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What to Watch for At 2017 Combine

| March 1st, 2017

The NFL’s annual meat market kicks off this week and here are a few things to watch for:

The Quarterbacks

In case you haven’t noticed around here, this off-season is about one thing: finding a quarterback. This week is going to be the Bears first real chance to sit down and talk football with the top four guys: Deshaun Watson, DeShone Kizer, Mitch Trubisky and Pat Mahomes.

The Bears know who Brian Hoyer is, have a good feeling about Jimmy Garoppolo and are at least relatively familiar with all of the other veteran options. Their pro personnel department has done their work. They don’t know the quarterbacks in the draft simply because they haven’t had the opportunity to study them beyond their game tape.

Does Watson have enough meat on his bones? What does Kizer attribute his inconsistency to? Is Trubisky really short?  Does Mahomes have any clue when it comes to reading coverage? These are some of the questions the Bears need to ask.

The most important part is going to be the interview process. The Bears need to find out what makes these guys tick. They won’t publicly broadcast that information, but we’ll hear the buzz. The Bears could fall in love with a quarterback here and that could change everything.

Length Is Still King

Two popular guys that have been mocked to the Bears just might not fit their standard when it comes to length.

I introduced this before the combine last year and, guess what? It held true. The Bears want guys who have long arms. Since John Fox was with the Broncos and Vic Fangio was with the 49ers, they have not drafted a single defensive lineman or pass rusher who had arms shorter than 33 inches. With last year’s additions of Lenny Floyd and Jonathan Bullard, the list grew to 15.

This is said to be a deep group of pass rushers and teams always need pass rushers. Is Jonathan Allen an option at three? What about Solomon Thomas? Well, we’ll find out more this week.

Replacing Mike Brown

By all accounts, this year’s safety class is strong and the Bears might finally be able to replace Mike Brown. Before coming to Chicago, Pace / Fox / Fangio were all with teams that invested heavily at the safety position. With that in mind, I’d say drafting a safety with the third overall pick is a legitimate possibility.

Jamal Adams of LSU is the consensus top safety and has been compared to Eric Berry. His ball skills on tape didn’t look to be anything special — certainly not worth the third pick — but the Bears will have a chance to see him go through drills, check his hands and see how athletic he is.

The consensus opinion on Jabrill Peppers seems to have dropped big time since the college season ended. The general thinking is that he’s closer to being an undersized linebacker than an oversized safety, but teams will get to see how well he moves and talk to him to see if he actually knows what he’s doing in coverage.

Malik Hooker might have been my favorite safety in the draft but having two surgeries after the season guaranteed he won’t go in the top-five. But the medical evaluation on Hooker could be crucial. Just last year, Myles Jack was a guy many thought was the best player in the draft, but he dropped to the second round.

Another name to watch at the safety position is Eddie Jackson. Jackson would be considered among the best safeties in the draft if not for a broken leg suffered late in the year. It’s unknown if he’ll be able to participate in the combine, but if his leg checks out, he could be a strong option for the Bears in the second round.

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  • Sauron’s right eyeball

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  • SC Dave

    Does anyone watch that crap? *yawn* Even *golf* would be less a waste of time.

    • CanadaBear

      Not a fan of the underwear olympics? I hate golf but I would watch bowling before the UO.

    • MB30SD

      combine’s great… the website after at least.

      http://www.nfl.com/combine

    • Big Mike

      Scouts only go there to talk to guys and network for their next job. I’ve attended some college level recruiting combines and it was interesting because I saw how some guys from my area who just dominated the competition in every aspect of the game stack up with other top level recruits. I was proud of my guys, but stunned at the talent level.

  • Sahr Gborie

    who wants to sell the #3 pick? what would you accept for the #3 pick?

    • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

      You grab Lattimore at 3, a true blanket corner.

      You then position to see if you can get Mahomes in Rnd 2. Mahomes started being predicted at Rnd 3 but a combine performance could tack onto savvy scouting he’s now late to even mid 1st.

    • Big Mike

      it would have to be a top 10 pick plus a 2nd. If someone gets stupid you get a top ten and their next year first rounder. But at 3 I trust Pace to get an IMPACT player. Love Jamal Adams at three. Draft is deep in the secondary. Might be able to pick up another starter in the secondary.

      I believe the Bears will fill QB during FA.

      • Sahr Gborie

        (#6)Jets(need QB &RB) & (#10)Bills(need QB) & (#11)Saints (defense & QB) look like the best trade partners. I’m not too excited by FA QB as a long term started. But i would be OK with a place holder for a year or 2

        • leftcoastdave

          The perfect scenario would be a trade to the Jets to add a second, then a trade to the Bills or the Aints for another and keep doing that until there are no more buyers or your target S or CB is sitting there where you want him. I don’t see the Bills giving up any picks but we shall see. The other question is whether there any teams with a player to trade in addition to a pick, but I have not identified any teams with a surplus of DB’s or WR’s. Might be a TE out there, who knows?

          • Big Mike

            Unfortunately the NFL has 31 other teams who also watched the movie Draft Day.

          • leftcoastdave

            Not to mention what people saw happen last year. The GM’s all know how the game is played and Cleveland was able to play it like a fiddle last year.

          • willbest

            But its Cleveland so they didn’t do anything with it.

          • Johnnywad

            They remind me of that early iPad commercial. The old man gets an iPad from his kids and uses it as a cutting board.

          • Sahr Gborie

            Knowing how the game is played will not stop them some GM’s/Coaches because they are egotistical and think they can get the best out of a player. They want to be known as the one who fixed player A when no one else could or they found the next TOM BRADY. That means they will risk it all. Lets hope some that stupid this year wants to trade with us!

          • Maybe. But I think CLE is looking at Wentz and kicking themselves a bit.

        • Big Mike

          Jimmy G.  Could be a stud.  Could be a dud.  Draft class QBs this year are blah
          Mike

          • MB30SD

            Mike…. out.

            (drops mic stares at the crowd with a blank expression, then turns and walks off slowly)

          • Big Mike

            Preach…

            The eternal challenge is doing what’s right in the long haul, vs what helps next year. Whoever they go with at QB next year is going to be tossing to the JV unless they do a few big things at WR/TE. I think most fail to grasp the concept that 2 B WRs is not anywhere even close to being as good an A and a C player. Julio Jones and the castoffs from last year, is a better WR corp than 2 B Wide Receivers. Garcon, Meredith and White are not scaring anyone. So new QB starts out with nothing. Does a rookie belong in that position. What they do at WR/TE should determine what they will do at QB and visa versa. Dumping Alshon tells me they are going FA. Unless Pace is as dumb as Emery and he’s going to toss a rookie to the wolves to see if he can challenge Emery for worst GM ever.

          • CanadaBear

            Gotta agree. I keep seeing Hoyer, draft pick, Shaw, Barkley in camp with the draft pick the least likely to start.

          • Johnnywad

            Somebody is going to have to explain to me why Barkley even gets a mention. He had a couple uninspiring at best games without major catastrophe, followed by a few Hindenburg disaster level games to close out his season.

            He’s turrible.

          • willbest

            He threw the ball with some accuracy more than 10 yards down the field. Also, he was only sacked like twice. So if you can convince him to throw it away instead of force the throw you might be able to clean up those turnovers.

            You don’t want him as your QB1, but he wouldn’t be a bad backup.

          • Johnnywad

            Man. I saw enough that I don’t even want him on the practice squad. He looked broken in the head at the end of the season.

          • willbest

            Maybe he was playing with a concussion owing to us not having any other options.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            but we had Fale… oh nevermind.

          • Agreed. Looked like Cargo Jr.

            Rather go with another flier like Shaw over Barkley, or even, yes, Manziel or RG3 as that QB3.

          • CanadaBear

            I’m not banging the drum for any of them. That’s just what I see. The tiny sample of Shaw looked the most promising of the 3 vets but none of them thrill me any. I definitely see a draft pick on the QB roster, just not starting.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            Shaw is perpetually broken.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            Fuck Hoyer!

          • Sahr Gborie

            Emery for worst GM ever. – PREACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            You are spot on that we need to fix TE/WR…the whole offense. I’m open to a bridge QB (Cutler/Kap or who ever) for a year or 2 while we build the DEFENSE & OFFENSE so that when a rookie QB comes in their mistakes/growing pains will be masked by seasoned players.

          • Sahr Gborie

            Would you rather a home grown dud for Pick#3 or New England’s dud for draft capital + money + knowing you have now joined the list of teams that New England fleeced?

          • willbest

            I think I would be far more optimistic about G if it was pretty much anybody but New England. They absolutely get better in the next 3 years, and you may or may not get a starting QB.

          • Big Mike

            J.G.’s not a dud. There are reports floating now that Belichick won’t trade him. Could be pre FA maneuvering to jack up his price. I’d look at the player and take into consideration why NE would be letting him go. He’s a FA after next year. They like their 3rd string guy. It’s not like don’t like J.G. The QB position stands alone as the only position you do whatever you have to, to get the guy you like.

          • Sahr Gborie

            Nothing but luv for you Mike but I thinks DRAFT PICK + SIGNING HIM is too much. I would rather take my chance’s with a draft QB I can mold plus they would be cheap and the money saved could help to build the DEFENSE & OFFENSE. I know many will say well what if he works out? To them I say New England’s Past Behavior is the Best Predictor of Future Behavior. I don’t trust them!!!

          • Big Mike

            That leaves the draft to get a QB. My take is this year’s draft class isn’t very good. If you agree with that, you’re running with Hoyer. Who if everything goes well and the Bears kill it in FA and the draft, will get you at most 9 wins. More likely 7. Which is a good step and you’re all in for a QB in 2018. Or else you will simply repeat 2017 and be stuck in 7-9 win territory forever. So again I say if the Bears think JG is the answer, they need to get him. Minus what it costs to get him, Bears can still add enough pieces to get to 7-9 wins. In 2018 they can get after it again if JG works out (again, based on the Bears thinking he is the guy), they no longer are STUCK in 7-9 win territory.

