Bowl

Of course, the ultimate goal has to be more than just making the playoffs. Let’s think big about what it might look like for the Bears to win a Super Bowl.

This time I looked only at Super Bowl participants since 2007. I looked at wins their previous three seasons, as well as how long it had been since they last suffered a losing season, and how many times they had made the playoffs in the three years prior to winning the Super Bowl. Full data can be seen here, and I want to look at each of those criteria 1 by 1.

 – Wins Over Previous 3 Seasons –

This chart below shows the number of teams that fall in various ranges of total wins in the 3 seasons prior to making the Super Bowl.

This shows clearly how far the Bears have to go before they can realistically be viewed as a Super Bowl contender (reminder: they’ve won 14 games the last three years). 20 out of 22 teams to play in the Super Bowl over the last 11 years – including all 11 winners – have won at least 24 games in the three seasons prior to winning the Super Bowl, meaning they have averaged at least an 8-8 record. The Bears would have to go 16-0 to reach that mark in 2018, or win a total of 19 games over the next two years to fit that profile going into the 2020 season.

Meanwhile, 12/22 teams – more than half – averaged 10+ wins a season in the three years before the season they made the Super Bowl. The typical Super Bowl participant is a team that has been consistently good for a stretch of years.

And I’ll note those two 18-win teams were the 2016 Falcons and 2008 Cardinals. They both lost close games and have yet to reach the Super Bowl again.

– Playoffs Previous 3 Seasons –

The table below shows how many times in the 3 years before playing in the Super Bowl teams made the playoffs.

Once again we see that the Bears have a ways to go before fitting the typical Super Bowl profile.

  • 16 of the 22 teams made the playoffs at least 2 of the prior 3 seasons to the year they won the Super Bowl.
  • Only 1 Super Bowl winner did so without making the playoffs at all the previous 3 years (thank you, 2017 Philadelphia Eagles), and they had won at least 7 games in each of those seasons.

Again we see that the Bears are at least one year away from being serious Super Bowl contenders, and most likely two years (in a best-case scenario).

– Time Since Last Losing Season –

The chart below shows the number of teams that fall in various ranges for how long it has been since their last winning season (“1 year” meaning they had a losing season the year before playing in the Super Bowl).

Once again we see that teams don’t just go from being bad to winning the Super Bowl. The 2017 Eagles are the only team to make a Super Bowl in the last 11 years off of a losing season, and even then they were 7-9, a mark the Bears haven’t touched since 2013. Half of the teams in Super Bowls over this stretch haven’t had a losing season in more than 3 years prior to playing in the Super Bowl.

There are a bunch of different ways to look at it, but we reach the same conclusion every time. Teams that make the Super Bowl have usually been consistently good for a while.


Lessons Learned

The first goal for the Bears has to be making the playoffs, and realistically that’s a long shot in 2018, though they do share some similarities with the few other teams who have bucked that trend. And even a best-case scenario has them at least one year, and most likely two, away from winning a Super Bowl.

Based on the patterns outlined above, the most realistic best-case scenario to lay out for the Bears would look something like this:

  • 2018: 8 or 9 wins
  • 2019: playoff berth
  • 2020: Super Bowl

A reckless optimist could say it’s possible they move that schedule up a year, but this is the most realistic ideal path to the Bears’ next Super Bowl title.

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  • SC Dave

    They need to move it up a year, so that they can win the title in the 100th season of the franchise.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Then we have to hit the first two picks out of the park in the draft.

      Methinks Nelson is taken before us, and the only guy I want to see drafted then is Edmunds.
      Take whoever the best 6’5 WR is in the second. Auden Tate looks interesting.

      • Bear Instincts

        I agree with you Irish

        1st round should defense and Edmunds is probably or best option

        2nd round i would go wr and then go back to the defense again again on 3rd.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Just as happy with Nelson though, they’re both stars. Edmunds might be a sexy pick for someone 4-7. 8 is probably where Nelson needs to go, although my gut says 10-12. The league might value LB higher and Edmunds goes first I think, leaving us Nelson.

          If Pace left Nelson on the board …. FML.

      • SC Dave

        Yup. There is much work to be done.

        You take Nelson over Edmunds? Pretty sure I do, because I want the nastiest OL imaginable and I really think Nelson’s attitude would rub off on the rest of them.

        To re-post that quote I put up last thread (emphasis mine):

        “As a blocker, my mindset is to dominate,” Nelson said. “I want to dominate all my opponents and take away their will to play the game.”

        • Bear Instincts

          Keeping Nelson at Guard gives us the best interior. But if we move him to Tackle we could possibly be elite consider we have Jordan Morgan as a potential Guard and HH to coach the line.

          All of this depends on Nelson being on the board at 8.

          Plus if we are going to pass on any of the 1st round Lineback’s we will be forced to find them in FA

          • Irish Sweetness

            This is why ditching Sitton was dumb. If you have Sitton and Kush/Long at guard, kick Nelson out to RT. That’s a line.

          • Bear Instincts

            sitton was probably too slow for Nagy’s scheme. plus pace wanted the team to be younger. Long is the oldest player on the team.

          • catfish44

            i don’t see nelson making it to #8. i see bears picking edmunds.

          • catfish44

            big white man vs big black man… give me that big black man all day. im getting excited just thinking about it.

          • catfish44

            bears need an edge rusher badly and that is where free agency is quite poor. edmunds or harold landry in the draft.

          • Bear Instincts

            Alex Okafor, DE, Saints. Age: 27
            Kony Ealy, DE/OLB, Jets. Age: 26
            Dion Jordan (RFA), DE, Seahawks. Age: 28
            Aaron Lynch, DE, 49ers. Age: 25

          • catfish44

            Kony Ealy (26), Jets
            Or could he be a Jerry Hughes type? The Patriots and Jets already took a chance on Ealy, and determined no. He’s hoping one more team will give it a shot. Alex Okafor (27), Saints
            He was having a career year in New Orleans before tearing his Achilles last November.——– https://www.si.com/nfl-free-agents-rankings-by-position-2018 your other two are not listed.

          • Bear Instincts

            Elay might work as a rotational piece instead of a starter.

