• Juan Stone

    1st round pick was awesome. Hee hee

  • Joecashflow

    The Chicago Bears select……Jay Cutler! Whoa, nightmare!

  • Doc Nitty

    When things go right on day one, I fear a trade-down on day two.

    So honestly, I didn’t blink an eye over the bears last year (call it a fan sabbatical) and though I’m sure you’ve been dissecting this team and it’s needs for months, somebody please enlighten a brother…

    Biggest position of need is what? I’m guessing WR
    Most talented player available is who?
    Most talented player intersected with our main positions of need is who?

    • BenderMcLugh

      Edge rusher & Sitton replacement are biggest needs at the moment imo

      • willbest

        Massie only has 1 year left. He is only 28 but he is only about average. Long is falling apart faster than doctors can stitch him together. Really we have 3 open spots on that line

        • John F

          Then why are you arguing to use the 2nd round pick rather than trade down?

          • willbest

            Because a Jag and a Stud are a lot better for your team than two average guys.

          • John F

            It depends on how many guys you need.

            The feeling I get around here is most people believe the Bears are a couple of guys away from contending (or at least being competitive). I don’t see that at all. I think they need to fill/upgrade at least a third of their starters just to have a chance every week.

          • willbest

            Rodgers, Brees, and Brady make everybody on those O’s look better. Its not as pronounced at other positions, but you saw it in Chicago too. Urlacher made everybody around him look better.

            So its not that I think we are a couple guys away. Its that I think we are only 1 o-line stud, and 1 stud pass rusher away from competing. So what gives us the best chance at that?

          • John F

            If you are right, then use the second round pick.

            If I am right, you trade down for more picks.

          • Irish Sweetness

            This. Pace has failed to stock the roster. Failed.

          • willbest

            Also, the reason players fall into round 3 and below is because they are presumed to not be ready to play day 1. So that doesn’t help your team any more than a competent vet FA

          • Irish Sweetness

            Is our WR playing on day one?
            Is. He. fuck.

    • willbest

      Pace seems to do a pretty good job trading down though. Granted the picks he got from trading down in 2016 were a bust, but Whitehair was still a solid get for that round. And last year he seems to have hit on Shaheen and picked up Cohen

      • Robert Gollner

        Bullard is not a bust, not sure what you expect from the third round. Kwiatkowski Jordan Howard??? Busts??

        • willbest

          He did not acquire bullard through trading down. He ultimately used the picks he acquired by trading back in the 2nd to pick up Nick Kwiat and Deon Bush. Nick just got demoted, and Bush probably won’t be on the team.

          The other 4th round pick was same games with the pats and trading Allen/Bostic to pick up DHC. He will also be fighting to make the team.

        • SC Dave

          I would not call Kwiat a bust, and most would not. Howard, on the other hand, was clearly a GIANT steal in the draft.

          • willbest

            But we used the 5th round pick we already had on him. My point was the extra picks in 2016 didn’t do Pace a whole lot of good.

          • SC Dave

            Fair enough. I was just saying that if Kwiat can stick and be solid depth while contributing on specials, he’s miles from a bust.

          • Depends on your definition of bust.

            Was Kwiat even better than Christian Jones (who we already had for basically nothing)?

            I don’t think so, ergo, wasted pick.

            That being said, Kwiat still has a slim chance of turning it around, unlike Christian Jones who is pretty much who he is.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Kwiat is hardly a find.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I was happy with our receivers bar letting go of Cam.

  • John F

    Pace has to trade down in the second round to get back the third round pick he lost in the Trubisky trade-up fiasco last year. The main reason being there are so many holes yet to fill: WR, LG, DE, RT, OLB, CB, and much better backups at almost every position.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      WHY DOES EVERYONE CARE ABOUT A 3RD ROUND PICK? Let’s trade out of position that could yield us almost 1st round talent so we can pick up a 3rd round pick that is a bigger crap shoot.

      • John F

        Because at this point we need quantity, not necessarily quality. If we had 2 or 3 holes to fill, then fine pick at 39. But we need 6 – 8 additional players right now at critical positions.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          WTF!!!! Let’s get a bunch of jags instead of someone that could start. That makes no sense. You can get jags through free agency, still plenty of guys out there.

          • John F

            We are gonna have to draft 3rd, 4th and 5th rounders to start next year anyways, whether they are ready or not. We need bodies…….

          • Irish Sweetness

            Well we won’t have a second rounder …

        • That Guy

          Let’s imagine for a moment HH’s coaching can boost a day 3 guy into day 2 ability/perfromance, or a day 2 guy into round 1 performance.

          And then let’s remember Pace’s uncanny knack for getting damn good value out of mid-round picks.

          Then you might say, yeah, let’s recoup the lost 3rd rounder.

          Except JH, Cohen, and Jackson were all 4-5. Grasu was round 3.

          I’m all for letting Pacebot roll the dice on day 3 and picking up extra round 4/5 picks. That seems to be his wheelhouse. Round 3 doesn’t impress me as much. Keep the high Round 2 and net a solid starter. Then Pace can surprise us with darkhorse picks in 4 & 5.

        • willbest

          The single greatest limiting factor in football is 11. And every time 1 of those players is too good for your opponent to handle alone, it makes everybody else in that 11 better. You win football by having studs.

          When you say trade back and get more picks you are basically saying that finding studs is a crap shoot and more bullets in the barrel is better.

          • “finding studs is a crap shoot and more bullets in the barrel is better.”

            – that is basically Jeff’s premise as he always likes to point out that.

            However, it’s rather common for 40 players to have true 1st RD grades, so trading out of that range can lead to lower talent.

          • willbest

            If finding studs were that much of a crap shoot, the top 50 players selected wouldn’t end up being the lion’s share of them. And yes you can argue that they get more opportunity, but talent evaluation while not an exact science isn’t total guesswork.

          • John F

            You win football by having studs

            This is probably true in theory. The Bears don’t have anyone close to this definition. They haven’t had one for many years.

          • willbest

            The D is 1 stud pass rusher away from being brutal (assuming everybody stays healthy). The Offense, needs Trubisky to be the person he was drafted to be in addition to shoring up that o-line.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Yet Pace has ignored that pass rusher and has therefore failed in his role.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          The issue I have is the finality of your statement. Pace HAS to trade down. No he doesn’t.

          I am pretty sure no one is really opposed to trading down and getting extra picks. But if there is someone that they grade well ahead of what would be available after a trade, it is hard to let that guy go especially when you have a high pick in the 2nd. One guy you grade as a stud is better than having an extra 2 or 3 guys that you aren’t as sure of.

          I also think there is a slight flaw in your logic. If we are 6-8 guys away, does throwing a bunch of jags at it really solve anything? Guess what next year you could easily be 6-8 guys away again. So do you trade down to in order to get another group of jags? At some point you NEED quality over quantity.

          • John F

            The problem with waiting another year is that you will lose guys to FA and retirement so the 6-8 guys becomes 10-12 guys and you never are able to make that up. You need to build up your roster as fast as you can with as many guys as you can, then you can add 2 or 3 guys a year from then on that are very good players.

            I think today that if the Bears can’t get a very good outside pass rush guy in the second, then they need to trade down.

          • willbest

            You are basically stating the Bears should trade down and hit on a 4 of a kind, because next year it will be too late. And your argument doesn’t even make sense. The Bears will have a ton of cap next year too, and the only player of note they are in danger of losing is Goldman who they can franchise, and Bobbie Massie. Everybody else is replaceable in day 2+ of FA

          • John F

            The more cards you get, the better chance you have to win ………..

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            LOL you are talking in circles. You have gone from Pace has to trade down to only if we can’t get a pass rusher.

            It would also be helpful if you went and looked at our roster and see what we could lose to FA and retirement next year. We have one of the youngest rosters in the league so retirement should not be a big problem. Most of our core is signed through 2019 so the guys we would be losing next year are the jags on the roster. Then you are assuming we can’t also pick up players in FA to replace the ones we are willing to let go.

          • John F

            I was simply trying to concede to you that there could be a valid reason to keep the pick and not be so strident that Pace must trade down. Jeez, I listen to your argument, agree with you, and get criticized – I can’t win either way.

            Pace’s record in FA is pretty poor, I don’t really feel comfortable relying on that year after year.

        • Johnnywad

          We don’t need quality? Isn’t that what go us into this mess in the first place?

          • John F

            We have to make the best of a bad situation – we are short a starting LG, DE, ROLB and WR (when White gets hurt again) and need significant upgrades at RT, RG (when Long gets hurt again), and LOLB (when Floyd gets hurt again).

            We need a LOT of bodies ……….

          • Johnnywad

            I disagree. We need a very small number of playmakers. We don’t need any more JAGS.

          • SC Dave

            This

          • John F

            I really wish that was true, we’ll find out come September I guess.

      • John F

        The main issue here is whether you think the Bears are 1 or 2 guys away from being competitive, or 6 to 8 guys away. I think it is the latter – so trade down and get more picks. If you believe the former, keep the pick and select the guy that fills one of the two remaining holes in your roster.

        • willbest

          But every time you trade down you are reducing the odds of finding a contributor.

          • John F

            I don’t think that is statistically true.

      • willbest

        No doubt. The last time 5 QB’s were selected in the first round was 1999. Toss in a crazy 3 RBs in round 1 and you are looking at a lot of quality players at other positions that fell to the 2nd round.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Ask Bellifat …..

    • Robert Gollner

      Fiasco? seriously

      • John F

        Uh yeah, Pace gave up two high third round picks and a fourth round pick to the 49ers and the 49ers were never going to pick Trubisky – that’s a fiasco when there are holes all over the Bears roster and he would have gotten Trubisky anyways.

        Read the story on SI about the trade – no one but the Bears were calling the 49ers for that pick. Pace got suckered.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Fiasco is a good word for it.

    • To me, it just depends on who’s available.
      I’m really hoping for Landry, but if he’s gone, I would be ok with trading down.

      Part of this is because I actually trust Pace in the trade down a bit more now.

      I remember everyone going nuts when he traded down twice to end up with Whitehair.
      He skipped on Buddha last yr and ended up with Jackson in what might be the steal of the draft.

      So outside Landry, I could see the trade down.

      It might be a lil painful watching some more well known names like Hernadez or Josua Jackson fly off the board, but no one knew who the hell Sasheen, Cohen or Eddie Jackson were either, and they seem as solid as those more known prospects before them.

