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An Ex-Pro Personnel Man Breaks Down the Current Roster (Via Text)

| May 7th, 2018

He’s bored. He’s currently unemployed (but not for long). So I asked my buddy, who was formerly the head pro personnel man for an NFL franchise, to break down the Bears roster. Here it is.


Quarterback: “Our college guys loved Trubisky. What he put on tape last year was unimpressive but if he can’t succeed with that staff and the talent they’ve acquired, it’s going to be on him.”


Running Back: “The strength of the roster.”


Receivers & Tight Ends: “As individuals, they are all talented. But that group has to play like a group. They have to be unselfish. They have to work hard for each other. And it’ll be interesting to see if Nagy can get those new boys, some making A LOT of money, to do that.”


Offensive Line: “I question the tackles, on the right side more than the left, and really only in the passing game. But Nagy and Helfrich are going to get the ball out of the quarterback’s hand much quicker than last season and those guys can hold up for 2-3 seconds. Underrated group.”


Defensive Line: “The two in the middle are men. Real men. Old school, NFL men. Not much else there.”


Outside Linebackers: “Vic is a good coach but that staff is not doing a great job with Floyd. All of his success is based on athleticism but he still plays undisciplined. But if he stays healthy he can still be a double-digit sack guy. Do they have another relevant rush guy?”

Note: No.


Inside Linebackers: “A+ unit.” 

Note: This individual was the reason I became so high on Roquan Smith. He believed Roquan was the best player in this draft. Not best linebacker. Not best defender. Best player.


Defensive Backs: “Serviceable across the board. Fuller can play like a star at times but every other player back there is good, not great.”

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  • SC Dave

    Looks about right, although he is obviously overly enamored of R. Smith. Because unless he is a superstar, you cannot call he, Trevathan, Kwiat, and whoever else makes the roster to join Nick as backup an “A+” unit.

    • DaBearsBlog

      His Roquan love is real.

      • Juan Stone

        I see that, but can “Roq” turn that LB group into A+ players? But jess, it’s encouraging that “Roq” has star potential.

        See how I did that Canada? Hee hee.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I’m thinking Roquan or Danny gets injured and Iggy becomes my hero after his first A gap blitz.
      (that Fangio hasn’t called). We need a playmaker on D that is going to drive Fangio mad like Mac did Ditka.

      “WHY DID YOU BLITZ THE QB?”
      “There was nobody blocking me” (shrugs)

      That kind of thing is needed on such a ball-less, toothless defense.

      • BenderMcLugh

        lol

      • CanadaBear

        Top 10 D last year and 7th in sacks without a pro-bowl player. Yeah, they really suck.

        • leftcoastdave

          While I agree in principle, I think we need to temper that “top ten” thing, given the reality of the opposing O settling into a more conservative game when holding a lead which was not likely to be threatened by the hamstrung Fox O.
          This year the D may not perform as well on paper simply because the opposing team will need to put up more points to win.

          • CanadaBear

            You’re ignoring the TOP. By the end of the year Hicks and a few others were completely worn out.

          • Irish Sweetness

            And so the next guy steps up … on a sb squad .. .Pace hasn’t given us that squad. He has failed, regardless of what actually happens this year. We do not have a SB squad built to last.

          • CanadaBear

            Who the fuck does?

        • Irish Sweetness

          Top 10 means you were 10th. I’m talking about having the best defense, not the third or 4th. And if you’re holding up 7th in sacks and giving ourselves a big pat on the back …. I don’t know what to say. NOBODY is afraid of the Bears D. Certainly no QB in the NFL. All those Jeff George’s waiting for their career day off us. I really can’t imagine what any of you see that’s great in that defense thus far. It’s mediocre.

      • leftcoastdave

        I’m advised that Fangio regularly reads this blog and will be taking your advice on QB pressure much more this year, now that he has better secondary support. Of course, I cannot name my source or . . . well, you know the likely consequences.

    • Bears314

      Iggy is a 4th round pick let’s go ahead and pencil him in as a backup..

      • Irish Sweetness

        Danny T could be out by week one.

