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Audibles From the Long Snapper: A Few on 52 & Urlacher, Urlacher, Urlacher…

| February 5th, 2018

Five Super Bowl Thoughts

  • First Half Note 1: That was a horrible half of a football. Was it entertaining? Sure. But so is college football and that is rarely good either. Blown coverages, horrible tackling, wide open receivers, college-level kicking. This game should be the showcase of the league’s two best teams. Sadly, when it comes to the 2017 season, this game may be all we got.
  • First Half Note 2: The Eagles didn’t just look tougher, they looked like they had the better sideline. And even in the two Patriots Super Bowl losses, that was never the case. Pederson was running circles around Patricia.
  • Halftime: The halftime show was one of the greatest I’ve ever seen. Oh wait, no, I was cleaning my crockpot and listening to Harry Nilsson tracks in my kitchen while some people pantomimed horn playing in the middle of a football field for no reason whatsoever. Would love to see the NFL skip this worthless musical display one year and instead replace it with a speech from the Walter Payton Man of the Year winner after a short video presentation saluting that player’s work. Why not use your largest platform to promote some of the good being done by those involved in the game instead of promoting Justin Timberlake to sell some Pepsi?
  • Second Half Note 1: Tweeted a question. If you were the Eagles, and you won the Super Bowl with Foles, would you consider offering Wentz to the Browns for their two early firsts? Watching the second half, if I were the Eagles, I would even hesitate. Wentz is a terrific player but this Eagles team is proving they can win with Foles and he’s affordable. So why not stack the roster around him?
  • Second Half Note 2: Let’s be honest. This game came down to one play, the Brandon Graham sack/fumble of Brady late in the fourth. It was the only defensive play made in this Big 12 affair.
  • Final Thought: Think about what Doug Pederson and Nick Foles and the Eagles just did. They beat (a) the defending NFC champs (b) the league’s best defense and (c) Brady & Belichick en route to the franchise’s first Super Bowl title. This is legendary stuff in Philadelphia.

All Urlacher…after the jump!


Urlacher Into Hall of Fame (I)


Urlacher into Hall of Fame (II)

There have been many Urlacher pieces. It’s almost like the Chicago sports media like Brian way more now than when he played because now they’re getting content out of him. Adam Hoge has some solid quotes from relevant folks in his column:

“I think he’s the smartest player that I’ve ever played against,” Rodgers said. “No one has played the position like he did, with the freedom to check in-and-out of coverages. And obviously the talent is second to none — a guy that big, that fast, that athletic, and with those instincts.”

When informed of Rodgers’ comments, Urlacher reacted with a “wow” and needed a second to gather a response.

“It’s a huge compliment coming from him. We had some good, good battles. We went back and forth. Most of our battles happened at the line of scrimmage before the ball was even snapped. So to have him say that means a lot to me,” Urlacher said.

Former teammate Charles Tillman echoed a similar sentiment on the red carpet.

“Football IQ, I think that’s what set him a part from everybody else,” Tillman said. “He was the leader. He was the cornerstone. He was the rock. He was like that point guard. He set the tone, he set the pace for everybody. He was that big brother that you didn’t want to let down.”

Panthers tight end Greg Olsen, who played with Urlacher for four years, focused on the linebacker’s character.

“I think the best thing I can say about Brian is that he treated everybody in that organization — from the star quarterback all the way down to the ticket guy — the exact same. He made everybody feel important, he made everybody feel special. He was the ultimate leader. I can’t say enough about what he did for me personally and so many other guys,” Olsen said.

One of the first people to congratulate Urlacher Saturday was former Bears head coach Lovie Smith, whose Tampa-2 scheme allowed the linebacker thrive.

“We didn’t play ‘run down the middle every play’ Cover-2, we played attack-and-aggressive pass defense and we rushed the passer,” Urlacher said. “So (Lovie) just let me do things with my athletic ability and be around the line of scrimmage more — more picks, more passing plays, so he developed me.”


Urlacher into Hall of Fame (III)


Urlacher into Hall of Fame (IV)

And here are some links!

