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Saturday Night Should Be Glennon’s Last Chance

| August 17th, 2017

The preseason is meaningless.

Mostly.

There is one exception to this rule: when a team finds itself embroiled in a quarterback “controversy”. And the Bears, especially after the events of last week, now find themselves firmly in the midst of a battle at the most important position in all of sports.

From Rick Telander in the Chicago Sun-Times:

Now make Trubisky the starting quarterback.

Yes, he’s only 22 and started only 13 college games at North Carolina. And the NFL is mean and vicious and eats its young.

Again, so what? Life is hard and then you die. Maybe you’ve heard.

Trubisky ran a 4.67-second 40-yard dash at the NFL combine — the same as athletic Clemson quarterback Deshaun Watson — and his feet never will be faster than they are now. His arm is a cannon.

This is not news around these parts. No one lurking in Media Meadow or strolling down Blog Boulevard has been as steadfast when it comes to what the Bears should do at quarterback, starting week one, starting against the defending conference champions. When the team boldly traded up and selected Mitch Trubisky in April, Trubisky immediately became the best quarterback on their roster. And there was nothing to debate.

Trubisky is a wow talent. Mike Glennon, the incumbent starter due to a hefty one-year paycheck and limited alternatives, is not. I’ve been prone to saying “Glennon stinks”. Maybe that’s my pithy way of saying, well, no, Glennon does in fact stink.

The reason last Thursday night turned heads is because – quite frankly – many had never seen Glennon or Trubisky play in pads before. Forget the results. Forget the dropped passes. Forget the drive outcomes. When one objectively looked at the two men playing quarterback the contrast was stark and dramatic. One is the quintessential modern quarterback, big, strong and mobile, with an arm immediately placing him in the top tier of the league’s throwers. The other is an immobile statue with the kind of arm that will keep him in the league (and on a bench) for the next decade. It’s also the reason he’s barely thrown a professional pass in the last two calendar years.

Saturday night should be Glennon’s last chance. If The Giraffe doesn’t look poised and in control, doesn’t take the offense up and down the field, doesn’t wildly improve on his dismal performance of a week ago, the Bears should start Mitch Trubisky in their third preseason game and begin preparing him to start in September. (The Bears should do this anyway but it doesn’t seem like they’re moving in that direction yet.)

What Trubisky does with his backup battalion shouldn’t matter. Trubisky is going to make mistakes and he’s going to make them all season long. That is what happens to every rookie walking into this position. Saturday night in Arizona is not about Trubisky. It’s about Glennon.

It’s also about entertainment value and the Bears need to recognize that. Trubisky under center on opening day will be a white line up the nostrils of the 2017 season. It immediately makes things more fun. Will the Bears be willing to forgo that enjoyment to give Glennon a bunch of meaningless starts while the future stands on the sideline and watches?

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  • SC Dave

    (Not sure what happened, but I *thought* I was composing this and left off in the middle. But there are two upvotes, so…)

    This is not the first time the meaning of preseason has changed.

    Edit: “If The Giraffe doesn’t look poised and in control, doesn’t take the offense up and down the field, doesn’t wildly improve on his dismal performance of a week ago, the Bears should start Mitch Trubisky in their third preseason game and begin preparing him to start in September. (The Bears should do this anyway but it doesn’t seem like they’re moving in that direction yet.)”

    “poised and in control” and “doesn’t wildly improve on his dismal performance” are reasonable. “take the offense up and down the field” is not solely Glennon’s responsibility.

  • King of DBB

    Last chance for QB Mike
    His jello arm we do not like
    He looks like Charles Dickens Smike
    Like a giraffe riding a bike

    You birches woke up today saying “day umm I need a Nicholas Nickelby reference today.”

    Well GP delivers.

    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      haha, love the guest vote.

    • fishing florida

      really poor.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I have been reading Henry Miller exclusively on my four train rides everyday. I’d like to read them all before the old boat is called in. Just finished his travelogue of America in 1939, The Air-Conditioned Nightmare. A good read, that gave the general impression that America looks very much like a place where things are manufactured, and out of balance with nature. And that was before America entered the war. It would be more interesting to you lot, though, having a modern perspective.

      “We are accustomed to think of ourselves as an emancipated people; we say that we are democratic, liberty-loving, free of prejudices and hatred. This is the melting-pot, the seat of a great human experiment. Beautiful words, full of noble, idealistic sentiment. Actually we are a vulgar, pushing mob whose passions are easily mobilized by demagogues, newspaper men, religious quacks, agitators and such like. To call this a society of free peoples is blasphemous. What have we to offer the world beside the superabundant loot which we recklessly plunder from the earth under the maniacal delusion that this insane activity represents progress and enlightenment? The land of opportunity has become the land of senseless sweat and struggle. The goal of all our striving has long been forgotten. We no longer wish to succor the oppressed and homeless; there is no room in this great, empty land for those who, like our forefathers before us, now seek a place of refuge. Millions of men and women are, or were until very recently, on relief, condemned like guinea pigs to a life of forced idleness. The world meanwhile looks to us with a desperation such as it has never known before. Where is the democratic spirit? Where are the leaders?”

      ― Henry Miller, The Air-Conditioned Nightmare

      … drips like honey doesn’t it ? ….