            Maybe we should try to sign Shea McClellin….lol

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Watch it, you may get banned.

          • catfish44

            bears need an edge rusher badly and that is where free agency is quite poor. edmunds or harold landry in the draft.

          • catfish44

            bears need an edge rusher badly and that is where free agency is quite poor. edmunds or harold landry in the draft.

        • Irish Sweetness

          The tape on him speaks for itself. If you get excited about a guard then he probably needs to be on your team. That guy is a winner for your offense.

          But this is where you draw the line in the sand. Do you want a great defense or a great offense?

          If Nelson and Edmunds are there at 8 … who do you want to be?

          • SC Dave

            Exactly.

          • Bear Instincts

            If the addition of Edmunds will make the defense elite then go for Nelson to help MT10 get better

          • SC Dave

            I’m sure this has been posted but…

          • catfish44

            i’d take nelson, more of a sure thing. and, go for marcus davenport or harold landry later for an edge rusher.

      • catfish44

        edmunds looks great to me. auden tate had a quite poor combine.

      • Big Mike

        That’s a pretty good plan. But Cam Meredith is a pretty big guy. Maybe the best wr, wouldn’t limit myself to a tall one. Depending on how it breaks, I might like to see OL in rd 2. This really all depends on FA.

        What we can count on is the Bears will not invest in any OL in FA. So the draft is where that’s happening. Unless Pace picks up some castoffs closer to or during camp. Look for a bunch of OL UDFAs.

        FA looks to me to be the place to get some quality depth in FA for WR. I think we have our top WR. https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2016/10/18/13321360/chicago-bears-cameron-meredith-kevin-white-jacksonville-jaguars-indianapolis-colts-nfl-2016

    • Bear Instincts

      We would need the spirit of Papa Bear haunting the sidelines every Sunday.

      The learning curve of the WCO plus the holes on the defense make it very difficult for us to make the playoffs but not impossible.

      We all know we need at least 2 new wr’s to pair with meredith and k.white and inman. some to stretch the filed and threaten (a.robinson) the defense and a safety blanket (a.wilson) for MT10

      Pace needs to add more quality impact players over rotational depth. We need depth but impact players are just as important.

      Pay to keep fuller and the rest of the defense in tact.

      Find some (mo wilkerson) to give hicks a break so he can rest. Dontari po is also a FA and the dolphins might release suh…we have options

      Get some linebackers (aaron lynch and jeremiah attaochu) and edge rushers (dion jordan and kon ealy)

      And when the sb comes down to a field goal we need a kicker we can count on

      • SC Dave

        On that last point, the guy we had has hit 96% the last two seasons. Oops.

  • Bear Instincts

    How many games were we short of making 8-8 in each of the past 3 season’s?

    How many games did we lose in each of the last 3 season’s by 1 td or less?

    How would altering your data to account for these 2 variables affect our playoff outlook and best case scenario outlook overall?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Yeah Data, FFS. Sort it out.

  • catfish44

    HAROLD LANDRY, EDGE, BOSTON COLLEGE

    Landry’s performance on the field turf of Lucas Oil stadium turned the clock back to the outright dominant 2016 version of Harold Landry. The Boston College product — our No. 1-ranked edge defender — measured in at 6-foot-2 and 252 pounds. He dealt with injury issues in 2017, but when healthy his bend around the outside is so dangerous that offensive tackles want to get out of their stance quickly to wall him off on the outside. Unfortunately for many offensive tackles, Landry is even more deadly if given an inside rush lane in addition to the outside rush lane. The athleticism he shows on film showed up at the combine, with Landry’s 4.65 40-yard dash (with an astounding 1.59 10-yard split) and his explosive 36-inch vertical jump. Landry’s ridiculous three-cone time of 6.88 was a focus of Mike Renner’s examination of Landry’s combine. He has shown on film that he is an accomplished pass-rusher who can get to the quarterback in myriad ways and that was backed up by his combine performance.—————https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/draft-10-players-who-helped-themselves-at-the-combine

    • Irish Sweetness

      Tremaine ran a 4,54 though. And at Lac-proportions, he’s a freak. What I don’t like reading is that he has a slow processor, which would incline me to keep him at OLB and use him as our pass-rusher opposite Floyd – or imagine this – two 6’5 LBs double-blitzing the A-gap (I just came)!

      From NFL.COM:

      SOURCES TELL US “Good luck with your player comp on this one. They don’t come like him. I don’t think there has ever been a linebacker that has had his size and speed. You’re better off comping him with a basketball player.” — NFC regional scout

      • Bear Instincts

        hes young. 19 yrs old. he can be molded and shaped like clay into anything fangio wants…von miller comes to mind.

        this is a great break down of his game

      • catfish44

        from playing football, basketball, and fast pitch softball myself, you either have the instincts for the game or you don’t.

  • catfish44

    -https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/03/08/free-agency-players-teams-league-trend-mmqb-notebook———————-“I think it was Carl Banks who said it, talking about the Giants free agents,” recalled one AFC personnel exec this week. “You’re not just buying the free agent, you’re also buying the reason he’s a free agent.”

    • catfish44

      ryan pace has to do miles better in his free agent judgement this offseason. my big question – is allen robinson recovered sufficiently from his knee injury to be worth signing?

      • Bear Instincts

        he tore it 1st game of the season. reports say he should be ready by camp. but it would be best to let him rest until OTA’s. he in the same boat as C.Meredith

        • catfish44

          first. he has to be signed. we don’t really know if the bears are after him. and, the jaguars have until march 14th to sign him too. pace might be skittish about injuries given keving white and pernell mcphee. mcphee was injured before being signed by the bears just like allen robinson.

          • Bear Instincts

            Baltimore knew about McPhee’s injury that’s why they let him go. The Jags let Robinson go due to cap reasons.

          • catfish44

            mcphee a really poor signing. very good player with very bad knees who baltimore already knew about!!

  • Bear Instincts

    Will player age affect FA with Long being the oldest player on the team at the moment and Pace making moves that resemble a youth movement?

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Age always has an affect. With that said, if an older FA is miles ahead of the other options Pace should not let age keep him from signing them.

