Two Tweets, or Is There Hope?

| August 22nd, 2017

The question was asked and the question was answered.

The follow-up was asked and the follow-up was answered.

The Chicago Bears have a chance to do the right thing for the 2017 season. They have a chance to admit their mistake – acknowledge giving Glennon 18 million anything was insane – and take an important first step towards the future of this franchise. They can do it Sunday in Tennessee.

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  • EnderWiggin

    They could, but they won’t. We’ll get stuck watching Glennon throwing screens for 2.5 quarters.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Is Kevin dropping them if he does? If he doesn’t show something in PS I’d cut him. There are too many guys with attributes or just doing things like making plays vying for 6 spots. I honestly don’t think I’ve ever seen Kevin make a play. On my board I’ve got one spot between Kevin, Tanner, and a guy who deserves a 6th spot more than any of them, Josh Bellamy. How do you cut Josh and keep Kevin? Potential? Ceilings? Neither of those are real things.

      • Sahr Gborie

        He gets a spot because he is a 1st round draft pick by Pace. If he does not produce his 5th year option will not be picked up

      • CanadaBear

        Follow the money (and potential). Not saying I disagree with ya but they aren’t flushing that money down the toilet this year.

      • The ultimate nightmare.

        White is cut, joins the Pack, becomes a 1,500 yd/10TD WR.

        That’s prolly why they keep him.

    • I think the Bears are gonna let Glennon walk himself to the plank vs ATL.

      Then, he jumps off, the calls will be so loud for Trub, that when they do put him in, Trub will get a lot of leeway.

      Psychological warfare.

  • Sahr Gborie

    1. John Fox is past his prime. He will lose his job before the season is over

    Dough Marrone told reporters, referring to Bortles and Chad Henne. “I told them what I’m looking for is I’m looking for someone that’s gonna lead this offense…I’m not gonna sit here and B.S. anyone. I mean, everyone saw it out there. Whatever you want to call it. I’m still trying to evaluate who the best person is at that position — I told that to both quarterbacks — to lead the offense…I need someone to lead this offense.” – http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/08/17/doug-marrone-im-looking-for-someone-thats-gonna-lead-this-offense/

    2. Money Mitch passes the eye test with flying colors. Mike Glennon, he of the neck that reaches into upper decks is incapable of being a number one quarterback. When compared to Trubisky — in athleticism, passing accuracy and confidence — Glennon is overmatched against Hurricane Mitch.

    • SC Dave

      For what it’s worth, those nicknames suck.

      • There’s no way in hell I’m calling him $ Mitch until he has a winning season and leads some comeback victories.

        Or extorts $100M from the McCaskeys in 2020….

  • Irish Sweetness

    So my anti-virus pops up its little window (clever eh? Doesn’t block its own popups) and there’s a big old green check mark beside the following sentence in big letters: Viruses are being made far more complex.

    And I’m thinking … how the fuck do you know?

    Upgrade to professional NOW … yada yada ….

    And then it hits me like a hammer in the face – who better to write the viruses than the fuckers that sell the software to protect you from them? How else would you find their signatures in a fuzzy, constantly changing environment? It would be like looking for a specific atom in a person. Something that always bothered me about the concept of viruses was always … why?. Why spend hours analysing, designing and implementing code … to develop things that just piss people off? If it’s a program to steal your data, I get it. But if it’s one of those hundreds of inane little piss-ant viruses …. why bother? Why waste your time writing them? Occam’s razor – you sell the software that ‘gets rid of them’.

    Evidence? Larry Kaspersky. A bona-fide nutter that made his bones selling anti-virus software, and ended up in south America with his own private army. A dodgy fucker if ever there was one. Selling snake oil. That was part of my first job, going around to offices updating the virus software they didn’t even need. It never occurred to anyone that we could have totally stolen all the data on their computers while performing a task that really didn’t need to be performed at all.

    Identify a new emerging market, and invent the snake oil for it.

    • SC Dave

      This only occurred to you now?

      • Irish Sweetness

        Can’t remember breakfast, Dave. So probably not!

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      I think you are getting your anti-virus guys mixed up the Kaspersky’s live in Russia and have ties to the Russian intelligence. John McAfee is the nut job that ended up in South America

      • I use Avira which an Italian scientist told me about.

        Avira doesn’t sound like some 3rd world goon, but like an Italian mo-ped that breaks down when it hits 50MPH.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Me too, it’s supposed to be the best, and in fairness, I get no gyp.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Fuck. It was McAfee, nice one HBP. It was totally McAfee. I won’t edit that ….

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          It’s ok. I won’t hold it against you, and I agree most anti virus people are pretty.

    • Corporal Clott

      Aaaah grasshopper….there is hope for you yet.

