Audibles From the Long Snapper: The Long Snapper Is Down, I Repeat…

| August 28th, 2017

Last Thoughts on Glennon

Many have spent countless Twitter hours arguing I am wrong to be rooting against Mike Glennon. I am not rooting against Mike Glennon. I hope he wins every start of his Chicago Bears career. I simply believe Mitch Trubisky – even right this very second – gives the Bears the best chance to win football games.

And the Bears should be all-in on winning football games in 2017. They have a good defense, great running attack and solid specials. If they get production from their passing attack they are going to have an opportunity to play in the postseason.

With Glennon, offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains needs to be perfect. Because if the play breaks down, the play is dead. With Trubisky, the play breaking down is simply an opportunity for a great talent to showcase his ability.

I’m just hoping the Glennon-led Bears don’t put the 2017 team in too big of a hole.

Adam Jahns does a far better just illustrating this point in the Sun-Times. Read his column by CLICKING HERE.

Long Snapper For Long Snapper

And if you want to see the most boring workout video in the history of man, look no further!

Meredith Injury Means Pressure on White

Cam Meredith, my thought to be the Bears breakout player of 2017, was injured in a practice game. But thank God he got the reps, right preseason lovers? No, the preseason is not just a way for owners to rip off a gullible fan base. It’s really, really, super duper important. What does the injury mean moving forward? From Adam Hoge of WGN:

For one, White needs to emerge — immediately. Sunday’s performance was a decent first step, as the third-year wide receiver with just four regular season starts caught two passes for 30 yards, including a 19-yard strike downfield from Glennon. But later in the game, White failed to come down with a high throw from Mitch Trubisky that still hit his hands.

“Myself and the rest of the receivers, I feel like we need to step it up and take some of that load,” White said.

Throughout training camp and the preseason, Glennon has appeared to favor Meredith over White, but now he doesn’t have a choice.

“He’s another guy, with Cam down now, that I think will continue to grow and be that guy in our offense,” Glennon said about White after the game.

Quick Hits

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  • SC Dave

    We signed a new one… Overbaugh.

    I’m surprised you didn’t like the tryout video.

  • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In
    • King of DBB

      Kant predicts the concept of “obscene immortality”.

      Kant postulates three types of judgments:
      1. Positive judgement – one pushes forth a predicate such as “he is alive”.
      2. Negative judgment – to advance a predicate in the negative such as “he is dead”
      3. Infinite judgment – distinct from negative judgment it invalidates the premise. such as “he is neither alive nor dead, he is undead”. Zombies are the manifestation of evil lasting beyond the span of a life.

      Video games are also the fiction of obscene immortality. I can go back and begin again.

      This “undeadness” or proliferation affects things like online dating. If it goes bad, I can simply start over.

      Our reality is paradoxical. We, in truth, cannot distinguish the real from the unreal.
      Pokemon Go is now the perfect intersection of the paradox. Reality is supplemented by the game.

      The greatest player of Pokemon Go was Hitler. To him, the Jew was the Pokemon. Every part of reality is seen as the search for the Jew.

      If you are a racist, you see the Jew or the Black as a rapist or evil figure. Reality is always augmented by the new truth of the augmented reality existing.

      This visible subjectivity enabled by the video game is causing these people to see the world via this subjective prism. Be it extreme right (white supremacist) or ANTIFA (the negation of all supreme predicates), the effect is the same.

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        That is some heavy shit GP. You fit zombies, Hitler, Pokémon, Kant and the effect of video games on the youngish population all into one post.
        “Peaceful” alt right protestors dressed like Hawk and animal with ski goggles on and dudes from Antifa dressed like fucking Snakeyes.
        I was at a Parish picnic yesterday and watched little kids of all colors having the best fucking time ever playing together on those huge jumpies. It was bittersweet to be honest. Time and experience and society will poison a lot of those kids. It was nice to see the innocence.

        • King of DBB

          I tried to work Trestman or Nietzsche into the paradigm, but was unable.

          I find as I get old, I am getting very weird. Not Trac weird, but clearly somewhere along the line.

          • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

            With bitcoin as high as it is you could now easily afford an illegally obtained exotic pet like a mini giraffe or genetically modified dinosaur alligator hybrid. If you’re going to get weird get fucking weird.

          • King of DBB

            Opulence, I has it.

          • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

            haha, the giraffe on the treadmill and then with a workout towel slung around it’s shoulders. Yass.

          • SC Dave

            Maybe he traded in a couple for some exotic hallucinogenics?

          • Have you read Derrida on zombies?

            Sounds like you have. Interesting.

            Also, from what I heard since he used to teach over here, he banged a lot of students

            fucking French.

      • Truth is, there is NO “objective morality” without a God.

        Kant wanted to anchor “objective morality” in reason, but that’s a futile endeavor in-spite of what atheists want you to believe.

        As Hume rightfully pointed out, in the end, morality is based on EMPATHY.

        Hume gave this scenario. If a person had a button to extinct humanity what REASON can one give to persuade him not to?

        In the end, one can’t.

        “Life is sacred” – says who?
        “Killing is wrong” really?
        “Genocide is illogical” Why?

        We are at the mercy of “the other’s” empathy.

        If a person is raised in a semi-loving environment that loosely reflects judeo-christian values (that has been the moral paradigm for roughly 2,000 yrs in the West, right or wrong), then an individual will feel the “proper” amount of empathy – and be deemed “moral” by modern civilization.

        (And even then the person can still “stray”)

        If that child is beat mercilessly every day, or indoctrinated by Nazi parents, then most likely that empathy will vanish.

