My Five Favorite Players in the NFL Draft

| April 25th, 2017

I am not over-complicating things here. I think this is an extremely deep draft at a wide range of positions. But these are the five guys I like best.

#5 Jake Butt

Before injury, I thought Jake Butt was Jason Witten. Big, tough, physical, elusive in the open field, great hands…etc. Then he suffered one of the saddest injuries in many a moon. Supposedly he’s ahead of schedule to return – timetables range between mid-July to October – and who knows how far that will drop him on draft boards. But I can’t imagine a player of this caliber making it to Saturday.

#4 Obi Melifonwu

I actually watch Connecticut football. I don’t know why that’s the case, other than maybe geographic proximity, but I do. Obi is the real deal. Someone with his athletic ability paired with a 6’4″ frame is beyond rare. It’s unheard of. I think this kid is going to be a star.

And from the internet: “The 11-9 broad jump was the second-best number the combine has seen since 2003, behind only the record 12-3 recorded by Dallas defensive back Byron Jones in 2015.”

#3 Christian McCaffrey

You put McCaffrey in an inventive offense and he’s going to be one of the most exciting players in the league starting September 10th. Let him return kicks and punts. Give him 10-15 carries a game. Stick him in the slot a dozen or so times a game.

#2 Mitchell Trubisky

I just like the kid. I don’t see one element of his game that won’t translate to the next level. And if the Bears pulled the trigger on him with the third pick, I’d be pretty damn excited about their future.

#1 Solomon Thomas

I have been waxing poetic about this player for months and nothing that’s happened since his epic performance against North Carolina in the bowl game has changed that. If you want to drown yourself in the inanity of “technique talk” you’ve come to the wrong place. Thomas is a special player and a smart defensive coordinator is going to move him up and down the line and rely on his relentlessness to destroy games.

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  • Bender McLugh

    First Andrew’s piece, now Jeffe’s, all in one day. How nice!

  • King of DBB

    My five favorite Da Bears Blogger contributors

    #5 – Andrew Dennehey – I’d like to rank him higher, but his posts are often factually riddled with errors and contain conclusions that his own premises don’t support. He has poor taste in draft choices and I have to admit to skipping through some of those posts.

    #4 – Data. Data is a bit data-driven, but he usually concludes something of merit from his analysis. He also tends to focus on the correct things and draws decent conclusions, ones much more empirical than Andrew.

    #3 – The Reverand Rants. Once more prolific than today, he’s a fast talking African Missionary with more profane metaphors than Nick Cage on a 3-day bender. I imagine hanging with the Rev involves a lot of time responding to the phrase “I cannot fucking believe…x,y,z… just happened.”

    #2 – Adam Jahns. Adam is like a little Biggsy. He hasn’t, however, developed Biggsy’s arrogance (or girth), as Biggsy will be just so-damn-over-it on Mully and Handley, and Adam is sincere and informed and will tolerate some of the groaners Jeff throws at him.

    #1 – Blogfather. Inventor of such radio staples such as: hearing the phone ring at the start of interviews. The mega-awkward greeting followed by the cannonball dive into the Bears subject matter. The use of Bongos. Nasty limericks. Goofy melodies. Obsession with the WRONG SPORT, obsession with a game that is NOT REALLY A SPORT. Unwavering conviction that the veteran should NEVER be cut, under any circumstances. Blogging is not the same w/o The Blogfather, and like the Godfather it’s a bit like reading Sonny Corleone’s blog – you never know when it will run a little hot and seek to pummel you with a trash can lid in the middle of a summer day.

    • Aren’t you still owed special op ed from Jeff?

      Cash in the chip on Thurs, GP.

      Get typing on your manifesto brah!

    • CanadaBear

      I give Jeff credit for leaving us alone and having a pretty thick skin. A few of us have needled him over the years and he takes it like a champ. Something to be said for that! Only place I hang out.

      • Copious amounts of booze!
        I also always figured it was a New Joisey thing


        • CanadaBear

          That and he probably doesn’t read 90% of it.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I love that he loves golf more than football.

  • BearDown100393

    My five favorite Nirvana tunes

    #5 – Dumb. I think rankings are dumb. Or maybe I’m just happy.

    #4 – Sliver. Grandma take me home. Virginia, Ted wants to go home. Grandma take me home.

    #3 – Smells Like Teen Spirit. Brought Jay to ecstasy before every game.

    #2 – School. Wouldn’t you believe it. It’s just my luck. No draft stud.

    #1 – Dive. Mike Glennon. #1 pick in 2018. Dive. Dive. Dive. Dive’n tank.

    • Shea eyes me like a Pisces when I am weak
      I’ve been locked inside your heart-shaped box for 16 weeks
      I’ve been drawn into your magnetar pit trap crap
      I wish I could eat your cancer when you turn black
      I’ve got a new complaint
      Forever in debt to your draft day advice
      I’ve got a new complaint
      Forever in debt to your draft day advice
      I’ve got a new complaint
      Forever in debt to your draft day advice, your advice

      • BearDown100393

        Next up: Rape Me

        • Apparently only if we draft Conley.

          (Too soon!)

