Three Thoughts For Another Week of the Offseason

| August 14th, 2017

Mini-primer for the week ahead…

  • Ryan Pace praising competition at all positions is a drastic shift from “Mike Glennon is our starting quarterback and we’re pumped about that”. Remember, Pace put his neck (and arguably career) on the line when he moved into the two slot for Trubisky and NO ONE was more enthralled by the kid’s preseason debut. But again, Trubisky’s success isn’t the story to watch. Trubisky is going to have the same ups and downs any rookie has. Watch Glennon. If he continues to struggle – and he’s not good so that should be expected – the Bears will have no choice but to move quickly into the future.
  • Three different trustworthy individuals, all on the ground in Bourbonnais, told DBB there was no way to argue Eddie Jackson wasn’t one of the two best safeties in camp. This, coupled with reports of Jackson getting time with the ones in practice, leads one to believe EJ will soon find himself lining up beside Quintin Demps in the starting defensive backfield.
  • Bears waiver claim of Roberto Aguayo is just…odd. Most of Pace’s maneuvers, position-by-position, have been understandable. Even the Glennon signing made sense as long as there was a correlating move. But how he’s handled kicker is bizarre. Cutting an aging Gould for a mediocre Barth. Cutting Barth’s popular and accurate challenger early this summer, creating a completely competitionless position. Now signing one of the worst draft picks of modern times? Taking one of the most mentally fragile players the league has seen and putting him in front of one it’s most angry, impatient fan bases? Asking a guy who couldn’t make extra points in the perfect conditions of Tampa to now come kick in arguably the third most difficult kicking building in the league behind the Meandowlands and Heinz Field? Seriously, what’s the point?

Another week begins. (And these practices become far more important…because they are secret.)

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  • Scharfinator

    I’m with you on the kicker stuff, Jeff. WTF is Pace doing with that.

    EDIT: I figured it out. Pace wants the pressure on the QB’s to score TD’s every time because the kickers won’t get it done! BRILLIANT

    • SC Dave

      A mystery indeed. They should have just let Robbie finish as a Bear, and replaced him once they found someone clearly better. Barth was, and is, not clearly better.

      Sort of makes me wonder whether Pace has delegated that decision making to someone “better able” to decide. But that might even be scarier, if true.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Robbie who?

      • willbest

        Robbie was being paid $3.5 million, I think we are paying these guys 1.5

        • SC Dave

          No cap problem = who cares?

          • willbest

            Robbie is also bad. Why pay a bad player more than twice what he is worth?

          • SC Dave

            Because he’s better than the guy you replaced him with, and you can’t even find a dude to replace HIM?

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            For most (all?) of his Bears career, ROBBIE WAS MONEY INSIDE 45 yards.

          • willbest

            That doesn’t change the fact that in his last year here he wasn’t money, and there was no point in giving it to him.

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            …that makes sense. I didn’t really pay attention during his last year that he had dropped off that much. Tired leg?

  • Scharfinator

    Maybe teams really aren’t signing him because he’s a distraction AND not very good…


    • SC Dave

      As the great Paul Harvey closed his radio program:

      “And now you know the rest of the story.”


    • leftcoastdave

      The whole meme that “he is being blackballed by the NFL” is silly. Any team who wants him can have him. Every team needing a QB has decided he (and his baggage) are not worth what he might produce on the field. End of story. Becoming controversial might have been a great long term career move for him. Just wait for his book deal.

    • Sactowns#1

      It will be interesting to see how people react when more and more players sit for the anthem. How far will the selective outrage go?

      • Irish Sweetness

        Marshawn, now Bennett in Seattle …. both sat …. both still in jobs.

    • What you DON’T see is the stats for Joe Webb, Oz, Simian, Hackenburg, Barkley, Austin Davis…and a million other QBs who are on teams right now.

      • Scharfinator

        They are bad but not distractions. Kap has been bad and a distraction.

        Pretty easy to see why 32 teams don’t want the headache. If he was a top tier player, you bet your ass he would be on a team.

        • KentuckyBearsFan

          Big distraction.

          It’s like working in a restaurant and protesting “Happy Birthday” and expecting to keep your job.

      • willbest

        Is Kaep willing to play for $3 million and be a backup?

