Merry Christmas: Bears Win AFC North

| December 25th, 2017

All thoughts from inside the building. If you could see same thing on TV, well fine then. Some of this was shared on Twitter yesterday.

  • Mitch does something very weird. When the window is tight he sets his feet and throws darts. When he has time and an open man, he loses concentration a bit. Passes sail. Very fixable.
  • Biggest thing I saw: my god this team loves their quarterback. Every guy on the roster is clearly rooting for him. When he makes a good play, 20 guys wanna celebrate with him.
  • Two things on Akiem Hicks. First, I’ve never seen a larger ass. It’s got to be 3 feet wide. Second, he’s spent. There’s no way he should suit up next week against Minnesota.
  • Eddie Goldman is way faster in the building than he is on television. And hustles on every single play.
  • Kyle Fuller is playing with so much confidence right now. Kizer continually throwing at him was nonsensical. 
  • Before the start of the second half, the two things receiving the loudest in-building reaction were: (a) the announcement that halftime’s frisbee golf competition was canceled and (b) the playing of Bon Jovi’s Livin’ on a Prayer
  • Mitch got bailed out on his horrible screen pass/pick 6 but came back and executed the screen game to perfection after that play. Once again, he doesn’t run from his mistakes. He embraces them and improves.

  • Jon Bullard can play. I don’t know if he’ll ever be a consistent three-down performer but there’s something there. He flies around.
  • So does Nick Kwiatkoski. Bears should enter 2018 with Trevathan and Kwik as their inside linebackers and feel quite good about it.
  • The NFL can preach player safety all they want but I watched Bobby Massie, after his injury, limping thirty yards down the field to get into a huddle. He could barely walk. He had no business being on the field. He was injured. What is he doing out there?
  • Biggest football-related groan at the game? The overturned touchdown in Bills/Pats. One of the most ridiculous calls in the NFL this season. And that’s saying something. If the NFL does nothing else this off-season, it has to fix the catch rules. And fire Al Riveron as head of officiating. 
  • Bears must have the slowest collection of wide receivers in the league. The only player who tested the Browns secondary over the top was Tarik Cohen. (But honestly, Trubisky rarely had enough time to consider throwing the ball more than 12-15 yards.)
  • I’ve always used that phrase “jumps off the screen” when talking about college players who look like they’re a step better than everyone else on the field. Cohen jumps off the field. Wait until a coaching staff figures out how to use him correctly.
  • Soldier Field must have made a conscious decision to under-staff the building for the finale because there was a half-empty building and still extremely long concession lines. No register had more than one person behind it. The beer taps “didn’t work”. I don’t get it. Can’t you reward the people for showing up? It was two awful teams and Christmas Eve!

It was a dominant second half and the kind of game these players needed, especially the young ones who’ll make up the core of this team moving forward. 


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  • Irish Sweetness

    The stadium was half empty?

    Two players that we need to step up are Cohen and Kwiat. Or moreso WE need to step up and find more snaps for him – that catch he made in the middle where he got pinballed around was amazing. He just got up and pumped both guns. Baller.

    I haven’t fallen in love with the small white LB yet, but if he works out his passing game then that would be quite a find until we draft a stud. He’ll end up on the Pats, no doubt.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      Merry Christmas Irish.

      On the Kwiatkoski being small front…….he’s 6’-2” and weighs 245 pounds. Or by comparison, slightly bigger than teammates:

      Danny Trevathan
      Jerrell Freeman


      Bobby Wagner
      Navarro Bowman
      Luke Keuchly
      Lots more but too lazy

      He’s not small at all. He has good size. Perhaps half a step slow, but not small.

      • Irish Sweetness

        6’2? I had him as a midget. Wow. Thought he was a six footer.

        Merry Christmas man.

        • CanadaBear

          Everybody seems small after #54 (6’4″, 260).

          • BearDown100393

            #54 was a beast.

      • antityco

        He’s neither small or slow. These stereotypes get old.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          It’s got nothing to do with a stereotype. Watch where you stick that word and who you use it with.

          He looks a half a step slower than most starting NFL linebackers to me. And if that’s not enough for you, he ran a 4.73 40 at the combine. So yeah, by NFL standards, he’s a slow for a Linebacker.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            the 5 year average 40 time for an inside linebacker at the combine is 4.80

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Which is filled with guys that never get drafted, signed as a UDFA or ever play a snap in the NFL.

            I’d be more interested in the average combine 40!time of starting NFL linebackers. Then compare his time to that.

            Hell, there are OL and DL that run that split.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Just did a quick look at a dozen or so starting ILB. most of them are in the mid to high 4.6 range which would back up your step slow conclusion. but there were still several in the mid 4.7 range who are very successful like Navarro Bowman.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            And to be clear, I’m fine with Kwit being in the field. I think he’s a nice player. And as I said above, he’s half a step slow. I’m not saying he doesn’t belong. In fact, this whole thing started by me defending the kid. He’s fine. I think of him as a bigger Hunter Hillenmeyer. Maybe not quite as saavy as Hunter. But then again, he’s not sharing the field with 54 and 55

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I agree. I think the HH comparison is spot on.

          • SC Dave

            And I have said for years tjat if we can get an HH equivalent in the 3rd round it would be a great pick.

            In other words, I’m pretty happy with the KwiatkOSki (no second W you idiot TV announcers) too.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            They add the second W because they now he is going to be a WINNER!!!
            Just like they always put an S on Jeffery because they knew he was a Son of a Bitch and would leave.

    • leftcoastdave

      Tarik the Freak has all the talent anyone could have expected when his name was called on draft day. But more than that, that dude has a gigantic heart that will never quit. That catch you mention was a first down. He had so many big plays called back it was ridiculous. I’m just glad to see he is being brought along at an even pace as he expands rolls beyond that of a small college running back. Pace has put together quite the fab four going into next year with Trub, Shaheen, Howard and Tarik “the freak” Cohen.

      • CanadaBear

        Looking forward to next year with a new staff. Hopefully fewer injuries and more continuity.