        There’s always exceptions, but humans by and large are conditioned animals.

        • King of DBB

          For instance:

          Playing Madden 2018 leads one to falsely believe that the slant-in against C2-base is unstoppable. But in the objective reality of real life, a corner can slide down on the slot and jump that shit.

          You are falsely conditioned to believe in a thing that is untrue.

        • SC Dave

          How does empathy require a God?

          • empathy doesn’t require a God.

            That’s why empathy is extremely subjective.

            That is what Hume was trying to argue.

            If there’s a God and you believe in immutable laws, then it doesn’t matter if you feel empathy or not, an action can still be immoral.

            For instance, “thou shall not kill”

            OK. Maybe you’re a psychopath who feels no empathy.

            You kill a person. If you base morality solely on empathy, that murder is not “immoral”since psychopaths are incapable of empathy.

            We allow some of this for the “criminally insane” .

            It may be illegal, but not necessarily immoral.

            However, if a God did in fact lay down the law that killing is wrong with or without empathy, then morality is no longer dependent on the social conditioning of a human’s empathy.

            It’s wrong period. Objectively. Everywhere, for everyone for all time, regardless of reason or empathy.

          • willbest

            Murder can be wrong objectively irrespective of empathy.

            Assume murder is lawful
            Trust deteriorates
            Low trust environments generate short time preferences
            Short time preferences generate fewer resources
            fewer resources means lower quality of life

            You can think of society as one giant ass cartel. Each member in a cartel has an incentive to cheat because doing so maximizes their benefit. But if they are caught then they can be punished by the cartel, or the cartel will dissolve and a price war will ensue. The goal then for a participant then is to cheat and not get caught.

            Empathy isn’t necessary for any of this so long as each individual comes to the conclusion that the risk of cheating outweighs the benefits of cheating.

            The reason Chicago is such a shithole (south and west side) is because CPD only clears 1 in 5 murders. If you limit your victims to rival gang members the odds of you getting away with murder are over 90%.

          • There’s a difference between “wrong” and “immoral”

            You can have REASONS to kill.

            Let’s take everyone’s fav villain, Hitler.

            Millions of catholics were actively trying to kill him.

            If one had killed him, guess what, not only would he be “justified” but he’d prolly be deemed a hero.

            However – the assassin would still have to confess because according to immutable “moral” law, “thou shalt not kill”.

            So one can be “justified” and still be “immoral”.

            The problem with “justified killing” is that it becomes a slippery slope fast (as we all have seen with all these cop shootings and that bozo in florida)

            If you were native american, pretty sure you’d have good “reason” to kill Andrew Jackson

            If you were a slave or northerner, you’d have good “reason” to slay General Lee.

            etc etc

            In the eyes of Neo Nazis, they indeed have their “reasons”. They have thousands of pages pamphlets on doctrine on why “whites’ are superior.

            Jihadists have their own doctrines and reason which over ride their empathy.

            And you’re right, the fear of getting punished is “logical”, unless of course, you think you can get away with it (and which criminal ever believes they’re getting caught?)

            As a lawyer, you should be well acquainted with twisting reason to serve whatever purpose a person wants.

            That’s where a God with immutable laws can come in handy to “civilizing” primates.

          • willbest

            There is a distinction between murder and killing. Now you are probably going to ask for forgiveness because its always given, and its better to ask for forgiveness and not need it than to not ask and need.

            I think you aren’t exactly empathizing with the Jihadis. We are threatening their way of life, and have been for decades. Consider “I have the right to exist” and “I have the right to exist as I have existed before today”. Their actions are quite rational in light of this.

          • SC Dave

            I guess i missed it. I saw no objective morality without a God (you), and morality is based on empathy (Hume). So I (probably fallaciously by some rule of logic) tied empathy to god.

        • Johnnywad

          You’re sitting in an overstuffed leather chair, wearing a smoking jacket and a monacle as you pound this out by the fireplace, aren’t you?

          • willbest

            I am suddenly aware that I haven’t had a cigar in about a year and a half, I am going to have to remedy that at some point.

          • Johnnywad

            I used to smoke cigars whenever I went to the horse track. Maybe three to four times a year. Just used to grab some cheap ass Quorums. Not bad for the price. Been years though. Perhaps it’s time to find a quality one I like.

            It’s getting to be that time of year where I subconsciously start moving away from beer and Gin and Tonic over to a nice scotch. A decent cigar might be a nice bump now and again.

        • willbest

          Animals themselves are conditioned. Our larger brains, and opposable thumbs make us signficantly more adaptable.

        • Scharfinator

          If you kill all of humanity, who are you going to bang?

          • You can kill all the men, I suppose.
            And the fatties.

            Which male would resist that option?

          • Scharfinator

            Gotta have a few bros, but I get your point 🙂

      • Irish Sweetness

        Or if you are a racist, you see white people as the rapist or the evil figure …

      • SC Dave

        We are a football blog, but we do Immanual Kant. And David Hume.

        And no doubt, someone will bring in Jack Kerouac or Carlos Castenada as some kind of equivalent.

        And, damn it, have a rationale that almost works.


        In the greatest of ironies, the Twatterverse no doubt believes all this traffic is over psychosis about a kid QB.

        This place is awesome, and its because of all you assholes.

    • Bobby Douglass

      Besides the fact that I bleed Navy and Burnt, this thread is why I read this site.

  • Rinse. Wash. Repeat.

    FF alert OK, losers. It’s time.

    What I did is re-opened Da League from last yr, so let me know if you guys automatically got invites through your emails, or if I have to send them out again individually.