        • That’s the only question remaining. That and maybe he’s trying to pull a Cargo and wait for someone else’s knee to explode.

          • willbest

            I mean that was always my thing with Cutler. I don’t think Browns/Jets were situations he wanted to play in, places like Houston and Denver the money vs. risk was right. For example, I find it impossible to believe that Houston would have passed on 5+5+3 mil for Cutler. But Cutler most assuredly wasn’t in the right frame to accept such an offer at the time. By the time Gase was forced to come knocking the money was right, and it probably was a big big sell that he knows and likes Gase and his offense.

          • “I find it impossible to believe that Houston would have passed on 5+5+3 mil for Cutler”

            Why is that? Didn’t you see how Cutler performed last season? Why would ANY team want that? (none did, as a matter of fact).

            IMO, both Kap and Cutler are diff cases.

            Kap has questionable talent, so does Cutler (meaning, on field production).

            But that’s sorta where it ends.

            Kap is younger. Less inj prone. Not “apathetic”. And even though younger, more experienced having played in more offseason games, including a SB.

            Does ANYONE doubt that if he hadn’t knelt, he would be signed by now?

            We all know the answer to that.

            Unless Kap is demanding $8M or over, I think he’s signed.

            Hoyer got what, $6M?

            Certainly Kap is close to that range. Or at worst, in the Barkley/Oz/Simean tier.

            But honestly, I don’t think ANYONE knows what he’s demanding $ wise.

            Those who want to convince themselves it’s “just about football” will pretend he’s asking for $10M (god forbid he gets what Cargo got).
            Those who want to argue he’s getting blackballed, will say he’s asking for like $3M

            No one really knows, but all I know is, this is a QB starved league where cucks like Charlie Whitehurst, Matt Schuab, RG3, Matt Cassell, Matt Moore, and Chad Fucking Henne were getting paid about $5M to be cucks, and yet Kap is somehow WORSE than them?

            Highly dubious.

            I would just like for teams to come out and say it. If you’re going to be a ruthless profit-driven owner, just own it and say “Kap would hurt our profit margins” as opposed to the BS “He’s not a very good player and our QB situation is better without him”.

          • willbest

            I saw an injured Cutler pay like garbage, and I saw a healthish cutler play well. I risk $5 million that Cutler is healthy, and if he is I pay him another $5 million, and if he performs efficient he gets that last 3. My down side risk is a just paid $5 million for a clipboard holder and my upside is I have the ~20th QB in the league instead of Savage.

          • willbest

            Again, doe she want to be a backup? Because there weren’t that many open QB spots to even have a chance to compete for.

            San Fran, Chicago, Cleveland, Houston, Jets, Denver. Toss in Miami when Tannehill went down. But then his pro-Castro stance rules that out.

            He was done in San Fran, even without the protest, he was done there. I know the team has a larger market share due to its historical success, but the bay area itself would eat that shit up.

            Chicago, Cleveland, and Houston all solved their QB situation through the draft. So really its just Denver and the Jets. Horseface would take one look at Kaep and decide he isn’t a winner. So the only real question is why isn’t Kaep a Jet?

          • SC Dave

            I posted a comment from someone somewhere earlier, and I’ll stick with it.

            Is it really surprising that teams are passing on a guy that will lower ticket sales?

          • AlbertInTucson

            “By the time Gase was forced to come knocking the money was right, and it probably was a big big sell that he knows and likes Gase and his offense.”

            Cutler said as much today, on NFL Network Radio.

  • Corporal Clott

    There’s several reasons you cut the kid. Most of them don’t have the right NFL football player mentality and that could be part of it. Maybe Pace needs the roster spot and he’ll call this kid back up when the time is right. Who know’s?

  • Phiips was supposedly pretty bad in camp.

    I get the Aguayo signing. Maybe being gone from TB and the expectations of being way overdrafted will help him. He was viewed as one of the best K prospects in years going into the 2016 draft. I’m ok with a risk-free three week chance to see if he can recover that form.

    • I like it. I’m always for bringing in highly drafted semi-busts for almost nothing.
      It’s not as if Aguayo was found with a pound of X or coming into camp a fat bastard.