  • chitownproud85

    Peanut <3

  • OK, so if we’re debating trading up/down, here’s a decent list of BPAs. Don’t know exactly where that magical line of stud/jag player is though.
    ………………………………………………………………………
    1. EDGE Harold Landry, Boston College | 6’2, 252 | Athleticism: 87th percentile | Age: 22

    Where He Wins: Pure speed and explosion off the edge. Even if he didn’t have moves or counters, tackles would fear Landry because of his ability to run the arc. That alone will create production. His flexibility to turn the corner and take a tight angle towards the quarterback might be the best in this class. The outside threat allows him to set up the inside move. Understands he needs to locate the quarterback when getting depth.

    Forecast: Deal with injuries in 2017, but his 2015 and 2016 stuff is high high end tape. A natural pass rusher and that is what matters most. Don’t be too concerned about his run fits on the outside.

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    2. DL Maurice Hurst, Michigan | 6’1, 292 | Athleticism: N/A | Age: 23

    Where He Wins: Burst off the snap to shoot gaps or attack edges of interior offensive linemen. Hurst is so quick that he takes advantage of any error on the inside. Late on a reach block? Hurst is in the backfield. Hesitate to fill for a pulling lineman? Hurst will make a play. Likely fits as a 3-technique in a one gap defense, but has plenty of snaps at 1-technique in a NASCAR package. Plays low, which helps carry the momentum he created. Plays with timing and vision to separate and make plays on the ball.

    Forecast: Interior disruption is king, and Hurst offers it most consistently in this class. Hurst was held out of the Combine with a heart concern, but he has since been cleared.

    3. RB Derrius Guice, LSU | 5’11, 224 | Athleticism: 28th percentile | Age: 21

    Where He Wins: No nonsense runner. Wants to maximize the blocking in front of him and will win on contact, either a few yards on final contact or break into free space. Not afraid of contact and faced a number of heavy boxes. Displayed big play ability during his first two years. Shows patience behind the line to wait for an opening on the front side or back side. Makes his cuts off a single step while maintaining momentum.

    Comparison: On the Thomas Rawls – Marshawn Lynch spectrum

    Forecast: Dealt with a deep thigh bruise this season but looked back to form down the stretch. Was not a major part of the passing game, but that is typical of LSU running backs.

    4. CB Joshua Jackson, Iowa | 6’0, 196 | Athleticism: 82nd percentile | Age: 22

    Where He Wins: Plays inside and outside. Slow plays his footwork to mirror in routes then drives on the ball off breaks. Anticipates certain routes and understands he has sideline help. Very good in isolation in the red zone. It is his ball in the air, and Jackson’s receiver background likely plays a role in that.

    Forecast: Likely an outside corner who will attack the football in the air. Ball skills are an important part of his game, and it is not just the interception numbers.

    5. OL James Daniels, Iowa | 6’3, 306 | Athleticism: N/A | Age: 21

    Where He Wins: Pass protection is great. Athleticism is clear when asked to get out of his stance and block on the move, either getting to the second level or pulling as a lead blocker in space. Positional blocker in the running game.

    Comparison: Ryan Kalil, Panthers

    Forecast: Not a drive blocker in the running game, but that won’t be his job. Should be a longtime starting center and offers movement rarely seen at the position.

    6. EDGE Lorenzo Carter, Georgia | 6’5, 250 | Athleticism: 96th percentile | Age: 22

    Where He Wins: A true force player. Rotates between playing off the ball, on the edge and even takes snaps in the slot. So sound at accomplishing his assignment on the edge and in space, forcing ball carriers inside then shedding to make the tackle. Does the same in coverage. Athleticism equals a pass rushing ceiling, even though he is a bit lost in that area. Chews up ground on blitzes.

    Comparison: Jamie Collins, Browns

    Forecast: One of the few edge players who might be better in space than as a pass rusher. He’s comfortable and aggressive where other edge players have difficulties. Question is if his athleticism will translate into disruption.

    7. WR Courtland Sutton, SMU | 6’3, 218 | Athleticism: 92nd percentile | Age: 22

    Where He Wins: Smooth athlete who can win with just natural ability. Seems to make one highlight reel play per game when all of the tools come together. Fluid mover after the catch for a player of his size. Flashes using his entire frame to win contested along the sideline and in the end zone. Outside receiver.

    Comparison: Demaryius Thomas, Broncos

    Forecast: The floor and ceiling for Sutton are not close. If it all comes together he can be the clear top receiver in this class and potentially a true WR1. But too often he doesn’t use his size. Too often he seems disinterested or doesn’t give full effort when targeted. Poor quarterback play did not help. But his combination of size and fluidity is difficult to find.

    8. iOL Will Hernandez, UTEP | 6’2, 327 | Athleticism: 66th percentile | Age: 23

    Where He Wins: Mauling left guard. When he attacks a defender with both hands, his intention is to put them on the ground. This might sound like an odd comparison, but he can play guard like a linebacker in terms of locating a target and demolishing them, especially when pulling. His size and strength helps him eliminate a pass rusher’s momentum.

    Comparison: Marshal Yanda, Ravens

    Forecast: He’s your old school hammer interior offensive lineman. As long as Hernandez picks up the protections (no reason to think he can’t), he has all the tools to be a longtime starter.

    9. WR Christian Kirk, Texas A&M | 5’10, 201 | Athleticism: 31st percentile | Age: 21

    Where He Wins: Constantly made big plays with the ball in his hands, reading downfield blocks or making defensive backs miss when asked to tackle. Always working to get open when his quarterback escapes the pocket. Flashes winning contested when body catching. Plenty of snaps both inside and out.

    Comparison: Golden Tate, Lions

    Forecast: Wins in the small game but flashes winning contested. Question is if that translates to the NFL as well as on the outside. He can help a team immediately.

    10. S Justin Reid, Stanford | 6’1, 207 | Athleticism: 96th percentile | Age: 21

    Where He Wins: Exceptional athlete, and it shows when covering ground laterally or attacking ball carriers upfield. Combination of quickness and explosion allows him to play the ball in the air at the catch point to cause incompletions. Stanford asked him to line up in a variety of spots. In the box, as a safety and even played man to man in some instances. Play recognition can lead to tackles for loss.

    Forecast: Reid had eight or nine visits during the process, so expect him to be a top 40 selection.

    11. TE Dallas Goedert, South Dakota State | 6’5, 256 | Athleticism: N/A | Age: 23

    Where He Wins: So good at elevating and coming down with acrobatic catches. Not afraid to go over the middle of the field or attack the sidelines. Absolutely can adjust to off target passes, either behind him, low or above. Impressive red zone weapon. Often lines up detached from the formation or off the line.

    Comparison: Hunter Henry, Arkansas

    Forecast: Yards after the catch is not really part of his game. Did not complete a full athletic profile. Will be questions if he can immediately be relied upon as an every down inline option.

    12. RB Nick Chubb, Georgia | 5’11, 227 | Athleticism: 83rd percentile | Age: 22

    Where He Wins: Has an uncommon combination of balance and power to win on contact and acceleration to make the most of space create for him. Actually had to work for his 20-plus yard runs rather than fit through huge lanes. Still an incredible athlete despite the knee injury that knocked him out. Patience, then burst, then balance.

    Forecast: Again, it is amazing that Chubb is still the athlete he is. And it is a positive that we have no heard a single word about teams being concerned about that injury. He will be a day two selection.

    13. WR Anthony Miller, Memphis | 5’11, 201 | Athleticism: N/A | Age: 23

    Where He Wins: Consistently wins contested at 5-foot-11. Outstanding red zone receiver. Comfortable on the outside or in the slot. Separation in his routes with animated movements and crisp footwork in his breaks. Will come down with acrobatic grabs. Strong after the catch to shed final defender and pick up yards.

    Forecast: Back to back 90+ reception, 1,400 yard, 15 touchdowns seasons. Foot fractures are really difficult to come back from in one season. Re-injury rate is high. Plus, we don’t have an athletic profile on Miller.

    14. OL Connor Williams, Texas | 6’5, 296 | Athleticism: 78th percentile | Age: 21

    Where He Wins: Played left tackle at Texas, wide base might push him to guard. Athletic feet and looks to extend to press and control.

    Comparison: T Riley Reiff, Iowa

    Forecast: Try him at tackle before moving him to guard, if that is the ultimate plan.

    15. T Brian O’Neill, Pitt | 6’7, 297 | Athleticism: 84th percentile | Age: 23

    Where He Wins: Fantastic athlete who has experience on the left and right sides. Absolutely no question if he can stick with speed rushers around the arc and won’t get caught slow footed on outside to inside moves. Also great at pulling out in space to lead block.

    Forecast: Must get stronger. Has difficulties anchoring at this time once a defensive lineman jolts him. Hit the elite 20-yard shuttle threshold that projects OL success at a high rate.

    16. LB/EDGE Genard Avery, Memphis | 6’1, 248 | Athleticism: 87th percentile | Age: ?

    Where He Wins: Exciting prospects because he combines athleticism, bend and closing quickness. With that said, he isn’t strictly a pass rusher. He often works as a true off ball linebacker and is asked to cover receivers in the slot. A front seven weapon who is equally as talented to chase and defend the run or rush the passer, especially with his natural leverage advantage and flexibility.

    Comparison: LB Haason Reddick, Cardinals

    Forecast: Does have trouble knifing through blockers in his path. Luckily I don’t have to decide where he is being used, but he can win in multiple roles.

    17. T Tyrell Crosby, Oregon | 6’5, 309 | Athleticism: 23rd percentile | Age: 23

    Where He Wins: Left tackle. Squares shoulders towards his opponent and delivers a strong punch. If that punch puts the opposition off balance, Crosby finishes him with a nasty demeanor. Functional strength is there, so when footwork or punch is off, he can still complete his block. His goal in the running game is to create movement.

    Comparison: T Donald Penn, Raiders

    Forecast: Not the testing athlete of some of his peers, but he plays within himself and can help a team early on. Coaches will love his on-field mentality.

    18. EDGE Sam Hubbard, Ohio St | 6’5, 270 | Athleticism: 64th percentile | Age: 23

    Where He Wins: At his best when space is created. Able to turn the corner or change direction on one step, which is uncommon at 270 pounds. Will take advantage of inside lanes when looping inside.