      “I had the misfortune to be nourished by the dreams and visions of great Americans — the poets and seers. Some other breed of man has won out. This world which is in the making fills me with dread. I have seen it germinate; I can read it like a blueprint. It is not a world I want to live in. It is a world suited for monomaniacs obsessed with the idea of progress — but a false progress, a progress which stinks. It is a world cluttered with useless objects which men and women, in order to be exploited and degraded, are taught to regard as useful. The dreamer whose dreams are non-utilitarian has no place in this world. Whatever does not lend itself to being bought and sold, whether in the realm of things, ideas, principles, dreams or hopes, is debarred. In this world the poet is anathema, the thinker a fool, the artist an escapist, the man of vision a criminal.”
      ― Henry Miller, The Air-Conditioned Nightmare

  • CanadaBear

    Preseason is meaningless until I say it isn’t. Hmmm. Glennon should march up and down the field with the O (even though the entire first string O is getting beat up on the line and the WR’s are completely interchangeable not in a good way). And it doesn’t make any difference what MT does? WTF? And when you say start him for entertainment value, again, WTF?

    I get chasing clicks but this is just hooey.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      If Glennon can’t march up and down the field with the first team O, why not see what MT can do with the first team O? MT has intangibles that Glennon does not, let see if he can transfer that to the field. As far as entertainment value I agree with Jeff. I would be more entertained watching a rookie working through the issues of learning to be a NFL QB, than an average QB just doing a ho hum job of running the offense. Last year we had to suffer through watching Hoyer efficiently run an offense and racking up lots of yards, but it was easy to see that Hoyer did not have what it takes to take a team to the next level. From what I have seen of Glennon in the NFL he does not have that ability either.

      • willbest

        Why would you want to Luck, Mitch Trubisky? Let Glennon die behind that oline.

        And holy hell, I can’t believe I want to spend our first rounder next season on the o-line. Our D still needs so much work, but I want a 15 year starter. Not some kid we guaranteed $80 million to and can’t start the next season.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          our Oline is no where near as bad as Indy’s has been, and we have a running game, something Indy never had.

          • willbest

            Glennon was hit on over 1/3rd of his drop backs. I know the preseason is meaningless unless Jeff hates you, but that is the group that needs to demonstrate it has something this week.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            TBH, I was on the vacation during the 1st PS game so I was not able to watch as intently on Glennon’s or the first teams Olines performance. I only saw the “highlights” of Glennon’s performance, which was not pretty. I will be watching more closely this week,

          • willbest

            It was ugly. WRs dropped 3 passes that hit them in the hands from Glennon. Howard ran into a wall twice, and Glennon was hit a bunch of times. The INT was on him though, he shouldn’t have attempted that throw. Fox wasn’t wrong when he called out the entire first string offense. He wasn’t doing it to protect Glennon.

          • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

            to be fair, that Meredith throw was behind him. If Cutty throws that pass guys jump on that ball placement. Me? I simply point out that Cam Meredith is a quarterback so what did you expect?

          • The 1st team Oline got NO push, in the run or pass.

            Granted, it was ONLY the 1st PS game, Compton was new, Oline takes longer to gel, and the Broncos have a top #3 D, but still, they looked awful enough to raise a flag.

          • willbest

            I kid Jeff about it, but it explains a lot of Jeff’s attitude. We watched 1.5 quarters of brutal awfulness followed, by a brief interlude of nothingness in Sanchez, and then Trubisky comes out walking on water with signs of Rodgers like mobility, accuracy and field of vision.

            Never mind the play calling was different, the talent on the field was different, and the objectives of the coaches in each situation was different.

          • Yeah, but gotta say, Trub did seem to bring a certain energy to the O regardless of anything else. Maybe it was the 1st QB drafted buzz, but it was palpable to me.

            Can’t discard that factor.

            Trub will ride that cocaine bump till he crashes hard and wakes bloody and hungover on a beach after having to please men for $

            https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/0*2QMKwar1flcuovmm.jpg

          • CanadaBear

            I thought it was going to be Gene Wilder drinking Woolite after Daisy the Sheep left him!

          • Irish Sweetness

            Wouldn’t YOU? She was a dame.

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        Are people really confident enough with our O-line to start Trubisky against Atlanta who only lost the Super Bowl because of shitty 4th quarter coaching?

        I’m not.

    • leftcoastdave

      What, you are laying off the white lines?

      • Irish Sweetness

        Grandmaster Melle Mel. Ai’ight?

  • Bears-4-Ever

    Glennon will start come the season opener no matter how well the kid performs in pre-season and how bad Glennon does.. Why? Because the Bears always seem to do the wrong thing at the right time. If it cost us money we’re doing it…but he stinks…who cares we paid him…but the kid could start and we could win…to bad it makes too much sense to start him so we just can’t…

  • leftcoastdave

    I would hope and actually believe that this game is about much more than just how Mike Glennon performs. I love seeing Mitch do what he did, but there is much more learning to be done by him in reading Ds as well as the Oline getting it together to keep whoever is back there alive.

    I think the biggest story will be what happens at LG. Will Grassu start at C and Whitehair at LG? That is what I am hoping to see. (Not to mention Leno playing from the first snap.) Will Sitton take over at RG and will we see both pass protection as well as the ability to move the ball in the trenches?

    That is the big story this week. The O line.

