The Wright Stuff: Veteran Receiver Could Have Big Impact

| August 9th, 2017

It was only one day at camp, but Kendall Wright was running circles around the Bears’ defensive backs.

Admittedly, this is not a great group of corners and safeties, but still one could see the talent that made Wright the 20th pick in the 2012 draft. And it shouldn’t be a surprise if the Bears use him a lot more than Tennessee did in recent seasons.

Part of the reason why Wright is with the Bears is because of his history with Dowell Loggains. Loggains was promoted to offensive coordinator in Tennessee late in the 2012 season. In his first game, Wright had 10 targets, then 9 the following week. The next season, the Titans made an active attempt to get Wright the ball and he racked up 140 targets, catching 94 for 1,079 yards.

(Mike Munchak’s staff — including Loggains — was fired after the 2013 season. Wright had 93 targets with Ken Whisenhunt in 2014, but that total dropped by 32 in 2015 and by 18 more in 2016.)

But there’s reason to believe Loggains will get him back on the right track.

It isn’t just that Loggains seemed to love Wright. It’s that the position Wright plays has a definitive role in the Loggains offense. We saw that last year with Eddie Royal.

In the Bears first six games last year, Royal had 37 targets, which would’ve put him on pace for 99 if he hadn’t gotten injured. He was productive too, catching 29 passes for 338 yards and 2 touchdowns — a 16-game pace of 78 catches, 902 yards and 6 touchdowns — in those games. Royal couldn’t hold up and still hasn’t found another job, but the Bears may have just replaced him with a younger and better version.

In his seven years before joining the Bearsm Royal averaged about 49 catches and 536 yards whereas Wright’s career averages sit at 56 catches and 651 yards, averaging nearly a yard more per catch in his career. Wright is also two years younger than Royal was when he signed with the Bears.

Considering the team’s projected quarterback has thrown underneath more than he’s thrown deep so far in camp, Wright just might be in the right place at the right time. Nobody should be surprised if he makes some big plays for the Bears this year and ends up leading the team in catches.

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  • SC Dave

    Wright could finish first in catches on the Bears. It would be good were he to at least regain form from earlier years.

    I’m thinking, however, that Cohen may end up gaining more yards. But so far he’s only a practice star – come mid-September we’ll learn a lot more.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Cameron Meredith will lead in catches yards and TDs. Probably.

  • ThompsonWay

    I just read an article that said that Wright was almost out the door and that Gentry was going to beat him out for the last spot with the WRs. At least this should be a fun to watch…

  • The Third Guy


  • Most people I’ve seen who have consistently been at camp have said Cruz has been better than Wright so far, which surprises me.

    I’m just hopeful they can get production out of the slot this year without having to move one of their “outside” guys in to do so. I’m intrigued by what should be 4-5 legitimate targets in the passing game. It’s been a while since the Bears had that.

    • King of DBB

      Larry Holmes on the Score said the Bears safeties have been such shit at Bourbonaiss the only measure of these wideouts is pre-season when people who can actually play are coming downhill to hit them.

      • CanadaBear

        I think Demps and Jackson will do OK. If Amos or HJQ are starting, uh-oh.

        • Bender McLugh

          Amos….I really hope he turns the corner this year now that he has at least competent players around him.

          • CanadaBear

            Hope you’re correct. I’m afraid what we’ve seen is all there is.

          • Bender McLugh

            well what I saw was him out of position trying to help, but that may have been smoke & mirror or wishful thinking. He can at least bring the wood….I’m not writing him off yet

          • BerwynBomber

            Corners ain’t gonna help his ball skills, which are non-existent.

          • Bender McLugh

            That’s just mean, and untrue to boot

          • He’ll turn the corner, on special teams, running 80 yds down the field.

    • leftcoastdave

      And of course the biggest and best target of them all at rookie TE.

      Playoffs, baby! Pick off the Pack for the division!

    • Andrew Dannehy

      As far as I know, Cruz hasn’t taken a snap with the 1s, it’s been all Wright.

  • King of DBB

    True-Biscuit will get reps in the 2nd half with the 2nd team this weekend against the Broncos.

    Cohen may be held out – this is the story today – so that the Falcons can’t scout him. (rolls eyes)

    • leftcoastdave

      Secret weapon.

      • King of DBB

        like Webster on roller skates

    • Great. Finally, someone at Halas listening to common sense.