            Personally, I don’t care with the exception of wasting a draft choice early on a mediocre talent. Maybe Pace thinks he knows where this year’s Dak Prescott or Russel Wilson is. If he does “Bear Down”. If that happens, the Bears will rebound much more quickly.

          • Big Mike

            Also, there is no magical potion bestowed on a homegrown QB. The top QBs in this draft look pedestrian to me.

  • BearDown100393

    Oh by all means draft the guy with a broken leg.

  • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

    Walter football has a new daft draft this morning.

    http://walterfootball.com/draft2017.php

    Allen is now the #2 pick (????) for the Niners in this mock after having tumbled into the mid-teens.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      How do you feel about this mock GP?

      • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

        I think it B whack

        • MB30SD

          Mal!

    • MB30SD

      they suck. smh

    • I think the Bleacher mock had Allen going in the teens, not Walter.

      But gotta remember, there are TWO ppl doing mock drafts over there

      Charlie and Walter, and they often don’t see eye-to-eye on particular prospects.

      Scouts and ppl who follow college LOVE Allen. NO way around it.

      A lot of experts feel he should’ve one the Heisman. That he’s going to be the next Richard Seymour.

      But when i put on the tape, I just don’t see it.

      Maybe I’m not technical enough or something.

  • Malice Halice

    Given the fact we might lose AJ, in DIRE need of a qb, also secondary is a necessity. I have no clue where to go at #3. Way too many holes

    • Sahr Gborie

      1 – AJ is not worth $17mil a year. Has he produced like Antonio Brown or Julio Jones?

      2 – Why waste the money on him when we are not in a position to compete for a playoff spot yet?

      3 – DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS so focus on DEFENSE with #3 or sell it and stockpile picks.

      4 – Get a QB in this draft (ROUND2/3) or in 2018 (SAM DARNOLD)

      • leftcoastdave

        Dude, where were you a few days ago? I detailed what happened with all first round picks, both pre-draft and during the draft. Cleveland made a haul as did the Titans, but some will argue that year was unique with the top two QB’s. Google Cleveland’s trades and you will see what they got going down from 2 to 8 and more down to 15 on draft day giving them the 12 and extra second this year as well as other picks last year.
        The question is who wants to give up what for whomever lands at 3? I agree in theory, but the Titans played the game last year and are also likely to be looking to deal. If the stars align, I think da Bears can get at least an extra second, third and fourth, possibly multiples and/or a 1 or 2 for next years.

        Here’s the value chart:
        http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/draft/draft-trade-chart/

        • Sahr Gborie

          My reason for selling #3 is because I’m not sold on any of the QB. I would gladly take GARRETT/ALLEN/BARNETT/HOOKER/LATTIMORE/ADAMS in no particular order.

          • leftcoastdave

            Depends on what happens in FA and who then needs what at that 3. I’d love to see it sold because I think two or three lower picks are more valuable to this team on the rebuild than any one pick available, even if that second or third pick added are “only” backup/competition. We need to add depth at DL, LB’s, T, TE, WR and DB. Plenty of needs to fill.

        • willbest

          In 2013, The Oakland Raiders traded the #3 to the Miami dolphins for their #12 and #42 pick.

          Meanwhile in 2011. Cleveland traded the #6 pick to Atlanta for their #27, #59, #124, and 2012’s #22 and #118.

          You get what people are willing to offer.

          • Sahr Gborie

            Lets hope someone falls in love with a player and is willing to give up a ransom to get said player

      • SC Dave

        1 – By definition, AJ is worth whatever he can get.
        2 – Because next year, when we are, you’ll sooo wish we had him
        3 – You’re late to MB’s party, but come on in.
        4 – Wishing for Darnold is a fool’s errand IMO. Will not happen.

        • Sahr Gborie

          1 – You are right he is worth whatever he can get. However his production is not equal to the money he is seeking. A WR does not change the direction of a franchise. A QB does that. We can always find another WR through FA/DRAFT

          2 – At some points during the season we will miss him. However we are building for the long haul to consistently win championships not just to win a few games in 2017 & 2018. Lets the Patriots be guiding light

          3 – Thank you. Should I bring wings or chips? LOL

          4 – If no price is too high for a QB why not pay for DARNOLD who many are projecting as the next ANDREW LUCK? Did Philly pay too much for WENTZ?

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Sounds like you’re solid GM material Mal.

      • Scharfinator

        Eye laughed out loud at that one!

    • There’s this thing called FA.

      I’m sure Pace has heard of it.

  • BearDown100393

    Jimmy Garoppolo is not going to be traded.

    • willbest

      Not necessarily. Pats could be play acting to drive up his price.

      • leftcoastdave

        I bet he gets sold. Why else show so much leg?

        • willbest

          If somebody is going to give you #3 in the draft sure. Otherwise keep him to replace Brady.

          • leftcoastdave

            I think they would take less, but who knows. Clearly he is being shopped to sell at the right price, whatever that might be. For that matter, the trade could happen after the draft after the dust settles.

          • Sahr Gborie

            why give up draft capital and money for a qb who might be a bust? draft a qb and build up the defense. it would hurt a lot less if we drafted a bust qb than if we traded for a bust qb if he does become one

          • MB30SD

            jeeeeeees

    • Huge Bears Penis

      They don’t need to trade him this year. He will be a FA next year but they can tag and trade him then. It’s not like every QB needy team in the league is not going to magically solve their QB problems by next year. They did it before with Cassel. Granted I think Jimmy G’s value is highest right now with the poor QB draft class. Also maybe Brady has told them internally if he wins another ring next year he is going to retire.

    • Could open up a slot for Cutty.

      With Jimmy G off the market, Cutty might be able to start somewhere.

  • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

    Oh gee whiz – Kevin White can run without a harness.

    Start molding his Canton bust now.

    http://chi.247sports.com/Bolt/Kevin-White-shares-video-of-his-progress-following-2016-injury-50938858

    • MB30SD

      hahaha… baby steps GP.

      literally.

    • willbest

      where is he in learning the playbook and catching the football?

      • MB30SD

        did you not see how fast he can jog now?!?!

        …that’s 2018. baby steps.

        • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

          By 2021 our passing attack will be totally sorted. Sorted…..OUT

          • MB30SD

            come on man, that’s so not fair.

            2019 at LEAST!

          • Huge Bears Penis

            If Hoyer is our QB for any amount of time it will set us back a decade. 2027 at the earliest.

          • MB30SD

            2026?

    • BearDown100393

      “bust”

      • Huge Bears Penis

        I don’t see them creating his bust for canton just yet, he has barely been on the field.

  • MB30SD

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/28/technology/uber-ceo-travis-kalanick/index.html

    my fucking god, seriously?! Jesus, what a bunch of PC bullshit. the dude is just a man, he probably had a couple drinks and had some hostile dbag yelling at him. the apocalypse is nigh, must be… especially if we draft fucking trubinski at 3

    • BearDown100393

      He was irritated about Alshon not being tagged. Hard day for everyone.

      • MB30SD

        nah, he was worried about us picking a QB @ 3

        • CanadaBear

          It’s gonna happen!

        • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

          especially a black QB. Uber doesn’t like them.

      • Sahr Gborie

        LoL

  • willbest

    Obama’s 3rd memoir and Michelle’s 1st to collectively fetch north of $60 million in advanced royalties, that crushes Slick Willy’s $15 million and GWB’s $10 million.

    • Johnnywad

      Trump wouldn’t stop to pick up a $60M dollar bill if he saw it laying on the sidewalk. Peanuts.

      • Scharfinator

        “$60M?! I know autobiographers, they’re good people. $60M is a disgrace! SAD!”

        • leftcoastdave

          Meanwhile, pay to play is over so Slick and Clint Jong Hill sit by the phone waiting for it to ring.

      • willbest

        That isn’t true, but I suspect his net worth fluctuates by that much daily.

    • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

      In fairness, GWB wrote his in crayon.

      • willbest

        It wasn’t that bad, but I don’t think I got passed page 50

  • willbest

    So earlier Pace called the Cutler situation “Fluid” and now you have Fox saying “The perception in the building may be a little different than outside from what I’ve gathered.”

    Starting to sound like we won’t be getting G, and therefore we won’t be moving on from Cutler until May at the earliest.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      • Sahr Gborie

        DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • BerwynBomber

      Yeah, hard to know what to make of that. Cutler could be suiting up for us in ’17. Wouldn’t shock me. But would shock me if they keep Cutler and don’t draft a kid, which would basically mean no substantial addressing of the QB position for another year.

      • CanadaBear

        At this point I’d be shocked if they kept Cutler (all those leaks that he is gone came from somewhere). Definitely think they are drafting a QB this year. My guess is Trubisky if he’s still there at 3. If not, maybe one of the others in the 2nd rd.

        • BerwynBomber

          Fair point about the leaks.

        • willbest

          The leaks happen if you naturally try to shop Cutler. And hell if his agent has the Jets on line too with a wink and a nod, maybe he wants to get cut. But its the Jets or Cleveland or whatever!! Don’t see how that is a marked difference from what he has been living through the last 3 years.

          • BerwynBomber

            Don’t recall reading any of that last off-season. It was more about Loggains and Cutty being such a natural fit.

            There were suggestions Pace was trying to dump him in ’15. But can’t remember if the reports were as credible as this latest one.

          • CanadaBear

            Everyone knew unless the Bears found a trading partner, Cutler was the Bears QB the last 2 years due to guaranteed money. If not for that, he would have been launched sooner. Pace says fluid as much as JA said due diligence.

        • Sahr Gborie

          Misdirection. Cutty is gone is misdirection for the draft

          • willbest

            How does that work?

      • Never know what to believe.

        It’s in the Bears best interest to at least make teams THINK they’re keeping Cutler to create a market.

        I just don’t think other teams are buying it, or even care.

