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Across The Middle: Quick Thoughts On Bears Spending Spree

| March 13th, 2018

A few quick thoughts on what turned out to be a busy and productive day for the Bears:

• They paid more than they wanted to, but the Bears ended up with the best receiver they could possibly acquire this offseason. How could anybody be upset with that? The jury is still out on whether or not Robinson is actually a great receiver. He had one tremendous year followed by a mediocre year then a torn ACL. But he’s better than anyone else they could’ve gotten in free agency or the draft.

• The Bears were always going to be the team Robinson ended up with. Nobody else really had a chance. Pace and pro personnel man Champ Kelly made damn sure of that.

• Signing Trey Burton will help Jordan Howard as much as it will Mitch Trubisky. With his athleticism, Burton is going to allow the Bears to play in two-tight end sets that can’t be defended by base defenses. While he isn’t a good blocker by any stretch of the imagination, he’s still better than a standard slot receiver who would otherwise be on the field against those defenses. The end result should be a lot of soft fronts for Howard to punish.

• I’m glad the Bears took my advise from my Feb. 14 ATM. Size matters.

• I wouldn’t worry too much about a slot receiver for the Bears. With what they paid Burton, he better be on the field. Between him, Tarik Cohen and Cam Meredith (who played in the slot 52 percent of the time in 2016, per PFF), there aren’t that many snaps to go around.

• The Bears do still need to add some speed though. I expect them to draft a speedster at some point, there are going to be plenty available in the middle rounds.

UPDATE: After this was initially posted the Bears reportedly agreed to terms with Taylor Gabriel. Gabriel is short, but he isn’t a slot receiver (44 receiving yards from the slot in 2017 per PFF). He’ll add speed and the ability to make plays after the catch.

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• The signing I liked the most was probably Cody Parkey. We’ve suffered with bullshit kickers for long enough. Parkey has kicked in Philadelphia and Cleveland so he should be able to handle the Chicago weather.

• Mitch Trubisky has to be feeling a little pressure now, but the job will seem easy in Year Two with the likes of Burton, Meredith, Robinson and Shaheen all on the field at the same time. He had growing pains last year, but having very little talent around him didn’t help.

• The Bears still have a lot of work to do. Phil Emery won every offseason and nobody gives a shit now. But they needed better players and they did a good job of adding young talent. Now, they have to put it all together. It’s a player’s league a bad coach can win with great players, but a great coach can’t win with bad players. This was a great start to Pace’s offseason.

• How the hell did Sam Bradford get $20 million? He’s made of glass.

• Remember on Monday when the Packers were supposedly in the mix to sign Robinson, Watkins, Burton and pretty much every other high-priced free agent? People long blamed Ted Thompson for not signing free agents, the reality is free agents don’t want to go to Green Bay. Ron Wolf didn’t blow up free agency either. The Packers are the team agents use as a pawn and their fans fall for it every year. (Minutes after this was posted, Adam Schefter reported the Packers were going to sign Jimmy Graham. I don’t care, they can have a 31-year-old tight end who is clearly declining).

• Kirk Cousins might not produce significantly more than Case Keenum did for the Vikings, but they can rely on his production going forward. There was no way of knowing if Keenum could play that well again, but Cousins has put together three years with more than 4,000 yards and 25 touchdowns. As long as the Vikings get that kind of production from their passing game, they’ll be contenders. They’ll lose key defensive players, but Rick Spielman and Mike Zimmer know how to build that side of the ball.

  • catfish44

    Greg Gabriel Retweeted

    @AnthonyDiMoro
    2h2 hours ago

    Redskins To Sign Paul Richardson http://ow.ly/b4uC50gPXzx

  • Bear Instincts
  • Sactowns#1

    I can dig it. I would like some defensive help but I know there arent a lot of A+ talent guys out there hitting FA.

  • willbest

    Do we still like Robinson now that Nelson is available?

    • Bear Instincts

      Hell yeah we still like Robinson. He is younger with lots of upside. J.Nelson is old and declining in production. He belongs on a team that is ready to win now. We are still a year or two away from truly competing as a juggernaut

      • chitownproud85

        Yeap. Would have been ridiculed as another attempt to patch a round hole with a square peg. We dont need some old ass likely to drop off swiftly. We need young talent that can grow with Biscuit.

        • SC Dave

          Yeah, like Jordan Howard.

          • chitownproud85

            We already have Jordan Howard lol

    • chitownproud85

      I do. I really wouldnt mind Nelson as the 2nd or 3rd receiver we signed, but if a 26 year old Allen Robinson magically appears like a Pokemon, you catch that ass. Ultra ball. Whatever it takes. I’m getting tired of preinjured, but the potential upside here(and what we know of the actual deal so far) makes it more than worth it. Likely to be on the hook for two years money wise, and of course signed for three if he pans out. Not bad. Not bad at all. I am feeling greedy as all hell and would have liked another high profile signing, but I’m sure when I step away from this nonsense for a few hours I’ll get most of my logic back and I’ll be happy with what they did. Cam Meredith, Kendall Wright, Allen Robinson, Taylor Gabriel, and the forever optimistic view of Kevin Whites upside makes things a little rosier this year. There is that new tight end too, though I’m not exactly sure where all the hype for that one comes from. Dude was the 2nd best TE on his team, and while his stats were pretty good in conjunction with his limited playing time, we’ve already got resources tied up in that spot, unless they decide to cut Sims.