    • I agree about LG. It suddenly becomes a point of focus, esp after Data and SC(?) showed us the visual of the Bears struggling inside relative to outside runs.

      HOWEVER, as many on here know, I think LGs are sorta a dime a dozen. They often work with the C against NTs (not premier DTs).

      That’s one of the reasons I originally didn’t like the Long draft pick. OGs in general can be plugged in, but at that time we desperately needed elite talent, and he was projected at RG and even possibly OT, much more important positions.

      We got Slausen, Kush and even Larsen off the streets, and they all performed decently.
      We also signed SItton, though that was lucky.

      So while I raise a Spock eyebrow with LG, I’m not as concerned about it as other positions (say, Dline/CB)

      Pace has found 2-3 quality OGs in the past 2 seasons, (more if you consider Whitehair), so I have a bit more faith in him there.

      I also feel like the Birdcage O is OG friendly, if that’s even possible.

    • SC Dave

      This. This. This.

      The offensive line is alleged to be a strength of this team, and they were AWFUL against the Broncos #1s. This is, of course, not news to anyone that actually watched the game and reported on it without a specific agenda to promote.

    • Irish Sweetness

      My bruthafromanuthamutha. Das my line. Long be done, yo.

      etc.,

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Bringing this comment to the current thread. In response to leftcoastdave saying he had hoped we went the Houston route of building a team then getting the QB. “Build it and they will come” mentality

    In theory it makes sense, but it rarely works in the real world. Houston has had a damn good team for like 3 years and they are still trying to find a QB. Denver had an all world D, decent Offensive talent and lucked into Manning becoming available, and are now still struggling to find a QB. There are teams each year that you can look at and say all they need is a QB. QBs are hard to find, so when you don’t have one you should not sit back and say well our team needs these other positions, lets wait on taking chances on a QB, the most important position on the field.

    The problem I see is that teams that just need a QB don’t win just 3 games a year giving them a high draft pick. So those teams have to strike gold with a Wilson or Prescott in later rounds of the draft, or mortgage the future by trading away a lot of high draft picks to go get the prize QB.

    • willbest

      I think you aren’t exactly remembering Denver. Manning was actually one of the early pieces Elway acquired not one of the latter.

      The offense was ready for a QB in 2012 with DT, JT, Decker, and a solid line anchored by pro-bowler Clady (no RB though which doesn’t matter for Manning), but the D was shit. They basically road Manning in 2012 and 2013. Malik Jackson and Trevathan were flier prospects in round 5 and 6 in the 2012 draft, which was after Manning was signed. They had Von Miller who was DROY the year before, but it all came together in Manning’s 3rd year when Elway added all that crazy FA talent after the embarrassment in the 2013 SB.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        my bad on the Denver example, however it does hold up currently. They just need a QB, and they don’t have one.

        • Yeah, but it’s a good point about teams being a “QB away” to make a run rarely being in striking distance of the top QB in the draft.

          Teams with good rosters and “meh” QBs typically finish outside the top 10.

          We should know. How many times did we not suck enough during the Lovie era only to watch other teams land their franchise?

          (while also not being good enough to win it all)

          A lot of times such teams must get extremely lucky (like with Peyton) or hope they find a later rd guy like Dalton.

          That’s why the Texans and even Chiefs were so aggressive this past draft.

          And the Cards will be soon to follow.

        • Irish Sweetness

          They could have called me for the #3 pick, Penis.

    • leftcoastdave

      I totally agree and my “vision” for the draft was predicated upon the false assumption that Pace could sell the three pick for multiple 2s, 3’s or 4’s. And on what had been the popular notion that the QBs in this years draft were sub standard. Clearly both assumptions were wrong as the play of the QBs selected is bearing out.
      I wanted to see Pace draft C.J. Beathard whom the 9ers took in the third or fourth. But Pace clearly chose to pay what was needed for Mitch and I think it was a great move.
      He added great depth to the team D, witness the dominance of the 2s and 3s against Denver and now gives the team a shot against any team in the league.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        TBH, I think we have all been guilty of having your same “vision” at some point in our fandom.

        • SC Dave

          I know you might not believe this, but I honestly cannot think of a time when I wanted us to trade down.

    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      I see what you’re saying but the Texans chose to bring in Osweiler after he had already proven that he was underwhelming in Denver. That is bad management and not necessarily further proof that the concept of putting a talented and smooth younger player on a strong team is a risky move.
      I still shake my head at the Osweiler signing by the Texans.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        that’s what you get when a team is scrambling to find its QB. I shook my head when we signed Glennon. But we were smart enough to make draft pick as a backup plan.

        • SC Dave

          Or, perhaps more to Pace’s thinking, sign Glennon as a backup plan.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            yeah I viewed the signing of Glennon as nothing more than a stop gap especially since his contract was really just a one year deal.

          • SC Dave

            Not sure a stop gap. Just another competitor. And if Glennon somehow became better than average or crazy good, two more years at next to nothing.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Paying him more than 10M was unneccesary. Kap was available.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Pace, in fairness, not “we”.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            why not say “we”? you act like it is your own $18m that Pace gave him.

      • Irish Sweetness

        That’s just a dumb c**t in charge of personnel, pardon my French, but there it is. Osweiler was a peon at Denver. You don’t hire a peon.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Lucked into Manning? Wasn’t he the worst QB in the NFL?