    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      Irish, you should become a spammer. It would pay better than education.

    • If I upvote you will my comp get internet aids?

  • Sahr Gborie

    Trubisky is schematically challenged because he has never played in the NFL but he will get better as he plays more games.

    He of the neck that reaches into upper decks is physically challenged and there is nothing that you can do to counter that.

    • SC Dave

      I’m still not sure about starting Trubisky early in the regular season. The offensive line has not settled out, and that will be dangerous for him.

      It would be unfortunate to end up finding out how many of the “start Trubisky now” legions *instantly* change course and pillory Fox and Pace for playing him “too early” if he gets injured.

      • Sahr Gborie

        I was against drafting Trubisky. But I came around to seeing his value/the value of a franchise QB and the difference they can make.

        If He Of The Neck That Reaches Into The Upper Decks were any kind of decent I would say let the rookie sit and watch for a few games and possibly the whole season:
        1. We could use Giraffe Neck as trade bait

        2. Trubisky does not have to learn on the fly and take unnecessary hits

        All of that is out the window at this point because Trubisky is playing better ball. The team has a different feel when he is out there. Think back to Cutler & McCown. To this day I still believe it was a mistake to yank McCown just because Cutler was the starter. We are repeating the same mistake by giving the starting job to Giraffe Neck when he has done nothing to separate himself from the rookie and show that he deserves the job

        • You’re right about ‘the feel’. Perhaps not quantifiable like QBR, but it just feels like that O has a spark when Trub is out there.

          Maybe that’s just the shiny new car scent which will wear off once the clutch gives out, but to me it does seem like Trub injects some enthusiasm.

        • Irish Sweetness

          There is no mistake in giving the starting job to the man you’ve paid to be the starter. In fact, you’ve promised everyone that’s the way it’s going down. How long he stays the starter is the question, but he must be in there on week one. You’ve already laid out the plan.

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        I can’t get behind that rationale. Guys blow acl’s in practice.

        • Corporal Clott

          Bet your conscience Yonny. 1 white castle grimey burger says Glennon is gonna get hurt in the first close game the Bears fall behind in and Trubs will replace him. That’s how it’s done in the NFL.

        • SC Dave

          I hope I wasn’t implying it was a rationale. What I meant to be pointing out is the fickle nature of many of the meatheads who would instantly change their chat from “start Mitch now” to “Fox is a fucking idiot for playing our franchise QB too early” in the event of a serious injury.

          • Irish Sweetness

            This is it Dave e.g. if a certain Irishman knocks Floyd cold on Saturday, it’ll be all “yah, Floyd’s done, shouldn’t have come back…” when the week before it was all “Conor won’t land a glove…”

            Short of winning a SB, Fox can’t win with our fanbase. He’s the blame dog.

    • “he will get better as he plays more games.”

      This is the premise every team who busted their 1st rd QB ever assumed.

      Jeff thinks it’s “unfair” to compare Trub to Bortles because (insert self validating evidence)…

      But it’s not as if Bortles was the ONLY QB who busted. We played one last night in the 4rth qrter of a PS game. Gabbert.

      There’s plenty more…Ponder, David Carr, Sanchize, Weeden, McNown, Quinn, Locker, etc…that teams assumed would get better through fire.

      Well, the fire shriveled them up like a raisin then shitted them out like a grandpa.

      I think the more pertinent question we must ask ourselelves is

      Do we have the infrastructure to course correct Trub AS HE PLAYS?

      (as opposed to the sidelines)

      If you look at many of the rook QBs who succeeded they had strong HCs/OCs

      Bill/brady – (who sat a bit). Wilson-Petey – Brees-Peyton (even though Brees came over from SD).

      a rook QB is like a slab of marble. Great material, but it needs to be shaped by a master.

      How much do we believe in Fox/Birdcage once Trub is taking live bullets?


      • Irish Sweetness

        Gabbert looked okay against us, no?

  • SC Dave

    Cohen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL-tzHM2VNQ

    While Tarik does okay ducking hits, it would not break my heart were he to hone that skill. But maybe he’s tougher than I think; Darren Sproles has survived ~1200 touches from scrimmage and another 600+ returns, and Warrick Dunn had over 3,200 touches, so…

    Trubs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za7b2PEP9X8

    Trubisky seems to throw better on the run than standing still, which is Not A Bad Thing. He did get away with one on a dropped int for the stat watchers.

    • SC Dave

      Oh, and I know most of you don’t care, but I’ll stick to my pre-draft prediction that this guy is going to be something special:

      • leftcoastdave

        I was with you then as I am with you now.

        Pace was with us in spirit, but way ahead of us in terms of intel.

