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Across The Middle: Alshon’s Inflated Contract Could Prohibit Bears From Attacking Receiver in FA

| February 7th, 2018

Whether they did it knowingly or not, by giving Alshon Jeffery a huge extension during the season, the Philadelphia Eagles made their success model next to impossible to duplicate.

The Eagles gave Jeffery the kind of contract the Bears would not, especially coming off his shaky-at-best 2016. AJ will average $13 million per season for the next 4 years, with a total guarantee of roughly $27 million. The Eagles are the champs so every move looks golden but what they actually did was inflate the wide receiver market by paying a premier contract to a non-premier player.

The Bears have come under constant criticism for not bringing Jeffery back but:

  • He hasn’t had 1,000 yards or 10 touchdowns in a season since 2014.
  • This year he caught less than half of his targets for the Eagles.
  • After the Patriots switched Stephon Gilmore on to Jeffery in the Super Bowl, he became a ghost. It looked like it would be easy to point to Sunday and say the Bears should’ve paid him, but that game is exactly why Ryan Pace didn’t. What happened to Jeffery doesn’t happen to number one receivers and now Jeffery is paid like one.

And other receivers will want to cash in.

We’ve already seen this story in Green Bay with Davante Adams. Despite never topping 1,000 yards in a season — and only surpassing 500 twice — Adams got a whopping $30 million guaranteed and an average of $14.5 million per season.

What is a player like Allen Robinson going to make? Robinson is coming off of a torn ACL, but is two years removed from a 1,400-yard, 14-touchdown season and he’s just 24 years old. His agent could use the one-year deal Jeffery initially signed as evidence to why a team should offer Robinson more initially. And he’ll probably succeed.

There’s plenty of disputing Jarvis Landry’s impact — and his Bubba Franks-like 8.8 yards per catch — but there’s no question teams will see value in 112 catches and 9 touchdowns.

The rest of the market could be thrown out of whack too. If an 800-yard receiver on a passing team gets $13 million guaranteed, what do 700-yard receivers on running teams like Paul Richardson and Marqise Lee demand? And there’s Sammy Watkins too! But if Pace didn’t trust Jeffery enough to give him a big contract, it’s doubtful he’ll put faith in Watkins.

The market has a number of third-tier players like Albert Wilson and Taylor Gabriel. Those players can help, for sure, but they’re not the kinds of players a team should turn to to fix its passing game.

In his three years as the Bears GM, we’ve seen Pace set his price and stick to it when it comes to free agency. If he does that this year, it’s hard to see him coming away with any of the top guys. The Bears might be better off looking at the trade market to find their new number one receiver.

Denver could be looking to offload Demaryius Thomas so they have more money to make a run at Kirk Cousins. Thomas has taken a hit statistically the last two seasons because the Broncos haven’t had anything close to adequate quarterback play, but he’s probably still better than anybody who is available on the free agent market. He’s 30 and has a $17.5 cap hit in 2019, but he could buy the Bears a year to figure out what Cam Meredith and Kevin White are.

With Thomas, Meredith and White, the Bears could bring back Dontrelle Inman and sign Albert Wilson to compete with a draft pick and they’d be significantly better than they were last year as long as they don’t lose their top three receivers to injury again.

While fans seem to be against taking a receiver in the first round, it’s something the Bears will surely consider. Calvin Ridley is the consensus top receiver and Pace has shown in the past he’s willing to take older players in the draft. While not top-heavy, the draft is considered to be deep at receiver, so it would be surprising if the Bears didn’t take one with one of their first three picks.

The Eagles improved drastically because they were aggressive in putting weapons around their young quarterback (and that quarterback was aggressive in improving his mechanics).  The Bears are going to be aggressive, but it’ll be more difficult because a former Bear’s contract means it is no longer a buyer’s market.

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  • SC Dave

    Jeffery shows up, guarantees a SB win, and the Eagles get their first SB title.

    The Eagles obviously see enough in him to pay him, which is really all that matters.

    I have a memory of (I think) Red Barber and Bob Feller on the radio. I paraphrase, of course.

    Red: “Bob, is Pete Rose, is any player, worth a million dollars a year?”
    Bob: “Pete Rose is worth whatever he can get.”

    By definition, Alshon Jeffery is worth what he got.

    • DaBearsBlog

      Then so is Mike Glennon.

      • SC Dave

        Exactly, Jeff. By definition, we are all worth exactly what we get.

        In Glennon’s case, he will get much less in 2018 than 2017.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          He played his way from $18M to $2M in just four games. THAT, is impressive. That’s a hell of a correction.

      • BenderMcLugh

        absolutely. when did this stop being a business?

        • KentuckyBearsFan

          I thought this was a religion. Just not everybody tithes.

  • BenderMcLugh

    Boooooooooooo. – me when Alshon caught anything this year

  • BenderMcLugh

    good points here, AD. I sincerely hope it doesn’t prove correct.