          • SC Dave

            If you mean pre-plea bargain, you’re right!

            I keed… has he been convicted yet?

          • No. Just accused. And by his response, he doesn’t seem too worried about it.

            But who the heck knows anymore?

            It’s just getting silly the nearer draft day approaches. Last yr it was the gas mask. Then Collins linked with the murder of his pregnant ex. Now this with Conley.

            I guess crime doesn’t stop for the draft, but I don’t think the accusations, pics, leaks flop out near draft day accidentally.

            It’s definitely meant to cause the most damage possible to accused.

  • Ososfan

    I’m just here so I don’t get fined. Kinda tired of all this draft speak, really. We definitely need another TE and S. I’ve joined the Adams train since there are some legit OLB destined to fall to second or third round with starting potential.. I’m pretty happy we run a 3-4 D. There are some killas out there in the middle this year..

    • SC Dave

      To me, I’d never think about Adams over, say OJ Howard, EXCEPT for the leadership thing.

      And that is as important an attribute as any, and more than most.

      I so want a crazy general amidst the D. Somehow, despite being a fucking baller and our best defender, Freeman does not *feel* that way.

      Just like Briggs could never have done it. I FUCKING WANT our new BU. We missed Luke, but we had no real chance to draft him. He was the perfect Bear.

      While the best MLB* in football is OUR Bears fan birthright (damnit!), if we get it from a safety, I’m over the top good with it.

      * started with ILB as a concession to the 3-4, but fuck that.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Who is the best ILB in this draft?

  • King of DBB

    Jay agent says… come on guys, Jay can still play. He doesn’t disrespect the flag or faux-patriotism, he’s a surly cat, but he still has game..


    • Sad.

    • BearDown100393

      Jay Cutler, Iowa Barnstormer. And still just the 2nd best QB in team history.

      • Irish Sweetness


        Don’t all you start honey-dicking Cutler as the #2 after all the shit you guys give him.

        Luckman wouldn’t survive an Eighties NFL defense.

        Jim remains numero uno. 25-0.

        • BearDown100393

          lol 2nd best BARNSTORMER

  • Alex

    Perfect. The Bears are likely to be able to get nearly all of them in the draft.

    Mitch Trubisky (QB), Obi Melifonwu (SS), Jake Butt (TE), Julie’n Davenport (OT) + Ryan Switzer (WR), Carroll Phillips (OLB), Tariq Cohen (RB)

    + Jaye Howard in FA

    The Bears could consider a corner in the 3rd round and risk trying to get Butt in the 4th round. If he’s not there they could go for George Kittle instead.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Either QB plus Obi would be sweet. So much to look forward to.

  • Butt has been the forgotten man in the media since his injury. Would love to see him as a Bear. They have an extra round 4 pick right now…

    • BearDown100393

      Just asking….. how beat up are Jim Harbaugh college products?

    • AlbertInTucson

      Think he lasts that long?

      Gronk was coming off BACK surgery from U Arizona (Hardly “Tight End U”) when New England grabbed him.

      Have to figure someone pulls the trigger on Butt before the 4th.

  • Andy – team Watson
    Jeff – Team Trub

    (both team Cargo).

    Nuff said.

  • Butt will be Jeff’s Whitehair pick this draft. From Jeff’s lips to Halas’ ear.

    Conley might drop now too. Anyone know what’s up with that?

    Sydney Jones another all-team dropper who some are saying STILL might go in the 1st even with no achilles.

    I like Thomas as well. He’s more athletic than McPhee, so I’m not worried about him not having a “natural” spot. In fact, if you draw up a prototypical 3-4 OLB, Thomas comes close to the blueprint.

    Aren’t McCaffreys always available in the NFL? Seems like the Pats always pick one up off the streets and win SBs with em for cheap.

    Don’t call me Mitch Trub.

    I actually think he’s more NFL ready, but there’s something in his personality lacking. He reminds me of some dude I knew who went swimming in vegas with his leather wallet just so he could chill by the pool bar and pay with his soaked dollar bills.

    I’d still prefer Peterman in the 4rth.

    • MB30SD

      Look down on conley.

      Holy shit do you see Thomas’ arms in that shot above?!?

    • Big Mike

      Big Mike was on the Whitehair train before Jeff. Just saying.. I feel like the scout that discovered him 🙂

      • BerwynBomber

        You were. My claim to recent draft fame is Mariota as there was overwhelming doubt about him on DBB (system guy, hadn’t dropped back since HS if ever, rinky-dink O, got buried by OSU in the title game, etc., etc.), but I stuck with him, even though Scott from WI (who never posts anymore) deserves the grand prize as he was basically saying the Bears should move heaven and earth to try to move up to get him.

        (Which to a degree, it sounds like Pace tried.)

        • Big Mike

          Mariota.. that’s right. Pace gave it a try. Remembering that, makes me feel good. He knows what “it” looks like at QB. My guy this year is Garett Bolles OT- Utah http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/garett-bolles?id=2558014. His grade is pulled down by correctable flaws. (lower body strength). He’s mean, athletic, quick feet, coachable. 6’5” 300lbs. Three cone result, best in the draft, broad jump 2nd, 20 yd shuttle 2nd, 40 yard dash 2nd.
          Problem is this draft is so thin at OT, he’s on the radar. Most years he’s not on the radar. If he slips to the third he’d be a steal. He won’t start right away, but he’ll be a 10 year starter in the NFL at LT, that’s my bet. I think Pace is going to go Adams, QB, then best player available.