  • Listen, I hate The Athletic’s approach to basically everything. (Has anybody at that bastion of journalistic integrity asked about Durkin’s Twitter followers yet? Spoiler: They didn’t all come free of charge.) But it’s worth reading Dan Pompei’s breakdown of how he intended to present Urlacher to the room on Saturday. He succeeded.
  • Urlacher and Lance Briggs talk about football stuff on NBC Sports Chicago.
  • The responsible parties for “oral histories” should be drawn and quartered in the public square. EVERYTHING does not warrant a fucking oral history. Bears/Cardinals in 2006, a miracle in the desert, Brian Urlacher’s greatest game, does. In 2016, Dan Wiederer did that work for the Chicago Tribune.
  • Our own Data wrote a thank you to Brian Urlacher at some point for some other website. Why not read it HERE?
  • Here’s Urlacher with MMQB on concussions, Trubisky, his new hair and much, much more. Lach’s not the brightest bulb in the chandelier but he’s got some interesting things to say on football matters.

Urlacher into Hall of Fame (V)

Everybody has their favorite Urlacher plays. Mine was in Giants Stadium, 2006. Urlacher perfectly read a Chad Pennington pass in the end zone for a pick. I was right above it. (It is :30 into the following clip.)


Friday’s podcast will be dedicated to the Brian Urlacher HoF announcement. 

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  • Irish Sweetness

    Fuuuuuuuuck YOU Patriots!

    • John F

      Have to agree with this statement

    • AlbertInTucson

      Twice.

    • catfish44

      classy, as always.

    • That Guy

      +1000

  • CanadaBear

    With the evil empire you just keep expecting them to pull it out of their ass. Really a happy cat they didn’t. Nice to see the refs let them play.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I swear I thought Gronk was gonna pull that last one down in the endzone. And nobody would have blinked.

      • CanadaBear

        Right there with ya, brother man. I was so distracted I didn’t know the time ran out until I saw the ball on the ground.

  • willbest

    cant believe it was ertz

  • John F

    Philly may be completely on fire right now

  • BerwynBomber

    Happy the Pats lost but wow were those questionable calls.

    Don’t understand the Ertz call at all in relation to the Jesse James call near the end of the season.

    What does the whole maintain thru the ground thing even mean now?

    What a disaster.

    • willbest

      he took 3 steps and dived how was he not a runner

      • BerwynBomber

        But that is what Dez Bryant and James did too.

        • CanadaBear

          I agree with both of you!

        • AlbertInTucson

          When the contact came was the difference.

        • John F

          IT DOESN’T MATTER, THE PATS LOST

        • willbest

          dez didn’t break the plane

          • BerwynBomber

            But James did and as we learned the plane is immaterial to maintaining possession “thru the ground”.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Jeff said it.

      Michaels and Collinsworth, who normally don’t bother me, WERE clueless tonight.

      • CanadaBear

        I truly didn’t get their beef about the TD where he caught the ball, took a few steps, etc. I thought it was obvious he was a runner.

        • AlbertInTucson

          You and me both.

          Collinsworth got absolutely ridiculous going on and on about it.

          • SC Dave

            He wanted to cry that his Patriots lost.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Like I said in the previous post, last week Goodell basically said “I want less catches overturned”.

      Al Riveron like his job.

      He got the message

      • willbest

        only the first one was questionable and two called it a catch on the field

        • AlbertInTucson

          I am a little surprised that first one stood.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

      The catch rule is a disaster. But Ertz was definitely a runner in this case. James was borderline runner, receiver.

    • the NFL got it right re: the catch rule 2x last night. After a season of routinely getting it wrong.

      Now get that shit fixed this offseason.

  • beninnorcal

    I hope Nagy turns out to be half the coach Pederson is, very impressed by Pederson

    • BerwynBomber

      Agreed. What he did with Nick “Flacco” Foles is pretty remarkable.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Ahh. Flacco is worth pointing out.

        He hasn’t been “all that” since he cashed in.

        • BerwynBomber

          And he also had a remarkable post-season run a’la Foles. If I’m not mistaken Flacco still has the highest post-season passer rating for an individual year.