  • CanadaBear

    All of this sound reasonable JW. I never really think the Beloved are going to the SB (PTSD) but the playoffs have to at least be in the cards for any hope. I think they will be 8-8 this year with the arrow pointing up. Of course, all of this depends on Pace and FA/draft. With some good luck concerning injuries they could end up over .500 but I’m just not that optimistic.

    • Yeah I think 8-8 would be a great sign of progress this year

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        You know what else would be a great sign of progress this year………16-0!!!!

        • SC Dave

          When it happens, you get to say you called it first.

          • CanadaBear

            You and I will be sleeping in the ground before that happens!

  • AlbertInTucson

    My brain hurts.

    • CanadaBear

      I’m glad JW does the heavy lifting!

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Hangover?

      • AlbertInTucson

        Not since my bachelor party 37 years ago.

    • Bobby Douglass

      My brain always hurts. I will donate it.

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  • willbest

    I think the one-two punch of Trubisky-Nagy has created a lot of apathy in me for this offense. I can’t speak intelligently about any offensive move this team makes because I have no idea what the offensive strategy figures to be or what Trubisky’s strengths and limitations in that system will be. I am more or less along for the ride until about week 4 into the season when we can get a sense of the whole thing.

    And there isn’t a lot to say about Vic’s vision on D. It works well enough, especially against Aaron Rodgers when he has the players. So I hope we can get the players. But just looking down the FA list there isn’t anybody that stands out as must have. Lots of, would be nice, wait and see.

    • SC Dave

      A good summary of my feelings. I’m just not in a hurry to see us give up good, young players for the sake of “fit” to an offensive system that none of the players yet know.

      • Bear Instincts

        Olsen. Marts. Nuff Said

        • evantonio

          Olsen couldn’t carry Manamaneula’s jock!

          • CanadaBear

            I”m going more with wouldn’t than couldn’t!

    • Yeah, I’m sorta in Cargo mode myself (shrugs shoulders, lights cig). I’ll get excited IF Pace finally leaves Walmart and shops at a higher end store where the stuff doesn’t even have price tags on it.

      My hope w the D is if we finally get ballers (see above) , maybe the TOs will follow in spite of his system.

    • Irish Sweetness

      We know exactly what the strategy will be. The WCO, and it brings with it very possibly 2 or 3 years before they have it down. I think people are sleeping on this. How many of our players have played in a WCO?

      Guaranteed, for some time – Trubs will end up throwing a lot of balls where there are no receivers, and where there may be DBs. This will happen a lot. Receivers who don’t know their shit, and who have not had many reps with MT …. are going to hang him out to dry.

  • John F

    Isn’t it also true – statistically – that teams that have lost 10+ games in the prior three years are more likely to continue to lose 10+ games for the foreseable future?

  • Bear Instincts

    If Miami decides to cut Suh and eat the majority of his contract, they Miami would free up approximately $4 million in cap space this season and it would allow them to get out from the remaining $37 million on Suh’s contract. Should we go after Suh? Imagine a line made up of Suh, Wilkerson & Hicks?

    • They already have Goldman, Suh + Wilkerson would be redundant (and out of their price range anyway).

      • Bear Instincts

        The Seahawk’s blueprint was to build a dominant Defense while the Offense matured. The Ram’s are following the same blueprint this off-season. We only get MT10 this chap for a few years. We need to strike while the iron is hot.

        • John F

          You are assuming that Trub turns into a top-10 QB that will command $25+ mil per year. That’s a pretty dangerous assumption given how poorly he played last year. Rookie or not, bad receivers or not, he was well below average in terms of accuracy, footwork, decision making, playmaking, etc.

          • Bear Instincts

            Not assuming anything about MT10. A rookie QB contract is the best chance to win a SB unless the rookie QB becomes a top 10 QB. Last year was last year. We have a new coach and a new offensive concept. MT10 and the whole offense will be different this year. In general the WCO offense takes 3 years to get a handle on. We need a dominant Defense to hold the fort down while the O gets it’s act together.

          • John F

            Looking over the last fifteen years, virtually every Superbowl winning team had a veteran QB, not someone playing on a rookie QB contract.

        • They play about 2.5 guys on the DL. I’m all for bringing in a 3rd high quality player, and then having RRH and Bullard rotating in. That’s a good use of resources. Paying 4 big $$ is not.

    • Irish Sweetness

      In a hot slimy second. At the right price. He’s better than Eddie.

  • Thanks for the spiffy new picture, Jeff!

  • Bear Instincts

    Mike Evans just signed a 5-year, $82.5 million extension with $55 million guaranteed. His 16.5mil a season just made A.Robinson and A.Wilson more expensive.

    • willbest

      Albert Wilson is not made more expensive by a top 10 WR getting a top 10 contract. Albert Wilson would be lucky to get a Wheaton level contract.

      Allen Robinson might have gotten a little bit more expensive but nobody is going to give a guy coming off a season ending injury and hasn’t done anything to impress in 2 years. He shouldn’t even get Jeffery money.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Albert Wilson is medically speaking, a midget. The dude is 5’9. We can’t afford a midget?

  • Bear Instincts

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/03/09/dolphins-trade-jarvis-landry-to-browns/

    Dolphins trade Jarvis Landry to Browns for a pick in 2018 and another in 2019.

    • willbest

      I wonder what deal he agreed to. It would be so Browns to not be able to lock him into a long term deal though.

      • Juan Stone

        Nobody goes to Cleveland without getting a bucket full of money do they?

    • Irish Sweetness

      A 4th and a 7th, Jebus H Sheist.

  • Malice Halice

    Not even Wednesday n we seeing top ranked guys fly off the shelf. Like I keep tellin u guys. Expect Pace to make some trades or absolutely nothing at all. Wow

  • BuddhaJoe

    You want some laughs go read the comments on the NBC Sports article about the Landry trade. People talking like the Browns are suddenly gonna be a contender. Yes the team that just went 0-16 is totally gonna challenge with a new slot receiver and some draft picks. SMFH.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Gordon is back also. They take Barkley in the draft and a QB, that O might be pretty good. And they just traded for Tyrod Taylor from buffalo.