        He found gold in the fourth with Tarik the Freak who could be every bit as good, if not better. Tarik is better on the run, CMac perhaps better at running routes. As to build, I would hope Tarik is more durable and we shall see.

        • Irish Sweetness

          What about the second pick? Way more important, and I think it got pissed away. That could have been a good OT or ILB.

      • At :47 you can tell the S was like “oh shit, this whiteboy is fast”

    • leftcoastdave

      Just watched that run for a loss where Grassu was criticized. The blocking assignments were silly with a run right and Grassu expected to block the dude to the right of him and Sitton similarly moving to his right. Either the blocking assignments were blown there or that play should have stayed on the chalk board.

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        The reach block is definitely difficult. Sitton is pretty good at it. Grasu blows at it and old Kyle Long with 2 legs use to be proficient at it.

    • Scharfinator

      He did get away with that pick, though looks like the WR may have fallen down?

  • Sactowns#1

    Seems the consensus around the league is that there is no way in hell Gomer starts prior to game 6, if he starts this year at all. Sounds like they are accepting this season as a loss and taking the time to bring Pyle along with as little pressure as possible.

    • CanadaBear

      You’re going to look silly calling him that if he pans out.

      • leftcoastdave

        What is with the need to tag players with inane monikers?

        • CanadaBear

          I save that for the opposition.

      • Corporal Clott

        Nah… the people are fickle Canada.

        • CanadaBear

          True Dat! Pretty sure people around here will tease Sac if MT is the real deal.

      • Johnnywad

        WHEN……he pans out.

  • Sactowns#1

    No, but seriously. What did you guys do with MB’s body?

    • CanadaBear

      I think it’s at the bottom of the pile of young, female flesh in SD.

      • willbest

        Somebody mentioned 3-4 months ago that he had a girl that was a bit more than Ms. Right Now.

        • CanadaBear

          I’m guessing he rolls in at the start of the season. If not, we’ll survive.

          • Corporal Clott

            If the Bears start 3 and 1 or maybe 4-2, he’ll drop in but if they sheite the bed again? Forgettaboutit! Can’t say I blame him. Being a Sprinkbok fan and all. Hee hee

          • Bender McLugh

            methinks the “Guest” votes on some posts are him, the damn lurker

          • Johnnywad

            Prolly only if Eddie Jackson goes all Mike Brown.

          • CanadaBear

            That would be sweet. I think Jackson is gonna be a fan favorite if he can stay healthy.

          • SC Dave

            He might.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I’m telling you, it’s love. He’s twitterpated like young Bambi.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      I heard he was sighted on a 49ers blog preaching the greatness of Hoyer.

    • BearDown100393

      Last seen entering a submarine in Denmark.

      • King of DBB

        Some people really lose their head at deep depths.


  • AlbertInTucson

    “…without it being an “affront” to Glennon?”

    If he can’t stand the heat, he has no business in the kitchen.

    • Corporal Clott

      Gasp! Al, you meannie!

      • SC Dave

        $18M should primp any ruffled feathers, dontcha think?

    • evantonio

      what if he’s in the kitchen making some nice rice pudding?

      no heat needed, and very delicious.

      • SC Dave

        Or perhaps a fresh batch of gazpacho?

        • evantonio

          it’s tomato soup, served ice cold!

          • Irish Sweetness

            Ha! I had that little beef with an old girlfriend – she’d ream me for calling it cold soup. It’s chilled, darling.

          • evantonio

            Your old girlfriend needs to get learned: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRfHlBk4Pcg

      • AlbertInTucson

        Yards per attempt of less than 5 IS rice pudding.

      • Johnnywad

        Then I would come over, talk to him about not playing football, and eat his rice pudding. Perhaps we’d play a board game or something. He seems like a nice guy. So why not?

    • BearDown100393


      Who cares about Giraffe’s feelings?

      • Irish Sweetness

        Mrs. Giraffe, who – let’s remind ourselves – hit the fucking jackpot with Gummo. In a financial sense.

    • Johnnywad

      I’m sure he’s going to be quite fine with it. The absolute best thing that could happen to Glennon is to avoid taking a single regular season snap. He may just land one more guaranteed pay day by being an unknown quantity. If he plays this season, he’ll likely be done after it.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I’ll take affront all Christmas if somebody is paying me 18M dollars.

  • BearDown100393

    “They have a chance to admit their mistake – acknowledge giving Glennon
    18 million anything was insane – and take an important first step
    towards the future of this franchise.”

    There is no “They”.

    This falls squarely on Pacebot.

    • Scharfinator

      It’s not a mistake unless they re-sign Glennon. He was, and always will be, our “safe” choice.

      Boring, frustrating, tedious? Sure.