      Need to see Trub in action against REAL players. See what needs work.

  • CanadaBear

    Can Wright turn back the clock and be productive again? Who knows? Not getting excited until I see something. Hopefully he takes this opportunity and runs with it.

    • BearDown100393

      Here is the list of every NFL player who succeeded at turning back the clock.


      • SC Dave

        Missed one, as far as the write-up on Da Site goes (Bears in the Hall)

        “It turned out that Atkins gave the Saints three outstanding years. Happy in fresh surroundings, he played with the zest of a rookie but with the knowledge of a hardened veteran. He was enjoying his finest season ever at the age of 38 in 1968 when he suffered a broken leg late in the season. At it was, he did make the all-NFL second team.”

        And there might be another this year. I’m curious to see if, and by how much, Julius Peppers dials up his game now that he’s back in Charlotte.

        • CanadaBear

          Other than the occasional splash play I thought Pep looked done last year. Who knows? He turns it on and off like a faucet.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Time is undefeated. Hoping that’s what old Floyd Money feels ……

    • The great thing about being a Bear fan this season is expecting ZILCH.

      It’s quite liberating. None of this playoff preseason hope only to go Lovie 7-9/8-8 and juuuuust miss the playoffs deluded into thinking we are anywhere close the Puke and Vadgers, yet alone the rest of the best in the NFL.

      That still doesn’t mean the Bears aren’t worth watching because in some ironic twist, even though we’re expecting nada, this may be the most crucial Bear yr since arguably 2006.

      1. Gonna find out if we FINALLY attained a franchise QB.
      2. Related to the #1, Gonna find out if we finally have a franchise GM
      3. Gonna find out if Fox will get dumped or not.

      Those are the 3 most important questions that WILL get resolved this season, one way or another.

      The playoffs and such are kinda secondary, as odd as that is to say.

      • willbest

        This team could win 3 games or maybe it comes together and wins 10. I have no clue.

        • CanadaBear

          3 wins wouldn’t shock me. 10 wins would most definitely shock me.

          • willbest

            10 wins would shock me, but maybe Jeff is the only sane one and Mitch goes 10-3 after Glennon sprains his neck in week 3.

  • leftcoastdave

    I’m loving the love Shaheen is getting. When he was drafted, I saw an article with a link to him breaking off the wing in buckets, dribbling left handed into the lane for a slam dunk. With hands like that and elevation, this kid can be special.


    • Scharfinator

      Don’t worry, if he’s really good, we’ll trade him away for two empty cans of bud light and a half used cigarette because “he doesn’t fit our system”.

      • SC Dave

        Shut yo mouth!

        No more Olsen trades!

      • Sactowns#1

        Jesus. I just realized the Bears are now following the model of my Oakland A’s. Smh.

      • BearDown100393

        But he can’t block….

  • King of DBB

    FBI raided Paulie’s house today.

    Paulie looks like Liberace’s straight little brother. They share the same wig maker, but otherwise they are not on speaking terms anymore.

    • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

      The FBI conducted a predawn raid of Paul Manafort’s home late last month. Investigators may have argued to a federal judge they had reason to believe Manafort could not be trusted to turn over all records. Mueller investigators searched Manafort’s home for “tax documents and foreign banking records”.

      Orange Chimpanzee better fire Mueller quick. After all, what is wrong with a little treason?

    • CanadaBear

      Shit’s getting real. Pretty sure they will find a gold mine of illegal business dealings once they get to the bottom of all of this.

      • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

        They will find…
        1) Russian money laundering operation using Trump organization in the NY and Florida real estate markets
        2) Under-age Eastern European girls trafficking using Trump Model Management..essentially a high priced escort service
        3) quid pro quo for 1 and 2 above by sucking up to Putin, destroying NATO and thus helping Russia

        • Johnnywad

          They will? No shit? Awesome.

          Now log in with Disqus please.

          • SC Dave

            He’s too insecure.

          • Johnnywad

            Guy’s an asshole.

      • willbest

        Illegal business dealings is outside of Muller’s mandate.

        • CanadaBear

          Pretty sure Monica was outside ken Starr’s mandate and look how that turned out.

          • willbest

            But the target is Trump. Manafort’s illegal business dealings aren’t worth a damn. Are you going to be happy with a Martha Stewart, 2 years for insider trading or some shit at the conclusion of all of this?

          • BerwynBomber

            Stewart served time. She should have received a slap on the wrist, IMV, but she did lie to the Feds.

