Final Thoughts on the 2017 NFL Season

| February 12th, 2018

The season has been over more than a week so I thought I’d throw a bunch of thoughts on the entire league into one semi-coherent post.

(1) It was a bad season for the NFL and it all stems from mismanagement at the top. The fallout from injuries/head trauma, player protests, rules issues…etc. were manageable and fixable. But Roger Goodell once again showed himself to be the most flaccidly ineffective commissioner in the history of professional sports.

(2) The “catch rule” has been the mostly thoroughly debated issue in the NFL and the Super Bowl seemed to be a turning point for its legislation, with two touchdowns actually being ruled touchdowns. (This despite the utter confusion of the commentary box, where Michaels and Collinsworth acted like they were asked to call a three-day test cricket match on forty minutes notice.) Possession. Two feet down. That’s it. If you have possession of the ball and two feet on the ground, you have caught the ball. For the first time in a long time, it feels the NFL is headed back in that direction.

(3) Ryan Pace took over the GM job in Chicago prior to the 2014 season.

  • His first year? Low expectations.
  • His second year? Three quarterbacks played, one of whom was benched for C.J. Beathard in 2017 and another didn’t approach an active roster.
  • Year three featured the drafting a quarterback with the second pick and nobody should put win/loss expectation on a rookie quarterback.

Now we enter year four. Pace has his coach. Pace has his QB. And if the latter stays healthy, the Bears should be expected to win games in 2018.

(4) I saw who won the Super Bowl. I did. But I think if Marcus Williams makes a tackle, Sean Payton and Drew Brees get their second title and cement their legacy in the league. Imagine being Payton and Brees twenty years from now, seeing the clip of that play, and just wanting to go out in the yard and fire bullets into the woods.

(5)  Keep hearing Kirk Cousins to the Jets. But the best match for Cousins, his demeanor, the chip on his shoulder, is Buffalo. That city would love him.

(6) I think the Rams will finish third in the NFC West next season and miss the playoffs. And I think the bloom is going to be fired off the Sean McVay rose with a canon. They exploited an awful schedule in 2017. Their rise is overstated.

(7) One of the most important signings in the league this off-season will be Houston’s backup quarterback. And if I were Brian Gaine and Bill O’Brien, I’m waiting to see how things shake out in Minnesota. Deshaun Watson isn’t playing sixteen games. They need to find someone who can keep the team afloat for six. Sam Bradford is perfect. He’s only got six good ones in him.

(8) Amazing stat this season. Outside of Brett Hundley and the Packers, there wasn’t a another NFC team that finished the 2017 season on more than a one-game losing streak. The AFC, by comparison, had 7. The NFC is very, very good right now and I don’t see that changing over the next few seasons. If the Bears want to be in the playoffs next season, beat Detroit, Minnesota and Green Bay.

(9) It would take arguably the boldest move in NFL history but if I ran the Eagles, I’d ask the Cleveland Browns if they’d give up the 1st and 4th pick for Carson Wentz.

If they said yes – and they should – the deal gets done. Windows are short in the NFL. And the Eagles just proved they can win it all with Nick Foles. They proved it! It’s proven! Foles was incredible in the two biggest games of his life – two games there’s no guarantee Wentz will ever get to!

Imagine how much better this team could be in 2018 with the players they either acquired with those picks or the windfall of picks that came from dealing out of those prime positions. Instead they are two years away from making Wentz the highest-paid QB in the league and we’ve seen how that story ends.

(10) Bears need more pass rush. But if you watched the Super Bowl you know EVERYBODY needs more pass rush. That was the worst pass rushing effort in Super Bowl history but the game was decided by one moment of pass-rushing brilliance.

(11) Which Minnesota Vikings defense do we remember from 2017? They were the league’s best for 66 quarters. They were awful their final 6, against their best opponents, when it mattered most. The end of their season will sting at the start of 2018.

(12) There are currently ten NFL teams that can’t definitely answer the question, “Who will be your quarterback for the 2018 opener?” That’s a third of the league. And that’s wild.

(13) Team I think was a bit underrated this season: LA Chargers. Here are the point differentials for all the teams that finished 9-7.

  • Ravens +92
  • Chargers +83
  • Seahawks +34
  • Lions +34
  • Cowboys +22
  • Titans -22 (playoff team)
  • Bills -57 (playoff team)

The Ravens should have been in the postseason but they somehow blew their finale to Cincinnati. The Chargers were then nearly 50 points better than the next 9-7 club. That should have been a playoff team. And they would have made waves. And with that young collection of pass rushers, they’ll be back in 2018.

(14) The end of season awards were fine with two exceptions. These should be changed after the postseason.