    The teams last yr:

    Moi, Artoo, NBIT, Trac, Shady, Waffle, GP, Sac, Koolaid man? Bear 505?

    Trac said he might be out, but Irish and Fres said they want in.

    But, this is an open invite. FIRST COME. FIRST SERVE. to any1 reading this.

    So if you guys can, lemme know here who’s in/out that way I know what I’m working with por favor.

    Sooner the better.

    Draft Type/Date: Sept 2 – 10pm Eastern

    (usu takes an hr or so, depending. Auction. $200 budget (not real $$$ unless u use bitcoin)

    The wire is blind bid, which means, you get $100 at the start of the season, and can “bid” on any player for any amount from week to week. This is much better than just awarding losers priority and gives teams more flexibility. If you wanna blow ur wad on on player, fine. If you wanna save for a rainy day, fine. But it’s up to you and not mere chance.

    Shady is the reigning champ, so if you guys want a piece of him, throw ur hat in the ring.

    • Ok, got another in. Name – Prince Akiem and sitton
      (Coming to America ref?)

      Also, I’m slagging with names. I got FF writers block.

      The Jackson Nickles (Eddie Jackson, eh, eh?)
      The Injury formally known as Prince
      Grassu blues
      Break me off a piece of that Kwiat-kat Bar
      Fuller House
      Skuta Dive Bombers
      Shaheen Sex Machines
      The Gul Glennons
      Cruzing 4 Hicks

      Edit. Twas a difficult decisions, but went with Shaheen Sex Machines!

      New Avi


      • King of DBB

        Heavy Metal Tibulas
        Air Jordan Howards
        Kevin White Supremacists
        Fuller House
        Linebackers in the 40s
        Flick your Vic
        Hicks Menthol Rub

        • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

          Linebackers in the 40’s. haha.

        • I just texted MB his FF team name:

          Sitton on the Human Joystick


      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        Internet respect for “The injury formerly…”

    • Sactowns#1

      Got it.

      • Coolio.

        Are you Team Prince Akiem and Sitton?

        • Sactowns#1

          Nope. Haven’t logged in yet but I’m guessing my name will be something like “Gomers Pile”
          “Move up for what?”
          “Scratch my Mitch”
          “Cohen Heads”

    • Corporal Clott

      Thanks for the offer butch but I’ll pass this year. I’m burnt out on FF.

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        I do not approve of that message.

        • Corporal Clott

          Maybe it’s the pneumonia. I feel like death warmed over.

      • Weren’t you the one talking all that trash that you were gonna beat us, now ur out?

        Are you a FRENCH Corporal, maing?

        Get with the program, soldier.

        • Corporal Clott


    • Irish Sweetness

      Not for me, brah, don’t do auctions …

  • evantonio

    Anyone interested in Bears tickets? I’m on year 1 of being a season ticket holder but sure as Enis can’t make it out for all the game.

    Seats are Section 430, Row 35, Seats 17-18. Not the best seats, but apparently the treat us rookies like, well, rookies. Selling at face value. Anyone interested?

    September 10 – Atlanta Falcons
    December 3 – San Francisco 49ers
    December 24 – Cleveland Browns

    • Wow. Ur missing the opener?
      That should be off the hook.

      • evantonio

        sometimes life gets in the way of life.

        • King of DBB

          if you had three seats I would have bought the opener from you.

          • Johnnywad



      I bought tickets to nov12.
      .429 row 12 20 to 21 an dam my canadian dollar

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    What was I watching? I thought it was a highlight video of a college long snapper however there was a problem. Where was the offensive rap song playing in the background?

  • King of DBB

    I used to see a chick in Houston long time ago. Crazy broad looked like Julie Newmar as Catwoman. Fun in given ways. Always thought the city felt like swamp even moreso than Florida.

    But Houston is looking at 15 to 25 more inches. The city is going full Noah. Refugees already stand at 40k now, going to be more.

    • SC Dave

      Probably end up in the 500k range. That’s a fuckton of water, and Houston is built atop a drained swamp for crissakes.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        I did not know that.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Yes. much of Houston is at or below sea level.

    • That Guy

      They’re up to about 12 trillion gallons of water in the metro area. 9 trillion is a cube of water 2 miles on a side.

      Houston averages about 50 inches of rain a year. So they’ve gotten about 6 months’ worth in 72 hours, with another 6 months yet to come over the next couple days.

      Where do the Texans play? Wonder when it gets turned into an emergency shelter.

      • SC Dave

        I’m not believing the 12 trillion, unless the metro is MANY times larger than the city.

        I did a back of napkin on 500,000 billion (1/24 of what you’re talking) over the 667 sq miles of Houston. Came out to about 3.6 ft of water. If the metro is 12 times the size of the city, that would be ~84 inches of rain.

        Edit: okay… 10,000 sq miles in Houston metro, which shocks me as that would be a 100×100 mile square.

        Had i my computer id figure this out, but too much effort on the tiny screen

        • AlbertInTucson

          It’s still figures to be about a year’s worth of rain for the area.

          There’s no such thing as flood contriol for THAT amount of water in THIS amount of time.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Didn’t Cam break out last year?

    • Johnnywad

      Is 66 catches and 888 yards breaking out?

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        For an udfa definitely

        • Johnnywad

          Then yes.

          • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

            I am going to watch it again. I’m pretty confident that him not being a natural WR contributed to that injury. After he caught that ball he didn’t seem to brace for impact, try a stiff arm, angle his body, etc.