      A mistake would be letting a potential franchise QB rookie get his head torn off before he’s ready.

      • Corporal Clott

        Kinda lIke expecting a college freshman to drink Jeff under the table? Hee hee

        • SC Dave

          Well, the evidence of one that can drink people under the table is major consumption WITHOUT getting stupid, so…

        • Scharfinator

          Oddly specific, but yes.

    • King of DBB

      —FIRMWARE Reboot: Guru Meditation Error #E5FC
      — Valuation subroutine segmentation fault: Glennon array syntax error at Line 8

      • SC Dave

        +700 blog points for Amiga reference!

        • Irish Sweetness

          I see your Amiga reference and raise you an Oric ….

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        I’m a people person, I don’t know what that means.
        (it means I won’t have a job in about 10yrs)

        • King of DBB

          I meant to ask you what you think of mortgage apps.

          You don’t need to ask anybody for a home loan anymore! You can just say “hey Siri, I want to buy me this house.” and the app – which already knows everything about you – approves your loan in SECONDS!

          • Does Siri take into account the massage parlor, “sugar booger,” and vietnam pai gow expenses – or is that only slutty Siri from the dark web?

          • King of DBB

            I want Full Metal Siri voice.

            “hey baby, me love you long time. me find you thai place sooo good.”

            Siri’s new update: now support Irish racists!

            Irish racist Siri:

            “Siri, where is the nearest emergency room?”
            (Sinead OConnor voice)
            “oh, haff ya gone and fucked up your face again?? you stupid bloody wetback. maybe have dem sew your god damn face off, why dont cha?”

    • Maybe shoulda kept Hoyer.

      – Save about, Oh, $10M in cap which could’ve bought us a real CB/WR or added depth elsewhere.
      – “smokescreen” would’ve still been in full-effect cuz Hoyer had an efficient yr under Birdcage
      – He’d have kept games competitive which is all Pacebot wanted till Trubs is ready
      – He would’ve most likely been injured ’round say, game 7 or something. At which point, you don’t have to awkwardly bench him. Just insert Trub.
      – Wouldn’t have needed Sanchize since Hoyer is a willing mentor (saves another mil in cap)

      But, Pacebot crunched the Vegas odds, and per usual, house wins.

      I remember many on here wanting Tyrod Taylor. There’s been talk over there about my man Peterson usurping him.

      Never know with QBs.

      • CanadaBear

        Smokescreen would have been blown. Nobody would believe the Bears were at the top of draft with Hoyer as the QB and NOT take a QB. Glennon was somewhat of a younger unknown and let’s be honest, everyone was surprised when the Bears moved up to take MT. Not saying Glennon is a better QB than Hoyer. Just a better smokescreen.

        • I’ll give you that Glennon was a SLIGHTLY better smokescreen due to the $18M and ‘unknown’ factor, but the 9ers had Hoyer starting, and NOBODY expected them to draft a QB either.

          Now, if the 9ers had Barkley as their starter, maybe that changes, but IMO, Hoyer is just good enough to make teams think he’s viable for a yr or so.

          • CanadaBear

            Glennon’s 4 year’s younger. That makes a difference, perception-wise. Either way, they both suck and Pace definitely over paid.

          • SC Dave

            The money is only relevant for one season, snd really only then to the McCaskeys

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        we still had more than enough Cap space to sign any CB/WR we wanted.

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        Keeping Hoyer as the bridge but selling out on the continued rebuild of the trenches and killers needed for consistent success would have been ok with me as I mentioned in posts from months ago.
        Keeping Hoyer, drafting Trubisky and continuing the rebuild with an extra piece or two from the money saved as you posted about would have made sense as well.
        Instead, we sunk a shit ton of money into Glennon, drafted Trubisky and DID NOT fill other holes adequately. That sucks.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Again we still had more than enough Cap space to sign anyone we wanted. even a couple of them

          • You don’t think if we threw an extra $5M to say Gilmore or Bouye that they would’ve signed?

            I mean, EVENTUALLY $ lures teams to losers.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I do think extra money would have got them and we had PLENTY OF CAP SPACE to give them. We are currently sitting at $18 MILL

          • Yes, but we are going to extend some players like Hicks and Leno, maybe one of those 1 yr prove it guys (Howard, Prince, Cooper…)

            That extra $10M could go there OR roll it over to next FA season and FINALLY get a blue-chip player.

            Can’t argue that an extra $10M in cap HURTS a team, or that it couldn’t have helped to overpay an FA this season or next.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            We can cut Glennon after this year with little cap hit. We will have the extra $10-15 mill next year. Plus a guy like Houston will probably be cut and we will have close to $60 mill in cap space next year. Enough Money to extend players and still get a blue chip player.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Notably ILB and OT.