  • Assistant Coach: John DeFilippo, Eagles. If this were a regular season prize it’d be a layup for Pat Shurmur but Nick Foles’ final two performances cement the award for Flip – a future head coach in the league.
  • Coach: Doug Pederson, Eagles. Doesn’t it seem laughable now that Sean McVay was named 2017’s best coach? Will anybody remember what the Rams did if they don’t back it up next season? Pederson capped off a remarkable 2017 with one of the best-called Super Bowls in history.

(15) Sometimes I laugh when I remember Marvin Lewis is going to be the coach of the Bengals again. John Fox beat Lewis by like 75 points in December.

(16) Bears 2018 record: 9-7.

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  • SC Dave

    I would have put (2) first, but it’s a good list, Jeff.

  • BearDown100393

    “The fallout from injuries/head trauma, player protests, rules issues…etc. were manageable and fixable.”

    Oh please elaborate on your plan for all our benefit.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      NFL has been reactive not proactive with most issues. And when it comes to players, they are stuck in an adversarial stance. Everything is a battle. Goodell and the NFL would benefit greatly to take a page out of the NBA handbook and work with players instead of against players. The whole protest issue could have been dealt with almost immediately if they reached out to players at the beginning instead of letting it gain steam in the media.

      • BearDown100393


        Roger would have done himself a favor consulting privately with Adam.

  • KentuckyBearsFan

    Pace is just pacing himself.

    Year 4: Playoffs.

    Year 5: Super Bowl

    Year 6: Super-Duper Bowl

    Year 7 is a contract year in 2021. I’m expecting a war against A.I. Aliens. I’m not betting on this one because I think Pace will be one foot out the door changing sides because the McCaskeys refused to give him absolute power on the Final 53-million soldiers. He’ll sign with the android aliens and immediately sign General Glennon to a $1 trillion, three-planet contract. Making everyone wonder if this was his plan all along.

    Traitor bastard.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      sounds about right.

    • BearDown100393

      Planet of the Giraffes

      A tipped over Brian Urlacher statue discovered half-submerged in Monroe Harbor.

      A defiant fist pounded into the sand.

      Damn you all to hell……

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Does the Urlacher statue have hair?

        • Sactowns#1

          It’s just felt, like the origina GI joe figures.

          • SC Dave

            The *original* GI Joe did not have felt hair. Those came later.

        • I now want a chia pet Lach to put next to my Obama one.

  • CanadaBear

    I think Gary Bettman might have something to say about shitty commissioners.

    • BearDown100393

      He has the distinction of breaking the unions of two professional sports leagues into submission of a salary cap. And for the NHL owners, he will have a job for life.

    • DaBearsBlog

      I give Bettman some credit. Winter Classic and the NBCSN deal are huge boons for the sport.

      • CanadaBear

        The Winter Classic for sure. Really late to the party for national coverage in the US.

  • Piggybacking on #11, same thing with Jacksonville. They get shredded against both PIT and NE. All of a sudden the league’s best pass defense was swiss cheese. The Steelers and Pats combined to go 64/97 (66%) for 779 yards (8 yards per attempt) with 7 TD, 1 INT, and a 100 passer rating.

    • SC Dave

      Since you like to quote numbers, how about these?

      Pittsburgh – 58 pass attempts, 0 offensive holding
      New England – 38 pass attempts, 0 offensive holding, 2 DPI for 68 yards

      With NE, that was of course expected. In the 2017 playoffs, Tom Brady threw 139 passes. The Patriots were called for 0 offensive holding penalties.

      Maybe Jeff should have put that in his list.

      • Scharfinator

        Ratings are king. That’s all there is to it.

      • in general, refs don’t like to throw flags in the playoffs. They don’t want to be the deciding factor.

        I just wish regular season vs. playoff officiating was consistent. Same issue in NBA and college basketball. You get the to postseason and the whole style changes because the refs swallow their whistles.

        • SC Dave

          Don’t you think 140 throws with ZERO holding calls is a bit overboard? No wonder there was no pass pressure.

          I suggest that NEVER calling a hold was potentially every bit as much a deciding factor as a holding call or two would have been.

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      • Ah, should’ve read down.

        Totally agree.

        On the flip side, they tend to let CBs bump more as long as it’s not flagrant.

  • That’s a great point about the NFC, and it starts with the QBs.

    NFC: Wentz, Dak, Smith, Eli, Stafford, Rodgers, Trubisky, Brees, Cam, Ryan, Winston, Goff, Wilson, Jimmy G. The only teams with a serious question at QB are Minnesota and Arizona (and MIN is fine if they re-sign Keenum).