          • willbest

            It wasn’t hard time. Which is what you are going to get. Mueller can’t say “I spent $50 million and came up with nothing”. So some aid is going to get the scooter libby treatment and be rewarded with a no-show 7-figure consulting job after he serves his 2-3 years.

          • CanadaBear

            Pretty sure the Scooter treatment would include not going to jail.

          • willbest

            I had to go check. I thought he was in there for a little bit before Bush sprung him. You are right, he was staying out of jail while the appeals were going on. He still had to pay the 250k fine and serve probation but Bush commuted his sentence when his appeals were exhausted.

            I wouldn’t put it past Trump to just pardon whoever anyway. He is loyal, and he doesn’t concern himself too much with the politics of his actions.

          • CanadaBear

            Not sure about that loyal part.

          • I don’t know how any sycophants can remain loyal to Trump.

            He ain’t Regan.

            And it seems like 2/3rds of the Rep hate him.

            If I were a Rep, I’d want Trump out so we could move on with the agenda while still in control of the House and Senate.

            But, power politics I suppose…

          • willbest

            What agenda? Trump wasn’t wrong when he called out Mitchy today or yesterday. The GOPe has been campaigning on repeal for 6 years and repeal and replace for 4 years. The wisdom behind doing so aside, it demonstrates the GOP doesn’t have the ability to enact anything.

            Granted, nobody believes their stated agenda has anything to do with their real agenda, but Trump would sign a massive giveaway to Big Business and that bill isn’t sitting on his desk either.

          • It’s not as if the Reps were 10 votes away from repealing.
            If Trump hadn’t done stupid shit, like say war heroes don’t get captured by the enemy, or threatened to punish Alaska, maybe that goes through.

            With more LEADERSHIP, the Reps could push a lot of their issues.

            But instead Trump is going around tweeting like an idiot , hiring/firing everyone, while more and more russian evidence leaks out consuming Rep resources, time, energy and $.

            Trump’s style may excite the lowbrow, but it pisses off a lot of other more moderate Reps. And I’m certain a lot of them are still holding grudges from Trump’s slash and burn campaign.

            It’s not really that the GOP are too divided, it’s just that Trump is too divisive.

            Heck, even Clintion was able to woo a few Rep. Trump can’t even consolidate his own party even with the House and Senate.

            I would argue that’s because essentially he’s more tea-bagger than Rep.

          • willbest

            Votes are always difficult. Whats his butt Heller waiting until the very end to vote for it when he knew it was going down anyway. It happens every vote. The Reps (or Dems) in districts they shouldn’t win get to vote the way that shows they are loyal to moderate local principals so long as their votes aren’t needed.

            You don’t know how it falls if McCain decides to die with honor (ie. doing with what he promised his voters) instead of go out in a blaze of media glory and kudos on the DC cocktail circuit.

          • Can’t he be convicted under RICO for criminal (international) conspiracy and racketeering?

            They don’t send ppl to club med under RICO.

          • willbest

            For having a meeting with a Russian who claims to have dirt on Hillary? Surely you jest. That isn’t illegal. You might say its dirty play, but then so is funneling some bullshit dossier through an ex brit in order to get the FBI to take it seriously.

            I get the desire to see the big guy fall. I was hoping Fast and Furious would get Obama, it didn’t even get Holder and it should have. And then maybe again when Lois Learner was targeting conservatives (and she isn’t in jail either) and then with Lynch on the fucking tarmac. But you have to realize that shit isn’t going to stick.

            The whole purpose of this isn’t even to get Trump. The Dems know that just puts Pence in the driver’s seat, and it very well might start a civil war.

            The whole point of all of this is to neuter Trump so he can’t enact his agenda.

          • Johnnywad

            That was crazy. I would have bet my mortgage she beat that.

          • willbest

            Every now and then they have to make an example out of the elite to give the illusion that the rule of law applies evenly.

          • Johnnywad

            But she was so………. crafty.

          • CanadaBear

            I hope it’s a bunch of dominos and some really shitty people rat each other out.

          • It’s not as if politico bureaucrats are self-serving, cowardly opportunists, right? :O

          • willbest

            DC voted like 95-2 for Hillary. If anybody in that town had a smoking gun, we would know about it by now.