      • SC Dave

        I like the idea of two TE sets that let JH run against base defenses.

        That guy is definitely good enough to win rushing titles.

        Yeah, it’s a passimg league, but a guy averaging 90 per game on the ground would sure be nice.

        Edit: or hell, averaging 125 per game.

      • leftcoastdave

        If Sims cannot be traded, and quick, he will be gone.

        • CanadaBear

          Ain’t nobody trading for Sims. And yes he will be gone.

          • ButtonShoes

            Sims, Wheaton, and Cooper all had better be sent packing by the end of the week.

          • CanadaBear

            I read where the Bears don’t Wheaton any money until the season starts so he might make it through camp. Who knows?

          • AlbertInTucson

            Trade for a guy who is expected to be cut loose, anyway?

            THAT would be a Bears move.

          • To the Browns for one of their million 7th rounders.

    • Nelson ran like a dad last season.

      He’s now a dad runner.

      He done.

    • catfish44

      sure, nelson is 32 years old. he wouldn’t be around when the bears finally get good.

  • Bear Instincts

    Now that we are set at WR its very likely that the draft will focus on a defensive player unless Nelson is waiting for us at #8

  • leftcoastdave

    Wow. Three new targets, size and speed.

    Does anybody think Pace did not hit day one out of the park?

    • SC Dave

      Day 1 is tomorrow. Just sayin’
      🙂

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

        Isn’t that just some bullshit?

        It’s so weird the way they’ve set this up.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Where’s the size Dave?

  • SC Dave

    “It’s a player’s league a bad coach can win with great players, but a great coach cannot win with bad players.”

    A thousand amens, AD.

    Nor can oline coaches turn sows’ ears into silk purses.

    Gimme Nelson and we’re talking. We have little idea about Kush, and less about Long. Signing Sowell was a good depth step since both his legs work.

    But you guys know me. I believe great teams are built from the line of scrimmage back, and from the middle out.

    Get Nelson. Move Cody back to center. If Long cant do it, get Kush in there.

    • Malice Halice

      Nelson is still better than the all tenure WR on our roster. So I’d take him, close to home, n now he got something to prove against his old team!

      • SC Dave

        I was talking about Quentin Nelson, not Jordy. That guy is a fucking Packer, dude.

        More likely scenario is some cheeseball cheap shots him to IR

      • leftcoastdave

        You’re talking about two different Nelsons!

      • catfish44

        32 years old and declining.

    • leftcoastdave

      With the love Pace is giving to Trub today it is hard not to think he will grab Nelson if available. But now the concern remains the D until we see otherwise.

      • SC Dave

        On my phone, which makes search, cut, and paste more work tham I want to do.

        Or I’d again post the quote frpm Nelson about how he wants to dominate the man in front of him, and *take away his desire to play the game*.

        I cannot say how much I want that. And have it spread like some north korean computer virus and infect the *entire team*.

        Damn, that shit is like Atkins or Butkus.

        Old school.

        #Monsters

        • leftcoastdave

          A young Kyle Long.

    • Irish Sweetness

      O-line coaches have turned an O-line from worst to first in one year with no new players though … KC did it.

  • catfish44

    Greg Gabriel taylor gabriel signed.
    @greggabe
    Bears receivers had trouble getting separation in ‘17. That won’t be a problem with Robinson and Gabriel

    5:32 PM – Mar 13, 2018

    Gabriel to Bears

    Andrew Hawkins

    @Hawk
    Taylor Gabriel expected to sign with the Chicago Bears on a 4 year deal. per source.

    Taylor Gabriel is my source. #ThomaHawk

    4:16 PM – Mar 13, 2018

  • AlbertInTucson

    “How the hell did Sam Bradford get $20 million? He’s made of glass.”

    The Cardinals showing desperation.

    Sam Bradford behind THAT offensive line is the football equivalent of Russian Roulette with more than 1 round chambered.

  • Pace, if you’re reading this between making it rain, sign Dustin Colquitt!

    #ToLegitToColquitt

    • AlbertInTucson

      From the First Family of Punters.

    • SC Dave

      Wouldn’t that make it a FUCKING DAY?

  • Is Taylor Gabriel a lock for Bears? I suspected he or one of the Browns would be Pace’s plan B/C for Richardson or Wilson.

    He’d be an upgrade over Wright.

    This just in. Malcom Butler to Titans on monster deal. Not going to Loins.

  • Malice Halice

    Since Malcolm Butler going to Tennessee. We should act fast on Grimes or Breeland.

    • SC Dave

      Why?

      I’d rather they be sure to keep Callahan

      • Malice Halice

        Fuller can use a better comrade on the other side of da hashes

        • SC Dave

          There are limits to how much can be spent. In a season or two, there are going to be several players to extend. I suppose could get someone with the idea of cutting him later, but…

        • Irish Sweetness

          I thought he was our Nickel.

    • I don’t think Pace is going to get a 2nd tier CB after signing A-Rob and Burton.

      I was looking at TJ Carrie as an under rated CB, but I think Pace will go lower.