    • CanadaBear

      I was hoping they would pass it on 3rd down before the final FG. That was the only time I thought he was overly conservative. If Foxy had a 10 point lead at halftime he would take the air out of the ball immediately and try to make it stand up. Uh, no.

      • beninnorcal

        Let us never talk of Foxy here again, lol(not likely, am I right?)

        • CanadaBear

          My bad.

    • AlbertInTucson

      We can all dream.

    • ButtonShoes

      There’s no real evidence to say he will be or won’t be. Nagy, I mean. I know the Bears are betting on everyone believing that he’s the next McVay or Pederson, but with Pace’s track record I wouldn’t count on it. Still have to play the games regardless.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

      I love Pederson. He plays to win. There are several times in a game where a coach has to decide if he’s playing to win, or playing to not lose. Perderson plays to win.

      That man needs a wheelbarrow to carry his nuts in.

    • Irish Sweetness

      He doesn’t color his hair either. Impressive!

  • John F

    Foles baby not listening ……. weak

    • AlbertInTucson

      Like your posts tonight?

  • CaponeBot 1.0

    Nick Foles from almost quitting the game to super bowl mvp. Warrior.

    • BearDown100393

      And back to carrying a clipboard.

    • willbest

      kurt warner 2.0

      • BerwynBomber

        More like Trent Dilfer 2.0.
        Warner might one day end up in Canton. Hard for me to imagine the same for Foles.

        • willbest

          wasn’t warner inducted 2 years ago?

          • BerwynBomber

            Was he? Well there you go.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Just last year, I think.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Probably closer to Jeff Hostetler.

        • No way Dilfer makes those throws tonight and scores 41. No way.

  • SC Dave

    Alshon Jeffery, Super Bowl Chsmpion.

    Congrats!

    • John F

      Yes

    • CanadaBear

      Gilmore erased him once he was assigned to him. Still glad he had a good game.

      • SC Dave

        Belichick ALWAYS takes someone away.

        • AlbertInTucson

          He was late taking him away tonight.

          • And Pederson just used Ertz and Aghlor.

            That was Billish.

            take away Cooks, fine, kill you with Gronk, Edlemen or Lewis.

      • Told you to pound the under on Alshon’s 4.5 catches.

    • BerwynBomber

      Better him than Martellus.

      I’m kinda indifferent about Shea.

    • He did say his team was going to the SB this yr. Just diff zip code.

  • beninnorcal

    Jeff, what did you make in your slow cooker?

    • beninnorcal

      Inquiring minds want to know..

      • AlbertInTucson

        “Cooked Goose” in honor of the Pats.

    • Just don’t the Rev that.

  • John F

    The best part of this game was Brady blowing it by fumbling in the fourth

    • beninnorcal

      I yelled at the tv at that point
      ‘Fuck you, Brady!’

    • ONE sack. ALL game. By EITHER team.

      Couldn’t have scripted it better.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Reverend Dungheap preaching the lord, again.

    • Just like Ray Lewis whose white suit was raptured.

      • AlbertInTucson

        White suit on a black man.

        i KNOW TV engineers trying to shade camera’s on him were cursing his name.

  • BearDown100393

    Dungy selling God loves the Eagles. Forget about simply outworking the opponent.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Foles plans on being a Pastor after football, so maybe he had an in with the Big Guy.

      • And God loved Raplisburg more than holy-roller Warner.

        Goodell giveth, Goodell taketh away…

      • Irish Sweetness

        Pederson thanked his savior also.

  • BerwynBomber

    “If you were the Eagles, and you won the Super Bowl with Foles, would you consider offering Wentz to the Browns for their two early firsts? Watching the second half, if I were the Eagles, I would even hesitate.”

    Better yet a sign and trade of Foles. His value will never be higher.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Foles is already under contract for next year.

      • BerwynBomber

        Easier still then.

    • CaponeBot 1.0

      Lurie called Wentz their franchise qb. I’d love them to keep Foles as insurance for next year but you have to do the guy a favor and let him go get a shot somewhere. He just stepped up like a boss.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        What if that shot they give him is with the Browns…. not much of a favor.

