• SC Dave

    I go with Flip because it’s ballsy.

    • SC Dave

      Oh, and thanks for omiting Harbaugh. Tired of reading calls for that jerk.

      • leftcoastdave

        Hairball, the only Big Ten coach to lose a bowl game this season.

        • That Guy

          Yeah, the shine is off for me. He was thoroughly unable to win that game. When SC got momentum, Harbs had nothing in response.

          I still like the guy, but his in-game management is lacking. And I’m done with coaches who do a great job every day of the week but Sunday.

          • BearDown100393

            So what he did in San Fran is now trivialized?

        • evantonio

          “The Audible”

      • Bear Instincts

        He’s staying at Michigan anyway. Shaw is not leaving college.

  • Viva Dave Toub

    Dave Toub for HC.

    • BearDown100393

      He will still be around after this new guy is fired.

    • catfish44

      yep. great organizer. great with players. not much chance though.

  • Dis Guy Trublinsky

    Jeff, what do you know about McDaniels? You’ve mentioned a couple times it’s not happening. Curious.

    • That Guy

      Maybe it’s wishful thinking?

      Denver was a tire fire with McDaniels. Any organization that hires him as a HC has to be certain that he’s changed dramatically as a leader of men, but retains all his OC acumen and insight.

      Personally, I wouldn’t hire McDaniels to wash my car. I don’t think there are many guys who can fail so dramatically as an NFL head coach, learn from it, and come back a better coach. The guys people tend to pull out as examples of guys who succeed after crashing and burning are guys who will go down as coaching freaks of nature–Belicheat and Carroll–exceptions that prove the rule.

      • evantonio

        What sort of skills does one need to wash a car? Seems to me it’s pretty menial task where even the worst of Pop Warner coaches should be able to get it done.

        • BearDown100393

          It was enough to motivate Walter White to find a new line of work.

      • One Brown Bear

        Didn’t Cleveland fire Bellacheat? Just sayin…

        • willbest

          They did, but if I recall that was associated with a move to baltimore. I would also like to point out that his 36-44 record is the best Cleveland has seen in a HC since.

          • BerwynBomber

            He was also was the last Browns HC to win a playoff game, I believe.
            Also worth noting that Carroll was above .500 his first HC go-round.

        • BearDown100393

          More to do with the team leaving town

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Poll results don’t matter. If Philips even sits in on an interview whoever is eventually chosen will be cursed to lose. It does not matter who has the final say on whoever is hired, just having those Philips even remotely involved in anything will doom it. Unfortunately even if Philips decides to sit out all the decisions, he is still part of the organization so anyone hired is doomed to fail. The only way any new HC will succeed is if Philips is fired, followed by the Pope coming to Halas Hall to perform an ancient Catholic purification ritual, followed by the sacrificing of a virgin, and then Halas Hall has to be doused in goats blood.

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      hey, the Cubs won the World Series without…most… of that being necessary.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        The Cubs just did not let anyone know what they had to do. All those renovations are actually done to hide the fact they opened a gate to hell.

        • CanadaBear

          Being a life-long Cub fan, I’m OK with that!

    • DaMurph

      Just get the Honey Bears back! Since they were dismissed its been all down hill! Curse of the Honey Bears!

      • CanadaBear

        Going to games in the ’70’s, that was the best in-game experience!

    • SC Dave

      Poll results pick your President.

  • BearDown100393

    We can all trust McCaskey & Phillips to hire the perfect head coach.

    And when it doesnt work out, Puppet will take the blame and get fired.

  • That Guy

    Why isn’t Shaw a choice?

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      both Shaw and Harbaugh have stated they are not leaving their current college jobs.

  • That Guy

    My top three candidates, based on very little actual knowledge (in no particular order):

    Shaw
    Flip
    Toub

    A really good GM could maybe work out two of those together as HC & OC.

    • Carlos Pendleton

      Most teams won’t allow a HC or OC go sideways so they’ll have to get a headcoach job

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        yep, good thing Shaw is a college, and Flip is only a QB coach.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          And Toub is a ST coach still, right? Or did he get a new title?

  • That Guy

    Isn’t Steve Wilks the bald guy from Jerry Springer who got his own “talk” show?

    • bearfaninde

      Lol

    • CanadaBear

      Pretty sure he’s the black guy from Carolina satisfying the Rooney Rule. Not that he isn’t a viable candidate.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Shurmur really intrigues me. Not just the fact he has made Keenum look like a viable NFL QB. Saw an article or an interview with him about taking over for Turner last year. He basically stated that in order to keep continuity he kept a lot of Turner’s playbook and language, just made tweeks that benefited the skill sets of his QBs. He also has HC experience, 9 wins in two years with the Browns, he must be a miracle worker.

    • BearDown100393

      He might be the one.

  • willbest

    I don’t know why Pace would even bother interviewing McDanniels if its “not happening”

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Pick his brain. Get a possible idea of potential tendencies. He may be hired elsewhere, having an additional insight from an interview could be beneficial.

      • willbest

        That worked so well for Emery.

        • Bear Instincts

          Emery was an idiot. Pace is a little bit better. I’m worried about this HC thing because its become very clear after yesterday that he really hired Fox without any pressure. That is scary to think of when you add the Giraffe Gaffe decision into the mix.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Fox was regarded by nearly everybody in, or that covers, the NFL at the time as a slam dunk for the Bears.

          • Bear Instincts

            Absolutely right. Even I was all in on Fox at the time. But that’s why they dont pay you or me the big bucks. Pace is starting to resemble Cutty. When hes hot hes hot but when hes not his mistakes are killer like Cuttys INT’s: Fox, Giraffe Gaffe and FA signings.

            I’m very nervous about this HC thing. If he makes a mistake here we are going to be set back for some years to come

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Yep. If Pace blows this hire, or if he was wrong on Trubisky, we’re two years away at minimum from everybody getting fired and completely resetting the clock.

            I’d say I’m somewhere closer to excited than nervous. I think Pace will get this right. And I believe Mitch will prove to be worth the risk.

          • Bear Instincts

            I’m not worried about MT10. Everyone seems to say only positive things about him: work ethic, leadership, quick study…ect.
            I’m a hug Pace fanboy because of how bad Angelo/Emery were his easy to get out of FA contracts and his solid draft picks (not great but solid) but his mistakes give me reason to pause.
            I’m excited 49%excited & 51%worried

          • BearDown100393

            Mitch is the least of the Bears current problems.

          • Pretty Boy Assassin

            And yet, one that needs a ton of attention. What’s best for him needs to be at the front of the organization’s mind.

          • BearDown100393

            Nobody wants to witness Mitch get Rex’d.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Walking the high wire without the big old balance pole.

          • BearDown100393

            The candidates mentioned at face value seem pretty good. Nobody really knows how a hire new to the position itself will actually turn out.

          • BearDown100393

            McCaskey and Phillips are hiring the HC. Puppet just signs off to be scapegoated later.

          • AlbertInTucson

            And those same folks all swore up and down that The Ravens were THE team you didn’t want to face in the playoffs.

            Whoops.

            It’s just like the draft.

            It’s ALWAYS a crapshoot.