  • Big Mike

    The challenge for GMs is evolutionary. With only 3-4 ELITE QBs a half dozen very good ones, how do you build a team to compete without one of those guys? I give you the RPO offense. You say QB friendly, I say designed out of necessity.

    So now the challenge is how do you take a collection of #2 and #3 WRs and compete. 1) You draft your WR talent. 2) You spread the ball around on offense 3) You pound the rock.

    • leftcoastdave

      Bingo. Bring Albert Wilson in from KC. Spend money on the D and a retooling of the O line including cutting Simms and looking to pick up another target TE.

      • Big Mike

        Maybe draft Ridley? If it’s between Nelson and Ridley that’s a very, very tough call for me. Clearly it depends on FA. Maybe Pace has another Cody Whitehair up his sleeve in the 2nd. But I think you have to go with Ridley, because of the price tag for WRs. This is not a “cheapskate” Bears things, but you don’t want to spend inefficiently (top dollar on 2nd tier talent).

        • CanadaBear

          I’d go with the guard in a heartbeat.

          • Big Mike

            So would I, normally. The problem is the price of top WR talent. There’s even room to consider the top CB. I forget his name.

          • CanadaBear

            I keep seeing Dennard Ward mocked to the Beloved.

          • Big Mike

            The edge rusher. I don’t buy that at all. Some mocks don’t even have him in the first round. Maybe his stock goes up at the combine.

          • CanadaBear

            Sorry Denzel Ward. A CB from OSU.

          • Big Mike

            I could get behind that. But I think you can find good CBs in FA.

          • BenderMcLugh

            there seem to be many good WRs coming out of this draft, why spend the 1st pick on one if the OL stud is there?

          • Big Mike

            I don’t disagree. I don’t know much about this draft outside of the OL prospects and the top 10 -15 guys. My thinking was simply get the best WR you can in the draft, upgrade without overpaying for mid level guys in FA. Believe me, passing on Nelson could be a huge mistake. But so could hanging Trubisky out to dry with a bunch of cast offs and whatever is left at WR in the 2nd round. But I don’t know anything about the best WRs likely to available in the 2nd rd.

            Lots of time to figure that out.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Or that big 6’7 tackle …

        • leftcoastdave

          I like the multiple target approach over spending up for a FA at WR. Also, don’t forget Harry Hiestand and Equanimous St. Brown. Dude looks to be NFL durable with size and speed.
          Harry should also be able to do wonders with our current under performing linemen and tight ends as well as be able to find one or another under performing prospect in FA, using the other top pick on a CB looking to draft what is becoming most costly in FA.

          • CanadaBear

            How were the Bears OL men under performing? I thought they played well when healthy. If HH can make them healthier, I’m all for it.

          • leftcoastdave

            Grassu, Massie, Simms, Compton, Sowell? None set the world on fire with their performance. Can coaching change that? We shall see or we may see some of them gone.

          • CanadaBear

            I like the hire a lot just thought the OL played as well as could be expected for being so beat up.

          • Grassu sucks. I don’t think his old coach can salvage him.

            Ppl forget about Kush though. He’s better than Compton or Sowell, maybe even better than an always hurt Long.

          • Big Mike

            Hiestand is a coach who will improve the read and reaction skills of our OL. Starting with the first meeting without pads. Identify defensive schemes, acknowledging assignments, how to execute assignments, along with training techniques to improve muscle memory, fast twitch and core strength. The improvement of each player WILL be noticeable. You still wonder about drafting a WR. My forecast is 2 OL in the draft. 2nd and 4th or 5th rd. 1 in FA. Keep an eye on Sam Mustipher. He was the ND Center last year. The two other guys OG Nelson and the OT McGlinchey get all the press. The Mustipher quietly was the leader of the group. His game against NC state who had given up only 90 yards rushing per game (ND put over 300yd rushing on them) is a clinic. He’s the 4th round pick I would not be surprised to see the Bears take.

          • DaCoaches Mustache

            We should draft Equanimous for his name alone. That is a great name. Up there with Barkavious Mingo as one of the best names of all time.

          • DaCoaches Mustache

            seriously what the fuck was this guys mom thinking? Equanimous? Jesus H.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Like Kevin Hart said: “That’s just a black woman hearing something and going “That’s my baby’s name!”

            Ice-Cube’s first name is “O’Shea”.

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            His full name is “Equanimeous Tristan Imhotep J. St. Brown.”

            Seems to suggest that the mother and/or father was a “reader.”

            I think the J. is for the father’s name, John Brown…a former two-time Mr. Universe bodybuilder.

            https://www.si.com/college-football/2017/09/06/equanimeous-osiris-amonra-st-brown-brothers-family

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Maybe it is just a bad perception on my part, but WRs seem to take forever to make an impact, even 1st round talent, and the bust percentage of 1st round WR seems high. Even the consensus top WRs seem to be a big gamble. Look at Amari Cooper the guy was touted as the best WR coming out in a long time and the dude drops a shit ton of passes. I would rather grab someone in the 1st round that is going to make an immediate impact, like Oline or a pass rusher.