        • CanadaBear

          Look at how much money McCown has made since he signed with the Beloved. He played for some shitty teams but he made some serious cash. Really happy for him.

      • BerwynBomber

        I’d actually love to see them trade Wentz (a no-brainer for Jeff) as I don’t think the Foles thing is sustainable, and PHI will be scary enough just with Pederson.

  • BerwynBomber

    Not a good day for Matt Patricia.

    Hope you enjoyed that, DET. I’m guessing somewhere Jim Caldwell did.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Loins fans have to thinking “Nick Foles? Really, Matt?”

  • AlbertInTucson

    This blog would be melting down if the Bears new HC hire had been Matt Patricia.

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      ….maybe a defensive philosophy of allowing a hell of a lot of yards doesn’t always work.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Belichick disciple, Rodney “Colin Kaeperniik isn’t Black” Harrison Basically said the talent drain on the Pats defense finally caught up with them.

        Plus, One of their BEST defenders, Patrick Chung was out of the game again on that last Eagle TD drive.

        • BenderMcLugh

          Apparently the m.o. for beating the Pats is to knock out (literally) a few top players per game.

        • CanadaBear

          I thought Chung coming back in the game was pretty suspect. The RB (can’t remember if it was Blount or Ajayi) pantomimed he was asleep. I took that to mean he was KO’d. The way he was laying there he looked like he was KO’d. Then the next thing you know he’s back on the field. I’m guessing he was loopy because Hoodie took him out a couple of times after that.

      • Clara

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    • ButtonShoes

      Nagy took responsibility for blowing the second half against the Titans. So it’s not like we aren’t in the same boat as the Lions.

  • ButtonShoes

    “”If you were the Eagles, and you won the Super Bowl with Foles, would
    you consider offering Wentz to the Browns for their two early firsts?
    Watching the second half, if I were the Eagles, I would even hesitate.”

    Saying things like this is why you aren’t a GM, Jeff.

    • BerwynBomber

      Totally inane UNLESS they know Wentz’s knee injury will seriously compromise him moving forward.

      Foles deserves all the props and rewards he’ll justly receive for his post-season performance. But I still doubt the guy is as good as even Flacco.

      I’m convinced this was mostly planets aligning once a millennium type stuff. But I do think it speaks miles about Pederson and company.

  • CanadaBear

    Do any of you guys know why Malcom Butler was benched for the game (other than ST’s).

  • Irish Sweetness

    Tune in live to Philly!

    I got the “FUCK TOM BRADY” song already from a drunk ‘lady’.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Pats tie Denver for most SB losses?

    Losers.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Collinsworth, for all his stupidity over the Ertz TD, DID make a cogent point late in the game:

      After the incomplete pass on the sideline just before the Hail Mary, he noted
      “I would rather have 2 shots at the endzone than that 9 yards”.

      As it turned out, that incomplete pass DID cost the Patriots a second shot into the end zone when the clock expired during the first one, which with Gronk under it, had a fighting chance of completion.

      • beninnorcal

        I think Brady was just trying to shorten up the hail mary but you are right, the time lost was huge.

        • Not to mention that BONEHEADED special teams reverse. That cost about 10 seconds and 10 yds.

          • SC Dave

            I did not understand that at all.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            Yeah, but if it works he’s a genius.

          • Scharfinator

            Desperation.

  • AlbertInTucson

    You just KNOW the legion of self-entitled Patriot fans were confident of victory right up until, basically, time finally ran out tonight.

  • BerwynBomber

    If not for a horrendous Pete Carroll call and the worst post-season collapse ever, the Pats could be 3-5 in SBs.

    Ah, what mighta been …

    • AlbertInTucson

      Meh, if not for two miraculous catches by the Giants they could be 6-2.

      Maybe 7-1 if they don’t kick the ball to Desmond Howard.

      • BerwynBomber

        I wouldn’t call Manningham’s catch “miraculous”.

    • Yup.

      Better lucky than good…

  • ButtonShoes
    • BerwynBomber

      Even at #8 the Cheese are still way overrated.

      • ButtonShoes

        It’s that Rodgers bias. They’ll always get ranked that high because of that asshole.