  • Alex

    I think the above is all fair and pretty much represents the view of most on the state of the Bears roster. It has plenty of potential but could do with some improvements in 2 or 3 specific areas though most NFL rosters could of course.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Sounds like this “anonymous” personnel man really likes the team. 16-0

  • Irish Sweetness

    We have no replacement for Howard – I don’t see how that’s the strength of the roster. If you have a backup for Howard and a backup for Tarik, then yes.

    Other than that, I’ll buy it. We’ve got a fair group … but no pass rush, and zero depth on the DL. So be it.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Ryan Nall.

    • BenderMcLugh

      in 2017, 7th in the league in sacks but no pass rush. gotchya.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Irish don’t care about stats.

        • Irish Sweetness

          The score on the board after the game is over.

      • Irish Sweetness

        7th! Jesus. Does the sack-statistic show if we pressure the QB on obvious passing downs? What about hurries? Knockdowns. Fangio was blitzing less than anyone in the NFL at one point. that’s not balanced. Balanced would be great.

        • BenderMcLugh

          Don’t care about balance if the d gets the job done

    • CanadaBear

      How many RB’s are gonna be on your 46-man game day roster?

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        42

        • CanadaBear

          With 4, 6’5″ WR’s to round out the 46!

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Oh I forgot about the WRs. I figured QB, backup QB, kicker, and punter as the other 4.

          • leftcoastdave

            Who needs a stinkin punter?

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            We’re going for it on every 4th down this year. Everyone else is just a pussy.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            It’s my team and I will build it how I want. And I WANT a PUNTER!!!!

      • Juan Stone

        All the Bears need is 1 stud RB that never goes down. If Howard and Cohen stay healthy all year, the Bears can make the playoffs if Nagy doesn’t screw the pooch.

        I think Irish will be very pleased with our RB’s come December.

        • CanadaBear

          Yeah, me too. I think Howard will have his best year because of all the other options. Unless the injury bug goes on unabated I like their chances of playing .500 ball this year. Baby steps.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Injuries, man. Injuries.

      • Irish Sweetness

        For me, four. Get rid of Burton the FB. If I need a FB I’ll use a TE or JH.

  • Artoo

    The Bears have potential but it has to come together. This song and dance is so familiar.

    That being said, it’s still cool that this person took their time to go over the Bears for Jeff. I just think this year will be slightly disappointing.

    The first year of a new offense usually has to work through a lot of things and the scout above nailed it, they have to play as a group.

    The Eagles, the Rams, and even the Jaguars figured that out. I hope the Bears can do the same.

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      Well the team seemed like a complete train wreck two years ago.

      Th foundation then seemed to be made out of toothpicks. At least now it’s concrete.

      • Juan Stone

        Toothpicks in concrete? Hmm… that sounds sooo Kevin White-ish.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          That, good sir, was my collegiate nickname.

    • Sup, ‘Too.

  • Bears-4-Ever

    Cool read. I know you won’t tell us but I’d really be interested on who wrote this. I think I’m mostly concerned with the WR/TE Corps. I’d love to see Trubisky light it up this year but we need some good hands out there to make him look like a hero.

    • BenderMcLugh

      interesting that WR/TE is the top concern considering how much they upgraded those positions. My only concern there is the gelling of the group, as the personnel guy stated. I’m most concerned about the pass rush, followed closely by Mitch’s growth & development.

      • CanadaBear

        I’m most concerned about the O in general. Unless the O is hideous, the D should get more rest this season. NTM everything I’ve read Smith is a tackling machine so that should help! I’m not expecting the O to be hitting on all cylinders out of the gate but I do expect it to be improved (by a lot).

        • BenderMcLugh

          agreed about the O, but I have faith the talent will prove out as long as Mitch keeps improving. My concern over the pass rush for this year is based on losing a couple of older guys that don’t seem to have an immediate replacement. This should all shake out in a few months though and hopefully Pace will add another veteran/FA to the pass rush mix.

      • Irish Sweetness

        WCO. Timing patterns. This will be a long painful process. According to Steve Young, three years.

        If anyone expects this offense to hum on day one they’re dreaming. Miller will leave MT hung out to dry.