        Like I said b4, no one is going to pine for Fitzgerald 2.0

  • Huge Bears Penis

    well that is not a good sign. Long’s ankle worse than I expected.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/01/kyle-long-wont-have-shoulder-surgery-this-offseason/

    • CanadaBear

      The news just keeps getting worse. Sounds like Kyle won’t be really healthy until 2018 (if then). The loss of 30 lbs is troubling. That’s a lot of muscle mass that will have to be regained. FUCK! Can’t the Beloved have any nice things?

      • leftcoastdave

        Big bummer. Grassu, step up, dude.

        • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

          Grasu. Ha.

          • Johnnywad

            Grass is no Whitehair. But can Whitehair fill a void behind Long if need be? I think he can.

          • Yah, not holding my breath over the Grasu.

            But maybe two years of not playing has made him gain girth.

    • “struggled with medication” is a polite way of saying “my son was downing 40 percocets a day” :/

      • CanadaBear

        Esp with his history. Not good.

      • Never know though. Could be the meds were making him ill.

        I took some meds once and they fucked up my body. I just stopped taking them not even a month into it.

        • yeah, but to lose 30 pounds and attribute it to struggling with medication…

    • willbest

      I was afraid of that. I felt like paying him was really risky. Guys a beast but he plays through serious issues and they only become more serious that way.

    • BearDown100393

      Cut Long.

      • Sahr Gborie

        thunder and lighting strike you down for such blasphemous words

    • MB30SD

      sigh

    • It only confirms what I suspected.

      Our Oline seemed to do better with a healthy Larsen and Kush than with hobbled Sitton and Long (even though the latter pair are way more talented).

      Bring Long along slowly. Kush I think can get it done.

      And if not, maybe Grasu can play C and Whitehair slide to RG (Both at their original position).

      Worst case scenario, Larsen.

  • Scharfinator

    “By all accounts, this year’s safety class is strong and the Bears might finally be able to replace Mike Brown. ”

    Gosh, so true, so sad.

    • MB30SD

      if Pace doesn’t bow to the mermaid’s siren qb song.

      RESIST PACE… RESIIIIIIIST!!!!

      Malik Hooker pleeeeeaaaazzzz!

      (and will hill and the best other FA safety available)

    • S, CB, Dline, TE and HB are a deep class

      Those are all needs, and never can hurt to add another mid-rd HB to complement Howard (Kamara).

  • Huge Bears Penis
    • MB30SD

      wow surprising.

      It would make sense… he is the modern day fridge

      • willbest

        Maybe they don’t want to put themselves in a cap bind. I was looking at places for them to cut, and they don’t have a lot of room. Lots of people with dead money at the moment on their roster.

        • MB30SD

          yep, as long as we benefit I don’t give a fuck about their struggles. cunts.

  • Huge Bears Penis

    Baltimore is not tagging Brandon williams either. So we would have our choice between Poe and Williams. I would be happy with either, but am hoping for Poe.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/01/ravens-wont-tag-brandon-williams-hope-to-bring-him-back/

    • Wow. Didn’t watch Williams enough, but he might be a cheaper option than Poe.

      From all accounts he’s very good, and maybe Goldman can slide out to DE where I think he’ll do better and maybe save his body more.

  • willbest

    “Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Peyton Manning, Johnny Unitas, John Elway” – Jeff

    I am going to have to kick Manning for Marino. Marino might not have a ring, but he did that shit when they weren’t treating QB’s with kid gloves.

    • BerwynBomber

      Is that his QB GOAT list? No Otto Graham?

      Statistically, Marino’s 48 TD season is still the most productive ever given the context of the era.

      • willbest

        Yes that is his QB GOAT list

  • MB30SD

    GP, kinds meh styling but 4.5 ain’t horrible perf: http://uncrate.com/article/alpine-a110/

    for a fucking Renault (non racing).

  • BerwynBomber

    Wonder if Jabril Peppers becomes a hybrd S/LB in the pros. ARI’s Bucannon seems the prototype. But it is such a new position hard to gauge how highly teams value it.

    • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

      Don’t think so. I think he will be a straight SS.

      I could see Arians going after him to build on what is already a top secondary.

      • Huge Bears Penis

        does he have to be straight? maybe he is gay… you are so homophobic.

        • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

          he’ll keep more of his money if he doesn’t have baby mamas coming to take it.

          Who is that Jets corner who has like 22 kids he needs to support?

    • I don’t like those hybrids. I said it from the start when “experts’ and meatheads alike were predicting him to the Bears at #3 that he’d fall and lucky to be drafted in the 1st rd.

      Hybrids only work when a team has a badass FS who can cover the back while the hybrid stays in the box.

      If you don’t have that FS, you’ll get scorched.

      Also, they became a thing for defending the read-option, but the read-option has more or less fizzled out, unless you’re playing Cam.

  • BerwynBomber

    Trumaine Johnson tagged.

  • Zap Rowsdower (GP)
    • willbest

      I didn’t realize he wasn’t cleared to play yet. Can’t trade him unless he can pass the physical. I think they are wrong about cutting him injured. I am pretty sure they can do that prior to him passing the preseason physical.

    • “You’ll never be rid of him, Chicago. He has 30 years and $567 buttzillion left on his current contract. Even getting benched for Jimmy Clausen—now the proud owner of half a skull—wasn’t
      enough send Jay Cutler packing forever. This man plays quarterback with the same amount of urgency that Adam Sandler puts into his film roles. One day, Cutler will just amble out onto the field in cargo shorts and demand to hand the ball off to Rob Schneider. It’s coming. I can feel it. He’ll never leave Chicago. He’ll build a patio at midfield and just hang out for the next two decades, grilling burgers while the Bears lose every game by 36 points.”

      Why your team sucks, 15 edition

      And Cargo was born..

  • willbest

    “I’ve lost nearly 30 pounds, yea. The tangible effects are ridiculous. I
    couldn’t do it for much longer than these 60 days but it’s worth it.” – Jeff

    He is 44 days through his 60 days. 30 pounds is 90,000 to 112,500 calories depending on person.

    So that means Jeff consumed 2000-2500 calories a day in alcoholic beverages.

    • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

      Lawyer math. Awesome.

      • willbest

        I can give you more if you like at 150 calories a 12 ounce beer that is 13-16 beers a day.

        • Huge Bears Penis

          ever think that instead of drinking, he is doing a physical activity of any kind that would burn calories. naw that can’t be the logical case.

          • willbest

            Obviously. And a good 10 pounds of that is probably water weight otherwise that is a rather unhealthy crash diet

          • CanadaBear

            Jeff’s still young enough to have a decent metabolism whether he exercises or not. Each decade it gets worse. At 60+ my metabolism is the equivalent of a Giant Tree Sloth.

          • MB30SD
          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            THat looks like Roger Goodell.

          • MB30SD

            hahaha

          • CanadaBear

            I’m a twinkie or two lighter than that guy!

          • MB30SD

            hahahaha

          • BerwynBomber

            Is he still in his thirties? Once you hit forty you pretty much have to diet to cut weight. Below forty you can still rely on exercise only.

          • MB30SD

            unless you have the genes of clark kent

          • SC Dave

            If by diet, you mean don’t eat garbage, I would say its the easiest way.

          • Governerd

            In the full tweet he admits to working out and cutting out after-bar fried foods. But still says it’s mostly drinking.

          • SC Dave

            Its the absence of the fried garbage that would be the prime driver of weight loss. Especially eating that trash late at night.

    • Scharfinator

      Don’t give up Jeff! And if the effects are *that* good, maybe just cut it out entirely?

      • CanadaBear

        Look out St Paddy’s Day! He will be the drunkest Irishman on the East Coast!

        • willbest

          He needs to be careful. I took about 35-40 days off once (wasn’t by design just worked out that way). And was fucking hammered on my 3rd scotch, which is normally when I just start to feel them.

          • CanadaBear

            He’s a big boy. I’m guessing HOF hangover on March 18th.

          • MB30SD

            shady said he’s like a big grizzly. 6.3’ish and a big dude.

  • CanadaBear

    Pace said the Alshon situation is fluid. Same about the Cutler situation. Fluid this! He talks like he will be involved in the bidding for Alshon. I’m sure he will be until the bidding gets over $100. Then, not so much. He’s either kidding himself (not likely) or the fans (yep) when he says he will be part of the process.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      I am thinking ‘Fluid’ was the word of the day on the toilet paper at Halas Hall today.

      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVJhR4RWwAAs97z.jpg

    • Rappoport reported there’s been NO talks between them.

      Radio silence.

      It would be surprising if Alshon re-signs, but never know.

      Maybe Pace is trying to get Pryor or something, and if that falls through, plan b.

      • willbest

        Or maybe Pace thinks the rest of the league isn’t going to hand Jeffery $15 million a year so he shouldn’t have to either.

        • SC Dave

          Both legit theories.

        • But usu what happens in that scenario is the FA gets pissed at their over evaluation and ends up signing elsewhere for cheaper out of spite

          That happened to Kreutz where he thought he was worth like $5M but the NFL responded, “No”. He ended up signing in NO for like $2M (which the Bears would’ve gave him if I remember correctly) just cuz he didn’t want to come running back with his tail between his legs..

          He ended up getting hurt and retiring mid-season or something.

          “Pride cometh before the fall”

          • CanadaBear

            Kreutz was done. Alshon, not so much.

          • Oh yeah, like I said, he got hurt then retired (and props to him for retiring and leaving $ on the table. Rare).

            But it’s about an FA’s pride thinking they’re worth more than they are.

            Usually IF the market agrees the original team was right (in this case, IF the NFL deems Alshon a $12M dude) the FA rarely returns to original team admitting “Oh yeah. You were right, I’m not worth that much.”

            That being said, it only takes ONE (even Kreutz was overpaid by NO in retrospect) and I fully believe Alshon will get $14M first 3 years.

          • leftcoastdave

            Or maybe Pace has decided that AJ is a distraction and his tude bad for the team? Better to show who is the boss so that the players and their agents know the rules of the game. Get with the program or get gone.