    Forecast: Hubbard’s athletic profile is an odd one. He posted a ridiculous 6.84 3-cone… then a 4.95 forty. He wins in space, not on contact, which is a bit of a conundrum based on his size.

    19. LB Fred Warner, BYU | 6’3, 236 | Athleticism: 80th percentile | Age: 21

    Where He Wins: Exactly the combination of athleticism and aggression you want at the position. Warner often knifes through lanes or gaps or gets in front of blocks with his speed and quickness. On top of that Warner flashes when blitzing or sticking with a tight end or back in coverage when asked to do either.

    Comparison: LB Shaq Thompson, Panthers

    Forecast: Many BYU prospects are overaged. That is not Warner. He can come in and make an instant impact if afforded the opportunity.

    20. EDGE Josh Sweat, FSU | 6’5, 251 | Athleticism: 95th percentile | Age: 21

    Where He Wins: Insane athlete. Sweat can fire up the field in a hurry, instantly putting an offensive tackle in panic mode to get a deep drop set. If Sweat has space, he will win and disrupt the backfield. Held up in run defense well.

    Comparison: EDGE Danielle Hunter, LSU

    Forecast: FSU often used sweat as a tight edge instead of a true edge, where he would be afforded more space. In fact, often it seemed he was reactive rather than asked to be disruptive. Hopefully that changes. He gets a bit lost when his initial momentum is stopped, lacking a counter. I hope he lands with a coach who can coach.

    21. WR Equanimeous St. Brown, Notre Dame | 6’5, 214 | 62nd percentile | Age: 21

    Where He Wins: A very smooth player for his size. Will run crossing routes underneath and can win after the catch thanks for long strides. Has body control to adjust and win along the sideline. Naturally wins big because of his height and length.

    Comparison: WR Devin Funchess, Panthers

    Forecast: His combination of fluidity and size is difficult to find. He doesn’t consistently win big despite being big. A second day pick.

    22. DL Nathan Shepherd, Fort Hays State | 6’4. 315 | Athleticism: 64th percentile | Age: ?

    Where He Wins: Wants to get upfield and disrupt rather than stay at the line of scrimmage. Explosion plus power plus balance. He uses heavy hands and hips to work behind interior offensive linemen.

    Forecast: Overaged prospect, so not a surprise to see him win against lower level, younger prospects. But he did the same against top Senior Bowl talent, so I do not have concerns.

    23. WR James Washington, Oklahoma State

    24. S Jessie Bates, Wake Forest

    25. WR DaeSean Hamilton, Penn State

    26. G Austin Corbett, Nevada

    27. EDGE Kemoko Turay, Rutgers

    28. S Ronnie Harrison, Alabama

    29. DL Deadrin Senat, USF

    30. TE Mike Gesicki, Penn State

    31. LB Dorian O’Daniel, Clemson

    32. EDGE Obo Okoronkwo, Oklahoma

    http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/79541/60/day-2-best-available-players?pg=1

    • SC Dave

      TL;DR

  • willbest

    Did it seem like there was a lot more movement yesterday than normal? It feels like teams are getting more liberal with their trades than they have historically.

    I wonder if its the impact that Big Data might be having on football selection. It makes it easier for GM’s to come off their “gut” because there is some “objective” value they can place on these picks.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      I think there were more trades last year in the 1st round. But I do think the number of trades has increased in the last few years.

    • I feel like the rook wage scale has finally changed the rigid mentality of most GMs.
      Ppl b4 would never stray from the old chart.

      Now, GMs are a bit more flexible.

      For instance, the Bills didn’t want to offer both their 1st, so the Bucs said, OK, we’ll take your 2nds.
      Done. Maybe not exact value or whatever, but they were both willing to think a lil outside the box.

      The Saints moved up for a non-QB. Lotta ppl hated that, but just shows how willing ppl are to trade into the 1st which is no longer cost prohibitive.

      And on the flip side, the Puke were willing to take a future 1st.

      Lots of times teams are hesitant about taking future picks, but again, this seems to be changing, which makes more options for trades.

      Teams are also more open to trading players for picks too (like with Bryant).

      All this makes for a more open free-wheeling market.

      I kinda like it (as long as Pace benefits from it)

      • willbest

        Green Bay traded back up too. So they lost like 4 spots, and turned their 3rd and 6th this year into a 5th & 7th this year and a 1st next year. That seems to me like an amazing bit of GM work.

        • I feel it’s a bit like Vegas. Once you make a deal, you loosen up and let it ride.

          Colts, Bills, GB…wheeling and dealing while everyone else ok on the slots.

          And in some ways it’s a domino effect.

          If another team makes a trade for a guy on your board, that could change the plan, and cause some other teams to reach and trade up or be resigned and trade down

    • John F

      I read an article that basically said that teams have been over-valuing 1st round picks – unless you are picking in the top ten – since there are almost as many busts in round one as there are in all the other rounds.

      So teams are getting wise to the fact that it may be better to lower their perceived value of these first round picks and make more trades.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        I think you need to find better articles to read or work on your reading comprehension. Because you just stated that a 1st round pick has the same probability as a 7th round pick to be a bust. That is just wrong.

        Pretty sure Wood did an article showing the success rates of each round, and the chance of getting starters decreases with each round.

        • John F

          No, the article (partially) is about the over-valuation of 1st round picks. I said there are almost as many busts of first round players.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Maybe you should post the article.

  • I think it will be Daniels.

    The Grasu experiment is over. Fuck Beavers.

    • Could be. Best C according to some.
      I wonder if WH will be kicked to OG if Daniels is drafted.

      They’ll both be essentially learning a brand new O.

  • “On NFL Network, @CharleyCasserly just said that only 50% of second-round picks over the last decade were starting for that team four years later. Coin flip. Don’t draft for need after first round. Take good players.” – Jeff

    Lol, well, THAT’S the rub, isn’t it? Recognizing “good”. No GM, even those who reach for need, ever says, “Ya know, that guy sucks, but I’m gonna draft him anyways.”

    Alshon = Good
    Forte = Great

    Bostic = bad
    Paea = Flatbread

    It’s interesting going over the 2nd RDer of the Bears. Historically speaking, we might be better off trading out of the 1st altogether and just racking up as many 2nds as possible (Mike Brown, Peanut, Hester, Atrain?)

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/chi/draft.htm

    • John F

      Year Name Pos
      2017 Adam Shaheen TE
      2016 Cody Whitehair G
      2015 Eddie Goldman DT
      2014 Ego Ferguson DT
      2013 Jonathan Bostic LB
      2012 Alshon Jeffery WR
      2011 Stephen Paea DT
      2008 Matt Forte RB
      2007 Dan Bazuin DE
      2006 Danieal Manning DB
      2006 Devin Hester DB
      2005 Mark Bradley WR
      2004 Tank Johnson DT
      2003 Charles Tillman DB
      2001 Anthony Thomas RB
      2000 Mike Brown DB
      1999 Russell Davis DT
      1998 Tony Parrish DB
      1997 John Allred TE

      • John F

        Except for a few names, this 1st round list makes me want to throw up (I suppose it has gotten slightly better lately):

        Year Name Pos
        2017 Mitch Trubisky QB
        2016 Leonard Floyd OLB
        2015 Kevin White WR
        2014 Kyle Fuller DB
        2013 Kyle Long G
        2012 Shea McClellin DE
        2011 Gabe Carimi T
        2008 Chris Williams T
        2007 Greg Olsen TE
        2005 Cedric Benson RB
        2004 Tommie Harris DT
        2003 Michael Haynes DE
        2003 Rex Grossman QB
        2002 Marc Colombo T
        2001 David Terrell WR
        2000 Brian Urlacher LB
        1999 Cade McNown QB
        1998 Curtis Enis RB

        • Exactly. UGH.

          Maybe the next Bears GM can just trade down out of the 1st entirely and pick up two early 2nd RDers and change.

          Imagine having three 2nd RDers.

          Look at the Browns. They have the #34rth and #35th picks.

          They can draft Landry and Will Hernandez, and those are essentially top 20 picks on some boards.

          Then, add in an extra 2nd to get a guy like say Oliver, Ronold Jones….

          Would be an interesting strategy (as long as you have a franchise QB in place)

          • John F

            They will draft two guys we have never heard of at #34/35. They could have had the QB from USC and Chubb and they blew it.

    • John F

      1985 wasn’t too bad:

      Round Name Position
      1 Jimbo Covert T
      1 Willie Gault WR
      2 Mike Richardson DB
      3 Dave Duerson DB
      4 Tom Thayer G
      8 Richard Dent DE
      8 Mark Bortz G

      • AlbertInTucson

        Wrong. Wrong So wrong.

        • AlbertInTucson

          The 85 draft was

          1.The Fridge
          2. Reggie Phillips DB
          3. James Maness WR
          4. Butthead
          5.None
          6.None

          Here’s the list.

          http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?season=1985

          • John F

            I know, I found my mistake and corrected it, sorry for the confusion. The 1985 draft was pretty decent too – Mikey McCaskey took over after that and it has never been the same for the Bears ever since.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Outside of the Fridge and Butler, the ’85 draft wasn’t very remarkable.

          • John F

            Phillips had a TD in the SB ………. although a lot of Bears scored that day ………

          • AlbertInTucson

            Phillips made 14 starts in a 4 year career.

            The Super Bowl INT was a fluke that bounced of a Patriot receiver.

            Phillips was only in the game because Les Frazier blew his knee out on that ill-fated reverse on a punt return.

          • John F

            OK, OK, OK ….. the 1985 draft wasn’t very remarkable.

          • haha. You’re not gonna win a trivia argument with Al.

            He probably remembers what the Fridge had for lunch b4 the SB!

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Al probably knows how much weight the Fridge lost during his pregame bowel movement.

          • SC Dave

            Wjat was it… 1983? The iline draft to end all oline drafts?

            Covert, Thayer, Bortz.

            Oh, and some flyer called Richard Dent

    • SC Dave

      Well, there were Sayers, Butkus, and Payton. Hampton too iirc.

  • willbest

    “I’m the only one rooting for Pace not to trade back in round 2 because I’d rather go to sleep before round 3.” – Jeff

    Of the 10+ million Chicago bears fans, the. only. one.