    • Kwiat is a JAG. Not twitchy. explosive or violent, and not a ballhawk.

      He’s like the Conte of ILBs.

  • CanadaBear

    Happy Holidays everyone! I’ll let Charles Brown and Bonnie Raitt take over from here.

  • CanadaBear

    Gotta love the Bears. Under staff the stadium due to no-shows. Gotta make sure you keep that game-day feeling of inconvenience!

    • BearDown100393

      That type of management with Soldier Field should surprise absolutely nobody.

      • CanadaBear

        It’s actually the Park District that runs it but it’s way more fun to grind on the Beloved!

        • BearDown100393

          I did not blame the Bears

          • CanadaBear

            I know. Don’t worry nobody will hold it against ya!

  • leftcoastdave

    Merry Christmas to all!

  • KentuckyBearsFan

    My Christmas wish is fewer 2018 holding penalties on Tarik Cohen runs.

    That, and world peace.

  • TomC

    I have spent several late-season meaningless Bears games just watching ILB play, Kwiatkowski in particular. In my opinion, he is just too slow to be a high-level starter. He might be able to get away with it if he had amazing instincts / football IQ / nose for the ball, but to my eyes he doesn’t. If Jerrell is really done, we need to find someone else to pair with #59.

    • CanadaBear

      That’s where I’m at with Kwiat. Good on him but always looking to upgrade. Freeman owes the league 10 games. If the Bears were keeping him they would have had him serve those this year. At least that’s the way I’m looking at it. This way they can release him and punish him (still has to sit out those games) at the same time.

    • willbest

      He is solid depth. He was a 4th around pick so, that was pretty good value on the pick.

      • SC Dave

        This right here.

      • Is he?

        Is he discernibly better than Christian Jones or Timu?

        for a 4rth, we could’ve drafted a K, OG or OLB who could’ve provided more value.

        • SC Dave

          I think so. And we could have picked an Evan Rodriquez

    • ILB is DEF a need.

      However, that depends on the next D scheme.

      If we switch back to a 4-3, we only need one ILB as opposed to two in a 3-4.

      Would still take a swing at a 4rth -5th ILB though – preferably, some SPARQ freak who can be coached up (like Wagner)

  • BearDown100393

    It is sacrilege to complain about Hicks’ rear end.

    • CanadaBear

      The biggest butt I ever saw at Soldier Field (on the field) was Dan Jiggetts. That thing was huge from 70 yards away.

      • BearDown100393

        Spice Adams has to rank.

        This might be an offseason top 10 type post.

        • BerwynBomber

          Ted Washington?

          • AlbertInTucson

            And Keith’s Traylor?

    • AlbertInTucson

      I didn’t see it as a complaint. Just an observation.

  • willbest

    “Before the start of the second half, the two things receiving the loudest in-building reaction were”

    Zach Miller, was the loudest non-football related cheering.

    “Soldier Field must have made a conscious decision to under-staff the building for the finale”

    Outside of half time there was no line for concessions or bathroom where I was sitting. The pro-shop was jam packed though because people were using it as a reason to warm up, and I suspect nobody in there really minded the line all that much.

    Incidentally, I am kicking myself for not sneaking shit into Soldier field because unlike previous trips in there was no pat down. In retrospect a pat down would probably have been completely pointless as everybody had 3+ layers on.

  • Patrick Hutchins

    I still think Fox and staff should stay .The young players are developing and playing well. That means good coaching. They’ve got cohesiveness going forward and just need a few more players. It takes time to build depth on an NFL roster. And Fox didn’t bring in Glennon, Pace did. You can only coach the players that you have. Continuity is very important in football.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      FLAG!!! Unsportsmanlike Conduct! Defending an indefensible Coach. One more and you will be ejected from Da Blog.

    • Viva Dave Toub

      I think one of Fox’s strengths is his ability to hire a strong staff. But come game day, I think (based on what I’ve seen over the last three years) when he game plans he is not nearly aggressive enough, is way too predictable, and hand-cuffs his coordinators.

      I agree with your sentiment regarding continuity. It is a key ingredient to success at that level. Pace has a big decision in front of him.

      Firefox. Dave Toub for HC.

      • Bear Instincts

        So you would keep Firefox as the D-Coordinator?

        • Viva Dave Toub

          Only if the new HC wants him

    • There were Ram’s fans that wanted to keep Fisher too for the sake of “continuity”

      They too were also unforgivably wrong.

      When the product is shit why would any fan want THAT to be continuous?

    • BearDown100393


      • AlbertInTucson

        He must have missed the end of the San Fran game.

    • Carlos Pendleton

      Fox is a turd as a coach, he can’t coach pee wee league!!!!

  • Dis Guy Trublinsky

    Kyle Fuller……..playing at a very high level this year. He was off to a brief but hot start as a rook. Then the injury. Then the odd rehab/non season of 2016. So what to do?

    I’d like to see him remain a Bear after what I’ve seen this year. But who is he as a player? I’m not sure what the expect over the long haul. Is he Kyle Fuller 2016, that’s just trying to get paid this year. Or is he Kyle Fuller 2017?

    If I’m Ryan Pace, I’d keep that franchise tag in my back pocket as I tried negotiating with Fuller and his agent. He’s likely going to land himself a pretty nice deal whether it be with the Bears or elsewhere. I’d consider tagging him if the early talks aren’t going well.

    • BerwynBomber

      Fuller seems like the type who might seethe over a franchise tag, especially after the year he’s had.

      Not saying that should ultimately determine whether to do it, but it should be considered. $15M for a disgruntled player might not be optimal.

      • SC Dave

        It’s funny how opinions get made. Not that I am free from it, but we don’t know Kyle Fuller at all.

        He might want to be a Bear way more than seems to be common opinion. Or less.

        • BerwynBomber

          I can’t imagine when an employer publicly calls out your toughness that would sit well with the employee.