      Maybe re-sign Prince or some other youngster with upside like Terrance Mitchell, ex Chief, only 26.

      • Malice Halice

        We still got the draft as well.

        • Yeah, that’s why I think he’s not gonna sign a great CB in FA.

          A guy like Prince would give him the flexibility to still jump on a CB at #8 if he wants.

  • Any word on Fulton?
    I love Pace’s moves thus far, but gotta focus on the lines.

    http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2018G.php

    Jonathan Cooper available? Be interesting to see if our new Oline maven can salvage a top 10 OG.

    Only 28.

    Luke Joekle an OG. (26)

    Pugh and Mewhort for those who don’t care about INJs.

    • leftcoastdave

      Fulton still favored to land in Houston.

      • Like Wilson, he might be more expensive than originally predicted.

        • leftcoastdave

          But with the “favored to land in Houston” out in the media, funny to have not heard yet. His he and his agent might still be weighing offers.

  • On the OLB tip.

    Dee Ford (ex Chief). 10 sacks in ’16. only 27. Back.

    http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2018OLB.php

    Shaq Barrett looked good to me, but he’s an RFA. Wonder what the tender is?

    Mingo at yo baby (27) might be a Christian Jones replacement.

    Still would LOVE me some Trent Murphy (27). He balled when I watched him, though how much of that was the juice?

    Ealy still available. Is he more OLB or DE in a 3-4?

  • That Guy

    Think of this. Cam and Robinson are both recovering from early-season ACLs.

    Put aside how 15 years ago, an ACL tear was pretty much the end of your career.

    If even one of those two bounces back and gets back to normal a year after his ACL tear, we’ve got a legit WR1. If White can keep his body together for a season, and with Gabriel and Cohen, there is legit intimidating speed operating out of the slot and WR2. Then you have pass-catching matchup nightmares like Shaheen and Burton.

    Holy crap. With HH taking the OLine to the next level (and probably a day 1-2 pick on the OLine), the Bears’ offense is going to take a MAJOR step up.

    On paper, this is pure jackoff material, boys. This is Kate Upton topless. This is Kate Beckinsale’s ass in spandex.

    Enjoy it while we can, before someone else blows an ACL.

    • 80s gratuitous boobs all around.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

        Butch, how ya feelin?

        I think Pace sees a window opening. He’s pulling the trigger today even faster than I thought he would.

        The decisiveness from the moment he drafted Trubisky is starting to pay off.

        From firing Fox to the way he approached the coaching hire, to what he’s done this week already. He’s not fucking around. This is where I thought we were going. And it looks pretty damn good on paper.

        • I’m feeling waaaay better.

          I just looked at Andy’s Ass To Mouth piece from Feb 14, and this is what I wrote then:

          “IMO Pace would have to have a close to perfect offseason.

          1st he has to lock up Fuller and Prince (or other CB on par) and Callahan. $ not an issue, right?

          He has to kill FA in the first day (he hasn’t thus far)

          Get at least two premium FAs.

          WR, OLB

          Sign upside 2nd day guys . Dline, Oline, ILB, K, P, etc

          Then Pace would be free in the draft to stay close to BPA

          Then he can build for the future.

          I still have hope, but the margin of error (esp in our division) is slim.

          Pace will have to transcend his mediocrity.”

          Update. I think today he has by signing not 1 but 4 quality FAs. A major departure from his MO.

          Maybe the stench of the Glennon class lingered in his mouth. Maybe he finally began feeling the heat. Maybe the new HC-QB combo attracted FAs.

          Dunno.

          But I like the results, and he’s still not done.

          I’m pumped.

          • leftcoastdave

            Maybe having a core of young players combined with his new contract gave him the confidence that now is the time?

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            I think he’s been planning for this. It’s likely why he’s only signed team friendly time frame deals so far. Kept his powder dry.

          • See, I don’t really think that.
            I don’t think Pace was saying to himself, “You know, I wanna get better, but I don’t want to get THAT much better”

            When Pace signed McPhee and Hicks, he was thinking franchise pass rusher. When he signed Glennon, he wasn’t thinking smoke screen. When he got Demps, he honestly thought he’d be better than Amos. Sims>Miller. I don’t even know what he was thinking with Barf, and don’t really want to know.

            Pace didn’t bog down the cap, but hey, he hasn’t done that really this FA either.

            A Robinson is on a reasonable 3 yr contract.
            Burton and Gabriel aren’t going to handicap either.

            Pace has decided to gamble on first day guys instead of 2nd tier players , and more importantly, was able to sign them (unlike Bouye/Gilmore/Alshon)

            I think Nagy/Trub combo attracted FAs this time around and made it easier for Pace to go all-in.

          • SC Dave

            Yeah, the Robbie thing still mystifies me. Maybe because he was the player rep from the “old regime”?

          • Some of his moves baffle me. Like I never got the Grasu pick from day 1. Still don’t understand the rational for cutting Slausen. Could go on, but, hey, all’s well that end’s well, Let’s just hope experience has keened his instincts and eyes.

          • ButtonShoes

            I’m curious to see how he addresses the pass rush. Because he’ll need to find some gems in the draft. Players that are better than Leonard Floyd, frankly.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Leonard Floyd is a STUD. You want sacks? FIRE VIC FANGIO!