    Of course, Pace could trade his pair of 4s to move up into the 3rd but never mind that.

    • Personally, I’m only married to one prospect – Harold Landry
      If he’s there and Pace trades down, I will be pissed.
      But even then, it won’t be total Shea status cuz apparently he has a medical red flag, and I’m no DR (though I might be a better one than the ones the Bears employ)

      Other than that, that’s a loooong list I posted about the best available. Pace has some room to maneuver. He would really have to try to fuck it up.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        I would not mind Josh Jackson. In fact if he is still there I bet thats Paces pick

        • Yeah, he looks good. Likely graded ahead of Oliver who is similar. According to cheat sheet I posted:

          4. CB Joshua Jackson, Iowa | 6’0, 196 | Athleticism: 82nd percentile | Age: 22

          WhereHe Wins: Plays inside and outside. Slow plays his footwork to mirror in
          routes then drives on the ball off breaks. Anticipates certain routes and understands he has sideline help. Very good in isolation in the red zone. It is his ball in the air, and Jackson’s receiver background likely plays a role in that.

          Forecast: Likely an outside corner who will attack the football in the air. Ball skills are an important part of his game, and it is not just the interception numbers.

          • leftcoastdave

            Love my Hawkeyes. Daniels and Jackson, not to mention Josey Jewell at LB down the board.

            What could we get in trade for Kwik?

          • For Kwik, not much sadly.
            Doubt even a 6th.

          • SC Dave

            Wjy would anyone think trading him would net a better player?

        • leftcoastdave

          How about another Dog further down the draft?

          A lot of love going between Floyd and Smith. Let’s see more of it after getting a third.

          Lorenzo Carter, 3-4OLB, Georgia

          Height: 6-5. Weight: 250. Arm: 34.
          40 Time: 4.50.
          Projected Round (2018): 2-3.

  • Let’s hope there’s an early run on RBs/TEs/WRs

    And throw in Mason Rudolph for good measure.

    • Big Mike

      You hoping for a trade back? I’m still a firm believer in quality over quantity at this point. I counted 5 players that I thought would go in top 25 that could still be there for the Bears. The OG from UTEP – Hernandez, Joshua Jackson CB from Iowa, Landry, Edge Rusher, Sutton- WR from SMU, Maurice Hurst

      • John F

        Somebody said there are injury concerns on Landry, right?

        • Rumored his ankle is messed. But I heard other reports he’s good. So, who knows. I think he’s worth the risk though.

      • John F

        Gotta go guard, major need

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          minor need.

          • John F

            Really? Our supposed starting left guard is coming off a major knee surgery and our starting right guard is coming off three or four major injuries?!?!?

        • John F

          Or WR, DE, OLB, CB …….

      • I’m ok with a trade back (IF Landry is gone).

        I just don’t know how much better, say, Josh Jackson is over Oliver, or if Sutton is a better WR than Kirk, or if Hernandez would fit our system better than Daniels, etc

        That’s why I would be ok with a trade down (as long as we get a 3rd).

        • Big Mike

          I really like Hernandez.

          • SC Dave

            Me too

          • Big Mike

            Watched more video on him. He’s got great feed, good vision and agility at second level. Thick lower body and a naturally low pad level. He’s only 20, he’s got 2 – 3 solid years of physical development that will come relatively easy. Pace has said Hiestand was a big part of why he got this guy. Also said he’d “be at left guar and cross train at Center”

        • Big Mike

          Yeah, I was right. Giants took Hernandez. I thought he’d be gone.

  • Joecashflow

    A Jay Cutler mention on NFL network just now. Uh, he’s going into reality tv.

  • leftcoastdave

    So Roquan got a lot of love today. Anyone on the board still bitchin’?

  • leftcoastdave

    Jeff. Pace yourself and stay up past 8 tonight.

  • Heeeerree we gooo…

  • leftcoastdave

    Love it. They just said the Chiefs wanted to move up.

    Connected!

    • John F

      Is there a trade?

      • leftcoastdave

        Time will tell.

  • John F

    You have got to be kidding me Browns

    • Big Mike

      terrible choice good for bears

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    I love how the NFL is all against Domestic Violence but are willing to trot Jim Brown out on stage

  • Who? Corbitt?
    That’s what I mean. This 2nd RD is a cluster%ack

    It’s gonna be nuts.

  • We need the Browns to always draft 3 times before us.

  • John F

    #50 is calling the Bears 2nd round pick

  • John F

    No Hernandez for us

  • John F

    Browns next pick already in

  • Wow. That dude is gonna maul ppl.
    Gonna be great seeing him go up against that Eagle’s front

  • John F

    Browns go RB

  • Big Mike

    Jesus Christ how many picks to the Browns have

    • And Colts have back to back picks coming up

      • Big Mike

        Pace has to be surgical, these f’n clowns can just throw picks out there and hope

    • leftcoastdave

      The Peckers have another 12 or so with compensatory picks.

      (Slight exaggeration.)

      • John F

        very slight

  • Big Mike

    Man do the Browns suck. they could have had so many fucking pieces

  • John F

    Butch is absolutely right, we need nothing but Browns picks before us ………

  • Chubb! reminded me of Frank Gore.

    Let the HB rush commence!

  • John F

    Colts pick in

    • John F

      No trades so far

      • They said the Chiefs, Chargers and Cards were trying to trade up

        • John F

          I’m just surprised how fast the picks are going

  • leftcoastdave

    Landry or Jackson coming off next? Or both back to back?

    • John F

      That would suck

    • Shhh.

      Colts need a RB.
      They need some more Oline
      They need another WR

      Let’s hope they go that way.

      Edit, also desperately need a CB.

      • Malice Halice

        Who u got your sights on?

        • I’m really hoping for Landry.

          Major need. Major talent.

          • ButtonShoes

            I want Landry too, but I wonder about his injury issues.

          • Big Mike

            Some like Arden Key better. Some don’t like Jarvis at all.

      • Big Mike

        Shit, there is a boat load of options. Bears could go back. Arden Key Edge Rusher, Landry.. dam..

        • Big Mike

          Oh man that SMU WR is still there..

        • Malice Halice

          Whose this Landry guy?

          • Big Mike

            Jarvis Landry. Butch has a man crush on him. @4ever85akabutchdeadlift:disqus

          • John F

            Edge rusher from Boston College(?)

          • Big Mike

            Yes. Some boards have him as the 4th or 5th best edge rusher in the draft. Others higher. but @4ever85akabutchdeadlift:disqus loves him.

  • Malice Halice

    Where should we go with this pick fellas?

    • ButtonShoes

      DEFENSE!

      • Malice Halice

        Yea I agree. DE’s?

        • ButtonShoes

          That wouldn’t be bad at all. CB would be great, too.

          • Malice Halice

            No confidence in Prince huh?

          • ButtonShoes

            The word “interception” is not in his vocabulary.

          • Malice Halice

            Damn, that’s not funny cuz he’s on our team.

          • Nor is “health” outside 1 season

    • leftcoastdave

      Down!!!

      • Malice Halice

        Yea lowkey I think we should get some more picks.

  • ButtonShoes

    Will Hernandez off the board. Damn. Still plenty of good players left. DO NOT TRADE BACK, PACE.

  • leftcoastdave

    Cool, who dat?

  • John F

    Another Colts pick

  • John F

    I guess the Colts GM heard that Luck has been getting hurt

  • John F

    There will probably be three trades right after the Bears make their pick

    • Malice Halice

      Honestly I can’t complain about yesterday, but today I’m 60/40 for trading back.

  • John F

    Bucs pick is in, Bears on the clock

    • Big Mike

      Joshua Jackson IA rated top 15 by some.

  • Big time rush on Olinemen. Hope Pace doesn’t reach.

    There’s a lot of talent still on the board.

  • ButtonShoes

    A WEALTH of talent to choose from now. Don’t fuck it up, Pace.

  • John F

    Jones is a good RB, but man it is wide open for Pace

  • John F

    Bears pick is in, no trade down

  • Oh shit, RO JO. Thought Bucs might go HB.

    HAROLD FUCKING LANDRY PACE.

    C’mooooon!

    • Big Mike

      no trade, pick is in.

  • Big Mike

    Fuck Pace has 5-6 good RD 1 level talent guys. He could go back 10 and still get a stud. Oh man. .What say you Pace.

    • leftcoastdave

      I would have rather seen trades down too, but can you argue with Daniels? He’s as good as getting Nelson.

      • Big Mike

        He could be as good as Nelson. He starts day one most likely. He’ll really benefit from Hiestand. Not sure Nelson would have. Same voice in your head as you had in College. Familiarity leads to being comfortable.

  • John F

    Pace just fumbled

  • leftcoastdave

    Solid.

    • willbest

      In what universe?

  • ButtonShoes

    But…why? We have Hiestand, yes? YOU NEED A GODDAMN EDGE RUSHER, PACE.

  • beninnorcal

    Good pick

  • leftcoastdave

    Hawkeyes run out of zone block and Harry knows quality.

    The middle be filled.

    • willbest

      Does he play something other than Center?

      • John F

        Like OLB or DE

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Whitehair can go back to his natural position. LG

        • willbest

          So he has been playing out of position for 34 of his 36 NFL games?

          • willbest

            30 of 32 excuse me

          • Pretty Boy Assassin

            They tried to move him to Guard last year, so it isn’t out of the blue. After his 2016, you’d think they’d not screw with it, but whatever.

          • willbest

            They did that because they were still pretending Grasu wasn’t a waste of a pick.

          • Pretty Boy Assassin

            You could say that…or they thought for some reason that:
            Hroniss + Whitehair > Whitehair + Injured Long

            As if Long wasn’t coming back. Stupid Fox.

          • Big Mike

            The games he played at G the ol was in shambles. Can’t even look at that. Whitehair at G is phenomenal.

            Whitehair, Daniels, Long. Get use to it. These guys will be fantastic

          • willbest

            You do realize that your logic is as follows
            The 2 games in the NFL that WH played G don’t count.
            WH is a phenomenal Guard (subtext: in the NFL).

            Look, I don’t care that people are optimistic, and I know you understand the trenches, but there is no objective metric by which to claim he is phenomenal, which us laypeople would understand as top 5 guard.