          • SC Dave

            Well fuck it, call Pace and tell him to take Bolles in round 2

          • Some say Bolles is the best OT in this draft, and the only one who has the chops to play LT if necessary. He’s overcome a lot, so I’m def pulling for him.

            Only drawback is he’ll be a 25 yr old rook.

            Which is 1 yr older than Long when he entered.

          • Bolles aint’ lasting till the 3rd Mike. No way.
            He’ll go in the 2nd at latest for all the reasons you mentioned.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I agree he will not last.

            This draft is not deep in O-Linemen.

            Frankly, neither is the NFL.

          • Big Mike

            You’re right. And I wouldn’t prioritize him at 36. Maybe Pace can trade back into the 2nd to get him. Would love to one time see an NFL Draft Board.

          • Irish Sweetness

            We need to draft him in 2, Mike. Won’t be there in 3. Sayin’ it for weeks.

            Have to pull the trigger in 2.

          • Big Mike

            At 36 I don’t think I’d take him. I believe that at 36 we go defense. My preference is defense on the first 2 picks. My dream scenario, is Pace trades back into the second round. He will be gone by 3 you are right. I’d say he’s top 15 in the 2nd round. He needs some time before he starts at LT.

        • SC Dave

          I was big on Thomas probably earliest, but only because I got crazy when Irish, in a rather ho-hum way, first posted film here.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Saying he should be a Center??

        We drafted a tackle to play guard .. .that ended up at Center.

        Nobody saw that coming.

        • Big Mike

          Whitehair had that look. He was a football player. We didn’t draft him to play tackle. He only played tackle in college because he was by far their best player. His position was Guard. The fact that he played Center as well as he did in the NFL tells you how good he was. The last time before the NFL he played Center was in HS.

    • SC Dave

      I think McCaffrey is going to be a fucking STAR.

      FFS i hope Darth Hoodie does not get him.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I’d still take Henry over Whitehair.

      We ALL agree we should have kept Slauson .. in that case there would have been no drafting of a Guard.

  • MB30SD
    • Sheesh.

      Maybe Will’s woman bashing is rubbing off on me, but I’m getting rather suspicious of the timing of some of this stuff.

      That being said, if he’s guilty, he deserves to go to federal ass-pounding prison.

      I was pretty hardcore last draft about NOT drafting Collins cuz he might’ve ya know murdered his pregnant ex, but how the fuck does a GM even weigh this shit? “Yeah, he might be a baby murderer, but wow, look at those feet!” Crazy shit.

      • Big Mike

        I don’t know if you are a Cubs fan or not, but when Epstein and Hoyer began the rebuilding process, they talked about high quality individuals. They made it as important as bat speed. They stuck to their beliefs and made it happen. (I just finished reading a trilogy of books about the Cubs).

        • BearDown100393

          And happen to work for the Ricketts family. NTTIAWWT

          • Big Mike

            I don’t understand the point.

        • Which books are those, Mike? Sound interesting.

          I read that the Pats work more or less the same.

          That they target those who actually attained their degrees, esp in real fields.

          Showed dedication.

          Dunno how much of it is true. There’s always a threshold I suppose.

          For me, that line was alleged baby murder

          Turns out Collins was cleared, but still, I don’t regret the stance.

          To me the possible alternative was worse, “Oh, you like the Bears? Aren’t they the team that drafted that baby killer?”

          • BearDown100393

            Aaron Hernandez

            New England Patriots high standards applied

          • Yeah, like I said, there’s a threshold.
            In college though Hernandez was just “thuggish”.

            But I mean, lots of badasses are kinda thuggish.

            Not many of them turn out to be a serial killing Blood though.

          • King of DBB

            Turns out Hernandez killed because he didn’t want people knowing he bottomed.

          • His movie will make BrokeBack Mountain look like a cartoon.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He could have just retired and moved to Thailand.

            What an idiot.

          • Big Mike

            The Plan by David Kaplan – exception look at some details you’d never see.
            The Cubs Way – Tom Verducci – field level insight. Some of the same info as “The Plan” but a great deal of unique insight to the human aspect of. (Chapman, crying in the dugout alone in game seven.., grabbing the author/reporter’s hand to balance himself)
            My Cubs: A love story – a personal journey by the author Scott Simon. You’ll either connect with it and try to read it one sitting or you won’t finish it. I loved it.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I thought Biil Walsh’s book was the bible for coaches?

          • Big Mike

            Walsh’s book is quoted several times in “The Plan”. “The Plan” is more of a book telling the story of how Ricketts’ ownership plan and Epstein’s plan came together and meshed. It’s a book that the McCaskey’s should give to the next owners 🙂

          • SC Dave

            On the degree thing, when I was consulted about hires, showing the commitment to a long term goal was always big.

