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ATM: Players to Watch At The Combine

| February 28th, 2018

The NFL’s annual meat market is here.

Don’t listen to anyone who tells you it doesn’t matter. The Bears, in particular, seem to value athleticism with their early picks and there’s no reason to think this year will be any different.

Here are a few players to watch when the combine really gets rolling later this week.


Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama

Ridley is generally thought to be the top wide receiver but there are questions about whether or not he deserves to be a top-10 pick.

After a 1,000-yard season as a freshman, Ridley failed to reach that mark again in his final two years. While much of the blame for that has gone to Alabama’s horrendous quarterback play, there are still questions about the wideout.

One major thing NFL teams will need to see is if Ridley is taller than six-feet, like he is listed. If he comes in shorter, teams are going to question his ability to play outside. Since 2010 only two receivers who measured under six-feet were drafted in the top-10. Neither — Tavon Austin and John Ross —  have worked out so far.

Even if he is six-foot-one, Ridley needs to show he has at least good athletic ability to create separation from defenders.

Read DBB’s Saturday Scout column on Ridley HERE.


Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech

You don’t often see off-the-ball linebackers who look and move like Edmunds.

Expected to measure in at around 6’5″, 250 pounds, Edmunds is a player a lot of teams are going to want to take a close look at. In addition to his freakish size, he flies around the ball and could be a menace covering the middle of the field.

Important for Edmunds will be his agility drills, displaying whether he can flip his hips and cover at an NFL level. Some teams, including the Bears, might want to see if he has the necessary skill set to line up along the edge and rush the passer.

The Bears value the inside linebacker position more than many teams and they don’t have a lot of surefire staples at that position right now, given Christian Jones’ contract status and Danny Trevathan’s injury history. Edmunds could fit the profile Ryan Pace tends to look for.


Harold Landry, Edge, Boston College

Landry had explosive junior season and dropped off as a senior. That’s what makes a week like this important for him. He managed 16.5 sacks, 22 tackles for loss and 7 forced fumbles as he was nearly unblockable in 2016. In 2017, however, the numbers dropped to five sacks, 8.5 tackles for loss and 0 forced fumbles.

Why?

Many believe the cause was an ankle injury that eventually ended Landry’s season. If that’s the case, NFL teams are going to want to spend some time with that ankle. Assuming it is OK, it will be really interesting to see how Landry measures in. Listed at 6’3″, 250 pounds, the Bears are going to want to see how long his arms are. If they’re longer than 33 inches, he could be in play.

Other areas to check Landry out include the three-cone drill and the short shuttle. If he can wrap the three-cone in under 7 seconds and the shuttle in the 4.2-second range, he has a good chance of cracking the top-10.


Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama

If there is a run on quarterbacks early, one of the best players in the draft could drop to the Bears and it would be interesting to see how they view him.

Some view Fitzpatrick as a safety, others a cornerback. For the Bears, his height and length could be key as those are traits they value at the cornerback position. If he’s a safety, however, they could pass with Eddie Jackson and Adrian Amos seemingly entrenched as starters.

Pace has been trying to get a premier cornerback for at least the last two seasons. The Bears made a big run at free agent Stephon Gilmore last off-season and — according to Adam Schefter — tried to trade up for Jalen Ramsey in 2016.


Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa

Jackson isn’t as well known as Fitzpatrick but he’s more likely to be available when the Bears pick.

Jackson has the height and length the Bears want but it’ll be interesting to see how he tests athletically. If he can clock a 40-yard dash time in the low 4.5 range, his other physical traits will likely be enough to put him in consideration for the Bears.

While the Bears defense cracked the top 10 in scoring and yardage last year, they’re still looking for a premier difference maker to take the ball away. Jackson had 8 interceptions, 2 of which were returned for touchdowns last year. Adding him and Eddie Jackson to the secondary in consecutive years could create a lot of excitement.


Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State

This one isn’t as much for the Bears to draft him as it is for someone else to take him before they pick, thus pushing another player down the board.

Barkley is generally considered the best running back prospect in the draft and we’ve seen backs go in the top five the last two years. If that happens again, along with a few quarterbacks, a pass rusher and maybe an offensive lineman, the Bears could feel good about their options when they’re on the clock.


Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame

The combine isn’t going to tell you a heck of a lot about interior offensive linemen, but if the Bears are running the same kind of hybrid West Coast/Spread scheme that Kansas City ran, they’re going to need their linemen to move.

Nelson seemed to struggle pulling at times last year (watch the Miami game) and there are some questions about why Notre Dame never even tried him at left tackle. While he’s thought to be a generational guard prospect, he might not be a fit for every scheme. Keep in mind we saw the Bears cut Matt Slauson because he wasn’t an athletic fit.


Marcus Davenport, Edge, UTSA

It seems that Vic Fangio has generally preferred to have one bigger edge guy who primarily rushes the passer and sets the edge and another more athletic player who can drop in coverage. They have the athlete in Lenny Floyd and they could see Davenport being the other piece.

Davenport is incredibly raw but the size and length — 6’6″, 260 pounds, 81.75 wing span at the Senior Bowl — raises some eyebrows and could remind Fangio of Aldon Smith.

The Bears and every other team will want to see how agile he is and if dropping him into coverage is even a viable option. They’ll also want to see how coachable he is to see if reaching his immense potential is likely or even possible.


Courtland Sutton, WR, SMU

There is no consensus on Sutton but he could be a difference maker in the Bears passing game.

Expected to measure around 6’4″, 220 pounds, the question about Sutton is how well he moves. We once saw the Bears fall for a similar prospect in Kevin White, who wasn’t generally thought of as a top-10 prospect until he blazed a 4.35 40-yard dash at the combine. If Sutton has a similar performance, he could see a similar rise and the Bears could be the team that grabs him.


Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville

Like with Barkley, Jackson isn’t someone the Bears would likely consider, but he could be a player another team falls in love with.

He isn’t a polished passer, but I’m not sure he needs to be at this point. If Jackson breaks 4.4 seconds in the 40-yard dash, somebody is going to convince themselves that he is Mike Vick 2.0 and they can win with him.

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  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    SMH. I can’t believe you did not put a punter and kicker on the list.

    • BearDown100393

      Sebastian Janikowski

  • SC Dave

    Davenport seems like someone that Pace would draft.

  • BearDown100393

    “Other than QB I don’t think there’s a more important position on the field.”

    The “long snapper” is gonna take out Jeff.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Backup QB. That’s #2 on a team and I don’t give a squiddly squat fuck.

      Unfortunately, we had a good one this year and it cost us Barkley.

  • Irish Sweetness

    No Chubb love, Jefe? He might go top 4.

    “Nelson seemed to struggle pulling at times last year (watch the Miami game) and there are some questions about why Notre Dame never even tried him at left tackle. ”

    Man. I don’t know. First up, Mike McGlinchey is the left tackle, so that’s why he wasn’t asked. All I’ve seen is highlights and a game of Nelson’s broken down by Voch Lombardi (watchable alone for a TE #44 who motions inline and then flattens a LB. He looks down at the LB and hits him again while the dude is lying down!). All I saw was ownership and nastiness and no go area all around him.

    If we get either Tremaine or Quenton, we get a lot better as a team. I just wish we had the possibility of somehow drafting both. Teams do it. Teams make moves.

    • BenderMcLugh

      and add Goldman to that trio, hell yes we’d all be happy

  • BenderMcLugh

    Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
    This one isn’t as much for the Bears to draft him as it is for someone else to take him before they pick, thus pushing another player down the board.

    Yes, exactly. I can’t see him being picked after the Bears.

  • ButtonShoes

    Willie’s gone. Glennon, Cooper, and Wheaton are next.