          • Big Mike

            Yep. I also will argue that I know considerably more than you do about evaluating OL. Played 10seasons coached 10 seasons

          • leftcoastdave

            Yup.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            yep. He had never played C in college, he was drafted as a G.

          • willbest

            I would venture to say that if you have 2 years of NFL experience, your college resume doesn’t matter all that much.

          • Big Mike

            He’s a very good LG. He has been out of position. Watch..

        • Irish Sweetness

          He was a tackle in college.

          • willbest

            He did a bit of everything if I recall

      • Malice Halice

        Cody moving to da side bro. Cuz Cody is well verse

      • leftcoastdave

        Yes, he can also play guard if that is where they want him. But he called it out of the C on a quality Big Ten team known for O line quality with a traditional drop back passer and zone blocking schemes.

        • Big Mike

          Trust Hiestand on this. I like the pick.

  • ButtonShoes

    I guess when it comes to having a pass rush, Pace doesn’t give a shit.

    • Malice Halice

      We still got FA tho, keep hope alive

  • John F

    Aaaaaaaaaand Pace just reverted back to his same old self …………

    • Big Mike

      Nobody liked Cody Whitehair either. James Daniels must be a helluva player, because Hiestand knows.

      • John F

        That’s our only hope at this point ……….

        • Big Mike

          We needed an interior OL. James Daniels is widely graded as an instant starter. I’ve watched a bit of his video this am. Low Pad level, quick feet, athletic in space, exceptional length for an interior player, high football IQ (being a Center at Iowa, is more like a pro system than snapping and pass blocking without anyone over you). He’s 20 so he has a couple years to physically mature.

  • John F

    I wonder if this means that Kush or Long ain’t gonna be able to come back …………

    • Big Mike

      Means Grasu is unemployed

      • AlbertInTucson

        A long overdue status, IMO.

  • Big Mike
  • Seriously? Good lord.

    I heard that Sitton guy was pretty good.

    Nothing against Daniels, but I think there were way better options.

    I think the rush on Olinemen and not having a 3rd made Pace reach.

    • ButtonShoes

      And now we’re going to have to wait until tomorrow for Pace to “attempt” to patch up the defense.

    • Big Mike

      He’s a versatile C/G, but Grasu just probably got cut.

      • I hated Grasu from the start. Just never got that pick.

        That pick comes to haunt us 3 yrs later. Fuck you Grasu.

        And this is exactly why I didn’t want to cut Sitton for nothing.

        • Big Mike

          Grasu was a miss. The strategy was to increase his functional strength and he’d be all set. He never could, he was maxed out. Can’t always tell that. The whole Slauson, Sitton thing makes sense if you are set on a process of developing young interior OL that you can get it rounds 2-5. So they have a couple 2nd rd starters to go with Kyle Long. They might also be setting up to not have to resign Kyle after his rookie contract is up. Weird right? But it makes sense. An OL on affordable rookie contracts, with a process in place to develop talent and depth.

          Would have been nice to get something for Sitton/Slauson. Slauson made the least sense, because they replaced him with a clone who fell in their lap. Why GB let him go, no f’n idea. Sitton makes better sense because they got Daniels and shed a ton of $.

    • leftcoastdave

      He was projected in the first.

      Mayock ranked him #17 of top 100!

      • willbest

        That is fine, but we have a center, and don’t have anybody that scares opposing QB’s

        • John F

          But we had a “Top 10 Defense”, I’ve heard it a thousand times around here …..

          • willbest

            We are arguably 1 Von Miller away from a top 3 D. But you um… actually have to have the Von Miller

    • leftcoastdave

      Nope. Look at the Olinemen coming out of Iowa. You have a dude who is trained up in the system ready to step in and play for a decade.

      • SC Dave

        What?

  • Viva Dave Toub

    Can we now trade Hroniss for an Unrestricted Player to be named later?

    • Pretty Boy Assassin

      Please, please, please….

      I want no more of the Hroniss Bonus

  • I hope to gawd Pace trades his 4rths, Grasu, and whatever else to jump back into the 2nd and draft Harold

    • ButtonShoes

      Titans are taking Landry. So….goddammit.

    • leftcoastdave

      Too late.

  • John F

    This is what’s known as a “re-draft”. Pace screwed up with Grasu so he had to re-draft the position, never a good thing for a GM to have to do ………. This has also happened with RB’s with Pace ……..

    • willbest

      We had a center that was competent. A bit shakey last year but did the pre-season as a guard. He settled back in towards the end of the season.

      • John F

        Our guards (Kush/Long) must really be hurt and not expected to come back any time soon ……..

        • willbest

          I mean that has to be it. Pace doesn’t trust Long.

        • leftcoastdave

          Pace drafted a true C (Harry gave him the HH seal of approval) who has called out the zone blocking schemes for Iowa for three years.
          James Daniels*, C, Iowa
          Height: 6-3. Weight: 306. Arm: 33.25.
          Projected 40 Time: 5.00.
          Projected Round (2018): 1-2.
          4/24/18: Over the past three seasons, Daniels was a starter for Iowa. In 2017, he was a rock-solid run blocker for Akrum Wadley and was reliable in pass protection. Daniels has good technique and should be able to play quickly in his NFL career. While Daniels doesn’t have great size, he is very strong and team sources are raving about his heavy
          hands with the ability to sustain blocks while getting movement at the point of attack. Daniels has a shot at being a late first-round pick, and if he slips to Friday night, he should get selected in the second round.

          • willbest

            I think if you can competently play a position in the NFL, you are a “true” whatever it is. The fact that WH didn’t play it in college is really immaterial to what he is capable of doing.

            The question is WH a better guard than center? Who knows. Leno is a better LT than RT, since we have seen him play each. In the latter he was cut bait, in the former he is getting paid like a top 16 LT

          • Irish Sweetness

            “While Daniels doesn’t have great size…”

            Where have we heard this before?

          • John F

            Is the answer “every offensive or defensive lineman that Pace has ever picked”??

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            He is the same size as WH.

  • Sactowns#1

    Why not take Landry or a WR? Seems interesting, but I was looking for interior line so I’m good.

    • BenderMcLugh

      Same, this line is going to maul and i like that

      • SC Dave

        Less than it woild have with Nelson, but the Colts nixed that

  • Fuuuuuuck. Fucking Pace you god damn robot.

    You draft Grasu for some stupid reason, then cut Sitton, then draft a C when arguably the best pass rusher just falls in your lap in the 2nd.

    Ugh.

    • BenderMcLugh

      lol

    • SC Dave

      I feel your pain Butch. Have a beer, let it play out, and in two years when Edmunds and Landry are the two of the five scariest defenders in the fucking league, point out we could have had both .

  • BerwynBomber

    Thought there was some real D studs still left on the board, so Pace’s pick seems … curious.

    But at this point I’m willing to trust him. At this point.

    • Irish Sweetness

      After how many years?

  • ButtonShoes

    OK, so the OL’s good now, but the defense still has no pass rush. And a great pass rusher is right there, and you don’t take him. Fuck if I’ll ever understand Pace and whatever dumbass logic/reasoning he uses to make his decisions.

  • I can see the future clearly… Floyd suffers his 5th concussion and Acho becomes our #1 pass rusher

    • John F

      + Long explodes and White’s ankles melt

    • willbest

      Fuller is going to earn every penny of that contract if he has to cover opposing WRs for the 12.5 seconds QB’s are going to get.

      • This is beyond insane.

        I could’ve lived with Kush/Morgan if I had to at OG.

        In NO universe should we think Acho or some UFDA is an every week starter

        • SC Dave

          Maybe we could sign Shea on a “prove it” deal?

  • leftcoastdave

    No questions about Daniels ability or injury history. There is none. Pace drafted a true C (Harry gave him the HH seal of approval) who has
    called out the zone blocking schemes for Iowa for three years.
    James Daniels*, C, Iowa
    Height: 6-3. Weight: 306. Arm: 33.25.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.00.
    Projected Round (2018): 1-2.

    4/24/18: Over the past three seasons, Daniels was a starter for Iowa.
    In 2017, he was a rock-solid run blocker for Akrum Wadley and was
    reliable in pass protection. Daniels has good technique and should be
    able to play quickly in his NFL career. While Daniels doesn’t have great
    size, he is very strong and team sources are raving about his heavy
    hands
    with the ability to sustain blocks while getting movement at the point
    of attack. Daniels has a shot at being a late first-round pick, and if
    he slips to Friday night, he should get selected in the second round.

  • Irish Sweetness

    So after his good work on day one … he screws the pooch straight out of the gates. FML.

    • leftcoastdave

      No, he got a ten year starter to protect his # investment.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Like Grasu?

    • John F

      yeah ………. pretty much ……………..

  • EVERY FA season, a team can buy themselves an elite C or OG. Almost never fails. That’s how we got Sitton to start.

    When was the last time a premiere OLB rush hit FA? And how much do you think he would go for?

    Does Pace understand positional value? Is that not in his computations?

    I really don’t understand his rational.

    • John F

      When was the last time a premiere OLB rush hit FA?

      This is a trick question, it has never happened ……….

      • willbest

        Peppers

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Ware

        • John F

          This is probably true ……

    • Johnnywad

      Top ten D last year and it just got better yesterday. Offensive line needed to get younger and better. It just did.

      • By the end of the season the Bears had NO pass rush.

        Hicks was worn. Floyd hurt again. Had to rely on fucking Houston and Acho. Teams had ALL day to dissect the D.

        Bears didn’t sign an EDGE because good ones almost NEVER hit FA.

        I don’t know if Harold Jones is the real deal, but he would’ve been a top 10 pick last yr before the ankle.

        That’s a gamble you take 10/10 over some C.

        • evantonio

          Take a breath. He has an eye on some edge rusher in the 4th we’ve never heard of, who will come in and register 16.5 sacks.

          • I hope so, Evan…fuck.

          • evantonio

            Yeah. I hear ya. But our offense needed a lot more help than our Defense. We all want Trubs to be good, but then we want the Bears to focus the draft on D.

            Super Bears, Super Bowl.

  • leftcoastdave

    Daniels is Nelson plus as the qb of the O line with plenty of experience and a 10 year future in the league.

    • SC Dave

      What an idiotic statement.

  • Viva Dave Toub

    I love both picks!

  • willbest

    I said the o-line needs help. I am not happy about moving WH out of position, but whatever. The next 3 picks better be D-line because we need serious help there.