            What do you expect Leonard to do on the defense that blitzes less than everybody else?

    • ButtonShoes

      I’m not interested in what this team looks like on paper. Done that too many times and got burned for it. I want to see them play.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

        Lighten up Francis.

        If you’re not excited about today, it’s because you’re trying not to be.

        It’s a good day to be a Bears fan.

        • ButtonShoes

          I’m not excited or sad. Just keeping an even mood. These are moves the Bears had to make. Now it’s time to see them play. The play on the field will determine everything.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            Man. Tough crowd. Seems kinda shitty to bitch about every move that’s made for three seasons but no love when you get what you’ve been asking for.

          • ButtonShoes

            I’m just waiting to see how things turn out. It’s no secret I’ve got no love for Pace and no trust for the Bears. So I’ll wait for results before heaping praise. Good for them on getting the pieces they need, though.

          • Gotta admit, Pace is more aggressive this FA than in previous seasons.

            If he would’ve settle for Wilson and Troy Nicklas on day 1, I would’ve been the first to scorch Pace.

            We’re a better team now than we were yesterday.

            Now it’s pretty much in Nagy and Trub’s court.

          • ButtonShoes

            Pace is committing to some real FAs. That’s a definite change. He may prevaricate and dodge accountability when people ask him questions, but the moves he’s making are all about accountability. If they don’t work out, it’s on him and he’s out on his ass. I can get behind that. No more excuses. Produce or get the fuck out.

          • SC Dave

            I blocked that dude long ago because of the insanely high bitch ratio.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Jack-off material? I don’t buy it. I want an outlet for MT where he can throw the jump ball. It saves so many QBs having a Calvin Johnson, it can make their careers. Shaheen isn’t that dude.

      Pace has signed Robinson at 6’3 to likely replace Cam (hence his cheap tender). He signed midgets elsewhere, and Burton is just a midget TE at 6’3 235.

      Assuming Cam is now done, we have Kevin White and Allen Robinson at 6’3. I guess that’ll have to do. Pace thinks so.

      He’s been busy – let’s see what we have.

      • Robinson is 6’3 220 with a 40 inch vert and iron vices for hands!
        White is 6’3 220. Cam is what, 6’2?
        Tre Burton is 6’3
        Sasheen is like 10 feet tall.

        • CanadaBear

          Cam is 6’3″ also. Unless Pace signs 7 foot WR’s Irish is gonna bitch. It’s kinda like with RB’s. Unless the Bears have 3 1,000 yd rushers with great hands, they need to take the top back in the draft, every year.

  • McCown outlasts Cutler, Trestman and Lovie.

    Funny.

    • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0

      has Cutty thrown in a gold plated towel yet? I think not. McCown got a taste of that money and now he’s going to Fitzpatrick himself to death.

      • SC Dave

        I’d take that career trajectory. I mean, as an NFL QB where you make a bazillion bucks to be slightly less than a JAG.

        • Irish Sweetness

          McCown is a good QB though. I wouldn’t have minded him as the Cutty transition. Didn’t he have like 13-3 TDs-INTs for us. I think it was something like that.

    • SC Dave

      And unsurprising

    • BerwynBomber

      Though I think it is a dim decision by the NYJ. If you’re looking for a bridge, I’d at least go the McCarron route. You’ve already seen McCown. It ain’t getting any better.

      • Yeah, but Jets have been a clown show for a while now.
        Forte said that McCown provides much needed leadership in that locker room. That McCown holds ppl responsible and garners respect.

        The Jets are drafting a QB, and my guess is they want that QB to enter that type of locker room instead of some QB competition media frenzy.

  • • The Bears do still need to add some speed though. I expect them to
    draft a speedster at some point, there are going to be plenty available
    in the middle rounds. – Andy

    D’Anthony Thomas (25) is a burner and KR.

    I was expecting more from our return game last season. Maybe Thomas can jump start that. He’s one of those jet sweep WRs.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      They picked up Gabriel – he’s got 4.4 speed.

      • Didn’t realize Gabriel was that fast. Thought he was one of those quicker than fast guys.
        Deum. That’s fast.
        And according to stats, he’s an X/Z WR, though I suspect he’ll be moved around.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          Bellamy ran a 4.37 and Meredith a 4.42.

        • SC Dave

          Hopefully, these new guys all have the elusive “football IQ”.

  • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0

    Chicago Bears in talks to sign recently released Packers WR Jordy Nelson
    -Rotoworld

    • ha. No way.
      Though we could pull a Pats. Squeeze him for intel, then release him.

      • Russian Hacked Pacebot 2.0

        Jason LaCanfora reporting that NFCN team in “serious discussions” with talented black athlete.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Amendola just signed with the Dolphins.

      Could Nelson end up in NE?

      • Think they have met their quota of INJ prone white dudes.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Yeah, I forgot they’re probably expecting Edelman back.

        • SC Dave

          Except Nelson with go 80 / 1220 / 8 with Brady.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Wonder if it takes Jimmy Graham as long to get on the same page as Rodgers as it took him with Wilson?

  • AlbertInTucson

    We can only hope the Jimmy Graham signing will work out as well for the Packers as the Martellus Bennett signing did.

    FYI: Both guys are 31. Graham will be 32 before December.