      As someone else said, he’s just got a massive case of the yips.

      Maybe change cures that.

      If not, not biggie. Barth still there.

  • BearDown100393

    “Remember, Pace put his neck (and arguably career) on the line when he
    moved into the two slot for Trubisky and NO ONE was enthralled by the
    kid’s preseason debut.”

    No one? What?

    • Bender McLugh

      yeah not sure that sentence is what Jeff was going for

      • BearDown100393

        I think he means Glennon?

        • Bender McLugh

          my thought as well

      • CanadaBear

        That’s the problem when you are your own editor. I write a monthly newsletter and I’ve gone over one countless times, sent it out and find a glaring mistake in the first or second sentence. DOH!

        • ALWAYS happens. Happens to me too.
          The problem I think that it was your brain that made the mistake to start with, and it’s the same brain trying to correct it.

          I’m sure there’s some sorta neurological study on it.

          Good rule of thumb is to print it and proof the hard copy. Works for me at least.

        • DaBearsBlog

          I would love to have an editor. Especially for the shit I write in the wee hours of the morning.

          • CanadaBear

            I hear ya!

          • SC Dave

            I might be willing, Jeff. But if there’s a “deadline” I could not promise I’d always meet it.

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            Does editing even matter in the internet age? There’s a new news cycle like every 6 hours.

            I still remember back in the day seeing misspellings in both locally and nationally printed newspapers.

            This ain’t Shakespeare folks.

            Actually this might be Shakespeare. There are different spellings of different words depending on the age of the edition and the publisher.

            The only thing that matters is getting the main point across even though not having the foggiest idea what that last Hamlet line actually meant word for word.

          • When Jeff begins writing immortal plays in iambic pentameter, maybe we can let him slide on the typos.


          • SC Dave

            I saw a cut sheet from a major radio company’s product, and the FIRST SENTENCE had a blatant typo.

            The internet has made people sloppy in their writing, which is a strong indicator of sloppiness in their thinking.

            Twitter has, of course, magnified this by 10,000 or so.

          • AlbertInTucson


          • AlbertInTucson

            Editing SHOULD matter.

            And these folks claiming proper punctuation is “racist” are whack jobs.

          • AlbertInTucson

            It’s so easy to go “Text Blind” after hours of this stuff. I try never to complain about typos.

            I do a lot of text graphics in my work and, thankfully, my stuff gets reviewed before it goes on air.

            I can spell and can punctuate but I have never learned to type properly.

            It’s two-fingered, hunt and peck while looking at the keyboard here.

            Plus, there is the damned auto correct which is happy to put its own words in your work.

    • Malice Halice

      It is fucked up Trub didn’t get the cover for his performance yet Watson, n Keizer did after their first game performance. Chicago gone ALWAYS have haters but damn tho

    • Typo? Sacracsm font? Guinness?

    • DaBearsBlog

      Typo. Fixed early this morning

  • leftcoastdave

    “If he continues to struggle – and he’s not good so that should be
    expected – the Bears will have no choice but to move quickly into the

    And there you have it. He has been adjudged “not good”.

    • to be fair, Jeff has made that claim since Bears signed Glennon. It’s based on watching his Tampa tape, not 8 preseason throws.

      • leftcoastdave

        “In his humble opinion???”

        Many QBs on this level have not been good until they are. Kurt Warner is not the only example. It takes much to come together and those circumstances have never yet gelled for Mike Glennon with any consistency.

        We shall see if it ever does.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          There are a lot more examples of a not good QB continually being a not good QB.

      • Irish Sweetness

        5-13. He has some way to go to make .500.

        He’d need a stretch only achieved one by one James Robert McMahon.

        Born in Jersey City, on August 21st 1959, young Jim graduated from Roy High School in Roy, Utah ….

        • willbest


          Their Defense was dogshit in that time. If you look at the scoreboard for those 18 games there are only two of them Glennon lost while opposition scored less than 22 points. The very first game he started in the NFL they lost 10-13. And then he lost a 13-19 game in OT to the Vikings.

          • CanadaBear

            It’s just the opposite scenario as his heartthrob.

      • * Lovie led TB.