    AFC: Brady, Tannehill, Ben, Flacco, Dalton, Mariota, Luck, Watson, Mahomes, Rivers, Carr. There are many more teams with QB questions: Buffalo, NYJ, CLE, JAX, DEN (and you could add in IND and MIA due to injury concerns with their guys).

    Then look at where the top QBs are: AFC has Brady and Ben, who are 40 and 36, respectively. If you ranked the top 10 QBs in the NFL, the only other AFC representative would probably be Rivers, who’s 36. The others might all be from the NFC: Rodgers (34), Brees (39), Ryan (33), Wilson (29), Cam (29), Stafford (30), then you get down to a debate about Watson, Mariota, Goff, Wentz, and maybe Jimmy G for relatively unproven young guy who gets that last spot.

    NFC has more good QBs and more great ones, and their guys are younger too.

    • It’s interesting to look at this for the future. Looking at the young crop of QBs coming up in both leagues:

      NFC: Wentz, Dak, Trubisky, Winston, Goff, Jimmy G
      AFC: Mariota, Watson, Mahomes, Carr

      Have to figure CLE is adding a young guy to that list for the AFC this year, likely NYJ too.

      • CanadaBear

        It will be interesting to see what Watson’s game looks like when he comes back. If he doesn’t learn some self preservation skills, he’s going to have a short career.

      • antityco

        Interesting list. I’m not at all sold on Winston, however.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Why not? He threw for all those yards, and won all those games…. oh wait… nevermind.

        • Yeah, not all of these guys are proven studs. But they’re at least teams who are set for QB in 2018.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I read that CLE should draft QBs at 2 and 5 :o)

    • CanadaBear

      Once you get past Brady and Ben, nobody really takes your breath away. Not that some of the younger ones can’t/won’t step up but they could also step down.

    • BearDown100393

      Alex Smith is not terrible.

    • willbest

      I can’t believe Foster was 31. The list was created before the domestic violence charges at which point he was an absolute beast.

    • willbest

      I don’t buy for a second somebody takes Fournette over Kamara

      • That would be interesting.
        Kamara had a great yr, but I think he gets dinged because he’s not a true 3 down back, unlike Fournette.

        Kamra and Ingram basically split the carries.

      • SC Dave

        Oh I do. The best pick in the draft tho, IMO, was Kareem Hunt.

        • willbest

          The best pick in the draft based solely on his rookie season is Lattimore. One, high quality, NFL ready RB’s are all over the place. Two, any competent back can be a top 10 RB running behind a top 5 o-line. Getting somebody to cover #1 WRs for 4-5 seconds on the regular, is hard to find.

          • Agree. LaVarious White had a helluva rookie season at CB too.

            Garrett didn’t exactly light it up.

            Watson looked like a sure fire ROY tho until he got INJ, and franchise QBs are harder to come by than anything else.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I still think Trubs should have sat. We’d be drafting Saquon Barkley now.

  • willbest

    Chargers always seem to start their year spotting the rest of the AFCW 5-6 games for some reason.

  • 1. Goodell got extended, right? Owners don’t care that he gets booed every time he appears in the draft.
    Only 3 things all americans agree on: 1. Isis must die. 2. Goodell sucks. 3. Steven Segal is a douche.

    2. “If you have possession of the ball and two feet on the ground, you have caught the ball” ahhh, flashbacks of philo reductio…what is a catch? possession. What is possession? Ball can’t move. What if it “wiggles” an inch ? How many seconds does it require?…absurdum…

    3. “His second year? Three quarterbacks played, one of whom was benched for
    C.J. Beathard in 2017 and another didn’t approach an active roster.” Hmmm, I’m sure Jeff is missing a QB there…I wonder who and why the glaring omission?

    4. The Aints are like Apollo Creed. Talented, but a bit flashy and showtime. The Pats are like Drago. We all saw the results in Rocky IV

    5. Cousins should go to the Donks, but I think they’re in cap hell. Cousins mentioned the Vikes, so the answer to who the Vike’s QB is not Keenum, Bridewater or Bradford, but Cousins?

    6. Methinks Jeff doth protest too much. Keeping Fox for another yr and letting the Rams take McVay and Wade makes Pace look incompetent or impotent. Nagy and Trub can still bail him out though.

    7. Obrien always preferred the traditional QB. Could be Bradford, but isn’t Bradford contemplating retirement? A perfect fit – Tyrod Taylor

    8. Interesting, and why I expect the Bears to win 6ish games.

    9 Is Keenum better than Joe Flacco and Eli?
    If Philly is ok with 1 more SB in the next 20 yrs, go Keenum. If they want 2-3 more, keep Wentz

    10. The fact that the pass-rush disappeared points to a bigger issue – namely, the officials don’t call holding in the playoffs.