    • ButtonShoes

      I hope a truck falls on Jimmy Graham.

      • Irish Sweetness

        He’d still manage to drop it.

  • ButtonShoes

    Trumaine Johnson to the Jets. He would have been a nice pickup. Oh well.

  • leftcoastdave

    Mo Wilkerson wants to play on a winner.

    I hope he and his agent are paying attention.

    • SC Dave

      We are not a winner. We have finished last in the division four years in a row.

      • leftcoastdave

        I think Pace has done a great job and this should be getting quite a bit of attention among the agents. Specifically vis. Mo, what better D front to join for the glory? With Hicks and Goldman, that is a Monster D front.

    • I read his market is cold as Eskimo ass.

      Might be able to get him on the cheap.

      • SC Dave

        2 x vet minimum with lots of incentives.

      • leftcoastdave

        He strutted up to Cheseland, saw the place, and went to KC where he thought life would be more fun. He might not have gotten the treatment he hoped for in KC so today he was in Washington and is now pondering his next move.
        Maybe getting a dose of reality coming down from that last contract?

        • Think so. It’s rarely a good sign when a cut- player is traveling to 4-5 places on his own dime.

          I think he’s going to be forced to play on a 1-yr prove it deal or really team friendly contract with lots of clauses.

  • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

    I wonder what John Fox is thinking today.

    • CanadaBear

      FML. Oh yeah, I’ve got a $5 million year-long paid vacation. SWEET TITTIES!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • SC Dave

        ha ha ha

        I did see an interview, and he did say he was getting paid pretty well to do nothing.

        • So, Fox took another coaching job?

          • SC Dave

            Not going there. They guy was dealt a pretty shitty hand to play.

          • leftcoastdave

            Yup. He knew his marching orders were to make the best of a bad situation and get Biscuit ready to play quarterback. Any wonder he was not the most talkative about it when interviewed?

      • How awful must one be to get paid $5M to go away?

        Answer. Very.

        • CanadaBear

          I’m just glad he left. Sunk cost.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Shh. You might wake him.

    • ButtonShoes

      Whatever he’s doing, I hope a piano falls on him.

    • Irish Sweetness

      “I’m a millionaire.”

  • BerwynBomber

    Refreshing to know that the Cheese’s new GM is as dedicated to fixing their D as Ted Thompson was.

    Keep on thinking an aging, expensive TE is the reason you can’t get to another SB, guys. Meanwhile the rest of us will count on your D giving up 38 a game when it truly matters.

    • CanadaBear

      I’m hoping they extend Matthews!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • It’s crazy, but I think going O is an over all trend.

      Everyone watched the SB last yr, and D was non-existent.

      So teams probably conclude – better load up on O.

      The pendulum has swung back from the SEA/Donk SBs.

      Even the Jags, by far the best D last season, couldn’t keep the Pats under 24.

      That, and there’s really no premium Dline or Edge FAs this offseason.

      They may have tried for Malcom Butler or something, but not much out there on the first day on D.

      I expect a lot of activity though after tmrw on the D front.

      • BenderMcLugh

        Butler got what, 60mil? No thanks

        • Yeah, mucho $, but I think Fuller is aiming for the same.
          Might end up getting $14M/yr.

          That’s another reason I didn’t expect Pace to land, say, Trumain Johnson once Fuller was tagged.

  • BerwynBomber

    Looks like Jeff quickly backed off his “I love the Cousins going to MIN” tweet from earlier.

    Smart move. Dumb tweet.

    EDIT: my bad. Just noticed this is an AD article.

  • leftcoastdave
  • John F

    I thought the grease fire that was the Bears would scare away any quality free agents.

    Well, I was wrong ………….. in free agency money overcomes just about anything I guess.

    P.S. – Players must REALLY not want to go to Green Bay ………….

    • ButtonShoes

      Graham and Wilkerson going there so far.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

        Too bad for the Packers it isn’t 2013

        • ButtonShoes

          Yup. But I don’t count out Jordan Rodgers’s brother to fix whatever’s ailing with Jimmy Graham. And Mike Pettine is an upgrade over Dom Capers. But yeah. It’s 2018, not 2013. And those guys are shells of what they were.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Major drops. That’s good news for us. Wilkerson not so much.

  • Bears play in the HOF game too, right?
    So get to see the shiny new toys earlier than usual.

    • John F

      vs Ravens

    • CanadaBear

      I had to laugh reading Moon Mullin the other day when he referred to the Bears O last year as archaic. That’s on the nose!

      • ButtonShoes

        Moon? Criticizing the Bears? Well now I have seen everything.

        • CanadaBear

          Overall I don’t mind him. I much prefer the guys on that site to the dopes at the Trib.

      • Like cranking up the ole Romanian Jericho missile defense…

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  • ButtonShoes

    Peckers got Wilkerson. If they can rehabilitate him…well, shit.

    • CanadaBear

      If not, Boo-Yah!

      • ButtonShoes

        Yeah. Gotta hope he plays for them just like he has for the Jets recently.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Well that sucks. Not only did we not get him, prioritizing another TE acquisition, 6’3 235 tight end instead … but he’s going to flatten MT twice a season.

  • CanadaBear

    It will be interesting to see if they put Gabriel and Cohen together on the field. Two really tiny guys that scare the shit out of teams.