      • BerwynBomber

        But hey, Hillary’s email server. SMFH …

  • ButtonShoes

    “#Bears QB Mitch Trubisky said he’d take LeBron over MJ”

    I can’t say one way or the other if you’re a bust, Mitch. I am beginning to believe, however, that you are flat-out stupid. First you tweet that you’re a Packers/Aaron Rodgers fan, and now this?

    • King of DBB

      Maybe he should now come out in support of Kap.

      And then tell Chicago that Ernie Banks was overrated as a ball player.

    • willbest

      He must have thought he was drafted by the Browns.

    • Sactowns#1

      Nobody ever accused Gomer Pyle of being a genius.

      • AlbertInTucson


    • He also said ketchup on a hot dog is delicious

    • BearDown100393

      Probably thinks Walter was overrated.

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      Hey Brett Favre won a Super Bowl. And no one ever thought he was a rocket scientist.

      Like ever.

      Actually most of us didn’t think he could tie his own shoelaces.

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        I’m waiting for LeBron to go to L.A. and make Kazaam 2.

      • ButtonShoes

        I’m pretty sure he can’t tie his own shoelaces. Brett Favre was, is, and forever will be a dumbass.

  • willbest

    I know you are an emotional wreck, and get off on the belief that there must be a great evil behind your dysfunction but the likelihood that someone smart enough to evade the FBI for over a year keeping incriminating evidence in his house is roughly zero.

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Orange Chimpanzee goes after Paulie using his favorite dirty rag. David Pickerd, owner of national enquirer carries orange chimpanzee’s water.

    National Enquirer‏Verified account

    Donald Trump Advisor Paul Manafort Caught Up In Sick Sex Scandal! http://bit.ly/2vjZHqN

    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      I’m being serious with this question:
      Do you post without a Disqus account so people can’t block your posts in general? I don’t know how the system works but if I was a spammer or a zealot and needed, on a certain level, to know that people had to at least glance at what I wrote then I would follow the same model.
      Am I close?

      • Sactowns#1

        I’m being serious with this question: When Jay takes Miami to the playoffs this year, and they make a run, will you be happy or crestfallen?

        • willbest

          You must have missed his comment yesterday. He already has a teal #6 jersey.

          • BearDown100393

            Who doesn’t?

          • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

            My daughter has one of those pens with multiple colors. One of those colors is Teal. She couldn’t find it this morning. Wonder where it went. Sad!

        • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

          Short answer: Both. I’ll be happy to a degree but pissed it wasn’t us in general. That guy was a warrior and I just appreciated the things he did for the team. I liked feeling like we could win any game. It also made it harder when we didn’t win.
          now I get to watch the Bears and also on about half of the game weeks I get to watch another game that I will have at least some emotional investment in.

          • King of DBB

            Johnny will stand on his back porch naked and pee off the deck into a little fountain with a dolphin in it while his wife takes a butt shot for Instagram

          • Sactowns#1

            I’m kinda in the same boat. It’s like seeing your ex gf with someone new. On one hand you’re happy someone else has to deal with her crazy, but on the other hand you see how happy the new couple is and wonder if that could have been you.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I’ll be happy for him. Love to see him win a SB for them. Having Cutty/Trubs/Shaw would have been great.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Happy for him.

          Crestfallen that it didn’t happen as a Bear.

        • KentuckyBearsFan


      • SC Dave

        Some people are just pathetic, Yonny. This is one of them.

      • AlbertInTucson

        It knows what would happen if it was blockable.

    • King of DBB

      His name is David Pecker. As in… Peckerhead.

      Sentence Use: “The guy who owns the Enquirer is a Peckerhead”

      Now here’s Lemmy doing Bowie. Makes me cry so crank it the fuck up…

    • Johnnywad

      Log in with Disqus please.

  • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

    Zuttah provides versatility at G and C if healthy. The Bears can’t lose Kush, have a hobbled Long, Sitton coming off of injury and then rely on street dudes and rookies.
    Look for the Bears to pick up another OL before the season.

    • BearDown100393

      The perfect O-Line to start a rookie QB.

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        I have stayed away from that whole argument because I am vehemently against that QB pick in general.
        The Bears needed to murder that draft with their top 2 picks with playmakers with almost too many holes to fill and a solid contributor in the 3rd round.
        They chose to fill the one hole with the 2nd pick that didn’t need to be filled right now.

