DaBearsPod: Scott Wright of NFLDraftCountdown.com for Combine Week! [AUDIO]

| March 2nd, 2018

On this week’s episode of DaBearsPod:

• Scott Wright of NFLDraftCountdown.com on (a) why this is not the ideal draft class for the Bears to rebuild at the receiver and edge rusher positions. (b) why he thinks the league may be sleeping on LSU wideout DJ Chark, who he compares (hesitantly) to Michael Thomas. (c) Texas OT Connor Williams possibly falling this week. (d) Quenton Nelson and what will be a hotly-debated QB class. (e) Much, much more…

•Reverend Dave wakes up in the middle of the night and mumbles his sermon into a microphone like Bukowski. It has to be heard to be believed. It’s his masterpiece.

•Prokofiev! Music!

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  • CaponeBot 1.0

    Potential first rd pick Ohio State center Billy Price tears pec doing the bench press. Millions of dollars lost.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Ouch, thats painful.

    • BearDown100393


    • Bear Instincts

      hopefully he slides down into the 5th or 6th rd and we get him as a steal

    • 505Bears

      That sucks, but the way they lift those weights at the combine, I’m not surprised

      • CanadaBear

        Is the form hideous?

    • Scharfinator

      Blows my mind, you’re only running 225 – that’s not nothing, but tearing a pec? Holy shit.

      • CaponeBot 1.0

        some top OL guy just did 14. Cutty did 23.
        Somewhere MB just threw up a little in his mouth. I think he did 12 as a 42yr old whose main exercise routine is Standfucking and surfing.

    • 3rd rd guy for Bears

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Nagy was on the Golic & Wingo show this morning. He seems to say all the right things so far.

    1. Trust the process, high energy, it is going to time.
    2. not really swayed by numbers at Combine, more into film.
    3. Combine is the chance to meet and get to know draft picks over the combine numbers.
    4. Trubs has to work on decision making and understanding coverages.
    5. Competitive side of him wants Playoffs this Year, but then backs off it a bit stating it is a process.

    More I hear from him the more comfortable/excited I am getting.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis
    • BearDown100393

      All smokescreens.

      I’m jaded on any alleged truth from football executives.

      • Bear Instincts

        Wilson is not a smoke screen. Its too obvious. We saw this coming a mile away

        Laundry is pure smokescreen. Landry is not going to change the entire dynamic of the offense. The offense is going to sputter while getting its sea legs. Why would you give up a draft pick(s) plus overpay with a fat contract when there are solid receiving options in FA? Plus money spent on Landry would be better spent on the defense since they will be the reason this team wins this season.

    • I feel like Wilson is all but a lock.

      1. He`ll be cheap, which Pace loves
      2. Wilson will be familiar w Nagy system. He stressed scheme fit in interview
      3. New HCs love players from former teams

  • Bear Instincts

    “The Dolphins are seeking a draft pick or a player in exchange for Landry. Chicago is among teams that has emerged as a possibility.”

    Who on the roster would you trade for Landry if you did not want to give up a draft pick?

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      the Bears don’t have a surplus of talent at any one position so anyone we didn’t want is probably someone any other team wouldn’t want either unless it created another hole.

      …that leaves the possibility of trading two crappy wide receivers for one good one?

      • Bear Instincts

        Why would they take two of our crappy WR’s? We lack WR talent. And who says they would want a WR in return for Landry? maybe they want J.Howard or A.Shaheen.

        • KentuckyBearsFan

          exactly. And we need both Howard and Shaheen.

        • SC Dave

          Trading Howard for Landry would be idiotic.

          • I would only be for that if Barkley was a possibilty for us.

            Barkley-Landry > Howard-Ridley

            But that’s not a real possibility, so next up on the agenda…

        • MrBearsox02 .

          Rumor is all they want is a mid rounder or similar value to that . They realize that Landry is gone but wanted to try and get anything of value back to recoup some lost draft picks !

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

      I’d consider a tag and trade on Fuller. While last season was damn good, he’s only had one of those. In fact, most assumed he was going to be released. But then last year happened. So he wants big money, and we just don’t know if last year was the outlier. It’s entirely possible last year was a taste of what’s to come. It’s just as possible he was playing to get paid and wants out. Given the money at stake, the utter need for a WR, and the uncertainty of whether he even wants to be Bear or not, I’d consider Fuller despite the weak DB group. Might be the only opportunity the Bears have to capitialize on his season.

      • Bear Instincts

        We need consistency on the defense. Fuller is worth more to us than he is to other teams.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          You willing to bet 4 years of top DB money that 2018 looks like 2017 with him?

          Tough call. I hate to let him go, but what if his next three seasons look like his first three and he’s getting AJ Bouye money?

          • Bear Instincts

            I’m willing to bet that Fuller is more like year 1&4 going forward than year 2&3. Plus Pace can front load his contract so that he can be dumped if things don’t work out

          • Most FAs (including Bouye) have question marks. Was Josh Norman a system CB? Is Prince/Alshon an INJ waiting to happen? Can McPhee handle a full workload? Is Wheaton a one trick wonder? Can Cooper hit his upside? Etc

            It’s up to Pace to asses the risk and choose wisely . For instance, With FAs like Pugh (inj) or Mo (character) etc.

            Needless to say, he’s batting below .200 but maybe Nagy helps him out w the pro scouting side.

            I don’t think that’s talked about much but HCs ( and even coordinators) have a lot of input in both FA and the draft (CedDrunk never gets drafted w out Lovie and we all remember all the Rams and Buc castoffs) and Nagy came from a team who collected a lot of talent, so Nagy still has a lot of those Chiefs scouting reports on current players and maybe even draftees ( most teams do preliminary scouting yr round).

            So maybe Nagy and his Chief’s cheat sheet can help Pace finally sign the right FAs and kill the draft.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            Well. You’re both persistent and consistent. I’ll give you that.

          • MrBearsox02 .

            I too cannot get behind Fuller and the franchise tag ! Perhaps the trans tag as that is but top 10 money vs top 5 ! Also allows us to either match the contract another team worked out ( so we do not have to do the dirty work ) or just let him go ! And you can always make a trade at the reduced level if you did sign him via a match ! Plus if you even did let him go we are then able to qualify for compensatory pick next year .

          • I’m An Adult

            The transition tag sounds like the best option unless Pace and Fuller can agree to a long term deal.
            Based on latest reports, it sounds like Fuller actually wants to come back. Maybe a long term deal is possible, but the transition tag is the best option if a long term deal doesn’t happen. Using the franchise tag would cost too much money.

        • BerwynBomber

          “Fuller is worth more to us than he is to other teams.”

          Depends on the team.

          Just within the division I would say you are correct in regard to DET and MIN. And incorrect in regard to GB.

      • BerwynBomber

        It would be a damn interesting move and I could certainly see your logic.

        I would also add that our DBs aren’t the dumpster fire they once were even w/out Fuller.

        Jackson looked damn good as a rook. Amos seemed to turn a corner (though I remain a little dubious). Prince is at least semi-competent. Callahan (when healthy) seems an above average slot CB.

        There are some decent pieces back there even beyond Fuller.

        • CanadaBear

          Of course, Prince A. and Callahan are also FA’s. FUCK! I’d like to see Fuller and Callahan re-signed. Don’t really care about Prince either way.

          • Bear Instincts

            I think the word you are looking for is consistency. Fuller should be our top FA signing priority followed by Trumain Johnson, Albert Wilson, Allen Robinson/Paul Richardson and Muhammed Wilkerson

          • BerwynBomber

            I would too.

            That said, I can see the reason behind Wad’s suggestion or WillB’s distrust of Fuller.

            Hence, if Pace decided to move him, and it turned out to be a mistake, I don’t know if one could claim it was senseless as a MMQB. Just a misreading of the kid’s commitment.

