Data Entry: Projecting Contracts For Possible Receiver Targets

| February 27th, 2018

In the last two weeks, I’ve outlined both what the Bears need to add at WR this off-season and what players in free agency should fit that profile/the new offense. At the end of that work, I came up with the following two lists, suggesting that the Bears work to sign one player from each group.

Tier 1 (750+ yard receivers)

Marqise Lee, Jordan Matthews, Mike Wallace, Emmanuel Sanders (if cut)

Tier 2 (500+ yard receivers)

Albert Wilson, Kendall Wright, John Brown, Taylor Gabriel, Paul Richardson, Jaron Brown

Now I want to look at what types of contracts those players should expect in free agency to see how expensive these moves would likely be for the Bears. In order to do that, you need to compare the contracts signed by similar players (in both age and past production) who hit free agency in recent years. This gives you a general baseline for the ballpark a new contract should probably be in, though of course there are no guarantees this is exactly how it works out.

In an effort to be as accurate as possible, I also accounted for inflation, since the cap keeps going up every year. It’s jumped by about $10 million a year every year since 2015, and is expected to do the same again this year. Thus the comparable contracts were multiplied by the following scaling factors to get the predicted value, depending on when they were signed (some slight adjustments were made for greater/worse production):

  • 2015: 1.24
  • 2016: 1.15
  • 2017: 1.07

Let’s look through each target 1 by 1, with a few brief comments. Full data for production of targets and free agent contracts can be seen here. All contract information is from Spotrac.

Marqise Lee

Comparable deal: Marvin Jones (5 years, $40M, $13M guaranteed, signed in 2016)

Projected contract: 5 years, $46M, $15M guaranteed

For my money, Lee should be Chicago’s #1 target at WR this offseason. He’s been consistently solid as a WR2 for the last two years, much like Jones was before leaving Cincinnati for Detroit in 2016. Both will be 26 when the deal is signed, and the duo’s production was almost identical in their final two seasons of their rookie deal (though Jones did have more touchdowns). Jones has taken off with better quarterback play in Detroit, and I think Lee could do the same in Chicago.

Jordan Matthews

Comparable Deal: Mohamed Sanu (5 years, $34.5M, $14M guaranteed, signed in 2016)

Projected Contract: 5 years, $40M, $15M guaranteed

Matthews and Sanu also share many similarities in their production through the tail end of their rookie contracts. Both seemed to have established themselves as solid WR2s in their third season before falling off dramatically in year 4 and entering free agency on a low note. That knocked Sanu’s price down a bit from what Marvin Jones got, but he still got a solid long-term deal. I expect Jordan Matthews should fare similarly, but bumped his total money up a bit because he had 3 years of solid production prior to his down 2017 season. Sanu only had 1.

Mike Wallace

Comparable Deal: Ted Ginn (3 years, $11M, $3M guaranteed, signed in 2017)

Comparable Deal: Brandon Marshall (2 years, $11M, $5M guaranteed, signed in 2017)

Projected Contract: 3 years, $14M, $5M guaranteed

Ted Ginn signed his contract in free agency entering his age 32 season and coming off of back-to-back years of right around 750 yards. Brandon Marshall was 33 and had just dropped from 1500 yards to around 750. Mike Wallace is entering his age 32 season and coming off a 748 yard season. This is the market for guys like Wallace, though I’m sure he’ll start out looking for more money.

Emmanuel Sanders

Comparable Deal (low): Jeremy Maclin (2 years, $11M, $6M guaranteed, signed in 2017)

Comparable Deal (high): Pierre Garcon (5 years, $47.5M, $17M guaranteed, signed in 2017)

Projected Contract: 3 years, $27M, $15M guaranteed

Assuming he gets cut by Denver, Sanders is an interesting case. He’s 31 years old and coming off a down season, with only 555 yards, but he was rock solid for several years before that, and the Broncos didn’t exactly have an ideal QB situation last year. His drop in production from several straight good years to around 500 yards echoes Jeremy Maclin’s quite strongly before he hit free agency last year. Maclin had a good QB situation, so the factors aren’t exactly the same, but Maclin was also 2 years younger, which worked in his favor. I think that’s a low end for Sanders’ market this offseason.

On the high end, we see Pierre Garcon, who signed a sizable deal with San Francisco at the same age Sanders is now. Of course, Garcon was coming directly off a 1,000 yard season. I think Sanders likely sees a shorter deal than Garcon but similar annual value.