          • Carlos Pendleton

            You are correct sir!!!!

          • Big Mike

            That’s from watching the Bears history, along with the lions who took a WR for like 4 years in a row in the first round. My feeling is the same. 1st rd WR picks have a more volatile set of outcomes. Data should do an analysis of success by position group for 1st round picks grouped by 1-10/10-20/ 20-32. It also seems to be that the big uglies drafted early are more likely to succeed. But it’s purely subjective.

            I don’t disagree with what you are saying. But that makes the position a lot like QB. You’ve got a better shot of success at other positions, but sooner or later you need to get one in the draft. So where does our #1 wr come from? Or are you buying into my proposition is that you build the team without having a true #1.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Yep, I don’t think a team needs a true #1 WR. It is a team sport, just get guys out there that can get open and catch.

          • Big Mike

            Only if you have 3-4 quality receivers, a run game and a mobile QB. A true #1 can hide a bunch of defects. In a similar but lesser regard than an elite QB

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Decent play calling can hide a lot more than a true #1 or an elite QB.

          • Big Mike

            It cannot. A an elite QB is the greatest asset an organization can have. Although having just said that, I don’t think you can have an elite QB without decent play calling. But exceptional play calling will not make up for a bad QB. I think a true #1 is a complimentary piece that puts an offense over the top.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I guess that is why TO, Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson retired with rings, or why current #1 like Antonio Brown, Julio Jones, AJ Green, OBJ all have numerous rings. OOOPS, Nope. But a bunch of short white guys, like Welker and Amendola, that are schemed open have multiples.

            IMO, true #1s are used as crutches in offenses. They retard the growth of QBs, they limit the imagination of OCs, and more often than not they are DIVA distractions.

          • Big Mike

            Welker, Amendola. Really. Two guys that played with NE. I said a true #1 is a complimentary piece that puts offenses over the top. It’s not the only way to get it done. I also said an elite QB trumps everything. the GOAT trumps everything. Can’t recreate that.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Welker got a ring in Denver with noodle arm Manning. And I don’t know if you watch NE, but the short white guys seem to be open all the time no one was with in 5 yards of him, it is not because they are great, and it is not because Brady is elite, it is because they are schemed open, just like when JimmyG or Cassel was the QB.

            FYI, this in no way against Brady, just saying he is in a very QB friendly system where you do not need elite WRs because schemes get them open. NE utilizes things like picks, that as a Bears fan we only dream about. When was the last time in the last decade we had a play call that utilized a pick.

          • Teams don’t necessarily need Julio Jones, but they DO need a baseline of talent.

            Even Rodgers couldn’t have made guys like Deonte Thompson, Bellamy and Wright into Aghlor or Alshon.

            And if we look into playoff teams, they do have a defacto #1WR

            Pit: Brown
            Pats – Gronk. Or Cooks
            KC. Hill (Kelce)
            NO. Thomas
            Min. Thielan/Diggs
            Ten. Corey Davis
            Philly. Alshon/Aghlor (even Ertz)
            JAX. Not really, but they still have Hurns, Allen Robinson and Dede Westbrook

            Bears have no WRs (or TEs) at that level.

            We’re left with cross-your-finger players like Sasheen HOPEFULLY becoming Kelce/Ertz/Gronk or Cam and White HOPEFULLY taking the next step, but as of right now, Bears roster no receiver talent at those levels.

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            Plus with the way the league is going, all we’ll need in a few years is 4 guys who can trip over their own feet at the right time to draw a flag.

            Oh my god…we might already have the right guys!

            We just need a hire a soccer coach as offensive coordinator.

        • Carlos Pendleton

          Mike, it has been stated by many that Ridlely is not worth the #8 pick, Nelson is and with over 90 million after cuts the Bears can afford to pay for any wr, anyway it may take Ridlely two years to be good, we need vets to help Tru, the Rams nor Eagles went with rookies, you pay for what you get out here!!!

          • Big Mike

            I’m not a big believer in projected market value for a draft slot. The “market” does not have liquidity. It’s the Bears first pick. Whether it’s 8 or 18. You need to look at your own roster, FA and your draft board. If you need a potential #1 WR and you don’t think you can get one in FA without spending $14 million a year for 4 years with a $25m guarantee, and you don’t think there’s a guy that will be there at 2, you take the best WR on the board with your first pick. I don’t know if they should take Ridley or not, but the decision is a lot more complex than saying he’s not the one of the best 8 players according to experts. So maybe he’s a top 15 pick. If you have a top 15 pick grade on a guy and you can’t fill that need another way you should probably take him. Now of course this needs to be weighed against other needs. Maybe the Bears board has several other guys graded higher that are there. Than its BPA vs Biggest Impact. Let’s say Nelson grades out higher than Ridley. Who do they take, if they are both there?