    • SC Dave

      Expect it.

  • ButtonShoes

    Bears re-signing Prince. I’m mixed on this. I want a ballhawk CB, and he isn’t one.

    • I expected this. This gives Pace draft flexiblity. Also, he still needs $ to throw at Fuller.

      If he went out and bought a premium CB, that would probably not go over well with Fuller.

      I still think CB is a real option at #8.

      • ButtonShoes

        If they draft a CB at #8, this will make more sense. But we need pass rushers so bad…I get the feeling Pace will cheap out and gamble on a CB in the 4th round or later, like he always does.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          So do you want him to draft an edge rusher first or a CB? You can’t do both. Or is another Eddie Jackson good enough late?

          And nothing about Pace is cheap. He moved up to get Floyd. He moved up to get Trubisky. And he just bought you a whole new offense and coaching staff.

          • ButtonShoes

            Honestly we need both. If I had to pick I’d say edge, otherwise the defense isn’t doing jack shit next year. But I miss having ballhawking CBs like Peanut and Tim Jennings. And when it comes to our secondary, he definitely cheaps out. Both in FA and the draft. There’s a reason that when people have talked about our defense in the past few years, they talk about the front 7 and only the front 7.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            I disagree. When is the last time we had a pair of young safeties better than Jackson and Amos? Mike Brown and who? Fuller played like on of the best five or six corners in the league last year.

          • ButtonShoes

            Yeah it’s been a long time since we’ve had safeties like this. But Jackson and Amos aren’t exactly the Legion of Boom. Still I will grant that at least they are serviceable and you can run with them as starters. And yeah, Fuller played great last year. Let’s see him do it again this coming season. All I am saying is that the secondary hasn’t exactly been lighting it up. I’d like to see some interceptions for a change. Imagine a front 7 that can rush the passer and a secondary that can ballhawk. Maybe with that we can finally terrify A-A-ron.

          • But I don’t know how much of the lack of TOs, esp in the secondary, is due to Fangio’s scheme.

            I think even (former Lovie S) Cam Worell mentioned that the lack of TOs could be due to scheme.

            In the Lovie scheme, all eyes were looking at the QB, so if the pass rush hit, and the ball floated or was off, the secondary could jump on it (also why they ran a lot back for TDs, they often had a running head start).

            Fangio’s scheme seems to stress man-trail tech. It’s a lot harder to cover a receiver one-on-one, then turn around and INT it. Just is – unless your name is Dion Sanders.

            Agree about Amos. Def not a ballhawk, so now you got CBs playing in unfavorable trail tech, and one stone-handed hammer.

            The only real hope is Eddie Jackson (which is why I wanted a true single high FS), but jury is still out on him.

            I simply think Fangio’s conservative bend-don’t-break scheme doesn’t lends itself to the secondary creating many TOs barring a true lockdown CB or fierce pass rush.

          • ButtonShoes

            So the reason we don’t intercept is because Fangio doesn’t see any value? He’d rather lock off receivers to shorten the field?

          • Fangio doesn’t seem to stress TOs, esp when compared to Lovie who drilled strip/Int/run-back drills.

            Remember when Peanut would do push-ups if he dropped an INT? That’s not the Fangio program.

            Fangio seems to be ok with playing it safe and forcing Os to go on long drives, which tend to break down in the redzone.

            That’s just the way he rolls, which drives some fans (ahem, Irish) crazy.

            I don’t see him changing his method much esp if it doesn’t allow TDs.

          • CanadaBear

            If Fangio had a couple more threats to get home on blitzes I think he would be a little less conservative. At this point I’d day pass rush is their biggest need and you usually find that in the draft (or pay a fortune for a less than sure thing).

          • I believe that’s what Fangio is waiting for.
            He’s waiting for his McDonald/Aldon Smith/Justin Smith/ combo (to say nothing of Navarro/Willis), but it hasn’t materialized.

            To Fangio’s credit, he did seem to blitz more on important downs last season, but I get the sense he’s allergic to blitzes.

          • CanadaBear

            Until he gets rewarded more often for blitzing, I have no issue with him being conservative. Floyd would get there but might fly by and not hit anything. No other LB’s showed any aptitude (other than a brief flash from Houston).

          • yeah, the rush is now by far most paramount.

            If Lesbo, Vadge and now Cousins are allowed to just sit back there, Trub will have to score 40 to beat them.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            Man he had a goddam pack of wild dogs there for a hot minute in SF.

          • Irish Sweetness

            We have pass rushers. Fangio isn’t interested in using them.

          • CanadaBear

            Name the guys that are true pass rushers on the Bears.

          • leftcoastdave

            When you have a DB group who just learned each others’ names, it is best to let them play their position. With a returning intact group, I would bet we will see more blitzing with the cover team better able to adjust.

          • Irish Sweetness

            That was Marinelli and his ‘loafs’. But Lovie’s D-philosophy was bend-don’t-break too, remember, and we had a 6’4 LB dropping back and peanut in there ….

          • Yes, but Lovie himself stressed TOs. That was his mantra.
            He didn’t blitz like Fangio, but he emphasized creating TOs. I think the only stat he ever refrained was TOs=Wins. He must’ve said a million times.