    • leftcoastdave

      Whitehair played out of position. He never played C in college, he played T and some G. Remember the beginning of the season when everybody was whining when he was at G with Grassu at C? Then he when back to C and flubbed snaps? Whitehair will be an anchor at G.

      • willbest

        You seem to think that College ball and NFL football are somehow on the same tier. The guy played Center in the NFL. He is an NFL Center.

        • leftcoastdave

          And a better NFL guard who is not as good a center as Daniels will be.
          Take it to the bank.

          • willbest

            Take your opinion based on no evidence to the bank? And do what with it?

    • I bet a decent C/OG will fall to the 4rth.

      No pass rusher worth a shit will.

  • Big Mike

    Hyper-athletic center who plays with a mean streak in the run game. Zone teams will adore him. Excellent leverage and leg churn on the move, accurate at the second level and plays through the whistle. Some weakness against powerful bull rushes. Not nearly as strong or impactful in pass protection. Day Two pick. Could sneak into Round 1.

  • John F

    Let’s assume for the moment that this center is wonderful.

    Is it really the best pick when there had to be some outside pass rusher that could have helped the team more?

    • leftcoastdave

      You want to install a new O with holes in the middle, or do you want to install your new O with a true C who knows how to call it out with studs on either side of him?

      This is better than getting Nelson.

      • John F

        This is probably right.

        In order to sleep at night I forgot how putrid our scoring was last year. The offense needs more help than the defense.

        • leftcoastdave

          I’ll give you a good Amen to that!

          Nagy is here to install a modern era offense.

          Pace gave Fangio his first pick.

          Pace gave Nagy his second pick.

        • The O drastically improved by simply dumping Fox.

          C/OGs are a dime a dozen.

          OLBs who rack up 16.5 sacks in one season aren’t.

  • leftcoastdave

    Nagy wanted a C who could QB the line.

    He knows what they got. He wanted him and he took him.

    • willbest

      Now you are just spouting off nonsense.

      • leftcoastdave

        So you forget the bitching on this board over WH being moved around and f’in up last year?
        You forget that Nagy is installing an new O with Trub who needs to be protected?
        You forget that da Bears now have HH there to evaluate and train O line?
        A ten year starter in the trenches at this time was a great pick.

        • willbest

          1) lots of people F’d up last year. Birdcage, GH, Glennon, Trubisky, all the WRs
          2) nothing to do with your statement
          3) Tice was supposedly a great O-line coach. Lets see it
          4) TBD

          • leftcoastdave

            Only Alabama and Wisconsin (17) had more O linemen drafted into the NFL than Iowa with 16.

            “Whenever you’re watching Iowa offensive linemen, you know you’re going
            to get a technique-proficient guy,” NFL Network draft analyst Mike
            Mayock said. “That is what it is with James Daniels. A big, square dude,
            can coach very well. The Kirk Ferentz tree of offensive line coaches is
            phenomenal. So I know what I’m going to get when I get an offensive
            lineman from Iowa.

            https://www.landof10.com/iowa/iowa-football-james-daniels-iowa-chicago-bears-2018-nfl-draft

    • Irish Sweetness

      And he totally overpaid for it, with defensive game-changers on the board.

  • BerwynBomber

    Hate to say it, helluva pick by the Cheese.
    I fucking loved Jackson.

    • They got Pace to sign their contract, then went and drafted two CBs who will cost less and might be better than Fuller.

      Somehow I feel like GB trolled Pace.

      • ButtonShoes

        Oh they did and they know it.

  • Josh Jackson to GB.

    Awesome, Pace.

    • John F

      Pack just fixed their biggest defensive problems in round 1 and 2 and got a 2019 first rounder to boot ……..

      • willbest

        Yeah Packers new GM isn’t messing around.

        • Can we trade Pace to them for a 3rd?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Quit your damn whining. jeez.

          • I already said I was gonna be mad if Landry was there and he didn’t draft him.

            The ONLY guy I would’ve been mad over.

            And, yup, he did it.

            And not even for Josh Jackson, or Oliver, or whatever, but for a C to make up for his Grasu clusterfuck (after cutting Sitton for nothing).

            I can be mad all I want.

          • SC Dave

            His whining is less tedious than your trolling.

          • Irish Sweetness

            The third we don’t have because of him …

          • leftcoastdave

            Does anyone have some cheese to serve up with all the whine?

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah, I’m a little concerned by what the Cheese did. If they fixed their CB issues and Rodgers comes back healthy they can compete … big if’s but they may have upgraded at DC too by sending Capers to retirement and replacing him with Pettine.

    • Malice Halice

      R u fuckin kidding me?! Dayum! Glad we got great D

  • willbest

    For the record LCD,

    Whitehair
    Guard – 25 college starts at guard (fresh/sophmore year), 4 NFL starts
    Tackle – 27 college starts (junior/senior year; Rose Bowl senior year)
    Center – 28 NFL starts.

    And 2 of the games WH played guard were weeks 16 and 17 after Long and Sitton both died. Otherwise he would have 30 NFL starts as Center.

    In no universe can you state that WH natural position is guard.

    • BerwynBomber

      The pick baffled me BUT I generally trust Pace in the draft. So I’m willing to wait and see. For all we know Daniels is a 10 year stud.

      • willbest

        I don’t doubt he is a solid prospect. But LCD would be shouting the glories of the pick even if Pace had drafted a Punter.

      • Did you trust Pace when he drafted Grasu? I didn’t.

        Doesn’t mean I hate all his picks or think he’s a complete idiot, but these type of moves are exactly why we’re last in the division and makes me conclude he’s a mediocre GM at best.

    • leftcoastdave

      Really?

      In no universe can you say he is an NFL center except for the fact that he needed to step in there because Grassu was so bad.

      And was he really that good at C last year with flubbed snaps causing turnovers?

      • willbest

        I can say he is an NFL center because he would have played every single game in the NFL as a center to date if the guards had managed to stay healthy.

        And the reason he was put in center his rookie season is because Grasu had a season ending injury. Then he just flat out won the spot in his sophomore season. Probably because he was pretty good at it.

        • leftcoastdave

          He was best available and did OK with Sitton (who fell into da Bears lap) and Long. Now he will play a more natural position for him and he will excel with Daniels being a kick ass, knows how to call out the play, C from Iowa (an OL factory) who will anchor the center of the line for ten years.

          • willbest

            His natural position is Center. Its an objective fact. Its what he knows the best.

          • leftcoastdave

            Then I guess Daniels will play Guard.

            We shall see who is right.

          • willbest

            Or they will ask a man who has spent the last 2 years of his professional life honing his craft as a Center to play out of position.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            You act like he is was a Pro Bowl C. He wasn’t

          • willbest

            Hard to be a pro anything if you have to change your job every 2 years

          • Johnnywad

            Aren’t you a de facto pro if it’s your job?

          • Big Mike

            An O-lineman’s natural position is not necessarily where he has played the most. It’s a feel. Something only his position coach and the player truly know. I dont think Whitehair even played center in College.

          • willbest

            I listed all his starts in another post. 2 years at guard, 2 years at tackle, 2 years in the NFL at center. He played 4 NFL games at guard. All because of injuries to Long/Sitton

          • SC Dave

            Dont add facts ti these discussions, will

          • Big Mike

            Doesn’t matter, doesn’t change anything. At Kansas St, he was their best OL played RT, LG, RT and LT. His experience might make him a better C than G. But all things equal, he’d be a better G. His height alone is not an advantage at C. But it’s only a marginal disadvantage and there have been plenty of big Centers.

            Pace has said that Daniels will start at G and cross train at C. He loves having multiposition OL.

    • SC Dave

      FFS will, dont bring facts into this!

  • ButtonShoes

    Pace traded up with the Pats. What the hell did he give up to move this high?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Next year’s first.

      • ButtonShoes

        Probably.

  • Irish Sweetness

    David Akers hit them up on the plane. He hit the mini-bar. He had a few of his own ….

    • BerwynBomber

      I’m trying to figure out how I feel about mouthy kickers. On one hand, wanna pimp-slap’em. On the other, grudgingly admire the audacity.

      (To his credit Akers was a helluva K.)

  • Viva Dave Toub

    We’re on the clock!!!

  • ButtonShoes

    “Adam Schefter: Bears traded a 2019 second-round pick and a fourth-round pick this year for New England’s second-round pick this year, the 51st overall selection.”

    ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

  • leftcoastdave

    Yo, Pace, do it!

    • Irish Sweetness

      The kicker from Georgia?

  • leftcoastdave

    Traded Jordan Howard?

  • ButtonShoes

    EVERY FUCKING YEAR PACE FINDS A WAY TO SCREW UP

    NEVER FAILS

  • Irish Sweetness

    Arden Key gone?

    • ButtonShoes

      Nope. But we took Anthony Miller.

  • leftcoastdave

    Nooooo.

    But hey, what do I know?

  • Irish Sweetness

    Ho-leeee FUCK!!

    WHAT THE FUCK?????!!!!!!!! PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE!!!!

    • ButtonShoes

      I mean, at this point, I’m just counting the days until Pace gets fired.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        I really doubt you can count that high.

        • ButtonShoes

          You sure? 1, 2. That’s how many years at best that joker’s got before he’s out on his ass.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            You said days, not years.

          • ButtonShoes

            Oh, OK. 365-730 days, then.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Like I said I doubt you can count that high.

          • ButtonShoes

            Considering you’ve already made the mistake of thinking Pace is a good GM, I’m not too worried about you and your doubts.

          • willbest

            Pace has at least 3 years before he is fired.

          • ButtonShoes

            It would be Bears-like to hang onto someone like Pace 1 or 2 years longer than they should.

          • willbest

            He got a contract extension to put him on parity with Nagy. So they both go in 3 years (barring some Trestman shit show) or they get extended at that point.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Tee hee.

    • Big Mike

      You guys are a bunch of babies

    • evantonio

      Cock, or cuck?

    • SC Dave

      No, you’re not done.

  • leftcoastdave

    Nagy is here to install a modern era offense.

    Pace gave Fangio his first pick.

    Pace gave Nagy his second pick.

    And traded up to get him a receiver.

    • Irish Sweetness

      #$%%#^@!

      You’re trolling. You have to be.

      He fucking traded UP …. to get a 5’10 RECEIVER.