      • BuddhaJoe

        First of all it’s a team that just went 0-16 so even if they nail everything they still have a ways to go to be competitive.

        Second, it’s the fucking Browns.

        • Malice Halice

          Was going to argue but I just looked at their schedule, SHEESH! They ain’t makin da playoffs, let alone win 8 games. The schedule is the only reason I will agree with u.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          Man, I agree. Tyrod Taylor and Jarvis Landry plus some putz CB. I don’t see that making them relevant at all.

          And you can bet your mortgage, whatever QB they take early, is going to suck balls. Especially, so when they put him in with that 0-16 staff and culture.

          Browns gonna Brown.

          • CanadaBear

            I think they will be better but even a 5-win increase only gets them to 5-11.

    • Malice Halice

      You sound like a hater. They’re gonna do better than us at the rate they’re heading. Bland n blind Bland n a blind this offseason.

      • BuddhaJoe

        Jesus Christ.

        • Malice Halice

          Wait till Wednesday my man. True colors shall shine!

      • SC Dave

        FFS stop. Damn, you’ve been posting some stupid shit the last two weeks.

      • Irish Sweetness

        In fairness, if they’re not better than us with all of those draft picks and cash, and the RB they’re about to get …. then something is definitely rotten in Cleveland.

    • Irish Sweetness

      They’ll have pieces in place, but they still need to beef that OL up to be able to run behind.

      And then to be a contender the year after this, they’ll need a decent QB. They might be a common sight in the playoffs soon, without that QB to take them over the top. It is Cleveland.

  • Juan Stone

    Somebody really love’story his Bears football. Lol

    Still, nice PhD dissertation Data. Hee hee

  • BerwynBomber

    BUF trades Taylor to CLE for 3rd round pick.

    • That’s smart. Now they can draft Barkley #1 overall, wait and see if their QB falls to #4 , and if not, draft Chubb and wait for next draft to land a QB.

      Edit. Tho 3rd seems a lil steep

      • BerwynBomber

        Agreed. And a couple points of context.

        Heard/read that someone in the CLE F.O. (might have been the GM or Veep) has major wood for Mayfield. So the Taylor trade is not only extra security but may allow them to trade down and still get their rook QB.

        Who knows? Given that BUF would presumably be looking to draft a QB too, maybe CLE will be trading again with them come draft week.

        Barkley looks like the goods but I do wonder about taking an RB, even a 3 down back (and then some) first overall in today’s NFL. Yeah other 3 down RBs like Bell and Zeke are amazing and deserve all their praise, but RB almost seems like a luxury position, especially if you have a solid triggerman.

        Plus, the one question I’ve heard raised about Barkely is that he is more a home-run guy than a 25 times a game banger.

        I don’t think he will be a bust, but if you could guarantee me both Barkley and Chubb weren’t can’t miss guys I might lean Chubb.

        • Malice Halice

          Chubbs and Myles would be a frightening duo! Barkeley is good security blanket for a rookie QB or even a vet learning the new system so who knows.

        • leftcoastdave

          With Tyrod and a rookie, I think they want to get Saquon back there. Just MHO.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Tyrod will be delivering the snap to Mr. Barkley 30+ times a game and throwing his usual fifteen passes.

        • BenderMcLugh

          Barkley should be used as a WR in the slot it and on go routes too, dual threat

      • leftcoastdave

        A third to relieve the Bills of $18m. Rather like Ostweiler from Houston except they also gave up a pick.

      • Irish Sweetness

        They won’t need a QB if they draft Barkley, and they should be laying bricks on that OL if they’re getting him.

        Should we be plundering Corey Coleman, Rashard Higgins et al? What about Gary Barnidge?

    • CaponeBot 1.0

      Cleveland making moves. Vet Qb, safety valve WR to move the chains, keep drafting D and voila!!!!!! Back to relevancy in 2 yes.
      No fucking way Cleveland takes saquon now. They will trade back a bit late to stockpile or will take Chubb.

      Expect them to stack that fucking D in FA and draft.
      #Jaguars style
      #Costner style

      • BenderMcLugh

        To me this guarantees S. Barkley as their first pick

        • CaponeBot 1.0

          They need more black man meat mountains so expect them to act like they want the guy that teams 2-7 want and they either trade back and get more beef or will pull the trigger on a straight up killer at pick number 1.

  • BerwynBomber

    GB trades Randall (CB) to CLE for Kizer (QB) and a swap of their fourth and fifth round draft slots.

    • CanadaBear

      Does this spell the end for Hundley? The CB had 4 picks last year but I don’t watch the Fudge enough to remember him.

      • BerwynBomber

        Randall sucks but was playing better near the end of their year. (A couple of his picks were right place/right time deflections.)

        Even with him the Cheese had arguably the worst group of CBs in the league. So it is confusing move.

        And yes, Hundley sucks, but so does Kizer.

        P.S. As Waffle noted, gotta hand it to CLE. They are having one crazy as fuck Friday and gotta say I like all three of their moves.

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  • Irish Sweetness

    Cleveland making more moves than a MFer – in the Stephen King vernacular.

    I wonder how’ll they’ll fuck this up with 5 picks in the first two rounds.

  • catfish44

    a very good collection of tapes on tremaine edmunds and discussion on his youth and rawness. not close to being ready for the NFL immediately, but still with potential for the future with intense training to be an NFL linebacker. quite risky. great potential. poor instincts. as one who played football, basketball, and fast pitch softball, i always believe you either has instincts for your game. or not. but, the bears do have excellent defensive coaches.bust, or great potential? a real long shot here. but, the bears REALLY, REALLY need an edge rusher. so?? ———https://youtu.be/4oTjfbxn3Ng

    • Irish Sweetness

      Then you make a move for Chubb, draft Arden Key … but that’s my worry with Edmunds. You can’t coach instinct. It’s there or it isn’t. Can he learn to be in the right position? Yes. With time. Can he learn what to do when the ball is snapped? He can better at moving while thinking, and not doing the stutter-step, he can do that.

      If it was a toss-up between Nelson and Edmunds, I think I take Nelson because of that CPU.