        I feel like there should be a permanent asterisk to that fact.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Glennon probably has to burn the house down before they bench him. After shitting out every single bed in the joint. 18 million dollars. I can’t see it.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        He was signed because they needed a QB, there was no guarantees that Pace would have gotten his guy in the draft, and it gave Pace a safety net.. Glennons contract is a one year deal. My guess is, while Pace doesn’t want glennon to totally shit the bed, he is more enthused the kid he drafted did so well. Pace wants Trubs to succeed more than he wants glennon, and 18 mill to Glennon is not going to prevent Trub from seeing the field.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I just hope they pull the trigger sooner rather than later and not end up pissing game away.

    • DaBearsBlog

      I have told you all Glennon is not good since the rumors of the Bears interest surfaced.

      • SC Dave

        You have. And we’ll see.

  • CanadaBear

    Glad to see some competition for Barth. If Aguayo can get straightened out, he’s got a helluva leg. Probably won’t happen but what the hell, worth a shot. No tears over Robbie getting cut. He was having trouble with accuracy and his KO distance was getting shorter with each kick. One of my all-time favorite kickers (oddly they are all Bears) but he was definitely on the downside. Just wish Barth was better. Oh well.

    I think everyone pretty much expected Jackson would take the FS spot. Before he broke his leg they were talking about him possibly going in the first rd of the draft. Demps and Jackson will be the best safety tandem the Bears have seen in years. That doesn’t mean they will be great but a definite improvement.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      “the best safety tandem the Bears have seen in years” Too bad the safety tandem has been utter shit for years so might not be saying much.

      • Bender McLugh

        outside of Conte you mean, right? right?

        • CanadaBear

          Not exactly!

      • AlbertInTucson

        Yes, that is, definitely, a “left-handed compliment.”

        • CanadaBear

          They will need to play well for at least a year to get a right-handed compliment!

      • CanadaBear

        Gotta start somewhere!

    • King of DBB

      Gould got axed because he was an outspoken rep for the Player’s Union and called the Bears out on several things.

      • Johnnywad

        Add that to missing kicks and kicking short. Not hard to understand why he’s gone.

    • Yeah, I’m not sure if Gould even stuck w the Gmen, or if his stats were comparable to Barth’s.

      Prolly. And Barth was cheaper.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Just a thought…. if Glennon grew a beard – his neckbeard would be EPIC!!! he could shave it and make clothes for the homeless.

  • SC Dave

    From the “Weird Facts About the Bears” file, I offer you Ray McLean, who I did not recollect when stumbling across his career looking at average yards per reception. But I looked at Wikipedia and saw “Scooter”, and the name came back to me.


    Look at that line in 1942. I wonder how many targets that took?


    “Common for the era, McLean played on both sides of the ball, catching 103 passes for over 2,200 yards and 21 touchdowns, while also gaining 412 yards via the running game. On defense, he intercepted 18 opponent tosses, while his special teams work also sparkled with three punt returns for touchdowns, one an 89-yard dash against the crosstown Chicago Cardinals. In his final season in 1947, he also was the team’s kicker.”

    • AlbertInTucson

      How about Beattie Feathers.

      I believe the NFL’s first 1,000 yard rusher.


      Averaged 8+ a carry BUT…

      6 more seasons after that didn’t even total another thousand.


      • SC Dave

        He was interesting. Also averaged 29.0 per reception.

        Another one


        • AlbertInTucson

          GREAT receiver until, sadly, Hill shortened his NFL career with booze.

          He gave up the booze and went on to have an outstanding college coaching career.

          The Harlon Hill Trophy is named for him and given to the most outstanding player in Divsion II.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Don’t forget, Sid Luckman ALSO played both ways and had 17 career interceptions as a DB,including a pick 6.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Long was kicked out of practice for fighting.

  • My stance from the start

    – Trub must sit a bit (I concluded this in Feb b4 he was even on our radar)
    – HOWEVER, if Glennon Clausens it, there’s no choice, esp if Trub looks sharp in PS (“meaningless games”)

    Also, we should ALL be pulling for Glennon.

    If he rebounds and looks good, at WORST we can trade him for like a #2pick, which we can use to further build up our D next draft.

    • SC Dave

      Absolutely. Glennon being a top 10 QB (somehow) would be a dream scenario.