            He just kept running and when he planted and got hit he just crumbled. His style looked awkward.

          • Johnnywad

            Tough to pin that one down. The slightest degree of change from any of the three at the moment of impact and it’s just a hard hit.

      • willbest

        Its also important to keep in mind that for the first 3.5 games the Bears were hell bent on getting Kevin White his touches and Royal was healthyish so Cam was 4th on the depth chart.

        • willbest

          excuse me. 5th. They still had Wilson last year too.

        • Johnnywad

          I’m not suggesting he didn’t break out. Just kind of curious where the bar was set.
          Those are impressive stats for an UDFA.
          But if Kevin White were a healthy rook a couple years back and posted those same numbers, I doubt we’d be calling it a break out season.
          Draft pedigree definitely is a factor.

      • AlbertInTucson

        For a guy like Cam, I would say “yes”.

      • Irish Sweetness

        4 TDs … 66 catches … that’s something.

  • SC Dave

    For you fans of tasty beers (and no, I DON’T mean Guiness) consider a Jai Alai from Cigar City out of Tampa.

    I’m in the White Mountains early September, and likely too just done to attempt to catch the Beloved there on the 17th. Would be a good road trip otherwise.

    Tampa is about an 8 hours drive from here…

  • Malice Halice

    Don’t know if u guys tolerate these types of questions here: should I start Stephon Diggs (against NO) over Pryor(Phi) or Jeffery (Was)? Vikes Oline sucks balls but NO defense sucks as wel. Also, Diggs most likely can face Dbl coverage cuz he’s all they got. While Jefferey n Pryor r the best option for their QB’s.

    • AlbertInTucson

      The only time Diggs star has shone brightly was against the Bears.

      • Malice Halice

        That’s true, he did get 65 yards against the L.O.B last week as well tho.

        • AlbertInTucson

          I have to admit, The Saints D IS a worthy incentive in Diggs’ favor.

      • BerwynBomber

        Didn’t he burn the Chesse pretty badly last year in that early SNF game when the Vikes’ D knocked the crap out of Rodgers?

        W/out looking, seems like Diggs’ issue is one of durability/availability more than anything else.

    • willbest

      You do FF for the pre-season? Isn’t that a little too hardcore?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Isn’t Thielen the fantasy guy there? I think Latavius will make his bones, too.

  • SC Dave

    Was reading Malice’s most recent post, and thought I’d comment but more generally.

    In the past, some regs have put a preamble in their original post about it being FF related.

    I, for one, appreciated that and doubt that I am alone.

    Perhaps you guys could consider prefacing your original (i.e. new) posts with something easy such as “FF:” so that We That Don’t Care can close up the entire thread?

    Non-FF fan

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Great idea Dave!
      Building on that idea, can you guys preface the political stuff with “BS:” so we can ignore those too?

      • AlbertInTucson

        Given a choice, I’ll take the FF posts.

      • Scharfinator

        YES BS AND FF and… TT for Titty Thursday?

    • I usually do FF alert in bold.
      I used to not play, so I know how annoying it can be.
      I also used to hate those little ff stats during games when I didn’t play.

      • SC Dave

        Thanks Butch, I appreciate it. Sincerely.

    • willbest

      You want a trigger warning for fantasy football?

      • Scharfinator

        Just a filter, more like.

  • AlbertInTucson

    South Texas rain.

    In an average year, Tucson gets about 12 inches of rain in a year.

    Houston has had more than twice that in the last 72 hours.

    Some places it’s over 30 inches.

    And Harvey will likely drop another 12 inches, or more, in the NEXT 72 hours.


    I get nervous when we get a micro burst around here.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Oh, and FUCK the scam artists swooping in as fake charities to “Collect aid for South Texas” and such.

    I hope you all drown.

    • willbest

      Is that better or worse than the looters?

      • Irish Sweetness

        Stores are protected by insurance – or are they? Is damage/loss covered by a looter’s insurance?

        • SC Dave

          How is that relevant?

      • SC Dave

        About the same.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I think worse. The looters aren’t pretending to help.

    • I don’t advocate public caning, but when I hear stories like this…

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Totally agree. Also FUCK any insurance company that attempts to screw over any of their customers on their claims. After every natural disaster we hear reports of insurance companies purposely miss identifying damage to save money. This is a widespread problem with the industry, that does not get the attention that is needed.

      • you just described every insurance company

        • CanadaBear

          I had a $97K claim due to water damage and they even waived the $1K deductible. I was shocked. The treated me well.

          • In Canada, I’m guessing?

          • CanadaBear

            Of course!

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I am guessing they even apologized to you and also offered you a maple glazed donut.

          • CanadaBear

            They were sorry!

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            no donut?

          • CanadaBear

            Not a doughnut kinda guy.

      • SC Dave

        You don’t pay enough premiums to cover everything.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          In hurricanes – like Sandy and Katrina. It was discovered that there was concerted efforts to misclassify damage as water damage vs wind damage. Insurance companies get off the hook when it is water damage because of some Federal regulation, therefore they were classifying damage as water related. It was proven that several Insurance Companies had gone back and changed damage reports, and pressured inspectors to classify damage incorrectly.


          • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

            This is how Free Markets work.

            And this is how we enjoy Freedumb.

            Greedy Insurance companies = Good.

            Big Gubmint = Bad.

          • Distraught Houston home owner, “Ok, massive water damage destroyed my house”

            Insurance clerk, “Well, technically, the WIND blew in the water, so it’s really wind damage, and you’re not covered for wind. That was a different package which we’re happy to offer you a discount on now because we care.”