      • CanadaBear

        I had to laugh when I saw the Beloved at 31. Apparently someone wasn’t impressed with the coaching hire.

        • AlbertInTucson

          These ratings aren’t worth enough to get a cup of coffee at Circle K.

    • Irish Sweetness

      “Trubisky posted the second-worst Total QBR (29.2) …”

      He was second-WORST ???

      • I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess the worst was Kizer.

        The worst who didn’t get benched, at least, cuz Glennon would’ve gave both a run for their money.

      • ButtonShoes

        Apparently he was? In the league last year. Not all-time, I think.

  • beninnorcal

    How about that 99 year old Eagles fan they showed up in the box? Fan since the 30’s, I was really pulling for them after I saw that guy.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Please, Bears, don’t ,make me wait til i’m just shy of the century mark to celebrate a SB win!

      • SC Dave

        *Another* Super Bowl win, you mean.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Yes. We stand corrected.

  • AlbertInTucson

    BTW, Super bowl fare here tonight was a14”, thin crust from Dominos with Italian sausage, mushrooms, green peppers and black olives.

    Quite yummy, thank you.

    I knew regulars would want to know. (Sarcasm).

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

      Our local Dominoes had a campus Special when I was in college. A $5 large, 1 topping, I guess it was thin crust. I suppose they may have only had one crust option then. For about a year, that was my dinner every Thursday night. I’d eat the whole thing in one sitting and still only weigh 175. Ah the good old days. I felt like a king.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I hadn’t had pizza since before Christmas.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          WHY????

    • CanadaBear

      The closest bar to my house had the best halibut and chips in town. Tons of TV’s, good service and super nice owners. Of course, the bar closed down about a month ago. DAMN!

  • AlbertInTucson

    In the excitement I forgot to tune into Sirius and the Patriot Broadcast to hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth.

  • Mike Glennon

    Great game.
    I know da bears can get here next year and get a ring!
    LETS GOO BEARS

    • It’s a copy cat league, so Mike Glennon, SB LIII MVP

    • Nancy Glennon

      Mikey, I am so glad you finally came out of your room. Are you feeling better? I know getting benched this last year really got to you. I thought you would never stop crying.

  • Clara

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  • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)
  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Turns out the Foles TD catch was the product of a “stolen” play. Who did they steal it from? Da Bears!
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/05/eagles-take-a-page-out-of-the-bears-playbook-for-philly-special/

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

      Bring back Loggains!

      • SC Dave

        hahaha

    • leftcoastdave

      I guess we can take that one out of the playbook for a while unless someone figures out another wrinkle to it.

  • SC Dave
  • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

    I kept hoping Foles would run one on last night to complete the Trifecta. I wonder if any QB has ever, thrown, caught, and rushed for a TD in the Super Bowl. I was hoping to hold the elusive answer for future trivia purposes.

    • SC Dave

      That would have been fun for sure. But the right team lost, so it’s all good.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      No. No QB has ever thrown for and received a TD in a Super Bowl until Foles did it.

  • BearDown100393

    The Patriots were out coached, outplayed and outworked.

  • evantonio

    Was it worth the Pats getting the calls/TD reversals all season/playoffs for the Ertz one to (rightfully) stand?

    Sure. Why not.

  • That Guy

    I know this is not any evil intent on Brady, but did anyone else notice on the strip/sack, how after the ball was out of Brady’s hand, he made an emphatic throwing motion, just in case the ball was moving forward when he lost it, so it could be called an incomplete pass?

    Again, it’s just smart playing and good awareness, but the fact that the QB would even so blatantly mime something to get a favorable call says something about the game. It was obviously a fumble caused by the rusher, but if it had happened a couple hundreths of a second later, Brady’s arm is coming forward just enough for the refs to give him a mulligan and call it an incomplete pass.

    Same way with Ertz and his TD. He took 3 steps, so that’s what makes it a complete pass and TD rather than an incomplete pass. If the ball arrives a few hundreths of a second later, his first foot is coming off the ground rather than coming down, and he never “becomes a runner,” and then he never “completes the catch” by “surviving the ground.”