  • leftcoastdave

    Speaking of Edge, did anyone else see the chatter about Shane Ray of the horsies? They drafted Bradley Chubb and are moving to a base 4-3 making Ray a potential move from their roster. And guess who we are holding a practice week with? Yup, possible trade for Kwik.

    https://broncoswire.usatoday.com/2018/04/26/denver-broncos-news-shane-ray-fifth-year-option-bradley-chubb/

  • leftcoastdave

    Fifth year option declined on Shane Ray. Trade chatter with da Bears.

    https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/broncos-decline-fifth-year-option-on-shane-ray-050318

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Where is this connection with a possible trade with the Bears? Read your link and the Denver one below, so just curious why the Bears are in the mix.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Biggs, Trib:

        Nick Kwiatowski for Shane Ray? Two players that could use a different scheme. Any chance? — @MikeyLillo

        I would disagree that Kwiatkoski needs a scheme change. He has fit relatively well in what the Bears have been doing. What I’m sure he would like is a clearer path to competing for a starting role entering his third season. He appears blocked now with the addition of first-round pick Roquan Smith and veteran Danny Trevathan. It’s not like Kwiatkoski no longer fits what the Bears are doing defensively. Ray has been mentioned as a guy who might no longer fit in Denver, especially after North Carolina State defensive end Bradley Chubb fell into the Broncos’ lap at No. 5 in the first round. Ray had eight sacks in 2016, his second season, and fell off last season when he was limited to eight games. It’s possible the Broncos look to move him, but I’m not sure they would view Kwiatkoski as the fit they want. If Ray remains with the Broncos, the Bears will be able to get a close look at him in the joint practices the team will hold in Denver this summer before the exhibition meeting between the teams. You’re thinking along the right lines in looking at players who might no longer fit with their current clubs.

        • What I’m sure he would like is a clearer path to competing for a starting role –
          Kwiat’s been given EVERY opportunity to show he’s more than a JAG, and he’s not.
          Pace would’ve loved nothing better than to have discovered a gem in the mid rds at ILB, but instead he drafted Kwiat and had to use a top #10 on Smith.

          I’m not even sure Kwiat is superior to Christian Jones when all is said and done.

          • CanadaBear

            You’re bitching about a 4th rd pick that is JAG. I get that’s not super exciting but it’s not bad for a 4th pick. He’s not making much money. When it’s time for his second contract, if he is nothing more than JAG he will go down the road just like Jones. You make it sound like Pace somehow fucked up and had to Smith. I don’t get you sometimes.

          • I’m not bitching about him. You don’t think Pace would’ve wanted a Navarro Bowman instead of Kwiat?

            He took his swing, and he missed. That simple.

            And I don’t think he was superior to Christian Jones who at least provides some flexibility at other positions.

            Anything beyond the 4rth RD is a crap shoot, but still swung and missed and had to use a top 10 to make up for the miss (and let’s not forget Freeman).

            He hit on Jackson and Howard. But of course if I point that out, then the haters will say I’m saying Pace is the greatest GM ever.

            I guess a fan has to be Left Coast or Button Shoes these days, no inbetween.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            You went on quite the rant the other day. So everyone reads your posts lately with a negative tone. Unfortunately the last few weeks your posts are a hell of a lot closer to Button Shoes than you probably realize.

            With that said, you forget most of us applauded the Freeman signing and his first year he was our arguably our best ILB, at a relatively low cost. Also he was 30 when we signed him so it is safe to say that Pace would have been looking at getting his replacement sooner than later especially since he was on basically a 2 yr deal.

          • The diff between Button Shoes and I (and he can correct me if I’m wrong) is that he’s skeptic believing that they are doomed (as a lifelong bear fan, I can relate).

            I’m pretty much exactly where I was with Cutler. A Pace agnostic. I’ll need evidence to believe.

            Could make a big ole list of misses, big ole list of hits.

            But I said at the start that Pace would need to have a SEA style draft bonanza (which means scoring with Kwiat/Grasu picks) to turn around this team quickly. He didn’t. Pace has hit and missed on par, and here we are 3 yrs later, drafting in the top 10, again.