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        just coming off injury. He wasnt the worst until his last year and that was injury related also.

  • willbest

    I heard a rumor that Glennon moonlights as a confederate monument.

    The only QB controversy right now is if Sanchez gets cut after the 3rd or 4th preseason game. Maybe if Mitch Trubisky does against the 2s what he did against the 3s and 4s last week, and Glennon is still plodding along, we will have to genuinely consider who starts in the dress rehearsal, but Glennon hasn’t sucked enough, for me, to want Mitch to be out there before he has full command of the playbook.

    • EnderWiggin

      I’m not convinced. I think the Bears are more likely to cut Glennon. They know exactly what they have with Dirty Sanchez, and they proved it giving him only one or two series.
      The Bears would also probably feel like they are doing Glennon a favor by cutting him. He’d have options of other teams that may need a potential starter in the mix or just sitting on the beach making big $.

      • SC Dave

        I really doubt it. Especially after he goes 18 for 20 on Saturday.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Saturday? When Floyd goes to sleep and 49-1? Oh, that’s the Saturday after ……

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            at least you are consistent. You see a nothing QB throw to 5th stringers and has beens and think they can play. Now you see Conner spar with a has been and think he can box.

  • “Saturday night should be Glennon’s last chance. If The Giraffe doesn’t look poised and in control, doesn’t take the offense up and down the field, doesn’t wildly improve on his dismal performance of a week ago, then Bears should start Mitch Trubisky” – Jeff

    So PS games are meaningful now, Jeff?

    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      I think Jeff did agree that PS games are meaningful with the drafting of Trubisky. Meaningful in that they allow for a testing ground for the youngster.

      • SC Dave

        I think Jeff agreed that preseason games were meaningful when they advanced his narrative. Even ephemerally.

  • King of DBB

    You boys should watch Hard Knocks on HBO

    The Bucs cut the kicker they drafted in the 2nd round. He was shit.

    But in practice, this one giant DT would harass the fucker. He literally would stand right behind him as he worked on kicks at practice.

    “you ain’t shit. this is going wide left, I guarantee it. You couldn’t make a chipshot, you suck.”
    (misses kick)
    “See? I told you so. He is worthless, totally worthless.”

    He rattled the guy. Bad.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      You can’t be easily rattled as a kicker, it’s a good thing we signed him.

    • You know who else is struggling?

      Gotskowski.

      https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/patriots/2016/10/13/why-patriots-kicker-stephen-gostkowski-struggling/Dex0FojBApQNJy7VSunaLP/story.html

      I think Jeff likes kickers cuz it’s the closest to golf players as there is in football.
      You have to have the mechanics, leg, and snapper, but a lot of it is mental, just you and the green and 8 feet on the final hole.

      I always trip out on how some could lose it suddenly (like Gould). Like a batter in a slump.

      Also, that probably wasn’t the best method to rebuild his self-esteem. Maybe build it up first, then when he pulls up in a McLaren, hire a fat bastard to ride him.

      • willbest

        Crosby went through a slump. Grimus kept with him and he rebounded the following year.

        Its sort of like free throws in the NBA. I can’t figure out why 95% isn’t the norm. Its got to be mental.

        • Some dudes just can’t hit free throws. I remember Shaq trying all kinds of shit, I think he even tried under hand grandma free throw

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrW0-Xzz9P4

          I think the bigger guys have trouble with freethrows because the ball is so small in their hands thus harder to control consistently.

          Like, I was a 90% FT shooter, but if I picked up like a nerf Bball and shot freethrows on one of those kid rims, I pretty much became Shaq.

          But as for kicks, DEF mental.

          As someone else said, The Yips.

        • SC Dave

          Fatigue, will. I imagine many NBA players shoot free throws a lot better in practice than in the game.

        • AlbertInTucson

          “50% of this game is 90% mental.” – Yogi.

      • Jokey

        Article highlights:

        “By Football Outsiders’ analysis, which factors in distance and environmental factors such as weather and altitude, the New England field goal/extra point unit has cost the team more than all but four others in the league. Only Tampa Bay’s Roberto Aguayo, the Browns’ kicker committee, Minnesota’s Blair Walsh, and Chicago’s Connor Barth have been worse.”

        So now we have 2 of the 4 worst kickers.

        • willbest

          We are the best at being the worst!

          • Corporal Clott

            Ahem…. if I may will? We “were” the best at being the worst!

    • beninnorcal

      Funny, was just watching that last night and noticed that exact same thing. I’m rooting for the guy.
      But did they really spend a 2nd round pic on him?

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis
    • willbest

      I suspect that attitude, is well received by vets. Now he just needs to stop annoying Chicago sports fans by saying stupid things.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        what stupid things has he been saying? FYI serious inquiry, cuz I don’t know.

        • willbest

          LeBron James over Jordan. His love for Aaron Rodgers.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            was he even born when Jordan was playing? oh no, he loves one of the greatest QBs playing right now. Sounds to me some Chicago Sports fans are a little sensitive and should not get their panties in a bunch over what a 22 yr old says.

          • Scharfinator

            Right, but the fact that the Chicago market DOES act like that means he should just play his cards appropriately.

            He can love Rodgers and Lebron all he wants, just don’t tell the meatballs about it.