          • Bear Instincts

            Pace gets paid not to misread. That is is his job. Make the right reads. Avoid the wrong ones. It is normally safer to keep a player than to let them go and they flourish somewhere else.

        • willbest

          Amos looks competent because he wasn’t back there by himself this season like he was in 2016. I am not worried about him.

          • BerwynBomber

            I still don’t trust his ball skills. But if you don’t expect that from his position I can understand trusting him more.

          • willbest

            Sure its a shame that 4 PD’s should have been INTs, but he can lay wood without shattering. I mean I am not saying 10 year starter, so if you got a top notch SS that falls into your lap ala Sitton go for it, but in terms of top end FA’s you have to overpay or first/second day draft picks, look elsewhere.

          • CanadaBear

            100%. I was happily wrong about both Amos and Fuller last year. They were both playing with a ton of confidence and looked really good. I like that Amos shook a few guys up last year with some stiff shots. If he can figure out when to lay the wood and when to go for the ball, that would be great. I’m guessing he and Goldman are getting extended in the near future.

      • Isnt MIA barely under the cap? They may not be able to absorb a tag and trade, at least not w out an informal agreement w Fuller

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          I don’t know. I would assume they still have plenty of roster moves to make should they choose to pursue a deal.

      • That Guy

        How many times have players been tagged and then traded?

        I think it has happened maybe once.

        It won’t happen to Fuller.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          I don’t know. It’s somewhat ironic that Landry has been tagged and is actively shopping a trade though.

          • leftcoastdave

            Miami wants him out negotiating for a trade hoping to get themselves something for him.

    • BenderMcLugh

      Sign & trade Braverman

    • ButtonShoes

      Someone off the practice squad.

    • MrBearsox02 .

      They should not have cut Willie Young or Sitton as Miami could use either since they have those needs AND obviously Miami has a HC that is familiar with each !

  • Bob Doll

    I couldn’t disagree with this podcast initial point of the randomness of the process more…it is coming from a person who doesn’t understand human nature. This process is an “odds” game…in that you will not get your picks right necessarily but over time, those who know what they are doing will win more than they lose. There is a bunch of bad, missed picks but teams like the Browns perennially pick wrong and teams that are strong perennially, the Steelers have a better understanding of what the indicators of success are…you can’t get into a person’s head, but the film does not lie and the rest is psychology applied. Baseball is an odds game, football is an odds game…there really isn’t much difference between a 6-10 team vs a 10-6 team…a handful of calls, injuries a missed or made field goal etc…there is a lot of difference from the very best to the very worst. Tom Brady in the 6th round was pure luck, but Cedric Benson at #4 is why Jerry Angelo is no longer with us. An odds game so a good drafter vs a bad drafting team…the difference is Johnny Manzel vs about anyone else.

    • BearDown100393

      You get points just for listening to it.

      • Bob Doll

        I enjoy listening quite a bit really, just disagree with the point. This podcast was good overall and I enjoyed the listen…keep them coming!

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      And Jones was coming off a great year too (and continued to have good years) but Angelo drafted the turd Benson to replace him.

      Benson expected to be the starter from Day 1 since he was drafted so high but he was mediocre at best.

      • Bob Doll

        When Benson was crying, I thought those were tears of joy…later I came to understand they were not. When Jones punched Benson in the locker room…that was a veteran player enforcing “norms of conduct” , albeit in an unhealthy manner, on a player that was not behaving in an appropriate manner according to Jones (an informal leader)…that team was a dumpster fire at that point! We could have picked Aaron Rodgers…but “Rex is our quarterback”. Leadership, coaching, culture…those are real and tangible…just very abstract and hard to measure and see….successful teams over the long term do it right…those that don’t have issues at the top. The superbowl appearance in 06 bought Lovie much more time but he never was in a solid position with ownership and people in the league knew it…attracting talent was very difficult. The Bears now have a window where that is not the case…they should be able to attract some top FA talent…they got the coaches…now the draft…just don’t pick duds…so far so good with Pace imo

        • evantonio

          rodgers would’ve been garbage with the bears.

          which, i guess, would’ve been good because it means he wouldn’t have been good with the packers.

      • CanadaBear

        That’s not true about Jones coming off a great year. He had 948 yds rushing and missed a couple of games. At that point in his career he never had a 1,000 yd season. All the draft hooey had Benson as a slam dunk @ 4. Unfortunately they were all wrong and Cedrunk was a head case.

        • KentuckyBearsFan

          I must have been thinking of how much better Jones was a few seasons earlier. And at least always better than Benson when Jones was still a Bear.

          Didn’t know the story about Jones punching Benson but I can see how he was asking for it.

          • CanadaBear

            Jones’ breakout year was the first year of Cedrunk. He followed that with another good year and then off to the Jets. When that idiot held out for more money it just blew my mind. No wonder they had to call off the defense in practice. They disliked him so much they were blowing him up on every play. And that still didn’t wake his ass up. What a disappointing pick!

  • George Hotchkiss

    Love the music!

  • CanadaBear

    I like Jeff saying he doesn’t give a shit if people like the music or not. Probably not the best way to approach widening your appeal but I admire his honesty. Personally I like the music. I much prefer classical piano music to orchestral music but there’s plenty of room for everybody. Here’s the classical pianist I was talking about the other day. Great chops and not hard on the eyes.

    • willbest

      It seems redundant to me. The act of making a public declaration is already an indication that you don’t care what other people think on that matter.

      I always found a good brass ensemble pretty easy to listen to.

      • CanadaBear

        Honestly I like almost anything live if the people are talented. Have no interest in pop, Rap/Hip-Hop, Country, Opera, Broadway Musicals but pretty open minded about the rest. Nothing against any of the genres, they just aren’t my cup of tea. Although I gotta say I relentlessly make fun of Country music among my friends (none of them are fans either). Growing up in Iowa a million years ago you were exposed to Country. To this day I still like the old school stuff up to a point.

  • CanadaBear

    We had a piano whiz at our Blues festival last year. Victor Wainwright is a monster player. How he can get those pudgy fingers going so fast and accurately is amazing. Of course, he started playing when he was about 5. Super nice guy and definitely likes the ganja. I hooked him up while he was in town. When you sign contracts with artists they usually have a rider or clauses that they want honored. Usually small things like water, towels, etc. After he was signed he sent us an E-mail about his Willie Nelson clause. Funny Stuff! This track doesn’t really feature him that much but I just love the tune.

    • AlbertInTucson

      With a nod to Louie Prima.

      • CanadaBear

        It’s a great tune! I love Louis Prima. He sure looked like he was having a good time when he was performing. Sam Butera on tenor sax could really belt out the songs along with some great honking.

        • leftcoastdave

          I know Prima’s daughter and her mother recently died here in town. Her house had signs out front “Parking for Italians Only.” That would have been Keeley Smith, of course.

          • CanadaBear

            I saw she passed a couple of months ago.

        • AlbertInTucson

          He wrote SING, SING, SING, which, if not the greatest swing tune ever written, is definitely in the discussion.

          • CanadaBear

            Great song for sure. My favorite by Louis is Just a Gigilo/I Ain’t Got Nobody. He didn’t write it but everyone knows him for that song. The DLR version makes me want to leave the room.

    • SC Dave

      Gee… this just sent me off for an hour through Wikipedia articles on Pine Top Perkins, Robert Johnson, and Delta Blues.

      All good.

      Did you ever see Pine Top, Canada?

      I remember seeing he and muddy playing in a park in Westmont. The stage was a flatbed trailer from some dude’s semi. I think a neighbor.

      • CanadaBear

        I saw Pinetop with Muddy and twice with his own band. Paid him for one of those shows. Really nice man. Almost all of the older guys that I paid and spent time with were nice and gracious with their time. Some of them were real characters.