        • King of DBB

          Baseball is a sport that does not crush your body and destroy your brain.

          Ernie Banks made it to old age, and could walk and talk.

          Football needs stone cold killers. As Nicholson says in the Departed, we are all on our way out – act accordingly.

          • Big Mike

            Don’t buy it. Football is indeed different. But character should matter. I believe in second chances for most actions. Forgive me for drawing the line at murder, rape, baby killing, wife / gf abuse and torturing dogs. Get busted for weed, come join my team.

          • SC Dave

            Fucking this. Character should, and does, matter.

            It’s why I dont want recidivist losers on MY team.

            It’s why, despite not giving a rat’s ass about basketball, I love the Spurs.

            Good guys DO NOT have to finish last.

            In fact, they can win more than any franchise in any pro sport anywhere on the planet. You know, like the Spurs.

            They are the model for what I want the Chicago Bears to be.

            Soon… before I’m too old to witness them being the most pride worthy team of all, for, say, 20 years.

          • MB30SD

            and it’s one of the reasons we SUCK.

          • I know from playing the 3 major sports that football is another animal altogether. It’s no coincidence that the “craziest” football players also tend to become the leaders, esp on D.

            Does McPhee sound rational or more like Animal Mother?


            “KANSAS CITY, Mo. – It was as if the Chiefs had slapped outside linebacker Pernell McPhee in the face. Repeatedly.

            “They had disrespected me three times in a row, running the counter at me, and they busted it three times,” McPhee said. “I looked at my guys and said, ‘That was on me. I’ve got to make a play.’

            “The field-goal opportunity came, and I just made a play. I just beat the guy with a swim move and got my hands up.”

            And blocked Cairo Santos’ kick.


            “We gonna tear their ass up,” McPhee said of Eli Manning and the Giants (6-3), via ESPN.com.
            “I don’t care what everybody else did. We gonna sack him. He can throw
            the ball as many times as he wants — we gonna sack him. I’m gonna make
            sure of that.”


            After the Packers won the season opener at Soldier Field, quarterback Aaron Rodgers said, “It’s always fun beating the Bears.”

            That didn’t sit well with McPhee, the outside linebacker who’s relatively new to the rivalry. So he let those emotions fester, channeled them and then applied them during Thursday’s 17-13 victory at Lambeau Field.

            “Thequarterback said he loved beating up on us,” McPhee said after Monday’s
            practice. “Who does he think we are? We ain’t the team of last year or
            two years ago, three years ago. It’s 2015 Chicago.”

            Never mind that the Bears did beat the Packers at Lambeau in2013. That was their only win in the previous 10 games against the Packers until Thursday.”We went in there and we slapped him on his ass,” McPhee said. “They need to go ask them how that feels.”

            BTW, Vadgers said it feels faaaaabulous! (NTTAWWT)


          • MB30SD


          • BearDown100393

            Sam Hurd

          • Big Mike

            Isn’t that the truth. I like what Pace is doing. He is bringing in a certain attitude. Getting rid of Marshall, was a big deal. Alshon, not as big on the character side, because he was too expensive, but still a big deal. Even Cutler. I think Jay has tremendous poise and character to put up with shit the Bears put him in. Fuckin Marc Trestman. Goddamn that pisses me off. Glennon is as solid a citizen as you could get. A great team player. He won’t piss off the media. The guys he’s drafting are athletic, they aren’t cry babies.

            I think we are getting younger, faster, meaner and more committed. Now with that approach we may never have any great Wide Receivers, because those guys are just born selfish assholes. 🙂

          • I agree. I think football requires more fanaticism than other sports simply because of how unnatural it is.

            The natural course for a normal person is to REMAIN HEALTHY.

            This is like a Darwinian imperative since before we were baboons.

            But the NFL is the exact opposite. Ppl play it KNOWING they’re gonna get hurt. 100% chance of it. Some players can’t even walk on mondays come mid-season, but are ready to re-enter the human car crash come Sun or even Thurs.

            What kinda mentality does one need for that?

            A fucking crazy one.

            And sometimes that crazy bleeds off the field.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Are you kidding? I’d do it in a heartbeat! I did it for free!

        • SC Dave

          Hmmm…. kinda like the Spurs.

          Of course, they got a little lucky in the lottery to have the chance to take Duncan.

          • Big Mike

            There’s a little luck in building a dynasty.

      • BearDown100393

        Bill Parcells fails to understand your point.

    • Ososfan

      Read about that this morning, but they didn’t want to mention anything until more concrete evidence was there….

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus
    • Irish Sweetness

      Who would know that? Why wouldn’t they be talking to the Bears at 3?

      If they want a QB they can’t afford to go lower than that.

  • SC Dave

    I have to love all your choices, other than Trubiski. But maybe you are dead right on him.

    For some reason, I think that guy Barnett from Tennessee, or Thomas (and honestly, I think I was on that train at least as early as you) are going to be the guys.

    Yes, Garrett is everyone’s #1 defender. Just like Zeke was everyone’s #1 nonQB offensive player. Too bad Jordan didn’t start all year to outgain him.