          • willbest

            He should come out against deep dish pizza

          • Scharfinator

            “Ditka can go choke on one of your nasty ass pizzas, if the Italian beef doesn’t stop his heart first”

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I honestly thought you were going to say he said some really stupid shit like the Earth is flat, the Holocaust didn’t happen or the Chicago PD has never done anything wrong. Not sports related drivel.

          • willbest

            I did limit it to Chicago sports fans.

            I do love him proving the Internet is forever as I will remember him as the Bears QB that loves to kiss titties thanks to a tweet he made when he was 16.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            well who doesn’t like kiss titties.

          • Johnnywad

            If the kid turns out to be REALLY good, and avoids saying things to alienate the middle class fan, he will OWN Chicago for the remainder of his life. Steakhouses and car dealerships as far as the eye can see.

          • willbest

            He can be a goof, or not media savvy as long as he isn’t an ass and get that treatment if he hoists a lombardi trophy. He would just be our knucklehead.

          • Corporal Clott

            Timing is everything and Trubinsky is a next generation figure andJordan is old news to most of them. 10 years ago, Chicagoans might would have made him pay for preferring another player over Jordan. Maybe it was payback for all the meatheads that booed him at the draft? I don’t really care if a player has an opinion on other athletes, all I care about is whether or not he’ll be a good quarterback.

          • CanadaBear

            Not to mention Jordan isn’t exactly Mr Wonderful. Somehow that always plays into it. Like you, who cares? Hope the kid is the real deal. So far, so good!

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog Oddly, if Brian Hoyer were Bears QB, fans would be 100% behind playing Trubisky from day one. And Hoyer is BETTER than Glennon.”

    Hoyer’s better based on what? One preseason game?

    We simply don’t know if Hoyer is better than Glennon yet. In fact, if anything the evidence suggests the opposite.

    Hoyer’s first full year as an NFL starter he posted a 77 PR. Glennon posted an 84. Moreover, Glennon posted his as a rookie. Hoyer posted his in his sixth year in the league. (And they both played for shitty teams.)

    Generally, any QB with a decent sample size as QB will improve over his first year numbers. There are exceptions, of course. In fact one of the most remarkable ones is Jay Cutler who was slightly better as a rookie than his average for the rest of 10+ years as a starter. But Jay’s case, I’m betting, is extremely rare for a guy with such a huge sample size as a starter.

    It is understandable why Pace decided to take a chance with the costlier Glennon than the more affordable Hoyer. Odds are Glennon will be better. Of course there is no guarantee. Hoyer might indeed prove the better QB, but again odds would indicate it will be Glennon.

    Hoyer just had the good fortune of being on teams where the HC wasn’t in love with “one of his guys” (McCown) and drafting Jameis Winston with the #1 overall pick in the draft after his second year in the league.

    P.S. There are strong arguments to be made for starting Trisky in W1. But making premature, silly statements about Glennon isn’t really one of them.

    • CanadaBear

      Not to mention, if Pace resigned Hoyer the rest of the league would have assumed he was going QB in the first rd.

      • BerwynBomber

        I’m fine with the Trisky should start day 1 argument in and of itself. (Never bought into the Aaron Rodgers wouldn’t be Rodgers today if he started as a rookie jazz — great QBs suffer awful rookie years/growing pains all the time. The only reason Rodgers sat was because he had a HoF QB in front of him).

        But illogically bashing Glennon to further the argument seems unnecessary. And to be honest, already knowing that Trisky is the future, I’d like to see what we have in the Stork. Especially when I doubt a rookie would be leading us to the SB this year anyway.

        • CanadaBear

          That’s pretty much where I’m at. If Glennon shits the bed in real games, by all means put in MT whenever the coaches deem him ready. I could see Glennon playing decently (not great but not a lot of TO’s) and the Beloved being 1-7 at the break. I have no faith in Foxy but I think Loggains will have a good handle on when MT is ready.

  • Corporal Clott

    Jeffrey, you Sur….. are hilary-ous. When you have to start announcing exceptions to the rule, you’ve lost the “meaningless game” argument. Hahahaha.

    I needed that, best laugh I’ve had in a while.

  • CRAZYBEARNORTH48

    I’ve never been to Chicago or to soldier field but thats all changing this Nov. .bring the fucking packers. ..I’m about to finish my chemotherapy n radiation therapy n the trip to chi town is in order. .boom. .boom….
    I’ll need some tips on places to check out an drink lol I’m there for the weekend. .bucklist ..
    GO BEARS

    • Bender McLugh

      awesome, congrats. Hit Lou Malnatis for deep dish. Check out The Metro for good live music, and if you are into jazz hit The Green Mill. enjoy!

      • Bender McLugh

        also for blues I suggest Kingston Mines & Buddy Guy’s Legends

    • CanadaBear

      Congrats, man! Haven’t been to the “new” stadium. Apparently the site lines can be good if you have good seats. Hope ya bring home a winner!

    • King of DBB

      fight the good fight. hang in there.

    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      Keep fighting man! Jameson + Polish Sausages + Trubisky = Recovery and Rejuvenation

    • Corporal Clott

      Think about becoming a vegetarian, and moving to Washington State. The only thing I haven’t done yet is move to Washington. Hope you recover well my man.

      • SC Dave

        Up vote big time on the recovery thing

    • You go man!

      None of you locals gonna take him to do a rail off a stripper’s ass while another blows him in bears lingerie?!