          Could be wrong but my best guess …

          • SC Dave

            Agreed on all counts. Maybe it is *exactly* what he needed to not waste an opportunity that *so* many people could only dream of. Maybe he’ll understand that is where his motivation came from. *If* it is true.

            And as you said, we may never know. The only way will be if and when Kyle Fuller chooses to talk about it. But he, or his agent, is smart enough to know that this is *not* the time.

          • That supervisor is going to be gone in a week. All new bosses.

      • Bear Instincts

        Same thing could have been said about Alshon. I’m a big Pace supporter but he has failed miserably at the WR position. In hindsight he should have paid Alshon. I hope he learns from that mistake and tags Fuller or pays him. Fuller is of more value to us than to any other team. Bad drafting in the 1st round and not being able to keep the good or decent 1st round picks we have is part of the reason we are not competitive

    • This is Alshon all over again.

      Is he lazy? Is he disgruntled? Is he always inj? Will he be a consistent gamer, or will he become complacent and disappear for weeks once he’s paid…

      The way I see it, we GOT to pay Fuller.

      We’re only slightly better than the Browns.

      As such, gotta OVERPAY FAs to be in Chi.

      Pace might not like it, but that’s what happens when you stick with Fox for a season too long.

      He’s not gotta pay the piper for marginal talent because the alternative is more bargain bin rentals like Cooper.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky

        Kind of. Fuller’s injury was more significant than Alshon’s nagging soft tissue stuff. And I think Fuller’s ceiling is higher than Alshon’s.

        And no PEDs.

        • SC Dave

          No PEDs… *yet*

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            I was thinking I should circle back and edit that in myself. You beat me to it.

        • willbest

          He showed flashes as a rookie, regressed in his sophomore year. Had a knee scope sideline him for his entire junior year, and comes out to play when there is new money to be had.

          I was in the let him walk camp around the bye. But he has stepped it up since then. Back then he was playing in the 7-9 mil range, but I didn’t trust his motivation. Now he is playing in the 10-12 mil range. You almost have to take a chance at this point. And as I mentioned yesterday its no longer out of the question to tag him

      • Bear Instincts

        This right here

    • BearDown100393

      Name a free agent right now equivalent or better than Fuller for the right dollars.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky

        You are asking for a level of Googling I am unwilling to provide.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        that really depends on what you consider the “right” dollars.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky

        My hope is he’s turned himself into AJ Bouye. Bouye started slow, and became a Pro Bowler over basically a surprise season. But who knows?

        Jags took a risk on Bouye at 5 years, $65M. It paid off. He kept playing at a high level.

        Is Fuller worth that?

        • BearDown100393

          “Is Fuller worth that”

          I have no idea.

          Perhaps the better question is:

          A. Can the Bears afford to lose him and have to plug another hole?

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Not the 2017 version.

          • Bear Instincts

            Could the Bears afford to lose Alshon and plug the hole he created?

        • SC Dave

          No way to know.

          “Do you feel lucky, punk?”

  • Stopping by really quick to wish all you bastards a happy festivus which is only slightly less painful than a Fox season.

    I have donated bitcoin to the Human Fund in all your names.


  • SC Dave

    Okay, so I finally watched the game.

    1) For fuck’s sake, when are the dimwitted tools that announce football game going to understand that there is only ONE FUCKING ‘W’ in Kwiatkoski? Stop spreading ‘kow’ shit everywhere, you dipshits.

    2) Please don’t make Jordan Howard suffer for the sake of Hroniss Grasu.

    3) I’ll repeat a theme of mine from many weeks ago. Bennie Cunningham screens are a really good idea.

    4) I hope Kyle Fuller is a Bear for a long time.

    5) Jeff is right. Akiem needs some time off!

    Edit: 6) Merry Christmas, gang!

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      LOL. On #1, that’s how you pronounce his name.

      “The heart and soul of the Mountaineers’ defense (not to mention their leading tackler the past three seasons), Kwiatkoski (quit-KOW-ski) brings toughness to the field and is an explosive tackler.”

      • SC Dave

        I’ll ask him as see what he says

  • wreckinball

    Can we switch divisions ?
    The last few times we’ve been matched with the AFC north we’ve done awesome. Clean sweep this year.
    Living in Pittsburgh it’s my only claim with nauseatingly arrogant Steeler fans.
    My only foil is Tom Brady.

    • Malice Halice

      I said the same thing 3 weeks ago. Bears can’t survive NFCN if we’re gonna continue to have a shitty coaching n ownership. AFCN bodes a well-rounded matchup

  • wreckinball

    Agree we need a lot of help at WR
    Mitch will be fine
    Best 1-2RB combo in the league

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      Shit. I’d make that 1,2,3 combo

    • NO has something to day about that

  • wreckinball

    Man is TJ Yates bad

  • BearDown100393
    • AlbertInTucson


    • Malice Halice

      We talkin about Green Bay tho, they ain’t losing Erin. People can conjure whatever fine print penalty but that braud ain’t leaving Wisconsin

      • Malice Halice

        I’m praying he leaves this division tho! I know it’s not happening but I really hope this penalty is upheld to the TEE

    • wreckinball

      Nothing will happen

      • AlbertInTucson


      • BearDown100393

        Green Bay must burn.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        should be fined and loss of a draft pick.

        • BearDown100393

          The owners should lose the team immediately, Put it up for sale. All 3 million Cheeseheads with fake stock certificates crushed. Bought by Jeff Loria. And relocated to be eventually liquidated and re-sold to Jeter Investments.


    • BerwynBomber

      The league already approved the paperwork, didn’t they?

      An embarrassing look for the Cheese, regardless. Especially when you consider they should have never taken him off IR and run the brain-dead risk of re-injuring him in the first place.

      This is more evidence, as if we needed any, that Thompson and McCarthy ain’t all that.

      • CanadaBear

        I like the comments where all the Pats fans chime in because their favorite org has been mistreated. Cry me a river!

      • BearDown100393

        If it were the Bears would the league approve?

        We know that answer.

  • wreckinball

    Who’s the QB now?