  • CanadaBear

    What a drag about Kyle. The Bears might be in the QB sweepstakes next year the way things are going. I don’t think there is a real replacement for Kyle on the roster. Either at guard or team leader. The Bears will probably be worse at QB and WR next year and you know the OL will be worse without Kyle. I don’t see DT ever being back to his old self. Hope I’m wrong but it reminds me of McPhee. Unless Pace gets 4 good DB’s the back end will still be a problem. The tall order in the offseason just keeps getting taller. FUCK!

  • BearDown100393

    Apollo 13 had more going for it than POX.

    • willbest

      The original stage production or the Tom Hanks and Bill Paxton remake?

      • MB30SD

        RIP Chet

        #neverforget

  • MB30SD
    • Zap Rowsdower (GP)
      • MB30SD

        uuggghhhhhh…

        The Lamond is like the HS cheerleader 9.8 that’s so so hot, but that’s a little high maintenance and only likes missionary and/or doggy.

        The Orca is the weird but cute (7.5) half-hippie half yuppy chick that has braids in her hair and pierced nipples and begs you to fuck her in her ass then rips off the condonm and finishes you in her mouth.

        Choices choices

        • BuddhaJoe

          Wait how is that a choice? You take the freak every time.

          • MB30SD

            yeah, but you know as well as I do… the freak is a fucking lunatic.

            I don’t do crazy maings. can’t take it. I can smell it from a mile away and then I run the opposite direction.

  • willbest

    Here we go. Denmark can’t find enough labor. It boasts a 4.3% unemployment rate, but GDP only grew 1.2%. One company was so desperate that:

    “He offered a salary bump of more than 2 percent, but raising wages further would crimp his margins.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/28/business/economy/denmark-jobs-full-employment.html?hp

    Well Jee Golly Whiz. 2 whole percent. Better open the borders and flood the labor market otherwise wages might get out of hand entirely. Got to hand it to the NYT, this article would be right at home in the WSJ.

  • MB30SD

    Take all of this cunt’s money and give it to all the poor in the region and maybe there won’t be so much anger and disillusionment which turn into terrorists.

    This guy is a total fucking joke.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/01/asia/saudi-visit-indonesia/index.html

    • our bombs and drone strikes and decades of shit-baggery probably help with the anger and disillusionment, too.

      • MB30SD

        fuck that, reign down the fucking drone strikes man… seriously. Fuck that shit, reign that shit DOWN!!!

        The shit-baggery I might accept at a general level since we have had TWO bushes in the WH

    • There’s a lot of rumblings in Saudi Arabia about over throwing the monarchs.

      It’s only a matter of time before their extremists turn on them (see The French Revolution)

      • willbest

        Bite the hand that feeds them?

        • They’re not poor yet, but what happens when the world gets off oil and Saudi Arabia can’t afford to bribe their fanatics?

          Ruh-roh.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            They’ll release renewable energy technology they’ve been hiding for years but unfortunately by then evra one will have a chip inplant and we’ll all get nothing and like it.

            Thatz how it gowz!

          • According to my Tin-Foil Hat Daily newsletter, if you have a SS, ID, Passport, Cell, or Credit Card, you’re already chipped by the mark of the beast!

            dum dum dum…

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Ahhh. ..you mean you don’t have the upgrade yet. Tssk, tssk. They say you’ll be able to shovel shit in Louisiana while thinking you’re banging a 3 titted Martian on the moon.

          • willbest

            Its not like the Saudi’s haven’t tried to kill fracking. They even hired Matt Damon to make a movie against it.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        New Mecca is coming? Peeps don’t have much of a chance against tanks and drones. It’ll have to be coordinated in conjuction with international defunding and sanctions.

    • SC Dave

      Gee, that’s more than twice Michelle’s entourage!

      • MB30SD

        and melania?

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Notice they didn’t roll out the red carpet for him? That’s code for the bloodline. Dudes just a puppet.

      • MB30SD

        fucking fat pig (in every sense) of a man is what he is

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Careful now, isn’t he kin? Hahaha

          • MB30SD

            We’re all kinds if you take it back far enough amigo

  • willbest
    • MB30SD

      Who?

      (cares)

  • willbest

    2 more months!

  • it’s 63 degrees in antarctica today. but we’re fine. everything is fine.

    • willbest

      Its the middle of summer there though.

      • MB30SD

        jesus

        • willbest

          Oh right, I forgot weather equals climate when it supports the narrative.

          • MB30SD

            yes!

            …or you know, reams of empirical scientific data.

            Either or, you know, whichever you’d like more. Pool or a pond.

          • willbest

            And 2 years ago Chicago had record snow, and one of these years recently they cancelled schools 3 times because it was too cold to start the buses.

            Yellowstone goes off and not only do we lose Wyoming and half of Montana but the next Ice Age starts.

          • MB30SD

            Right, so doesn’t that support the narrative again… total changing weather patterns all around the world.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Did you know it’s gettin hotter in Mars as well? What ARE those Martians doing?

          • Cite it or didn’t happen.

            I would imagine there’s a plethora of reasons if that’s true, not least of which, they don’t have an atmosphere or ozone layer.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Getting right on it Mr. Blitzer! Hee hee

          • MB30SD

            (rolls eyes)

            I don’t give a fuck about mars. I care about the world my kids are going to have to live in.

          • willbest

            We had to pass playboys around. I just caught the tail end of downloading 1 picture every 6 minutes. Back when you hoped it was a good one and not somebody trolling you with a woman getting fucked by a horse. When my kids are teens they are going to be passing around VR porn of Taylor Swift and whoever is the current Miley Cirus or Selina Gomez on the Disney Channel

          • MB30SD

            Probably

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Hebrews 12:29 – For our God [is] a consuming fire.

            Its…all…your…fault!

          • MB30SD

            Yep, Christianity is a farce that’s just a cheap carbon copy.

            Hahahaha

            See what I did there

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Hahaha

            Yes, let’s not talk about the burning bush either then, or raining down fire from heaven shall we. I’m telling you, its your people’s god that doesn’t play nice my man.

          • MB30SD

            oh I know, that’s why christianity is a farce, some new age flithyh hippy thought it was a bit too harsh and come up with some shit to make it nicer… but it’s not at all. Just much more veiled and deep seeded… if it happened today, it would be considered just another whacko cult.

            All religion is bullshit, even mine… we were just first (of the judeo/christian mold.)

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Allegory my man. It has its uses but it can become very disturbing when the virus gets out of control.

          • MB30SD

            When hasn’t it been

          • Hey, the Godfather 2 was better than the original!

          • MB30SD

            never saw either

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            I know that the Federal Govt. owns a patent on weather modification they filed in 1920. Better get your bunker ready before the last Trump blows his bullhorn.

          • willbest

            So prior to the invention of the integrated circuit and ballistic missiles?

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            They had GPS over 2000 years ago maing. Whatchu talkin bout Willis?

          • willbest

            I don’t think that is right, the sextant wasn’t invented until the 1730s. Or is that what they want us to believe?

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Procession of the equinox and Ze starz.

          • MB30SD

            fuck a bunker, they’ll take me down firin’

            ‘MURICA!!

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            You’d make a great medic.

          • MB30SD

            If I ever even considered the military I would have tried out for buds. If you’re going to torture yourself, you might as well end up being the best.

            That said, I HATE cold water, so I don’t know if I would have made it. That and I get deathly seasick. hahaha

            Just realized, I would have been a perfect candidate. hahahaha

          • My cousin tried out for BUDS.

            Fucked up his back. That was that.

            He was the first to tell me (b4 all the movies came out) that they handcuff you behind your back and throw you into an Olympic size swimming pool and you have to sorta shimmy down to the bottom to pop back up to the top, and you have to do this a few times.

            He said a lot of peeps passed out. The medics dove in, drug them out, gave them CPR.

            When they came around, they asked, “Ok. ready to do it again?”

            Needless to say, many rung the bell there and then

            But talk about simulated drowning, eh? We were doing that shit to our own guys since the 90s lol

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            I was thinking hacksaw ridge.

          • MB30SD

            never saw it but seemed like a silly premise… even though based on real life

          • revisionist facts!

          • MB30SD

            FAKE SCIENCE!!!

          • So a majority of scientists are lefty snowflakes conspiring to create a new world order?

            Or are you saying you know more than them?

          • MB30SD

            Both?

          • Survey finds 1 in 4 Americans complete morons…

          • willbest

            I don’t know how fair that is. I mean the phrase “climate change” is as obvious as it is meaningless.

            I might also point out that science doesn’t give a shit who agrees with it. History is full of people that were considered crackpots even though he verified his hypothesis and others could replicate it. Ignaz Semmelweis was not well received for example.

          • The scientific method has modified itself big time in the past 200 years.

            Yes, maybe in ancient days the “scientists” believed in a Ptolemaic system, but those were also the days when bloodletting was perceived as “medicine”, both scientist and doctors have progressed much since then, and for the most part has self-corrected to a high degree.

            Can it be that homeopathic witchdoctors are ahead of science? That we really do live in a computer simulation? that we rode around on T-rexes?

            Perhaps.

            But you stick with the “crack pots” , and I’ll side with the “establishment” which overwhelming argues that humans are dramatically fucking up the planet.

          • leftcoastdave

            The scientific method has never changed. It is immutable. It is quite simply systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

            Dat don’t change.

            What does change are the actual measurements gathered which are changed by the advocates of a given outcome to achieve the results they want.

            That ain’t the scientific method, that’s a political agenda.

          • The scientific method hasn’t changed?

            Of course it has.

            Aristotle is often credited to be the first “scientist” in many fields and he came up with this hierarchy (which later “scientists” in the dark ages expanded to fit angels and god)

            http://media1.shmoop.com/images/biology/biobook_taxonomy_graphik_5.png

            Now, you may argue they weren’t “true” scientists, but in their age, Aristotle, Ptolemy, etc were considered top minds and “scientists”

            The MODERN scientific method is much more strenuous and excludes for the most part metaphysical conjecture (some argue the origin of the universe to be “metaphysical conjecture in that it will never be “observable” but that’s a rather rare gray area).