        I hate using Luck as an example because I’m unconvinced of his elite label but look what happens when you leave holes gaping for years. The Colts are lucky as hell that they’re in the AFC South let’s put it that way. It makes it look like they are a consistent playoff contender when in fact they suck balls because they don’t consistently fill holes in their ranks.

        • Counterpoint: the Packers spent a 1st round pick on Aaron Rodgers when they still had years of Brett Favre left. I’d say that has worked out just fine.

          The Colts have had 5 entire drafts since picking Luck. It’s not his fault they’ve drafted like shit. If they were drafting well, they’d be a contender.

          QB is the most important position. You need one to have a chance, and it’s damn near impossible to find one outside of the draft.

          I have no idea if the Bears hit on Trubisky or not, but I’m not gonna fault them for taking their shot when they had a chance at the consensus top QB in the draft.

          • Also, guys like Cam Newton and Eli Manning were drafted onto shitty teams that were contending within a few years. It’s just about drafting well outside of that.

            If you have a chance to draft a guy you believe is a quality NFL QB, you get him. It’s the most important piece, and the hardest to find. You can mask any other position in the NFL being sub-par. You can’t mask QB if you truly want to contend.

            It doesn’t matter if you’re added to a team that’s already good (like Brady, Wilson, and Ben), or one that sucks. If you get a good QB, the opportunity is there to contend, it just takes building a quality roster around him.

          • As Pace refrained, “QBs are the great equalizers”

            He should know coming from NO where their roster was always somewhat unstable, but Brees gave them a puncher’s chance every game, every season.

          • AlbertInTucson

            And hedging their bet with Glennon.

          • Yup. Like I say, if you don’t like Trub, show me the tape as to why, or windex your crystal ball and show me the future.

          • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

            Yes, Aaron Rodgers ended up being a special player but the Packers did not have the gaping holes that the Bears have. They were strong on the OL and were coming off a good year and had playmakers at multiple positions including WR, RB, DL, DB, LB, etc.
            It was a luxury they thought they could afford. The Bears are in a different spot. I understand your point though.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Nobody is railing on Trubs. Yet. But when we could have just sat there and gotten him anyway ….

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            The ownership and management was probably not completely certain that Favre could stay sober. He pretty much washed out in Atlanta during his first year before being traded.

            A guess. He did send pics of his junk to whatever sportscaster in later seasons.

            Maybe it was something out of the limelight that convinced the Packers to draft a QB.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Agreed on all of that.

    • Irish Sweetness

      We should have been picking them up long ago! Fail to prepare …

      Isn’t Grasu healthy? What did we draft him for?

  • willbest

    Looks like James Damore got the Colin Kaepernick treatment. For as much crap as I give Rodger Goodell he seems competent compared to Sundar Pichai. At least the NFL never embarrassed themselves over it. They just blacklisted him when it was convenient, they didn’t take him out while he was the eye of the storm.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Reportedly, Kaepernick has actually had offers but turned them down and the teams were asked not to report that he turned them because, of course, that doesn’t fit the desired narrative.

      He may be getting LOW-balled, but he’s not being BLACK-balled.

      Oh, and the Spike Lee inspired protest is exactly what will NOT help Kaepernick find work in the NFL.

      • Where is it reported that Kap turned down offer?

        I’ve read a lot on the topic, and I haven’t run across one credible report that offered solid $$ numbers that he turned down.

        No way he should’ve landed in MIA for obvious reasons, but when guys like Kessler, Hackenburg, Austin Davis are on rosters…

        Like I said b4, Kap on a purely football ground has regressed, but even a regressed Kap is still better than those dudes, and with waaay more upside.

        He was a pass away from a SB ring.

        Those other guys can only sniff a leftover SB jockstrap they bought from Ebay.

        • willbest

          Maybe he is looking for an opportunity to start rather than be a backup. Like, I would think Russel Wilson’s clipboard holder would be a great fit for him.

          • I personally don’t think he’s a starter. I put him with Cargo in “high end backup”.

            HOWEVER, shouldn’t he get the CHANCE to compete against, say McCown/Kessler, Savage, Hoyer, etc?

            It was the same shit last yr when the 9ers started Gabbert ahead of him when it was OBVIOUS Kap was better (not saying much, but hey, still better).

            Baltimore said they were weighing all the other ramifications about Kap, meaning, the off-field stuff. They were at least more honest about it than others.

            Now, if it turns out that behind the scenes Kap’s heart is not into it, then that’s another matter, but I haven’t heard that.