            It’s understandable (to some degree). One can say Pace is unlucky (with White/Freeman/Royal/McDonald… ‘inheriting’ Fox) but at SOME point, the buck’s gotta stop somewhere.

            The ‘unkown unkown’ is the Nagy/Trub combo. And like all unknown unknowns, will make the greatest impact.

          • Irish Sweetness

            How is one aware of an unknown unknown? By definition …

          • BerwynBomber

            I didn’t think he was bitching about Kwiat being a fourth round JAG but only objecting to the notion that Kwiat needs a clearer path to compete for a starting job. Which was suggested by Al or what Al was quoting.

            I’m with Butch. Kwiat’s had a chance. Maybe he ultimately proves himself to be a starter but right now he looks like a career back-up guy.

            Btw, I do differ with Butch’s use of JAG. To me it’s more for PS-level guys than back-ups (and yes, there can be a world of difference between the two). But hey, semi-splitting hairs in regard to the main point of these posts.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He isn’t close I would have thought. HE’s a backup for whom the penny may drop one day. I’d cut him straight up, he’s taking a spot from a baller.

        • ManGod

          Also, few are reading between the lines here regarding the R Smith pick.and D Trevathan’s contract and injury history. Remember this, 1st) he is 28 and will be 29 in 2019 2nd) 2019 is his final year of contract 3rd) 2019 cap hit, 7,650,000 dead cap money 1,250,000….Kwit and R Smith could very easily be the starting ILB’s before 2018 is half over….and easily be the starters 2019. Also, the drop off in production would be very limited if any and actually might be higher in terms of overall production with Kwit and Smith vs Trevathan & Smith or Trevathan & Kwit. Put frankly, I do not see the Bears, Pace and Fangio making a trade of S Raye for Kwit…..the value of loss vs gain is simply not there especially if Fangio believes Lynch is capable of returning to his early form and production under Fangio.

    • Bears don’t have a 2nd. I’m guessing that would’ve helped.

      Maybe we can trade Anthony Miller (2nd and 4rth) and Kwiat for Ray and a 3rd or something.

  • RedBulls83

    Maybe with the addition of Quan they can stop having Floyd dropping back in coverage.

  • Here wouldv’e been my texting.

    QB. TBD. Not having a franchise QB is like not having gas in your car, the rest almost doesn’t matter
    RB. Thumbs up emoticon
    TE. Sasheen=Spaeth, Burton=Rodriquez until season proves otherwise
    Oline. Solid. Kush-Push?
    Dline. Prayer hand emoticon Hicks doesn’t go down
    OLB. Floyd needs to finally live up to his draft price. Acho is the Timu of OLB. Y isn’t Houston signed yet?
    ILB. Promising.
    DBs. Can someone PLZ get a TO for fucksake?

    • BerwynBomber

      Jackson can get TOs. I think he’ll prove a bit of ball hawk his NFL career.

      Fuller can create a few too. But yeah I wouldn’t count on much from Amos and Prince.

      Laughably as it might sound, from a pure ball skills perspective, LeBlanc might be on par with Fuller in that singular aspect. He has created 3 TOs in limited time and has been close on a few other occasions.

      • Johnnywad

        I think Jackson has star potential. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him blow up this fall.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Amos has done nothing wrong. Because his name doesn’t come up people think he’s a JAG or something.

        Hall is the guy we might expect something from too. We’re okay at DB. No pass rush. And that means it doesn’t matter if you have HOFers in that D-backfield. Somebody will get open.

  • BerwynBomber

    Sounds like Jeff thinks Mitch Trubisky and Roquan Smith are the two biggest can’t-miss prospects in the last twenty years.

  • BerwynBomber

    Btw, liked this guy’s take, even if I’m a little suspicious of the crazy-for-you-baby Roquan love.

    Otherwise seemed rational/measured. His take on our OL and secondary seemed especially solid.

    • Seems like the prereq for Jeff’s future orbit is

      Worship Cutler Trubisky
      Love Roquan

      • BerwynBomber

        LOL. Yes. I’m sure if Jahns, Hoge, Silvy, Waddle, AD and JW had been perceived as serious Cutty critics, theyda been bus-tossed.

  • Irish Sweetness

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