      • willbest

        Keep in mind that, from what we have seen, Trubisky is ahead of schedule in his development. Pace clearly emulated the Eagles. Lock down somebody that won’t embarrass you, then go draft the guy with the biggest upside. The won’t embarrass you this year was slim pickings.

        Also, Pace knew signing Hoyer would be a major tell that the Bears were drafting a QB. He probably figured paying Glennon $6 million more than he should have was worth it simply because now other GM’s would call him and inquire if he would be willing to trade back. If he had just brought in Hoyer, nobody would call Pace because they would be too busy bidding him up while he was trying to get Cleveland’s #1.

        Did he need to spend the extra money? Who knows. If Trubisky knocks Cutler out of every Bears passing record, not only is nobody going to care, but they will swear to a man that it was necessary.

        • Irish Sweetness

          If the 18M got us Mitchell, then I won’t bust Pace’s balls

      • Irish Sweetness

        Keep Hoyer ??? Not Cutty, but Hoyer?? Our boy was looking as sharp as could be expected in Miami.

        If Cutty was in place in Chicago, POX could have happily made the switch to Trubs any time they liked, and there wouldn’t have been a controversy in week one.

  • King of DBB

    “I know the Danes like Lego pieces that snap together but still”

    “Who hasn’t dismembered a corpse at 300 feet down? These things happen.”

    “Are you ready kids?
    Aye-aye captain.
    I can’t hear you…
    Aye-aye captain!
    Ohhhhhh! Who lives in a submarine under the sea?
    Great Dane Sub Man!
    Scandinavian and rapey and crazy is he!
    Great Dane Sub Man!”

    “Worst at-sea burial ever”

    “What was the captain’s name? Scott Peterson of course”

    “Any chance this guy wrote a Linux filesystem?”

    “The Girl in the Dragon Submersible. ”

    “I have a sinking feeling there is more to come.”

    “Where is Hercules Poirot when you really need him?”

    A Headless Body in a Topless Sub – by Rudyard Kipling

    “One of These Days – I’m going to cut you into little pieces.
    And then feed you to the fish and then scuttle my sub to cover up the forensic evidence.”

    “In Danish you say, ‘”Uagtsomt drab eller uagtsomt manddrab”, which, loosely translated, means “Your daddy is a necrophiliac submariner.”


    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      +.5 Bitcoin for the SpongeBob lyrics. Now I can’t get it out of my head. The pirate is singing your words and they are coming to life.

    • “the implication”

  • I watched the game replay last night on NFLN.

    Few general and specific impressions.

    Our D overall is SPUNKY. You can tell esp that secondary HUNGRY for the TOs. They were rather aggressive. Jumping routes. Trying to rip out balls. Running back TOs even if they weren’t. Reminded me of when Old Sauce had them doing push ups for loafs. They were jacked. And the Dline was just abusing them. On that goaline it was a jailbreak. Ariz announcer “that right side completely collapsed” other announcer “so did the left side”. Numerous sacks and hits on all Ariz QBs. I know they don’t have the best Oline, but this seems to be a trend. And they don’t back down either. In the previous games Bolles pushed Goldman (of all ppl), and Goldman shoved him right back and got in his face while naturally McPhee ran over to regulate some more. Think these guys got a mean streak to them.


    Our O is predicated on that stretch-run/bootleg. HOW IN DEE FUCK can Glennon run this? You need a somewhat mobile QB who is accurate on the run. In other words, the completely opposite of Giraffe.

    The D is NEVER going to respect the backside run. They’re going to sell out to the edge. If it’s a PA bootleg, Glennon runs so slow that they’ll have time to recover and jump his stare-down ill-placed throw.

    The oline will have to blow defenders out of their zone to get it going. Wonder if Birdcage begins changing his philo given Glennon’s shortcomings?

    I think Carey is gone. He was given more carries than usual last night through out, and he really didn’t wow. That was his chance, IMO, and I don’t think he did enough.


    Y’all know how I feel about Thompson, but I just don’t know how you dump a guy who does everything you ask of him, and sometimes a lil more.

    On that 109 yd run back, that team went bezerk on the sidelines. They seem like they love the lil guy.


    NONE of our backup ILBs (Timu, Anderson, Jones, etc) can cover a pass. It’s embarrassing when they try. Maybe that’s why Bears just signed another one.

    Is Skuta a thing?

    • Corporal Clott

      I hope your oil comes from olive tree’s butch.

      • I don’t know what that means, but it sounds strangely sexual.

        But for the record I use virgin olive oil or coconut to fry my eggs!

        • Corporal Clott

          As opposed to snake oil.