            Let’s face it. Kap IS being blackballed.

            Now whether it is right or wrong is another matter, but this is a league that still hired a father who ballwhipped his kid, and has in the past hired dudes who threw women on a bed full of AKs, or fought cops at bars.

          • King of DBB

            Since Al Davis is dancing with the Cryptkeeper these days (the real one, not Trestman) – it’s been left to Jerry Jones to pick up the mantle of hiring every scumbag felon he can.

            The Panthers wanted the crown, I mean the Panthers had Rae Carruth on the fucking roster, a guy who ran a drive-by on his preggers baby mama – and ownership of the Panthers is pretty scum – but really it’s been difficult to beat out Jones who so wants to win and be seen as legit in his GM role that there isn’t a corner he won’t cut or felon he won’t give the “everyone needs a 2nd chance” speech about if it helps the Pokes win more.

            It’s hard to reconcile a league full of Shahhid Khans and Jerry Jones who are scumbag assholes of the lowest order and think that the last thing these fuckers want is some social justice warrior who risks taking a knee during the Fighting Falcon flyover and making the faux-patriotism these guys need as the lynchpin of selling the skyboxes and instead risks giving them some semblance of bad press.

          • Apparently, fans are ok with a father ripping a branch off with his bare hand and whipping his kids balls till they bleed, but not ok with an afro-dude taking a knee in protest, not to the military, but to the cops shooting af-ams (on many occasions w little to no cause).


          • willbest

            What AP did was criminal. There is a court system in place. A lot of people figure if the police, lawyers, judges, and social workers are okay with him playing then he might as well play. Afterall, its hard to support your children if you aren’t allowed to work. I pointed it out with Ray Rice too. The NFL hurt that woman more than Ray when they took $5 million out of their pocket.

            What Kaep did was to attack a culture. It might not be a majority culture anymore, but he pissed on a good 35-40% of the country. But that demographic also happens to constitute more than 50% of the NFL viewers. Its bad for business.

            And there is no court of law to address a cultural grievance in. So the punishment doesn’t look like a fine and time served. It takes the form of exile. Which is why I drew the Damore comparison. Because he too attacked a culture, but far more successfully than Kaep since not only will he win his lawsuit against Google, 5 C-level executives are now on record saying his essay about possible non-discriminatory reasons for sex differences in tech has no merit. They might as well just admit guilt in the DoJ’s upcoming sex discrimination suit against them and start negotiating the fine.

          • When Ali said, “No vietnamese boy ever called me ‘n-word'” he was banned from boxing.
            How many ppl did he piss off then? I would say way above 50%.

            But that doesn’t mean barring him from boxing was RIGHT as history has proven.

            Just because more ppl are offended by his kneeling than whipping a kid’s balls (or torturing dogs, etc) doesn’t make it RIGHT.

            I don’t believe any owner should be forced to hire him or anything because that’s a dangerous precedent, and it might make business sense, but that doesn’t mean what’s happening to him is RIGHT.

            I was watching a lil PS action tonight. Here’s a few QBs taking live snaps. Derek Anderson, Joe Webb, Kellen Moore, Blaine Gabbert, Brandon Weeden…

            I mean, C’mon, man! Joe fucking Webb? Gabbert!?

            Ppl talk about “snow flakes” – how sensitive do you have to be to consider kneeling WORSE than throwing a girl on a bed of AKs, or fighting cops at a bar?

            I asked one of my marine friends what he thinks about Kap kneeling.

            His response –

            “Who gives a fuck?”

          • BerwynBomber

            But Kap took a political stance. I’m generally on his side of the political aisle — though I sense he’s a fucking moron — but if you take a hardcore political stance roughly 50% of America is not going to like you for it.

            Plus, AP was tried criminally, wasn’t he? And he was certainly punished by the NFL. A full year in fact.

            Like you said, Kap is a high-end back-up/low-end starter. Most teams — even setting aside his politics — would rather not deal with that sort of distraction for 17 weeks or more.

            Basically, when your back-up QB is in the news as much as Kap might be, you have potential QB controversy on your hands (even if one of a completely different stripe). It was similar with Tebow.

            Btw, I think NO made a mistake in signing AP. Would be surprised if he has anything left.

          • Yeah, Ali took a stand, and he was right, and “america” was wrong. So we’ll see.