          • Bear Instincts

            Exactly. And because its a crap shoot we have to trust Pace. The same guy who say fit to hire Fox over Dan Quinn and thought Giraffe Gaffe was the best QB option. I’m a Pace fan boy but even I have to pause and ask questions. Picking the HC that will mentor MT10 from college QB into an NFL QB that can win us multiple SB’s is a serious thing and I’m nervous about Pace getting it wrong like he got Fox and Giraffe Gaffe wrong

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            The only thing wrong with the Giraffe pick was the price tag, and even then it was not a bad contract since it was basically 1 year.

            Go look at all the FA QBs that were available last year and how they did.

            Hoyer – benched for CJ Beathard
            McCown – Injured – He did not have a bad year but he is 38.
            Cutler – Cutlered
            Foles – backup.

            The only QB FA that has been worth a shit was Keenum, and NO ONE would have guessed that.

            The rest of the QBs available would have had all of us storming Halas Hall demanding blood if they were signed to be starters.

          • BearDown100393

            You list 3 former Bears and defeat your point. Way to go.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Those were the “Best” FA QBs.

          • BearDown100393

            Other than Kaepernick who is hated amongst racists.

          • AlbertInTucson

            It’s a crapshoot.

            Period.

          • BearDown100393

            Yes he was.

          • BearDown100393

            Based on what?

        • CanadaBear

          As long as Pace doesn’t start wearing granny glasses on a chain, I think the Bears will be OK.

    • Bear Instincts

      I don’t want him within 5 football fields of MT10 but I’m curious to know why it is “not happening”?

      • AlbertInTucson

        Scuttlebutt I heard says he wants to go to the Colts and Luck.

        • Bear Instincts

          good luck with that shoulder injury

          • AlbertInTucson

            True but, he also had Brissett in NE so maybe he thinks he can make THAT work, if need be.

      • BearDown100393

        Because Jeff has secret sources talking to him from the bottom of an empty beer can

      • ButtonShoes

        McDaniels will want roster control. That’s the rumor. And Pace has no intention of giving it up. Hence the “not happening.”

    • That Guy

      Smoke screen. Other teams are hunting for coaches, too. You disguise your interest in your front-runner so no one swoops in with a sweeter deal.

  • bearfaninde

    Matt Nagy should be on this list

  • CanadaBear

    Not trying to put too fine of a point on it but if they interview every offensive mind they can find, they will be sorting through seeds and stems by the time they get around to hiring somebody.

    • Scharfinator

      The eternal balancing act between finding the best weed and finding any weed at all…

      • CanadaBear

        In that regard, all I can say is life is good on Vancouver Island! That and edibles are the bomb!

  • Dis Guy Trublinsky

    Just listened to a reporter for the Philadelphia Inquirer that covers the Eagles on 670.

    Two important take aways.

    1.) He absolutely believes Flip is ready.

    2.) The Eagles owner, President, and GM jointly interviewed Pederson for the HC position, along with the other candidates. Go figure.

    • BearDown100393

      Eagles management >>> McCaskey Circus

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky

        Bears all time playoff win % is 48.5
        Eagles all time playoff win % is 47.5

        Both teams 1-1 in the Super Bowl.

        Bears last playoff win 2009.
        Eagles last playoff win 2008.

        • BearDown100393

          You cling to that…

          • Bear Instincts

            please say something positive about the upcoming season or the potential new HC. just say something positive

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            good luck with that. The whiny ass bitch is strong with him. He may be too far gone.

          • BearDown100393

            I will catch up to the rest here after 30 years of hard drinking and denial.

          • SC Dave

            I take it this is the numbered version of This user is blocked?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            yes

          • BearDown100393

            It will not include Hobo

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Bears all time win % 54.5
            Eagles all time win % 48.8

        • bearfaninde

          Eagles have never won SB

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            My bad guys. 0-2

  • CanadaBear
  • Bear Instincts

    Watching the Pace presser and he looked like he wanted to cry.

    • willbest

      The modern man?

      • AlbertInTucson

        It’s only fair.

        Watching the Bears in the Red Zone Sunday mad ME want to cry.

        • Sactowns#1

          Dear lord. Those 8 plays on the goal line, espescially the first 4, were maddening. Add to the mix that I bet the over.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            LOL. That sucks. They REALLY missed Zach Miller there.

          • BearDown100393

            He is done. Move forward.

          • SC Dave

            Did Shaheen play?

          • CanadaBear

            No. Missed the last 3 games.

          • SC Dave

            Given the talk about RZ fails, I’m glad to hear he was NOT in there.

            Punctured lung, maybe?

          • CanadaBear

            Not sure. Never know with Foxy. At some point it will come out. Whatever it was it must have been nasty.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            He did not. Still out with the chest injury on the touchdown catch from a few weeks prior.

    • BearDown100393

      He has to share his bedroom now with Phillips and McCaskey.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis
      • Scharfinator

        This motherfucker saying he gets given shit for being a Bears fan. You idiot, you work for them. Maybe being a fan is the problem.

  • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

    I have made all of the necessary calculations and have come to the conclusion that the new coach of the Chicago Bears is Pat Shurmur.

    • BearDown100393

      Might be correct

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      Will Luck ever be Luck again? That’s a huge piece to the Colts puzzle.

      • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

        was Luck ever the Luck everyone said he was?

        • BearDown100393

          It was really all luck

          • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

            and 6 games a year against the old AFC South

          • BearDown100393

            The Confederacy

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          I don’t think so. I’ve kind of held Luck against Harbaugh. He’s one of the biggest feathers in Harbaugh’s cap. And what’s he done?

          But now his shoulder is The Zach Miller of knees. So I’m just not sure Luck is a draw anymore. I’d rather take my chances with Stafford if the choice presented itself.

      • John F

        QB’s are never the same after a serious shoulder injury, just ask Jim McMahon

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Brees seems to be doing pretty good.

          • John F

            Outlier ……….

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            don’t say ‘never’

          • never say never!

          • John F

            I would never do that…….

    • BearDown100393

      McDaniels and Irsey deserve each other

  • Pretty Boy Assassin

    I’m good with Flip and Shurmur on this list. I could be convinced on Toub and Patricia…maybe Wilks.

    I picked Shurmur because we know he can make players successful by making adjustments to his system. He made the Vikings O look great with a guy who looked to be out of the NFL in previous stops. And he did it losing their hot young RB and #1ish/1A WR for a not insignificant amount of the year. That D helps ALOT, but we’ve seen lack of common sense on O with a top D before around here.

    Even more than hanging my hat on a guy, I’m more interested in who is hired after the HC. Any HC candidate better have a plan on competence on his staff on all sides of the ball. Dowell should not be retained. Rodgers should probably not be retained. They should try to keep Vic. But the staff is key. As bad as we like to say Nessman was, and he was bad, imagine if they had a top 10 D in 2013. We are having a very different conversation.

    A competent staff will play to Biscuit’s strengths which will lead to his development. A competent staff will know how to fix his shortcomings (footwork) and give him a system in which he can flourish. A competent staff will keep the Defense on its upward trajectory. A competent staff will fix the dumb penalties we see every Sunday. A competent staff will play, utilize correctly, and develop our young players.

    • John F

      “….but we’ve seen lack of common sense on O with a top D before around here”

      You just described (except for the Ditka years) the Chicago bears for the last 70+ years

  • Bear Instincts

    https://twitter.com/AaronLemingNFL/status/948248476432850944

    ESPN Stats & Info: Phil Emery leaves a Bears roster with the most players over the age of 30 with 17 and the fewest first-round picks with 5.