    • BearDown100393

      Some team will reel Young in.

      • ButtonShoes

        Depends on if he’s healthy. I don’t think he is.

        • willbest

          He is worth a 2 mil gamble

      • Bear Instincts

        I see what you did there. Well played Sir. Well played.

    • willbest

      We are getting real thin at pass rush. Pass is either going to need to do something inspiring during FA or we are drafting the best QB hitter on the board

      • ButtonShoes

        It’s why I want Chubb.

        • I think Chubb may have to be the guy . Edwards and Quenton might be better, but we desperately need another pass rusher who is at least competent. When Floyd went down, and Hicks was doubled running on empty, their QBs had all day to dissect the D.

  • CanadaBear

    Pace announced that Glennon will be released. In other news, water is wet.

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  • ButtonShoes

    And there goes Glennon:

    “StaceyDales‏ @StaceyDales

    Official—> Per @ChicagoBears GM Ryan Pace: Mike Glennon will be released when the new league years starts.”

    Cooper and Wheaton, you’re next.

    • John F

      And he gets a $2.5 million parting gift because the Bears have to wait until the new league year starts for some reason.

  • Bear Instincts

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000917695/article/fourround-mock-draft-allen-goes-no-1-bills-cardinals-trade-up
    Love this mock draft….Bears trade back from 8 overall to the Cardinals #15 spot. We get 2018 & 2019 1st round and still draft Calvin Ridley….not too shabby

    • SC Dave

      I don’t. If it went that way above #8, keep the pick and take Edwards.

      • If the board fell like that, I’d be thrilled. Extra 1 in 2019 likely a top 10 pick, and you can take McGlinchey and Key in the first two rounds to beef up the trenches.

    • John F

      This trade would never happen.

      According to a generic draft value chart a number 8 pick is worth around 1,400 points and a number 15 is worth around 1,050. That means the first round pick for 2019 has a value placed on it of 350 points. A number 32 pick is worth at least 590 points (and that assumes the Cards win the Superbowl) in the current year. The 2019 pick will likely fall between 15 and 25 be worth between 1,000 and 750 points which means they are discounting it 50 to 60 percent because it is delayed a year.

      I just don’t see the Cards giving up that much.

  • ButtonShoes

    Matt Nagy’s speaking at the combine, and he sure is talking a lot for someone who is substantively saying nothing. He really is like Ryan Pace.

    • CaponeBot 1.0

      agreed, he should probably give up details of their prelim draft board, who they are focusing on, what positions they want to address and if they are considering moving up or moving back to secure specific prospects or positions.

      • BearDown100393

        Smoke screens always work out for the best.

        • Bear Instincts

          Pace is the Batman of smokescreens and Nagy is his Robin

      • ButtonShoes

        There has to be a way to be somewhat transparent without putting the specifics of your plan out there. Nagy’s coming across as a more enthusiastic version of John Fox here. That’s not good.

        And anyway, all this presumes that the Bears have secrets worth stealing. They do not.

        • BearDown100393

          The NFL is a copycat league. When a team misses the playoffs 7 straight seasons, every competitor is all eyes and ears open on Halas Hall strategy.

  • BearDown100393

    Matt retired.

    • ButtonShoes

      He’ll always be a Bears great. Very good, durable RB.

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog Not paying backup QBs in this NFL is insanity to me. The championship was just won with a well-paid backups. The Texans and Packers season were flushed down toilet because they didn’t have well-paid backups.”

    The Cheese, though, are a bad example. They rely too much on Rodgers’ pre- and post-snap brilliance for any back-up to come close to filling that role. Put Nick Foles up there and they would still struggle.

    What is McCarthy’s record when Rodgers doesn’t start or play a full quarter? 5-15-1? Some of that could be attributable to poor back-ups, but a lot of it is attributable to Rodgers puling rabbits out of his ass as opposed to McCarthy’s play-calling and coaching.