            The modern scientific method is based on what you said, and is PEER reviewed and based on CONSENSUS.

            Not saying the consensus is always right (obviously, many ppl believed in the Newtonian universe before Einstein came along) but they tend to be on the right track for the most part (in the past 200 years or so).

            Ergo, if 97% of scientist conclude that humans are indeed responsible for climate change (and that it’s not some natural fluctuation) then MOST likely they’re on to something.

            Same with evolution and gravity.

            They’re both “theories” but when the data and FACTS overwhelmingly point to their validity, then it’s reasonably to assume both exist.

          • leftcoastdave

            The scientific method is well defined and stated above. What passed for “science” or “scientific (?) beliefs” in years past is irrelevant to the discussion and patently not science. Metaphysical conjecture has never had anything to do with the scientific method.

            The scientific method is not at all subject to “CONSENSUS”. It is only “proven” by a hypothesis being subject to testing which is repeated with consistent results. It has nothing to do with “consensus” which presumes opinion.

            Theories which “point to their validity” are not scientific facts, they remain in the realm of speculation. Only that which can withstand the rigors of the scientific method is “settled science”. The rest is merely opinion, no matter how many people hold that opinion or how popular it might be.

          • ” It is only “proven” by a hypothesis being subject to testing”

            Let me ask you this?

            Do you believe in the Big Bang?

            It is neither observable nor subject to recreation (though we’re trying on smaller level)

            Many facets of the theory of relativity also fall outside the realm of observable or repeatable test-ability , but nevertheless is a working model that many think true.

            Same on the sub-atomic level (have we seen dark matter yet? Yet many assume it’s there)

            The same can be said about climate change. Unfortunately for us, there weren’t aliens taking arctic samples on planet earth a million years ago to compare to our relatively modest modern samples, but many scientists still have used the same method to overwhelmingly conclude that humans are indeed changing the climate.

          • willbest

            Which is why they are called theories. Nobody is asking you to set policies that will predominantly fall on the poor the hardest, while enriching friends of the politician based on the big bang or special relativity.

            Now you do have engineers desperately trying to get the finer points of quantum mechanics into practical form because moar pwr.

          • But “theories” are practically “true” now.
            Science has moved away from “laws” like when I grew up learning about Newtonian Laws, but theories are like 99.9999% true in some cases, so in many respects, they’re “true” and what we base our knowledge on going forward.

            As to policy, I’m not debating that. Even scientists themselves may disagree on the “solutions” but first we gotta admit there’s an actual fucking problem, which some deny, then take it from there.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Do you think global warming deniers should be sent to camps for re-education?

          • Such camps already exist.

            They’re called Science Departments.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            So you’ve got the feva real bad then. It is as I feared. Is this why you piss on your women….because you’re trying to cool them down?

          • So you don’t believe in science?

            Science created your tin-foil hat, Trac.

            How could you block the New World Order Alien Demons subliminal radiowaves without the tinfoil hat science has made possible!?

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Observeable, repeatable, testable? Yeah sure, it’s meta physics hocus pocus that eye think is a load of gobbledy gook.

          • leftcoastdave

            Wrong again. A theory is a theory until it can be tested with the same result. It has nothing to do with “practically” nothing. People might “believe” it is correct, but it is not a scientific law until it can be replicated.

            Science has not moved away from laws other than junk science and Bill Nye the Science Guy. That’s politics.

            And anyway, how do you calculate that 99.999%? Opinion? Yep. “Based on our knowledge.” No, based upon opinion. That ain’t science.

          • Wrong.

            There’s

            Hypothesis.

            When that Hypothesis is tested, “proven”, then it moves to

            Theory

            “Laws” isn’t used as much any more, and tends to only pertain to Newtonian Laws as they were known for centuries

            That’s why you don’t hear “Laws of Relativity” and merely a “theory of relativity” which has superseded Newtonian “laws”.

            Laws originated in the Enlightenment era when they thought that once a theory was practically proven, that it became an immutable “law” that would always be true everywhere for all time.

            But Einstein came along and proved that false, and now scientists go by “theory” even if they’re practically true.

            Again, Big Bang and Evolution are “theories” (not laws) but most rational ppl assume them true because both present a mountain of evidence in favor of their validity .

          • leftcoastdave

            Yes, I might have been loose in applying the word to “laws”, but that has nothing to do with the topic at hand which is your statement that “consensus” = “science.” It does not. Specifically, the big bang theory has issues over the expansion vs the contraction issues presented thereby and what (if anything) creates the balance unless it is gravity and why does it not all collapse? That is a simplistic example. Similarly, “evolution” is so ill-defined and conflated as to be anything other than a “valid theory.” Theory of what exactly?

            You have moved off into the areas of opinion and faith, not science.

            “But Einstein came along and proved that false, and now scientists go by “theory” even if they’re practically true.”

            Defined how?

          • willbest

            Is it a problem? The IPCC range is 1.5 to 4.5 C. The best guess on the bottom range is it would be a net benefit, the top end is a big Fing deal. Most hypotheses are in the 2.5-3.5 range, but the actual data of the last 20 years is trending along below that 1.5 range.

          • leftcoastdave

            It matters not a wit whether I or anyone else “believes” in the Big Bang, by which I assume you mean the theory. It has proponents and opponents based upon what it purports to answer and what it is at odds with the theory. But what anyone “believes” about it has nothing to do with science.

            It remains an unproven theory.

            Similarly the theory of relativity which has trouble when moved from macro to the micro level. There is not yet a grand unifying theory.

            Again, what some might believe is irrelevant to the scientific method.

            And thus, many “scientists” opine that we influence the climate, but nobody has a clue to what extent because it is not subject to quantification and testing.

            Therefore, it is junk “science” posing as a certainty through sloppy analysis.

          • MB30SD

            Really?!?!?! That fucking low?!?!?!

            Jesus, based on my own extensive sample size, I’ve found the number to be more like 3 outta 4

          • You do live in SD lol

          • willbest

            MPAI, especially outside their occupation.

          • MB30SD

            Like la is better and not worse??!? Hahahaha

          • SC Dave

            Don’t care about the majority of scientists. At least qualify to scientists that actually study the shit. After all, sociologists are “scientists”.

          • So you trust the scientific method when it comes to building computers, tvs, cars, nuclear missiles, hadron colliders, artificial hearts,vaccines, surgeries, jets, space-stations, 300mph trains, every mechanical tool, theories about a heliocentric universe, relativity, evolution… but when it comes to climate change…nah. They don’t know what they’re talking about?

          • Huge Bears Penis

            climate is God’s will not science!

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Which God? There’s quite a few to choose from. Seriously.

          • I pray to Apollo from time to time, just to cover my bases.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Good for you. Maybe he’ll give you the key to the bottomless pit.

            Personally, I’m a fan of Hercules. He’s my hero-o-o!

          • Huge Bears Penis

            Crom.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Good one.

          • leftcoastdave

            Well, yea, and he also created the Sun which has a whole lot more than puny men to do with the weather. Hell, even the moon controls the tides, something we could never influence. And more to the point, if we Tax the Shit out of our own economy to “save Gaia” it just don’t matter because we are a minor part of what happens in India, China, Russia, etc., etc., and so why waste our time pissing in the ocean?

          • willbest

            As MB would say smh.

            You aren’t this stupid. First off there is no scientific method for building computers. There is taking the laws of nature and applying them. Which incidentally, doesn’t require understanding the science behind it. People were using levers before Archimedes explained the principle behind it.

            And there in lies the problem. Climate science isn’t concrete science. Well that isn’t true. Some of it is. Sometimes they get off their asses and do a little experiment

            http://www.sci-news.com/physics/cern-cosmic-rays-influence-cloud-formation.html

            But when you go and sit on the pews on Sunday and get your sermon from the priest of gaia, what you are digesting is IPCC notes on models. Do you know what a fucking model is? Its a hypothesis. Every one of them. Every single model starts with “assume A through ZZZ is true”. If these assumptions hold, and we didn’t miss anything, then the climate will do ->this over the next 50-100 years.

            And don’t get me wrong. I am not saying that these scientists are all whoring themselves because the Government desires bigger government. If you go to the trouble of reading the stuff they write, its got all kinds of hedges and qualifications. You know the types of things that you expect to see when a person is running an experiment not the types of things we get with a concluded experiment like “AND THUS we conclude that gravity is 9.8 m/s2 on earth at sea level”

            But the politicians and activists don’t want to wait for the results because “it will be too late”. Better act now! And not just we are going to tax CO2 emissions. We are going to say if you emit CO2 you have to buy from our politically connected friends who set up tree nurseries and solar power plants, and engage in strip mining for lithium to make batteries that can be recharged when placed under bat shit.

          • “Climate science isn’t concrete science”

            There are levels to knowledge as anyone who has studied epistemology understands.

            There’s pretty much mathematical knowledge

            2+2=4

            And then there’s everything else really.

            Nothing will be as “concrete” or as “certain” as that.

            I already brought up the Big Bang theory as perhaps not being “concrete” in that no way can we “reproduce” or observe it. Nevertheless, even though it’s not as certain as 2+2=4, it’s still a working model that jibes with a lot of other science we can test.

            And we still can’t go the speed of light, so we can’t really “prove” Einstein’s twin test, that one twin going the speed of light will age slower than the one not going the speed of light.

            Still, lots of other stuff prove the theory right, and as our technology is progressing, and we are able to begin to test some of the predictions of Big Bang and relativity, the results are going as predicted.

            There’s scientists from many fields all around the world from the best universities and academic institutions – astrophysicists, geologists, meteorologist, glacialogist, oceanographer, atmospherist chemist, atmospherist, biogeo chemist, etc etc…

            who have independently concluded that the earth is warming and that humans are the cause.

            Even other disciplines are supporting this as biologists are observing that the animal kingdom is migrating to places certain species otherwise have never been to due to such dramatic changes.

            We can’t just shrug them all off because we don’t like the political implications or claim they’re all practicing “junk science”.

            No science is perfect, and every field often make mistakes, but to discard the entire field due to a few mistakes is short-sighted.