      NO PASS RUSH.

      • CanadaBear

        7th in sacks last year.

      • evantonio

        Do you remember what our offense was like last year?

  • Wait, so Pace lets his buddy steal Meredith from us, then gives away our 2nd and 4rth for a midget WR to replace him in the 2nd?

    Am I drunk? In what universe does this make any sense.

    Whatevs. Fuck it.

    Where’s that jacuzzi at…

    • ButtonShoes

      Since when does Pace do ANYTHING that makes any kind of goddamn sense? Yesterday may have been the only time.

    • willbest

      wait we gave away next year’s second?

      • ButtonShoes

        YUP.

      • Irish Sweetness

        unfuckingbelievable.

    • Irish Sweetness

      And Sitton …. and Slauson ….

    • BerwynBomber

      Well, give yourself credit. So far you’re still handling things better than MB did last year after we passed on Adams.

      • SC Dave

        Lol

    • Big Mike

      Consensus is A+ pick by bears for the WR. Also an A for the C/G. Both graded as 1st RD talent. I like the picks.

      • AlbertInTucson

        You mean, the sky ISN’T falling?

        • Big Mike

          The over reaction here is strong.

          • willbest

            Yes both in doom and gloom and excessive homerism.

          • leftcoastdave

            And nothing exceeds like excess.

            Pace is playing to win this year.

          • willbest

            I don’t recall any period between 2015-2017 where Pace said “Bears fans need to lower their expectations and be patient. Its going to be a bad year this year while we get younger”

          • leftcoastdave

            Did you spend much time waiting to hear that?

          • SC Dave

            Moreso the latter, IMO

          • AlbertInTucson

            Ya think?

      • Joecashflow

        3 starters. Miller will be WR2.

        • willbest

          While WRs are more polished then they have been in recent years, it is unlikely that this guy is going to surpass Gabriel in his rookie year or he would have been drafted day one. And yes Garbriel looks to spend some time in the slot, but its likely they are going to want him lining up in a variety of places.

          I do expect him to beat out White though, and get significant playing time as the #3 WR option.

      • SC Dave

        Consensus of whom, exactly?

        • Big Mike

          The 2 places I looked… ha!!!!!

          • leftcoastdave

            Yea, and I can be the third!

          • Big Mike

            See unanimous…!!

          • SC Dave

            You should join the climate change mongers.

          • Big Mike

            I don’t get the reference. I don’t mean to step out of the topic, but climate change is real. The only question that is debated is humanities impact on it. I don’t know the details, but what I have read is that 95%+ of all climate scientists believe that people have accelerated the rate of change dramatically. I also read that 5% of climate scientist that don’t think mankind has contributed base their thinking on research that the author has repeatedly stated is flawed.

            When 95% of people who are experts on a complex topic agree, I tend to go with that argument. The scientific method requires constantly challenging the status quo, so hats off to those 5% if they really believe their theories have merit.

        • Big Mike

          So now it’s up to 3. CBS Sports, Pete Prisco and @leftcoastdave a tsunami of experts

  • willbest

    5’11” 201. Irish is going to have a stroke.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      At least he is black.

    • Irish Sweetness

      5’10.

      • ButtonShoes

        5′ FUCKING 10″?! WHAT IN THE EVERLIVING FUCK

        • AlbertInTucson

          Or, just as tall or taller than ODB or Antonio Brown.

      • Johnnywad

        He’s 5’-11”. Or and inch taller and 20 pounds heavier than Antonio Brown. So let’s no just immediately cut the kid from the roster because he’s 5’-11”. How about we wait and watch him play football first?

        • AlbertInTucson

          ODB is also 5’11’.

    • Malice Halice

      The kid caught the ball AND the DB’s arm in his highlight reel! Dis kid a BEAST

      • SC Dave

        That’s two more things than kevin white can catch

  • Irish Sweetness

    I should have known Pace would hang us the first day I saw him. To young. Too preppie. Full of shit.

    • ButtonShoes

      When this all blows up, it’s going to be awesomely terrible.

  • willbest

    Does he project as Steve Smith Sr?

    • Malice Halice

      After watchin his vids I’d say so. His arm strength is amazing! He damn near broke dude arm with his catch!

      • BenderMcLugh

        Apparently he’s a scrappy fighter and they must love the kid

    • For a 2nd and a 4rth, he better be.

      • willbest

        Its next year’s second and we are winning the SB so its basically a 3rd

    • ButtonShoes

      Apparently he has a tendency to bobble his catches. So…yeah. We’re fucked.

  • leftcoastdave

    Here’s what matters:

    Only Alabama and Wisconsin (17) had more O linemen drafted into the NFL than Iowa with 16. (since 2000)

    “Whenever you’re watching Iowa offensive linemen, you know you’re going
    to get a technique-proficient guy,” NFL Network draft analyst Mike
    Mayock said. “That is what it is with James Daniels. A big, square dude,
    can coach very well. The Kirk Ferentz tree of offensive line coaches is
    phenomenal. So I know what I’m going to get when I get an offensive
    lineman from Iowa.

    https://www.landof10.com/iowa/iowa-football-james-daniels-iowa-chicago-bears-2018-nfl-draft

    • willbest

      It actually doesn’t. At all.

  • leftcoastdave

    The Bears traded a 2019 second-round pick and one of their fourth-round picks this year, No. 105 overall, for the Patriots’ second-round pick, the 51st overall selection.

    Mel Kiper Jr. called Miller the most underrated offensive player in this draft.

    “Ilove his production, love his chip on his shoulder because he was a
    former walk-on,” Kiper said. “He’s got everything you (want): route
    running, he’ll block, he tracks the deep ball very effectively.”

    • willbest

      The Pats gotta be thinking they are getting a top 40 pick next year.

      • ButtonShoes

        It’s not a bad bet on their part.

    • BenderMcLugh

      He’s a bit Anquin Boldin & a bit Steve Smith

    • BenderMcLugh

      He has all the traits I like in Deontay Burnett but beastly-er

  • leftcoastdave

    Enjoy the night boys, I’m out!

  • Malice Halice

    Steve Smith Sr da savage himself said height is overrated, Diggs only 2 inches taller n he’s quite productive. There’s TOO much speed on da field now. Very fast paced football

    • willbest

      I don’t really care, but I guess my concern is, Pace had to be rather high on this guy to sell off next year’s second.

      • Malice Halice

        I hear ya.

      • Big Mike

        This year’s 2nd for next year’s and a 4th round pick tossed in. Not that expensive if they live the guy.

        • willbest

          Its a pretty steep price. Not only are they missing out on next year’s second, It limits their ability to trade up in the first next year too. And of course, and even if we improve to 8-8 the Pats improve on the pick location delaying a year as well.

          • leftcoastdave

            Considered the equivalent of a 3 and 4. For a first. Nagy wanted the guy to come into NFC North and make a statement. Pace has been making a statement.

            The future is now.

          • willbest

            Next year’s 2nd isn’t a 3rd. Its Next year’s is 2nd. In each draft there are player tiers. The first tier is a handful of guys around 10ish. The next tier breaks around 50. So a 2nd that falls within that tier is a lot better than a 2nd that falls outside of it.

            Since it is a good bet that we aren’t making the playoffs next year, ours is likely to be the more valuable 2nd.

            That doesn’t make it a bad trade though. But it objectively limits our flexibility next year.

          • leftcoastdave

            Ok, Pace is resorting to deficit spending to make the team as good as he can this year.

            What, are you Keynesian, a supply sider or balanced budget hawk?

          • willbest

            We are not in win now mode. So if that is what Pace is doing then he is an awful GM.

            If however, he had this WR as a top 40 talent that he could pick this year for a 45ish pick next year and some change, then its a prudent investment.

          • leftcoastdave

            Well, I don’t know about the peeps in your “we,” but Pace, Nagy, Fangio and my peeps all say we are in “win now mode” this year and going to the playoffs.

          • willbest

            Would you expect them to tell you any different?

          • leftcoastdave

            It’s not a matter of talking, it is a matter of doing.

            Signing talent in FA.

            Drafting at your pick and even trading up.

            It’s a new era in Chicago and they are working to prove that.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I have to hand it to you, dave. You could do larry mayer’s job. Keep it positive.

          • leftcoastdave

            Irish, how can you be otherwise?

            Nagy is here for a reason. Points on the board. And he brings on the dude with the most freakishly forward college offense from Oregon. And we’ve got the greatest o-line coach.

            They hired in FA and paid good money to a) launch the new O, and b) give Fangio what he needed to keep the great dbacks we had last year. Now the first pick goes to the highest rated LB coming out of college. The one who can play to-day, not be developed for the future.

            It ain’t over, but Nagy just anchored his line and added the receiver he liked to implement this O. Biscuit is protected, Jordan Howard gets the peeps who can zone block the shit out of the D which is no longer stacked, but spread.

            10-6 is the floor.

          • Big Mike

            In his news conference Pace stated they were shocked that he was available. They swapped this year’s second for next year’s and tossed in a 4th as juice. I’d rather have the guy on the field that I want now, than worry about next year’s possible trade ups. I love the trade. I wish we had an Edge Rusher and a CB too. But instead we got an OG with a first round grade who is only 20 years old. He has great feet, low natural pad level, plays with leverage, thick lower half and 2-3 years of relatively easy physical development. We also have an OL coach who really wanted James Daniel. So that’s just a phenomenal pick. The WR.. I don’t know much about WRs.. but I’ve not seen a single report saying this wasn’t a great pick. I’ve looked at a 6 or 7 sources this AM with coffee.

        • SC Dave

          He’s certainly cocky enough

          • Big Mike

            Most good WR’s are. Some are quiet, most are vocal, then you have the selfish, constantly needing attention guys. Our new guy sounds like he’s not over the top. Getting pinballed around by some NFL Strong Safeties will tone him down a bit.

            Nagy has a poster in Halas Hall it says “you be you”.

  • BerwynBomber

    ATL picks Oliver. I liked him too.

    But we should be solid at CB with Fuller, Prince and Callahan.

    • Malice Halice

      We still got FA, Breeland?

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah, who knows. Could happen.

        But remember Pace re-signed all three guys I mentioned this off-season. So he might feel as if he shot his wad on CB already. At least in terms of any sizable FA moves or high end draft picks.