      • Even if he hovers in the 15ish Bradford/Dalton range, that SHOULD be enough for a 2nd or high 3rd.

        Might as well get SOMETHING for that #18M.

        • SC Dave

          No reason to care about the $18M. It’s not our money, and there is no one that was left off the team because of money.

          It is in every way meaningless that Glennon was paid $18M.

          • I don’t really care about the $ in respect to the McCaskeys. If Pace wants to wipe his ass with their $18M, more power to him.

            But I DO care about that $$$ in the sense that extra $13M we paid for Glennon over Hoyer could’ve bought us a nice FA or helped seal the deal on other possible FAs (like say, Alshon).

            That’s what I mean about getting SOMETHING for Glennon.

            More concerned about the $ needlessly being flushed down the toilet instead of being used to improve the roster.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            we still have $20 Mill in cap space. There is no player we could not have gotten. If I remember correctly we were attached to several “big” FA picks the last couple years, those players went elsewhere even if the money was better here. Pace seems to be a little prudent with the checkbook, probably because he came from the Saints and their cap hell. We were and may still be a shitty team.

          • When as a GM you avoid blue-chip FA talent, your team will lack depth and likely suck, esp after taking over a depleted Angelo-Emery roster.

            When you suck, blue chip FAs will go else where or demand more $, which naturally, makes frugal Pace settle for bargain bin FAs like Royal, etc

            Which in turn, make the team suckier, and repels future elite FAs…

            rinse wash repeat

            Two things could be happening.

            1. Pace is in for the long haul and won’t ever get a Pepper’s tier FA trusting his draft prowess (see GB)

            2. He’s biding his time until he thinks we’re close, then and only then, he’ll strike.

            We’re all hoping for #2, but even so, it’s still misguided, ESP now that we have our franchise QB.

            NO reason not to land at least ONE big FA if you’re $20M under the cap.

            It’s not just about this yr, but the next few yrs for when we theoretically make our run.

          • CanadaBear

            The real problem with going after a big FA that isn’t all that, it sets the bar for their salary scale.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Mitchell is clearly next-level compared with Gummo.

  • A7Xthebest

    On another note, Jeff is still cuck-crying all over twitter…sad.

    • SC Dave

      That avi ought to have the Clown out soon.

  • Action Jackson is a gamer. Only concern were those injs. But his tape don’t lie. That’s we have been lacking since forever – a pure FS who doesn’t get skull-fucked by Vadgers every season.

    Jackson showed more ball skills in the 1st PS game than Amos in 3 yrs.

    If he can stay healthy and overcome his metal rod (ahem, White), then he’s an absolute steal.

    I wonder if they’re going to let him keep PR if they feel he’s going to be the starter.

    Often times, HCs don’t like putting their starters on specials.

    • I’d prefer Cohen return punts. Fits his projected role perfectly.

      • yeah, I was pleasantly surprised by Cohem PR in the very 1st PS game.
        They talked about it, but the Bears always talk about a lot of shit, then go conservative and don’t do shit.

        IF Jackson starts, Cohen and even Thompson can PR.

        • SC Dave

          Cohen returned one punt in college. 65 yard TD, nullified by penalty.

          I wonder what might happen if he PRACTICED it.

  • Isn’t this a bit like letting the fox into the chicken coop ? (not OUR Fox, naturally, cuz he’s dimwitted)


    Didn’t we stop joint practices due to inj-prevention or something?

    • an interesting post

      “Belichick is always unfazed. Especially so with joint-practices in which
      he was pretty much ahead of the curve (as usual, according to Sportsonearth) since changes to the 2011 CBA reduced practice time. He’s organized 3 different joint-practice teamups this year alone. And according to Mike Reiss stats show that Belichick rests far more of the
      squad than other teams (40 sat out the preseasoner v Jags, nearly triple that of most teams) because of it all and how he seems to be treating joint-practices as extra preseasoners. Expect Fraudger to retrospectively change the rules (again) and fine the Pats (again) soon
      to the salty cheers of PFT’s trolls.”

      Edit. Diff between joint-practices and PS games

      “There’s a huge difference between the joint scrimmages and preseason games. In the joint practices the respective coaches have total control. Nobody is going off the reservation and taking a cheap shot on Brady. In a preseason game, anything goes.