            Tmrw we’re going to see Chad Kelly. who on top of running unto the field to fight HS football players…

            ‘was kicked off squad for “conduct detrimental to the team” in April 2014, then was arrested eight months later after being accused
            of punching a bouncer at a bar a friend had been thrown out of,
            threatening to open gun fire in the bar, and getting into an altercation
            with police upon his arrest (he pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct
            and was sentenced to a conditional discharge that included community

            But hey, Uncle Jim Kelly placed a good ole boys call to Elway, so everything’s fine.

          • BerwynBomber

            But Ali was a) tremendously charismatic and articulate (as athletes go), b) went to jail for his cause, and c) was arguably the most popular athlete in the world at the time (which to a large degree was based on his achievements/talent).

            Kap is … well, Kap.

            I generally support his cause and CERTAINLY support his right to protest, but I also support the right of owners to say, yeah, I will take a pass on that.

            P.S. hear you about Kelly, but bad actors in the NFL are a dime a dozen.

          • Irish Sweetness

            It’s hypocrisy, pure and simple. 20% of NFL players will be charged with a serious crime at some point. Rape a girl in a toilet, jus’ keep throwing them bullets. Wrap a phone cord around your wife’s neck .. jus’ win baby.

            Dude kneels down in a stadium of 80,000 people ….

            Hey … he dissin’ the song yo ……


          • willbest

            A large chunk of NFL paying customers is who

          • Irish Sweetness

            Do they not believe in the freedom of speech?

          • willbest

            I told you before Irish, free speech doesn’t exist anymore. And Damore/Kaep thing is a solid test. If you think Damore should have been fired, while believing Kaep should be employed or vice versa, you don’t believe in free speech either.

            Free speech is the product of a subset of Brits who happened to be the group that founded the US. That is why the US was unique in not only its FS laws but in the genuine application of those laws. But that group of Brits isn’t running the US anymore. That is why speech codes and codes of conducts are the norm everywhere. Nobody seems to care that Human Resources and Legal developed them to prevent from being sued by the government under Title VII. So in fact the government has been punishing free speech for 50 odd years. Not that it matters these days. Thanks to the internet, the common man is more than capable of forming their own virtual lynch mob and scaring a company into firing an employee for something as trivial as a failed attempt at humor.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Well said Butch. You can’t have freedom of speech AND slag Kap off.

            Ali is a funny case. He was a racist mofo and a mean sonofabitch. He would say the most racist things on British TV when he was on talk shows back in the day. He develops Parkinsons and then all the kids see is an old man that lopes around real slow.

            The media created that whole thing. If no cameras go seeking Kap out … there’s no story. Some guy is on one knee in a stadium?

            “Who gives a fuck?”


          • Irish Sweetness

            When a culture is more respected than flesh and blood, human life …

            Did Kap attack culture? Or did he express his feelings on race and foreign policy? Aren’t those freedoms the ones that include the right to express himself?

            I didn’t even know Kap was black until he grew a fro.

          • willbest

            Culture is absolutely more important than any individual. That should be obvious. If you look at the wars the US has fought, very few of them have been necessary in order to preserve life, limb, and property. I am not the greatest student of history, but my observation is that is fairly true all around the globe.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Have to admit, Seattle supposedly offered him less than $1M per.

            Pretty much a NON offer, even to hold a clipboard.

            MY last impression of Kap is that awful showing against, of all teams, the Bears.
            “Meh, he sucks, now.”

            But, I looked up his 2016 stats.

            90 rating, 16 TDs, only 4 INTs, over 6.5 per attempt AND 469 rushing with 2 TDs.

            “Hmm, guess he DOESN’T suck.”

            That said…

            He’s entitled to his views BUT actions have consequences, ESPECIALLY actions on “Company Time” and Sunday afternoon in the NFL is “Company Time”.

            Would you import a giant distraction into your team’s locker room?



    OK, Jabronies, I’ve been hearing some rumblings about FF, so, once more into the breach.

    In spite of late season shannigans by Waffle and Trac to essentially defeat me, I still made the playoffs though lost.

    Shady won it, so tip o the hat to that jerk.

    According to my maths, I think either Shady or I have won it the past 4 yrs straight.

    It’s like Rounders and he’s Matt Damon and I’m KBG, and you grinders are the other guys at the table.

    So, with that being said, who’s in?

    I think I still have the email of NBIT, Ender, Artoo, Sac, Shady, Trac, 505, GP, Irish and whoever else was in the league last yr.