    But the Cheese are probably the exception that proves the rule.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis
    • BerwynBomber

      First year induction into our imaginary Bears HoF at Halas.

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog By the way, the guy I want to see get freed up and become Mitch’s backup is Tyrod Taylor.”

    Good idea.

    My only question would be an obvious one — will Taylor accept/embrace a back-up position — and maybe a less obvious one — can we sign him to a three or four year deal?

    I would honestly be less concerned with Taylor coming in and carrying us to a Super Bowl and more concerned with Taylor as a Plan B in case Bisky doesn’t pan out.

    But yeah, Pace should look into it. It would give the Bears one of the strongest QB rooms in the entire league in terms of depth and skill.

    • I slung that idea right away. I`m also curious if Tryod will ask for $5m range.
      Think thr NFL will force him to be a high end back uo, like they did w Cutty before Tannenhill blew out his knee.
      I would prefer Tryod. He doesnt turn the ball over and can move. Think he would be the ideal back up.

      Could also draft Lamar Jackson outside the 1st and mold him. He could play some WR in the meanwhile kinda like Pryor or Slash

  • Scharfinator
    • SC Dave

      Kinda wish McCaskey signed him to an one-day contract so he could retire a Bear.

      • BearDown100393

        When did the Bears do that?

      • CanadaBear

        If Matt asks I’m sure they would be more than happy to oblige.

        • SC Dave

          He may not ask, and wait for the Bears to ask him. After all, it was the team that didn’t want him.

          • CanadaBear

            It’s a business and the players understand that. Matt thanked the Bears in his piece and knowing the McCaskey’s, the door is still open.

  • BerwynBomber

    P.S. Isn’t there a CB from Ohio State that some are projecting above J. Jackson?

  • BuddhaJoe

    So who the hell the hell is gonna rush the passer besides Floyd? Someone tell Pace that his team had too many holes already.

    • BerwynBomber

      Hicks does a pretty fair job of it.

      • BuddhaJoe

        Fair point but ad far as I know the only OLB left on the roster is Acho, and that won’t cut. Another hole that didn’t need to be created.

    • McPhee and Young were both washed. OLB has been shaping up as a problem for 2018 for months, and unlike WR and CB, there aren’t a lot of potential solutions in FA.

      • Didn`t you want Beasly over White?

        Pace fucked that one up

        • KentuckyBearsFan

          I think half the mock draft boards had Chicago picking Beasly.

          The knock on White was only 1 good year and an injury history.

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            White had a shoulder injury before or during junior college (but no leg injuries). And he didn’t go to a Division I school because his grades were bad. He wasn’t really serious about football until about 3 years before he was drafted.

            Seems like he seriously overdid it preparing for the combine and was never the same player again as during his senior year at WV.

            (article from Nov 2014)
            https://www.si.com/college-football/2014/11/19/kevin-white-west-virginia-mountaineers

            “His transformation began with overdue paperwork. In the spring of 2011 White was finishing his redshirt freshman year at Lackawanna College, a school with an enrollment of 1,500 in Scranton, Pa. He had arrived there in ’10 because his grades coming out of Emmaus (Pa.) High weren’t good enough to qualify for a Division I scholarship. The time had come to select his courses for the upcoming semester.

            Only he didn’t do it. Then he failed to fill out his financial aid forms. Suddenly the player who talent evaluators now peg as a can’t-miss prospect couldn’t even suit up for the junior college Lackawanna Falcons.

            White grew up in Plainfield, N.J., before moving with his family to Allentown, Pa., and relocating to nearby Emmaus soon after. Although he played flag football in grade school, he didn’t get serious about the sport until much later. He was a defensive back for most of his prep career and then one day decided to give wideout a try. “During my senior season I was like, I think I wanna play college football at receiver,” he says. “I just started to get really good at it.”

            He began to train at FASST Performance, a facility run by Jason Brader, where he caught balls fired out of JUGS machines and completed speed, strength and agility exercises. Brader, a Lackawanna alumnus, referred White to his own former coaches, Mark Duda and Charlie Grande, who made room for him on the team.