    • Sahr Gborie

      Our OC is very short sighted. J.Howard should have been the one to break the rookie rushing record on the way to ROY.

      If he could not recognize J.Howards talent how can we expect him to see let alone bring out and maximize the talent of a poor QB class?

      • CanadaBear

        There may have been pressure to keep Langford in there from POX. Who knows? I was dubious of Nathan Lane but the offense at the end of the year was certainly better than the D. He coaxed decent games out of Hoyer and Barkley. The D was in jail break mode at that point.

        • Yup. D packed it in.

          And Langford IMO was a total Fox call.

          He’s “old school” letting vets play too long. Left Long in there till he was nearly in wheel chair instead of inserting a healthier Kush much sooner.

          It’s part of the Fox MO.

          • CanadaBear

            Totally agree. I couldn’t believe Kyle was playing his last 2-3 weeks. WTF are they thinking? Franchise OLman that you just signed long-term and run him out there at maybe 50%. Insanity.

          • MB30SD


      • Johnnywad

        Jesus. Enough with this didn’t recognize it. You mean in camp? Maybe it took the rook a second to catch fire. Maybe he needed to learn. Holy shit. You make like the guy didn’t play all year. He had vets in front of him that he had to leap frog. That’s how it works.

        The guy was a fifth rounder. The whole god damn league missed him four times. It’s not like he was a known commodity at the beginning of camp.

        You keep bashing the OC for turning a late rounder into one of the best rushers in the league in less than one season. Or at least opening the door for the kid to do so himself. I don’t get it.

        • Irish Sweetness

          In fairness, he should have been starting. He’s a different animal to Langford.

          I can’t have been the only one saying he should start in week one.

          • Johnnywad

            I would bet they wanted to see him play ball in real games before they kicked their presumed starter to the curb. Preseason carries against dudes that are now selling refrigerators don’t always indicate future success.

            He transitioned to the primary back quickly enough to show he was one of the 3 or 4 best rushers in the NFL. Why isn’t that a success? I don’t understand.

            Coaching is hard. Very hard.

      • leftcoast dave

        Stoopid. Second guessing waaaaay to much here. What was, was good. What you think could have been is at best idle speculation.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Eh … the OC doesn’t do the drafting?

  • BerwynBomber

    The Saints sign AP to a two year deal. Except for Brees, that organization has a stench of Browns South about it.

    • AlbertInTucson

      The Saints DO own a Super Bowl title.

  • Tortured Bear fan

    I got a feeling that bears picks….. Mahomes

    • BerwynBomber

      At #3?

      • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

        Yes, there are plenty of fans who are that desperate for a qb pick at #3.

        I got a feeling that there is going be a massive freakout among Bears fans, especially those want a qb at #3, when the pick will be completely out of the left field.

        • SC Dave


          • That’s my #1 darkhorse.

            He doesn’t have the insane athleticism that Pace fancies, but Barnett broke Reggie White’s sack record and is a man-mountain.

            He kinda reminds me of Suggs. Not a combine freak, but just a monster.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I saw that. Beat Reggie’s record. But Reggie was man-sized.

            Got to beat Reggie’s NFL records, and at 6’3 260, he won’t be doing that.

        • MB30SD


          • Johnnywad

            But also the Thompson Way. So maybe it will work.

          • MB30SD

            I’m optimistic

        • Irish Sweetness

          And from the Adams cohort, when/if a QB is picked.

          I’d be happy with either Adams or Watson. Watson is more to look forward to.

          But a trade-down is very possible – does he have the balls to pass on weak offers and draft the guy himself?

      • Tortured Bear fan

        sounds crazy but he is earning momentum, and bears sometimes picks the last “fashionable pick”. hope be wrong.

    • This would be the absolute worst pick IMO (besides Kizer at #3).

      I just don’t see Pace digging Mahomes. .

      Look at the QBs Pace has brought in. Hoyer. Barkley. Fales. Sanchize. Which one of them are strong armed wildcards? None.

      The only strong armed yahoo Pace inherited he tried to replace from day one.

      Pace’s QB mold is shaped by what he saw in Brees.

      A brainy technician with intangibles and good enough arm [Glennon/JimmyG?]

      That’s not Mahomes. That’s more Trub, Peterman, Kaaya, Bethard.

      • Tortured Bear fan

        I agree with all you posted, but if the first two picks are QB? … I fear Pace push the Panic button.

      • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

        Also add this guy to the list…

        Aaron Wilson‏Verified account

        Central Missouri QB Garrett Fugate drawing interest from Broncos, Chiefs, Packers, Browns, Raiders, Bears, Cardinals, Jets

        • BerwynBomber

          Yeah, but Fugate is a mid-round guy or later …

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          i think we should Fugate about him. he sucks.

      • leftcoast dave

        Bring Beathard (QB) in at 5, Jaleel Johnson (DL-3) at low 4, George Kittle (TE) at high 4 and King (CB/FS) at 3 for a Hawkeye draft.

    • leftcoast dave

      Me too. But only if they are able to trade down once, more likely twice. But the odds of that are Looooooooonnnnnnggggg. I made my entry to the draft pick contest on that premise.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Not at #3.