    Are we to believe that suddenly all the great defenses forgot how to pass rush in the playoffs, or that all the Olines suddenly became the Hogs?

    Or is it more likely that the refs let the teams “play” which means Oline holding and no pass rush?

    11. Vikes out schemed?

    12. Always QB shortage. That’s why they get paid ludicrously. Supply demand.

    13. Said it all season, if Chargers make the playoffs, they’ll cause damage. But their SB run was ended by one player. The KICKER. #KooKurse

    Pace should take notes.

    14. Agree on both counts. When Flip gains a better network to take with him in 2 yrs, we should hire him.

    15. I don’t think we can make fun of Lewis. At least he made the playoffs with the Bengals. Fox on the Bears? Worst winning pct of all coaches, and we’re the oldest team.

    • Sactowns#1

      The biggest issue is the development of high resolution slow mo. Now we can parse every play down to the nano second. I say all replays must utilize one of two betamax cameras down on the field. They have to have the ref come over, eject the tape, watch it and then put it in a car shaped rewinder when he’s done.

      • willbest

        I like my games to be over in a timely fashion. Put the replay ref on a clock. He has 45 seconds from the time he gets the green light to review. If he can’t overturn the field refs in that time, bzzt.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

        Like early 90’s scrambled Cable porn. You gotta squint.

        • Sactowns#1

          You gotta want it!

          • SC Dave


            Good one

    • SC Dave

      Your response to 10 was exactly what I was referring to in my note to JW. We are in lock-step agreement here.

      Why not allow defenses to have a level field in the playoffs?

    • Irish Sweetness

      I think the Steven Segal thing is #1.

  • John F

    Gotta take issue with #16 ……….. 9-7 is wildly optimistic. Lets take a look:

    Detroit Lions – maybe 1W and 1L
    Green Bay Packers – 2L’s
    Minnesota Vikings – 2L’s
    Los Angeles Rams – L
    Seattle Seahawks – L
    New England Patriots – L
    New York Jets – W (maybe)
    Tampa Bay Buccaneers – W (maybe)
    @ Arizona Cardinals – L
    @ San Francisco 49ers – W (maybe if Garappolo is hurt)
    @ Buffalo Bills – L
    @ Miami Dolphins – W (maybe)
    @ New York Giants – W (hopefully)

    Looks like 6-10 if everything goes ok as far as no significant injuries ……….

    • willbest

      WTF is this? Lets look at our starters

      Oline – Leno, Long/??, Whitehair, ??, Massie
      WRs – ??, Meredith, ??
      TEs – Shaheen, ??
      RBs – Howard, Cohen
      QBs – Trubisky

      Dline – Hicks, Goldman, ??, ??, ??
      LBs – Floyd, Trevethan, ??, ??, ??, ??
      CBs – ??, ??, ??
      S – Amos, Jackson

      K – ??
      P – ??
      LS – ??

      How in the hell can you project anything with that kind of information gap?

      • Who needs CBs?

        • willbest

          meh they are a complete luxury in the NFCN since their aren’t any QB’s that can really take advantage of incompetent CBs here.

      • John F

        You are right, 6-10 is probably too optimistic given all our needs ………

        • WR wouldn’t be an issue if Pace was able to re-sign Alshon.
          TE wouldn’t be an issue if Sims didn’t suck
          Dline wouldn’t be an issue if he decided on nearly anyone else beside Jaye Howard
          LB. Freeman a doper. McPhee broken down. Kwiat a JAG
          CB. Failed to sign Gilmore, Bouye and thus far extend Fuller
          S. Decent, except Demps who was slated to start
          K. Pace loved him some Barth
          P. See K.

          0 division wins.

          • leftcoastdave

            Yea, but think of all the money they will have to spend after cutting all the dead wood.
            Jaye Howard was worth a gamble. Bullard outplayed him until he hurt his arse.
            Sims coulda woulda shoulda. He’s gone.
            Demps was a great greyhair presence who got injured. Bye.
            Freeman, like so many others, followed the corporate motto of E. I. Dupont & Nemours, “better living through chemistry.”
            Fuller will get tagged if not signed.
            McPhee, bye bye.
            Kwik, an amazingly cheap backup.
            We shall see what Pace accomplishes in FA with Nagy and Fangio hopefully there to weigh in.

      • Irish Sweetness

        It hasn’t stopped anyone ever, Will!

        And with a pared down draft and general flaccidity in the FA market, it’s hard to know where the SB squad is coming from.

        • leftcoastdave

          One step at a time, Irish. Got to believe. First you become relevant and contend for the playoffs in the first year with a new system. Then you are a more attractive target for FAs the following year.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Just expect to lose every single year. And if you win something, rejoice!