            Lovie’s achilles’ heel was his inflexibility. When Smith was dicing him up for 200 yds, he didn’t change his scheme. When Brady was dicing and slicing those zones up, he didn’t adapt. When Chico tried to make the D more aggressive, he dumped Chico.

            Still, he stressed TOs consistently, and they did indeed lead to many wins.
            Give em that.

          • Irish Sweetness

            A lack of takeaways is all directly relatable to Fangio;s scheme.

            Teams don’t give you the ball so much as you have to pressure them into giving it to you by causing mistakes to be made. He just sits back and lets the O do what it wants. How the hell can anyone watch that crap and not be sickened?

          • SC Dave

            I would say the primary factor is DBs dropping the damn ball.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Neither are bad players. They’re young. Amos can hit. I like them. I mean, to the point where I’m not screaming safety in the first. We need Nelson or Edmunds way more than we need a safety.

            Yes, it would be nice to have Minkah, but he’s not going to be a Bear.

          • leftcoastdave

            A fourth rounder and a fifth rounder or did we also get Amos in the fourth?

            I think there is a “duh?” there somewhere on the cheaping out issue.

          • AlbertInTucson

            …Tony Parrish.

          • Irish Sweetness

            You miss Tim Jennings?

          • ButtonShoes

            I miss Pro-Bowler Tim Jennings.

      • AlbertInTucson

        2 of NFL Net’s guys have the Bears taking CBs Hughes or Ward at 8. Of course, 2 others have Nelson and Ridley to the Bears..

        • Irish Sweetness

          Can’t envision Pace ever drafting a CB at 8, or in the first. Don’t know why. Then again, he took a receiver ….

        • AlbertInTucson

          After today, I think it is safe to assume that Ridley is no longer on the Bears radar.

  • Accurate summary of the secondary:

    Bears re-signed RCB Prince Amukamara.

    A solid-not-spectacular starter for last year’s Bears, Amukamara is a sticky cover guy with the ability to excel in both man and zone. He wound up facing a high number of No. 1 wideouts last year
    and held up well. Amukamara’s downfall is his lack of ball skills and penchant for injuries; he’s lasted 16 games once in seven NFL seasons and has just one interception over the past three years. Nevertheless, his re-signing gives the Bears a chance to keep their underrated secondary intact with Kyle Fuller on the transition tag, slot CB Bryce Callahan tendered, and Eddie Jackson and Adrian Amos returning at safety. – Roto

    • Still contend Pace will sign another CB before all is said and done. My guess is Terrance Mitchell.

    • BerwynBomber

      Provided we retain Fuller (and even resign him) I think our CB group as well as our secondary looks above average.

      I get the whole BPA/CB argument for the first round, but in terms of PoN, I think it is pretty far down the list.

      Though if Pace is trying to build the Midwest version of the No Fly Zone …

    • evantonio

      When is the last time we had the same secondary two seasons in a row?

      • Ooph. Been a looong time.

        Maybe 2006-2007? When Daniel Manning was a rook and sophmore paired with MB, Vasher and Peanut? Maybe…off the top of my head.

        • evantonio

          Sounds like a good guess. But yes – it’s been awhile. So keeping a functioning unit together while plugging our non-functioning unit is a smart move that won’t get words, but it’s refreshing.

  • willbest

    What the fuck is Pace pulling by only putting an original round tender on Meredith. FFS pay him the extra million and be secure in knowing he isn’t going anywhere.

    • ButtonShoes

      Seriously. Why is he gambling with Meredith? Plenty of teams will be happy to throw offers at him based on this.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Maybe he’s injured badly, they’re helping him find a sucker.

    • I wonder about Pace ‘letting the market set the contract’ philo is because Stein is no longer around?

      Seems like when Stein was around, the Bears locked up everyone without gambling, and without any messy risky stuff.

      • willbest

        It would be an extra million dollars, for what could end up being the best WR on the team. Its beyond stupid. Bellamy and Callahan fine. But Meredith has top 50 WR upside.

        • I agree. Think it’s unnecessarily risky.
          Even Callahan. Supposedly other teams are sniffing around. Why let THEM set the market?

          I don’t get it, but I’m no financial wizard, simply an unfrozen caveman lawyer…

  • willbest

    I was looking at a list of RFAs and came across this list when they were talking up Cowboys David Irving and compared him to the following group where he record stats in line with them. What struck me however was the snap count for which I will label Sins of the Fox.

    Hicks – 899 snaps
    Donald – 790
    Heyward – 782
    Jackson – 756
    Atkins – 754
    Short – 701
    Irving – 338

    • Hicks had NOTHING left in the tank those last few weeks. Predictably, the QB had all day to throw.

      Reminded me of the tale end of Pepp’s career as a Bear.

      Hopefully, this new staff understands the value of a healthy rotation.

      • CanadaBear

        He was on fumes by Dec. Pepp wasn’t worn out as much as he was “saving” himself.

        • I was thinking about it right now.
          For a HB, there’s this magical barrier – I think it’s 350+ carries a season? Where once a HB hits that metric, history says he’ll never be the same HB again – that it sorta breaks the HB.

          Hope there’s no defensive metric to that cuz I’m pretty sure Hicks would’ve lapped it by a mile last season.

          • SC Dave

            Dickerson at 4, 10, and 12. Shit.