      Or do you look at the fact the kid is only 19 and give him a break and thank your lucky stars you were in a position to draft him? Ryan Pace will decide. And if he drafts somebody else …. I will shit down his neck.

      • catfish44

        as i said lack of instinct………therefore i wouldn’t draft edmunds. i don’t feel he will every fulfill his physical talents. arden key, i just doubt he is worth going after at all.chubb is definitely worth it, but the bears would have to give up a lot to move up to get him. that’s quite risky with all their holes. they have a LOT to fix. i do like harold landry or marcus davenport later, not at #8, if available.so, i doubt nelson will make it to #8. edmunds too risky, so who? not a wide receiver i hope. minkah fitzpatrick or denzel ward.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I haven’t bothered checking out any of the safeties. I’d be shocked if Pace drafted a safety at 8, but I wouldn’t cry.

          • catfish44

            but one. minkah fitzpatrick is more than a safety.

            Film Room: Why Minkah Fitzpatrick is a defender every NFL team covets

            Minkah Fitzpatrick is the top defensive back in the upcoming draft.

            If you listen hard enough, you can hear the sound of 32 NFL defensive coordinators cajoling their general manager to find any way possible to grab Minkah Fitzpatrick in the upcoming draft.

            Fitzpatrick is not merely the best defensive player in the class, he’s an embodiment of the evolution of the sport; near-positionless defensive maestros, built to stop the rise of pace-and-space offensive concepts.

            Positional versatility is the name of the game. Football is a matchup sport. The NFL is moving more than ever pre-snap — shifting and motioning — in a bid to reveal coverages and create mismatches. Offensive principles are now based on the skills of blazing speedsters in space (agility, not just top-end speed), polar bears masquerading as tight ends, and guys with hops that we’re used to seeing compete in a dunk content, not on a football field.

            Matching up with that is virtually impossible. Ask a staff how it will defend the trio of Travis Kelce, Kareem Hunt and Tyreek Hill, from the same personnel package, and they will blush. Pray?

            There’s little you can do when a team can flex its back, tight end, or stud wide receiver to any and every spot on the field: split out, isolated on the backside of the formation, in the backfield, or in-line. Everyone can take-up multiple positions, and the offense has that age-old advantage of knowing what it’s doing before the ball is snapped.

            Offensive movement forces defensive communication, the quickest way to miscommunication.

            A defense must find guys who can line up in multiple spots, or a series of defenders who are comfortable covering whichever dude lines up in front of them — mitigating much of the effect of motioning or shifting. Those creatures don’t grow on trees.

            Fitzpatrick represents a rare opportunity to land such a unicorn.

            Watch an Alabama game, and you see Fitzpatrick play anywhere and everywhere: He will line up in the slot, his designated position; as a middle-of-the-field safety; as the spinner in a two-man tandem, rotating late towards the line of scrimmage or helping split the field in half; as a traditional box safety; as a boundary corner; as a dime linebacker; as an edge defender; and in any number of funky and wonderful blitz alignments.———–https://www.seccountry.com/alabama/minkah-fitzpatrick-nfl-draft-2018-analysis

          • catfish44

            no safety, except one. of course, taking him would depend on who falls in front of the eighth pick.
            Film Room: Why Minkah Fitzpatrick is a defender every NFL team covets

            Minkah Fitzpatrick is the top defensive back in the upcoming draft.

            If you listen hard enough, you can hear the sound of 32 NFL defensive coordinators cajoling their general manager to find any way possible to grab Minkah Fitzpatrick in the upcoming draft.

            Fitzpatrick is not merely the best defensive player in the class, he’s an embodiment of the evolution of the sport; near-positionless defensive maestros, built to stop the rise of pace-and-space offensive concepts.

            Positional versatility is the name of the game. Football is a matchup sport. The NFL is moving more than ever pre-snap — shifting and motioning — in a bid to reveal coverages and create mismatches. Offensive principles are now based on the skills of blazing speedsters in space (agility, not just top-end speed), polar bears masquerading as tight ends, and guys with hops that we’re used to seeing compete in a dunk content, not on a football field.

            Matching up with that is virtually impossible. Ask a staff how it will defend the trio of Travis Kelce, Kareem Hunt and Tyreek Hill, from the same personnel package, and they will blush. Pray?

            There’s little you can do when a team can flex its back, tight end, or stud wide receiver to any and every spot on the field: split out, isolated on the backside of the formation, in the backfield, or in-line. Everyone can take-up multiple positions, and the offense has that age-old advantage of knowing what it’s doing before the ball is snapped.

            Offensive movement forces defensive communication, the quickest way to miscommunication.

            A defense must find guys who can line up in multiple spots, or a series of defenders who are comfortable covering whichever dude lines up in front of them — mitigating much of the effect of motioning or shifting. Those creatures don’t grow on trees.

            Fitzpatrick represents a rare opportunity to land such a unicorn.

            Watch an Alabama game, and you see Fitzpatrick play anywhere and everywhere: He will line up in the slot, his designated position; as a middle-of-the-field safety; as the spinner in a two-man tandem, rotating late towards the line of scrimmage or helping split the field in half; as a traditional box safety; as a boundary corner; as a dime linebacker; as an edge defender; and in any number of funky and wonderful blitz alignments. ————https://www.seccountry.com/alabama/minkah-fitzpatrick-nfl-draft-2018-analysis

  • Big Mike

    For all the hoopla around going big in FA, there is this cautionary tale

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/03/09/ndamukong-suh-miami-dolphins-release-free-agency-themmqb-newsletter

    • catfish44

      certainly free agency very risky. but, the jaguars did quite well with it this year, along with their draft. there have been a lot more trades this year too. maybe the preferred system is changing.

      • Big Mike

        Spending huge on one player is what is risky. Suh’s cap hit is $26 million this year. Teams are getting smarter and locking up their players before they hit FA. Using the Franchise and Transition tag more often and even taking back low round draft picks with a year or so on the player’s contract. The system is changing.

        • catfish44

          you’re right about one player spending, besides QB and, players need, and deserve to get paid, just like the rest of us when we are very good at what we do. that is. at the same time, pace needs to spend more. bears will never win much with the lack of difference makers/ elite players they now have. pace has to get better at it.