  • wreckinball

    Boy what a lay down by the Texans

  • wreckinball

    And not acting like you’ve ever been in the end zone before

  • BuddhaJoe

    Merry Christmas all. My wife got me a small drone, and let’s just say it’s a good thing I’m not a pilot. Although maybe that’s because my dad got me some good bourbon too.

  • BearDown100393

    “He was MVP of a Pro Bowl”

    – Gruden hyping Foles

    Nobody gets more excited over nobodies than Jon Gruden.

    • CanadaBear

      Could there be a more hollow accolade?

  • BearDown100393

    Oakland the most disappointing team this season?

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Nope not even close.

    • BerwynBomber

      Other nominees include …

      The Cheese? Their one-man band/all-world guy suffered a season-ender in W6 and that was that.

      G-Men? A horrendous season. MacAdoo apparently channeled 2014 Marc Trestman.

      The Broncos? No QB but thought they’d still go 8-8 with that D. What a disaster.

      The Fish? Who knew the gap between Tannenhill and Cutler was so wide?

      The ‘boys? Zeke is a significantly better RB than Dak is a QB.

      Honorable mention to TB and maybe even our CHI Bears.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky

        Should the Bears somehow pull off a miraculous win next week. I’d say they’re probably right about where many to most guessed they’d be at 6-10. Not me. I had 8-8 or 9-7.

        • BerwynBomber

          If they would have won the Brett Hundley game and hung around in WC contention for a couple/few more weeks that would have been a big step forward.

          Alas …

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            That would have been a great time.

            That game reminded me why I don’t be there on NFL games. Never thought they’d lose that.

          • Big Mike

            Losing to the Packers sealed it for me. It’s great to be playing better. Out coached dramatically. Packers had a great game plan, ours was shit. Players came out flat. Wasted the bye week, on and on. Beating Cincy and Cleveland has felt good. That’s all. More important Biscuit keeps gettting better.

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        The Browns. They were due. For something. One win?

        Okay maybe not one win, but something. And not seeing or knowing what that something is or was or could be…was disappointing. Again. To anyone who cared.

        Not really me. But to whoever that is, my condolences.

        • BerwynBomber

          Valid point …

          CIN would be another one I missed.

  • BearDown100393

    Eagles would love adding Fuller to that secondary.

    • BerwynBomber

      PHI has no cap space.

      Team I’m most wary about regarding Fuller is SF. They might go all in the off-season given the way G has started.

  • BearDown100393

    Philadelphia is dead without Wentz.

    • willbest

      Depends on who they play. At home, I think they could beat the Seahawks, Falcons. I don’t see them beating Drew Brees or Cam Newton.

      • AlbertInTucson

        If I was an Iggles fan, I would very concerned about ANY playoff-level team.

        • willbest

          Well they effectively have 3 weeks to prepare since they just clinched the #1 seed.

      • BerwynBomber

        I’m not sure about PHI beating SEA. I could see the ‘hawks D and Wilson being enough.

  • Irish Sweetness

    John Pagano. Get him. Yeah.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Sarcasm, we hope?

      • Irish Sweetness

        Adjustment. I haven’t seen the Raiders this year, but he gets it.

        That’s the best offense in the league – Foles had 4 TDs last week lest anyone point at him – and they just got shut down through scheming.

        • AlbertInTucson

          My bad. I confused him with CHUCK Pagano.

        • CanadaBear

          Nothing against Pagano but Foles was hideous last night. Some of that was due to Oakland/Pagano but most of it was due to Foles stinking out the joint.

  • BerwynBomber

    OAK should have won this game two or three times.

    This game should give everyone pause who thinks Foles can win two playoff games and a SB.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Nice to see Alshon step up like he did. ( Sarcasm).

      • CanadaBear

        I’m guessing Foles doesn’t have the confidence to throw contested passes his way. NTM Alshon was covered like a blanket all night.

    • Big Mike

      Shows EXACTLY what the caliber of QB play means. Nobody wins with a back up. Not even the great Bears defenses of the mid 80s could do in.

    • SC Dave

      If I saw the score right, the Eagles, at 12-2 in the playoffs and needing one win in two games to guarantee a bye versus an 8-6 team fighting to get in the playoffs, still won.

  • AlbertInTucson

    So, what was the spread on Raiders-Eagles?

    • AlbertInTucson

      Looks like it was Eagles either -9 or -10.

  • AlbertInTucson

    My FF update…
    First place team clinched tonight.

    A loss by him would have given me 1 last shot next week to catch him and win by tiebreaker (points scored).

    Instead, I will face him for a 5th time to either finish 2nd or 3rd.

    3rd is break even money.

    He won because I am 0-4 in our 4 previous matchups, 2 scheduled and 2 “position rounds”.

    More than a little frustrating but such are the vagaries of FF.

  • That Guy

    Fuller has to be brought back. And here’s the best part: if he doesn’t agree to a realistic long term contract and you have to franchise tag him, he has to have another great year. No team would touch him if 2017 is his only good year. He can’t hold out, because who would sign a guy in 2019 who had one good year and then refused to play.

    No, the Bears are in good shape with Fuller. Definitely need a better option opposite him, unless Amukamura stays. And even then, there has to be a better 3rd CB than Cooper.

    Safety seems set as long as guys stay healthy. D line needs another productive body and/or significant progress by the young guys like Bullard. Maybe Coward makes a leap?

    So the problem area on defense is LB. Kwiat is not a starter. Freeman is going to hit the road. Jones is ok backing up. OLB needs bodies to replace McPhee, Young, etc., and Acho, et al, is not the answer. In FA and the draft, I’d like to see at least 2 high quality guys added. Probably round 1 for OLB.

    Outside of LB, I’d spend the entire draft on WR and OL.

    That, coupled with a new coach and Trubisky’s continued improvement, would spell “playoffs 2018” to me.

    • CanadaBear

      For me I would look at OLB, OL, DL, WR, in that order. Hopefully Pace will sign some decent FA’s this year instead of a bunch of stiffs. Depending on who he signs, could change the order for me. Esp DL,WR.