Paul Richardson

Comparable Deal: Kenny Stills (4 years, $32M, $17M guaranteed, signed in 2017)

Projected Contract: 4 years, $34M, $18M guaranteed

Both Stills and Richardson are burners who had quiet third seasons and finished with around 700 yards in year 4 before entering free agency. Stills had better production than Richardson in the first 2 years of his career, but overall I think they should likely be viewed similarly and will get fairly similar deals.

Albert Wilson

Comparable Deal: Rishard Matthews (3 years, $15M, $5M guaranteed, signed in 2016)

Comparable Deal: Jarius Wright (4 years, $15M, $7M guaranteed in 2015)

Projected Contract: 4 years, $22M, $8M guaranteed

And now we get to Albert Wilson, a free agent from Kansas City who already knows Matt Nagy and his offense. I think it is very likely he ends up in Chicago, and the price shouldn’t be too steep. Wilson compares very similarly in both age and production to Matthews and Wright when they signed their 2nd contracts. They all had something of a breakthrough season just before free agency that saw them finish with around 550-600 yards after not doing too much before that. Add in some inflation for a higher cap and there’s a general guideline for Wilson’s contract.

John Brown and Taylor Gabriel

Comparable Deal: Torrey Smith (3 years, $15M, $0.5M guaranteed, signed in 2017)

Projected Contract: 3 years, $16M, $6M guaranteed

Torrey Smith signed with Philadelphia last offseason coming off of his worst season as a pro in San Francisco. He was 28 years old and over the past few years had seen his production drop from 1100 yards down to about 700 for 2 years, with only 267 yards in his final year before free agency. Consequently, his market was not what he had hoped, and he settled for a small deal with very little guaranteed money.

That looks eerily similar to John Brown, who will be 28 next year and has seen his production drop from 1000 yards to 500 yards to only 299 over the last three years. Unless a team really believes in Brown and gives him a nice deal (likely along the lines of what I projected for Richardson above), he’s likely going to sign something shorter like Smith did.

The same goes for Taylor Gabriel, who is going to be 27 next year and had only 378 yards last year after a few better seasons in his past (around 600 yards two of the three years before that). If he had hit the market a year ago, he’d be projected more like Albert Wilson, but his down season in 2017 means he is likely looking at a shorter, smaller contract. You could also make an argument for Gabriel getting a slightly smaller deal, more in line with Kendall Wright’s comparables below.

Kendall Wright

Comparable Deal: Chris Hogan (3 years, $12M, $7.5M guaranteed, signed in 2016)

Comparable Deal: Seth Roberts (3 years, $12M, $6.3M guaranteed, signed in 2017)

Projected Contract: 3 years, $13M, $8M guaranteed

Like Hogan and Roberts, Wright is a little older than some of the higher upside guys above (all 3 are 27 or 28 in their first season under a new contract). That limits their upside a little bit, and thus keeps their price down. All three of these guys are pretty well slotted in as 3rd or 4th WRs who can give you about 500 yards a season. The market for Wright seems pretty clearly set to me, though it’s always possible he (or any other of these lower-level guys) slip through the cracks a bit and end up signing a cheaper 1-year deal later in free agency like Wright did in Chicago last year (1 year, $2M, $1M guaranteed).

Jaron Brown

Comparable Deal: Marquise Goodwin (2 years, $6M, $4.5M guaranteed, signed in 2017)

Projected Contract: 2 years, $7M, $3.5M guaranteed

Goodwin hit the market last year coming off his best season as a pro, but that was only 431 receiving yards. This surpassed his combined total from his first 3 years, but it wasn’t enough to land him a meaningful contract. Still, he landed a prove it deal in San Francisco, and signed a nice extension after proving it with a breakout 2017. Jaron Brown should find himself in the same boat this summer. He had 477 yards in 2017 after not topping 229 in any of his first 4 seasons. That’s enough to warrant some interest, but not enough to make a serious financial commitment.

Lessons Learned

If the Bears sign one player from each tier listed above, they’re likely looking at an annual cap hit of roughly $10-15 million, depending on the specific combinations of players. That seems reasonable for the time being since their other top skill position players are all on cheap rookie deals.