            But White injured his shoulder, redshirted and missed the deadline to register for financial aid. Despite his immense potential, his football future was in jeopardy.”

          • One of the “character flaws” I read about him during the draft was that White would lack confidence.

            How a guy who looks like Adonis and runs a 4.35 could lack confidence baffles me, but I read a similar story about him after his INJs with the Bears, that he was doubting himself.

            So at this point it might not just be physical but psychological.

            Maybe he can pop in Rocky III and turn it around.

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            “Lacking confidence” (in this context) sounds like code for “stupid.”

            The NFL playbook might be too intimidating for him.

            His physical tools allowed him to have a great senior season, but when his body started failing he had no confidence because he had nothing else to rely on.

          • CanadaBear

            I don’t think that’s the case. I’ve heard KW a couple of times in interviews and he was OK. Not great but OK. Not to say anything bad about Devin since he’s an all-time fave for me but when you saw him in interviews you were a little stunned.

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            I’ve never heard either one talk.

            I was wondering if it was something like how an otherwise normal person can be horribly bad at math. Or lack common sense when making big decisions.

          • CanadaBear

            KW just sounded like any other athlete although appearing pretty earnest about it. Where Devin would come off almost a little child-like. I don’t mean that as an insult, I loved the guy, but he just seemed very naive and not savvy enough when dealing with the media.

          • BearDown100393

            If Marshall chose football over tv, Pace drafts Beasley

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          Give it a rest dude. Holy shit.

          • Hey, we’re talking about WR being #1 priority now because of drafting White.
            We’re talking about OLB/rush being the #1 priority now because of signing a busted McPhee.

            I actually liked both moves initially, but I’m not getting paid millions to make those decisions.

            The main problem I see with Pace is that he just stops trying to sign talent once he buys into a player.

            NFL is a war of attrition. Gotta keep reloading or at the very least, stop talent from walking out the door.

        • I did want Beasley. Pace absolutely missed that pick (though in his defense White had no meaningful injury red flags, and has never really had a chance due to injuries).

          • In Pace’s defense, I can’t think of a prospect’s tape being so different from his NFL production.

            White looked electric in his college tape. I think I read somewhere that he had the highest reception rate %, so it wasn’t just athleticism, but great hands.

            His combine and measurables were phenomenal. Many pundits had him ahead of Cooper as the top WR.

            The knocks on him were his 1 yr production, limited route tree, and rumored “lack of confidence” – but everything else (including medical) cleared.

            It’s crazy to think he bombed so hard. Even the small windows when he played, he looked more like old Roddy White than he did Vtech Kevin White.

            The negative on Beasly was that he was one of those “tweeners” who is undersized and would struggle vs run.

          • SC Dave

            Millions of dollars can cause a lack of motivation, it seems.

          • AlbertInTucson

            20/20 hindsight, Beasly would have been a better pick, for sure.

            Beasly had only 4 sacks his rookie year.

            If he’d come to the Bears as a rookie and got only 4 sacks, a LOT of folks would have been screaming “Bust!”.

          • I understood the White pick. Bmarsh was all but gone, and at that time Alshon wasn’t locked under contract whie White wasn’t a Shea headscratcher.

            Just seems like Pace is “unlucky” a lot. Unlucky about White, McPhee, Freeman, Royal, Grasu, Demps, Cooper, Glennon…

            I don’t know if Pace cut off a gypsy or what, but hopefully his ‘luck’ turns around this yr.

        • BearDown100393

          #smokescreen

      • BearDown100393

        McPhee was a washout when becoming a Bear

        • CanadaBear

          He was really good until he fucked up his knee during that first year. We all know what happened after that.

          • BearDown100393

            Yes he was

        • McPhee had a hot start as a Bear, then hurt his knee (not the one that had nagging problems, the other one) and was never the same.