    • A7Xthebest

      I just…do not understand the hate for Nick K. He is constantly on screen making tackles and has even had sone great pass rushes this year and that’s without him getting all the starting reps in training camp.
      Plus he’s bigger than Danny Tre.

  • Big Mike

    Merry Christmas to my fellow Christians and Happy Holidays to everyone. Winning is so much better. Glad Jefe saw a win, saw biscuit do some franchisey QB things. The game against MN has turned into a tune up for them. Wish they had something on the line. But it will be fun to watch the beloved one more time. Great insight from Jeff on Biscuit’s feet when he’s not pressured.

    • BearDown100393

      Merry Christmas

      • Big Mike

        Thank you. Excited for 2018.

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    • CanadaBear

      Back atcha Big Mike! Looking forward to next year and the new coaching staff. The Beloved aren’t that far away from being a decent team. Lots of work to be done but it’s not insurmountable.

      • Big Mike

        A great year in store. Bears and otherwise. That’s how I look at it.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky

        CBear you are my bellwether. If you say they’re not that far away from being decent, that means something.

        Since I’m ever the optimist, I’ll assume that’s their floor for 2018.

        • CanadaBear

          Uh-oh! I go from wildly optimistic to wildly pessimistic way too quickly. Although once I’m down on someone (Foxy) it takes something just short of a miracle for me to turn it around. If Pace hires the right coach/staff, has better injury luck and has a decent FA/draft, the Bears could be in the WC convo. Don’t think they are going to catch up to the Queens next year.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            16-0 next year.

    • willbest

      We will be playing backups, so decent chance we win this

      • Big Mike

        Winning is fun. But it is not about The outcome it’s about the experience, right? It’s great for biscuit. Would have liked to see the Vikings need this game and see his progress. But either way.
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    • Irish Sweetness

      God is great, Mike …. just not to the Bears. Amen!

      • Big Mike

        This is our struggle Irish. Our test. Thanks for the note. God is indeed great.

  • BearDown100393

    “How does Hasselbeck not get the importance of a starting QB?”

    Because he has the mentality of a backup.

    • CanadaBear

      NTM he’s a jagoff.

      • BearDown100393

        Yep. That also.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      He was a starting QB in the SB.

      • BearDown100393

        I know. So what? Still the mentality of a backup. Was then. Still is now.

      • CanadaBear

        I thought it was his brother Tim Jeff was talking about in his tweet.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          I did not even think of that. That makes more sense in the backup qb mentality argument BD was saying.

  • willbest

    Jeff, the bears have been looking for a head coach for the last year, they just will make it official next week

  • CanadaBear

    I know crappy teams rarely get the calls but this is surprising.

    8. Another sign of the Bears’ lack of aggressiveness on offense:
    The eight-yard pass interference call that Kendall Wright drew against
    Browns rookie Jabril Peppers on the Bears’ first possession was only the
    second DPI call the Bears have drawn all season. The only other one was
    against the Bengals’ Kevin Minter on tight end Adam Shaheen on a
    third-and-one play at the Bengals’ 2-yard line.

    The Bears’ two DPI calls drawn is tied
    with the Colts for the fewest in the league. And their nine yards gained
    on DPI calls is the fewest. The league average is 136.6 yards gained on
    DPI calls.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      That sucks. And we’ve all been openly bitching about it. I’ve never been a conspiracy theorist. Not even close. But something doesn’t smell right here to be sure.

      Coincidentally, I’ve recently struck up some business with a long time MLB ump. He’s coming up on 25 years. According to him, NFL refs are regarded as hacks by the rest of the pros. They’re part time guys that do it for fun. I know they get paid. And I’m sure it’s a pretty tidy sum for the time spent. But the NFL really should consider doing something here. A pay boost and year round salary to attract the best talent seems like a good start.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis
        • BearDown100393

          The NFL should be embarrassed its officiating staff is not already full time.

          And it really the position should be year round. This is a complex sport.

          Improvement regarded:

          A. Physical fitness: These guys are starting to look like 70s era umpires.
          B. Rules knowledge: Too interpretive.
          C. Replay dependency: Officiate the game, not to the replay decision.
          D. Positioning: IMO official injuries rising due to improper positioning due to A and B.
          E. Development: Get rid of incompetency. Work in younger officials for development.
          F. Officials Bye Week: To work on fundamentals and assess quality

    • SC Dave

      We old-timers know the Bears have been jobbed for a long time.

      I blame The Super Bowl Shuffle. Those arrogant bastards.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Part of it is the quality of the Bear wideouts but it is still a pretty damning statistic.

  • CanadaBear
    • BearDown100393

      ” The Vikings opened as a 12 ½-point favorite over the Bears for Sunday’s season finale at U.S. Bank Stadium at Westgate SuperBook in Las Vegas.”


      • CanadaBear

        They are playing for home field advantage throughout the playoffs so I’m guessing they will thump the Beloved.

        • BearDown100393

          Check out the actual sentence.

          Apparently the Trib no longer has editors!

    • AlbertInTucson

      Actually, 15 this week.

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog Yes. Gase is the most overrated coach in football.”


    I’d actually vote for Mike McCarthy. Payton and Arians would be high on my list as well.

    • BearDown100393

      Another dumb tweet.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      I’d go Zimmer before Chico. Zimmer is on his 3rd QB since Bridgewater went down and they get progressively better. Moved on from AP, no problem. They’ve got a good thing building up there.

      And if memory serves, wasn’t Chico named COTY just 2 or 3 seasons ago?

      • BearDown100393

        Zimmer is physically falling apart. It would not surprise me if he quits.

    • SC Dave

      I would not go Rivera. Definitely not.

  • willbest

    Interesting, NFL fucked with their week 17 schedule. Between it being NYE and there not being a bona fide game of consequence they opted to do away with SNF. They also flexed every team with a shot at the playoffs into the 3:30 timeslot so that none of them can bench their starters due to what happens with the noon games.