All of these players should fit the Bears’ new offense quite well and help fill their hole at WR. If I had my choice, I would ideally grab Marqise Lee and Albert Wilson. That’s a bit more expensive of a pairing, but both guys are young, great fits in the offense, and productive. Together with Cam Meredith, they would give the Bears a rock solid top trio of targets for Mitchell Trubisky, and all three could be around for the next 3-4 years to provide him with continuity.

Another option that could make sense would be to sign an older vet like Emmanuel Sanders or Mike Wallace on a short-term deal, grab one of the second tier guys (Wilson seems the most likely to me given his familiarity with Nagy), and draft a rookie to groom behind Wallace. That would provide solid targets right now while planning for a future where Cam Meredith likely gets more expensive.

Given their relative prices, what’s your favorite combination?

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  • Bear Instincts

    If you want to be the 2018 Eagles you give MT10 the best set if weapons possible: Marquise Lee, Albert Wilson and Paul Richardson plus a rookie in the 4th rd.

    • That’s a bit of overkill and not a good use of resources, IMO.

      I looked 2 weeks ago and found that teams will have 4-5 main passing targets who get 500+ yards a year (30+ yards a game). The Bears already have 3 in house (Cam, Shaheen, Cohen). Adding 4 more would be very expensive (those 3 combined in FA will probably cost about $25M) and have you investing resources in players who won’t play.

      Get 2 of those 3 in FA, plus a rookie. That gives you a bit of depth without needing to overinvest $$ in a WR4.

      • CaponeBot 1.0

        Cam Meredith is not a WR.

        • Big Mike

          and with that, we all know a little less about football 🙁

        • CanadaBear

          WTF? What you talking about Willis?

        • Irish Sweetness

          Then we’re fucked because he’s out best one.

      • NBIT (Not That Other Guy)

        I think you are being a bit too cautious JWood. Out WR group was useless last year when Cam went down. We would not be wasting resources bringing in three new guys rather than the two you advocate above (I actually think 2 WRs and a TE, but whatever).

        With that said, the team is going to have to find multiple playmakers. If we draft only 2 guys because of playing time concerns, we will fall apart as soon as an injury happens or someone doesn’t pan out.

        The real trick is, when you’ve got this many roster spots at the WR position you have to sign for value. I’d sign 3 or even 4 guys off of your list as long as I knew I was getting a good enough value on them. And you know what? We’ve got enough playing time that all 4 might get to start a game or two.

        I wouldn’t pay the all of those guys the figures you listed above, but somebody on that list will be the odd man out when the music stops after a week or two of FA. That’s the guy we get on a 2 year $5M deal or some such. With our cap space right now? That’s worth the risk of a guy riding the bench.

    • Irish Sweetness

      New receivers. WCO. Timing patterns. Pencil in 2 seasons before you see anything.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I don’t even see that as possible even if the Bears WANTED to do that.

  • BearDown100393

    “That’s a bit more expensive of a pairing, but both guys are young, great
    fits in the offense, and productive. Together with Cam Meredith, they
    would give the Bears a rock solid top trio of targets for Mitchell
    Trubisky, and all three could be around for the next 3-4 years to
    provide him with continuity.”

    Nice breakdown.


    Go sign the younger guys. 30+ vet types have been awful.

  • Jake Reist

    I would love Matthews and Gabriel as well as a WR in the 4th. I think the Chiefs are going to push hard bring Wilson back and we won’t be giving him a much larger role so he may stay. But i think Gabriel would be a nice consolation prize. I also like Matthews’ size more than Lee. But I’d be happy with either pair. Either way I’d like them to bring back Wright as a guy Tru trusts.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    I think we should bring back BRAVERMAN!!!!

    • willbest

      truer words have never been spoken.

    • Heading currently under contract. He’ll be in camp. I have zero expectations for him.

      • Bear Instincts

        Assuming that K.White, K.Wright & C.Meredith are locks to make the team and we sign 2 FA and draft a rookie who will o to the practice squad when the music stops: D.Braverman, M.Wheaton (gone), T.Gentry, D.Inman, T.McBride, T.Davis, J.Bellamy, T.Mizzell or B.Braunecker?

        • Wheaton is gonna be cut now.

          White is not a lock to make the team. Wright may or may not be re-signed.

          Right now the only WR who’s a lock for the roster is Cam.

          • willbest

            I would pencil Bellamy in. I don’t forsee one of the UDFAs or min wage vets distinguishing themselves from him, and he already has plenty of work with Trub already.