        • leftcoastdave

          Another reason the Harry hire was so YUGE.
          You’ve got five of your 22 starters in the OL or just under 22% of your core team now being coached up and developed by the best in the business. (not to mention the TEs) Similarly, you have a ton of talent coming into the league as raw materials to be polished up.
          Right now if you base it on the numbers, who do you say was the best OL draft pick in da Bears OL based upon both performance and value? Kyle is great when healthy, but also expensive based on being both a high pick and his current salary of $9m. Leno on the other hand was a 7th round pick and has played most every snap at the toughest position in the line. He’s getting just under $6m this year going to almost $9m next year. Before cutting Sitton, we had over $30mil going out in that unit. (Right now, Whitehair only gets $1.15m.)
          Why did Willie Sutton rob banks?
          Guess who pays the least to their O line in the league? Yup. The Pats. The Viqueen are at 28 and da Bears in the middle at 17.
          Churn that group with youngsters trained up by the best and we will see value coming back in trades or picks.
          Smart.

          • Irish Sweetness

            The Pats could have used an O-line in the SB …

          • Big Mike

            Patriot’s O-Line Coach, Dante
            Scarnecchia has been in that position for 33 years. My opinion, you need a mix of salty veterans and young guys. You need an Olin Kreutz or Kyle Long. Kyle Long is the leader of this group. His injuries stem from being mangled and continuing to play. This offseason, I have a feeling he is finally going to get the chance to heal.

    • leftcoastdave

      Spotted this little nugget for the first time:

      “Longtime offensive line coach Dante Scarnecchia appears poised to remain on staff for his 33rd season in Foxborough.”
      Says quite a bit I would say.

      • Irish Sweetness

        He’s got serious dirt on someone.

  • CanadaBear

    MNF will have a new booth. Chucky is gone and Sean McDonough will be doing college games going forward. Hope they get a couple of decent announcers. I thought McDonough was kinda boring but I didn’t mind him at all.

    • BerwynBomber

      Interesting.

      Didn’t mind McDonough much either but he seemed a tad over his head.

      The only #1 play-by-play guy I don’t get is Nantz. Why does CBS think he is the cat’s pajamas for every sport they televise? He’s a golf announcer.

      Oh, and I do think Michaels is a legend. Helluva raconteur too if you’ve ever heard/seen him interviewed. Tirico will have some huge shoes to fill once Michaels retires.

      • CanadaBear

        I like Michaels, too. Although I gotta admit the last broadcast they didn’t have a great game. All the catch/no catch BS was beyond boring. I think Al is amazing considering he’s got Collinsworth and he’s about million years old. I was never sure what Nantz was good at but I’ve always found him boring as hell. Although, I’ll take that over bombast any day of the week.

        • AlbertInTucson

          I don’t have a gripe about Michaels, or even Collinsworth, but that debate made them both look ignorant.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Tirico looks like a guy that has a shoe/foot fetish so he will probably relish trying to fill those shoes.

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog Don’t understand Packers giving up a starting CB on a defense-needy team for a player they hope never ever sees the field in a regular season game.”

    Agreed. Seems like good news for us.

    That said, getting a heavy dose of televised Cheese games here in Chicago, I don’t think Randall was any better than, say, Cre’von LeBlanc. (And for those ever complaining about our CBs, check out the Cheese’s the last two years; makes our squad look like the No Fly Zone.)

    Kizer seems like another Hundley. So gotta believe for the Cheese it was all about moving up in those two rounds.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Packers are supposed to be in the Richard Sherman hunt.

      • BerwynBomber

        Good luck with that.

        A 30 year old CB coming off a torn Achilles? Yeeesh …

        • AlbertInTucson

          Worse. I heard this week on MOVIN’THE CHAINS that he’d had work done on BOTH of them.

          • CanadaBear

            The way everyone slobbers all over Lynch, if this goes South (I hope), you know the media will make it out like that horrible Sherman took advantage of Mr Wonderful.

  • BerwynBomber

    CLE trades Shelton (DT) and a 5th round pick to NE for their 3rd round pick.

    CLE has now made four trades in two days.

    • willbest

      Maybe the GM gets a bonus for every trade he makes. Propers for his novel approach. Doubt it will fix the factory of sadness.

      • BerwynBomber

        I didn’t understand bringing Hue Jackson back. I can’t imagine any HC being any good after going 1-31, no matter the personnel.

        But I like most of these moves and think Taylor and Landry will really help their O.

        Could see them winning five or six games next year, which is a huge jump after 1-31.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Win 6 games and Hue Jackson will be a legend in Cleveland. They will build statues of him, change street names, and 1000s of kids will be named Hue.

        • SC Dave

          Were he white, he’d have been fired for sure

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            I don’t think that has anything to do with it. Cleveland is not exactly known for it’s tolerance.

      • CanadaBear

        The previous GM that made the last two years possible is also responsible for all the draft picks built up. He went in and cleaned house. Not saying he did great or anything but give him credit for ripping the band aid off. I’m guessing the new GM will grab a QB with one of those two picks. If not, there they go again!

  • BerwynBomber

    Joe Tessitore replaces McDonough on MNF. Tessitore is the classic big voice guy. Solid, I suppose. I remember him mainly as teamed with Teddy Atlas to call ESPN’s Friday Night Fights.

    • CanadaBear

      Kinda, sorta remember him on the fights.

      Have you see Vergil Ortiz Jr. fight? Wow! 19, fights like he’s 10 years older and when they interviewed him he sounded the same. Humble, smart and super motivated (and super confident in a low-key manner). I saw him on Showtime in the last month or so. Watch out for that young man, he’s going places.

      http://www.goldenboypromotions.com/en/fighter/vergil-ortiz-jr

      • BerwynBomber

        I’ll keep an eye out. I haven’t been following as much as in the past, but maybe I’ll check out some YouTube and ESPN3 replays the next couple of months.

        • CanadaBear

          I linked the last one above. Short and sweet. The opponent has been in with some good fighters and going in people thought he would provide a test for the young man.