    1pm games

    3:30pm games
    CAR @ ALT (flexed), CIN @ BAL (flexed), KC @ DEN, OAK @ LAC, SF @ LAR, BUF @
    MIA (flexed), ARZ @ SEA, NO @ TB (flexed), JAC @ TEN (flexed)

    • BerwynBomber

      CAR @ ATL seems like the best of the bunch due the fact that both teams are playing for something beyond pride and roster spots.

      In retrospect, doesn’t surprise me about the SNF decision. The four letter had a ratings nightmare a few years back when they put their two college “playoff” games on NYE. Too many twenty-somethings out and about to crush it with the Nielsen’s.

    • BearDown100393

      This must be the fault of all those kneeling players screwing up the standings and ruining SNF on NYE.

      Damn them to hell.

      • willbest

        I think BB’s thoughts are far more on point. People aren’t going to stay at home and watch a meaningless football game when there is a reason to go out and get drunk.

        • BearDown100393

          There are reasons to get drunk?

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Sure. Bills, kids, bosses, taxes, insurance, health,

          • Irish Sweetness

            No good ones, BD. No good ones.

            (doffs Big White Ten Gallon, strides out of saloon, spurs glistening in the evening sun)

          • Nick Davis

            Yes. DT’s suck! (and not defensive tackles if you know what I mean)!!

    • AlbertInTucson

      I think it was a very intelligent move to play all games of consequence at the same time and deep six SNF for week 17.

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog Replay is not the problem. The rules are. Fix the damn rules.”

    Disagree (strongly). You can tinker with the catch definition all you want but ultimately you will come somewhere near the maintain possession thru the ground/establish a football move thing they have today.

    The bigger problem is microanalysis and the loss of the idea of “indisputable” in regard to replay reversals.

    Most, if not all, of the controversial calls this season have come on reversals. They’re over-thinking this shit and analyzing specks on the head of pin.

    Al and (I believe) CB have offered decent solutions to the problem (basically restrict the amount of time the play can be reviewed). And I would only add that the on field call take precedence if the result of the play is debatable. That concept seems lost these days.

    • This whole “survive going to the ground” technicality is mumbo-jumbo.

      For me, it would be very simple.

      Catch the ball.
      Maintain full possession of ball (no fidgeting. A lil subjective, but not much) for 3 seconds.

      That’s it.

      Like you say, call on field takes precedence.

      Review shouldn’t take longer than 10 seconds.

      Catch. 3 seconds Move on.

      If the ball is hit loose after that, it’s a live ball (since it was a catch).

      The 3 second rule would also eradicate the subjective “football move”.

      Ball caught. Solidly in hands. 3 seconds.

      Move on.

      • Also, might have to review the fumbling whilst diving for the pylons and it goes out of bounds.

        Maybe put the ball on the 10 (instead of 20) if that’s the case.

        Cuz it sorta punishes effort and some great offensive acrobatics.

        How many highlights are of those dudes flipping into the endzone, or keeping balance and leaping like superman…

        They’re exciting plays which shouldn’t be deterred.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Don’t lose control of the football so that it is fumbled into and out of the endzone! They are exciting plays. However the defense is usually making a hit or a tackle on them when they are diving for the pylon. Do you not want to reward the defense for making a play?

          • Yeah, that’s the counter – taking into account the D.

            I was thinking more of the specific situation of diving or the pylon and losing control

            Like that Benny Dive (Fox stupidly challenged). Like to see the effort, but I guess it would be unfair for D.

      • SC Dave

        3 seconds does not work on the sidelines. Next idea?

        • The sideline should work too.

          2 feet in. 3 seconds.

          If ball is moving around within those 3 seconds, not a catch.

          As a matter of fact, sideline should be easier.

          Possession. 2 feet ( 1 knee, elbow, buttcheek). Catch.

          If the ball comes lose once he’s out of bands, why is that not a catch?

          Never got that.

          The game should be determined inside the sidelines.

          • SC Dave

            Second sentence – that’s better. 🙂

      • Irish Sweetness

        3 secs ain’t a review, brah. That’s a cursory glance.

    • BearDown100393

      Create a rules subcommittee involving past and present players regarding this issue and others. They are the ones on the field and should be included in the discussion.

    • SC Dave

      Loss of “indisputable” is all there is to say.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Fa rbe it from me to defend the Zebras but, as I have often stated before, Replay should not afford any look that involves slow motion or zoom ins.

      Glaring errors will be eminently apparent.

      That’s all that should be overturned.

      Yes, the concept of “What is a catch/ possession” must be clarified/ simplified but Replay has been completely bastardized.

      Oh, and screw the concept of Centralized Replay.

  • BearDown100393

    Harrison is a Patriot

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      hmmm. Darth Hoodie attempting to get game plans from Harrison. I would not be surprised if he gets cut later on.

      • willbest

        I don’t know why everyone doesn’t do this all the time

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky

        He will undoubtedly sack Raperberger twice in the playoffs.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I’ll have ‘returns an INT for a TD’ for a dollar.

  • Haha. Could you imagine after this shit season, being rewarded with the #13 draft pick!?

    Biggsy’s #4

    4. If the NFL draft were held based on the standings after Sunday, the Bears would hold the ninth pick in the first round. They are one of four teams with a 5-10 record right now and based on their strength of schedule come up fourth out of those teams in a tiebreaker. While it’s not official, I believe it is unlikely the numbers will shift for a tiebreaker after next weekend, not enough to move the Bears out of last in any tie. If the Bears lose at Minnesota, they are assured of having a top-10 pick. If they win, they could slip out of the top 10 and fall perhaps as far as No. 13. Here is a peek at what the five-win teams have on tap next Sunday:

    Bears (5-10) at Vikings (12-3)
    Jets (5-10) at Patriots (12-3)
    49ers (5-10) at Rams (11-4)
    Chiefs (9-6) at Broncos (5-10)

    San Francisco has been hot with Jimmy Garoppolo at quarterback — but not as hot as the Rams have been all season. The Chiefs are locked into the No. 4 spot in the AFC playoff picture so that game at Denver is meaningless to them for postseason purposes. There’s been chatter the Chiefs could take a look at rookie quarterback Patrick Mahomes in this game. If the Broncos pull out a victory, the Bears would move up a slot in the draft if they lose at Minnesota. Plenty to track this coming Sunday.