    • AlbertInTucson

      There are ALWAYS, “significant injuries”.

      For virtually EVERY team.

      It’s just a matter of when.

      Predicting record based on the schedule is an exercise in self-gratification.

      The injury factor makes the NFL a week-to-week proposition each and every week.

  • Well, let’s do a social experiment. Did Corey Clement catch the ball?

    It was ruled a catch, and Pats fan swear it wasn’t

    If it was ruled an incomplete, Philly fans would swear it was a catch.

    In debate is that slight repositioning of the ball at the 42 second and 1:08 mark which by that time his 2nd foot was out of bounds.

    • willbest

      I don’t think it was a catch. I was shocked the NFL let that stand. The other one the Pats complain about was a catch and run

      • One can read the comments sections in that link and realize how convoluted the rule is, and how it can be interpreted as both. It’s like schrodinger’s cat – alive and dead.

        When a receiver becomes a runner is also a bit murky. Is it after 2 steps? Making a “football move”? What the heck is a football move?

        That rule played big too cuz Cooks got clocked on the head and was ruled out, but since he was deemed a runner, no flag, which would’ve kept the drive going for a likely score.

        • willbest

          The simple solution would be to just require that the process of the catch be completed in the field of play, and that control is defined by 0.5 seconds of continuous non-simultaneous possession of the ball. But the NFL likes those toe tap theatrics because they are fun to watch.

          • They can go two ways.

            The technical route, you propose.

            Or the “let em play and only overturn when obvious”

            They did the latter in the SB. If they apply that for the regular season, that should cut down on a lot of review crap.

      • SC Dave

        Curiously, the network never showed the reply when Philly stripped the ball from Amendola.

        • They also didn’t show Collinsworth blowing Brady at halftime, thankfully.

          • SC Dave

            Yeah, but you could hear the slurping.

      • AlbertInTucson

        ONE offensive penalty on against NE the entire post season.

        Nobody is THAT good.

    • Irish Sweetness

      No catch (by their rules). By the time he had control of it, there was only one foot on the ground and the next was OOB. But could give a smaller fuck and am glad.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “…if Marcus Williams makes a tackle…”




    If things were different, they wouldn’t be the same.

    Don’t go there.

    • leftcoastdave

      “If the dog didn’t stop to lift his leg, he would have caught the rabbit.”

      • AlbertInTucson

        And, of course, “ If your aunt had pair, she’d be your uncle.”.

  • Jokey

    2018 schedule is out, there will probably be a post on it soon.
    We are tied for 8th with Minnesota, because our 8 win delta (x2) is equal to the diff between Eagles/Giants (+10) plus Saints/Bucs (+6).

  • Malice Halice

    Every year I get more excited n pumped up for the offseason. Between Jackson n Ward alone I’m happy with one of those 2 coming to Chicago. If we could have one of those guys scrimmaging against the likes Landry or Watkins OH BOY that’s good practice. I’m hoping we lean on defense for this draft n pick up a wr late. Great post, I know Nola still got a salty taste in their mouth. What makes it worse is how the vikes got destroyed the following week. Underthing that was missed is that isn’t it 3 year straight the MVP losses the super bowl? Cam, Ryan, Brady?

    • I’ll get excited after FA.

      I want to believe Pace will finally stop being a tight wad (or worse, a bad spender – Glennon, Cooper, Sims, etc) that he’ll sign elite FAs at impact positions like the Jags and Donks did on their runs…but I’ll believe it when I see it.

      In the infamous wisdom of G.W. Bush: fool me once, shame on you, fool me can’t get fooled again…

      • Malice Halice

        I think elite players will be willing to play for us since we got a QB/coach figured out. So hopefully with that, Pace will be cashing out those potential guys. Regarding FA we mainly need a WR first n foremost right? Then some plugins on D. I don’t think this offseason is as bad as last year cuz we needed starters on almost every position including QB.

        • Bears desperately need many players.

          As of right now, I don’t think we have a single CB under contract.

          I also seriously question Pace’s salesmanship. He couldn’t close the deal with Alshon. He couldn’t sign others like Gilmore.

          This is what I see happening. Pace will fail to keep Fuller (unless tagged, Alshon route). He’ll keep Prince and sign another Cooper.

          Prince will get hurt because that’s what he does. That Cooper clone will suck, and Vadgers, Keenum, Brady, Jimmy G, Brees…will pick apart our leftovers.

          Hope I’m wrong, but that would be my bet.

          And needless to say, still need another WR, an OLB, an ILB and DE to go along with two CBs, so lots of holes to plug up.

          If Pace is aggressive in FA, then that’ll give him a lot of flexibility in the draft.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I’m feeling the CB draft in me waters ….