        • AlbertInTucson

          I believe Peppers also went out and lost about 30 pounds before joining the Packers.

  • BerwynBomber

    So DET loses Ngata to PHI. Wonder if they are entertaining a talk with Suh.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    McCarron has to be sitting there wondering about collusion. He had to fight to be a free agent this year, then teams sign guys like Bradford before him. It makes no sense to me.

    • I for sure inked him to the Browns who traded for him, but somehow fucked up the transaction last minute.

      I mean, McCown and Bridgewater over McCarron? Fuck, Cards just signed Glennon.

      Agree. Seems fishy.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Can a team contact Glennon before he is even cut? It’s not like he is a free agent yet. He is still under contract. I know it’s the “legal” tampering period but I thought that was just for FA to be.

    • BerwynBomber

      Jets should have signed him. I don’t get the McCown/Bridgewater signings. What is the upside?

      • willbest

        That they are drafting a QB and don’t need to pay starter money for McCarron

        • BerwynBomber

          McCarron is getting starter money?

          P.S. I wouldn’t be surprised if McCown/Bridgewater will cost as much as McCarron.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            Glennon did. All bets are off these days.

          • willbest

            Bradford did.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            Another fine example.

            I really should have tried harder to become a quarterback.

          • BerwynBomber

            Bradford has been a starter most of his career.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Bradford has been injured most of his career.

          • BerwynBomber

            Tough to be injured when you don’t play.
            (If you’re following the argument here.)

      • AlbertInTucson

        I don’t get Bradford to the Cardinals.

    • willbest

      McCarron’s victory reminds me of the guy that figured out how to make a bunch of phantom market bets that would trick hedge fund algorithms into predictable actions and then profiting from it to the tune of several millions of dollars.

      Out of all the people manipulating the markets, that was the guy our FedGov decided to make an example of.

      • SC Dave

        Of course. He was not part of the cabal.

  • Malice Halice

    So Phillip Rivers just gonna ride his career out as a charger? I was expecting him to become a viking low key. So Pace feels that Prince is a better component with Fuller than ANY of the FA’s available? Otherwise tho I can’t complain with the potential acquisitions we’re getting tomorrow. What about them LB’s tho!? Think Pace is trick off a 3rd pick for somebody? If so, I hope it’s Cam C.

    • Malice Halice

      N. Bowman to become a bear tomorrow. You heard it from me first. Obviously no proof just speculation.

      • Don’t wanna pop your bubble, but Pace doesn’t sign anyone over 30 in FA.

        I think the only exception was Sitton who filled a need and fell in his lap.

        • Malice Halice

          Keep forgetting that’s his standard! Figured the past history with Vic n the need for the position would’ve played a key role.

        • SC Dave

          That and Bowman is a shadow of his former self.

    • AlbertInTucson

      A Viking?

      Rivers had misgivings just moving from San Diego to L.A., let alone moving to Minnesota.

      • Malice Halice

        With that crazy deal they gave cousins, they’d been better off giving to Phillip.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Because Rivers is so young (37 this December) or because he takes such good care of the football (21 INTs)?

  • Was kinda hoping for him. Oh well. Gonna need an upgrade over Kwiat, that’s for sure.

    Jets agreed to terms with ILB Avery Williamson, formerly of the Titans.

    Williams just turned 26 last week and was the top free-agent inside linebacker on the market. A 59-game starter for the Titans the last four seasons since being drafted in the fifth round,Williamson had a breakout 2017, grading out as Pro Football Focus’ No. 3inside linebacker, behind only Luke Kuechly and Bobby Wagner. Williamson received elite marks for his run defense. – Roto

    • EnderWiggin

      I’d like to replace Kwiatkoski with Roquan Smith. He’d go good with Trevathan for a season or two.
      I know we need a rusher, but that dude seems Urlacherish.

      • Havent checked out Smith. Will do.

      • SC Dave

        Too short to be Urlacherish

        • EnderWiggin

          Crap. 6’1″? What the shit was that little fekker thinking?

    • Malice Halice

      Well atleast you know Tremaine Edmunds getting picked at #8.

      • Might be. I’m curious if Pace will sign an OG or ILB before the draft.

        • Joecashflow

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        • SC Dave

          I want Nelson. The guy that wants to destroy his opponent’s will to play the game.

      • Irish Sweetness

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  • catfish44

    GOOD FREE AGENCY……….BUT QUARTERBACK STILL THE KEY.
    ”Securing weapons for Trubisky is an obvious prime directive for Pace and the Bears this offseason. And that ostensibly was happening with the Burton and Robinson negotiations.

    But the weapon that determines everything is Trubisky. Period.

    The Bears had Martellus Bennett, Matt Forte, Jeffery and a healthy Zach Miller around Jay Cutler in 2015 and finished 23rd in yardage and 21st in points scored. The problem was the quarterback. You couldn’t even blame Dowell Loggains, who was still just the quarterbacks coach under coordinator Adam Gase.

    As New England has been showing for the last 15 years, and Brett Favre before that, and Aaron Rodgers the last decade, and myriad others, the end game is still the centerpiece position, not the supporting cast.”

    —————-http://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/takeaways-bears-first-strikes-free-agency-gains-not-without-hard-questions

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