    • BearDown100393

      3 years ago

    • Pretty Boy Assassin

      Olin Kreutz posted yesterday the past several bears drafts as the reason they’re bad. He posted Pace’s last two first…it isn’t even close. Minus the Kevin White pick, there are key contributors all over his drafts. But we need elite talent in the top of the next draft, and I don’t care what the position is. If there is an elite player at 8 at ILB, you take him. CB? Take him. G? Take him. T? Even better, take him. RB? Take him. WR? S? DL? Take him.

      The only position not in play is QB. That’s it.

      • Bear Instincts

        so who do you pick of Barkley and EDGE and OT are still on the board at 8?

        • Pretty Boy Assassin

          Whoever is higher rated and whoever you think has a chance to be all pro. Tie goes to EDGE/OT due to limited lifespan of a RB.

          • willbest

            Any RB drafted in the top 10 has to be AP level, or the pick is a bust.

      • BearDown100393

        Olin should be the GM. He would scare that organization straight

  • Bear Instincts

    Is Flip getting looks as a HC because he made Wentz look good or because Wentz made him look good?

    Was Shurmur a good HC on a Brows team or was he a bad HC on a Browns team?

    • AlbertInTucson

      …chicken or the egg?

    • Pretty Boy Assassin

      Everyone is bad on a Browns team. Hoodie was bad on a Browns team.

  • Bear Instincts

    https://twitter.com/i/web/status/948256269592334336
    ok here’s my dilemma, Pace touts the idea of draft best player available
    – the Bears are at 8, the QBs fly off the board and Saquon Barkley is
    sitting there….what do you do?….Barkley, EDGE or OT?

    • ButtonShoes

      I might take him. The main reason Goff’s got success over in LA is that he has Gurley. Barkley could be that guy for Mitch in a way Jordan Howard isn’t.

      • Bear Instincts

        so you want a hydra offense?

        • ButtonShoes

          Wouldn’t be the worst thing. At least it would be an offense.

          • Bear Instincts

            lol…anything is better than firefox and birdcage

      • BearDown100393

        You mean Howard is the next Walter?

        • ButtonShoes

          Howard isn’t even the next Forte. He’s OK though.

          • BearDown100393

            Around here I was under the impression he was a GOAT.

          • ButtonShoes

            Well, to be able to be the GOAT, I’d expect him to at least be able to catch the ball. But he’s fine.

          • John F

            He’s one of the many perennial all-pro’s Pace has drafted, haven’t you heard?

          • BearDown100393

            Keep posting

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Where’d you read that? I’m probably his second biggest supporter here and I’ve never suggested that. But he is one of the half dozen or so best active running backs. Nor has anybody here suggested he’s anything approaching a GOAT.

            But when you have Howard, Cohen, and Cunningham, you don’t need to worry about the running back position heading into the draft.

          • John F

            Cohen is VERY limited due to his size. He can’t stay in as a single back in a passing situation because he can’t pick up blitzes. He can’t be a 25 carry-a-game guy. He is a scat-back specialist that can get maybe 10-12 quality touches a game.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            That’s understating his value by a wide margin.

          • John F

            He had 723 yards from scrimmage this year – that’s 83rd in the league. I think I stated his value just about right.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            In a John Fox offense with Mike Glennon for 4 games and a rookie QB the rest of the way out.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            and a total misuse of him for most of the games.

          • John F

            There is no “correct” way to use him. He is a generous 5’6″/179lbs. There is a reason guys like him don’t play much in the NFL, he is limited and will always be limited.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Cohen should be used like the Saints used Kamara. 8-10 rushing attempts and about 5-8 targets receiving a game.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Teams were game planning for him by the end of the year. Aside from the touches you just mentioned, just having him on the field as a decoy multiple times a game helps the offense.

          • John F

            When he was in the game, it was a passing play like 95% of the time. Not much of a decoy.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Yes. Let’s hold THAT against the next coaching staff.

          • John F

            We could have had Kamara if Pace hadn’t gotten suckered by the 49ers into giving up all those draft picks for Trubisky. There was nobody else who wanted that pick, and if they did, they weren’t going to pick Trubisky.

    • BearDown100393

      You draft the guy with the longest neck

    • Sactowns#1

      Well, you most certainly don’t draft a RB in the first round, let alone the top 10. Get lineman or a LB. That’s it.

      • BearDown100393

        Tell it to Pace

        • Bear Instincts

          we go EDGE or OT

          1-Brown – QB
          2-Giants – QB
          3-Colts – Saquon Barkley/ ILB/OL/EDGE
          4-Brown – Saquon Barkley
          5-Broncos – QB
          6-Jets – QB or EDGE (Arden Key)
          7-Bucs – EDGE (Bradley Chubb)/RB (Saquon Barkley)
          8-Bears – EDGE or OT

          • ButtonShoes

            Chubb’s the guy I really want. That man is a terror. He’s everything Leonard Floyd isn’t: big, scary, rough, strong, fast.

          • BearDown100393

            If he is brittle and from a school in the backwoods, you might get your wish

          • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

            it is crazy to think that 4 Qbs could go in the top 10 but I really think that it could happen this year.

          • CanadaBear

            Now that Goff and Wentz took huge steps this year, you know lots of teams are going to dive in after them.

    • Pretty Boy Assassin

      If Barkley grades as the best guy on your board, and you think he has all pro potential (I think he does), you take him.

      The 06 bears were good because they had all pros all over that roster. The bears need to start getting some.

      • Bear Instincts

        and pass up on a chance to improve the defense or protect MT10…that is a hard sell

        • Pretty Boy Assassin

          A big threat at RB will protect MT10.

          We’ve seen it year after year. Expect Pace to get some OL/OLB in FA, maybe a fatty for the DL, and overhaul the WR position. He hates going into the draft “needing” something.

          • Bear Instincts

            thats my whole point. even addressing his “needs in FA” who do you take if you have top OT/EDGE/Barkely sitting at 8. RB is not a need because we have Howard/Tarik. Floyd need someone opposite him on the EDGE and MT10 needs protection hence the OT. RB is a luxury pick like taking Benson when we did not need another RB and Rodgers was still on the board

          • ButtonShoes

            If they try to make a move to go up and get Chubb, that would be nice.

          • Pretty Boy Assassin

            If Benson was a staple of the offense for 8 years and an all-pro, it isn’t a luxury pick.

            My whole point is you value whoever you think will play at a high level for a long time over positions of need, excepting the QB because you already think you have one.

    • willbest

      Justify your snap counts in a Barkley, Howard, Cohen backfield. No? Okay so what are you getting when you trade Howard?

      Drafting an RB is a total luxury pick, and the only way to justify it is if he is Sweetness.

      • What if it’s a Zeke (w/out the primadonna?)

        Look at how the Cowyboy O and Dak struggled without Zeke.

        I like Howard. He might be the best 2 down HB in the league. But so was Alfred Morris once upon a time, and there’s a reason the Skins moved on from him, and Alf is now a backup.

        2 down backs (or pure 3rd down specialists) limit Os.

        Look at the playoff teams. They all feature HBs who can also catch.

        Bell, Hunt, Gurly, Murray/McKinnon (Cooks before he went down), Kamara, Dion Lewis, Freeman/Coleman, Fournette…

        Howard will never be able to stress a D. He can’t lineup like Forte, or run wheel routes, or create catching mismatches vs LBs.