          • leftcoastdave

            Amen to that.

      • John F

        Bad spender is the much bigger problem, our pro player scouting must be terrible ………

        • Irish Sweetness

          Head shot. Back and to the left.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Wise words mate. Fool me … can’t get fooled again.

        • Yup. The same brain that thought Fox and Glennon were great ideas is also the same brain that skipped on Jimmy G , and Watson.

          Doesn’t bode well for Trub.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            That is just stupid. Kyle Shanahan came out and said that they inquired to trade for Jimmy G before the draft. And at that time Belichick said NO WAY. Watson was the 3rd QB off the board so he wasn’t anywhere close to the consensus top QB in the draft. Also if the Bears drafted him and he got injured with his history you would be roasting Pace for signing him.

          • Personally, I thought Trub was a better prospect than Watson. But I’m not getting paid millions to determine who’s a franchise QB and who’s the next Bortles.

            And we don’t know anything about Jimmy G and what exactly the Pats wanted or the dynamics anymore than we know if Lynch grifted Pace.

            There were some (like Sac) who wanted to go after Jimmy G aggressively. Lot of talk considering some alumni connection with Pace, but nothing materialized.

            Either way, Pace DID like Glennon. That wasn’t a smoke screen.

            Just like he wanted Cooper, Royal, Jaye Howard, Sims, Wheaton, etc

            His talent evaluation isn’t exactly sterling.

            Seems like 50/50, but him liking Glennon has to give one pause.

            It’s like your girlfriend’s ex serving life in prison.

            Gotta wonder about her decision making.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I will give you the Glennon signing, however everyone on here looked at the contract and knew there was an easy out when he did not pan out, that contract shouted bridge QB.

            There were multiple reports of teams trying to trade for Jimmy G, and Belichick was not biting. I think it is telling that he got traded for a 2nd rounder after the start of the season. It lends credence to the reports that Kraft stepped in and told him to trade him.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I’ll get excited when I see an offense that the worries other teams instead of just Bear fans.

    • leftcoastdave

      I’m with you bigly. We need to spend in FA and draft with the focus on the Monsters of the Midway being the goal.


      • Irish Sweetness

        Just pick up some of these …


        • leftcoastdave

          But seriously. This year we need only a little tweak or two to the O. Sign two guys from KC in Zach Fulton (C/G) and Albert Wilson (WR) and we are most of the way there.
          The D needs the focus, starting at CB, both in FA signings and I would argue the first round draft pick. I do not see anyone on the board more impactfull unless it is Trumaine Edmonds, somebody Butch has been talking about. Dude could be the kind of impact Irish could love.
          The D line is solid and could be improved, the S spot is finally solid, but the other 6 are were we need to pay attention with our top draft picks.

  • Malice Halice

    You guys got your vday plans figured out? I sure as heck don’t. Between getting a new car da Passat kick da bucket

  • willbest

    Darvish over Arrieta? If he were clearly better that would seem prudent, but I can’t help but feel a little lack of loyalty in this one. Not that there is much loyalty in baseball.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I would be concerned about the durability of either of those guys but, more so, Darvish.

    • BearDown100393

      Jake should go to a camp as a tightend.

  • Eh, it’s gonna be a slow day. Rand Paul actually makes a lot of sense talking about his filibuster and Afghanistan.

    I also agree with him wanting to audit the fed – which means he’ll be found dead of a mysterious hemorrhage soon (Irish, noooo!)

    For his presidential campaign, he has stated that he wants to audit the Federal Reserve. He said, “A complete and thorough audit of the Fed will finally allow the American people to know exactly how their money is being spent by Washington. For too long, the Fed has been operating under a cloak of secrecy. The American people have a right to know what the Federal Reserve is doing with our nation’s money supply.”[10]

    He also opposes the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 and the Federal Reserve’s control of the money supply and interest rates. He has advocated allowing the free market to regulate interest rates, and supports Congress’ constitutional role in controlling the money supply. Paul endorses the Federal Reserve Transparency Act, a bill, originally introduced by his father as HR 1207 and reintroduced in the 114th US Congress as S 264 (by Sen. Paul),[11] and as HR 24 (by Rep. Thomas Massie),[12] mandating an audit of the Federal Reserve.[13] – Wiki

    • willbest

      Why do you think his neighbor really went after him?

      • You know, I just watched Colbert interview him.

        Not only was he attacked by his neighbor, but Rand was also stabbed and shot at. WTF?
        He also was supposed to be on that train which was going to a Rep retreat but crashed and killed a politician or two…

        Tinfoil hat firmly on…

    • SC Dave

      Rand Paul has made a lot of sense for a long time. Like his father before him.