    When a game can be completely changed because a couple plays hinge on rules that are affected by periods of time that pass by faster than any human can react, those rules need to be changed.

    And/or replays under review cannot be viewed at anything except actual speed by the officials. No more super slo-mo; then we can get back to replay making certain no egregiously bad calls get unfixed. As it is now, we’re trying too hard to be exact with things that are beyond human capability in real time. Replay should be about fixing screw ups, not attaining perfection.

    • willbest

      The only time slo-mo or still frame should be used is if they are reviewing a ball spot/plane break. Everything else should be reviewed at normal speed with no more than 5 total watches from all angles combined. If the reviewer still doesn’t know, field call stands

      • AlbertInTucson

        I have said it often.

        I would ban slo-mo and zoom-in in replay, period.

        Real time.

        30 seconds max.

        Field ref NOT involved.

      • evantonio

        i don’t care about slo-mo or still frame. replay is there to get the calls right, so get the calls right.

        the system is broken because the analysts/network ref guys often need to explain why it doesn’t matter what you’re seeing because you have to remember XYZ.

        NO. I don’t have to remember XYZ! I saw him catch the damned ball and so did you.

      • The thing is, history WILL use slow-mo to pick the play apart as if it’s the JFK assassination.

        And if slo-mo reveals it wasn’t catch, then the NFL will fear that game/title is somehow tainted and de-legitimize the game.

        It’s one thing to make a bad call before technology like with the Immaculate Reception – (which the Raiders still swear wasn’t a catch), it’s quite another when it’s on film.

  • leftcoastdave

    And now for something completely different.

    How many others on the blog were happy to see the missed extra points resulting in the ordinarily “bad” pool numbers of 2 and 6 showing up to win pools with even five a possibility?

    Those trying to rig a pool had their comeuppance.

    • evantonio

      it screwed my 3-6, but put my 9-2 into play.

      in my pool, the people who get 2-2 and 5-5 get their money back because “there’s no way those numbers hit!”

      well, joke’s on us, because that 2-2 guy walked out with 11k at the half (buy-in + 10k half)

      • I’ve only seen them where people pick the squares they want. Then it’s easy to rig.

        • evantonio

          so you see the scores, then you pick? like, if i’m the first guy, i can just pick 7-4 if i want to?

          • Yep. Numbers involving 0, 4, and 7 go first, and the rest pretty much suck.

        • evantonio

          eh. that’s silly. i wouldn’t participate if all the good boxes were gone.

          “oh, $100 to buy the 5-2 box? sign me up!”

          with the blind buying, you’re buying the same chance at good numbers as everyone else.

    • The pool at my party last night did 5×5 squares (where each square is 2×2, so 0/1 0/1, for instance), to avoid rigging like that. I thought that was a good idea.

      Of course, the downside is there are only 25 squares. It was already filled up by the time I got there, without enough interest to do a 2nd one.

    • willbest

      How does one rig squares? Aren’t the side numbers randomly generated after you fill up the board?

      • leftcoastdave

        In theory. But any form of gambling, ie., “gaming” can be, and is “gamed.”

    • haha, I thought the same thing.

      Lotta ppl lost a lotta $ with the missed extra points and 2 point conversions.

  • evantonio

    Huh. Missed this on the play, but they probably should’ve thrown a flag on the defender here: https://twitter.com/Snack_TimeFS/status/960353386653630464/video/1

    • CanadaBear

      Gronk’s forearm shiver was a thing of beauty along with Hogan getting smoked.

      • evantonio

        yup. off-setting blindness on the part of the refs.

        • SC Dave

          I was good with it.

    • Pats messed that play up. For a Hail Mary, you’re supposed to have one guy who runs behind everybody, stays out of the jump, and hopes for a tip they can try to catch.

      That tip was there at the back last night. The Pats just didn’t send a guy there like they were supposed to.

      • John F

        Pats didn’t have timeouts to remind the players of that, but they should have remembered on their own. Brady made some really bad decisions the last couple series.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          Brady sucks.

          • John F

            At the end of the game he sure did

      • CaponeBot 1.0

        If I remember correctly there was a guy right there waiting for that rebound and the ball bounced awkwardly off of a Philly defender on the way down and flew in the opposite direction.