      C’mon Chicagoans, don’t let us down!

      #PucktheFack

      • fishing florida

        5 year old.

    • SC Dave

      Cancer sucks. Kick its ass!

  • King of DBB

    Not a Bimmer guy at all, but that new Z4 roadster is excellent

    https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/i3kkRD6YV_As/v0/-1x-1.jpg

    • Corporal Clott

      You seem more like the Vulva type GP. Am I wrong? Hee hee

  • Joecashflow

    I am just finishing 4 hour holiday beers in Bavarian Alps and tuning into Ravens flagship radio to hear Miami game and Cutler play. Who else gives a s…? I care about the guy and hope this is a redemption year and he leaves on a high note. Cant get Miami feed. Will keep trying.

    • Joecashflow

      Game starts at 1am here in Germany

    • SC Dave

      It would not upset me in any way if Cutler has a great year. Unless it culminates in Miami beating us in the Super Bowl.

  • Corporal Clott

    “I want to be the handsomest man on earth but I drink 50 beers a week. Mike Glennon isn’t going to be a starter because he isn’t good enough.” Jeff.

    It’s a dam good thing Jeff observes the Sabath. Lol

    • willbest

      Remember, its not binge drinking if you do it every day.

    • Cormonster

      50? That ain’t shit. When I quit cold turkey, I was easily drinking over 200 a week, and that doesn’t include the hard liquor.

      It’s amazing how fast and how much weight one loses when they instantly drop over 60,000 calories from their diet every month.

      • willbest

        You were drinking 30 beers a day? damn. I don’t even drink that much liquid.

        • Cormonster

          Yeah, I was out of control for about 5 years. It was hard work drinking that much beer everyday.

      • CanadaBear

        It helps that you burn up a shit pile of cals working!

        • Cormonster

          This time of year I have to consciously make sure that I keep weight on. I do this by eating a shitload of ice cream.

      • Corporal Clott

        There’s a big difference between pints of Guinness Stout and warm cans of weak ass old style. Lol

        • SC Dave

          You’re right. Old Style has more alcohol.

          Guinness isn’t boozier than most other beers. In fact, it contains less alcohol by volume than a typical draught. An average beer contains 5% ABV, while Guinness clocks in at just 4.2%.

          Old Style
          Brewed by: Pabst Brewing Company
          Style: American Adjunct Lager
          Alcohol by volume (ABV): 4.64%

          Facts are stubborn things.

          • Corporal Clott

            Drinking Guinness is like drinking Cod liver oil. Yuk

          • SC Dave

            It really is not good.

      • SC Dave

        I call bullshit. 200 a week is, what, 27 a day.

        Bullshit.

        • BuddhaJoe

          I’ve seen plenty of guys do that, if it’s shit like Busch Light. Hell, my fiance used to drink a fifth of vodka every night and that probably has almost as much alcohol. And she’s small.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          I believe it. I owned a bar and had customers that would sit and drink a 12 pack then get a 12 pack to go every day.

        • Cormonster

          Sadly it is true. I bought a 30 pack every day for at least 5 years of Bud Light / Busch Light / Milwaukee’s Best, and I almost never ate until I was done drinking. Would mix in some Whiskey, Vodka, or Tequila usually on the weekends.

          • Dang, that’s crazy, Corm.

            Glad you got over that shit. One of my neighbors drank a fifth of Vodka every day. He was retired, and that’s all he would do. Couldn’t even afford the chaser. Used to come over and ask if I had extra soda, so I gave him some cokes and such. Figure, I’m not gonna change him, so might as well let him enjoy it a bit more.

            He died obviously, and no one even found his body for like 5 days.

            If you don’t mind me asking, how did you just stop cold turkey?

            I know someone who’s heading that way.

            He doesn’t drink every day, but what he does is go on crazy binges where he can drink cases (but really, whatever he can get his hands on).

            Did ppl help you, or one day did you decide, “fuck this”? did you go to AA or anything?

            If you don’t wanna say, that’s cool. Just curious if I can do anything for the dude.

            DOn’t want him to go out like my old neighbor.

          • Cormonster

            I don’t mind talking about it, but I’ll save it for another day. Some of it is pretty personal stuff and may take some time to write it out. Just from my experience, the only other people who truly understand what it’s like are other people who were in the same position. Not just other alcoholics, but anyone who’s had severe substance abuse issues. Being supportive and talking to the person about it can help, but first and foremost the person has to want to quit. If they don’t want to quit, I don’t think anything will get them to quit. Most of the people I know who quit had to hit rock bottom first, and that’s different for everyone.

          • Yeah, I hear ya.
            Unfortunately I know someone who ODed the other day.
            So young, only like 23.
            Saw it coming from a mile a way, but couldn’t do anything about.
            And it leaves the survivors not just grieving, but a little pissed mixed with guilt.

            What you said I think that’s what Robert Downey Jr echoed, that the hardest part for addict is to DECIDE to quit. After that, everything rolls down hill, but a person must change from within first.

            Just hope he recovers.

          • Cormonster

            Sorry to hear about the person who ODed. Those are almost always tragic situations. Hopefully your friend will decide to quit at some point, sooner rather than later.