      The scrimmages are for veterans trying to get ready for the season. The games are for players trying to make the team”

      • King of DBB

        In August?

        These guys aren’t even bothering asking the QBs to call the signals, or use dummy signals that they will chuck by the last game.

        All they want to see is guys line up and see if they can properly execute the play called in the huddle. Can they beat their man? Can they catch, block, run the fucking play.

        All the misdirection and stuff means nothing. bellicheat probably uses the occasion to have the water boy steal

        • That’s pretty much what Bill said. He said that “knowledge” is kinda over rated, which seems a bit counter-intuitive.
          However, he Made the point that Obrien and Vrabel know the Pat’s call and signals as much as they do, so it’s not like they’re gonna give anything away (which begs the question: it’s not so much what knowledge you possess, but HOW you implement and execute that knowledge on game day? Jes. Also, game time adjustments).

          What Bill seems to be doing is treating the joint-practices like PS games, then RESTING his starters much more than other teams for PS games (cuts down on attrition while still sneaking in quality reps?).

          Also, what is not as talked about is that Bill is SCOUTING the other team’s players.

          Last yr I think they ran joint practices vs Saints. Then they traded for Cooks. Coincidence? Winners don’t do coincidences.

          And naturally, Bears do the opposite cuz that’s how you win in the NFL – By doing the opposite of the Pats.

          • King of DBB

            The Bears have such a sad history over the last decade that this generations “celebrity ex-Bear” is Gaines Adams.

            Gaines Adams. Fat Tommie Harris. Who, on his best game, was about as good as one legged Tommie Harris.

          • The difference between the Pats and Bears.

            Bears scout Pats in order to “steal” Le Blanc
            Pats scout Saints to trade for Cooks.

          • King of DBB

            Angelo aborted a trade with the Ravens, but the Ravens thought it went through.

            So they MISSED their turn at the podium.


            God.(Pace Palm). John Harbaugh is still pissed at Angelo for that one. Angelo said “a phone glitch” prevented him from calling the trade in. Hence the name Glitchy.

          • CanadaBear

            I loved that nickname!

          • Haha. I remember that.
            I don’t think the Ravens have done business with us since.

            What a buffoon.

        • SC Dave

          Actually, probably has people paying the maintenance folks to steal a playbook.

  • Random PS question for Ole Timers – Al, Canada, SC, et al

    I was listening to the Grobber and he relayed how the Bears used to play the Packers in PS.

    Was just wondering if any of you guys attended those games?

    Kinda curious how it would go.

    Grobster said that in that game in particular they played to win, unlike PS games today

    • King of DBB

      Fun Fact: Al in Tuscon is Les Grobstein’s dad.

      It’s Al Grobstein.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Only been to 1 preseason game in my life.

      Got to see Walter in the Mike Phipps QB Days.

      I THINK Bears-Packers used to be an annual exhibition tilt and I wanna say it was always in Milwaukee…?

      There was, for a time, an annual “Armed Forces Game” in preseason against the Cardinals and I think that was always at Soldier Field. Maybe a holdover from the days when the Cards were Chicago’s South Side NFL team…?

      • Yeah, u are correct, per usual. Was an “exhibition” game. Haven’t wiki it, but was curious if any of the older regs ever attended.

        Would seem like a cool story.

        • CanadaBear

          I never went to an exhibition game. I had to drive 2.75 hours each way to go to a game so meaningless games were no bueno.

    • CanadaBear

      I’ve got nothing.

    • SC Dave

      Nope. Never went to a preseason game.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I was at the Bears -Steelers PS game in Dublin. We got our asses kicked. That’s all I got.

  • willbest

    “Last (golf) Tweet of 2017.” – Jeff

    Whats the over under on that?

    • SC Dave

      I’ll go with however many up votes this post gets.

  • King of DBB
    • “About 39 percent of Vikings fans would “eat a bowl of cockroaches” for a Super Bowl win, ranking third behind fans of the Carolina Panther (41 percent) and Los Angeles Rams (40 percent).”

      In L.A.s defense, cockroaches are gluten free.
      And the other 39% are on cocaine, and as we all know, it’s a helluva drug.