    • SC Dave

      I know you talked about not being a country fan, but I thought I’d float this one past you. There is much kinship between country and the blues poetically.

      I need to see this guy.

      • CanadaBear

        Oddly enough I’ve met him too. I worked on a Blues and Roots Festival in Calgary about 15 years ago and he was on the bill. I took him to one of the local TV stations to perform on a morning show. Really nice guy and his wife was a beauty (and really nice too). When I’m making fun of Country it’s all the crapola that is pop music with a twang or that flag waving BS that ‘s just looking for the lowest common denominator.

  • Bear Instincts
    • evantonio

      damn. i was looking forward to seeing his blazing 4.47

      • Bear Instincts

        if he is hurt and his stock drops we can trade back and still get him. very unlikely that his stock will drop. colts will probably take him to help protect luck

        • drills don’t matter that much for OL in terms of speed stuff. He’s got plenty good tape, not working out here won’t hurt him.

          • No but it may make some think he’s INJ prone.
            You can be a tough, great OG, but INJ prone like Long

          • Bear Instincts

            Long was not injury prone coming out of college. Mismanagement lead to him being this way

          • SC Dave

            Or pussiness

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            Orlando Brown did himself no favors at this combine. First, he has huge man titties and is straight up fat.

            Context on Orlando Brown’s Combine, per @pfref’s combine database: 19.5″ vertical (would be worst of any player ever drafted) 82″ broad jump (also would be worst ever drafted) 5.85 40 (2nd-worst, the other was a 7th-rounder in 2001) 14 bench reps (tied for 4th-worst amongst OLs)

            FOURTEEN REPS. He also got fucking yelled at by the combine coaches for half assing it.

          • Is this that fat kid who came out in Goonies?

          • CanadaBear

            Either he has no idea how to lift weights or he’s allergic to them. That is pitiful for a guy his size. What a dumbass.

          • SC Dave

            Or maybe he’s a football player and not a weightlifter?

            Or saw some dude rip a pectoral on the bench and said – “wow, that shit is STUPID”?

          • CanadaBear

            But if you feel that way, why go to the combine? You would think all of these guys have been taught proper technique and have had plenty of practice. Look at it another way. Do you think you could put up 14 reps with a bar weighing 100 lbs less than you? Pretty sure you could if you worked at it a little bit.

          • SC Dave

            And five years after retirement, when he is elected to the HoF on the first ballot, none will care about the combine.

  • Sactowns#1

    So why exactly did we cut big Willie Young?

    • CanadaBear

      There’s something a little odd going on with that one. The 2 Adams podcast mentioned something about the Bears cleared out his locker late in the year. Apparently they didn’t do that to any other guy on IR. That’s as much as I’ve heard.

      • I’ve heard that Young and Freeman both didn’t have lockers left by the end of the year.

        • CanadaBear

          Not good company to be in if you’re Willie.

      • Sactowns#1

        Yeah, something is off for sure. Either the Bears medical staff knows something and theyre staying tight lipped or Pace is just shooting from the hip and has no real plan.

    • He’s 33, looked washed up before getting hurt last year, and is coming off a major injury.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Sure, but other than THAT…

    • BerwynBomber

      Willie was arguably my favorite Bear since his first regular season game for us. And I would argue he was a net positive FA signing.

      That said, it was time to wish him happy trails. Good dude but his days as an effective player looked to be winding down.

      Wouldn’t be shocked if he ends up coaching ultimately. Gave off a strong, knowledgeable mentor vibe after we drafted Floyd.

      • SC Dave

        I liked Willie too. But, oh well.

        Doesn’t seem like sentimentality has any lines of code in the Pacebot.

    • ButtonShoes

      He’s old and not healthy.

  • Bear Instincts

    If S.Barkley falls to #8 should we draft him and trade J.Howard?

    • BenderMcLugh

      Draft him and KEEP Howard. Don’t be like the trade Forte crowd, bad Bear!

      • leftcoastdave

        Bad Bear, no honey!

      • Malice Halice

        Be the most insane RB duo in the history of the nfl. Buy Landry, a guard or tackle, DB n draft linebackers n lineman

    • SC Dave


      • BenderMcLugh

        If he falls to 8 he would be seriously difficult to pass on but it would reek of a Lions type draft when they drafted WR in the first a couple times even though that had plenty of WR talent already on the team.

        • SC Dave

          I repeat, no.

          • BenderMcLugh

            You know you want him, give in to your feelings

    • ButtonShoes


    • Irish Sweetness

      In a New York Minute.

      Barkley just ran a 4.40 at the combine and equaled the record for bench presses by a RB.
      233 lbs.

      When he turns the corner, he doesn’t run out of gas after 30 yards of running. He’s gone.

      • CanadaBear

        He won’t be there at 8.

        • SC Dave

          And if he is, pass.

          • CanadaBear

            You’re preaching to the choir. If Barkley was there at 8, either trade the pick or take him. He’s supposed to be the best player in the draft. I would be shocked if he’s there at 8 and even more shocked if the Bears took him.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

        He also hasn’t played a single down in the NFL. Let’s see him turn the corner and be “gone” in the NFL.

      • Browns may actually draft him #1 overall.

        • CanadaBear

          If they don’t grab a QB with one of those first rders, the fans should boycott the games.

          • Like the podcast observed, this is an odd QB class in that it`s so deep at the top that a team could be ok w Danold, Rosen, Rudolph, Mayfield…

            I could easily see Brown logic, “get Barkley #1, take whatever QB falls to us w the 4rth overall”

            Wouldnt be my plan but that 4.40 might tempt them

          • CanadaBear

            Also would be cheaper. I’m with you, if you have a fave, take the guy and don’t look back. If they are OK with any 1 of 4, that would tell me they haven’t a clue.

  • Podcast notes. Bring back the bongos!
    Jeff’s argument that the draft is a total crapshoot reminds me of that scene from Rounders when he asks, ” if it’s just luck, why do the same guys make the WSOP evey yr? “. Or like saying the stockmmarket is a coin flip. Sophmoric assertion. Just look at the Texans drafting well and remaining competitive over yrs in spite of dubious HCs and QBs like Hoyer compared to us or the Browns.

    And it is the experts who create the draftboard to start. If his cat had to throw a dart at over 1000 players randomly, that cat would end up in a Chinese resataurant after 1 season.

    Luck is involved, no doubt. Sometimes you don’t make the straight on the river, but if you’re good, more often than not, you’re not relying on the river.

    – ‘sorry to break it to Bear fans, but this is a weak class at the WR and rush position’

    That’s what I heard. Though Pace has tended to lean on BPA over need (White over Beasly).

    I also am staunchly against drafting an OG in the top 10. Cooper and Warmack are reminders that there are no such things as lock even at OG, so why not take a chance at more impact positions like RUSH or CB or even OT?

    Esp when Pace has the chance to sign Norwell in FA (hey, i heard Slauson was available!)

    Chubb like Long? Hmmm is an Izzy type worth top 10 pick?

    Agree about Ridley being a poor man’s Cooper. If that’s his ceiling, and Tyvon Austin his floor, I’d take Paul Richardson all day every day over that.

    • SC Dave

      One million thumbs up for BONGOS!!!!

    • SC Dave

      Only the losers pretend it’s entirely luck. it excuses their failure.

      On the OG thing, I’m okay with drafting a G in the top ten. *If* that guy brings an entire new attitude and swagger to the entire unit.

      An infectious obsession to DESTROY the men in front of them. Film says that is exactly what Nelson LOVES to do.

      So fuck, sign Norwell AND draft Nelson. Bookend them opposite Cody – the whole concept gives me goose bumps.

      BRUTALIZATION of enemy DLs. Application of pain leading to demoralization. And Howard, instead of turning 3 yard gains into 12, turns 10 yard gains into 30. Over and over.