      • Tortured Bear fan

        I hope so

  • King of DBB

    Here is the most dangerous trend in Western society:

    The Mises Group as well as Zero Hedge and other sites are direct instruments of the Russian agitprop machine. Their goal is to push back with an opposite and equal reaction against any concentrated push to value reason and objective truth as defined by science. The goal of the east to destabilize and control is to ruthlessly attack science and the scientific method, to make the west doubt what it knows and what it can know. To place political truth over scientific truth.

    So, in response to Tyson’s lecture that a dangerous cloud is emerging over science and objective truth, they coin their own opposite and dangerous term: scientism.

    By warping language in this way they seek to reduce their enemy to something that can be codified and dismissed. Scientism is just a stone’s throw from Scientology as a word, so it seeks to equate the two as quackery. These idiots love the word statism, especially as it was coined by their intellectual hero Ayn Rand. To them, all of Tyson’s points can be dismissed as a smoke screen to advocate for more government funding and authority.

    Tyson’s thesis, that people who know nothing about science still stand in opposition to it, that violates the underlying mission of these AstroTurf Russian agitprop morons. And so they coin a sick term.

    Here is Tyson’s original video:

    • SC Dave

      Maybe I’ll go have a look. Crichton was all over the subjugation of science to politics. See Aliens Caused Global Warming

    • This is what Will and I touched on a thread or two back when debating climate change.

      I argued that to a certain extent we all must trust experts in other fields like say oceanographers, biologists, atmospheric researchers, etc because unless you have a PhD in those fields, you’re simply not going to understand the data (not like them).

      In Epistemology this type of “knowledge” is referred to as “reliabilism”, and we all do it when we trust our cars to mechanics, our bodies to doctors, our taxes to accountants, our cases to lawyers.

      Now, it must be said that this isn’t actually TRUE knowledge (if such a thing even exists), but it is a practical way of making sane decisions.

      Does anyone believe that Truman understood the theory or relativity or the intricacies of the Abomb before he dropped it? Nope. But he trusted his scientific advisors and their consensus.

      (You must remember that SOME scientists predicted that an atomic bomb could theoretically blow the atmosphere off the planet and kill us all, but they weren’t in the majority).

      Will countered with a valid point that PERHAPS climate science isn’t as grounded (yet) as say physics or chemistry, but much of their method is based on hard science not metaphysical speculation and the consensus is overwhelming and independent across various fields.

      So at some point, a person must look at the mirror and ask: do I KNOW more than all those Nobel Prize winners and eggheads with double PhDs from Harvard, MIT, Princeton, King’s College, etc? Is my judgement superior?

      Am I willing to stake the survival of the human race because I think I know better than them?

      • King of DBB

        It’s more dangerous than that.

        Tyson is not the only one marking the warning bells of this narcissistic and misguided intellectual egalitarianism, this guy does it too:


        And Nichols is a Harvard guy who teaches at the Naval War College. He’s effectively a real life Jack Ryan and hardly a cuck libtard. And he sees it too.

        My point was to say that Nichols blames Dem Interwebz. But it’s part of a propaganda campaign sponsored by those who benefit from the demise of an expertise driven culture. Namely, the Russians. Fuckers ruin everything.

        • Dodgy fucking Russians!

          Russia know 2 things.

          1. The nation with the greatest scientists will likely rule the future
          2. Russia (under Putin) will not create greater scientists than the west or even east


          they’re reverting to sabotaging science in order to lower the rest to their level.

          And it will garner independent natural allies due to political and religious biases.

          • Irish Sweetness

            You under-estimate Russia greatly.

            1. America uses/relies-on Russian rockets to get into space now.

            2. They beat the USA at EVERYTHING in the space race BAR landing a man on the moon (which the USA needed their Nazi scientists to do at all). First satellite. First man/woman in space. First manned orbit. First space walk. First to land an object on the moon. All Soviet achievements with Soviet scientists.

            American kids are scraping the barrel in PISA scores now.

            The moon money that educated kids to put you there is gone.

      • Johnnywad

        I can’t believe you fuck 18 year olds and think like this with the same brain. You are a mystery Butch.

        • Age is a number my man. I’ve talked to 18yr old students from Cal Tech, and I feel like Forest Gump afterwards. I’ve known 20yr olds who returned from Afghanistan and talk like 5 star generals.

          Meanwhile, my 105 yr old Graunt still believes that growing a beard means you’re lazy and that fatties should refrain from shopping in public.


          Also, I find that most (bonable) women don’t talk about this stuff regardless of age.

          I think I’ve come across maybe 3-4 in my entire dating experience who truly enjoyed convos about philosophy, politics,history lit, science, economics, etc. so TBH, I’m not really looking for that until I wanna get married or something.

          That’s when Da Blog with the tall whites, russian spies, and scientism taps in!

  • evantonio

    Completely unrelated and totally SFW (seriously). I present, 70s BJ faces: http://dangerousminds.net/comments/70s_blowjob_faces

    • King of DBB

      You bastard, you made me change my avatar again!

      • I would’ve gone with Jeff Goldblum

        Modern art. Disturbing. Riveting. Horrifying. Compelling.