        Probably not the best screen guy. Won’t take it to the house. If the blocking isn’t there, he’s getting 3 yds. He won’t do magic like Bell, Hunt, Kamara.

        So yes, if we get a chance at a truly elite HB, might have to do it.

        It would probably help Trub out most almost immediately.

        • willbest

          You are basically proving my point by listing a bunch of guys that are legit 3 down backs and weren’t taken in the first around. You also listed 1 guy that was taken in the first round and wasn’t impressive.

          Fournette 3.9 YPC, 75% catch rate. FFS Howard was 4.1 YPC and 72%. Oh and Howard did that in the Fox special RRP the whole season. Howard definitely has hands issues, but I think a large part of why people are soured on him as a 3 down option is because the offense as a whole sucked donkey balls, and he dropped the win in week 1 setting him up for a whole season of people noticing every drop he made.

          • Pretty sure all those HBs were at least 2nd rounders though. Not sure about Dion Lewis, but the Pats are outliers in just about everything.

            And we can include Derick Henry too.

            I don’t argue about trying to get value later at HB.

            To me. all draft position is about is % of success.

            Guys like Zeke and Gurley were almost guaranteed studs. Other guys like Bell, Kamura weren’t seen as such locks.

            But the rational still holds – most successful teams feature a catching HB not a 2 down bruiser.

            So if the top HB is there for us at #8, would have to take a looong look, esp if he’s clearly BPA.

            Other than that, then I say what I always say.

            Take a swing on a HB in the 4rth/5th and hope he can turn into Arian Fosters.

        • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

          watching Alvin Kamura run with the ball is like watching violence incarnate.

        • Bear Instincts

          more than an OT or a better defense with Floyd and Chubb or Key?
          Also consider that Pace has a thing for finding talent in the later rounds. He might get luck in the later ronds

        • CanadaBear

          Ever since you and I started bitching about Howard having hands of stone he started catching the ball. The last few games he was doing OK. A little stiff but he was catching the passes and making some moves. RB wouldn’t be much of a priority for me.

    • That Guy

      If… IF… you think you can trade Barkley or Howard to someone desperate for a RB, and get 1st-round talent in return, plus more picks, then go ahead.

      Otherwise, you don’t have enough RB snaps to get value out of Barkley. If he can catch and block as well as run, he’ll be on the field more than Howard, and when Howard is in defenses will know it’s a running play. Ultimately, trying to keep Barkley and Howard on the roster will limit what either can do.

      So you have to trade one. Which one do you trade, to whom, and for what?

      Given that the team needs another OLB, probably ILB, probably CB, OL, and WR more than another RB, Barkley isn’t worth the pick. He’s on the board at 8, pick up the phone and see who wants to be us and we can play 2017 SF with the pick.

    • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

      If the Bears drafted a running back while we continue to have white people on the team that dress for games then I’d be very disappointed.

  • Bear Instincts

    https://twitter.com/i/web/status/948253913966358528
    Brutally honest stuff from #Broncos GM John Elway, who says he did not feel like he gave Vance Joseph the best chance to succeed. “That’s on me.” Says he considered his options, chose to stick with Joseph moving forward.

  • Bear Instincts

    https://twitter.com/i/web/status/948260431000408064
    Cool — former #Bears WR @Dbrave_8 signed to #Chiefs p-squad. Former 7th-round pick had one regular-season catch, and it came back because of a penalty last year. Hope he can shake the Moonlight Graham thing.

    • That Guy

      Next stop, HoF!

    • BearDown100393

      Pro bowl
      Canton

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      BRAVERMAN!!!!

  • Pace will hire Steve Wilks, grossly over pay him. Everyone will groan and boo at Bulls’ games, then, a few months later, he’ll hire Del Rio.

    Pace M.O.

  • Bear Instincts

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/02/ha-ha-clinton-dix-questions-draft-and-develop-strategy-in-green-bay/

    Ha Ha Clinton-Dix questions draft-and-develop strategy in Green Bay

    “We go from our starters to basically [street] free agent players.

    and people thought the bears were cheap…now we know why GB sucks without Rodgers

    • willbest

      You would think that Rodgers and the general state of the NFCN would be a draw for players looking to compete for a SB. The problem is unless you like to hunt or fish or online game, there is dick all to do up there during the season.

      • CanadaBear

        Ice skating, sledding, snowmobiling, cross country skiing, snowshoeing, hiking, biking, etc.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          Oh I’m sure Erin is a fairly accomplished figure skater. And he’s probably got all the clothes and accessories for the rest.

          • CanadaBear

            This will make you laugh. About 10 years ago we’re at our regular hangout for wing Wednesday. The bartender was a young guy that was really funny (and a really nice guy). At some point he takes me into the cooler where all the kegs and lines are. They had a ton of beer on tap so there were lines everywhere. At some point I see an autographed picture of Brian Boitano (I like figure skating so I actually know who some of the skaters are/were). I go over to read the pic and it’s to the other bartender thanking him fore being such a huge fan. I start laughing and sure enough my friend got the pic signed for the other bartender just so he could fuck with him.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            That is fantastic! The lengths we’ll go to, just to fuck with our buddies.

            My best friend in college got a job at Ford straight out of school. He had done an internship there prior to his senior year. We split an apartment for a couple of years toward the end of school and just after graduation. So I got to know some of his coworkers from hitting the bars on the weekends. Just shooting the shit over beers one night, I find out there was like a gay and lesbian network/club, whatever you want to call it, at Ford. So I signed my buddy up for the newsletter through his coworkers. Next thing he knows, he’s getting the mailings, invites, casual drop bys at the desk during the work day. It was fantastic. And one of the first things he gets invited to? Yep. A figure skating watch party. Classic. What you need to understand, is that he was one of the most homophobic guys I’d ever met. So this was the top of the mountain for me. I still laugh to this day.

          • CanadaBear

            Funny stuff! I’ve got gay friends and don’t care about that stuff at all but it still makes me laugh when guys mess with each other about it.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Yeah I don’t really give a shit about that stuff either. As long as you’re not beating your spouse or putting cigarettes out on your kids, you’re generally fine by me.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            One of my roommates in college got blackout drunk at one of our parties, we stripped him down to his boxers and threw him in bed. He was the guy with no standards and would sleep with just about anything. He was a great wingman because he was more than willing to dive on a grenade when needed. The next day we convinced one of our other friends, who happened to be gay and was at the party, to strip down and climb in bed with him. Never laughed so hard in my life when he woke up screaming. We convinced him for a couple weeks that he got drunk and started flirting with the gay guy and took him to bed. After a couple weeks we had to tell him because he was getting dangerously depressed.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            You win! That is beautiful. Oh to have been there to see his face as the realization set in.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            He burst into tears when we finally told him. He was so relieved.

          • CanadaBear

            You guys were bad ass! The worst thing I’ve done is let my buddy hit on a tranny for a while when he was hammered. I was bombed too but at some point I took pity on him and told him. I took the tranny aside before I told my buddy. She wasn’t too happy about it but too bad, so sad.

        • willbest

          Hiking and biking, but that winter stuff doesn’t really get going until Jan which is playoff mode or Miami for those guys

          • CanadaBear

            If you think winter doesn’t start until Jan in GB, you haven’t been there in a looooooooooooong time.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          CURLING!!!!

          • willbest

            I feel like that is kept in the winter olympics just to give people like me the thought that if I really wanted to, I could get a gold in ice brushing.