            Who knows is the answer, but not because Ridley is “overvalued” for that pick. By that theory there are only 8 players the Bears could draft.

  • BearDown100393

    Sometimes it is not the investment of the present player but the expense of finding another replacement.

    Without Alshon, the Eagles very well (because who really knows for certain?) may not win the Super Bowl.

    • Haters are gonna say Alshon got “shut down” by Gilmore (another FA Pace failed to sign), but maybe the Eagles decided to use Alshon as a decoy to hit Ertz and Aghlor who also had big games esp in the 2nd half.

      Considering they put up 41 points, I would say the strategy worked, and Philly forced the (already thin) secondary to use their best CB on a WR decoy.

      One of the ways Pederson out coached Bill (Bill benching Butler didn’t help)

      • BearDown100393

        As AD more or less stated, the Eagles won the Super Bowl so any criticism (from within Philly) is moot regarding his contract.

        • Yeah, from a pure business perspective, I bet Philly Merchandise will def make up for whatever they paid Alshon.

          • BearDown100393

            His TD poster will be in every basement cave and bar in Philly.

  • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

    I agree with this post in general terms. But there are plenty of games where a #1 gets taken away by the opponent’s best defender. He got going early, scored a touchdown, and the defense had to adjust. That allowed the rest of the offense to find more success. Sometimes, that’s how it goes when you’re considered the 1. It worked for the Eagles. And I don’t see his contract hurting them. That’s the beauty of being a balanced team with a really good QB, (ACL notwithstanding), on his rookie deal.

  • I have some stuff coming up looking at the WR market. It’s possible that Jeffery and Adams throw this market out of whack. I certainly expect Landry to be way overpaid, and Robinson is getting tagged in JAX.

    I’m curious to see what happens with guys like Lee and Richardson. There are good comps for both of them from FA in the last few years that should set their market, IMO. Maybe it gets thrown out of whack.

    FWIW, my top realistic target is Lee, and I’d happily pay him $9-10M a year.

    • Richardson is interesting. He seems explosive, though he’s another slot type stature.

      What do you think it will take to get Josh Gordon? a 3rd?

      • He has zero trade value because he’s one failed drug test away from a lifetime ban. I will be furious if space trades for him.

  • 0034

    Great article & good perception for the WR market. If it’s going to cost more to get better WR, then It’s the cost of business in the NFL and its the cost that teams like the Bears have to pay to get talent b/c they didn’t draft well in the past. In addition, how much did the Bears pay Wheaton? They should have spent more and not settled for him I guess the Bears tried to get other WRs but they didn’t want to play for Chicago.

    I saw in Spotrac that Marqise Lee is expected to get something like 7.5M. Maybe now that amount more based upon Alshon “payday.” Spotrac has 6.5M for Paul Richardson. I like Lee over Richardson. The Bears, however, should try to get them both. If it’s 20M for the 2 of them, then that’s the cost of doing business or the price one pays for making bad draft & FA decisions in the past. Please, please get at least M. Lee or someone like him on the Bears roster. Enough is enough. It’s time to make the Bears great

    • SC Dave

      Good post.

      I like the reference at the end to have Pace do what he said he wanted to do.

    • I want to say it’s time for Pace stop being a cheap ass in FA, but the Bears spent the most in FA last season!

      I have NO trust in Pace when it comes to FA.

      He’s a one hit wonder with Hicks. Even Right Said Fred got one right.

  • BearDown100393

    Jim Irsay finally gets his due.

  • CanadaBear

    Hmmmm. Jeffery is downgraded for only having 9 TD’s (less than 10) but Landry is lauded for having 9 TD’s. Trying a little too hard to make a point.

    • BenderMcLugh

      Alshon didn’t catch as many targets as he normally would, that is still a good point though

      • CanadaBear

        I’ve long since moved on from Alshon. Still like the guy and respect his choice to move on from the Beloved.

        • BenderMcLugh

          agreed

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Alshon who?

          • willbest

            WR in the draft named Alshon. Could be the next Braverman from what I have read.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            The next Braverman, DAMN!!! We should pull a Ditka and trade our entire draft away to move up and get him.

        • Given the choice between another yr of Fox and Glennon, yeah, hard to blame him.

    • willbest

      And Jeffery came into a situation where the sophmore QB had a great relationship with Ertz. The unusual thing about Jeffery this year was his abnormally low catch % relative to when other QB’s were throwing to him. If that reverts back to his 58% average he will be a 1k receiver.

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    • BearDown100393

      What were his stats with Wentz and later Foles?

    • Carlos Pendleton

      No they play different positions of wr, Landry’s 9 is actually great for a slot and not so much for a wr position but both are good!!!