      But then again, I believe in liberty and personal responsibility/consequences.

      • I think I mentioned this before, but I actually agree with Libertarians on some major issues.

        Not policing the world (and by extension feeding the military industrial complex)
        Auditing the Fed and finding out exactly what’s going on
        Ending the war on drugs
        Gay and abortion rights (though some libertarians don’t extend freedom to these)
        Felon disenfranchisement
        Campaign finance reform (depending the candidate I suppose)

        I actually think Bernie Sanders and Rand Paul voters would agree on most of these.

        Where they differ is on other crucial areas, like healthcare, flat tax, regulation, climate and gun control.

        • SC Dave

          I would characterize the essential difference between a “libertarian” and a “liberal” is that the latter believes that government coercion is the solution, where the former believes that it is among the greatest causes of the problem.

          • Irish Sweetness

            And calling yourself either, limits you to being inside that box. Labels suck man.

          • Cormonster

            80% of libertarians don’t identify as Libertarians. Kinda sorta a joke on a libertarian website I visit. Libertarians will never unify on a party because the whole philosophy is based on the individual and principles over principals, which is anathema to most politicians.

          • Yeah, but that reminds me of an episode of The Cosby Show when the son Theo is taking a psych class and asking Cosby all these questions trying to squeeze him into a type for a paper he’s writing.

            But Cosby keeps answering with all these crazy answers cuz he didn’t like being boxed.

            So finally, Theo says, ‘You know what? I got your classification. You’re the type that doesn’t like to be classified. That’s your box’

            Nihilism is another odd one. If you don’t believe in anything, isn’t that in itself a belief?


          • Cormonster

            There’s a pretty broad spectrum of people who identify as libertarianish, but there are some basic things in common. Here’s a pretty good, broad description.

            But what we have in common is belief in the basic
            principle that our government should have less control over our lives;
            that people should be free to speak their minds, free from the fear of
            being imprisoned, their business shut down, or their place of worship
            surveilled; that we should become less involved in the internal affairs
            of foreign governments; that we should respect the individual and do
            everything we peacefully can to promote equality of opportunity for all
            people; that no free person should be compelled to do anything against
            their will; and that America would do well to return to the ideals of
            our founders as they pertain to our government’s relationship to us. We
            don’t want our politicians to be “leaders,” each of us knows what we
            want to do with our individual lives.

          • One of my fav quotes is by the famous utilitarian Mills “You’re free to swing your arms about as long as you don’t punch me in the face”

            Of course, sometimes we need government to ensure we don’t get punched in the face.

            So, I’m curious.

            What government agencies and institution do libertarians consider necessary?

            Cops, Firemen, standing military, IRS, EPA, NSA, FBI, CIA…EPA, NHA infrastructure and parks? Is it a long or short list?

            Do they not believe in the draft?
            How about forcing children in public school to get vaccinated?
            Are they against any mention of god on coins, at courthouses?
            Some seem pro-life some pro-choice.

            Can “small” government work in such a big country? It’s one thing when it was 13 colonies populated sparesley.

            It’s quite another now from ‘sea to shining sea’ with megalopolis and suburbs where wilderness once existed, don’t you think?

            Is there a “libertarian” country they can point as a model to aspire to?

            (Like say socialist can point to Denmark, Japan, etc)

            Curious about some responses. I’m sure you hang out with more of them than I do.

          • Cormonster

            The closest thing to a Libertarian country would be Hong Kong before China took it over.

            Too many questions to answer in one post without writing a term paper. In general, all powers not explicitly stated in the Constitution should be deferred to the states. The Feds main job should be protecting the country and insuring that states don’t infringe on personal liberties.

            I’d argue that having a massive federal government with a behemoth federal bureaucracy with a one size fits all laws is dumb and inefficient. The power should be at the state and local level to ensure greater accountability.

            If I could make two domestic changes right now, it would be to end the drug war and eliminate government run education. Give every parent a voucher and let them decide what’s best for their child’s education. I would completely eliminate the federal Dept of Education. These are two things that are doable in the near future.

            But let’s face it, we’ll never unring the bell on most federal spending until the country goes bankrupt or the dollar stops being the major world currency. So in the meantime I’ll just vote for whoever I think is going to take away the least of my civil rights and money.

          • leftcoastdave

            “Liberalism” used to mean taking power away from the King and putting it into the hands of the people. Now it is about giving guvamint more power. “The power to tax is the power to destroy.”

          • Irish Sweetness

            But then isn’t that conservatism? isn’t that Republican?

    • Irish Sweetness

      My man. Speaketh. Power to the people!