          • John F

            Is that where you eat a lot of cheese curds in a short amount of time?

      • BearDown100393

        Just need a babysitter

    • John F

      Gotta disagree here. I think it is a smart strategy to only draft and not sign free agents. Here’s why – if a team signs a free agent from your team, you usually get a compensatory draft pick. If you sign free agents from another team, you forfeit a compensatory draft pick that might otherwise be coming to you because one of your players got taken away. So if you always draft and never sign free agents, you might be getting anywhere from 2 to 4 extra draft picks each year. Given the crapshoot that is the NFL draft, that gives you a LOT of room for error.

      Why do you think the Packers, Patriots, Steelers, etc. have 8 or 10 picks every year. It’s because they lose players to free agency and rarely sign free agents. Those teams aren’t necessarily better at drafting players, they just have more chances each year to get it right.

      • willbest

        FA isn’t all its cracked up to be. Sure there are rare cap casualties, but most the time if a team is willing to let a player go its because they know something. Sure there are some gems like Hicks, but you think the pats are happy about spending $13 million on Gilmore who has only 2 INT, 9 PDs and no FFs?

        I will say the one place where FA generally doesn’t burn you is in getting a player that isn’t NFL caliber even if they are under performing their contract. That I think separates Pace because he has a number of FA players that shouldn’t be on any roster. Cooper, Wheaton, Glennon.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky

        The Patriots sign as many free agents as anybody. Belichick is a mercenary when it comes to that. Last year they only signed 3 which is the outlier. Although they just added Harrison making it 4. The year before they signed 13. The year before that, 10. And so on. I got tired of googling and counting, but I wanted to nominally confirm what I thought was correct. They plug and play as much as anybody. And Belichick is REALLY good at it.

        Packers don’t sign much, and that’s what it looks like when Rodgers gets hurt.

        I don’t know anything about the Steelers roster moves.

        • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

          I love that they brought in Harrison to maul the QB. That’s his job…land on the QB and break him up.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            That dude is going to be playing with such a giant chip on his shoulder. I would not want to be a Steeler in that eventual matchup. He’s going to kill people.

          • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

            that is correct.

        • John F

          Sorry, I should have been more specific. The whole compensatory draft picks thing is extremely complicated (and I definitely don’t completely understand it). Here is some background:

          “Compensatory picks are based on the salary, playing time and
          postseason honors of the free agents each team lost during the previous
          offseason. All 32 NFL teams are allowed up to four compensatory picks, and
          they’re only awarded to clubs that signed fewer players than they lost
          via free agency. That does not include players cut, players released
          after signing the year before or players making the league minimum.”

          The issue with the teams I mentions isn’t the number of free agents they sign, it’s the type. If you are signing guys to league minimum deals or in other specific situations, you are not ding’d the same way than if you signed “stars”.

          One thing I do know is that many of the teams that are consistently successful are the ones that regularly receive compensatory picks and therefore have more chances at success in the draft.

          • John F

            Summary of Top 10 teams that received NFL compensatory draft picks (1994-2014):

            Baltimore Ravens 41
            Dallas Cowboys 33
            Green Bay Packers 33
            Philadelphia Eagles 30
            Tennessee Titans 30
            St. Louis Rams 30
            Pittsburgh Steelers 29
            New England Patriots 27
            Buffalo Bills 26
            New York Giants 23

            A few strange names on there but those teams probably got most of those picks in the 1990’s.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Pats getting up their on FAs. Signed Kenny Britt, Marty Bennett, Hoyer, Mike Gillislee, Rex Burkhead, Harrison, Lawrence Guy, Gilmore.

          They also trade a lot.

      • Irish Sweetness

        “I think it is a smart strategy to only draft and not sign free agents.”

        But thinking it doesn’t make it true John, because it’s obviously not. You need to get both right to win the Lombardi, and then you need to have less injuries than everyone else.

  • That Guy

    Rank Bears HC over the last 30 years. Use any standard you like. Me, I’m not going just wins/losses, but the record factors in. If a team had great/crappy personnel, the coach gets some credit for that, but the majority of credit goes to the GM.

    That said, the rankings look like this:

    1. Ditka (overrated, to be sure, and his post Superb Owl teams got worse and worse, but he’s still better than average)
    2. Lovie (couldn’t put together an offense to save his life, relied on the Tampa 2 way too long, was made to look good by a freak of nature in Urlacher, but still, better than average)
    3. Jauron (hamstrung by a lack of offensive talent, particularly at QB)
    4. Fox (re-built the team from the ground up, but couldn’t take the next step… to mediocrity)
    5. Wanny (pure shit the way he let the team unravel)
    6. Trestman (nothing more needs be said)

    I submit this ranking to suggest that a decent hire doesn’t have to do a whole lot to be considered a “good” Bears coach. Fox was a safe hire, and despite under-performing, he was pretty much the average for the last 30 years of Bears coaches.

    Hire a guy who develops Trubs and has a decent offensive scheme while keeping the defense decent, and we’re looking at (sadly) a very good Bears coach.

    *You’ll note I didn’t dip into the pre-Ditka era of Bears coaching failure. Intentional, because it was a different game back then, but also because I’m not old enough to remember those mopes.

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      Wanny got the best he could out of crap talent. His teams were more competitive than they should have been in a lot of games.

      Having said that, if you play prevent defense for 60 minutes a game you’re going to lose most of your games.

    • John F

      Pardee was good (1975-1977), went to the playoffs in 1977 as a wildcard (when there were only 3 division winners and 1 wildcard per conference) and got blasted by the Cowboys. Also, the 1979 Bears wildcard appearance was probably due to him to a certain extent (the actual coach – Armstrong – was pretty bad).

  • Bear Instincts

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/02/john-defilippo-set-for-bears-cardinals-interviews/
    Flip will interview for the Cardinals and Bears head coaching openings on Friday and Saturday in Philadelphia.

    • BearDown100393

      Flip goes to Arizona.

    • AlbertInTucson

      It’s in been in the mid 70s in Phoenix since before Christmas and will be at least thru this weekend.

      On the plus side:

      The Cardinals play indoors.

      They have David Johnson and he is coming back from a wrist injury (as opposed to a knee injury).

      Larry Fitzgerald is still a most excellent receiver.

      Their Defense is pretty good.

      On the other hand:

      The Cardinals really need a QB.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Fitzy is unbelievable!

        Could we palm Glennon off on them? They’re looking for more red hair.

  • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

    I don’t envy the coaches that have to decide who to pick in this draft. We need help all over the damn place.
    I want a real WR but we need an OL more.
    I want an edge rusher but I’m sick of our below average DBs.
    I want a violent leader on the field that guys want to impress.
    Just don’t overthink the pick. if you are at 8 and a guy is there that tore the college game to pieces you have to get him even if he’s considered a reach for that spot. We need to stop drafting by some old book and look at the Jags who, in 2 seasons created a gangster ass defense of predators who singlehandedly got them to the playoffs.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      I’d roll with a new OL out of the draft and the best two FA wide receivers I can get I think.

      I’ve been torn between OL and LB. Last few days I’m feeling like OL. The defense isn’t on life support. The offense is. Fix that first.

      And Pace has already met with Fuller. I think he’s coming back.

      • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

        I agree. I think my whole mindset about WR’s has changed. I wouldn’t even draft them anymore. Just go into a season knowing that you’re going to overpay for proven vets that know how to act like professionals.
        If you take WR and RB off of the draft board completely you can just focus on building insane trenches through the draft.

        • BearDown100393

          If it is that easy why do ours suck for the past 2 years?

          • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

            Because we ignored it. We didn’t draft well at WR and we didn’t hit on any late rounders and we didn’t bring in any FA talent worth anything except for Wright (who we barely threw to) and Inman who we brought in late in the season.
            You have to spend money. Mitch is probably a better selling point than Glennon for a FA.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Bey is on the Steelers? (checks)

          You are correct, he had 2 catches this year for 47 yards. He was only targeted three times so that’s impressive.

          Agreed on drafting receivers – why babysit?

    • BerwynBomber

      So are you officially back from your four month hiatus in MIA?

      • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

        Tanned and ready to go.

    • I think we can all agree though that pass rusher pretty much improves everything else on D.

      And without Floyd or a worn down Hicks, this D will get shredded.

      At #8 though, we no longer are in play for the top edge guy.
      Most likely be looking at some “tweener” dude with risk (more of a Beasly than Clowney type).

      I would love Oline as well.

      Same rational helps. Helps entire O.

      I don’t know about WR at 8 though.

      The top WR looks like Knox not some 6’4 230 4.3 freak.

      I don’t know what’s going on with CB, but the new coach might implement a new D in which they’re not as important (say a zone heavy scheme)

      The thing about sucking, def have plenty of options in the draft.

      • evantonio

        I admittedly know little-to-nothing about this year’s crop, but aren’t 5 of the 8 teams in front of us rumored to be QB hunting in the draft? If that’s the case, there’s a small chance we could get an elite edge rusher, no?

        • The QB rush will push talent down the board, no doubt.

          But premier Edge/LTs almost always go top 5.

          I’ll have to check out the prospects more, but from what I’m reading, Chub is a top 5 Edge and Connor Williams a premier OT.

          I think those guys will be gone b4 our pick, but that might mean the top CB, HB and DT falls in our lap, so we’re not in bad position, draft wise.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Losing one more game would have had us picking #4!

          • evantonio

            Damn the AFC North!

    • willbest

      The Jags bought their D as much as drafted it. Sure Yannick Ngakoue, Jack, Donte Fowler, Ramsey, but they went and spent big money on Calis Campbell, Malik Jackson, AJ Bouye, Church and traded for Marcell Dareus

      • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

        and that my friend….is exactly what we should do.

        • willbest

          Good who is the Campell, Jackson, Bouye equivalents available this FA?

          • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

            That is for Ryan Pace to figure out, not me. I’m merely a fan of the concept.

            Draft athletic freaks with attitudes on D, pay for badass proven vets and let them feed off of each others energy. Jacksonville has now made themselves a destination for FA’s for gods sake.

          • willbest

            If it was so simple, then somebody besides Elway would have successfully done it in the last 20 years

          • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

            it really is that simple.
            Dallas made a commitment to building their O line into a top flight group like in the 90’s and did it through a laser like focus.
            The Jags knew that D was the only way to overcome the inconsistent QB play and past offensive struggles while they brought in better WR’s and RB’s.
            It’s not easy but it’s definitely simple.

            When the FA list comes out we can put together a mocha man meat shopping list and then Pace simply has to effectively pick up 2 legit players from this draft. 3 would be ideal but that’s not historically what the bears do well so let’s just say 2.

          • BearDown100393

            Dallas also missed the playoffs

          • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

            they lost a ton of good players to free agency, 3 OL and at least 4 guys on D….and Zeke is a woman beater so he missed some games as well….oh and Dez Bryant’s deal with the devil expired.

          • evantonio

            2015: Goldman, Amos
            2016: Floyd, Whitehair, Howard
            2017: Tru, Cohen, Jackson, Shaheen (jury still out)

            Assuming Shaheen pans out, Pace is going +1 on legit players every single draft. Not superstars, but legit starters who aren’t Brandon Hardin or Chicken Dinner. That means we can expect 5 ballers coming out of April’s harvest.

            19-0, here we come.

          • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

            I’m going to need you to edit Amos out of this thread. We don’t need Al Afalava on our team, we need a Jalen Ramsey. We need a BALLER ass gangster.

          • CanadaBear

            Amos at least hits people. He’s at least avg with some pop. No doubt an upgrade would be welcomed but for the first time in years the Beloved had a pair of competent safeties.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            yes it’s been years since Wright and Conte were around

          • Irish Sweetness

            Amos is a baller.

          • evantonio

            Amos is a legit starter. He’s not a great one. He may not even be a good one. But he’s certainly more legit than Affy was, and I’d happier with him back there than Conte. That said, he can/should be upgraded.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Aha, but without Zeke they couldn’t really run it!

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            it also helped that they had something like $120 mill in cap space to work with one year.

          • Irish Sweetness
        • John F

          We tried to “buy” guys last year, they took less money to go elsewhere because of our dumpster-fire front office …………

      • Irish Sweetness

        Absolutely bought it.

    • BearDown100393

      Well they got Tom Coughlin running the show.

      And we got Ted Phillips.

    • Irish Sweetness

      1. What’s a ‘real ‘WR?

      2. Eddie Jackson, Amos, Fuller, Prince. Below average? (maybe statistically they are though).

  • BerwynBomber

    Only word of caution about Flip is beware the Wentz factor.

    Wentz, IMO, is a transformative talent — or at least was before his ACL tear. He looked every bit ready to ascend to the Brady/Rodgers/Brees/Wilson elite sphere. And he was an extremely quick study … just as those guys were.

    Flip might have had a huge part in his development. Flip might be the next Bill Walsh.

    But to me the safer bets are trusting the dudes that turned the Cousins, A. Smiths, Goffs and Keenums into something.

    • BearDown100393

      Maybe.
      Not always linear in development.

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      Who turned Alex Smith into a two time Pro-Bowler? Was it Harbaugh, the QB coach, OC, or Alex Smith himself?

      • BearDown100393

        The Pro Bowl thing is bit over played

        • KentuckyBearsFan

          sure. but we he went from being a bust to one of the most reliable QBs in the league.

          • Irish Sweetness

            And how much of that is down to his elite OL ?

        • Irish Sweetness

          I still contend that at one point he was the worst starting QB in the NFL (Smith).

    • carlito

      You are wrong because coaching brings what a great player has to light along with preparation dedication and discipline, very few have all of this and sometimes a rare talent comes along with all of this, there are varables to this but this is the basis of it

      • Elizabeth

        Goog-l-e is paying 97$ per h-o-ur,w-i-th we-e-kly payouts.Y-o-u can also ava-i-l this.
        On tuesday I got a brand new Land Rover Range Rover f-r-om having earned $11752 this last four weeks..wi-t-h-out any doubt it’s the most-comfortable job I have ever do-n-e .. It s-o-unds unbelievable but you wont f-o-rgive yourself if you don’t check it
        !gj182d:
        >>>>> http://GoogleNetJobsMoneyWorkFromHome/more/cash AYAYAYAYALLAYAYAYZAAAYAYAYAYADDDDDATYAGBAYAYAYAYAYAYA:::::!gj182lhuh

  • BearDown100393

    Jeff wants another pass rusher.
    I guess Leonard Floyd didnt stop the bleeding.