    • CanadaBear

      Here’s the fight I saw the other day.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah, he looks his impressive. Check his birth certificate. 😉

        Who is doing the color on ESPN now? Was that Hopkins?

        Funny thing about Atlas is he is kinda boxing’s answer to Gruden. Super smart and informative but can lay on the shtick too much.

        • CanadaBear

          Yeah, that was Bernard Hopkins. Considering his age, he’s amazing. Those body shots hurt from the couch.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Defended his belt for ten years, didn’t he?

          • CanadaBear

            B-Hop just stopped fighting recently. He was 50 for his last fight.

      • EnderWiggin

        That Ortiz dude put his entire weight behind every punch. If he can do that for five or six rounds, he’ll beat the shit out of anyone.

        • CanadaBear

          His punches were loud. Some of those body shots, I’m surprised the guy didn’t just drop to a knee. Impressive young man.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Hey C-Bear, word is GSP v McGregor might be happening at 165!

        BTW – just watched that fight too … right now ….. it didn’t take long. Ortiz is a savage. It’s in every punch.

        • CanadaBear

          I don’t really like MMA. Just never got into it. Old school (what a surprise). I’d have to assume GSP vs McGregor would be a huge moneymaker.

    • SC Dave

      What’s crazy awesome is I *so* don’t give I shit, because I always use the best button in the history of mankind – mute,

    • AlbertInTucson

      I never had an issue with McDonough.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    I am curious about the Bills trading Tyrod. They can’t be sold on Peterman. They do have a lot of picks in the first couple rounds of the draft. I would bet they are going to be making a huge trade up to get a QB. I wonder how high they are going to try and trade up to.

    • Irish Sweetness

      How can they be so consistently bad at drafting QBs? With all those high picks! And they could have had either Watson or Trubs last season. I don’t get it.

  • Bear Instincts

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/03/10/former-bear-cardinal-chris-gedney-dies-at-47/
    Former Bear’s TE who died this week Chris Gedney’s career was marked by injuries, including a broken collarbone, a broken leg and a stress fracture in his foot, all of which caused him to miss significant playing time.

    • AlbertInTucson

      47 years old.

      Yikes.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Oh man, hope it’s not CTE.

  • BerwynBomber

    SF signs Richard Sherman (CB) to a three year deal.

    • BenderMcLugh

      Shit

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

        Meh. He’ll be thirty this month and blew his Achilles last fall. Maybe he returns to form but I doubt it.

        The last thing we need is the Pernell McPhee version of a CB.

  • BenderMcLugh

    Year yadda football.

    Lest we forget how incredibly talented Amy Winehouse is
    https://youtu.be/gUxuCSQsgYU

    • CanadaBear

      It was sad watching her lose her grip on reality. Lost so many rockers when I was growing up you can see it coming.

      • Irish Sweetness

        The documentary ‘Amy’ was excellent.

        Alcohol was not her friend, and Heroin is nobody’s.

        But as a father you need to bury no-mark boyfriends like Blake Fielder-Civil. Alive.

        • CanadaBear

          Totally agree but if it wasn’t for Blake she would have found someone just like him.

          If you watch the movie Festival Express (highly recommended) you see all of these rockers from the ’60’s and the hardest partiers are all dead at a young age. If you don’t know the story of the movie, a promoter had the idea to book a bunch of acts, start out in Toronto and take the show West by train. Somewhere between Winnipeg and Saskatoon they drank the train dry! All of these rockers were druggies for the most part but being in Canada they didn’t bring their stuff with them. Janis is drinking like a longshoreman (but she was used to it). This song is from that movie. While technically not a great singer she put more emotion into her performances than almost anyone. Not exactly a shock she died young. You just can’t give away a piece of yourself every night without it taking its toll.

    • leftcoastdave

      Good stuff, Bender, thanks.

  • catfish44

    On the Eve of Free Agency, the Cautionary Tale of Suh

    The NFL New Year comes next week, but it’s not time to celebrate yet. Before we can enjoy the promise of new beginnings, we get a slow undoing of past forays—a string of reminders that many moves ultimately end in regret. Since Monday​, a Legion has been disbanded and a No-Fly Zone dissolved, as well as a dozen other deals nullified as teams part ways with former stars. And in Miami, the ultimate act of amends looms over the Dolphins.

    Three years after signing Ndamukong Suh to the biggest ever contract for a defensive player (six years, $114 million), Miami is reportedly considering cutting the defensive tackle. “At this point, the Dolphins are trying to determine whether a Suh restructuring (if Suh is willing) or a release is the better option,” Barry Jackson reports in the Miami Herald. “The least appealing option is keeping his cap hit at $26.1 million for next season.” Suh has played well in his three seasons as a Dolphin, but they finished 16th, 29th and 25th in yards allowed, going a combined 22-26 with zero playoff wins. And Suh has lasted longer in Miami than did the recipients of the next three biggest free agent deals in the winter of 2015—Darrelle Revis (Jets), Jeremy Maclin (Chiefs) and Julius Thomas (Jaguars).

    By my math, no player has ever won a Super Bowl after going elsewhere for a $100 million deal (and only three players, Drew Bledsoe, Fletcher Cox and Ben Roethlisberger, have won a ring playing on a nine-figure contract.) So enjoy a weekend of free agency speculation, but remember, Jan. 2 always comes. Just ask the Dolphins.

    ——————-https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/03/09/ndamukong-suh-miami-dolphins-release-free-agency-themmqb-newsletter

    • catfish44

      richard sherman signed with 49ers 4 months after achilles surgery (usually a tough injury to rehab from) allen robinson rumored going to the 49ers also. they also resigned WR marquise goodwin.

    • Irish Sweetness

      How the hell does a DT ever have a cap hit of twenty six million dollars?

  • Irish Sweetness

    Don’t sleep on the Bills. Five picks in the first 65!

    • leftcoastdave

      Six picks in the first three rounds! Those first five are worth 2575 on the chart and da Bears first two worth 1910. One trade down scenario would be giving up the 8 for the 21 plus two more seconds and a the top third (53, 56 and 65. That gives the Bills keep two firsts, 8 and 22 along with a third at 96.
      And the Bills now need a QB in the draft.