  • Scharfinator
    • CanadaBear

      Gotta love that! He owned that dope over playing indoors and Justin Timberlake.

    • SC Dave

      hahaha… I like Alshon more than ever. I suppose Goddell might fine him though. He must have said “shit” about four times.

  • Bear Instincts

    If part of the reason McDouchBag turned down the Colts is because of Lucks shoulder being worse than anyone thought could it could force them to go for a QB in this draft?

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

      Absolutely. Wouldn’t you?

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Brissett seemed to make pretty good progress throughout the season from what I saw, but I did not see much of him play.

    • I would cover my bets if I were them.

      Worst case scenario. They have two in-demand QBs they can always get a 1st/2nd in return down the line a la Jimmy G/Bradford (Foles?)

  • CanadaBear

    Can’t feel sorry for the Colts (sneaking out of Baltimore, suck for Luck, insane owner) but McDaniels really screwed them. Gotta say my opinion of McDaniels just went down some and I’ve never been much of a fan.

    • BearDown100393

      The Jets understand.

    • BenderMcLugh

      did he really want DaBears job that much over the others? It’s kinda looking like it.

      • BearDown100393

        The apprentice always kills the master.

        It is the SIth way.

      • willbest

        What makes you think he wouldn’t have done that to us?

        • BenderMcLugh

          true…..but we are soooo much prettier

      • CanadaBear

        Not sure. He might have stiffed the Bears but at least it wouldn’t have been after the horse had left the barn.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Yep pretty bad. If he had reservations he should have let them know over the last couple weeks, and he should not have started to put a staff together. If shit was not put in motion, it would not have been bad for him to back out, but he impacted lives of other coaches who quit their jobs to join him in Indy.

      • Carlos Pendleton

        Have you ever thought that the Intel on Luck might have come later and Kraft stepped in at the last moment to not only offer more money but the promise to replace Belichick later, who wouldn’t take that, it’s the American way!!!!

      • McD did what a lot of dudes do.

        He tells the nice but boring chick “yeah, the date is still on”
        But when the hot kinky chick texts “Let’s go out” he tells the nice one “Sorry. Can’t make it tonight!”

    • willbest

      I honestly don’t know how he gets a Head coaching job in this league if it isn’t for Kraft. If I were him I would need serious coin to do what he did.

      • CanadaBear

        I’m sure he’s making at least 6 figures so he’s not hurting. Totally agree about his job prospects going down after that stunt.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Have to think he was dubbed Bill’s successor-in-waiting, whenever it comes to that.

          • SC Dave

            When Brady decides he wants Belichick fired.

          • Scharfinator

            I don’t think Brady lasts longer. But who knows…

          • BearDown100393

            Some of those pass attempts from Brady were looking awfully Manning-ish wobbily.

          • willbest

            Brady knows hoodie’s stat guy is what elevates Brady into GOAT consideration. He isn’t about to send Belichick away. He sent G away because he was worried that Hoodie might turn G into the next Brady thereby turning him into a system QB.

            And Kraft might love Brady like a son, but he is a businessman and he isn’t about to side with a QB with a couple seasons left over a coach that could go another decade.

          • BearDown100393

            A smarter businessman would have kept Garoppolo. Brady is finished and Belichick knows it. It will be a beautiful thing to witness the fall of the Patriots.

      • Never underestimate the hypocrisy of the NFL.

        If Saban wanted, he could probably return to the NFL, and what he did was worse.

      • BearDown100393

        Robert Kraft is 76 years old. McDaniels better lock up that coaching job for life iron clad rather soon.

    • BerwynBomber

      Let the “Is Belichick Retiring?” debate commence.

    • Didn’t Jeff report that the HC job came down to McD and Nagy?

      Doesn’t exactly inspire confidence in Pace’s judgement.

      • BearDown100393

        Meaning one of the Adams confided something to Jeff who in return blogged about it as “news”.

      • BearDown100393

        This was the mental picture of Pace interviewing McDaniels and then considering him afterward for the HC job:

        Vincent Ah, so by that rationale, if a pig had a better personality, he would cease to be a filthy animal. Is that true?

        Jules Well, we’d have to be talkin’ about one charming
        mother****ing pig. I mean, he’d have to be ten times more charming than
        that Arnold on Green Acres, you know what I’m saying?

        McDaniels must be one charming pig in the interview room. But in reality, just a filthy animal.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Or McD interviewed so well that he almost fooled 2 teams to try and sign him as a coach.

        • willbest

          Glad Pace decided the best ability was availability on that one. Who would we even get? Cadwell?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I hear Fisher is available and wants to coach.

      • CanadaBear

        You’re going crazy about this crap. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t.

  • BearDown100393

    “I had to turn this monstrosity off. I was starting to hate the ’85 Bears. This is the worst film of the year, bar none.”

    What?