    • John F

      I don’t get it, isn’t Floyd already in the HOF?!?

      • BearDown100393

        This

        • evantonio

          Let’s say Floyd had 16 sacks his rookie year and 19 sacks this past season. Wouldn’t it make him and the rest of the defense that much better if we paired him with another elite edge rusher?

          Note: This isn’t me saying we should go edge rusher with our first pick. I just don’t understand why you guys are shitting over the thought as if opposing QBs are in danger every single time they drop back against us.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            but we could have another RB. SMH.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Right. Who needs those?

            Go look up your WR stats for this season just gone. Now go look at the RBs.

            RBs are king. Our RB can’t run more than 30 yards, and if he goes down we have NO running game.

          • John F

            I would also like to pretend that our rookie QB wasn’t one of the statistically worst in the NFL this season, but I have to deal with reality ……..

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Unlike all of the other rookie QBs before him that aren’t amongst “the statistically worst in the NFL”?

          • AlbertInTucson

            Throwing to the worst corps of wideouts in the league.

          • John F

            I will take a sip of the Trubisky Kool-Aid if I ever see him actually win a game against a division opponent due to his play.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Noted.

          • Irish Sweetness

            But wouldn’t it be kind of sad to be the last one in the boat?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Compare him to Troy Aikman.

          • evantonio

            Sorry. I’m a little dense. We were pooping on the idea of another edge rusher and you started talking about Quarterbacks. Are you saying we should draft a QB? Is that what you’re getting at? Would that help give us a more consistent pass rush?

          • BearDown100393

            Go ask Fangio why he does not pass rush more.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He has a plan.

          • evantonio

            I just got off the phone with Vic. He appreciated the question, and after some back-and-forth about the intricacies of running the 3-4, he said, “I needed one more guy besides Lenny.”

    • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

      we need one of those drafts like the Jags had in 2016.
      2016
      1. Jalen Ramsey S
      2. Myles Jack LB/S
      3. Yannick Ngakoue DE (3rd rounder with 20sacks in 2 years and 10 FF’s.)
      2015
      1. Dante Fowler Jr DE
      Telvin Smith LB 5th Round of 2014 Draft (badass)
      Malik Jackson (free agent) 2016
      AJ Bouye (free agent) 2016
      Calais Campbell (free agent)
      They built this crazy D in about 2 years total.
      They play like complete fucking psychos.

      I saw Ngakoue hit a Qb from the blind side by jumping over a blocker and attaching himself to the QB’s head like a fucking mountain lion while a D lineman took the quarterbacks legs out almost snapping the dudes knee in two pieces. That is what I want my D to look like. Crazy athletic lunatics running around and bringing the pain to the other team win or lose.

      • Is pacebot smart enough, or aggressive enough, to create that type off-season?

        We all wanted Bouye this off-season.

        Instead, we got Prince and Cooper, and it is quite possible neither are here next yr, nor even Fuller.

        • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

          FA’s want money but they also want the culture and attitude of winning and balling out. Jacksonville created their own momentum and now they can have their pick of the FA class as long as they pay up.

        • CanadaBear

          I read where Pace offered Bouye a contract and he went elsewhere for slightly less money. As long as Foxy was here I wasn’t too concerned about going through the cut-out bin as long as they were offering decent contracts to the good FA’s. Near as I can tell Pace was pursuing good FA’s and making decent offers but to no avail. Who knows? I can see why he didn’t want to get his salary structure too far out of whack with Weekend @ Bernie’s still here. Hopefully Pace will sign a couple of blue chip/difference makers in FA (along with a bunch of others, I’m sure).

      • Irish Sweetness

        Pace didn’t go near Calais. Why Not? Did he lead the league in sacks this year?

        He has NO nouse in free agency.

    • evantonio

      Would it be the worst thing to:

      1. Use Floyd as a pass rusher instead of a coverage guy
      2. Pair him with a badass who’s built to get after the QB

      • BearDown100393

        A lot of positions need tending

        • John F

          CB (2), OLB, DT, DE, WR (3), TE, RT, LG

          Other than that we are GOOD to go !!!!!!!!!

          • BearDown100393

            Light this candle

    • Irish Sweetness

      Or y’know …. we could just blitz the QB … with someone else.

  • John F

    Here’s an interesting factoid:

    One of the biggest draft busts of all time was JaMarcus Russel of the Raiders. He was the number one overall pick in the 2007 draft. He only started one game in 2007, started 15 games in 2008, but started only 9 games in 2009, and was out of the league the next year.

    His 2008 stat line: 198 comp on 368 att for 2,423 yards with 13 td’s and 8 int’s. Not awesome but pretty impressive for someone who eventually totally flamed out.

    His quarterbacks coach in 2008: John DeFillipo

    • BearDown100393

      Those practice sessions throwing the ball into the stands from the 50 on his knees paid off

      • John F

        Just pointing out that DeFillipo made Russell a somewhat competent QB.

        That is bordering on a coaching miracle…….

        • BearDown100393

          Why has he not been promoted?

        • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

          He was a drug addict. That’s why he flamed out. He drank Codeine all day every day.

          • John F

            Doesn’t making a drug addict a competent NFL QB kinda make my point?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Nice work if you can get it!

  • BuddhaJoe

    I want Fangio but doubt it’ll happen. They’ll probably hire fuckin McDaniels.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Conventional wisdom has McD going to Indy.

      • evantonio

        I thought conventional wisdom had Toub going to Indy due to connections to Mr. Ballard?

        • BearDown100393

          Conventional wisdom mandates there is no conventional wisdom.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Speaking of connections.

          “Ben McDaniels (born June 6, 1980) is an American football coach and former player. He is currently the offensive quality control coach for the Chicago Bears, a position he assumed in 2016.”

          He is the Josh McDaniels brother.

          “Offensive Quality Control Coach.”

          Didn’t see much quality control in the red zone Sunday.

    • Despite Jeff refraining that Bears are a top draw, I don’t think we’ll be able to land the top HC candidates.

      Gruden will likely go with Bucs or Raiders
      McDaniels will go else where.

      Might be a blessing in disguise.

      I’d prefer Flip over those guys.

      The intriguing candidates are Shurmur and Toub.

      Shurmur for reasons already pointed out. Toub cuz he just seems ready.

      But teams continually avoid Toub for HC interviews every yr (like with Fangio)

      It’s like that Seinfeld episode when everyone is thanking Jerry for being with a girl, and he starts wondering what the hell is wrong with her.

      • BuddhaJoe

        Jeff’s always like that, although I’d bet it’s more appealing than your average Score caller thinks.

        Think you’re right about it being a blessing though. I’d be ok with Shurmer and want nothing to do with Gruden or McDouche.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          I’ve listened to the Score more the last few days than i have in years. Lots of time devoted to the coaching hire obviously. Almost to a man, the out of town reporters, NFL analysts, local experts, etc. stated that the Bears job at the moment, is a pretty popular one. Far more so than three years ago. Specifically so, because Trubisky appears to have the goods, the defense has it’s sea legs back, the running back room is really good, and Pace just got an extension. Apparently that extension, and the stability it affords, is viewed as a big plus to any incoming coach, unless that coach has GM powers in his demands. If you listen to the Score historically, you know their favorite thing to do is bash the Bears. So it’s meaningful, that most of the coverage has been positive with regard to the look from the outside-in.