            I think the only way White doesn’t make the team is if he is on IR again. Its simply a function of who are you going to find that is going to be better than him. I get that availability is the most important ability, but you are paying him anyway. Stash the #6 WR on your practice squad and bring him up in week 4.

          • BenderMcLugh

            also, doesn’t Bellamy contribute on special teams?

          • willbest

            That is why I would pencil him in. He gets open as a receiver quite often, he just doesn’t have great hands. He isn’t a bad option when you are running 4 wide, but you are going to want somebody that will catch the ball more often out there.

          • CanadaBear

            He was actually pretty decent the last part of the year but it’s hard to trust someone who used to have hands of stone.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Have to wonder how differently he is viewed if he catches that ball in the end zone against the Falcons.

          • leftcoastdave

            You forgot the hand replacement surgeries he had in the off season. Once they limbered up, he was gold.

          • Bear Instincts

            I think White makes the team because he is getting paid and he is the first pick that Pace made.

            Inman could make the team as the #6 WR.

            The depth chart might look something like this:
            1- FA1
            2- FA2
            3- C.Meredith
            4- Rookie
            5- K.White
            6- Inman

          • Any WR past 4 has to be a big ST contributor.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            We don’t need any ST contributors…Just always kick touchbacks and punt it out of bounds.

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            White better learn how to punt.

          • leftcoastdave

            Yep, don’t forget Bellamy who I love.

          • I think there’s a great chance he’s back as an end of roster guy.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Jesus! How do two incoming nobodies jump Cam by two spots!!

          • leftcoastdave

            FA 1
            Albert Wilson
            K. White

          • CanadaBear

            I’m assuming KW will be given EVERY opportunity to make the team. If he’s got nothing by final cut down, C-Ya. Hope that’s not the case. I’m guessing Bellamy makes it for ST’s and that last WR spot.

          • Irish Sweetness

            We need KW to come through now. I’m hopeful he’s our surprise breakout player this season.

          • John F

            Why is everyone assuming Cam comes back healthy and/or effective. I am doubtful he will significantly contribute in 2018 – usually two years til you are fully healthy.

          • Sactowns#1

            I thought White was getting paid regardless. So he’ll be on the squad.

        • BearDown100393

          Kev White is a lock?

        • Irish Sweetness

          Where do people think we’re going to get 2 or 3 receivers better than Bellamy, Inman, Tanner etc.?

          Think anyone is walking into Halas and just picking up the WCO and sliding into a chemistry with MT??

          All we’re really missing is the jump-ball guy.

          • leftcoastdave

            I’m still up for doing a trade with Jerry for Dez. They only have 17m cap space and trading Dez gets them another 16m. The Cowboys have TEN draft picks. We could always give them Gentry if they also give us a third, fourth and fifth like the Browns pulled off with Houston.
            Are three picks worth overpaying a guy who wants to go out as other than a bum?

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        He is currently on the Chiefs. I think we should trade for him. I bet we could get him for our 1st round pick.

        • BearDown100393

          1st pick and MT. Extend Giraffe.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I think you should be our next GM.

          • BearDown100393

            We can take turns.

        • oh yeah, I was thinking Gentry.

          Sorry, I got my shitty overhyped training camp WRs confused.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Why you gotta be so mean?

          • BenderMcLugh


    • John F

      Nelson Spruce is the new “hot” name (he is on the practice squad).

      Guy was actually pretty good on the Ram’s until he tore up his knee.

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  • CanadaBear

    I would think Wright would be a slam dunk signing but who knows. Makes a lot of sense for both sides. Of the guys JW mentions I hope there isn’t any injury history in their recent past. That rarely ends well for the Bears. Other than that, fuck yeah, sign at least 2 of those guys + Wright and look for one in the draft on day 3.

    • BenderMcLugh

      Day 2 would be preferrable to ensure a bonafide starter. That seems possible this year with the deep WR class, no?

      • CanadaBear

        If they signed all the other ones I’d prefer a little later than rd 2 but you know me, if they’re good that’s all that matters. I don’t really get invested in any players until they put on the blue and orange. As long as they don’t go WR in the first I’m totally OK with it.

        • BenderMcLugh

          yeah no need to get WR in the first unless they trade back. Aw crap, I had to say it……

          • leftcoastdave

            Yup. Trade back and get Equinimious St. Brown.

        • I think you land a “day 2” WR with one of their round 4 picks this year. Tons of depth, some of that will drop guys.