          • leftcoastdave

            No, “climate science” as you define it is not science. What today goes for “climate science” is simply faith. “Models” are created with variables plucked out of backsides to predict whatever the modeler wants to predict. When has any “climate model” ever been right? Weather, ie., “climate” has been cyclical throughout history. Ever hear of Greenland? The Vikings farmed there. Then the climate changed. Probably caused by cows farting or all the camp fires burning according to a modern “climate scientist.” Go over and check out their villages or read about it on Wicki.
            Even if to some degree man caused factors influence the weather, it is infinitesimally small to the effects the sun has on our climate.
            What takes place in the USA is an even smaller part of that insignificant amount.
            Yet pinheads advocate that we tax our economy and needlessly burden even the poorest among us with regulations for which there is no proven benefit, but guaranteed cost to everybody.
            Prove the benefit before you burden society. For the wealthy (like Algore and his insignificant “carbon footprint”) it is insignificant. For the poorest, it raises the cost of electricity as one simple example. Why? So the “liberal intelligentsia” (truly an oxymoron) “feel good.”
            We need not worship at the altar of the theology of the self interested cashing in on alarmist theory. Show a rational cost benefit analysis with any degree of credibility and rational people will begin to listen. Until then, it is just the sheep following the herd.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            moron.

          • Scharfinator

            I’m just waiting for you to contribute instead of typing moron…

          • Huge Bears Penis

            is there really anything more that needs to be said? I could quote all the reputable sources that exists and certain types of people(morons) would not believe. The guy doesn’t even have his history correct.

          • willbest

            No you couldn’t.

          • Scharfinator

            Then why say anything at all?

          • Huge Bears Penis

            moron.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Boy, wills really given you a hard on, hasn’t he?

          • Huge Bears Penis

            normally I don’t read a lot of the crazy debates about politics and such, however i was bored. I guess if people are stupid enough to think vaccines cause autism, the world is flat, and dinosaurs never existed, I should not be shocked by this.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            It’s the mark of genius to be able to entertain a thought without believing it. Only the undead can cross over to the underverse.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            moron.

      • ok. it’s summer there. and the 63 is more than 10 degrees hotter than today’s record high for today in antarctica. in the summer.

        a new record is a new record, regardless of season.

        • willbest
          • MB30SD

            Oh right, I forgot weather equals climate when it supports the narrative.

          • willbest

            That is 28 days of weather!

          • which also isn’t a very calming piece of information.

          • MB30SD

            hahahaha, exactly

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          I’m buying me some beach front property. Woohoo!

          • There’s nazis and aliens holed up in antartica though, so brush up on your german-ese

          • willbest

            Its all good, Carrie Stetko will regulate.

    • Zap Rowsdower (GP)
      • MB30SD

        damn, water world reference.

        +… or -532 blog points, I can’t decide which.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      It’s the new frontier man, that’s awesome.

      • i can’t afford to buy here in NYC, but down there? front AND back yard!

        • willbest

          I would like a backyard, but they don’t exist in the older suburbs. Gotta head out aways for that. Of course, even that is hit or miss. There was this craze of putting 5000 sq. ft houses on 1/4 acre plots back in the 90’s and 00’s

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          You’re a good sport Evan.

  • MB30SD
  • CanadaBear
    • Mentioned Logan Ryan from Pats as good cheap option.

      Also like his point about bringing guys from winning cultures like the Pats.

      We desperately need that in our locker room. Guys who still get pissed when they lose.

      Hits on Watson dead on. The intangibles are there.

      But his daffy duck O, inaccuracy (17ints) and slight frame must be addressed.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Salary CAP set at $167M (NFL Net Radio).

  • BearDown100393

    James Harrison re-signed with Pitt. He is 100 years old.

    • MB30SD

      and one of the baddest men in the NFL. I would NOT like to meet him in a dark alley man.

      https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/68/b0/c5/68b0c56429634b1440bfa139a3339bee.jpg

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Who do you want to meet in a dark alley? Lol

        • willbest

          Kate Upton. Haven’t you been following the last couple days. She is free 1 night a week during baseball season.

          • MB30SD

            last couple days!? Dude, I’ve had a massive crush on her for like 2 years. my dream girl, soft and curvy in ALL the right places… and beautiful.

          • willbest

            Well I know that, but sometimes this blog goes a couple months without discussing her, so you don’t have the opportunity to refresh everybody’s memory.

          • MB30SD

            yeah, good point.

            Have I mentioned I don’t like baseball (or justin verlander)

          • CanadaBear

            2 years? It’s been at least 3+ years. This is her third SI cover.

          • willbest

            Yeah but she is only 24 years old, unlike Butch I though MB has a 21 and over policy.

          • CanadaBear

            Pretty sure he made an exception for her.

          • MB30SD

            Sheesh. Time flies canada

        • MB30SD
          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Seriously though, who ever goes to dark alleys nowadays?

          • MB30SD

            It’s a saying, get over it

  • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

    Dog Wick

    • MB30SD

      saw this funny

      • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

        Wick Jackson?

    • bwhahaha

    • Scharfinator

      10/10 Would see… probably more than once

  • “The most important part is going to be the interview process. The Bears need to find out what makes these guys tick.” – Andy

    And this is what most of us aren’t privy to.

    A former scout on NFLN said that when he began, the process was 70% physical 30% mental/character (does the player LOVE football. Does he smoke out? Does he have a posse, crazy uncles?)

    The scout said that by the time he stopped scouting professionally, the ratio had flipped.

    It was 70% mental/character evaluation, 30% physical.

    I find the draft fascinating because what it really is – at heart – is the process of discovering greatness.

    (and NOT a slave auction, though slave owners themselves were also trying to find ‘great’ slaves, right?)

    Billions of dollars are pouring into recognizing greatness before it materializes.

    Like I said before, it’s like trying to predict the next Gogh or Mozart.

    They’re attempting to quantify greatness. And you never know. With the millions they’re pouring into it, maybe they come close to creating some formula for greatness that may be applied across fields.

    in 2050, I expect the process to resemble this.

    • willbest

      But does it become too much like Big Pharma. Where some drugs are great, and other Drugs are forced to be great because too much is riding on them.

    • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

      Maybe why Westworld dumped the head of scouting and the whole scouting org and started over

  • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

    A marvel exec said that if Hugh Jackman had not wanted Wolverine they were thinking of going with Bob Hoskins.

    Fuck me. Bob Hoskins as Wolverine.

    https://youtu.be/I7I89iTDBj4?t=175

    • MB30SD

      GTFO!

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Oh yeah well something’s up because last time I checked, Wolverines getting older. He’s not supposed to get older is he?

    • willbest

      Oh you mean like 20 years ago. It will be interesting who they get to play him next.

    • da faq

      That’s almost as bad as Val Kilmer as Batman.

      • willbest

        Wasn’t the worst Batman.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Unless you mean Adam West … oh yes he was!

        • Affleck?

          • willbest

            I haven’t seen him, but apparently people forgot there was a Batman between Kilmer and Bale. Either that or blocked it as being too traumatic.

  • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

    Bungles GM says “you want AJ? be prepared to pay up bitch”

    http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/03/bengals_executive_says_nfl_tea.html

    • Part of the equation must be them unsatisfied with Dalton.

      Fuck it. Yet one more reason to wait to ’18.

      Jimmy G and McCarron can be had for free or cheaper, while the QB class should be more robust.

      #ButchPlan

    • BerwynBomber

      Sounds like more of a bluff than the Pats. What is CIN going to do when McCarron becomes a UFA next year? Pay him? That only works if you are getting rid of Dalton or the McCarron market has plummeted to the point where he can’t elicit bridge offers from other teams.

      • willbest

        Are the Bengals in win now mode?

  • willbest
  • willbest

    Interestingly line, Cutler has some say in where he is traded to. I suppose that is always a problem when the player has FU money and can choose to retire.

    McCaron and G staying put. Lets say Taylor and Cousins do to. That leaves Jets, Browns, and 9ers as possible trade partners and maybe Arizona or Houston as some sort of dark horse.

    Of course then what? Trubisky, Hoyer, or Glennon?

    • McCaron and G staying put is great for the Bears, esp in a dubious QB draft class.

      Might force one of those teams you mentioned to take a bigger risk on Cargo.

      Cousins staying on the skins will also mean the 9ers now will almost definitely draft Trubisky and start a QB run early.

      • leftcoastdave

        What has happened today? Suddenly it seems everybody is seeing silver linings!

        I’ll add one. I heard Kyle Long is pushing to get his brother on the team. What a great addition to the D line.

        • willbest

          Maybe 3 years ago. His brother is a depth player that will struggle to make the 53 now

          • leftcoastdave

            Not my job to evaluate, but if he can contribute on that DL and will be a good influence in the locker room and help develop Bullard he might be a good stop gap while other talent is developed. But that said, I think we’ve got a real shot at more of an impact player in FA if that is where the chips fall. If not, fill the absolute needs starting at CB and S, then TE and possibly LB or DL, maybe even a T.

            AJ’s money can buy a lot more impact in those areas than he could ever make on next year’s team.

          • Yeah, like 3-4 yrs ago maybe.

            Plus, not Pace type.

            Pace for the most part likes FAs below 30 unless an AP is available like Sitton.

    • BerwynBomber

      He only has say if a) he is willing to take a pay cut, or b) he is willing to retire.

      If he doesn’t report to a team to which he is traded, he’ll either be looking at a pay cut once he is released or retirement. Unless, of course, there is a big market for him.

      • willbest

        Whoever trades for a player is going to need them to buy in. You don’t want to give value for a disgruntled employee.

        • BerwynBomber

          Right, and that will get around the league quick. So most likely it will either a) kill all trades, or b) make him a less expensive option upon release. Or he retires.

  • BearDown100393

    “We need to do the things we need to do to win.” – John Fox
    Oh boy.

    • #albinoLovie

      Listen to Billichick talk about Football.

      Then to Fox and Lovie.