  • willbest

    “Sony Pictures says Sunday in a joint statement with the filmmakers that “food allergies are a serious issue” and the film “should not havemade light” of a character being allergic to blackberries “even in a cartoonish, slapstick way.”In Peter Rabbit, which was released this weekend, the

    character of Mr. McGregor is allergic to blackberries. The rabbits fling the fruit at him in a scene and he is forced to use an EpiPen.”

    There is honest to goodness human trafficking going on in the US, and this is what people spend their slacktivist time on.

    • Only like 33% wanted to overthrow the Brits.
      Only like 15% wanted to enter WW2 before Pearl Harbor.

      A little thing like human trafficking ain’t gonna get Americans off the couch (or cell).

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        Practically nobody wanted to get into WW1.

        Our “representatives” voted overwhelmingly the other way despite the thousands of letters from their constituents.

        -Thomas Fleming’s book “The Illusion of Victory”

        • willbest

          Wilson brought globalism to America.

          ed. or more precisely mainstreamed the hell out of it.

          • SC Dave

            Wilson was one of the worst Presidents to be sure.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Nickname: “Dictator Wilson”.

            A nickname he liked.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

      I heard that today. Fuck that. Fuck them all. What is going on in the world?

      You know what this means? This means my children are going to rule to world. They’re normal. I think that will be enough.

      • Sadly, Idiocracy is turning into a documentary.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

          I always wonder what action/reaction folks like this reserve for actual problems. For instance, if you lose your shit over a Peter Rabbit show, what do you do when you find out actual bad news? Like a health scare, or death in the family, or car accident? If you can’t cope with your Peter Rabbit feelings enough to just laugh it off, what do you do when your child is diagnosed with cancer?

          What the fuck?

        • Cormonster

          The two most common elements in the world are hydrogen and stupidity.

    • BearDown100393

      The Scarlet Fever Society will be taking up arms when the Velveteen Rabbit hits theaters next.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Human trafficking is not that big a deal. As long they obey most of the laws I am usually ok with it, unless they cut me off or keep their blinkers on for miles, then fuck them, they should not be on the road.

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      stuff like that is generally meant to be a distraction

      • leftcoastdave

        Not by the people making Sony come out with the silly statement.

        • KentuckyBearsFan

          Had a friend who took a pay cut to move from California back to the East Coast. Said it was worth it to get back to reality.

          The charity group “Kids With Food Allergies”….also sounds like tax fraud or embezzlement of some sort. A comedian could argue that if anything the scene was raising allergy and EpiPen awareness even if told as a joke.

          I should start a tax fraud…uh…I mean charitable organization to raise awareness of the widespread STD problem among lobbyists and Congressmen: “Thugs With Bugs.”

  • BearDown100393

    “Bears 2018 record: 9-7”

    Geezus the draft has not even happened and the best that can be prematurely boasted is 9-7???

    • I sorta want Pace to draft Mayfield and trade Trub just to see fan reaction.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky (Johnnywad)

        Aim higher. Get Manziel in a stunner.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Manziel has been diagnosed as Bi-Polar.

          I wouldn’t go near that.

          • BearDown100393

            Brandon would.

  • willbest

    Did Irish and Trac catch the former Canadian defense minister confirming the existence of illuminati?

    • Is it the same one who said there were aliens and the U.S. government were in cahoots?

      I think Trac got beamed up by the mother ship, or raptured, or drank the wrong type of coolaid cuz he hasn’t been around

      • willbest

        he is always there, lurking, watching, waiting

  • BerwynBomber

    If you think Wentz can be had for a first and fourth then Pace would be a moron not to make that move.

    Give up a first and fourth for Wentz. And then unload Trubisky for a second or even a mid-to-low first.

    No brainer move.

    • Absolutely.

      But I think he means trading away the 4rth overall, not 4rth rd

      Even so, if they want two 1sts for Wentz I’d do it.

      • BerwynBomber

        PHI ain’t trading Wentz UNLESS the ACL is shredded beyond repair or they think his mobility will be seriously compromised.

        The one worry about Wentz, beyond the risk of another ACL, is the fact that he plays recklessly. The kid needs to learn to slide or step out of bounds. But unlike some guys who never can master sliding, Wentz seems able. He just has to drop the H.S. tough guy stuff.

        P.S. Jeff tends to romanticize Cutty and Bisky. Because of that he needles/needled their supposed individual rivals whenever he could/can. I’m guessing the Wentz stuff is a bit of trolling. And silly at that.

        • BearDown100393

          You really believe a trade would go down if Wentz was still injured and could not perform?

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        I would do it to. They got Foles for another year, the choice of any qb in the draft, plus another top 5 pick, which they easily could trade for a fortune if they wanted to.

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