  • Carlos Pendleton

    People act like you must have a number one wr, Alshon is not a number one, so how about getting at least two number two’s and a D has to pick their poison, the Bears should have at least 90 million after cuts, so they can pay for two wr’s and have plenty left over!!!

    • willbest

      Ertz is a #1 though. And Jeffery did his job. After he torched some wannabes for 70 yards and a TD, Hoodie traded Jeffery for Gilmore, and with the gift benching to Malcom Butler, every other CB became horribly mismatched.

      • SC Dave

        I agree with this.

        Makes me realize we really had luxury with BM, AJ, MB, and MF.

        Too bad the defense was turrible and OC was unstable.

        That was more than good enough a line-up for Cutler to be effective.

  • BerwynBomber

    Such inflated contracts happen with every position in the league.

    Two of the top three safeties in the league in terms of pay are Ty Matthieu and Reshad Jones. Desmond Trufant is the fourth highest paid CB in the league. Kirk Cousins will likely be the highest paid QB (or way up there).

    Plus, I’d argue that Alshon’s WR contract is FAR from the biggest eyesore of a WR contract.

  • CanadaBear

    Not sure if any of you guys like Eric Clapton but there will be a documentary about him on Showtime Saturday night.

    http://www.sho.com/titles/3452596/eric-clapton-life-in-12-bars

    • BearDown100393

      Clapton recently revealed he is going deaf.

  • Technically, Wheaton is more expensive than Alshon on a per catch basis.

    #Paced

  • “AJ will average $13 million per season for the next 4 years, with a total guarantee of roughly $27 million.” – andy

    And the rumor is Pace offered him about 12M per season, which I thought Alshon was worth. Alshon also didn’t get extended until later in the season, so either he thought he could squeeze out more $, or he simply didn’t want to be on the Bears (or both).

    It was reported he wanted Julio Jones $, which was ridicules.

    But $12-13M/yr. That’s more than reasonable for Alshon.

    If you don’t sign Glennon and Simms, that pretty much pays for 2 of his years, right?

    A few more inevitable cuts, and it more than makes up for it in the cap (as if we’re hurting)

    Pace fucked up not being able to extend Alshon. End of story.

    Either.

    A. He created a team, including Fox, which lost so much that Alshon like every other premiere FA didn’t want to be with a loser.

    B. Alshon wanted to stay but Pace couldn’t close the deal (wouldn’t be the 1st FA he couldn’t sign)

    C. Pace grossly underestimated Alshon’s talent and incorrectly thought a car of clowns like Wheaton, Wright, Bellamy, Cruz could make up for his production (later realizing his gross error, he signed Inman trying to make up for it)

    Alshon got the last laugh.

    Meanwhile, Bears lost to the 9ers who only kicked FGs.

    • BearDown100393

      Pace tends to barth on signings. Hopefully the barthing phase of his tenure is over.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Are you still whining about Jefferies? He did not want to be here. He’s gone move, so move on.

      • SC Dave

        The thread was about WRs, and Jeffery in particular.

        The “whining”, if any of this is to be characterized that way*, would be AD whining about the receiver market being pushed up where we have to pay more money for an inferior receiver than we would have be extending Alshon.

        That said, he is gone, and ain’t coming back.

        * well, except maybe your whining about whining 😛

        • Yeah, I guess a fan can’t “whine” about finally drafting a good WR, homegrowing him, then failing to extend him so that our new franchise QB has to throw to Daniel Brown.

      • WHY did Alshon not want to be here though?

        No one has answered that yet, and maybe no one wants to.

        • BearDown100393

          He insisted he was going to win a Super Bowl this season.

          So he went to a team that did.

          • I remember some grumbling he wanted to go to a warm weather team, or back to the south…yeah, cuz Philly is warm and southern…

          • BearDown100393

            lol yeah Philly is beautiful in February.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          Perhaps it’s because he had no idea what the long term Coach/QB situation was going to be.

          • The QB was rather clear. A team doesn’t trade up to #2 for a QB that’s not their future.

            So could be he simply didn’t think Trub was any good.

            The coaching situation was murkier, but I could easily envision Alshon looking at Fox and wanting out.

            Then again, by Pace’s account, he was Ok with the Fox hire, and should’ve fired him last season, so Fox still being there is also on Pace.

            It could’ve just been $ motivated. Alshon could’ve gambled on himself to make Julio $ but once he concluded the Eagles nor anyone else was gonna fork that out, he settled for $13M/yr.

            However, he’s not the only top tier FA who spurned the Bears.

            Hopefully Pace takes advantage of the new car smell and signs impact FAs, but I’ll believe it when I see it.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

            Wasn’t AJ an Eagle before the draft?

          • Think you’re right, in which case, he didn’t like the uncertainty of FAs like Glennon.

          • CanadaBear

            The QB situation was not clear at all. Most of the guys on here were blindsided by Pace taking a QB. You’re just making shit up at this point.