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            You sound like an Idiot.

          • willbest

            They get off the hook because flood damage is not covered on a standard policy. However, water damage from system failures are.

            So if your water heater breaks and the water destroys a bunch of stuff, or your sewer system backs up into your house these events are covered. But if your house fills with 3000 gallons of rain water then you have to have bought separate insurance.

            Hurricanes have a lot of wind and water, and the problems are exacerbated by the fact that the homeowner often isn’t present which means there aren’t any witnesses to the events.

            I know you wouldn’t say that an insurance company should cover damage the homeowner wasn’t paying to cover. No rational person believes that. So the question becomes how much zeal should an insurance company use in order to avoid paying for damage that it wasn’t covered.

            Applying pressure to the “3rd party” adjusters to reclassify something when their first analysis was unfavorable to the insurance company is disgusting. If the insurance company wants to avoid paying out in that situation they should do what the homeowner has to do and head to arbitration or whatever appeals process is set up in the contract. Of course, our system of resolving disputes in this country is both very expensive and time consume, not exactly an ideal spot to be in when all your possessions were just destroyed.

            The thing to do would probably just not insure Hurricanes at all without the separate rider that covers all the water damage associated with it.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I am not talking about idiot people that do not carry the correct coverage or enough coverage. That’s those idiot’s fault. But when an insurance company makes changes to damage reports and tries to screw people, that have the correct coverage, is the problem. It’s fucking wrong. And as you said it forces people that have just lost everything to spend money and time to dispute it. Then to top it off when those people are successful in their disputes, a non disclosure agreement is tacked on so the public does not hear about what actually happens.

          • SC Dave

            Perhaps the core problem is the regulation that provides the incentive to reclassify in the first place?

          • willbest

            In that situation is the disconnect between what the homeowner thinks

            “If something bad happens to my house, you pay for it” and what they are actually getting “these 347 specific cases of damages are covered, provided you have adequately performed your duty of care (ie. weren’t cooking meth)”

            And most people are idiots, so even if the insurance company isn’t trying to hide anything, and forthrightly answering any question they have you will still have this disparity in belief of what is covered and isn’t covered.

            Like rioting is typically excluded from insurance policies. As would be rebellion. Which incidentally, antifa could be described as doing.

            The other concern with Insurance is minimal capitalization, because the scammers would just take your money spend it now, and when a hurricane came through be living in Thailand while not paying.

            And this is where I differ from libertarians. There is a Goldilocks approach to regulation. Too little and you are stuck litigating every little detail. Trust evaporates and it harms economic activity. Too much, and its used to reduce competition and creates excessively expensive compliance costs, which in turn reduce economic activity.

  • willbest

    Matt Stafford is now the highest paid QB in the NFL.

    • I wonder how Vadgers feel.

      First, Cargo paid more than him.
      Now Stafford.
      Next, Bradford!

      • King of DBB

        How does he feel now that Olivia Munn is taking the bone from Jaime Foxx?

        • CanadaBear

          I’m guessing he’s OK if his platonic friend has a boyfriend!

        • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

          Jamie Foxx is working his way through Katie Holmes and Olivia Munn? Kudos to you sir!

  • willbest

    “Think he’s a better Luck” – Jeff on Trubisky’s pocket presence.

    I want you to put down whatever you are drinking, snorting, or smoking and never use it again. Ever.

    • I don’t know. Doesn’t Luck remind you of a certain someone?

      A certain player who had all the talent in the world, but turned it over way too much and became injury prone?

      Granted, Luck doesn’t come with the apathy tag; plus, he’s been much more productive with TDs and running. Still, can we say Luck is “elite”?

      Has he progressed since his rookie yr? He still looks like the same QB to me.

      You know who else looked the same from his rookie yr to his 12th yr?

      The eerie part is that Indy fans will give Luck the benefit of the doubt for many more years, claiming horrible Oline, dud WRs, bozo coaching…

      Deja vu all over again…

      • beninnorcal

        Luck definately has some ‘cargo’ tendencies. No doubt.

        • willbest

          He needs a D he can trust and an O-line he can trust. There is a reason why Brady has 5 rings and Rodgers and Brees only have 1. Luck will get his ring too, the 1 year Indy’s D has its act together.

      • BerwynBomber

        Significantly higher ceiling (already). Led his team to the post-season three times (already).

        But otherwise I get the loose comp due to the TOs.

        Style of play, though, I see Luck and Wentz most alike.

      • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

        Luck was the most pro ready qb to enter NFL since peyton manning. But he has not made the leap that Wilson made or Rodgers made.

        Trub doesn’t remind me of Luck What we have seen of Trub has been mostly out of pocket. And outside the pocket, on the move he looks as comfortable as Rodgers. I have been seen saying he is slippery.

        Btw, here is Rodgers tape from his rookie preseason in 2005. Trubs 2017 preaseason tape looks better to me. I wonder how much progress Trub can make over the next few years on his 2017 preseason tape.

        Aaron Rodgers’ Rookie 2005 Preseason Highlights & Struggles

        • Dak and Wilson in their ROOKIE yrs looked better than vet Luck.

          That’s why I sorta get Jeff’s play the kid mantra.

          However, I tend to be more conservative when it comes to fooball.

          I still believe Trub can learn a lot from the bench, filmroom, mechanical reps and simply going through some of the NFL grind, b4 he steps foot on a field with 80K fans going nuts and everyone flying around 100MPH

          • BerwynBomber

            Though we should remember that Dak was playing with the best O-line in the league, an HoFer TE, a top five WR and arguably the best pure rushing RB.