      This just goes to show…

      shitty siberian post-apocalyptic landfill (MN, CLE,) = diehard
      sunny boobed paradise (MIA, L.A. SD) = doooooon’t care.

      Doc could come up with that formula.

      • willbest

        Are they alive? I have had fried cockroaches before when I visited China. I could manage a bowl of those for an SB win.

        • Were they dipped in chocolate or something? How did they taste? What does one drink with fried roaches?

          • willbest

            No there is a tourist trap in Bejing where they sell all kinds of crazy shit on a stick. The Chinese don’t eat any of it, its basically there for the tourists, and you can dare somebody to eat a spider or silkworm or whatever. The cockroach was crunchy, bitter, and a bit nutty. I didn’t like it, but to be honest if I didn’t know what it was I probably wouldn’t have to be all that hungry for it to be an acceptable alternative to hunger pains.

          • I’m kinda adventurous with foods, but dunno about roaches. According to Crocodile Dundee, can eat all kinds of shit and survive.

            The wierdest thing I heard of state side was congealed blood in SF Chinatown.

            Basically, it’s coagulated blood that looks like jello, and it’s a delicacy.

            My stepbro told me about it. Needless to say, he passed.

            I’ve eaten like kangaroo tacos before. Kangaroo kinds salty.

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        about 70% of Jaguars fans said they would do ass-to-ass for a Super Bowl win.

        (that was a joke….there are no Jaguars fans)

        • 70% of jag fans would prolly do ass to ass if the badminton team place bronze in the Olympics. Doesn’t take much


    • Malice Halice

      Yea I can’t wait to talk about this tomorrow at work. Viking fans r so pathetic n desperate it’s sad. I have to live with em n after last year I hate em even more.

  • Big blow to the Meows. Hyder (DE) torn Achilles.
    He had 8 sacks last yr.

    • willbest

      Oh I glanced at a screen and saw they were pasting Indy. Is Luck still out?

      • AlbertInTucson


        I don’t think he’ll see any preseason action and they are HOPING he and his shoulder will be ready for the opener.

        I listened to part of the Colts’ broadcast on Sirius/XM Sunday while on the road and the Colts couldn’t get out of their own way.

        • Luck’s backup: Scott Tolzien.


          • SC Dave

            Kaep in Indiana? I think not.

          • They’d prefer Scott “I can’t believe I’m not selling cars” Tolzien?

            Well, they sucked for luck once…

          • willbest

            Have they fixed the o-line? I know they finally started putting draft capital in there, but quite frankly if Luck were black, Irsay would be BLM’s enemy #1.

          • Getting a mobile QB would make even MORE sense behind a shitty ass line.

          • SC Dave

            Indiana is one of the most conservative states in the country, Butch. I cannot see the fans being pleased with people sitting out the anthem.

  • Malice Halice

    Any of u guys post about Long scrapping with players today already? Just ready it on espn

    • Sactowns#1

      Usually not a good thing. Probably means he was getting owned out there and got pissed.

      • SC Dave

        The most likely possibility of those posted here.

    • I didn’t think it a big deal. Last yr Larsen and Hicks got into it regularly.

      HOWEVER, according to that article, Long also got into it with some O players? Da fuq?

      They were trying to pull him off then he went after them?


      I don’t think Long will be much of a factor anyways this yr. He’s hurt. he’ll re-inj something or other by week 4. Kush is down so some no-name will fill-in.

      • leftcoastdave

        I read somewhere it was Grassu and that Whitehair was filling in at LG. Grassu went to Oregon. Wonder what, if either of those things, had to do with it.

        • Odd considering Grasu and Long were buds.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Whitehair practicing his new position? Sounds like Kyle’s frustrations with that labrum might be boiling over …

          • CanadaBear

            I’m guessing someone dived at his ankle.

      • Corporal Clott

        I gaurawntee he thought they cheap shotted him.

  • Irish Sweetness


    Aguayo missed 9 of 31 FG attempts as a rookie. His longest was a 43 yarder. ???

  • Joecashflow

    How do you tell a 300# guy to go to his room ?…….Kyle Long sent to locker room after fighting with multiple teammates.

    • SC Dave

      It’s called authority.

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