      • SC Dave

        Sounds like a bad trade for the Bills, unless they really think they need to draft a top QB. Maybe they don’t like this year’s class, and will get by until next year, perhaps picking up someone in rounds 4-7 to develop?

        • leftcoastdave

          If their guy is still on the board at 8, I would think we could get more than that from them. Just depends upon who they target and whether they feel heat from competition. But it would be a dream situation if da Bears could have 21, 39, 53, 56 and 65 as well as two in the fourth, a fifth, sixth and seventh.

          • SC Dave

            Will never happen.

      • Big Mike

        Or hold the pick hostage and make an uneven trade.

        • leftcoastdave

          Absolutely. From your lips to God’s ears!
          I want to see a CB drafted relatively high and another down the board as well as a QB down the board. We need to be drafting the money players, not trying to buy them in FA with the plan of developing trade bait.

          • Big Mike

            If Minkah Fitzpatrick or Denzel ward are there at 8, you can’t trade back. You have to take them.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Would the Browns have given us the first pick and another high pick for MT?

    • leftcoastdave

      Give them the 8 and MT for their 1 and 4? Get Saquon first and trade JH for more draft capital? Get another new QB to train up?
      That what you have in mind, Irish?

      • Irish Sweetness

        A shot at a stud RB is sexy. They can a hire a Joe Veteran to run the WCO. I wish the kid well, he looks good, but Pace is tied to him forever, not me.

  • Irish Sweetness

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000920306/article/deon-cain-among-wrs-trending-up-after-nfl-scouting-combine

    Steve Smith’s trending WRs in the draft. Kevin White’s brother anyone?

    • CanadaBear

      One’s enough!

  • Big Mike

    @disqus_DztgdNPsoy:disqus@Irish_Sweetness:disqus@sahrgborie:disqus@fishingflorida:disqus@disqus_VflnEF2dAa:disqus@johnathanwood:disqus @AlbertInTucson:disqus @bobbydouglass:disqus @willbest:disqus

    Sorry to tag everyone but I wanted opinions. You guys all have strong ones. So we see a lot of talk about how the draft could fall the Bears way. A run on QBs, A top QB sitting their at 8 so the Bears could trade back, etc. What are the worst case scenarios for the Bears in the draft? Not focused on who they pick, but looking at how the 7 picks in front of them break. No oddball, or lopsided scenarios. Packer’s get #1 pick from Cleveland for Brett Hundley or something like that.

    • leftcoastdave

      Ok, I’ll be the first to go out on a limb and say that the worst case scenario is not trading back for more picks.
      I do not see any one game changing player unless it is Saquon Barkeley. So I just talked myself into the worst case being Saquon getting in Rogers backfield.
      But we need at OLB, ILB, Edge, CB and a 6’5″ WR for Irish and I want to see as many of them as possible drafted in the top 100. That will require a trade back or giving up players in trade for picks, players we do not want to give up.

      • Big Mike

        Trade backs are very hard to come by.

        • leftcoastdave

          Yep, this year has lots of potential for it with so much need for QBs, Saquon and Chub being real game changers and others with their PON having a good option on the board sitting ahead of us.
          Hope for more draft capital springs eternal.
          I think with HH we can begin to create it starting next year. Develop youngsters for that OL and we will have pieces to trade for draft capital.

      • Irish Sweetness

        We can get the big receiver in 2, but I just can’t see Pace doing it.

    • CanadaBear

      My worst case scenario will never happen but nobody drafting QB’s in the first 7 picks and nobody looking to move up. The Beloved have enough holes that I’m not really tied to any one player. I like Nelson and Edmunds but I literally have never seen either of them play. I just hope they get a difference maker at a position of need.

    • catfish44

      worst case, we don’t draft a giant athletic black man with an enormous co….no thats what i want.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Brilliant insight….

    • SC Dave

      To be lazy, my worst case scenario is we trade down and then draft a worthless WR with our #1 that we could have used on Nelson or Edmunds.

      • Irish Sweetness

        He drafts Ka’Raun White …. there.

    • willbest

      I fear that BPA doesn’t fill a hole. Basically 2015 where we had Jeffery, royal, and wilson at WR, which admittedly wasn’t that strong, but a hell of a lot better than any defensive unit we had.

      To that end i consider a trade back a catastrophe in the making because it implies that Pace is willing to forfeit the choice between a half dozen top ranked talents and is willing to settle for what is left in exchange for a 2nd round lotto ticket

      • Big Mike

        We’ve got enough holes that there will be a match. Pace needs to line up FA to complement his draft board

    • AlbertInTucson

      Honored to be tagged, Big Mike.

      Hard, for me anyway, to figure a “worst case”, since every mock I see has the Bears taking somebody different.

      Things clear a little, maybe, after the FA frenzy…?

      • Big Mike

        FA will tell a lot. Definitely a seller’s market. A lot of bad teams (like the Bears), with cap room chasing a mediocre free agent class. My projection is the Bears go WR in FA. The question is are they going top end like Sammy Watkins, or Mid tier like Wilson from KC, or all of the above. Who they chase and who they land could be a big difference. Here’s to the Bears adding 4 starters in FA.

    • Irish Sweetness

      If Cleveland pass up on Saquon Barkley in order to acquire more picks to piss away ….

      • Big Mike

        How would that play out to be bad. Barkley will still be gone by the time the Bears get there.

  • leftcoastdave

    Eric Lambert throwing another one up against the wall I like at Edge/OLB.

    Nate Orchard. A low cost project with upside.

    https://sportsmockery.com/2018/03/another-way-bears-exploit-browns-fire-sale/

  • BenderMcLugh

    Bauhaus Sunday night. Have a great week gents

    https://youtu.be/YtLlmrrCajA

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  • Irish Sweetness

    Worst case is a likely case. Dig this.

    Nelson and Edmunds are gone by 8. Pace reaches on a WTF? pick.

    Worse still …

    Either one or the other – or both – are on the board, and he drafts neither. That would have to be the worst.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Does Wilkerson visiting the Chiefs and Redskins mean we’re signing him?

    • BenderMcLugh

      Probably hopefully

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