            I think Dak is the real deal, but no rookie QB ever had a better supporting cast.

          • And Wilson also had a strong team structure.

            But from glancing at Jeff tweets, he seems to argue that the Bears have a better team than most suspect, and as such, #playDaKid.

            I don’t know if our team is anywhere near the 16 Cowboys or 12 Hawks though.

            Ergo, Glennon.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Roethlisberger came into a pretty sweet situation with Steelers his rookie year. HOF RB, 3 PB on the Oline, PB at WR, and one of the league’s best defenses.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Anyone that sold on Luck? Sorry, I just haven’t seen him that much I guess. Mitchell has impressed me, and that doesn’t often happen with QBs. Other than his arm, mechanics, ability to roll-out etc., it’s his rainbows being on target that really impress me – the sideline bombs. They were not Cutty’s specialty shall we say. He dropped one into Deonte’s basket the other day that was sweet. He might become the defacto #1.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Vontaz Burfect with his annual “Why I went from 1st round prospect to UNDRAFTED” message.”

    • Scharfinator


  • King of DBB

    Both Texas senators and 18 house reps voted AGAINST additional federal funding for Katrina victims.

    Wonder how they will vote now?

    • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

      Teabaggers = shameless hypocrites

    • willbest

      The use of the word “additional” has me questioning how much money was originally allocated in each and then comparing that to the population displacement and property damage in each situation before I start screaming about them being racist and/or homers.

    • Corporal Clott

      They’ll vote the way they’re told to vote, mmmkay?

  • King of DBB

    When it came to the Irishman’s dreaded power, it would appear Mayweather wasn’t that impressed.

    “As far as his punching power – he’s fair,” Mayweather said in a press conference after the pay-per-view main event at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. “I’ve felt it before, so that’s why I kept coming straight ahead.

    “Obviously, it wasn’t the type of power to say, ‘I can’t come forward.’ Because if it were that type of power, I wouldn’t have come forward. But I did and finished it.”

    • BerwynBomber

      Yup. Said before the fight that punching power in MMA vs. Boxing are two different things and that McGregor’s wouldn’t transfer that well. That said, sounds like he didn’t totally embarrass himself.

      Now get back to the octagon.

      • King of DBB

        MacGregor kept hammer fisting the back of Mayweather’s head. He was called out three times, I figured he was going to get a point deduction – but they never did. It just seemed to piss Mayweather off, but it was like he couldn’t help himself in doing it.

        • CanadaBear

          Didn’t see the fight (just the last rd). The Blues Fest I was part of was this weekend. Way too tired to look through posts. Has Irish taken his beating on here? He should. He was talking out his ass just like CM.

          How was the Bears game? Other than the injuries did anyone stand out?

          • King of DBB

            The Titans didn’t score until the 4th Q. The Titans coach was so pissed they were getting blanked he made the starters stay in there until they scored.

            The 96 yard drive was great – I personally felt that Birdcage opened up the playbook and ran some more sophisticated plays in an effort to make Glennon look good. Once that drive was over, Glennon reverted to mediocre. But he looked sharp then.

          • Haha I told you jabrones if the 1st team struggles the HC will leave the starters out there.

            Coaches are sooooo predictable.

            They prolly all still chew sunflowers seeds, wear raybans, and shout stupid shit like “from hero to zero on one play!”

          • CanadaBear

            Is there a problem with Ray Bans? I guess I missed the memo.

          • Nah, just EVERY football coach I ever played under wore them (or Oakleys). It was like some unofficial uniform.

            They always looked something like this


            I also call them the “I’m a white stiff who doesn’t want to get laid” sunglasses lol

          • CanadaBear

            Not a fan of Oakley’s. Gotta keep in mind, us old guys grew up with Ray Bans.

          • I had raybans before. But they def were NOT that style.

            Those style of oakleys or rainbans were part of the football coaching trifeta of seeds/chew and 70s shorts

          • CanadaBear

            I’ve worn the tried and true Wayfarers for years and now wear the wraparounds (prescription).

          • Bender McLugh

            Kendall Wright showed up, I think from the slot (maybe?), which was good to see. Hope he makes the 53

        • willbest

          Mayweather kept lowering his head to invite those punches though. I know McGregor stepped around a couple times, but Mayweather turned his back to him at one point.

          The other issue is McG just has all that MMA muscle memory. He isn’t going to break that with a few months of training, especially when the adrenaline is going and instinct takes over.

        • Yeah, I was rehashing the fight to my friend at dinner last night, and I found myself saying “he just doesn’t have the BOXING instincts to win in the squared ring”

          Just the little things, like doubling up on your jab, or coming in with gloves up, body blows, counters, set-ups, footwork, pacing

          His instincts are honed for rabbit punches, kicks, backhands, take downs, chokes and submissions.

          Not sure if that can be rewired.

          My friend said, “Well, McG probably opened up the door for other MMA fighters to box”

          I said, “I don’t know. I think he may have SHUT the door on that. McG is seen as one of the best, and he was defeated soundly by some 40 yd old who came out of retirement and supposedly was hanging late at strip bars every night. Unless the MMA boxer has SERIOUS boxing background, don’t even know if he’d be considered”

          I’ll give McG props though. He lasted MUCH longer than Floyd would’ve have in the octagon.

          • willbest

            That presupposes Floyd just wasn’t playing with him. There was also a rumor that he tried to be $400k on himself to win by knockout in 9.5 rounds.

            Not having watched Mayweather fight extensively, I presume that his slow start was in part to not have the bout end too early, just to leave the door open to try it again sometime.