          • CanadaBear

            Give Fox credit for taking the job knowing it was a tear down/rebuild. Not throwing a pity party for him because he got paid really well and will for one more year. However, he knew what had to be done and donned the Hazmat suit and removed some toxic waste. Along with getting stuck with Cutler for 2 years and then MG/MT. Big ask on the Bears part to expect better results. Glad they did.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            This, to me, was always part of the plan.

          • CanadaBear

            Totally agree but everyone thought there would be a lot more wins. If the injury tsunami subsides next year maybe Fox/staff was the problem. Who knows?

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            I thought they’d be 8-8 this year. So yeah, I thought they’d win more for sure. You called 5 wins though if memory serves. Cagey old Canadian you.

          • CanadaBear

            Blind squirrel. Gotta say Butch and I were both on the fire Foxy band wagon last year. To me he was like the Cutler of HC’s with even worse luck than Cutler!

          • BerwynBomber

            Also helps that Rodgers is 35 and coming off a serious throwing shoulder injury.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Hadn’t thought of that but it sure makes sense.

            I wonder when they’ll start to consider his replacement in the draft.

  • BearDown100393

    The Mouse ranked Puppet’s Bears 28th in NFL against hardest rated schedule.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis
    • BearDown100393

      Arizona needs a Giraffe

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        they are probably in line to trade up to get a QB.

        • BearDown100393

          They need one now

  • Sactowns#1

    How in the hell do the Bungles justify signing their HC to another 2 years?!

    • BearDown100393

      Awesome!

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Lewis has pics of the owner snorting coke off a transvestite hooker.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Ownership Choices:

      Mike Brown or The McCaskeys?

      As always, DEATH is not an option.

    • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

      I think someone needs to explain the Rooney rule to the Bengals. I think they may have misinterpreted it.

      Bengals staffer: “oh, we thought it meant that our coach had to be black no matter how shitty the team continues to be….our bad.”

      • CanadaBear

        Typical Bengals fan.

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        The Rooney rule no longer applies since Andy died.

        Lewis still has a career winning record – just barely….but is 0-7 in the postseason.

        It’s Cincinnati. Could be worse. Does anybody better really want to coach that team?

    • willbest

      I think you need to understand the uniqueness of the Bengals. Mike Brown is the son of Paul Brown, so he is a you didn’t build that owner which usually makes a person more risk adverse. Lewis is the ultimate coach in that regard as he usually puts in at least a .500 performance even though he is 0-7 in the playoffs. Prior to Lewis the Browns were a shit show after Paul died.

      Next up the Bengals run GM by committee more or less with Lewis being a key component of that. Lastly, teams expect to pay the coach to go fishing the last year of the contract these days, so the 2-year extension is really just 1 year with team option to make you work the second year.

      The Bengals might be looking at their draft position, their odds of snagging a QB talent to replace Dalton, and their shot at getting a quality HC in a weak field (making it a sellers market) and opted to stay the course another year and check back next season.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky

        The weak coaching class makes no sense. Any coordinator, or any position coach, from any team can be interviewed for any HC position. That never changes. Any coach from outside the NFL can be interviewed at any time.

        There is no such thing as a coaching class, anybody in football, other than a current HC, could realistically be considered available.

        If you want to make the argument that coordinators that would be required to make a lateral move aren’t available, I get that. But not HCs.

        Beyond that, it’s a freakin crap shoot as to whether any of them will be any good. So to say a class is weak, if there is even a class, makes no sense. We have no idea. It’s even dicier than the draft. Other than retreads, which nobody wants at the moment beyond Gruden, they’ve never done it before.

        • willbest

          That is like saying the president of the US can be anybody over 35 who was born on US soil that hasn’t already been a president for 2 terms. Its true, but not useful.

          Its a sprint to hire a HC, you got to shrink your field to a manageable number and the way it has been historically done is to figure out which coordinators are getting the most from the talent they have, or finding a reason that a former coordinator/HC didn’t get a fair shake.

          This is why people were hesitant about Gase or McDaniels or whoever is coaching Drew Brees. Its also why there is a lot of interest in Shurmer since Keenum has been garbage before this year.

          So when we say its a weak coaching class what we mean is, there aren’t a lot of assistant coaches that are excelling at their current job to even warrant considering them for promotion. Meanwhile, there are a lot of teams thirsty for competent head coaches.

          • BearDown100393

            Developing a player and coaching a team are not the same

          • willbest

            What the Bears need to do is throw money at Phil Jackson then.

            The problem is you don’t get to find that out about a coach until they are on the job. You could say College HC show it, but then college HC have to build their own team, and don’t always have the same resources. Like In FSU the HC can get the police to ignore rape allegations, while Baylor has an excessive number of drunk white coeds.

          • John F

            Jeez, I should have gone to Baylor for college then ………

          • willbest
          • BearDown100393

            Pesky coeds

    • BuddhaJoe

      They’re too scared. 0-7 in the playoffs is still way better than what they were before Lewis showed up.

  • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0
    • CanadaBear

      If it looks like an asshole, walks like an asshole and talks like an asshole …

  • AlbertInTucson

    Per PFT:

    Loins GM, Bob Quinn, was just WAITING for Jim Caldwell not to make the playoffs so he could send him packing.

    Caldwell was a holdover from the previous GM, Martin Mayhew.

    Prior to becoming the Loins GM in 2016, , Quinn spent 16 years in player personnel and scouting in the Patriots organization

    Figures he would like McDaniels or Patricia as his HC.

    • willbest

      I wouldn’t mind if the Bears interviewed Caldwell. Though he wouldn’t be my first choice for HC. I except him to land a HC job either this year or next year.

  • willbest

    I wonder how much of Ted Thompson going was Aaron Rodgers saying he wouldn’t negotiate his new contract if Ted was the GM.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Rodgers is under contract thru 2019. By that time he will be 36-37 years old why negotiate with him? see if he has still gotten the injury bug by then. If not tag him. I honestly don’t see him lasting to 40.

      • willbest

        Because Rodgers would be better off holding out than play for $21 million when he could make $27 million.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          If I were GM, let him hold out. That goes for any player. They signed a contract.

          • willbest

            If the players want fully guaranteed contracts like the other sports, they are going to need an Aaron Rodgers to do it.

    • John F

      I can only hope the Packers are going to go down the free agent road to significantly “build” their team. This is what the Bears have done for the last 15 years and it is an un-winable game.

    • BearDown100393

      Erin will be repping Tampex then

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    New thread.

  • Tortured Bear fan

    call me crazy but I’m still rooting for Jim Bob Cooter as HC

    • Sactowns#1

      NO! A silly name does not mean a good HC pick.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Interesting. The voters have no interest in defensive dominance.

  • Elizabeth

    Goog-l-e is paying 97$ per h-o-ur,w-i-th we-e-kly payouts.Y-o-u can also ava-i-l this.
    On tuesday I got a brand new Land Rover Range Rover f-r-om having earned $11752 this last four weeks..wi-t-h-out any doubt it’s the most-comfortable job I have ever do-n-e .. It s-o-unds unbelievable but you wont f-o-rgive yourself if you don’t check it
    !gj182d:
    >>>>> http://GoogleNetJobsMoneyWorkFromHome/more/cash AYAYAYAYALLAYAYAYZAAAYAYAYAYADDDDDATYAGBAYAYAYAYAYAYA:::::!gj182lhu

© Da' Bears Blog