        • Yep, but he was waiting in front. You’re supposed to have a guy behind the fray ready to swoop in.

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            if guys are knocking it down from behind i’d stay in front. Oh well, dudes were all flying through the air. it’s a crapshoot. Folesy did it, played like a champ.

      • That Guy

        I think they weren’t playing for the Hail Mary. Ball was snapped with 13 seconds left in the game. Only the pressure on Brady, forcing him to move, disrupted what was probably supposed to be a deep out first (to set up a shorter Hail Mary on the next play), and so the second option was throw deep.

    • I thought the game was well officiated.

      They didn’t call that Hogan wipe out, but they also didn’t call that blatant block smash of the CB near the goaline.

      They pretty much let em play consistently.

    • That Guy

      They’d have to throw a flag on Gronk for OPI, too, the way he initiated contact with his arm and threw the guy off.

      Do offsetting fouls mean an untimed down? I think it doesn’t.

      I don’t think any ref wanted to throw a flag that gave New England a chance at winning. The impression that the refs are in the bag for New England is bad enough as-is; throwing a flag at the end of the Superb Owl that gives Brady another chance would be the story of the game.

  • CanadaBear

    I wasn’t on here during the game so I don’t have any idea if you guys talked about this but halftime was pretty tame. When he started singing under the stands, the sound was horrible. I never thought it was great during the entire set. Although I’m not a big JT fan so it’s not like I was gutted. Not sure who picked out that suit but it looked like something from Goodwill.

    • Scharfinator

      I like Jeff’s idea about the WPMOY giving a speech… But the masses eyes would glaze over and it would fall on deaf ears.

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      After seeing how 2018 JT looked and danced, I thought “George Michael hasn’t aged a bit.”

      Didn’t care for the music except for the Prince tribute. Nice purple light show around the stadium.

      • CanadaBear

        Totally agree.

  • Scharfinator

    Had no idea that his old ass was still in the league until yesterday, but good for Corey. Not sure why we cut him.

    http://www.nfl.com/player/coreygraham/2495613/profile

    • evantonio

      was in line to get paid, and we didn’t want to pay him because we never viewed him as more than a ST ace.

      we being management.

      • Was deemed “too small” for Lovie scheme, which is odd cuz a few yrs later they promoted Jennings from nickle to RCB.

    • I was surprised he’s still around too. That particular mistake was made 2 GMs ago.

    • John F

      One of Angelo’s classic roster decisions ……..

  • BerwynBomber

    Every team in the NFCE has won at least one SB.
    They are the only division in football of which that is true.

    • willbest

      That seems surprising

      • SC Dave

        Agree. Wow.

  • BerwynBomber

    Don’t buy for a second that the Malcolm Butler benching was due to match-up.
    My guess is he broke curfew the night before the game.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      He had hookers and cocaine in his room.

      • Went out with a bang and a whimper.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          I was joking, but from what Data posted, it appears I may have been closer to the truth than I thought.

    • BearDown100393

      Malcolm got in the middle of Brady & Belichick

    • Rumor is he got busted for weed and then blew up at coaches. Not verified though, I have no clue how trustworthy this source is.

      https://twitter.com/JoeyPigskins/status/960565657074065408

  • willbest
  • Watching the Pat’s game with a Pat’s fan was interesting. It was like watching the OJ Trial with someone who was rooting for the opposite side you were rooting for

    He swore that ball was coming loose at the back of the endzone. And you know what, it DID wiggle.

    But the play stood. Iggle’s TD.

    Then the Ertz TD. How many steps before he’s deemed a runner? What’s a “football” move.

    Again, my step-bro swore that was the same exact play Jesse James ‘fumbled’ into the endzone and it was ruled a TO.

    Again, the TD stood.

    I kept saying that I seriously doubt the refs are gonna turnover the calls made on the field in a SB. They got a lot of criticism during the regular season for doing so, and it would be a billion times worse during a SB so the calls were going to stand. Had almost little to do with the actual rule.

    Meanwhile, trying to explain this to my nephew and sister was like trying to explain how the flux capacitor can send a ppl back in time.