          • BearDown100393

            Hot start ended up being a sideline hot head. Live and learn.

    • ButtonShoes

      Don’t see what good that would do. Pace seems to relish creating holes on this team that he never fills.

    • John F

      Floyd can barely rush the passer as it is, barely can stay on the field also ………..

  • AlbertInTucson
    • Sactowns#1

      Guy was a great player.

  • An OG, no matter how bad ass he is, is an awful 1st rd investment, esp when the need was manufactured by Pace to start.

    If Pace wants to impress for once, He’ll sign OG Andrew Norwell and use that 1st to replace Mcphee, his other FA bust.

    I wouldn’t mind Houston back either. He looked like a man possesed late season.

    Signing Fuller, Prince and Callahan would also go a long way. Or some FA on their tier.

    • SC Dave

      Norwell will be pricey. But I think the big factor is that Nelson does not “fit the scheme”.

      Though Quenton’s badassery is really appealing. Just beat DTs and particularly LBs and SS into the freaking turf

      • BearDown100393

        Not to fence but isn’t free agency normally about overspending?

      • Norwell will def be pricey, but there’s no reason Pace shouldn’t go after him (unless he REALLY believes in Kush/Morgan).

        I already read that the Gmen want him.

        If the Gmen , who just came off their worst offseason and are in much worse shape than us, are able to nab him instead of us, my bitching is gonna go up a notch!

        Pugh and Mewhort are cheaper options, but they are a bit INJ prone (like that ever stops Pace).

        The OG I think Pace will likely target is Zach Fulton. Only 26 and from the Chiefs. It’s pretty standard for new HCs to want players from their former team (Fox-Trevathan).

  • Doc had one of the best FF names of all time

    Forte OZs to Freedom

    Pour a 40 fo Forte!

    • SC Dave

      Well done, Doc!

      Hopefully he’ll be back come real season

  • Good stuff, Andy.

    Marcus Davenport intrigues. I checked out Aldon Smith’s combine

    http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/aldon-smith?id=2495487

    3 cone was 7.19 – Shuttle 4.50 – 40 4.78

    Arm length 35″

    The knock on Aldon was that he was a bit undersized and probably couldn’t anchor the run (sounds like Floyd) while his initial burst wasn’t seen as elite.

    However, Aldon was very fluid, agile, tenacious with violent hands and long arms. So if Davenport proves to be fluid, that might be a start.

    Pace has shown he’s not averse to reaching for an athletic freak in the 1st.

    • SC Dave

      That last point was what I referred to when I commented that Davenport looks like someone that Pace would draft 🙂

  • A lil more on Forte.

    I remember reading an article on him once where he said he never tasted a soda in his life. That’s cray cray! As a kid, soda was like crack. Give me some!

    In the same article he also revealed he slept in a hypoberic chamber. He was the first athlete I heard of doing that.

    I was in awe. That’s like Walter level dedication.

    Would explain why he was so durable inspite of being ridden like a donkey, and not just by the Bears, but going all the way back to college. That was one of the knocks on him coming into the NFL, that he would be worn out by his 2nd contract.

    So kudos to Forte. Wish him the best. Him and Peanut should be locks in the imaginary Bears Ring of Honor.

    (On a more debatable angle, Forte > Neal Anderson, aka, the forgotten bear?)

    • John F

      Forte > Neal Anderson

      Boy, that’s a tough one. Forte has played 30 more games and has amassed 5,500 more yards from scrimmage so you might say its a slam dunk for Forte. But Anderson has 71 TD’s vs 75 for Forte (who played an additional two seasons), and Anderson was much faster.

      I think you would do just fine with either, I judge it a tie.

      • Yeah, I think you’re right. It’s about a tie. Just going by #s might say Forte was better, but anyone who watched Anderson play knows he was really good. There’s pros and cons for both.

        Always felt a lil bad for Anderson being in Sweetness’ shadow.