          Personally, I think Keke Coutee is a great fit for this offense and should be there in round 4.

          • BenderMcLugh

            hmm intriguing, from the link:
            Keke Coutee:

            Texas Tech WR || 5’11” 181lbs || Junior #2

            2017 Stats . . .

            – 93 REC
            – 1429 YDS
            – 10 TDs

          • College stats mean very little. I’m looking more at the fact that he’s very fast and quick. Lethal in space, which fits well in this offense.

            I think he’ll fit the physical profile very well.

          • BenderMcLugh

            College stats can have some meaning, all depends on the quality of opponents JW.

          • Irish Sweetness

            5’10? 170??

            And where do we get the go-getter? Slots and small guys we have. Veterans.

      • Irish Sweetness

        The 6’5 guys won’t last outside round 2 will they?

  • willbest
    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      “Modestly”… I don’t need any injections

      • willbest

        But you have only been “modest” about it for a couple years.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I believe “WTF” is an entirely appropriate response to that, on multiple levels…?

    • John F

      Does this really work?

      Asking for a friend ………….

  • willbest

    “And he truly believed that the musical – one of the only true American art forms” – Jeff

    I am curious about your metric on this. Is it because there isn’t a lot of demand for them elsewhere?

    • CanadaBear

      I think it’s gilding the lily a bit.

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      “one of the only true American art forms”

      Reality television?

      • SC Dave


        • Irish Sweetness

          We have a winner.

  • Kenny Dennis

    Jezza Jezza he gets a fine
    Rodger the master walks the line
    NFL it takes what’s mine
    Can’t stop Elliot he wants to shine
    now the plastic one will really whine

  • SC Dave
    • CanadaBear

      I agree with him but I’m guessing there might be a few people that are pissed. Oh well. If they played as hard as Howard maybe the WR’s might have been a little better!

      • AlbertInTucson

        How DARE he speak the truth like that!

      • I don’t think Howard is too worried about offending Wright or Wheaton.
        Dude was out there trying to fall on his left shoulder cuz his right shoulder was fucked.

        Partly due to WRs sucking and having to face 8 man boxes

        • CanadaBear

          Exactly. That’s one of the reasons most of us like Howard. Puts in the effort. Although I agree with Dave, he should probably give his chin a rest for a while.

          • SC Dave

            You guys all know I’m a big fan of JH. Shit, I’ve used this avatar since his 2nd (maybe 3rd) start as a Bear.

            But talking too much gives the appearance of self-absorption, which is rarely a good thing.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Except that he didn’t mention them, so he’s blazing ALL of them by saying that.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Yup, thinking aloud now …

  • willbest

    “Another thing: league is expected to change the rule to allow teams to
    hire coaches, even while their teams are still active in the playoffs.
    That proposal has come up before and has failed, but is expected to have
    greater support after the Josh McDaniels situation with Colts.” Someone Rap is retweeting

  • BenderMcLugh

    start your conspiracy theories for why this will be quashed in three, two, one…..

    • willbest

      Because that capacitor could be weaponized to produce a laser that would drop a plane.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Already done, long time ago.

        • willbest

          But they haven’t stuck it in a commercial product everybody can get their hands on.

    • John F

      I think I have read this same story every five years for the last 30 years …….. never seems to pan out.

      File this in the “major cancer breakthrough”, “major solar energy breakthrough”, ” flying cars are finally here”, “plane developed to fly around world in 2 hours”, etc, etc, etc ………..

  • AlbertInTucson

    Goodell: “Let’s see, now, we want pay for draftees coaches to come to the draft and, yeah, gotta address that damn “what’s a catch” rule.

    There was something else,.

    WHAT was that…?

    Ohhhh, yeah!

    Show Jerry Jones how much I appreciated his support last season…


    • willbest

      That isn’t Goodell doing it. That is the other billionaires. What is amusing is the amount. $2 million sounds like a lot to us normal folks but that that is about $65,000 an owner. Crumbs, really.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Just shows you how POPULAR Jerra made himself last year.

        • willbest

          I bet there is more on the table most hands of their annual poker game.

          • AlbertInTucson

            And they find a way to write it off, anyway.

  • Scharfinator

    I love this youtube channel

    • Sactowns#1

      DAMN I want the bears to draft this dude so bad!

      • SC Dave

        Me too. The dude is BRUTAL and I want that on our line.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Have they done Tremaine yet? Can’t see one.