      Suddenly our 3 wins and their umpteenth SB makes perfect sense.

      • MB30SD

        Yup.

        bellicheatz pressers are the only ones more entertaining than trumps… For the diametrically opposite reason, but still

    • willbest

      Who was chewing me out for basically agreeing with MB that Fox is already retired?

      • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

        NOBODY

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          !!!

          • MB30SD

            !!!…!

      • Johnnywad

        I said it’ll sound stupid if he goes out and wins this season. I believe the guy still has what it takes to put together a winning season. That’s far from chewing anybody out.

        Nobody wins or sounds excited with 20 on IR and your 4th QB under center.

        I could be wrong. But he didn’t lose games this season because he would rather be in Boca.

        • MB30SD

          TBD

          • Johnnywad

            Correct.

          • CanadaBear

            W@B.

    • SC Dave

      Like, for example, score more points?

      • willbest

        If it was some other coach than Fox, I would probably insist that they be evaluated for a stroke.

    • Scharfinator

      Never have I considered Fox more of a White Lovie than now.

  • BuddhaJoe

    Fuck the QBs, fix the secondary. Hell, one of those QBs will be around in the 2nd anyway.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Any relation to budda baker?

      • BuddhaJoe

        Of course, he’s my 2nd cousin’s friend’s brother’s roommate.

    • leftcoastdave

      Fourth or Fifth.

      Amen brother. Killer D comes first. If Barkley does not develop and learn to protect the ball, plan to win games 10- 7 under Hoyer.

      • Irish Sweetness

        People think Hoyer and Barkley are under contract with the Bears for 2017 onwards?

        They both signed one year deals last year.

        • MB30SD

          And they will again

    • MB30SD

      dis

      • Big Mike

        There are two sides to which unit to fix. 1) which unit can give you the biggest improvement 2) available talent. This year the winner is clearly the Bears secondary. If they were simply average that’s a huge improvement. This year the draft is loaded with talent and FA has a nice selection of players. You can get to average next year with the first round pick and a quality FA. I’d say even better than average, but Rookies take a while to adjust. No other unit has the same potential for improvement. We’re talking going from an F to a B- with 2 moves. WR is probably second. But the best FA WR is Alshon and apparently we don’t want him.

        • MB30SD

          Jes Mike, jeeeesssss!!

  • BerwynBomber
    • Irish Sweetness

      #5 ain’t sexy. Know what’s sexy? #3. Even though the QBs don’t have first round grades on them, you know they’ll get snapped up. The big three anyway. Two of those – at least – will be available at #3. Somebody will pay us handsomely. Think about it. We could draft the top TE, and a top safety, a and have a bunch of picks to splash out on. The RB crop is deep. We can grab a top OT.

      If Pace doesn’t go with the RB phenom, then I hope he passes on everyone else and takes a phone call. None of the safeties have a #3 grade, and none of the QBs are rated highly (but Trubs will be a passer one day, and no doubt Watson has the heart of a baller, as perhaps so had Tebow).

      Sign Hightower and a couple vet receivers, maybe a CB. Draft everyone else.

      • MB30SD

        Dude, both safeties are thought to be the best to come out of college since Thomas and berry. TWO!!!

        I keep seeing Adams and hooker rated in the 5 -10 best players OVERALL in the draft. And if you have a need as historically deep and heavy as ours they’d be worth a 1 for us in this draft if no trades we’re on the table

        • Irish Sweetness

          But Jamal is a SS, and Hooker has this injury thing over him – if that wasn’t there you can pull the trigger on him. Neither screams a three pick. If you get Garret or Fournette, it’s a home run.

          • MB30SD

            They are both considered Grand slams at this point.

            Hooker is 20 and his injuries were totally not football critical for his position. One was a hernia and the other a minor shoulder thing if memory serves.

            The hernia you can just totally forget about (100% non issue), the shoulder shouldn’t impact him at all.

            I’d take hooker and run man

          • CanadaBear

            Shoulders and safeties can’t be ignored. Esp at SS.

          • MB30SD

            he’s a free safety.

            http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2690534-malik-hooker-injury-updates-on-2017-nfl-draft-prospects-labrum-hernia-surgery

            I’ve had both of these injuries (strangely). the hernia is a total and utter non-issue and had zero impact on my play or on my life 3 weeks post surgery. Like zero, nada, none, nil. It shouldn’t have even been mentioned.

            The labrum is more serious, but I tore my labrum and never got the surgery. The only thing that dropped off, was that I can’t throw a football as far as I used to… and that shoulder droops a bit more than the other one. I had zero strength or flexibility drop off after it healed, and again, I didn’t get mine repaired.

            That and he’s 20 years old… thus, I give these injuries a zero on my scale of ‘worried they’ll effect his play’ scale.

            He needs to be our #3 still. period.

          • CanadaBear

            Not saying anything about the guy just that shoulders are often a problem for safeties. Once they start to go, so do the big hits.

          • MB30SD

            bullshit. read what I wrote to canada on Hooker’s injuries.

            I’ve had both those same injuries and they had ZERO impact on my game as a FS. Like, none whatsoever.

      • BerwynBomber

        As with the usual two or three other ex-college QBs who dot the NFL landscape every year and contribute to a franchise at another position, Tebow should have done the same, in this case to TE.

        The only other option for him extending his career as a QB would have been if a team like MIN had decided to pick-him, pre-Bridgewater, and teamed him with AP to become a dominant run team. Would have had a short shelf life — not only because of AP’s mileage but the hits the QB would have taken — but might have been interesting to watch.

        • leftcoastdave

          Agree with your thinking. Look at how Cam’s knowledge of where the QB wants him has added to his effectiveness as a WR.

    • willbest

      Which is the same thing as saying they aren’t impressed with the 3rd or 4th best non-QB option.

    • leftcoastdave

      Great! Let the games begin. Would be great to have it done before the draft as everybody would have a feel for the target and then the leapfrog becomes more likely like last year at 1 and 2.

  • MB30SD

    anya ya guys like moulin rouge… or am I just partly gay?

    NTTAWWT

    • Irish Sweetness

      Some good numbers in that. Liked Come What May and Your Song from the two stars, Complainte De La Butte from Rufus Wainwright, I think.

      • MB30SD

        Knew I could count on you.

        Check out Moana with the girlz yet?

        Lego Batman 3d was pretty good

        • Irish Sweetness

          I have still not seen a movie in 3D. I’m 45 in a couple of weeks.

          I observed my kids enjoying Moana, but couldn’t get into it. Still have to check out Lego Batman. I liked the last one.

          For the grown-ups .. .The Founder was really good. I believe Moonlight is excellent. Hell or high water was good, too.

          • MB30SD

            Moana is quickly replacing Tangled as my favorite… But I have to watch it about 20 more times to get there. I really like it… It’s their best in a long time.

            Hell or high water was good… Little thin, but good.

  • MB30SD

    anyone watch Taboo? As good as it looks. Fucking love tom hardy. dude is a MAC

    • Irish Sweetness

      Yeah, I was expecting more though. Peaky Blinders was way better, and he was better in it. Get into Peaky Blinders …

      It seems nobody will just make an 8-parter now, they all have to turn into seasonal things for the cash money.

      • MB30SD

        Thanks.

        Damn. Sad, they made it look so good

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Sounds like the perfect name for my new yacht I’ll be buying for my Antarctica exodus.

    • Bender McLugh

      not yet, can’t wait to start it

      • MB30SD

        lemme know how it is… I’m dreading that I’ve been over-hyped.

  • Waffle

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/01/jets-bears-could-land-mike-glennon/

    I promise you right now. Glennon as Bears qb = Waffle done with Bears

    • Irish Sweetness

      Were we done with the Bears when Rex blew up Pearl Harbor?

    • Sauron’s right eyeball
      • Scharfinator

        Damn. Can’t tell whether *EYE* should pity or be disgusted by this guy.

        *EYE* think it’s both.

        Edit: EYE EYE EYE

    • MB30SD
    • beninnorcal

      Napoleon Dynamite?

    • Bender McLugh

      only if he’s a backup would I be okay. Not sure I could watch those games. Hoyer would be tons better to watch…..

      • willbest

        See, I am of the opposite mind.

        • Bender McLugh

          Ugh is my only thought. But fear leads to anxiety

  • Big Mike

    I saw something today, the Bears have $51 million in cap space. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000788547/article/nfl-salary-cap-for-2017-season-set-at-167-million (somehow the SB champs have $59 million.. I’m guessing a lot of their own guys need to get signed)

    If they dump Cutler and Royal, that’s another $22 million, right? So $73 million in cap space. The problem is the league average is $36 million. A total of $1.1 billion in cap space.

    This might be slightly overstated, in the sense that teams have their own guys to sign and the rookie class takes up a small portion, but that’s a lot of money chasing this group of players. http://www.nfl.com/freeagency#tab=rankings Look who tops the list.. SMH..

    • Irish Sweetness

      It must be dawning on even his most ardent critics that we have zero options at QB other than Cutty. They won’t move on Kap. Cousins is tagged. Garopolo will cost too much in picks. None of the draftee QBs are ready. Cutting Cutty would be about the dumbest thing we could do right now, for me.

      Unless of course they don’t want to be competitive this year, then you just pay a joe like Hoyer.

      • MB30SD

        HOYER… HOYER… HOYER!

        Exactly! You pay a Joe like HOYER to take you to 8 wins, after you’ve fixed errathing else with a monumental draft and FA, then you sell the farm to get your ‘chise in next year’s supposedly very strong QB draft.

        Bingo! Seems super logical to me. Bueller??

        • Huge Bears Penis

          fuck hoyer.

          • MB30SD

            I know, i know.

        • leftcoastdave

          If Barkley don’t make it, win with Hoyer 12-10. (That assumes 4/6 on field goals and doesn’t require any scores by the D-fense.)

          • MB30SD

            what’s the 12-10?