        • Johnnywad

          Not bacon grease????? Why even bother?????

          • If I’m gonna die of a heart attack it’s going to be from a night of a 21 yr old riding me till I croak and enter the afterlife with a hard-on…not from an omelette!

          • CanadaBear

            You don’t get a choice unless it’s self inflicted!

    • willbest

      Howard’s season is in doubt. Langford didn’t touch the ball. How are you convinced that means Carey is gone?

      • Howard’s season is in doubt?
        Didn’t he resume practice?

        I don’t think Bears roster 4 HBs (5 if u count Burton)

        Howard, Cohen, Benny are locks, IMO.

        Burton, depends on philo (I hope he stays).

        Again, I’m anticipating 3 Qbs and possibly 4 TEs.

        Which means Carey might be the odd man out.

        • willbest

          The injury isn’t serious in the sense that it needs rest. The problem with a corneal abrasion is it greatly diminishes the vision in the injured eye resulting in a reduction of depth perception. So the question is how much does it affect his ability to take a hand off, scan the field, and/or catch the ball.

          And season was an exaggeration, but its possible that he won’t be his old self for a good 6 weeks.

          Our QBs are going to be Glennon, Trubisky, Shaw on the practice squad.

          • Irish Sweetness

            6 weeks? Nah. I had one of those. Maybe a week.

      • SC Dave
      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        haha, I may have embellished on Howard’s injury a bit. I think he got poked in the eye. I’m pretty sure that Braverman did not jam it back into his eye socket.

        • Johnnywad

          LOL. I saw your post about his eye over the weekend, showed it to my 17 year old son, and he nearly lost his shit. He was on his phone in the blink of an eye trying to trade Howard away from his fantasy team before any of his buddies heard the news. Should have let him do it.

    • King of DBB

      Cohen trucked a guy twice, on two different runs.

      So you got a guy who can take the initial hit despite being small, and grind it for another yard or so.

      Except Cohen’s speed and open field moves are 3x Carey, who runs like a shrunken Jerome Bettis.

      Langford and Carey are both gone. Cunningham and Cohen are on the squad. That other guy, #32, I don’t know what he brings to specials

      • lol Shrunken Jerome Bettis. Would that make him the “short bus”?

        Rounds had him self a decent game, but he’s nothing special.
        When the first cuts happen, there’s gonna be a wave of young hungry HBs and surprised vet HBs on the street.

        Every yr it’s the HB purge.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Arizona had a 6’2 guy RB that might get cut. E. Penny. They like him and he might be a victim to numbers. We don’t really have a replacement for Jordan, Penny might be it.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Danny Trevathan is also lost in coverage, remember that. And I don’t know if Arizona’s line was all that, but we were getting pressure with 3 men ….

      • AlbertInTucson

        Arizona ‘s O-Line protection was poor last season. Palmer was sacked 40 times in 15 starts.

        • Irish Sweetness

          He got properly abused. I don’t think he makes it thru this season.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I agree.

      • Yeah, but it’s a minor miracle Tre is even running around after tearing his petella.

        Those other schmucks are like ogres trying to bat elf arrows down.

  • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

    I want to know who poked Howard in the eye during a WALK THROUGH.

    • BearDown100393

      I’m guessing McPhee.

    • Corporal Clott

      Sounds like the guy was given a warning for some reason.

    • Right after he had eye surgery.


    • SC Dave

      Langford? The guy whose job he destroyed?

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        Corp espionage

    • Irish Sweetness


  • “There’s like 8 things about Chicago I will never understand. Why it’s
    the only city that takes Hub Arkush seriously is close to top of list.” – Jeff

    Oh, snap, GP, defend CHI’s honor!

    ALSO, this from Hub’s article.

    “In exhibition two in Arizona, Glennon made another really poor
    decision but also took a clear step forward in a performance that crept
    up on mediocrity.

    Keep in mind this means, to date, Glennon has played three quarters
    of exhibition football with a well-below-average receiver corps and
    wounded and leaky offensive line against two of the NFL’s better
    first-team defenses.

    Trubisky, on the other hand, was asked this week to operate more
    within the confines of the Bears offense, and took a step backwards,
    showing surprisingly poor accuracy standing in the pocket after being so
    impressive outside of it.”


    • King of DBB

      Shaw Media came in with a capital injection and re-floated PFW for Hubby Bubby after it went bankrupt.

      Hub was not a good businessman, but they put him back in as EIC after they refloated the magazine and it’s subscriber base is back over 200k and Hub is sometimes on national media and is certainly a local star. THat he was re-installed as EIC shows that they think Hub is a good NFL beat writer and reporter.

      He was the analyst in the booth for WBBM when I was in high school until Butkus stopped getting along with him. Now he does a pre-game show for 670. The 670 youth adore the guy.