    They somehow gotta fix one of the most basic part of the game: what’s a catch? When does a receiver turn into a runner?

    (The latter also explains why the Iggles weren’t flagged when Cooks got knocked out. It was obviously helmet to helmet, but he was deemed a runner, so all’s fair – knee, helmet, etc)

    • CaponeBot 1.0

      This nano-breakdown of catches has to stop. They should do slow motion but not frame by frame. Balls will move from time to time (hey now) and sometimes you need the freeze frame to see if a toe got in but it has gotten out of hand.
      The Clement TD was in the gray zone, the Ertz TD was clear cut. Catch, 3 steps, then diving over the goal line. In my neighborhood If you were playing pick up football and someone pulled off that badass move and you called no TD you would simply get your teeth kicked in for being a vadge.
      We are such a wussy race of people now.

      • EnderWiggin

        “such a wussy race of people” – Collinsworthers

      • I liked the way the game was called. Then again, I wasn’t rooting for the Pats.

        Pat’s fan in real time were pissed. They had a valid case, esp with the Clements.

        My sis who is only a casual watcher thought they were both good catches/TDs. She even said, ‘hey, if the Eagles win, they deserve it.’

        As long as they’re consistent. I think that’s all any fan wants.

        Like there was only 1 sack all game.

        Those QBs had all-day to throw on most plays, hence the fucking 1,000 yds.

        But when they would slo-mo the pocket, I could see BLATANT Oline holding.

        But hey, they let it slide BOTH ways, so I’m cool with that.

        And the consistency has to be league wide, not just crew to crew.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Pats fans have nothing to complain about. There were a couple PI calls not called, blatant holding, and let’s not forget the strip fumble on the sideline that was not reviewed. The broadcast would not even show a replay. I thought the ball was clearly out but whistle blew and they played on.

          • Yeah, they blew the whistle way too fast. They were going for the strip, and that’s the way the Eagle’s D played all season.

            But those catches could’ve been just as easily overturned (they were in fact during the regular season) so I can see how some Pat’s fan would be mad.

            But hey, maybe this was Al Davis reaching out from the grave. Pat’s have gotten away with a lot of shit.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I would have understood if they overturned the first TD. However if they overturned the 2nd TD, I would have to seriously debate not watching football.

      • That Guy

        Yep. The “survive the ground” crap needs to go.

        Requirement 1: Did guy catch the ball? Two feet or one other body part (other than hand) in bounds?
        Requirement 2: Did ball not touch the ground before runner touched the ground with anything but a hand?

        Anything that meets 1 + 2 = catch. Fuck this “football move” and other crap.

        Yes, that means some things that we consider catches now (guy catches the ball, controls it, but ball rubs the ground before guy is down) won’t be catches. But those are few and far between, and we don’t have to debate “control” or “surviving the ground” or any of that crap. Ertz’s catch would be clearly, obviously, inarguably a catch. As would Miller’s knee-destroyer.

        Doesn’t matter if the ball wobbles or the guy bobbles. Is the ball in his hands? How many feet down? 2 in bounds? Catch. It shouldn’t have to be perfectly still. The firefighter who catches a baby thrown from a burning building gets the catch if the kid doesn’t hit the ground.

    • BearDown100393

      I have no idea what a catch truly is anymore especially when reviewed for scoring.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    new thread.

  • On Urlacher note…

    “I think he’s the smartest player that I’ve ever played against,” Rodgers said.

    Ohh, didn’t I say if they asked Rodgers he’d say Lach was one of the smartest MLBs he faced?
    Hoge scooped me! (nttawwt)

    Which opens up another question. How can Lach and Marino be Einsteins on the field and Gumpish off?

    Humans baffle me.

    • Football smarts and actual smarts are two different things.

      Case in point: Kyrie Irving is a wizard on the basketball court, but thinks the Earth is flat.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

        LOL. And he’s not alone. And that’s not even the most outrageous thing he’s said.

  • Sactowns#1

    I pounded the over and it paid off nicely. One prop bet I should have made was Foles to score a TD. Would have paid off nicely. Oh well.

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