      The dude is only 19!!

  • John F

    I really wonder if we are going to be able to sign any free agents other than 3rd and 4th tier. Maybe that is why Pace has been face-planting on the FA signings.

    The fact of the matter is that the Bears have been putrid for the better part of a decade, and except for a couple of good Lovie years, were putrid for the ten years before that. We now are viewed as a losing franchise that can’t seem to turn it around. I have heard all kinds of excuses as far as “coaching uncertainty”, “quarterback uncertainty”, blah blah blah. I would think that for essentially the same money, a top tier player would rather play for around 20-25 other teams rather than play for the Bears.

    • FA look at who’s currently on a team. They don’t care about what happened 5 or even 10 years ago.

      Bears couldn’t get anybody last year because Mike Glennon was their QB, and the coaching staff was on the hot seat.

      They now have a young QB and a coaching staff that are all locked in for the next 3 years. That matters to FA. If the money is close, they should be able to get good FA (just like they did in 2016).

      • John F

        But if you were a FA and the money offered was within 5.0%, I would think that most players would rather play for (in no particular order) the:


        or as we found out last year, the Jaguars

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          Guess we’ll see in a few weeks.

          • John F

            It will be a way of getting outside of the “bubble” and seeing whether all of this change on the Bears is viewed positively or negatively by the free market.

            If the Bears get passed over by top tier FA’s, we’ll know the answer.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            I agree. And if that isn’t enough, I guess only a couple of winning seasons built on draftees and second tier Free Agents would be the answer.

            That said, I’ll be moderately surprised if Pace isn’t able to grab at least a couple this year. Proof is in the pudding though.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I’m just curious – why does it matter where most WRs would like to play? Who cares where they want to play? They need jobs.

      • SC Dave

        Specious argument on Glennon. No one, other than Jeff, expected him to be that bad. And Jeff may have just been lucky.

    • willbest


      • John F

        Have you actually watched Bears games over the last 25 years?

    • Pace will have to over pay which he is incapable of.
      And even if Pace decides to finally open up his wallet after 3 abysmal seasons, the Browns, Jags and a lot of other teams have much more cap to lure away the mercs.

      However, if there were ever a yr Pace signs quality FAs, this is it.

      Bears theoretically now have their HC and QB in place. That’s a major selling point.

      But I have little confidence Pace can close a deal. Have You heard him talk? He sounds like that Bestbuy cashier trying to sell you that 5 yr “premium” insurance.

  • We gotta go into FA knowing that this draft is not loaded at WR.

    Pace needs to sign

    Lee or M. Bryant or Sanders

    2nd tier

    Richardson or Wilson or Brown

    • This draft is loaded at WR though. Very deep with good players. Just no obvious Julio Jones type prospect at the top.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Unless you have a crystal ball you have no idea if this draft is loaded at WR or not.

        • That’s fair. I’m just saying based on the general consensus, this is thought to be a very good WR group.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I read the same about RBs, but that won’t get no love on here!

          • CanadaBear

            The Bears are desperate for WR help. They are in decent shape at RB.

          • SC Dave

            That said, if we can get someone in Round 5…

      • I don’t think Pace should risk striking out again at WR. It’s obvious by now he sucks at either attaining or evaluating WR.

        I would rather he go for a more proven WR like Richardson than have to rely on his uncanny WR acumen.

        Having proven WRs will also help Trub more immedietly as opposed to some 4rth rd project who only ran bubble screens in college.

        • Absolutely. as I’ve laid out in painstaking detail over the last three weeks, I think they need 2 FA WRs plus a mid round draft pick. And I’d add a guy like Luke Willson at TE too.

          Get a nice deep skill position group.

          • Agree. Lee could be #1. Cam #2. Paul Richardson can be that explosive slot Wright was supposed to be.

            Bellamy #4 sp teamer.

            White and mid rder can battle it out for last roster spot.

            Luke Wilson will be solid. I like Burton, but not sure how much he’ll demand

            Austin Jenkins would be an upside risk I would take.
            Eifert is inj prone, but he should come cheap and should hold up better as a#2 .

            Niles Paul would be my cheap option

    • willbest

      No bryant.

      • Martavious, Dez or both?

        • willbest

          Neither performs on the field better than their attitude. And Martavious isn’t even going to be #2 WR material when he gets out of Brown’s shadow and doesn’t have a HoF QB throwing to him.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Looking at the tape on Nelson and Edmunds, we’d be fine drafting either guy, but Nelson, wow. That dude is a bad man. And seeing McGlinchey beside him, he’d be all right too.