      Chicago fans (and Jeff) seem to largely hate him. I’ve heard him say stupid stupid stupid shit (Carimi was a lock for a great player, but Kyle Long was a reach likely to bust) and I have heard him say alot of astute stuff.

      Any guy who deals in off-the-record conversations with GMs is going to have his stock and trade be in knowledge and innuendo, and he has a bad habit of hiding his sources and saying “trust me, I know” – which fans and the internet hates.

      In many ways, he’s the Felix to Jeff’s Oscar so I can see why Jeff would hate him.

      The flip side is that Hub hates the bloggers for the most part, so it’s 2-way.

      • CanadaBear

        I thought Hub was awful on those Bears broadcasts.

      • Irish Sweetness

        That and Bill Cowher was going to be our next HC.

      • Cormonster

        Hub and Wayne Larivee do a syndicated PFW pre-game radio show every week that is really good. They do a rundown of every game for the week, with key match-ups and predictions. Wayne and Hub both definitely do their homework and are always prepared for the show. The only other show I like that is similar is one with Boomer Esiason. All the other pre-game radio shows universally suck. Almost all of them focus on FF. I’ve always enjoyed listening to Hub. He speaks his mind, is knowledgeable, and will usually admit his mistakes.

        • CanadaBear

          I thought he was awful on Bears games back in the day. He doesn’t bother me at all when I see him on the sports shows.

        • On what platform is that on, Corm? XFM, Sirius?

          I like listening to Hub too. I agree with GP. He may say some stupid shit, but at least it’s informed stupid shit.

          I find it funny when fans call saying that the McCaskeys don’t care.

          Hub always retorts, “I know them. Believe me they care. They’re just incompetent”

          • Cormonster

            I listen on a locally owned station that also has the Packers game. They must buy syndicated shows, because they have CBS, ESPN, and other networks on their program schedule.

          • Cormonster

            I’m sure there’s got to be a station in LA that carries it. It’s on pretty early in my area, like 7 or 8 am.

    • Irish Sweetness

      “a well-below-average receiver corps” ?

      What now?

  • StarkyLuv

    Giving Glennon the money isn’t the problem. Just handing him the job and announcing no QB competition is. You ALWAYS make a new, unproven guy earn it. Bears did the same thing with Grossman. Learn from the Seahawks and swallow the money and start your best QB.

    • Johnnywad

      This is a very difficult point to argue with. I see value in leaving the kid on the bench until the bye. But it’s also hard to leave the other 52 guys hanging like that when he’s obviously better. Glad it’s not my call to make.

    • It’s a bit more complicated than “start the best”.

      Short term, that seems like an easy solution.

      But risk-reward comes into play.

      Everyone points to Wilson, but we can all agree that they had a playoff caliber roster. Do we?

      Wilson played in a much more NFL O in college.

      Wilson also was a 3rd rder. Less risk. If he busted out, who cares? Be like Grasu busting.

      It’s different when it’s the 2nd overall pick you traded UP for.

      We also know that David Carr syndrome is real. If a rook QB is running for his life or losing game after game (which many Bears fans expect), how does that help – long term?

      Prolly not going to help either his mechanics or confidence.

      That being said, Glennon has looked awful. I’m not sure where the line is to determine he’s irredeemably terrible.

      Some like Jeff had already made up their minds from the TB tape. Others wanna see if he sucks in, ya know, A REAL GAME (w the bears).

      I’m leaning towards the latter.

      I say give him first 3-4 games (depending on the level of suckage).

      What is Trub gonna learn in those 4 games he can’t learn in the next 12?

      But at least we can learn if Glennon really is a lost cause while giving Trub a few extra weeks to prepare for the driving test.

      • Johnnywad

        Also a very strong position. Tough to know what’s right.

        • It is tough. Lots of factors to consider.
          If we were the Texans or Donks, I’d be waaaay more open to Trub starting.

          Those Ds will keep games tight, so the QB won’t have to go Brees.
          They have weapons like Demaryius Thomas, Fuller, Hopkins…
          They’re in the playoff hunt.

          Bears on the other hand…

          Also, it’s not as if Trub is NEVER going to start.

          If he’s the real deal, he’ll be here till we’re 60.

          What is an extra 4 games going to teach him, really?

          I wanna open our new Xmas toy too, but sometimes just gotta wait til midnight.

          • CanadaBear

            I hope he’s there until I’m 75. 60 just doesn’t work for me!

          • You’ll outlive us all, Canada!

            ur a small dry canadian with full health insurance surrounded by plush country and nice ppl

            (pan to southside chicago…)

          • CanadaBear

            Not sure about that Butch! I’ve probably got 30 years on you (or close to it) and I’m sure there are some younger guys on here. I’ve probably got close to 40 years on R2.