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        I once had a bad businessman (who was family) I was working for have another really bad idea who said “everything is a chance.”

        I wanted to slap the bastard.

        • Family and biz can be a toxic mix.
          My best bud gave his bro a job cuz he just had a kid. One would assume his bro would be grateful. Nope. Ended up resenting the situation and half assed it, and my best bud was left having to decide whether or not to fire him w a new born.

          • CanadaBear

            I know a guy that’s a colossal drunk and he’s furious because his brother has a huge construction company and fired him. The drunk was made the safety coordinator for the company and got popped for a DUI (not the first). Nothing like taking responsibility for your actions!

      • Jeff argues the same for FF. Now, whether a fan likes it or not is irrevelevant. Luck is involved but it’s no coincedence that either I or Shady have won Da League the past 4yrs or so.

        And it’s not for lack of trying. Some pretty smart, savvy , competitive regs have been in that league, like GP, NB, Sac, Artoo, Ender, 505, Doc, Irish, etc.

        Sure, sometimes ur stud goes down at the worst time, but if ur good, more often than not, ur winning.

        It’s the same w the draft and a lot of other stuff.

        Life is about probabilities. If a person has the smarts, intincts and determination, that goes far in eliminating the bad bounces.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Scratch my name off that list, Candy Ass!

          • CanadaBear

            That was my nickname at work thanks to a co-worker. I rode the bicycle to work year ’round in Calgary. Any time I drove to work I would be Candy Ass. Didn’t make any difference if there was ice everywhere and the temp was -20, I was still Candy Ass. Good times!

          • Haha you did play in the league, just not the past 2 yrs cuz u escared of auction.

            How u are in a million leagues but not like auction baffles me.

            It’s waaaaaay better than snake draft.

            Where else will Cutler go essentially in the same round as Vadgers. Get some!

        • CanadaBear

          Don’t throw your elbow out patting yourself on the back.

          • Ill try not to! But i also was complimenting Shady (where art thou Shady!?)

            Thems are the fact tho.
            505 has become really good too, but hasnt won it all yet.

          • CanadaBear

            I don’t play because I’m not into FF but I also make it a point not to compete against people that run the game or make up the rules. e.g. Crazy card games or crazy pool games. It’s a recipe to get fleeced.

          • Our league has been pretty standard for like 3-4 yrs.
            I think the only big difference is it’s 2 QBs and waiver wire bid.

            There was 1 yr when Shady awarded like 6points for QB TDs and 1yr I included a Punter just for fun, but it’s rather standard otherwise.

            No 7s are wild stuff.

            Man, havent played pool in months. Some Italian fam taught me how to play growing up. It was a bunch of brothers , cousins, uncles who hosted tournaments at their houses.

            Holy crap, they were serious about it!

            Thought i might have to sleep w the fishes if i lost lol

          • CanadaBear

            We got a pool table in the house when I was about 12. Not a great table but I played a lot. Was decent but I was so cheap back then if I played for money I would choke up. Playing in bars I would be loose as a goose and pretty decent but we were always playing for drinks so at some point I’d fall off a cliff.

            In cards we used to play dealers choice and we usually had 7 people. Lots of fun with a quarter as a max bet and 3 raises, no matter how bad or unlucky you were, the most anyone lost was around $20. Some of those fuckers would always play games with wild cards, esp after having a few too many bevvies. At some point I would play night baseball. That would usually calm some of those fuckers down. Being the dealer in night baseball, I would have to keep throwing in without seeing any cards for the longest time. Almost zero strategy and blind dumb luck.

            Just in case you don’t know the rules to night baseball; all 7 cards are down, 3’s and 9’s are wild and 4’s are an extra card. The guy to the left of the dealer rolls over a card and then you bet. The next guy has to keep rolling cards until he beats the card. Every time a player beats the card(s) on the table there is a round of betting. All the years I’ve played, not once have we ever run out of cards for the last 4. Lots of people bail. it’s a maddening game that requires 5 of something to win in most cases. Wheeeeeee!

          • I don’t play too many games with my friends anymore. I just don’t see them enough. But also, my friends are EXTREMELY competitive.

            When I hang out, I just want to listen to music, talk shit, have fun.

            Seems like focusing trying to win cancels out the whole point of kicking back and getting buzzed!

            With my fam it’s more laid back, so I can win or lose without it being a big deal. Though there’s always that ONE fam member who takes it way too seriously lol

            Wow. I never even heard of night baseball. Is that a regional/generational thing?

            Granted, I don’t play many card games outside of Texas No Limit and Blackjack (at casinos)

            5 of a kind seems waaaay too arbitrary. Reminds me of Worf saying only women play with so many wilds!

            Sounds like fun though. After a few beers, most games are though.

          • CanadaBear

            It was a horrible game but other people got the hint and stopped with the wildcards. We played a lot 7-card stud, 2 down, 4 in the middle and the last one down. Always liked that one. I usually played with guys from work. The core group all worked together for the better part of 20 years. Only once in all that time did someone get really pissed and that was due to alcohol and possibly some of the worst luck I’ve ever seen. He came in second all night. Guys were hitting inside straights, flushes, full houses, on the last card against him and he finally lost it. We teased him about it for a long time. I think he was the biggest loser at any of our games and I know it was under $30.

          • Ugh. I know the feeling.

            I went all in right before the river hoping for a straight. I don’t know why, but I just had this feeling I would hit it. Also, the pot was kinda big, and wanted to bully the rest out.

            To my dismay, BOTH players matched me. FUCK!

            Card flips, I hit the straight! booya.

            Unfortunately, that last card also made a straight and FULL fucking house for the other two players. UGH.

            We do the same with the fam. Mostly quarters (though few times some ppl had to go to the store for more quarters lol)

            When ppl play for real $ just changes the mood/atmosphere.

            Should tell your co-worker, “hey, bad at cards, lucky at love…oh, you’re alone too, sucks for you!”

      • DaBearsBlog

        Well Bill Belichick is an awful drafter. It’s luck. Pure and simple.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I dunno, I think Sitton is another Slauson move, and a mistake – he had a year left in him. Pace is building up cap space for reasons best known to himself. But Nelson opposite Sitton with WH in the middle …. let Long take care of RT maybe. Instead we’ll have .. .God knows.

        • SC Dave

          Pace seems inclined to get rid of guys a year early, rather than a year late. Is that better? I don’t know.

        • I think PFF graded Sitton as the 6th best OG in the league.
          I’ll wait and see who Pace signs to replace him, but it doesn’t get me excited, that’s for sure.

          • CanadaBear

            Apparently they got rid of Slauson because he didn’t fit the offense. I’m guessing that’s the reason for Sitton getting released. Seems dubious to me but I’ll wait until they start the season to see how it looks.

    • ButtonShoes

      Jeff saying the draft is a total crapshoot is simply a way for him to excuse the terrifically bad drafting record of the Bears over the past quarter century or so. When it comes to this team, there is no amount of ineptitude he won’t excuse as long as he likes the people running things.

      • I think i read somewhere that the Texans still had like 10 1st rd picks still on their team (and that was before Watson).

        I was shocked and awed.

        Imagine if the Bears had that level of draft excellence?

        We wouldnt be drafting in the top 10 for like the 5th yr in a row, that’s for sure.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          Curious why you chose the Texans here. They’ve got essentially the same record as the Bears since their inception minus the Super Bowl appearance and NFCC game loss to the Pack.

          Houston’s level of draft excellence has netted them exactly nothing.