          • CanadaBear

            Same with me. I couldn’t hold my booze at all. Part of it is my size but part of it was just no tolerance for alcohol. My dad drank a 1.75 of Gordon’s Gin every two days for most of my life. That didn’t include what he drank at lunch (he would go to his favorite watering hole every day for lunch and drink a few bowls of olive soup). He never did quit and made it to 70. The only thing that saved him was he always ate. When you see a skinny drunk, they aren’t eating and the booze will kill them much faster.

            I knew I had to quit for the last year or so when I was still drinking. Waking up in jail, getting chained up with about a dozen guys in orange jumpsuits to go to video court and then sitting in a holding cell with about 10 guys who were all innocent (or not), was it for me. Nothing wrong with drinking if you can handle it. I couldn’t.

          • SC Dave

            Wow. Glad you’re done with that shit.

        • CanadaBear

          Just because you can’t do it Dave doesn’t mean that it can’t be done.

  • EnderWiggin

    Does Booger Sugar really make everything better? I’ve never partaken – I get paranoid just thinking about it.

    • Bender McLugh

      Yes and no, sometimes on that order

      • I think it’s like weed.
        Some ppl get paranoid off it, most don’t.

        Then again, some ppl just wanna fight when they get drunk, so everything has its drawback.

        • Bender McLugh

          True story. Can’t wait for legal weed though, many different strains that have many different effects. Experiments ahead!

          • CanadaBear

            EDIBLES!

          • BuddhaJoe

            Ugh, I smoked a ton for 15 years but could never do edibles. Fucked me up something fierce.

          • CanadaBear

            Start low and add if needed. They have cookies that are 5 mg. They just make everyone laugh a lot. Go from there. Everything is labeled these days so it’s pretty easy to keep track so you don’t get pinned to the couch. Still smoke but edibles are easier on the lungs. Not to mention, usually edibles are more of a body stone than a head stone. You’re still fucked up but it’s not like one of the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers looking at his wallet and exclaiming, “What the fuck’s my name?”.

          • BuddhaJoe

            Tried all that a few times, I just ended up dizzy and paranoid no matter what. I’m not sure why since I could smoke a blunt solo and never get that bad. Figure it’s just not my thing.

            Not as bad as shrooms though, that shit just made me huddle in a corner.

          • Maybe you need to take up bowling

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z92bykaeV4o

          • BuddhaJoe

            Obviously you’re not a golfer.

          • CanadaBear

            My favorite part of the movie! When Bridges did the scene where he went under the girls in the short skirts, all the girls were wearing panties with a LOT of pubies sticking out everywhere! Gotta love the Cohen Bros!

            http://thechive.com/2014/07/23/jeff-bridges-the-photographer-34-hq-photos/

          • CanadaBear

            We definitely have different systems!!!!!!!!!! Shrooms … WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Just got back from Oregon, I had to take a little shopping spree. They had about 20 different strains all setup in a shop like a fricken jewelry store. It was a little odd experience.

          • CanadaBear

            I stopped at one in WA a while ago and after buying a bunch of stuff I said to the young man, “In the old days we’d fire one up and have some laughs after transacting business”. It made him really uncomfortable so I didn’t say any more silly shit.

    • It doesn’t make you paranoid.
      Honestly, it might be the ‘best’ of illegal drugs in that

      1. It’s relatively natural compared to all that shit they put into X, meth, etc
      2. You can sleep on it if you’re tired
      3. It’s mostly used as a complement. In other words, if you’re drinking, it helps you drink and not pass out by 2am or whatever.
      4. You don’t really crash on it, and you don’t have “bad trips” or start hallucinating or chop off your own penis or anything crazy like that.
      5. Certain women, ESP strippers, LOVE that shit. You wanna get the “champagne” treatment next time you’re at a stripbar, casually mention you may have some.

      ….ALLEGEDLY….

      This PSA brought to you by Columbia.

      edit. Needless to say, if you have an addictive personality, DON’T do shit!

      Do poon, like MB.

      • BuddhaJoe

        You can sleep on it? Not sure about that, my “friend” says just the opposite.

        • I know ppl who can.
          Doesn’t keep a person up for 3 days like meth. And doesn’t turn you into a goblin either.
          Obviously, no one’s gonna do a line then go to sleep. It’s usually followed by partying until your body kinda just crashes.

    • BuddhaJoe

      Huh? Never heard it called that before.

    • CanadaBear

      I’m one of the lucky ones and all it did for me was act like crappy speed that you had to keep bumping. Trust me, I’ve had high quality stuff before and it just doesn’t affect me the way it does other people. For some people, they get euphoric on it. Unfortunately for them, they will chase that high. For me it was expensive and I haven’t done speed since the 70’s so that wasn’t a real selling point. The only people that can sleep on that stuff either had some downers on them, drank a shit pile of booze or they do waaaaay too much of it. Keep in mind what Robin Williams said about it, “it eats the membranes in your wallet”.

      • haha, never heard that Williams quote. It is more expensive than other drugs.

        That’s the thing. Most ppl who snort coke do in fact drink a shit pile of booze. It’s a party drug not like weed when you can just light one up watch the wall and order pizza.

        And you’re right about some ppl getting euphoric off it. That’s when it makes a person an addict.

        For most others, like you say, it’s kinda like speed. Just gives a person an extra jolt of energy to keep the party going.

        That’s why a lot of addicts prefer other drugs that do make the body euphoric, like X, heroin, Oxy etc.