          • Nah. I believe Floyd when he said the plan was to let McG gas out then come in after the 25 min mark.

            Floyd didn’t know McG’s punching power till he stepped in the ring. Once he felt it, he prolly decided he can stick to the plan cuz he’s in no real danger.

            Could be he tried to string out though for $.

            It’s boxing and it’s Vegas.

            One of the reasons I stopped watching boxing for a long time.

  • King of DBB

    Bubble post – or WHO GETS CUT

    I only have 48 sure things. I have a lot of “dunno”. This may be the weakest I’ve been after PSG3 in 25 years knowing the roster, perhaps a sign of my Bears fandom slippage. If anyone wants to weigh in or make corrections go ahead.

    Acho, Sam LB – 1
    Aguayo, Roberto K – Cut
    Amos, Adrian DB – 2
    Amukamara, Prince DB – 3
    Anderson, Jonathan LB – Cut
    Banks, Johnthan DB – not sure on this
    Barth, Connor K – 4
    Bellamy, Josh WR – 5
    Boggs, Taylor OL – not sure
    Braunecker, Ben TE – Cut
    Braverman, Daniel WR – Cut
    Brown, Daniel TE – not sure
    Bullard, Jonathan DL – 6
    Burton, Michael FB – who has looked better?
    Bush, Deon DB – not sure
    Callahan, Bryce DB – maybe
    Carey, Ka’Deem RB – Cut
    Cohen, Tarik RB – 7
    Compton, Tom OL – not sure
    Cooper, Marcus DB – 8
    Coward, Rashaad DL – Cut
    Cruz, Victor WR – Cut
    Cunningham, Benny RB – 9
    Davis, Titus WR – Cut
    Demps, Quintin DB – 10
    Floyd, Leonard LB – 11
    Freeman, Jerrell LB – 12
    Fuller, Kyle DB – 13
    Gentry, Tanner WR – 14
    Glennon, Mike QB – Cut. Just kidding. – 15
    Goldman, Eddie DL – 16
    Grasu, Hroniss OL – 17
    Greene, Brandon OG – not sure
    Hall, Deiondre’ DB – not sure
    Hicks, Akiem DL – 18
    Houston-Carson, DeAndre DB – probably cut
    Houston, Lamarr LB – should be cut
    Howard Jr., Jaye DL – 19
    Howard, Alton WR – not sure
    Howard, Jordan RB – 20
    Irving, Isaiah LB – not sure
    Jackson, Eddie DB – 21
    Jenkins, John DL – not sure
    Jones-Quartey, Harold DB – not sure
    Jones, Christian LB – 22
    Joseph, Dieugot OL – not sure
    Kirsch, Mitchell OL – not sure
    Kwiatkoski, Nick LB – 23
    Langford, Jeremy RB – Cut?
    LeBlanc, Cre’Von DB – 24
    Leno Jr., Charles OL – 25
    Long, Kyle OL – PUP
    Massie, Bobby OL – 26
    McManis, Sherrick DB – 27 or maybe not
    McPhee, Pernell LB – 28
    Meredith, Cameron WR – IR
    Miller, Zach TE – 29
    Morgan, Jordan OL – 29
    O’Donnell, Pat P – 30
    Overbaugh, Jeff LS – not sure
    Poehls, William OL – 30
    Prosinski, Chris DB – 31
    Pruitt, MyCole TE – not sure
    Reynolds, Rashaad DB – not sure
    Richardson, Cyril OL – not sure
    Robertson-Harris, Roy DL – 32
    Rounds, Josh RB – actually my longshot pick to be RB4 due to ST play
    Sanchez, Mark QB – 33
    Shaheen, Adam TE – 34
    Shaw, Connor QB – Cut
    Sheppard, Kelvin LB – not sure
    Sims, Dion TE – 35
    Sitton, Josh OL – 36
    Skuta, Dan LB – 37
    Sowell, Bradley OL – 38
    Stevenson, Freddie FB – not sure
    Thompson, Deonte WR – 39
    Timu, John LB – 40
    Trevathan, Danny LB – 41
    Trubisky, Mitchell QB – 42
    Unrein, Mitch DL – 43
    Webb, B.W. DB – not sure
    Wheaton, Markus WR – 44
    Whitehair, Cody OL – 45
    White, Kevin WR – 46
    Wilson, C.J. DL – not sure
    Wright, Kendall WR – 47
    Young, Willie LB – 48

    • leftcoastdave

      Is Sanchez still needed?

      Can he become a coach, or is there a rule against that?

    • SC Dave

      You have two 29s, so it looks lile you’re at 49.

    • willbest

      Much to my dismay, Houston is going to be a really expensive Bear this year.

      • Haha you’ve been predicting his cut since Jan!

        He’s like the Houston storm…just doesn’t go away.

    • It’s not that your homerdom is waning, merely that some murky injuries and none of the scrubs really claiming the job make it harder than usual to see who’s getting cut or not.

      For instance, the Long INJ. Will he go on that early IR with possibility to return? Fox to no one’s surprise has been rather tight lipped about that. If Long does go on IR maybe Bears keep both Morgan and Compton (or maybe even Boggs if they prefer a vet to rook)

      That backup OT (Sowell?) filled in as emergency long snapper and didn’t fuck up?

      Is that enough? 2 for 1 there as swing and long snapper.

      Which bubble CB really stood out?

      Prince was INJ but I doubt he’s getting cut.
      Cooper most likely is safe.
      Callahan is hurt already, but is that enough to cut?
      Fuller prolly showed enough to stick
      McMannis stays for specials

      But the rest? who knows. I’m guessing Le Blanc stays because Fox is Fox.