    • Also, in the same article, Biggsy speculated that as many as TEN teams will look for HCs.

      So not only is it supposed to a ‘meh’ HC class, but teams will have to compete to attain them.

      How desirable are the Bears again?

      • willbest

        Bears should have fired Fox to dissuade others. Bengals might be less inclined to move on if they knew for certain there were already 4 other teams in fulltime HC search mode

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          what were the Bengals going to do give Lewis an extension? His contract was up. It is the best time to move on, because they would not have to pay him for sitting on his ass.

          • willbest

            I tend to believe that paying a coach for a year he isn’t coaching is just industry standard at this point

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        can you define ‘meh’ HC class? Is it that no one is talking about a “hot” coordinator?

        • willbest

          Yes, none of the coordinators has distinguished themselves.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I am fine with that. A lot of coordinators have distinguished themselves and ended up being awful coaches.

          • willbest

            Well the general thought is that if you aren’t excelling at the C level, you probably aren’t cut out for the HC level. And I get that the most important skill for an HC to have is staffing coaching talent and managing egos which is almost impossible to evaluate before the fact, but the coming up with a game plan is a pretty big part of the job

        • BearDown100393

          Many top shelf coordinators are not cut out to becoming great head coaches. The roles and responsibilities are very different. Your point is valid.

          • Yes, but it’s all about risk management.

            Wouldn’t you prefer Harbs, Shaw or Chucky over day, Dennis Allen?

            Last time the Bears took a chance at HC, we got a synergy speech writer in Trestman.

          • BearDown100393

            How many coaches win a Super Bowl with 2 teams?

          • Harbs and Shaw won a SB as coaches?

            Don’t like Chucky cuz of that precedence, still would theoretically be other “safer” options.

            There’s always first time for everything too.

            I don’t think anyone will discount Toub on the argument that only like one special teams coach has ever won the SB.

          • BearDown100393

            Pointed obviously at Gruden.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Mike Ditka.

            (high fives Mike Ditka)

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I think he was referring to Head Coaches, which the answer is 0.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky

        LOL. Now there are “meh” head coach classes? Cmon Butch. I know you’re down on the Bears but this is silly.

        • Yes, there are.

          For instance, if Chucky, Harbs and Shaw said they want NFL HC jobs, then the HC crop becomes stronger, right?

          Last yr Kyle Shannahan and a few others were highly thought of.

          There’s really none of those types in this HC class.

          McDaniels and Patricia are probably the most ‘distinguished’

          Not saying it guarantees anything (The yr we hired Trestman for instance had Arians who was seen by many as a slam dunk) but teams might have to take bigger chances, esp if 10 teams are competing.

          For instance, Flip might go from QB coach to HC.

          That’s a pretty big jump (and I’m high on Flip).

          It’s like this past draft’s QB class seen as ‘meh’

          Be nice to have a 4 yr starter with accolades and Heisman.

          But Pace had to gamble on a 1 yr 13 game starter.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Pace’s gamble looks like it’s going to pay off.

            And the experts labeling a draft class before they even play is also stupid. Watson looked liked a world beater until the ACL went. Will he come back? Dunno. Trubisky looks like he’s going to reward Pace for the gamble. So screw the experts.

            HCs can come from anywhere. There is no group of NFL declarations from a Junior or Senior class. And the “hot” coordinator falls flat on his face more than not. The problem is, none of them has ever done it. So its more of a crap shoot than the draft of you ask me.

          • BearDown100393

            The jury is out on Mitch Trubisky. Of course Bears fans want Pace validated for trading up to draft #10. I do as well. His rookie campaign has shown promise. Hopefully it continues forward with the right staff in place. This is a crucial off season for Pace. He must get the right personnel to move this team out of the NFCN cellar. 4 years in a row – last in the division. 0 division wins this season. Unacceptable.

          • Irish Sweetness

            AFCN champs!!!

          • Watson’s ACL and overall likelihood of getting INJ due to his style and size were BAKED in to his grade though.

            It’s one thing for White to seemingly get INJ out of nowhere.

            But a lot of ‘experts’ and even casual fans realized that Watson carried tremendous INJ risk (MB used to call him RGIV).

            Trub was a 13 game starter.

            Mahomes was wild with no mechanics or NFL concepts.


            Somewhere along the line, experts, GMs, and fans have to make a determination on classes, whether those be QBs or HCs.

            Doesn’t mean one can’t homer into a Dak, Wilson, or Brady.

            But, it’s about risk management, which shouldn’t deter risk taking, just doing it wisely.

            Pace looks like he found a QB better than Cutler.

            Took a big risk doing it. I was not a Trub hater, nor a Pace hater for doing that move.

            But we’ve also seen the opposite happen a lot too – taking an ‘outside the box’ guy (Shea/Trestman).

            I’m not arguing Pace CAN’T find a great HC.

            It could be Pace finds diamonds in dung piles of the 17 QB class, and 18 coaching class, but I don’t think there’s any doubt that the next HC crop seems very slim.

            Personally, if I’m gonna go bold, I’d prolly do it with Flip as HC. Maybe Nagy or Patricia .

            But a lot of the other candidates come with YUGE questionmarks.

            More so than say dudes like Kyle Shannihan, Harbs, Shaw, etc…

    • willbest

      Rams math is somewhat interesting

      If they win, they lock themselves into playing the Falcons or Seahawks
      If they lose, they lock themselves into playing the Panthers or Saints

      However, being the #4 seed means you are most likely going to go to Philly where they don’t have a legitimate QB in the Division round where as the #3 you are guaranteed a date in Minny.