    Ideally, same set up. 12 team -2Qb, auction, lots o points, trades, etc.
    Ideal time, 3rd PS game (barring no holy holidays).

    Respond who’s in, then I’ll keep a list. When we get enough, I’ll create Da League, send invites, and let the madness begin (How much will Howard go for? Who will cost more, Glennon, Trub, Hoyer, or Jay? Will Meredith go for more than Alshon? hmmmm)

    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      I have learned my lesson about blowing my wad early and have consulted my brother in law about draft strategy.
      It is safe to say that I will finish in the top 5 this year.

      • Irish Sweetness

        There’s 4 spots available right behind me in first, brother. I don’t care who’s second.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I’ll prolly set up a snake draft for the folk who don’t dig Auction.

      Saturday morning draft good?

  • Malice Halice

    D-Watson 20+yrd attempts are looking horrible. Poor accuracy indeed, he has extended plays tho

    • willbest

      Is he fumbling the center exchange?

    • He’s looking exactly how I expected.
      Happy feet.
      And he looks much slower at this level.

      Man, the NFL is no joke. Those fat dudes close in way faster than in college.

      • willbest

        I haven’t heard anything about Kizer, Trub or Watson that has me believing they are where Wentz was about this time last year. Mahomes is getting some buzz, which is all the more impressive considering Alex Smith is definitely a starting caliber NFL QB, although not somebody that is going to put a team on his shoulders.

        • Watson looks poised and accurate on the short to intermediate throws. He’s even making some line adjustments.

          But he has that Vick frame without the speed.

          It’s only his 1st real game, but you can tell he’s not used to the speed yet.

          One time he began sliding and a S was just going full throttle on him, and I think he would’ve nailed him if it wasn’t PS.
          Also when he was rolling out to his left he barely threw it before the backside pursuit almost crushed him from behind.

          Gotta see if he adjusts to the speed and not try to do too much.
          He’s also gotta prove eventually that he can throw it more than 15 yds.

          And on that note, he just ran it in 15 yds for a TD lol

        • Irish Sweetness

          Anyone remember when Alex was the worst QB in the NFL?

          • Johnnywad

            Didn’t he go a season without throwing a TD to a WR?

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            He got better and became Super Kyle Orton. For a while. Though I don’t know if he regressed without Harbaugh.

            Heck Dilfer won a Super Bowl with a great defense. Smith was way way better.

            Look at the Niners qb’s now….and that’s not good.

      • SC Dave

        Way, way faster.

        • AlbertInTucson

          You don’t get to play South Southeast Teachers College at this level.

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        Those 250-300 pounders in the NFL are like sumos with robotic legs

  • willbest

    ESPN to be a streaming service next year? I still won’t get it.

  • King of DBB


    Ouch. Kudos to Deadspin for taking some vicious shots at the NFL in this installment.

    Best line in comments: fuck Mike Shula with Usher’s cock.

    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      Haha, ushers dirty cock

  • King of DBB

    This one is for the Circus Clown. Dude, get a Disqus login. I promise not to block you if you do:

    — From Bills Deadspin:
    2014: Donald Trump places a comically low bid for the team. Everyone laughs and mocks him, and the fan base prays that the Pegulas get the team. They do. But if Trump had made a decent bid and bought the team, I doubt he would’ve run for president. I also contend that nothing would be different for the Bills. Trump 100% would have hired Rex and then fired him. This organization would still be a terrible garbage heap, but by taking the Trump bullet we could have spared the country the same fate. Now Trump is turning the US into the Buffalo Bills of countries: a horribly mismanaged shithole full of rock-dumb racist drunks screaming “We Need To Go Back To The Good Old Days” while fingering the nearest unwiped asshole and vomiting on the family in front of them. Fuck Trump and fuck this stupid team.

    • BerwynBomber

      Speaking of the Bills, remember former DBB draft darling Reggie Ragland? Saw that dude is playing on their 3rd team at this point. Sounds like serious cut potential.

      • 3rd string? lol

        Irish wanted him in the 1st.

        Now you know why i called him Robo-Ragland, Irish.

        Dude was as stiff as Robocop.

  • BerwynBomber

    Joe Webb is still in the league? Holy crap. And he is “only” 30? Seems like another era when he was playing for MIN.

  • KentuckyBearsFan

    Did the Titans run out of money? Wasn’t Wright their best receiver for years?

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