          • I’m not talking about them since their inception. I specifically cited about 10 drafts , so let’s look at their draft picks and record the past decade

            2008. OT Duane Brown. 8-8
            2009. lb Cushing 9-7
            2010 CB Kareem Jackson 6-10
            2011 DE Watt 10-6
            2012 OLB Mercilus 12-4
            2013 WR Hopkins 2-14
            2014 Rush Clowney 9-7
            2015 CB Kevin Johnson 9-7
            2016 WR WR Fuller 9-7
            2017 QB Watson 4-12 (only cuz Watson INJ)

            1. Their drafting is not luck. Many times they drafted lower than Bears and still drafted better ( Mercilus prime example)

            2. Waaaay more competitive than Bears on a consistent level. This in spite of questionable QBs like Hoyer.

            If you wanna go back from franchise inceptions than Bears are better than Pats cuz we likely have more wins and championships, but that would be pretty silly .

            Bears would kill for a Watt , Hopkins, Brown or Clowney. Only Hicks is even in the same zip code, and he wasnt even drafted.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            But all that draft success you’re pointing to didn’t even get them Lovie Smith Era results. And that division has historically been shit, other than the Manning Colts. I just don’t see your point. They haven’t won anything.

            You poke fun at Lovie Smith, but laud the Texans draft success despite the fact they don’t rise to the Lovie benchmark.

          • My point is that drafting is not pure luck like Jeff stated.

            2nd point that those better players translates to more consistency and competitiveness.

            Neither of those points can be refuted as the Texans have shown

            Who do you think Vegas would have as bigger long shots of SB champs in 18?

            This doesn’t mean that a team doesn’t need a good coach or franchise QB to win it all.

            That’s why i chose the Texans. They never had a great HC-QB combo like the Bears, but the difference is they weren’t drafting Shea, Carimi or White

          • SC Dave

            The Bears have never had a great HC-QB combo, unless you’re talking Halas and Luckman.

          • True, and that’s really the only hope Bears fan harbor going forward.

            I never really bought into O’brien as HC, and I still believe Trub is a better long term QB than Watson, so if Nagy-Trub > Obrien-Watson duo, that can mask a lot of draft and FA blunders , as Bill-Brady combo have shown.

        • DaBearsBlog

          The Texans are 8-8 every year. Fielding first rounders is fine but does it matter if they’re mediocre?

          • I posted their record for the past 10 yrs below. More often than not, they’re 9-7 , whic is playoff material.

            Isn’t that what fans want? To be relevant in Dec, make the playoffs, and have a chance?

            Pace would kill for 8-8.

            In fact, more optimistic fans project that record for Bear this yr.

            I bet Texans fans think that’s the FLOOR for their team in 18.

            Must be nice.

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      The ‘ this is a weak WR class’ comment always intrigues me. You’re only looking for one guy. The relative quality of the class is irrelevant. If you can spot talent, you can get your guy.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

        Completely agree. This applies to coaches, QBs, etc. All of it.

      • Julio Jones and AJ Green were in the same draft class. Wouldnt you want that in THIS class instead of Ridlley and some project?

        That’s all a weak or strong (anything) means. Gaurantees nothing, but increases probabilities of landing a stud.

        Can the Bears get lucky and land a Ju-ju or Michael Thomas? Sure.

        But you cant tell me you would’nt prefer a Megatron, Julio or AJ Green type prospects over these WRs.

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    • CanadaBear

      I’m OK with the G at 8 if HH vouches for him. Who knows him better? Otherwise, I agree that’s normally too high for a G. Although, the way the game is changing G’s are more important than ever. That quick passing game neutralizes the DE’s and the D has to disrupt up the middle.

      • I dunno about this vouching stuff. Long vouched for Grasu.

        Also, I think EVERYONE is gonna vouche for Nelson. It would be a “safe” pick no one will boo.

        I’m more against it on philosophical grounds. I believe in draft positional value.

        So for instance, let’s say hypothetically

        Chubb = Izzy ( a good not great player)
        Nelson = Kreutz ( a great tough SOB)

        One could make the case for either, but I might lean towards Chubb simply because OGs tend to be easier to land (and develop) than rush.

        For instance, Norwell is a top OG on the FA market. It’s not uncommon.

        There is no rush equivalent for that in FA. It’s rare for that level of pass rusher to ever hit FA.

        So it’s supply and demand.

        And look at our recent history at OG. Slauson, Sitton, Long, even Kush and Larsen have played well.

        Bears seem to do a decent job of developing OG. Rush, OTH, opposite Floyd, we essentially got nothing.

        So for me, it’s both positional value and need.

        Plus I’m willing to bet that many of the top OGs were drafted out of the 1st across league, so there’s a track record there.

        That’s just my take. I won’t be pissed if Nelson is the guy. I can see that argument.

        But my question would be, “Why not sign Norwell” and save our 1st for another need?

        That’s just my take.

        • CanadaBear

          Long wasn’t Grasu’s line coach. HH has been an OL coach forever and is universally regarded as one of the best in the business. So yeah, if he says Nelson’s the goods, I believe him. Everything I’ve read Chubb goes top 5. I don’t really care who they draft at 8 as long as it’s at a position of need and they live up to the draft position.

          • Bear Instincts

            Who we draft at 8 does not matter so long as it compliments the other moves we make in the draft and FA.

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  • Irish Sweetness

    Moves are being made. We’re not making any, except the usual culling of guys we could use.

    • BenderMcLugh

      Yeah man, Altered Carbon is excellent

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

      Who? I saw Robert Quinn is headed to the Dolphins. They’re only giving up a fourth rounder for him but taking on a big contract for a guy that’s been pretty beat up. If their cap situation is as tight as Butch mentioned yesterday, they’re gonna have to deal somebody………….hmmmm.

  • leftcoastdave

    Santucci arguing the need at WR not so dire.

    I agree that the draft and FA should primarily focus on CB and LB/Edge. Lots of good options at WR down the draft board but right now, CB is the money position to be drafting and OLB/Edge always the biggest need.


  • Bear Instincts

    Report: Bears, Dolphins talking Jordan Howard-Jarvis Landry trade

    I was joking yesterday when i said draft S.Barkley and trade J.Howard but this is something else.
    We get Landry, the 11th pick and a 3rd for J.Howard and the 8th pick.

    • This makes sense. I brought this up before, but I can’t think of ONE WCO HB who had stone hands.

      Not one, esp from Reid’s tree (Hunt/Ware/West/Jamaal Charles/Westbrook). His system doesn’t just value pass catching HB, it depends on it .

      If we can get an extra 3rd plus Landry , I would consider that a win. It would prove that Pace too believes this is a weak WR class, while HBs tend to be easier to land.

      The other thing is that Howard is a banger, and he may not last as long as say Forte.

      We already rode him for two yrs, and last season he was already playing with one shoulder.

      I love Howard. Think he’s a baller.

      But Landry is at his level. Plus a 3rd. We only fall back 3 spots and lose some cap, which we have plenty of.

      On an objective level, this would make sense for both clubs

      (On a side note might signal MIA in QB market)

      • Bear Instincts

        Howard is a banger and that why we need him. When the O could not get any traction last year he was the lone bright spot making things happen.

        I get the Hands of Stone. But he,s one of ours. It feels like we are losing on this one especially with the availability of A.Wilson and Paul Richardson. Plus there are other WRs in the draft.

        • But two down backs, no matter how great, are relatively easy to find.

          Think of it in these terms: would you trade a young Alfred Morris or Blount for Landry and a 3rd?

          ” The 25-year-old Landry has an unprecedented 400 catches in his first four NFL seasons”

          That’s a LOT of catches. That could help Trub big time. And Landry is only 25, in his prime.

          Bears can always switch to a 3HB rotation like the Pats/Eagles.

          We already have Mocha Ninja – we can easily get 2 more (or just one more if ur sold on Benny)

          I agree on Wilson and Richardson, but I just don’t think Pace will sign two WR FAs.

          I think he’ll get Wilson, and some 4rth rd WR and call it a day, hoping Cam and White become a thing.

          • SC Dave

            Fuck, Forte as an old back caught 102 passes as, what 80% of this fucking b;log?, called as “washed up” RB. And you think some fucking diva is worth getting in exchange for BY FAR the best offensive player on our roster?