      WR is another tricky one at the bubble.

      White, Wright, Gentry, and Wheaton most likely stick
      Bellamy (the McMannis of WRs) might stick, but now that Cam is down, Fox may actually want someone who can catch.

      Thompson I think did enough, but Fox likes his vets. Could easily see him roll with some other option.

      Burton is more a philosophical thing. FB or no FB? If yes, then he sticks.
      If Birdcage goes that bullshit “h back” route, then he’s gone.

      TE IMO is clear cut. Miller, Sims, Shaheen.
      But if the go the pussy h-back route, maybe Brown, Braunk or Pruitt stick

      S should be – Demps, Jackson, Amos…and…..?

      Maybe Hall sticks here as back up S/CB saving them a roster spot.

      The 3rd HB should be interesting.

      I love me Benny the Jet, but Langford was Pace’s pick, and he didn’t suck last game.

      Rounds is indeed a dark horse, but I think they’ll try to stash him on the PS.

      ILB, Freeman, Tre, Kwiat and Jones are locks to me. The rest, Anderson/Timu, etc, throw a dart

      The last DE spot should be intersting too.

      Do they think Howard is recovered? Did Skuta do enough? RRH looks safe, but never know. CJ Wilson?

      I don’t even really know what they’re doing at QB. They may only carry 2 when they’re squeezed.
      May say, “Thanks, Mark, but Glennon didn’t completely blow in the dress rehearsal, and you’ve helped Trub enough.”

  • King of DBB
    • willbest

      He cares how her ass looks at all times. Its the details you know.

  • King of DBB

    Waffle –

    OK pulling the parachute at 4648. I want to thank the DPRK for that last $200 burst. Mazeltov!

    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      Haha, we can always count on Russia, DPRK or some south American dictator to help us out. I’m sitting at work today printing money because of DPRK idiocy.

      • willbest

        You volatility vulture.

  • Oh. S TJ Ward might be on the block.

    How awesome would that be to go from Amos and Prosinski to Ward and Demps!


    • Oh deum. On that note, any takers for Hayden, his groin and $11M cap?


    • CanadaBear

      I’m actually really excited to see what Jackson has.

      • I feel the same.

        Of course, if he flames out, could’ve had Ward!

        I don’t think Pace will make any aggressive trades at this point. But maybe he should with an eye towards next year.

        The season of Trub.

    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      You go get Ward and/or Haden only if you’re willing to start Trubisky.

      • I would be leaning more towards Ward.
        He’s a tone setter and captain. Has Fox/Tre connection too.

        Ward and Demps with Amos/Jackson as backups, holy shit.

        That would instantly become our strongest unit.

        Haydne, dunno. He’s been inj riddled, and I’m burnt out on inj riddled CBs.

      • willbest

        The reasoning? It doesn’t affect Trubisky’s side of the ball. Ward is only 30, so he can be a part of your future and not a win now pick up.

  • BerwynBomber
  • CanadaBear

    Just read the Jets are offering Forte to the highest bidder. I’m guessing he gets released. I’m not banging the drum for him, if the Beloved picked him up he would be either RB3 or RB4.

    • willbest

      Hm… a 32 year old Forte or Langford… I would go with the former.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        awe hell NO.

    • SC Dave

      I can’t see us going back, unless it is an “honorary” contract in case he wants to retire a Bear.

  • CanadaBear

    From PK in SI talking to Cutler.

    Final question: “Ever get pissed at how you’re perceived?”

    Pause. “Ummm,” he said. (His only pause to think during a short interview.) “Not really. Some of it is my fault. Some of it is how things went down. It is what it is. Right now I am just trying to make an impact with these guys and get to know them as quickly as possible so that we can have a good season.”

    Honest as always.

  • WP4Life

    JD: In somewhat of a surprise, Chicago Bears head coach John Fox says veteran QB Mark Sanchez will not play Thursday night vs. Cleveland. Fox says Mitchell Trubisky and Connor Shaw will quarterback the exhibition finale.

    • willbest

      I hope that means Sanchez isn’t making the 53-man and they don’t want to risk his injury. Alternatively, it could mean that they want to get Trubisky reps while making a decision on if Shaw should be their PS QB while kicking Sanchez to the curb or if they will have to roll with Sanchez.

  • willbest

    The FDA is going to allow clinical trials on the use of ecstasy in treating PTSD.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      I think i may be suffering from PTSD now

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      btw – new thread

    • Irish Sweetness

      There’s MDMA in Effexor, which is prescribed for clinical depression. Different kind of drug-pushing. Taxable kind. Nice and legal.

  • Irish Sweetness

    I have arrived at my feeling on the Trubisky debate, alert the media.

    So I’m watching Total Access and one of the heads (Heath?) goes “Trubisky still has to develop mentally.” Bang. The missing link. Said he’d been facing man-coverage and the 2nds and 3rd string defenses. Let’s see him under the lights against a real defense.

    Professional killers intent on hurting him? Do we want that? In the first half of the season and risk getting him killed? When the schedule looks a bit rough? Really?

    If there’s a chance young Mitchell could shit the bid early in the season, because all of a sudden the blitzes are coming and the coverage is better… and after already alienating your salaried starter …. it’s just safer and more diligent to bring him into the fold first, methinks.

    There’s no rush .. .for about 8 weeks …. and to rush is to risk, when risk is not required. Glennon will be adequately mediocre enough to roll over and die when Mitch gets the nod. Too early is too soon.

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