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ATM: Javon Wims & the Annual Romance With Camp Receivers

| August 8th, 2018

[Administrative Note: This is not the first time DBB has ventured down this road, with one of our most famous columns being the aptly-titled “The Joe Anderson Boner”. It’s a nice read to set the stage for today’s piece from Andrew.]


“He’s special.”

                                                      -Some guy on Twitter, re: Javon Wims

I could hardly believe it when someone on Twitter sent those words to @DaBearsBlog about any player during the fourth quarter of the Hall of Fame game. But there it was. And Javon Wims, in that moment, became a camp darling. Some proclaimed Wims a seventh-round steal. Others actually said they’d rather have him than Kevin White, now and for the foreseeable future. Adam Hoge and Adam Jahns praised Wims on their weekly podcast and openly wondered if White should make the team.

Let’s rewind a bit.

• First of all, Wims dropped to the seventh round for a reason. I took a look at the ten receivers who were drafted before him and only two had fewer collegiate receptions and none posted worse athletic scores. He was praised as the leading receiver on one of the best teams in the nation but he only caught 47 passes.

• Secondly, he wasn’t having a good camp. Anyone who says otherwise is either lying to you or they don’t know what they’re watching. Don’t believe me? According to Patrick Finley of the Chicago Sun-Times, wide receivers coach Mike Furrey said Wims had “struggled for a couple weeks.”

The Bears didn’t play any of their top four receivers, including White, the guy some fans think should be released. They started with Bennie Fowler, Josh Bellamy and Tanner Gentry in three receiver sets. Even Marlon Brown entered the game before Wims. So it’s logical to conclude the Georgia rookie entered the game no higher than ninth on the depth chart.

They’re not keeping more than seven.

With a solid performance last Thursday, Wims definitely moved up. He worked with the starters earlier this week while Bellamy and Taylor Gabriel were sidelined and as Allen Robinson continues to work his way back. It seems clear that he moved ahead of Fowler and Brown, which is good news for the Bears — spending a draft pick on a receiver who isn’t even as good as Brown would be bad news.

Ultimately, what we saw from fans and media alike Thursday night was a drastic and classic overreaction. almost exactly like we saw with Gentry last year and Daniel Braverman the year before. [Editor’s note: And don’t forget Joe Anderson.]

It wasn’t just Wim. We saw the same thing with Isaiah Irving, who beat a couple of undrafted free agent guards playing left tackle for sacks. Almost immediately, the call was made for him to start over Sam Acho and for Aaron Lynch to be released.

Both Irving and Wims deserve a chance to play against better players, but lets wait to see them succeed in those situations before we start cutting those ahead of them on the depth chart.

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  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    First thing I will say is that Wims is definitely no BRAVERMAN!!!

  • T.dyon

    It’s early and the Hall of Fame game was an extra opportunity for the fringe players to get noticed. Getting noticed means nothing if those few players don’t build on the progress from that game. That means practice as well as the minimal game opportunities remaining. Wims has a difficult path If he doesn’t contribute on ST’s.

    • SC Dave

      That was essentially my comment. I want to see Wims with the 2s against 2s for a couple of series. Now he may have a chance.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Are we for real doubting if Wims should be on this team? Anyone doing so needs to not pay attention to anything other than the tape of the Ravens game. It’s on YT in hi-def. I rewatched it and the dude was doing what a receiver should do. He’s a baller. He’s legit. He’s only a rookie. In two years he’ll probably be looking for $15M and we have him locked up for 4 years at just under 2.5M. We’ve hit the motherlode int eh seventh round!

    Anyone making a decision to not have him on the roster needs shooting.

    • SC Dave

      We’ll see what happens. Its a long way to Lambeau.

      But I do wish Pace would not ram White down Nagy’s throat, which appears to be the case.

      Not related to Wims/White, I read Hoge’s column referenced in the podcast linked in the article and found this line. Butch pointed out Lamar Jackson did not look fast, and I followed with a comment about him not seeming to understand he needs to go balls-out every play not that he’s in the big league. Hoge wrote:

      “(Sidenote: It looked to me like Jackson was going through an eye-opening experience with the speed of the NFL game Thursday night, even though he was playing against mostly rookies and/or third-stringers.)”

      Edit: btw, here’s the article
      https://wgnradio.com/2018/08/03/hoges-10-bears-things-catching-up-with-ryan-paces-fourth-draft-class/

      • SC Dave

        Speaking of that podcast, Jahn’s points out (about 21:15) that despite all the hype about the speed of Lamar Jackson, De’Andre Hall (a 4th round pick and 3rd string safety) “closed on him so fast” and then Hoge added a comment along the lines of the written comment I just cited.

        Will Roquan look the same?

  • Is Roq signed yet?

    It’s funny, really, White is signed, but Roq is not.

    • willbest

      Kevin White?

  • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0

    To be fair, no one salivated over that little white coaches award winner danny braverman. People liked Joe Anderson because he was a dog just trying to fight.

    Wims was the leading WR on Georgia.

    • Scharfinator

      Remember that one time that one guy had a hard hit and everyone started circle jerking?

      What was his name? Spastic? .. Bostic!

      • Big Mike

        I remember the hit. It was exciting. But he was bad.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        They did not utilize Bostic properly.

        • SC Dave

          The best utilization possible for Bostic was to not draft him. Failing that, they executed the second best option – a trade.

          • evantonio

            To be fair, it’s not like they would’ve gotten a better player if they chose someone else.