        • SC Dave

          It seems simple to me. The team sucked, and he didn’t perceive any real change coming.

          So he went for change, and that turned out to be a ring instead of another last place season in the NFCN.

        • Irish Sweetness

          1. Cold?
          2. Pace?
          3. Didn’t like his QBs?
          4. And personally, I don’t give a fuck. You don’t want to play with the GSH on your sleeve …. there’s the door. And honestly, AJ would have been wasted money this year for all we would have used him.

    • BuddhaJoe

      If he’d just let him walk that’d be one thing but by all accounts he was offered more than he’s shown to be worth. My guess is he didn’t like the uncertainty surrounding the qb and Fox.

    • BerwynBomber

      That SF loss is, in retrospect, not as bad as it seemed. In fact, the D did yeoman work to keep G out of the EZ.

      The Brett Hundley game is another matter …

  • Malice Halice

    We’re talking about a guy who got ridiculed in the 2nd half of the SB. I’m glad he got a ring but let’s keep it real, AJ is mediocre n that was proven last Sunday. If I was Nelson Algolor I’d be PISSED cuz he was WAY more of a factor the entire season n SB than AJ. AJ was ONLY productive when Brandon was here as the WR1. We can easily do better than AJ cuz he’s nothing but a “jumpball “ wideout but he’s nowhere near Moss catchability at all! I have no problem with pace signing Landry or Watkins to a deal at 14 mil a year. AJ neva has nor will be valued at and now the whole wide world know y we ain’t keep. I don’t blame pace for that. If I knew how bad our WR CORP was this year b4 the season started knowing how shitty AJ was this year, I could swallow that pill easily with some Grainbelt

    • willbest

      Hoodie had to adjust his game plan to account for Jeffery. He had Gilmore shadow him, thereby making the Pats D more predictable. It didn’t matter that Jeffery disappeared in the second half. He elevated the rest of his team without having to touch the ball.

      Don’t get me wrong. He isn’t Julio. Julio would have had 3 more catches for another 70 yards and a 2nd TD if he were in the game instead of Jeffery. But he did what Top 20 WRs are supposed to do which is create headaches for opposing DCs

    • When a Bears WR makes this type of catch, then we can talk.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I’ll see you AJ and raise you Brandon.

    • leftcoastdave

      Where can I get me a case of pony GBPs? Two gulp wonders.

  • BuddhaJoe

    Don’t want a WR or G with the #8. Draft the best pass rusher available, keep Sitton and Kush, and back up the money truck for Jarvis Landry. I think he can be a legit one considering what he did while catching passes from Tannehill and Smokin Jay. Look at Detroit and Marvin Jones.

    • willbest

      A WR with #8 is fine, but he better be a game changer. Otherwise I would rather just have an above average pass rusher at #8

      • BuddhaJoe

        If there was decent chance he could be Julio or AJ Green I’d be fine with it. But the best guy is supposedly Ridley and I haven’t seen anybody saying he’s that kind of guy.

        • leftcoastdave

          OL and CB most first year impact with the CB carrying the higher price tag in FA.
          Trade down, with any luck.

        • BerwynBomber

          Really? So if you got a guy like Golden Tate at #8 you wouldn’t want him?

          I get the whole “we want Megatron” vibe but if you land a seven or eight year solid starting WR at that draft slot all is not lost.

          • BuddhaJoe

            I guess maybe if that’s the best on the board? But even though WR is their biggest need I don’t want them reaching if there’s a pass rusher available that’s better at his position than the beat available WR.

          • BerwynBomber

            Well so far, Pace strikes me more as BPA than PoN guy, so I don’t think he’ll reach for a WR at #8.

          • SC Dave

            I agree with that. If you can get a two contract starter in the middle echelon of the league at #8, it’s hard to call it a wasted pick.

          • Irish Sweetness

            That’s the problem with WRs. Finding the 7 year starter. HArd thing to do – look at college receivers and see who’ll figure things out. You would have thought drafting one of the top 2 receivers like we did would bail you out.

            Then again, maybe Kevin gets it together.

        • That’s the thing, this class doesn’t have an alpha like Julio or AJ Green.

          Ridley is projected to be Amari Cooper at best (though Cooper is 6’1 210, not 6’1 190).

          Ridley’s ceiling is Cooper. His floor is Tavyon Austin.

          Is that worth risking at #8?

          hmmmm

          • Irish Sweetness

            Wasn’t Kevin White projected to be Amari Cooper? Same ballpark?

          • Nah, if you remember, White was actually projected to be more like Julio who was also a combine freak.