      • evantonio

        wow. i feel that’s a pretty awesome trophy.

  • Sahr Gborie

    Crazy question:
    If by some stroke of luck M.Garrett falls to us at 3, do we trade the pick for a tremendous draft haul that could garner multiple future selections or a treasure trove in a deep 2017 class? Or do we take the franchise pass rusher in appreciation of the football gods smiling upon our team, and worry about all problems later?

    • You take him and run.

      He fits a need and is the best player in the entire draft, and maybe 2-3 drafts.

      We can get JAGs or B-type players later or in future FA.

      • MB30SD

        kinda have to agree

    • BuddhaJoe

      If somebody’s offering a haul like the Rams gave to move up and get Goff I’d say trade. But that ain’t happening so take Garrett.

    • Johnnywad

      You take him. And I’m convinced that while it’s a long shot, it could happen. Never discount to two fucktards drafting ahead of the Bears. Never.

  • Sahr Gborie

    For all this clamoring for a QB at 3 please consider: our OC is very short sighted he could not recognize J.Howards talent. How can we expect him to see let alone bring out and maximize the talent of a poor QB class?

    • Bender McLugh

      Completely disagree.

      • Johnnywad

        Yeah. If only he had found some way, just some way to get Howard into the system and get him some touches. Perhaps he would have had a decent season.


        • leftcoast dave

          Damn straight, and why wasn’t he using him more out of the backfield and putting him in the slot, and then also kickoffs and punts, what about that??? Damn, why didn’t he get direct snaps out of the shotgun?????

    • AlbertInTucson

      Not clamoring for any of these QBs at #3 here in “The Old Pueblo”.

    • leftcoast dave

      What? He, . . . drafted him, but did not recognize his talents?

      Are you suggesting he should have just started him from game one, dissing off everyone else, and perhaps putting him in before he got the feel for the game to ruin his career ab initio?

      Duh? He, (they) did what last year and you want to criticize any part of that, like, “yea, but, he shoulda’ been playin’ him sooner”????

      Come on, already, armchair quarterbacking is one thing, trying to micromanage is yet another.

    • Irish Sweetness

      1. He won’t be starting.

      2. What OC? Hopefully he’s airlocked with the trash. We can’t fail to draft Watson because of the OC.

      That’s priorities out of whack. The OC can’t use Watson? Fire him.

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Bears scuttlebutt from Matt Miller. They are looking for running backs. Sounds like Pace and Fox want heavy running game and ask Glennon to throw about 25 times per game.

    Chicago Bears: Don’t bet on a quarterback in Round 1, per a high-level source with the team. Defensive back is much more likely, with Jamal Adams and Marshon Lattimore earning high grades on the team’s board. A quarterback is more likely on Day 2 of the draft. Oddly enough, my source said they’ve done a ton of work on running backs and wouldn’t rule one out in Round 2 or 3.


    • MB30SD

      Oh thank goooood.

      (unless it’s a smoke screen… fuckers)

      What would you guys think of:
      1. Adams
      2. Obi or best available DL
      3. Mixon
      4. Best available CB
      4. Butt if he still has two actual knees

      • AlbertInTucson

        I would endorse that, no Butts about it although I don’t think Butt lasts that long. Mixon, either.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I’d love Obi. A 6’4 safety would be sweet..

        He won’t be there in 2 most likely, and if he is, we need to draft Bolles there or whoever (he was also at Halas hall). Linebacker and OL. Have to be drafted, and not in the lower rounds.

    • Bender McLugh

      Blount should be available soon

      • MB30SD

        Beast mode

        • Bender McLugh

          did Skittles sign anywhere?

          • MB30SD

            lost wages

      • AlbertInTucson

        I thought I heard the Giants were kicking Blount’s tires…?

        • Bender McLugh

          heard the same

    • Irish Sweetness

      They had Kamara in for a visit. 5’10, 214.

      Also had both Mahomes and Trubisky in. Which means they’re drafting Watson.

  • BuddhaJoe

    Granted I haven’t seen a lot of him, but Trubisky moving up the boards seems more like hype and people trying to outsmart each other more than anything else. The kid might be good, but I’ve seen better out of plenty of QBs that ended up being busts. If the Bears drafted any QB other than Watson at #3 I’d be pissed. At least he’s proven he can perform under major pressure.

    • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

      No need to worry. Bears will not be drafting QB at #3. You can take it to the bank.

      • Irish Sweetness

        You most certainly cannot.

  • King of DBB

    I was unaware this existed until today.

    Cock Knocker? Ok… this is gonna affect my viewing enjoyment of Skywalker coming back at Christmas.

  • MB30SD

    “DaBearsBlog‏ @dabearsblog 32m32 minutes ago
    My current guess is Garrett, Fournette go 1-2.”

    Um, yes please! Hello Mr. Adams or Thomas (I’d be ok with either, but want adams)

  • MB30SD


    because after the last 8 years of ‘leadership’ at that position, they’ll take just about fucking anything?

    Yonny… feel me my main maingeses? ; )

  • MB30SD

    where in thee fuck are you guys when I need you most?!?!?