      • Big Mike

        What can they get with Cutler’s $17m? I’m not going to fire up the Cutler debate. It’s well known that I don’t hate Jay Cutler. His upside is as good or better than anyone out there. His downside is as bad as anyone out there. How is that possible? It’s the nature of Cutler. You certainly don’t pay him $17 million to hold a clipboard. If you keep him you need both a ready to play back up and a guy you’re trying to develop. Can you imagine using the 3rd pick on a QB AND keeping Cutler. It’s sounds outrageous, but why not. There is almost no scenario at QB that I can’t imagine. Who the hell knows. Sign a FA, bring back Cutler, go with Hoyer, draft a QB all of the above. But you better be damn sure your answer is in there. Otherwise I don’t care about the QB spot this year. Go get me a secondary, a TE, WR, an Edge Rusher and more beef on the DL. All of those things can get done this year. Seems like a lot, but the Bears have a lot to work with. Fill a few of those in FA a few in the draft WA LA.. competitive (8-8) team in 2017. Catch a break and Kevin White’s not a turd after his injuries and Kyle Fuller can quit being a pussy, you’ve got a couple pieces you didn’t have last year.

        • willbest

          Cutler is set to be paid 12.5 million base +2.5 million active roster bonus and has $2 million of dead money.

        • leftcoastdave

          Da Bears are still high on Deondre Hall who had a bad ankle injury last year but could come out as a contender. He’s got the length and is now much further along on the learning curve. There’s also Crevon Le’Blanc who was a great pickup as a UDFA.
          The Kyle Long hit was a big bad blow but we’ll see what comes of it. Even with him out last year, the front five gelled.

          • CanadaBear

            Your idea of a great pickup and mine are much different.

          • Big Mike

            Hall, Le’Blanc are parts. Need a top top player in the secondary. OL is fine.

    • willbest

      $13 million to dump Cutler, $5 for Royal.

  • leftcoastdave

    “There is a delicate balance between being aggressive and being
    decisive, but being responsible,” Pace said. “I think you can always
    recover from the player you didn’t sign; you can’t recover from the
    player that you signed at the wrong price. I think we’ve got to be
    conscious of that.”
    Amen to that.

    • SC Dave

      I call bullshit on always being able to recover from anything.

      • leftcoastdave

        Romo not so hard but Osweiler?

        • willbest

          What was Houston’s other option at QB last year? I suppose they could have brought back Hoyer. But would that have gotten them through Atlanta? They didn’t even have Watt. Now this year, assuming Watt didn’t permanently fuck himself up trying to come back from core surgery in 2 weeks like last year, Oz presents a problem. But they also don’t have a lot of options to push for a SB win this year at the position.

          • leftcoastdave

            The point being how you explain the contracts which become an albatross around your neck.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            After this year Houston can cut Oz without a huge amount of dead money. Houston took a chance on a QB and after the first year it appears it did not work out. It would be a different story if Houston had to give up draft picks on top of it.

  • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

    Waffle –

    Glennon seems like Josh McCown’s litle brother who prefers his mousey little 5’2″ wife be cucked by Pernell McPhee while he tucks it between his legs and dances in front of the mirror like Buffalo Bill.

    Or at least that’s my impression.

    • willbest

      You made me google Glennon and McCown’s wife trying to figure out what the hell you were talking about. I don’t know why you go researching players’ wives but she is pretty short. Might peg her closer to 5’4″ than 5’2″ He is 6’6″ after all. She is attractive though.

      • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

        Oh fuck all, he’s also Sigma Nu?

        Shit. I would have to join Waffle and go into Exile.

        https://bottlegatedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/jw13.jpg?w=700&h=&crop=1

        • willbest
          • BerwynBomber

            Definitely a fame and fortune couple. No way he is pulling in that type of talent otherwise.

          • willbest

            Beauty for Resources is as old as time. You think William pulls Kate if he isn’t in line for the thrown.

            On a side note, I know a few 6′ plus women that would pike her head. They HATE it when the shorties take “their”men. Of course the 5’2″ women don’t want the 5’6” men either.

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            Throne.

            Not thrown.

          • willbest

            I do something like that in all my posts. You choose that one to call me out? Its why I double proof anything that goes out, and triple if its on my letterhead or something being signed.

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            Well that one seemed especially boneheaded, so I was doing you a favor.

          • BerwynBomber

            Prince Bill doesn’t look like he was beat with an ugly stick. Glennon does.

            And though women aren’t as visual for men, attractiveness is still pretty high on the list for them too. Big reason why physically mismatched couples are more the exception than the rule in ordinary life.

          • leftcoastdave

            “If you’ve got the money, honey, I’ve got the time . . . “

          • CanadaBear

            Bullshit. You really know nothing about women.

          • willbest

            Which part, the beauty for resources part or the part where women don’t prefer short men?

          • CanadaBear

            All of it.

          • willbest

            Now you are just being stubborn.

          • CanadaBear

            Always! I’ve gone out with women taller than me my entire life. Was I their first choice? Probably not. So what. From what I know about women (which isn’t much) they want security, someone to listen to them (not solve their problems, just listen) and usually a sense of humor. If you can provide that, you’re golden (just don’t cheat on them). Of course, they want tall, dark and handsome. Like men, they’re hardwired that way. However, smart women realize most of those guys are going to fail miserably on the holy trinity listed above. It’s the same with men and hot women but most men are too stupid to figure it out that the super hotties never had to develop a personality.

          • willbest

            Yes people compromise. I don’t think that was ever in dispute. However, if you hit up google pretty much every study comes back with a strong preference for taller men. And you are absolutely right that smarter people realize that some things they can’t do anything about and focus on maximizing the things they can do something about.

            But your attack on beautiful women seems unwarranted. Do you really think David Beckham would have stayed with Posh Spice for 18 odd years if she didn’t have a personality? Sometimes the woman has it all just like the man, and in this day and age they usually find each other. Hence the growth in assortative mating studies.

          • CanadaBear

            Posh Spice? Really?

          • willbest

            Well that is what got her famous enough to compete for Beckham.

    • Waffle

      lol

  • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

    Hey hey –

    Jeff Sessions, in addition to being an ugly little confederate fuckwad racist, is also a Manchurian Candidate.

    I guess he’s secretly for anybody who aren’t those Union Yankees.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2017/03/02/daily-202-trump-s-russia-headache-gets-worse-as-sessions-struggles-to-spin-undisclosed-meetings/58b745cae9b69b1406c75d1b/?utm_term=.7fb3ec7d1e3f

    • willbest

      I saw that last night and wondered how long it would take you to bring it up. Are you a partisan hack or just suffer from full on TDS?

      • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

        I’m a partisan hack.

        Any sort of mental deficiency is relegated to Dave and you. In fact, I think you should sue the people who made your milk powder when you were a baby.

        • SC Dave

          It seems you’ve embraced the totalitarian left/Akinsky convention of denigrating anyone that might disagree with you.

          Congratulations, it’s so persuasive.

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            I’ve long long long since concluded that there is no persuasion left in this country. It’s past that time. Now it’s pick what side you are on time.

            Trac Pac Sauron ain’t wrong. There’s an east wind blowing in this nation. Violence is on the way.

          • willbest

            early to mid 2030’s is my guess for Civil War 2, unless the neocons start WW3 before then.

            Another reason climate change is on the back burner. This seems far more pressing than whether the planet will be 2F or 6F warmers in 100 years. Also, wiping out 2/3rds the planets population and triggering a nuclear winter will solve that problem too.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, if Dems are smart they will oppose everything from Trump, McConnell and Ryan. Nothing to be gained politically from bi-partisanship anymore.

          • willbest

            There is something to be said about not looking crazy when you are opposing someone though.

          • BerwynBomber

            Don’t know about that. GOP looked batshit crazy to me in, at least, half of their opposition the last six years and have been rewarded very well at the polls. Oppositional anger sells.

          • leftcoastdave

            The only violence I see is in the inner cities of cities run by Dumbocrats for decades or the fascists attacking the President or voices on campus they want silenced.
            Eric the Red and Barry-O did a great job creating BLM and now we have the Ferguson effect where cops think twice before acting, and for good reason.
            Violence in Chiraq is doing what as I type?

    • willbest

      Wherein a democrat learns the internet is forever

      https://twitter.com/charlescwcooke/status/837303885664563200

    • leftcoastdave

      Yep. Joe sixpack who voted for Barry-o twice in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Iowa was duped by them Rooskies into . . . gee, I forgot. But it sure has the fingerprints of them Rooskies all over it.
      I mean after all, Clint Jong Hill was such a great advocate for women, bimbo eruptions aside, and had done such a fabulous job in the Middle East, but for that damn YouTube video.
      She was even smart enough to have her own private server which she could bleach to hide the evidence of her pay for play.
      But of course, there’s no evidence there of that, Sid Blumenthal who was on the payroll and Uma, Weiner’s wife (how good is that) won’t talk.
      Funny how the money spigot has been turned off, though.

    • beninnorcal

      He seems like a real cunt.

  • BearDown100393

    Fluid.
    Like urine.

    • beninnorcal

      lol

  • willbest

    Krazy Kim’s half brother has now died of a heart attack owing to not having his medication. Best assassination evah.

    • BerwynBomber

      You mean the guy that was poisoned? That was some days ago wasn’t it?

  • BerwynBomber

    Kap’s gonna stand next year for the anthem. Trump must have got him in line. Or free agency.

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18805744/colin-kaepernick-stand-national-anthem-next-season

    • BearDown100393

      Means he found a job. With a condition.

  • Zap Rowsdower (GP)
    • willbest

      Its the most exclusive club in the world.

    • CanadaBear

      From the photos it looks like she’s kind of mothering him. There’s no doubt in my mind W would be good for some laughs.

    • beninnorcal

      I was never a fan of W as a president, but he seemed like a likeable dude.

  • BerwynBomber

    TEN signs Cassel to an extension, which kills my longshot idea of Cutty returning “home” to back-up Mariota.

    • willbest

      I didn’t even realize he was still in the league.

    • Johnnywad

      Man that dude has made more money per football game played than anybody. Crazy. He didn’t even play much in college.

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