            NFL.com comp…

            http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/kevin-white?id=2552422

            Draft Projection Round 1 (top 10)

            NFL Comparison DeAndre Hopkins

            Bottom Line He’s not just a product of West Virginia’s
            system — he’s talented. White showed off 23 reps on the bench press and
            a blazing 4.35 40 at the combine, proving he has the top-end speed to
            go with the size and strength. White came into West Virginia with very
            limited confidence, according to team insiders, but when he left, he had
            realized his rare talent. White lacks the polish of Amari Cooper, but
            some teams already believe he has the best upside of any wide receiver
            in this draft.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Not saying “Take Ridley” but, his QB at ’Bama, Jalen Hurts’, strength was NOT as a passer.

      • BerwynBomber

        At this point I’d be okay with a top half of the league #2 who provides 7-8 years of solid production. Not the ideal but such a pick would still be considered competent.

        It’s kinda like Bisky. One hopes he turns into Brady or Brees, but if he turns into Smith or Cousins that’s okay too.

      • SC Dave

        A Kevin White style game changer? We have WR PTSD here.

    • ButtonShoes

      Hell yes you draft a pass rusher. Chubb. Chubb. CHUBB. Say it with me, everyone: CHUBB!

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Chubb will most likely be off the board by then.

        • ButtonShoes

          I want the Bears to move up to get him, then. GET. HIM. We missed out on Donald. We missed out on Leonard Williams. We missed out on Vic Beasley. No more missing on good players: GET CHUBB.

        • If we draft him, you have to rename your handle “Modestly’ Huge Bears Chubb

  • willbest

    The NFL probably should implement a McDanniels rule and allow non-head coaches to sign future contracts to teams that have been eliminated from the playoffs.

    • BearDown100393

      How about stop distracting playoff teams with job interviews until after the Super Bowl and avoid the issue entirely? And no, I do not buy the urgency to hire immediately. The off season is long enough and the playing field for new hires would be even across the board.

      • willbest

        Sure just get the East-West and Senior bowl and all that other stuff pushed back a month. I mean why would you want the coaches input on any of that. Are you also pushing back the combine, FA period and the draft a month?

        And what about front office guys. Can I hire my GM while teams are in the playoffs or are they off limits too?

        And what the fuck do you think is going to happen if we did as you suggested? I am sure everybody would abide by the rules and nobody would talk to anybody until the 2nd week in Feb.

        Also consider that the other places these coaches get jobs is in college. If you force people to wait until mid Fed to find out if they have a pro job they might just go take the college one instead.

        • BearDown100393

          Too bad

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        I don’t mind the interviews, but maybe Ballard should have interviewed more guys incase this scenario occurred.

        • Not defending the Colts, but what McDouche did is unprecedented.

          At least, I don’t recall anyone else doing it.

          • BerwynBomber

            Who was the guy that stiffed us before we resorted to Jauron?

          • Shoot. I can’t remember. Evan brought it up, but that wasn’t post SB, was it?

          • BerwynBomber

            Ah, post-SB. Wasn’t thinking of that qualification.

          • Yeah, I think other coaches have backed out, but not in Feb.

            At least, I can’t remember that late.

            Heck, I think Jeff reported that McD turned down the Bears.

            Maybe in retrospect, he did it out of respect for our franchise if he had reservations about leaving the Pats.

            Stiffing Irsay and the Colts is one thing, but doing it to the Bears, whoah, that would’ve been a shitstorm for him.

          • SC Dave

            ha ha ha.

            Bears fans are so funny about the alleged respect for the franchise. Chicago lost that decades ago by winning next to nothing in the 52 years the Super Bowl has been played.

            Hell, the Bears have been nobodies for 70 damn years. Two stinking championships since 1946.

            Almost as bad as the fucking baseball teams in Chicago.

          • I think the fans have lost respect, no doubt.

            But among NFL circles, I still think the Bears carries a certain cache in spite of Sweaty Teddy and the McCaskeys.

            Only a handful of teams have that.

            Giants, Packers and Steelers are the only other ones who I think are respected franchise due to history.

            Maybe the Cowboys and Raiders once upon a time, but their owners (Al Davis and Jerrah) sorta made them wildcards.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            McGinnis

          • AlbertInTucson

            He didn’t stiff the Bears, the Bears dropped that ball.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Belicheat took the Jets HC job and resigned after 1 Day to take the Patriots job.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Imagine if The Bears has hired MCDaniel and he then pulled this stunt?

    • BerwynBomber

      No excuse for McDaniel, but occasionally sports provides these “signed the dotted line” moments.

      I remember about ten years ago when Carlos Boozer had given his pledge (and a purported handshake) to re-sign with CLE and then at the last second signed with, I believe, Utah. CLE and its fans were completely blindsided and rightfully furious. (Happened a few years before the Bulls themselves signed Boozer.)

      The picture of a smiling Pace or Nagy signing a contract is released for 99% PR purposes but in reality no deal is a deal until that act happens. And even then …

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  • Nathan Frigerio

    Is Ridley another A.J. Green, a Julio Jones? If so, take him. If not, Nelson, a guy that will be an All Pro.

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