        • CanadaBear

          At their peaks Neal was better but Neal’s peak didn’t last that long because he got beat up so bad due to the OL getting old and Ditka’s offense being so tricky (or not). By the end he was practically gun shy going up to the line.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Anderson got hurt trying to make a tackle Brian Bosworth on a fumble return and he was was never the same again.

          • CanadaBear

            He was a shell of himself when he retired.

        • SC Dave

          I think Anderson was the fastest Bears back since Sayers. His speed was definitely an asset and aid to his numbers. Neal was damn good.

          That said, I have to give the nod to Forte. He has numbers and longevity.

          One thing that people seem to forget is how little Matt turned the ball over.

          Neal 31 fumbles 1818 touches
          Matt 22 fumbles 3090 touches

          • CanadaBear

            I just watched about 7 mins of Neal’s highlights. Gotta love that speed. He was really good out of the backfield or lined up as a WR. Matt gets the nod overall from me due to longevity and not turning it over. At their peaks for one game, I’d go with Neal.

          • Good point about the TOs.

            But as John F pointed out, they’re almost equal with TD in spite of Anderson playing less seasons and in an era when it wasn’t Arena Ball.

            It’s close though. I could go both ways.

            If I had to start a franchise with either, I would likely go with Forte just because of his workhorse, steady productivity and flexibility. But for ONE game, maybe Anderson like Canada noted.

            Forte’s pass catching record for HBs might stand for a long time esp in this day and age of committee backs.

          • evantonio

            Anderson was not fast.

            I played Tecmo Super Bowl. I know. His speed was slightly above average, a big letdown coming from Walter in the previous version of the game.

          • He was no Bo, that’s for sure.

    • BerwynBomber

      Forte > Anderson.

      And it is really not that close.

      Forte killed him in rushing yards per game. 67.1 to 53.2. And he killed him in longevity and overall output.

      Anderson was a very good, solid RB. But he was simply not in Forte’s class as a pro.

  • BearDown100393

    Pace is one of the best GMs in the league when deciding to cut a player.

    There now. A positive.

  • Horse

    I guess playing in the NFL was no longer his Forte

  • AlbertInTucson

    Jet’s cut Mo Wilkerson loose.

    • If Mo can buy into Fangio, he would be a steal.

      But he has to WANT to be on the Bears. He has to want to play for Fangio.

      If not, Mo $, Mo problems.

      • CanadaBear

        That’s the $64K question. Personally I would stay far, far away.

        • I’m not sure Bears have many options when it comes to pass rushers, Canada.

          We have the cap. I would just front load it, so if he begins dogging it or missing meetings, can cut him with little cap penalty.

          If Pace can take a chance on Jaye Howard, Mo has a million time more upside.

          It’s also possible Mo just wanted out of New Jersey like Alshon apparently wanted out of Chi.

          Just gotta vet him. If I were Pace I would make Fangio talk to him and let him inform me. Fangio has a lot more experience with defensive players and would be a better gage methinks.

          • CanadaBear

            My immediate thought was Ray McDonald. I really am a battered sports fan!!!!!!!!!

          • True, but McDonald’s drive was never in question. Just all that other stuff, which of course, Ray was gonna deny.

            If Mo was battling off-field rumors, I’d be more hesitant.

            But every case is diff. That being said, full-disclosure, I didn’t want to trade for Mo last season.

            But for no draft picks? Frontloaded contract? At a position of dire need?

            Yeah, might be worth the risk.

            I also would gamble on Josh Gordon.

            If Mo turns it around, we’ll have two Hicks.
            If Gordon stays on the straight and narrow we have a Julio Jones.

            Dunno about you, but those possibilities get me more excited than some mid rd schlubs or FA leftovers.

          • CanadaBear

            Cle holds Gordon’s rights for at least 2 more years. I would take a chance on Gordon if I was convinced he’s turned the corner. Crazy talent!