  • leftcoast dave

    Sipping Jameson Caskmates poured over one cube.

    Try it, you’ll like it.

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Daniel Jeremiah‏Verified account @MoveTheSticks 2h2 hours ago
    Talking to some teams, hottest names right now: Haason Reddick & Christian McCaffrey. Wouldn’t be shocked if McCaffrey didn’t make it to #8. Latest I’m hearing…might see a run on QBs, but it’ll be late 1st not top 15. Chance only 1 QB in top 15. Then 3-4 go late 1st. Here’s the thing with McCaffrey–even teams with established RB’s love him. They can use him so many ways. “He produces points” is the line

    • Reddick is comped to Shazier.

      A speed demon off the edge.

      Only thing is – we got one of those in Floyd.

      Reddick will prolly get picked up by a 4-3 team as Will or something.

      The McCaffrey buzz I’m not totally buying. I think teams want to drum him up so a defender they’re targeting drops.

      • MB30SD

        Yup. Fucking 5’10” White running.

        But heeeeesssss diiiiffereeeeent. (Rolls eyes)

        Danny. Woodhead. 2.0.

        Meh… Sure 15th+ go for it. He’s still a fucking runningback. Get one in the 4th

  • Deum. I don’t know if I agree with Joseph out of this yrs top 10. I would say him, Adams and Hooker would be neck and neck, but if Pacebot concludes the same…

    “In the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel’s poll of 16 NFL scouts, 11 voted LSU’s Jamal Adams this year’s top draft-eligible safety.

    Ohio State’s Malik Hooker garnered four first-place votes, and Michigan’s Jabril Peppers received the final one. In the Journal-Sentinel’s “points” system based on the scouts’ rankings, Adams, Hooker, and Peppers rounded out the top three followed by UConn’s Obi Melifonwu (4), Washington’s Budda Baker (5), Utah’s Marcus Williams (6), Florida’s Marcus Maye (7), and N.C. State’s Josh Jones (8). “The West Virginia kid (Raiders 2016 first-round pick Karl Joseph) wouldn’t be in the top 10 of this group,” one AFC executive said. “I’ve looked at it over and over. It’s as deep a safety draft as I’ve ever seen.” – Roto

    • MB30SD

      (mouth fucking watering)

  • Still hoping for either Adoree or Baker in the 2nd. Foster, Jones or Conley?

    In a poll of 17 NFL scouts, 14 voted Ohio State’s Marshon Lattimore this year’s top cornerback prospect.
    Alabama’s Marlon Humphrey, USC’s Adoree’ Jackson, and Washington’s Kevin King got the final three first-place votes. In the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel’s “points” system, Lattimore came in first among draft-eligible corners followed by 2) Humphrey, 3) Ohio State’s Gareon Conley, 4) Washington’s Sidney Jones, 5) Jackson, 6) LSU’s Tre’Davious White, 7) King, and 8) Florida’s Quincy Wilson. “This is probably the best group of corners I’ve done in years and years,”

  • More Bears-centric. Biggs also pondered if BBQ sauce can be used as a chaser.

    According to the Chicago Tribune’s Brad Biggs, the “rumor in league circles” is the Bears are “pondering” Stanford DE Solomon Thomas, LSU S Jamal Adams, and Ohio State CB Marshon Lattimore if they stay put at No. 3 overall.

    But Biggs’ gut feel is that he “can’t see how” the Bears fail to come out of Round 1 without a quarterback, especially if they are able to swing a deal to move down the board. Of course, that would require a trade partner, and there are a number of other teams in the top-10 trying to move down. Biggs thinks UNC QB Mitchell Trubisky may be squarely in Chicago’s crosshairs.

    • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

      Fat Biggsy is acting like homer fans who just want a qb,..any qb whether he is worth #3 or not. His own sources are telling him that Bears are not considering qb at #3 and yet he “can’t see how”. He is not ready to believe his sources in this instance because it does not match with what he wants.

      • King of DBB

        Biggsy has been snorting pixie sticks again.

      • leftcoast dave

        The reality this draft is that you throw the “value” chart away, given the depth of talent at most defensive positions. That said, I hope Pace takes whatever he can get from either the Jets or the Browns (most likely scenario?) even if it is just a low two or top three to trade out. If your three isn’t markedly better than your 12 plus another quality pick, take the twofer.

      • MB30SD


      • Irish Sweetness

        Someone who wants a QB is a Homer?

        You have no idea if Trubisky or Watson is worth a #3. You find out in two years.

    • AlbertInTucson

      “Biggs’gut feel…”

      Tee Hee.

      • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

        He has been listening to his gut too much…

        • He thinks it’s rumbling “QB” but really it’s rumbling “feed me”

          • MB30SD

            Not QB… iB…. Italian beef… 3 italian beefs… For his first course

        • AlbertInTucson

          That gut speaks VOLUMES.

  • Irish Sweetness

    I think you could have your Obi at 36 Jefe. Hope we get him too.

    People might freak, but a Watson/Obi draft at least gives us things to look forward to. Watch Glennon motor along, Sanchez in Watson’s ear on the sideline …

    I could take that for a couple of seasons.

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