            Gawd, it’s like the Forte shit all over again.

            You know, where this fucking blog didn’t want to give Forte a second contract so that he could, instead of being the #1 player in the NFL in yards from scrimmage after four years, became the same after eight?

            Fuck… I have no idea what to say this time.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            I feel like you’re leaving out the Robbie Gould thing.

          • SC Dave

            Facts are stubborn thing, Johnny. Bottom line is that Matt Forte was the most productive RB (oops, I mean most productive non-QB offensive player) in the NFL for his entire Bears career. Robbie was not the “most”, but he was close.

            And Jordan Howard, in a competent offense, will be the same. I can easily imagine him as the most productive yard gainer in the NFL.

            But people want to trade him for a diva slot receiver? Really?

          • Irish Sweetness

            I don’t think anyone would have that.

          • Doesn’t the fact that we were able to draft an HB in the 5th to replace Forte prove that HBs , esp 2 down ones, aren’t that hard to replace.

            Dion Lewis will likely hit FA.

            How much of a downgrade would he be from Howard?

            Not much, esp since he can catch, and esp when rotated w Cohen and Benny.

            I like Howard. But Pace seems obsessed w scheme fit (goodbye Sitton-Slauson)

            I think Howard is on the market, for better or worse

      • SC Dave

        Idiocy. It makes ZERO sense for us. Loser trade in every way.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Is this a thing or are you guys just spit-balling? Is this real-world?

    • SC Dave

      Terrible trade. Disaster.

      Worst idea since trading Greg Olsen for Chris Conte

  • MrBearsox02 .

    Now we have ,

    A new wrinkle now as 1/2 hour ago it was reported ( no kidding ) Bears
    and Dolphins were working on a deal to trade Jarvis Landry for RB Howard
    ! the deal would be a swap of the 2 players and of both teams 1st rd
    picks which is our 8 for fins 11 ! Also Bears would get Miami’s 3rd Rd
    pick ! Bad deal if you ask me as that creates a hole again and i
    believe we can get other WRs to fill holes . Not that i do not like
    landry , but the price is steep !

    • Bear Instincts

      I would rather trade the 8 to the cardinals plus someone else for their 15 plus Tyrann Mathieu and their 3rd

      • The thing is, it’s supposedly a good CB class, much better than WR.

        We’re set a S for now (Amos/Jackson).

        Mathieu can play CB, but I think he’s more of a FS.

        Plus, 3 spots in the draft might not sound that much, but after 12ish, they’re kinda the same until like pick 35.

    • SC Dave

      The Dolphins could give us their next 1st round pick for three years, and I’d still not remotely consider giving them Howard for fucking Landry.

      • BerwynBomber

        Three first rounders and Landry for Howard?
        I would.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          I think three firsts and Landry would get you a mid tier starter caliber quarterback.

          • CanadaBear

            Esp considering any GM that stupid is bound to field a team picking in the top 10 every year until he gets fired so those would be primo picks.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            It would make Ditka’s draft trade to get Ricky Williams look like loose change in the couch.

          • CanadaBear

            Back when those high first rounders were getting insane money, unless you loved the player that was a tough pill to swallow. Put the Loins in a tough spot with Megatron, Suh, Lezbo.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            Sucking at football was terribly expensive for the Lions back then.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, that’s an excellent point about the Lions.

            The previous CBA was not kind even if you nailed your 1st round pick.

  • Bear Instincts

    Source: Jarvis Landry-Jordan Howard trade a no-go

    So glad Pace cane to his senses. Landry is a diva which is the complete opposite of Howard. We can find WR talent in FA and the draft.

    No if Miami wanted to throw Suh in the mix that would be a differet ball game

    • I wouldn’t snuff out the possibility just yet.

      They might just not agree on certain details.

      This may also clue us in that Howard is on the trading block.

      Or, it could all be lies. WTH knows this time of yr lol

      • Bear Instincts

        Pace is putting up smoke screens again with all this talk of trading for Landry.

        If he could swing a trade for both of the Bills 1st rounders for our 8 and Howard I would be ok with that.

        • SC Dave

          Smh. Trade a way a bona fide stud for two guesses in the draft.

          Boggles my mind.

      • SC Dave

        For FUCKS SAKE, do NOT trade your best player.

        • CanadaBear

          You rarely get better trading your best players.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Not for Jarvis Landry at least.

        • CaponeBot 1.0

          if Jordan Howard is our best player we are fucked man, F.U.C.K.E.D.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            If it isn’t Trubisky, Pace is going to be looking for work before you know it.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Pace’s and Nagys contracts matchup so Pace will likely have another shot at the QB position, unless everything falls apart ala nessman.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            Boy, I don’t know about that. He’s on the books for three more years, right?

            I’d guess Trubisky gets all of 18 and 19 before we really know. But if he sucks, the Bears will still be losing. I can’t imagine Pace getting another bite at the apple if they keep losing like that.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Teams can be winning with crappy QBs ie Jags this year, any Bears team in playoffs for the last 40 years. If the rest of the team is built properly. He will probably get another shot.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            Nuh uh.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            LOL. Ya huh.

          • BerwynBomber

            A recent JWood article seemed to suggest we will know about Bisky by the end of the upcoming year. Not that he still wouldn’t have ’19 to prove himself.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            He’s probably right. But I bet he’d have to suck really, really bad for Bears brass to pull the ripcord and draft another QB a year from now.

          • BerwynBomber

            Agreed. That’s why I threw in that bit about ’19.

            I believe Wood’s argument was that QBs who are truly franchise guys finish in the top half of the league by their second year. (But I might be mistaken.)

          • CanadaBear

            Yes and yes. If MT and the offense get on track in 2018 and the defense continues to get better, no reason to think they can’t be .500 with the arrow pointing up. Not exactly what people want to hear but after the last 4 years I think it’s a realistic goal. I’m interested to see what ST’s will look like. Hopefully having a Dave Toub understudy is a good thing.

    • SC Dave

      I would have burned Pace in effigy for giving up Howard for Landry. And maybe even when the way of my mother and said “fuck the Bears, I’m going Packers now”, like she did over Dick-ta.

  • BenderMcLugh

    DJ Chark, WR, LSU. Seriously impressed with this guy.

    • Checked him out too.

      6’3 200. 4.37 40. Deum.

      Negatives. Straight line speed, not really agile. Limited route tree. Questionable hands. Easily jammed at the LOS.

      Haven’t watched his tape yet though.

      • BenderMcLugh

        4.34 official 40 time, his highlights show his separation, seems to catch everything, disagree about his agility tho and he can take a hit.


      • SC Dave

        Looks a bit like Kevin White

        • BenderMcLugh

          Reminds me allot of Alshon

      • MrBearsox02 .

        Ya need to watch his tape or easy enough just watch how he does senior bowl week and the game ! He is good across the board !

    • If you’re looking for the perfect WR for this offense, it’s DJ Moore.

      • BenderMcLugh

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  • SC Dave

    Wow… what a life. Imagine being Kevin White.

    Come out of college, play a few downs in the NFL, and go home with $16M and a mere leg injury.

    He would be an idiot to play.

    Go home with more money than the average six of us here will make in a lifetime, bustboy.

    • Bear Instincts

      His ego wont allow him to go home with the bust label until Pace kicks him out of Soldier Field unfortunately

      • CaponeBot 1.0

        his ego won’t let him or is it his character, heart, etc? Guys that make it to the pros are different than the normal person. Not all of them are Muhammad Wilkerson.

    • CanadaBear

      I’m guessing he can’t wait to play. At least I hope so.

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        There’s still a chance he could be better than Curtis Conway if he fully heals. (That wasn’t meant as sarcasm.) Giving the team anything at this point would be great. Goal line threat? He was supposed to be able to catch anything and everything with great hands and maybe he can finally show it in 2018.