          • SC Dave

            No telling. Bostic was a second round pick tho, #50 in the draft.

          • evantonio

            Emery picked him, right?

            Do you think Emery could’ve done better?

          • SC Dave

            He drafted
            Alshon at #45.
            Bostic at #50.
            Ego Ferguson at #51.

            So I’d give him about one chance in three.

          • evantonio

            He was as surprised by Alshon’s success as anyone.

        • He was a major liability in the passing game.
          I wonder if Roq is the new prototype for ILB.

          More of an “undersized” coverage ILB than a classical thumper.

          This is why I think we should dump Timu.

          He’s simply incapable of defending the pass. No need to waste time on a LB like that. Better off scouring ‘coverage’ type LBs – easier to teach those types how to read schemes, shed blocks, and tackle, then it is too teach Robocop LBs how to move in space.

        • Scharfinator

          Did anyone else?

      • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0

        there was no reason to believe that our 2nd round pick Jon Bostic, who took ass and kicked names around at Florida would be incredibly average in the NFL. He was a bad dude in college.

        • SC Dave

          He was less than average, and basing excitement over his prospects based on one replay was hardly reason to believe he’d be any good.

          I called him out as nothing to be excited about the first time I saw him play in preseason.

          • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0

            people were excited about him because he was the best linebacker at an SEC powerhouse

    • leftcoastdave

      Yep. I like the kid’s size and athleticism. (Ok, somebody is going to trash his numbers now.) He’s been a winner and wants to be a winner who needs coaching up. I hope he gets “injured” for that red shirt like Hall and RRH to give him a year to grow into the NFL.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Don’t be dissing BRAVERMAN!

      • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0

        It’s not his fault he played, it’s the Bears fault for trying to play him.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Bad coaching did not recognize his greatness

  • catfish44

    wims won’t even make the team.

  • chitownproud85

    “Almost immediately, the call was made for him to start over Sam Acho and for Aaron Lynch to be released.” – Did this really happen? Was there a “call” for this? From who? And how did they get access to the internet?

    • BenderMcLugh

      one person says it on Twitter and all of a sudden it’s a call. stupid internets

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      I emailed Jeff using ALL CAPS stating it.

  • BenderMcLugh

    Holy crap, Braverman just signed a 3 year deal with the Pats, not sure how much it’s worth. Here’s him talking about it.

    Really, I can’t know…..relying on long legs?

    https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ

    • beninnorcal

      Future HOF’r

    • Sactowns#1

      Whats with NE picking up our scraps lately?

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Considering Braverman is currently on the Chiefs I find that hard to believe.

    • BenderMcLugh

      did not one of you clowns click the link?

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        we know better.

        • SC Dave

          I should have.

      • willbest

        I clicked on it knowing that I was never going to give you up.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Aaron’s having a great camp. He’s already in mid-season for throwing teammates under the bus…

    https://www.dotemirates.com/en/details/1298714387?from=dot

    • Johnnywad

      I saw that yesterday. What a weenie.

    • willbest

      If I were living in the world that Butch refuses to acknowledge exists, I might say something like, its probably because Danica Patrick can’t handle a hot dog as well as Olivia Munn. But, out of deference to Butch, I will say its probably because things between him and Clay haven’t been going all that well of late.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Gotta figure he’s still pouting about his QB coach and his favorite target being dumped without consulting him.

  • John F
    • Johnnywad

      I read many of these and they’re pretty funny. But this guy needs to proof his stuff before he posts it.

      He’d do well to actually do a little research as well, and understand what Smith’s holdout is about. That whole bit of it rings hollow, because he’s got no idea what he’s talking about.

      Now that said, I laughed out loud at the idea of caving in Kevin White’s chest with a wiffle ball. Good stuff, that.

      • John F

        Every team’s is pretty funny …….. the comments after the main article are pretty good and then the comments after that are hilarious …..

        • Johnnywad

          “We’ve had three noteworthy players in the past 20 years: a QB whose crowning achievement is being the embodiment of a meme for boredom, a LB who looks like a caricature of what Proud Boys think they look like, and a punt returner.“

      • SC Dave

        Best comment:

        “What I hate most about being a Bears fan? When someone asks me my
        favorite team and after a long sigh, I say “the Bears”, they feel the
        need to yell in my face,”DAAAA BEARS!” Every fucking time. All those
        fuckwit Superfans can get fucked with rusty rebar. Throw Ditka in there too.”

    • AlbertInTucson

      Meh. I’m not finding these as entertaining as in years past.

      • Yeah, this year’s not as funny.
        It’s hard to make fun of a coach who’s new, and a QB who hasn’t shown enough to laud or lampoon.

        The NFL booting Jay out sapped a lot of their material.

    • ButtonShoes

      A good reality check to read before the season begins.

  • SC Dave
    • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0

      hope the kid does well!

      • SC Dave

        It would be awesome to get another average-or-better tackle for near-zero draft capital to bookend long-term opposite Leno.

    • willbest

      Do I dare to dream the dream of a wall of giant man meat protecting my QB? I have been burned by it so many times before

    • I wish the broadcasters would say who’s playing on the lines during PS games that way I could keep an eye on them from time to time. Instead, they blather on about stupid shit instead of the actual game.

      I’m curious to see if he could handle a speed rush in obvious passing down, or How he pulls or moves on screens

  • AlbertInTucson

    “…the annual romance…”

    Never believe anything you see or hear about training camp.

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