    • Big Mike

      They also needed OL and WR. Only so many picks.

  • willbest

    Just looking over what the Browns of have been doing, it looks like even they might have a difficult time being Brownies this year. But I have faith they will pull it off

  • Big Mike

    Daniels was perhaps the most impressive lineman at the NFL combine in early March. Daniels finished first in the 20-yard shuttle (4.40 seconds), second in the 3-cone drill (7.29 seconds), sixth in the vertical jump (30.5 inches) and 10th in the broad jump (108 inches). That performance has translated in meetings with several NFL officials and scouts. It’s also led to compliments from those same evaluators.

    “They’ve said I’m just very athletic,” Daniels said. “We do that [reach block] a lot at Iowa, so I have to be good at the outside zone and with reach blocks. Otherwise, I wouldn’t have been able to even play at Iowa.

    • BerwynBomber

      I liked the D talent that was still on the board but OL makes sense.

      Pace got Fangio his new Patrick Willis in the first round. Now it is about giving Bisky everything he needs to succeed.

      • SC Dave

        Glad you’re optimistic, BB. I hope Smith is as good a Kuechly. But its a high bar.

      • Big Mike

        I really needed to read a response like that. The villagers were heading to the square with torches. Edge is a weakness still. Not going to get a lot of help on day 3. I hope there is someone they really really like at Edge (second round grade or something like that ) and they just trade 5 and 6 (this years) to go get that guy. Or a CB. Now that I typed that, I think there is probably a better likelihood of finding an CB than an Edge rusher. But who knows. Defense was good last year. Are we worse off right now? They did add that Lynch guy. Best case scenario, defense is as good as last year and Offense actually fields a team.

  • BuddhaJoe

    So we got a promising looking wr and never have to see Grassu again? Not bad.

    • evantonio

      They’re actually moving Grasu to LT. So there’s that…

      • CanadaBear

        I’m sure that will be a rousing success story!

        • SC Dave

          How many 300 pound roller derby stars have you seen?

          • Johnnywad

            Male or female?

          • leftcoastdave

            Well not that big tall blond one, but that chunkier brunette might have qualified. But she still skated forward, not backward like Grassu.

          • CanadaBear

            Joanie Weston!

        • Doc Nitty

          Oh Canada!

          Might you be able to make this for a night?

          http://SummerMeltdownFest.com

          • CanadaBear

            The only day I could make would be Sunday. The bike ride ends Saturday.

      • BuddhaJoe

        Don’t even joke about that shit, they might be listening.

        • leftcoastdave

          He’s been traded to the Brooklyn Bombers rollerblading team. He’s the first guy on the team and so the league will make him skate backward.
          And they think he has no experience doing that!

  • willbest

    Looks like Jeff really did go to bed early and missed the odd development.

    • He’ll wake up, down a Guinness, then tell us all how this is the greatest two picks in Bears history.

    • BerwynBomber

      His Peanut orgasm took him out.

  • Johnnywad

    Last week my hope was that Pace would go Pass Rush, OL, WR in that order. I’ll take it. Smith isn’t an edge rusher, but he’s a hell of an LB. Rest of it looks good.

    So far so good.

  • Well, I’m gonna get wasted instead of bitching more.

    Pace Glennon’ed the draft.

    That is all.

    • leftcoastdave

      You might reconsider that opinion if Nagy starts putting up 42 points per year.

      Ok, that might be a tad optimistic.

      • willbest

        Dec. 9, 2013. Last time Bears scored more than 40 points

        • leftcoastdave

          About time that changed.

      • SC Dave

        42 points per year would be totally brutal.

        • leftcoastdave

          Yup.

    • Johnnywad

      By taking well proven players at positions of need that are all ranked highly by pretty much every source?

      • willbest

        I am not on board the Irish train, but you have to be concerned with this defense hitting the QB. Only 1 player registered more than 5 sacks and only 4 more than 3, and two of those aren’t on the team any more.

        Now you can find diamonds in the rough on day 3, but it is far more likely you are just going to get depth JAG, which means your Pass Rush for 2018 is Hicks, Floyd, Lynch, and … Acho.

        • leftcoastdave

          They also drafted a guy named Smith yesterday.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Just as well I like Acho…

        • Johnnywad

          I’m not concerned about the Bears Defense at all. Their opponents averaged 19 points a game last year. And only 18 the second half of the season when Floyd was injured, Trevathan was injured and Hicks was supposedly gassed. That includes games against the Falcons, Eagles, Saints, and two against the Vikings. They just added what might well be the best linebacker in the draft and brought back the DC.

          So no. I’m not at all concerned about the D. It should be sound.

          Damn near this entire board lost their shit over last year’s wide receivers. And most went nuts when the Bears parted ways with Sitton. So Pace grabs what should be a very good Center/Guard and moves up to grab a Wide Receiver after grabbing Robinson, Gabriel and Burton in FA.

          And this place goes sour.

          I don’t get it.

          Bunch of whining pussies.

          • evantonio

            i’d like to subscribe to your newsletter.

          • leftcoastdave

            “Don’t need no newsletter to know the way the wind’s blowin'”

            With apologies to Bobby Zimmerman.

        • SC Dave

          Pace has the new Richard Dent up his sleeve, right?

          • AlbertInTucson

            I wonder how many first round busts a 9th round Hall of Famer cancels out?

      • Irish Sweetness

        Ooh …. Sources!

        • Johnnywad

          Ok. By people that know about the football.

          • leftcoastdave

            As opposed to the nattering nabobs of negativity.

  • leftcoastdave

    A kid you want playing for you:

    He was surprised to be drafted by the
    Bears, but grateful. And he was especially appreciative that the Bears
    made such a big move to get him.

    “It means a lot. It shows they really
    wanted me,” Miller said. “They believed in me. I’m gonna prove everybody
    who passed me up wrong. The Bears are gonna get all I got. They’re
    going to get the Memphis Grind. I don’t think they’ve seen that yet. But
    I’m going to introduce them to it.”

    The Memphis Grind? “This area, there’s
    not a lot going on around here,” Miller said. “People have got to work
    for everything they’ve got. In order to get respect … you’ve got to
    grind for it. I believe I get a lot of respect around here because I
    didn’t ask for any handouts. I just came to work every day and put it
    in. It’s all paying off for me.”

    Miller said he prefers to play in the
    slot, but won’t be picky. “I don’t think any safety or linebacker in the
    league is capable of holding me, especially with a quarterback like
    Mitch Trubisky,” he said. “I believe we’re going to tear it up wherever
    they put me.”

    Miller, who ran a 4.48 40 and had a
    39-inch vertical at his pro day, is a multi-faceted receiver who can
    catch-and-go and make the tough catch downfield. He has been compared to
    Steelers’ All-Pro receiver Antonio Brown and Packers receiver Randall
    Cobb — and also the Bears’ Kendall Wright.

    But he certainly has big-play capability.
    Miller had six games of 144 receiving yards or more last season,
    including 15-224 and four touchdowns at UConn; 9-185 against UCLA;
    10-178 against Houston, when the Tigers rallied from a 17-0 halftime
    deficit to win 42-38; and 14-195 and three touchdowns in a 62-55 loss to
    unbeaten Central Florida.

    “I don’t want to be compared to anyone,”
    he said. “I believe I have attributes and skills that a lot of players
    could say they have, but I don’t think there’s one thing that I can’t
    do. I believe I’m just a different type of receiver all in one — and
    some day guys are going to be like, ‘Oh, you play like Anthony Miller’
    because I believe I’m a one-of-a-kind type of guy.”

    • evantonio

      isn’t a 4.48 kinda slow?

      • leftcoastdave

        Read the press. They all love this kid. CBS gave it an A+.

        He’s a baller, not a princess.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Glad CBS are happy.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Antonio Brown. 4.47.

        • evantonio

          So kinda slower than Brown. Like I said. 🙂

      • AlbertInTucson

        I think it IS kinda slow.

        If you happen to be a cheetah.

        • evantonio

          I was under the impression 4.4 was fast. That’s why Kevin White’s 4.3something was blazing. But apparently I’m wrong.

      • CanadaBear

        I think it’s his route running that set him apart.

  • leftcoastdave

    Johns on Daniels:

    “Harry Hiestand — widely considered one of the preeminent offensive
    line coaches at any level — was an invaluable part of the Bears’
    evaluations this year. He previously coached guard Quenton Nelson (No.
    6, Colts) and tackle Mike McGlinchey (No. 9, Cardinals) at Notre Dame.

    “[The Bears] liked me, I liked them and the things fell in place for them to pick me up,” Daniels said.

    In Daniels, the Bears drafted an athletic and powerful player who is
    an ideal fit for coach Matt Nagy’s zone running scheme. His arrival
    allows the Bears to shift Cody Whitehair to left guard, though the team
    values the versatility of both players.”

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/meet-james-daniels-athletic-center-pumped-to-protect-bears-qb-mitch-trubisky/

    • AlbertInTucson

      While The Cardinals could certainly USE McGlinchy, he was drafted by the 49ers.

  • leftcoastdave
    • KentuckyBearsFan

      sounds like a plan.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Half an hour away from a hernia op. This is it you homos!

    If Pace drafts a receiver or QB tomorrow … Aw shit, can they fuck up a hernia? Damn, these nurses are all fine as. Nurses are great.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Hope it alll goes well.

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        yes.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Any chance they can do this as a laparoscopic procedure?

    • beninnorcal

      Good luck, Irish

    • CanadaBear

      Good luck my friend. And yes, nurses are indeed the best!

  • KentuckyBearsFan

    Bears offense should average 25 points a game next year.

    With new wide receivers and Howard having room to run.

  • AlbertInTucson

    For what it’s worth…

    NFL Net’s Charlie Casserly blessed the Bears draft and said Roquan Smith was his pick for Defensive Rookie Of The Year.

    Dick Butkus retired after the 1973 season.
    In the ‘74 draft, the Bears used the 4th overall pick to draft Waymond Bryant from Tennessee State, ostensibly to fill the MLB position.
    Bryant was the first LB taken. He played 13 games in 1974, starting only 8. Before the end of of his second season he had been moved to the outside. His career lasted 4 seasons and 53 games as he took his place in the pantheon of Bears first round busts.

    The linebacker of note that went to Denver later in that draft was Randy Gradishar.

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