        • CanadaBear

          Super frustrated with his career (I can only imagine how frustrated he is). I would love to see him get his career on track. As much for him (he seems like a genuinely nice young man) as for the Beloved.

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      60% of his guaranteed contract was the $10 million signing bonus?

      That’s a mighty expensive autograph.

      Pace should get it framed.

    • Hey, Wheaton got $6M for 3 catches. That’s $2M per catch.


      • Irish Sweetness

        Not for Ryan Pace. That’s shocking, damning, all of that.

  • leftcoastdave

    I could see trading Jordan Howard for draft picks, but not giving up the 8 in that trade unless a ton of picks were coming back. The issue is his hands, not his heart, plain and simple. And I would not do it for a WR we would be paying so much $$$ to sign. A monster Edge? Yup. But not a WR.

    • Irish Sweetness

      The only way I could allow JH out the door is if we’re getting Saquon Barkley. Then I’ll drive him.

      • leftcoastdave

        And wearing a uniform and calling him Miss Daisey? (he asks, tongue firmly planted in cheek)

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  • Irish Sweetness

    Landry’s tagged – or will be, he said …. so no more crazy talk. Stone hands stays. Roberto remains.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      they can trade a tagged player.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

        Pretty sure I read they tagged him and suggested he seek a trade.

      • Irish Sweetness

        To someone else!

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          yes. It happens almost every year.

  • KentuckyBearsFan

    “My top 5 films of the year” are….whatever the hell five new flicks I watched last year.

    Three Billboards was 80% good if you take out the short deer scene with Frances talking to herself. I could see Sam Rockwell winning best supporting actor.

    Lady Bird was all right. Reminding me how much high school sucks.

    • CanadaBear

      I can remember hating HS and having all these friends of my dad telling me to enjoy HS because it was the best time in life. All I could think was if this was the best, fuck me.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Yah, but you’d go back in a second knowing what you know now!

        1. Don’t try and make friends, just work out and do MMA.
        2. Stay away from alcohol.
        3. Don’t sell all your Star Wars comics for 2p each.

        • CanadaBear

          I’m with ya on 1 & 2. Never bought a comic book in my life.

          The problem is you only get one chance and most guys totally botch it. I was practically a monk in HS but once I got out, grew my hair long and became a hippie, life was pretty sweet for a while.

    • SC Dave

      I only saw Darkest Hour. It was good tho.

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        Haven’t seen it.

        I go back and forth on my opinion of Churchill, but at the moment I think he was a crazy evil bastard paid to play. But generally everybody not protecting their own turf seems batshit insane to me now.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I enjoyed it as much as I enjoyed Brendan Gleason and Albert Finney’s performances as Winnie.

  • catfish44

    Chicago Bears: Is 2018 Off-Season Reload or Rebuild?
    REBUILD 2.0
    With only 45 players currently under contract, by far the fewest in the NFL, the Bears have clearly signaled that the Rebuild Version 2.0 is beginning.
    Ryan Pace and Matt Nagy have begun to reshape the Bears roster in a way that many previously saw as highly improbable. It was not unreasonable for people to look at the roster and think that with some tweaking on defense, and an overhaul at a few positions on offense, this could be a team with a winning record and an outside shot at a wild card game. No one saw the Bears stripping down their roster to the studs to rebuild the house from scratch, but here we are.

    So What Does The Roster Currently Look Like?
    Currently the Bears have only 45 players on the roster according to Spotrac, and that is against the 90 man roster limit that you have from the start of the new season until the roster cut down toward the end of the preseason. That means that between now and the start of the pre-season, the Bears need to find 45 players to fill their roster with. That is not a reload, it’s a full blown rebuild.

    The 45 player count doesn’t even factor in other veteran players who look to be on the chopping block. Dion Sims, Markus Wheaton, Bobby Massie, and Marcus Cooper are all still on the bubble, and even though Kansas City kept a fullback on the roster, there is no guarantee that Michael Burton stays on the roster (though I hope he does). That could leave us with only 40 players under contract for next season.

    Even if the Bears bring back Kyle Fuller, Prince Amukamara, Sherrick McManis, Christian Jones, Sam Acho, Pat O’Donnell, Cario Santos, Benny Cunningham, Tom Compton, Dontrelle Inman, Kendall Wright, Josh Bellamy, and Bradley Sowell, that would only leave them with 53 players. Also, remember that a number of those players are practice squad candidates and on “futures/reserves” contracts and are not likely to make the squad next year. Those numbers leave Pace and Nagy with an incredible amount of work to do this offseason.

    Where Are The Biggest Roster Holes?
    At this point we have three positions in serious need of players, not to mention talent. After removing anyone on a futures/reserve contract, and based only on those who currently have a contract signed with the team, they are:

    Outside Linebacker:
    Roll Call: Leonard Floyd and Howard Jones

    Likely starters in 2018: Floyd & ??

    Wide Receiver:
    Roll Call: Markus Wheaton and Kevin White

    Likely starters in 2018: ??

    Roll Call: Marcus Cooper, Deiondre’ Hall, Doran Grant, and Crevon LeBlanc

    Likely starters in 2018: ??

    So Where Do We Go From Here?
    The Bears will need to move quickly and in many cases look for young players on the cheap to attempt to rebuild and fill so many roster holes. They will probably make a few larger signings this off-season. I would expect for most of the signings to be young players who are seen as having upside and who will be less expensive so that we can sign the sheer number of players that we need in order to fill out the roster.

    Chicago Bears Draft Scout: Uchenna Nwosu4h ago
    Billy Price is a Ryan Pace Type of Player23h ago
    Block or Not: Kyle Fuller1 d ago
    Picking a backup quarterback for Chicago Bears1 d ago
    Chicago Bears Draft Scout: Dorance Armstrong1 d ago
    My faith in Pace’s ability to rebuild the roster remains high overall. I think that with a coaching staff that is willing to work with him, and not one that wants to direct him, we will see a very different dynamic for the team. The issue for Pace is that at this point he’s put himself on the hook. He can no longer blame Emery for the lack of talent on the roster. At this point, the GM whose job he is cleaning up is himself.

    He managed to limit the damage with short contracts. Unfortunately only a handful of those contracts ever became something more substantial. Does some of that fall on Fox and Loggains? No doubt, but the real issue here is those players departure. No matter how deserved those departures are, they have left the team in the position of needing 45+ players. They only having 7 draft picks to fill them. This is going to be quite the interesting off-season indeed.

    That said, I still believe that Pace has the kind of eye for young draft talent that can lead the team to where it needs to go. His ability to find late round treasures and willingness to build a brain-trust of talented football minds should blend well together. Nagy also seems like the kind of coach who will take the talent he’s given and shape an offensive attack that maximizes their strengths and hides their weaknesses. This is the complete opposite of Loggains who expected everyone to play his system.

    In many ways, we will have to wait to see how things play out, but one thing is for sure, the roster of 2018 will have many new faces. I would guess somewhere in the neighborhood of 24 new faces at the start of the season. On a 53 man roster, that’s 45% of the roster being new to the team. It turns out that this off-season’s reload has turned into a full on rebuild instead.


    • BenderMcLugh

      You lost me at rebuild 2.0

      • catfish44

        anything longer than 4 words too much for your level of schooling??

        • catfish44

          4 words or less. I like Gay Sex.

          • Irish Sweetness

            We did not doubt that for a second,Catfish, nor would we hinder you in your pursuit of the aforesaid cock, and in fact we support you …. ‘Hurrah, Good Sir! … Gobble Gobble!’

          • catfish44

            I could care less what you think, you should run home to mommy you punk kid. Unless you are black then give me your number. I love me some big black cock.

          • Irish Sweetness


            I am black! I AM!