    • SC Dave

      Yeah, I watched the Nelson show a few weeks back, and he is the guy I want. We need *attitude* and *brutality* on the OLine, and he brings it all.

  • SC Dave

    So no thoughts on Brad Childress as “senior offensive consultant”?


    “The returnees include defensive backs coach Ed Donatell, assistant
    defensive backs coach Roy Anderson, linebackers coach Glenn Pires,
    outside linebackers coach Brandon Staley, defensive line coach Jay
    Rodgers and defensive quality control coach Sean Desai. Bill Shuey has
    been added as an additional defensive quality control coach.”


    By the way, what the fuck does a “quality control coach” do?

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      Birth control stops births.
      Gun control stops guns.
      Quality control stops quality?

    • EnderWiggin

      I was under the impression that Childress is just here to help Nagy complete/structure the playbook. I could be wrong, but I’d expect Childress to be gone before the end of the summer.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Mike Wallace? Really?

    • Krush12684

      As long as we can get the ball to him, he has plenty of value. Gotta believe we can…

  • BerwynBomber

    Nice word, JWood.

    I’ve always been partial to Jordan Matthews, but apparently the dude only played well when I watch him (given that the Iggles never seemed to completely trust him).

    The Sitton move gives me pause about Pace’s primary intention for next year, but he could win me back by SERIOUSLY addressing the WR position — and I’m thinking a solid FA and high draft pick will convince.

    Otherwise, I sense it will be year four in which development is placed over winning.

  • BerwynBomber

    Papa John’s will no longer have to worry about protesters.


  • EnderWiggin

    Pack/Rogers working on an extension that will surpass Garoppolo’s.

    “Garoppolo‘s perch at the top of the pay scale isn’t going to last long. The Packers are making “progress” on a new deal with Rogers that surely will make the Green Bay quarterback the highest paid in the league.”

    It’ll be a “sad” day when Erin breaks another collarbone week 1. He’s mid 30’s or so, I think that may be another step toward Packer idiocy (fingers crossed [for idiocy, not an injury]).

    Edit: source – https://sports.yahoo.com/packers-working-deal-aaron-rodgers-023047539.html

    • BerwynBomber

      Rodgers is crazy to stick around there. Cousins, who isn’t half the QB, is in a much, much better position.

      • EnderWiggin

        Yeah, my thoughts too. If Rogers breaks the bank in Green Bay, he’ll just hinder their future. /chuckle

        Whoa (Reeve’s voice) what if Rogers went to Minn and Cousins went to Green Bay?

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Rodgers is signed through next year.

        • Krush12684

          Rodgers would hinder GB!!? LOL cuz that roster devoid of any talent outside of him would do anything…

  • WiltedSpinach

    Paul Richardson, Donte Moncrief, one of John Brown/Albert Wilson, draft a guy in the 4th.

    Richardson has probably the best hands of the whole group, and getting someone really reliable with his game speed seems necessary.

    Moncrief I think is badly underrated, after two seasons of injured Andrew Luck and the leakiest, most pressured OLine in the league have deflated his numbers (he posted 1000 yards in 2015).

    Wilson and Brown are both slot guys; Wilson has experience in the system (and will probably be signed due to his connection), but Brown may be more interesting with his speed: watch how deep he gets played by cornerbacks, and imagine the havoc the respect for his speed could cause when he lines up next to Shaheen.

    As for waiting to the 4th round for a WR, I think you’re more likely to see a value there than 1st round.

    Total price likely < $20m/year, so we can still tag Fuller, sign Aaron Lynch, and find guys at Center (Greg Mancz/Ryan Jensen?) and TE (Luke Willson?) to fill out holes.

    Finalize by drafting Joshua Jackson 1, Tyrell Crosby (Hiestand coaching a Helfrich guy) 2.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Your plan doesn’t give us a receiver bigger than 6’3 (Cam, if healthy).

      If there’s a 6’5 receiver available in the 4th then he’s probably no good.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Well that’s good news :

    1. The defensive pass interference rule will be changed to a 15 yarder.

    2. The catch rule will be reviewed.

    3. A ‘Josh McDaniel’s rule’ will be introduced … to prevent tards from going full-tard.

    • Krush12684

      #1 is fake news…

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