          • I would try to make a trade.

            CLE love them draft picks.

            A 3rd and White might be able to entice them. Could easily see them convincing themselves that they got a 3rd and 7th overall who just needs a new start.

            And it relieves them of the risk.

            We’re dead last not winning a single game in our division, and it’s not gonna get easier.

            Like Scareface said, gotta think big!

          • CanadaBear

            If I was convinced Gordon has figured things out, I would do that in a heartbeat.

          • BenderMcLugh

            Would LOVE Gordon on this team

          • leftcoastdave

            If the contract can be well structured to be able to cut or deal him, I say grab him. You would have to think that with our other two monsters in the D line it would make for a great competitive chemistry MO would buy into.
            I am all over giving the D all the love this year over the O. Rebuild the Monsters of the Midway.

          • I agree. As long as Mo says he wants to be a Bear, play for Fangio and the contract is frontloaded, I’m all for it.

            Concur that with Tre and Hicks there, I don’t think Mo will become too much of a distraction. They could even become buds as equals and push each other.

            And everyone respects Fangio with his resume. We have a good structure that I think can take the risk.

            This isn’t the Trestman lockeroom.

            Imagine a motivated Mo, Goldman and Hicks with Floyd and Chubb coming off the edges.

            That would be bad ass!

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I agree this isn’t the Trestman locker room. But I heard they do have a memorial Trestman trash bin and recycle bin in the locker room.

          • BenderMcLugh

            Any chance to trade down & get Chubb?

          • AlbertInTucson

            Trade down?

            All the projections would seem to require they trade UP to get him.

          • BenderMcLugh

            Shhhhhhh….

          • BenderMcLugh

            Totally agree giving the D draft & FA priority, yes please. WR, TE2, RB3 too

          • CaponeBot 1.0

            Haha, you ever talk to a 28yr old with 15 mil in his checking account? Some dudes are just assholes….then someone gave that asshole millions. Now he is the very definition of a Total Asshole.

          • Moss was an asshole. He loafed it the whole time he was on the Raiders.

            But the second he left, he balled.

            Never know.

      • BenderMcLugh

        And the possibility of that WANT happening is nil

  • BuddhaJoe

    Gotta wonder if Wilkerson dogged it because he already got paid or because he didn’t buy in to the coaching staff. Pace at least has to take a serious look.

    • John F

      “We only want high-character players in our locker room, regardless of football ability”

      Ryan Pace
      (14 wins – 34 losses)

      • BearDown100393

        Losing with class

        • Bears motto.

          I think that 85 team scared the shit out of the McCaskeys who are fragile socialites.

          They never wanted those types of players or coaches ever again. And here we are, 30 yrs later, without a SB (or Honeybears) because of their pussy philo.

          Halas must be spinning in his grave.

          • John F

            It’s hard to own and run an NFL franchise when you don’t know much about professional football

          • BearDown100393

            And never bother to learn anything

      • BuddhaJoe

        Guy came in with a decent O and dogshit D, proceeded to dismantle the O and fix the D.

        • John F

          Wake me up when they are both fixed at the same time ……….. it hasn’t happened but for a couple of seasons in the last 25 years

    • BenderMcLugh

      Sure seemed like it

    • CaponeBot 1.0

      Wilkerson is the polar opposite of the kind of guy you want playing for a new coach. What a turd.

      • BenderMcLugh

        Sir Albert Haynesworth

        • AlbertInTucson

          Good comparison though I think Haynesworth was an even bigger tool.

  • On a non-football note. Here’s a gripping interview if you’re down in the slumps, trapped in an endless cycle, trying to bust out. Highly recommend it.

  • BenderMcLugh

    Support dogs waiting to greet FL students 1st day back to school. Awesome
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  • Irish Sweetness

    Damn, have we signed Mo yet? Pace is on the phone doing everything he can now … right?

    And he’s offered the Browns a 3rd for Gordon ….. right?

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