        • BenderMcLugh


          • catfish44

            limit appears to be one word.

    • catfish44

      Gay Sex: Shame-Free Tips on How to Be a Better Bottom

      While this is advice for those who identify as “bottoms,”
      anyone who has anal sex should have an understanding of the process
      involved in successful bottoming. It will help you be a better “top” and
      positively affect overall sexual experiences.

      The act of bottoming is a true art, and whether it’s your
      first attempt or you’ve been experimenting with it for quite some time,
      analyzing your readiness and the proper techniques not only allow you to
      reach heightened sexual pleasure, but also enable safe and enduring


      If you’ve never tried bottoming, but you’re curious, let’s
      just address straight away that it won’t always just happen right then
      and there. Successful and pleasurable bottoming takes time and practice
      through dilation exercises, training of your self-awareness, and control
      of the pelvic floor.

      The good news? Bottoming shouldn’t hurt. Of course, it may
      be uncomfortable at first and you might initially question how there
      could ever be pleasure in it — something that happens with vaginal sex
      the first time as well — but like anything it takes practice, patience,
      and following a few simple guidelines to enhance this sexual practice. I
      often tell patients that great bottoms have been doing it for quite
      some time, with many first experiencing it in their youth.
      Unfortunately, no one showed us the right way to bottom in our high
      school sexual education class. Still, it’s never too late to learn, and
      we all enjoy new and positive sexual experiences. Here’s my 101 guide to

      Begin with dilation: Get yourself an anal
      trainer kit and start training for dilation two to three times a week
      (for as little as five minutes each time). Use a water-based lubricant
      and start with the smallest plug. Insert just to the point of pressure.
      Hold it there for a few seconds, then try to engage the muscles. Allow
      yourself to relax before removing the plug, then re-lubricate and
      re-insert to the point of pressure. Repeating this process will prove
      successful over time, so don’t get discouraged if the first time you
      only get a small portion of the tip in. Repeat the process three to five
      times. The key is to remember there are three sets of muscles that need
      to relax for a successful entry. Think of it as a tunnel, and the
      entire tunnel needs to be a well-lubed cylinder. We don’t advise
      inserting the entire length of the plug and leaving it in on the first
      try, because removal may be difficult, which could cause tearing. If
      after four to five sessions you can insert that size without any issues,
      you’re ready to graduate to the next size. Don’t forget to enjoy it. If
      you become stimulated during the process, go for it! Not only is it a
      pleasurable side effect to your dilation training, but you can start to
      channel your orgasm anally and begin to gain control over time.

      Ready for the real thing: When you’ve
      successfully mastered a medium-size plug, you’re ready to graduate to
      the real thing. Congratulations! It’s always best to start off with you
      in total control and a partner you trust to be patient in letting you
      decide the level you’re comfortable with. Some people use dilators
      first, either with or without a sexual partner, to “warm up” and remind
      themselves of the practiced techniques. Once the engines have been
      started, the bottom needs to sit on the tip of the penis, allowing
      control of entry. Use plenty of lubricant and remember the different
      sets of muscles that need to be released to allow access. Start off
      using the same technique of inserting until you feel pressure, hold it
      there, pull out, re-lubricate and repeat. The three-to-five-time rule
      applies here as well. Being on top of the penis really allows for you to
      determine your level of comfort. If pain occurs, you can stop, call it a
      day, and try again another time. It’s not worth causing pain or a
      potential injury.

      Graduating to new positions: Once you have
      fully received the penis, the last hurdle is to add new positions into
      the mix, like doggy-style. Now, be sure to take this easy to begin with —
      it’s an intense position and tops can get a little eager. Make sure you
      have mastered receiving to minimize any injury and maximize pleasure.
      Start with you receiving on top and gaining control of your muscles
      before moving around to new positons.

      Injury happens to the best of us: Proper
      techniques are obviously a must, but even brand-new cars can break down.
      The most common issues related to anal sex trauma are tears, also known
      as anal fissures. If this happens, take a break but don’t get
      discouraged. Most anal fissures will heal themselves with proper care,
      but fissures that become chronic will require surgical intervention. If
      an injury happens, it’s best to analyze why it did so you can plan to
      avoid reoccurrence in the future.

      Be honest with your body: Small, petite
      frames and pelvises just may not be able to accept those of the more
      well-endowed variety. Be realistic with your goals, and realize that you
      may need work up to this over several months.

      Use it or lose it: The key to continued
      ease of bottoming is to be consistent in using the above dilation
      methods, even throughout sexual dry spells. We all have them, so don’t
      fret, but just remember if you don’t use it, you lose it. Keep at it so
      the next experience is a pleasurable one.

      Engage a specialist: The process to
      becoming a pro at bottoming can be daunting, but it is totally
      achievable if you follow the above process. If all else fails, see a
      specialist in gay sexual health and wellness, who can provide both
      medical — such as personalized dilation and Botox — and surgical options
      (including anal restoration) to help improve results and assist in
      relaxation of the muscles.

      ————————- https://www.advocate.com/current-issue/2017/3/03/shame-free-tips-how-be-better-bottom

  • BenderMcLugh

    On the topic of new things to watch, Big Mouth on Netflix is easily the best new comedic shtuff to hit in a while. Holy fuck is that shit funny

    • CanadaBear

      I’ll have to check it out. I just read a little about it, I’m sure it will make me laugh. That is one fucked up time in life, for sure.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Is it like the South Park for this generation? I need to laugh.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Janney wins the Oscar for I, Tonya. That’s great. She was great.

  • Irish Sweetness
  • Irish Sweetness

    Bradley Chubb, DE, N.C. State: The No. 1 pass rusher in the draft made a strong case to be considered the top overall prospect in the class. Chubb put up the kind of explosive numbers that make evaluators drool (4.65-second 40-yard dash; 36-inch vertical; 10-foot-1-inch broad jump and 24 reps on the bench press). He also displayed the natural movement skills and agility to be an explosive playmaker off the edge. In a league where dominant pass rushers are coveted at a premium, Chubb’s strong resume and prototypical traits could open the door for him to make a surprise run at becoming the No. 1 overall pick.

    Tremaine Edmunds, EDGE, Virginia Tech: The former Hokies standout has been on the rise since the end of the season as scouts started digging into the tape. Edmunds will continue to climb up the charts after a strong workout. Measuring 6-foot-5, 253 pounds, he blitzed a 4.54-second 40-yard dash and flashed explosive movement skills in drills. He changes directions like a defensive back while also displaying the first-step quickness and burst to turn the corner as a pass rusher. With Edmunds’ tape perfectly matching his skills, he’s more than worthy of consideration as a top-five selection.

    • That’s some Lach #s for Edmunds. Was on him early, but the secret is out.

      The only thing is, Barkley and Chub will go before him. So now we have to worry about 5 teams. I think at least 3 will go QB. So down to two teams.

      Some Oline needy teams might go for those Notre Dame maulers. FS Fitzpatrick will likely go.

      So i think it’ll be between CB Josh Jackson and Edmunds (or Nelson) at #8

      • Irish Sweetness

        So me might be ‘stuck’ with Nelson? I could live with that.

    • Ososfan

      His 3 cone time was suuuper trash though, and that’s important for pass rushers but he’s overall very good, I still don’t think Indy takes him, Luck might be out AGAIN…

  • Irish Sweetness

    Did we do Boobie Friday? No? Gee that’s a shame …

    I wonder if Jane Fonda can save Mammaries on a Monday?

  • BerwynBomber
    • Irish Sweetness

      But why? What does Pace think he has to trade with?

  • Irish Sweetness

    And they gave the Best Screenplay award to a racist piece of crap!! Best screenplay? The medical premise of the movies was impossible for starters. Absolute Bullshit. Up against Three Billboards and The Shape of Water. Bull.Shit.

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