          • SC Dave

            At least one person around here is older than me.

            But I’d bet on Al too

          • AlbertInTucson

            I heard that!

          • SC Dave

            Be grateful the ears still work that well!

          • AlbertInTucson

            Huh? Wha? Speak up, whippersnapper!

          • CanadaBear

            Al and I are close in age. I’m not sure if there are any regs on here older than Al and me.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Tomorrow is promised to no man, C-Bear, R2 could have a heart-attack from all the olympic sex he’s probably having.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I resemble that remark as well as second that emotion.

          • SC Dave

            I think the bears supporting cast is better than most others seem to think.

            Especially the defense.

          • They could surprise, no doubt about it.
            If Bears stay healthy. If players like Bullard, Kwiat, Howard, Floyd, take the next step.
            If Cam and White aren’t duds…

            I can see it; heck, I’m a fan, so I’m pulling for it.

            But this isn’t like the Bears in 06 coming into the season expecting wild card at worst.

            Most fans would consider it miraculous to even sniff a WC regardless of QB.

          • SC Dave

            Truthfully, I would not be surprised if this team wins 9 to 11 games.

            Or 5 or 6.

            The margin between all but the very best and very worst teams in the NFL is very thin.

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        People keep bringing up David Carr because he’s the only bust that may have washed out because of the epic ass kicking he endured but we ONLY bring up David Carr.
        We do that because it’s an anomaly and it cannot be duplicated. The Texans were an expansion team with a patchwork O line and couldn’t run OR pass. He was sacked 250 times in 5 years. What kind of fucking retard OC/Coaching staff would have to exist in this day and age to allow that to happen again? A fan would assassinate the coaches before it could reach that point.
        Does anyone really expect that somehow this would happen to Trubisky and that somehow he would magically follow the exact career path as David Carr?
        Come now.

        Play The Kid. Save The Franchise.

        • Well, he’s just the most recognizable example.

          You can also name it the “every QB the Browns have ever drafted and immediately started” syndrome, but that’s a lil longer

          (Kizer, ur up…)

          • Irish Sweetness

            Somewhere along the line (probably due to money) the old master-apprentice system of QBs in the NFL was just ditched. And it was wrong to ditch it.

        • BuddhaJoe

          Well he wasn’t a rookie, but plenty of people think Cutty was ruined by Turner, Martz and and aging to awful defense.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Yeah, some have definitely made up their minds without giving him a chance. Two gos in PS is hardly the time you afford your recently signed starting QB. How long that lasts for, I don’t know. But what’s the rush again? This is not a SB squad (yet) so the playoffs are pointless.

    • BearDown100393

      ‘Cause we all know the McCaskeys don’t mind at all having $18 million ride the pine.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Money vs winning games. I am guessing McCaskeys are going to take the latter.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Who are you talking about? Mike or Mitch? Why should Mitchell be handed the starting job – lines 2 and 3 are contradictory, no? Mitch has to earn that spot, you don’t do that facing the threes in two PS games. And throwing him to the wolves in a brutal opening 6 or 7 weeks could ruin him (or get him killed), and for what? This squad isn’t built to win the SB this season. With higher draft picks from a Glennon-led season, we can make a run next year.

      Do we all want to see Mitch do his thing as a starter? Of course we do. Right now? That’s a many-headed beast …..

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        Irish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nope.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Oh I’d love to see him out there … I just will be very surprised if he is.

  • BearDown100393

    What exactly will Mitch Trubisky be learning watching Giraffe or Sanchez play ahead of him?

    • He could learn what NOT to do, which is often as or even more important as learning what to do.

      • BearDown100393

        Hasn’t he learned that in camp?

    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      How to say everything correctly and be a nice palatable, media friendly guy while sucking.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Jon Bones Jones has tested positive for Turinabol post UFC 214, and has been stripped of his title. Unbelievable. JBJ – and I stated this on YT – was lying during the pressers, he was stuttering over the words “I’m reformed”. SMFH. Poor Daniel.

    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      Haha, no fucking way

      • Irish Sweetness


  • BuddhaJoe

    Still not sure Trubs should be the permanent starter, but I think he should play the second quarter with the 1st string next game. Doubt Fox will buck the trend though. Glennon has shown he needs all the practice he can get if he’s starting week 1.

  • fishing florida

    if it’s fox’s final decision, and not paces’. then glennon will start the season opener no matter what.

  • MrBearsox02 .

    DaBearsBlog Tweets are mostly as annoying as farting when ya though you sat to shit ! He just makes noise that in the end is a meaningless waste of time !

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