      But my guess is they go for the win because if they knock off the Vikings in Minny there is a real good chance they host the NFCC as the #3 seed.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I’d want someone else to face the Saints in the first round.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Our chance to pick high went with Cleveland. It was just impossible to lose to them.

  • BearDown100393

    “Bears have way better roster than people realize. 2018 will open eyes.”


    Bears have way better roster than people realize. 201_ {fill in blank} will open eyes.

    This is just bias.

    Win some damn games.

    • It was the same shit ppl said about the Bears THIS off-season.

      And not just Bear homers, even some national guys.

      But as Bullet Tooth Toni says in Snatch, never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

      • leftcoastdave

        I’ll be happy to be called stupid. This team beat how many teams in the playoffs? And with a very, very green qb without receivers? But the important point is DEPTH.

        Coming back are a top notch group in the D line where the second three (Bullard, Jenkins and RRH) have shown that they can step in. A rotation like that is YUGE, and they are getting good reps.

        Then there is the LB corp. Damn good and deep an again, the depth is getting real reps.

        The weakness in the DB has turned into strength, even with a rook anchoring the S position.

        The D is solid with no where to go but top five.

        Have you looked at the EDGE talent available? Yep, great and deep to three or four. Who do you think will be the first pick in the draft?

        O line is where there were the major problems, other than the fact that Mitchell has never had many snaps, let alone NFL snaps. Injuries caused inconsistency which caused that group to decline from last year’s performance. But going forward? Again, depth and an ever improving T tandem. You think that an OT will not be the number 2 pick da Bears select after a monster EDGE first?

        The quadra headed O threat are Jordan Howard, Tarik (The Freak) Cohen, Mitchell and Adam Shaheen. They will come out next year with many, many more options, not to mention the other two backs with a real fullback and Benny the Jet who showed what he can do on screens and is “the man” at pass protect.

        Seriously? Not a real team for the future?

        Ok, I’m stoopid. They are a bunch of losers and no different from what we had on the roster two years ago.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis
          • leftcoastdave

            Can I get a big AMEN!

        • Irish Sweetness

          We’re a stud DC, RB, OT and DE/OLB away from a Superbowl. No knocking JH, but he’s one-dimensional and we need depth/redundancy. Neither Benny nor Tarik can replace Jordan. I’ll take those receivers (except maybe Dontrelle, I hope it’s just the playbook stalling him), no point in drafting a WR now if we’re looking to make a run.

          There’s always KEVIN !!!

  • BearDown100393

    Whatever James Harrison has left in the tank, it will be expended against the Steelers if/when they play the Patriots in the playoffs.

  • FF tidbits.

    Whoever owns Gurley, 39% chance you’re in the finals.

    Last 4 weeks, he’s AVG 43 points in our league.

    That’s nuts.

    Ender has him in Da League, and if he had made the final bracket, he might have taken me down.

    Gurley set to have a top 20 FF finish of all time.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      interesting… I beat out the guy that Gurley in the first round of our playoffs.

    • Irish Sweetness

      He had like 44 last week and 49 this week. Nobody’s ever done that.

    • EnderWiggin

      0-5 man… 0-5.

      All less that 20 points.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Anyone hear anything on the Massie Injury?

  • yikes. Maybe Rosen can say he’ll play for the Yankees if the Browns draft him

    Speaking Tuesday, UCLA QB Josh Rosen said he would be willing to fall in the draft if it meant winding up with the right team.

    “I’d rather be a lower pick at the right team than a higher
    at the wrong team,” Rosen said. There has been speculation that Rosen
    would try to force himself away from the Browns at No. 1 overall, a la
    Eli Manning in 2004. These comments won’t exactly tamp that down. The
    reality is, if the Browns want Rosen, there’s little he can do to force
    his way elsewhere. That is, short of staying in school for another year.
    The junior has yet to announce his plans. – roto

    • AlbertInTucson

      He thinks a lot of himself.

      Maybe more that NFL scouts do.

      Concerns about his durability.

      • leftcoastdave

        Yep. He can yap, but will he risk another season rather than get while the getting is good? It will be how much better next year, if he is still standing without crutches?

        • AlbertInTucson

          I don’t think he’s going back to UCLA.

          He’s already bitched about the workload of playing football and attending school.

          But if a team likes him enough to draft him, they will, regardless of his rhetoric on where he’d like to land.

    • BerwynBomber

      I don’t blame him.

      NFL should institute an NBA Draft Lottery system. That way teams aren’t rewarded with guarantees for their ineptitude. Plus, more likely to deter the Elway/Eli situations, or in this case, everyone bailing on CLE.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Last team to miss the playoffs gets first pick.

        • BerwynBomber

          I’m okay with CLE having the best odds of the first pick. I get the whole idea of parity.

          But just don’t make it a guarantee. Spin that wheel (or air blast those Ping-Pong balls).

    • Irish Sweetness

      That doesn’t sound like a guy you’d want to draft anyway. You don’t say that out loud.

      Haven’t seen him throw a ball, but he won’t make it in the NFL with an attitude like that.

      Here comes Johnny Manziel II.

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        Well maybe it’s (slightly) better than saying “I’ll play for ANYONE that pays me! Draft me high! Because I’m the best! I’m Number One! I’m Number One! I’m Number One!”

        But the comparisons to Johnny Manziel might be right on.

        Because here’s something that shouldn’t be said out loud: Rosen has the pedigree of someone born with a silver dick in his mouth.

        1. Born in Manhattan Beach, CA. Median Home price almost $3 million.

        2. Father was an orthopedic surgeon AND nationally ranked ice skater.

        3. Mother is a journalist who was captain of the Princeton lacrosse team.

        4. UCLA (memories of Cade McNown)

        5. Economics major

        6. Already complaining about balancing school with football. (Which is valid, but christ being a starting NFL quarterback with media pressure is going to be a hell of a lot harder).

        Eli had a great work ethic and his dad was Archie who (as far as I know) was respected in the NFL. He taught his sons the game.

        This guy’s dad was an ice skater.

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