        • SC Dave

          Coke was the most boring drug I ever did.

      • Malice Halice

        Yea i agree,i tried that shit at a festival n I swear to god I felt the SAME feeling I did when I hit my 1st big stain. That’s when I learned that my ego secretes a coke like booster

    • King of DBB

      Marc Trestman did a lot of coke.

      That’s why he looks the way he does

  • BuddhaJoe

    Uhh, I’d say ditching your starter because of his performance in two preseason games would be really fucking stupid.

    And throwing in the rook when the O-line is uncertain makes that even dumber.

  • willbest

    Sorry for bringing this back up, but Chicago abides…

    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/08/16/jackson-washington-park-protest-presidents-slave-owners/

    “Bishop James Dukes, pastor of Liberation Christian Center, said he wants
    the statue gone, and he wants George Washington’s name removed from the
    park.”

    This guy has to be working for Trump right?

    And here is the problem with lynch mobs. Poor law abiding statues that didn’t do anything wrong get busted simply for looking like offensive ones.

    http://www.ajc.com/news/local/atlanta-protesters-deface-peace-monument-piedmont-park/6S670h6xMON2SqfzoKAc2M/

    World has gone mad.

    • Did Trump call what happened in Barcelona “terrorism”?
      He really can’t call any car attack “terrorism” now I don’t think.

      If af am communities wanna remove it from their neighborhoods, is not that their right?

      it’s not as if they’re trying to protect the statue of a slave owning traitor responsible for over 200,000 am deaths.

      Personally, I think we really have to pause when it comes to Washington and Jefferson.

      I think this might have to be a local issue in that regards.

      For instance, in little Armenia over here, there wouldn’t be any statues of the Young Turks, that’s for sure.

      • willbest

        Getting rid of Jefferson is a great idea. “All men are created equal” can’t become “but some are more equal than others” until we marginalize that sack of shit. We can keep Hamilton though because he is a black immigrant that supported the Fed, or something.

        Question. Why not rip down the pyramids? They are monuments to delusional men who fancied themselves gods and used slave labor to run their empire and build their monuments. At least delisting them from all 7-wonders references should be required.

        • Once again trying to point to another issue to avoid the real question.

          Do you agree or disagree that the General Lee statue should be taken down?

          No et tus or pointing to pyramids or basilicas or lunar sweatshops…

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            lol… Butch you know better. You will never get a straight answer out of will.

          • willbest

            Should Washington or Jefferson statues/parks be torn down/renamed because of their support of slavery?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            nope, I have no problem with any statue, park, or any memorial that anyone has erected. However if they are on public grounds and receiving Federal money to support/maintain then the meaningfulness may need to be examined.

          • willbest

            You are so full of it. What does Barcelona have to do with renaming George Washington Park in Chicago and vandalizing a statue representing the surrender of the south? Talk about non-sequitur. At least the pyramids are monuments. And you do it all the time too. I just don’t bother to call you out on it. Standard Butch projecting.

            And no Robert E Lee shouldn’t be torn down. Not for the sake of just tearing him down. Destroying art that doesn’t conform to their world view is what the fucking fascists do. And you know this.

            Nobody ever answered my question. Why now? Why is all of sudden in 2017 Lee is beyond the pale. Why not 2012? or 2008? You progs are being played. And you demonstrated it most beautifully, because you expressed reservation about Jefferson/Washington slippery slope 2 days calling Trump’s argument BS, and yet here you are today defending their removal too.

          • So you would want to keep Robert E Lee statue up.

            Gotta it.

          • SC Dave

            So you believe burying history is the path to enlightenment?

          • That’s what history books are for.
            We’re not gonna forget about Hitler just because there’s no statues of him around.

            If the right is so worried about history, build a slavery holocaust museum in its place.

          • Corporal Clott

            His-story books?

            “When they professed themselves to be wise, they became fools”. Romans 1:22

          • SC Dave

            So you equate R.E. Lee to Adolf Hitler?

          • Are we going to debate which is worse, the enslavement of an entire ppl, or genocide?

            That’s like asking, which would you rather be.

            A slave working 18 hr days picking cotton in the southern humidity getting whipped and beat, bred and sold, denied education and even family, at the complete whim of a master…or in a concentration camp.

            I think we can both agree that plantations and concentration camps were evil and that anyone who fought to defend those institutions are by extension, EVIL.

            But, if I had to find someone modern like Lee, it would actually be Rommel, aka, the Desert Fox.

            By most accounts, he was a decent man. Brave and a military genius.

            His enemies grudgingly respected him.

            Nevertheless, he still fought on the WRONG side, and no statues of him are going to be erected in N Africa or England.

            And Lee is probably WORSE than Rommel.

            Rommel eventually saw Hitler and his cause for what it was helped plot his failed assassination attempt, for which he had to take his own life later.

            Lee OTH fought for slavery even after the war.

            Keep in mind that he was offered to lead the armies of the North but instead chose the South. And keep in mind that 40% of Virginians fought for the North including many in his own family, so it’s not as if he had no choice.

            He had a choice. He wasn’t some toothless southern yokel.

            He chose the wrong side; he chose TREASON and as such, shouldn’t be venerated.

            Many northerners called for him to be hung, and only Grant saved him from the rope.

            Like Rommel, you can respect his acumen and character to an extent, but you CAN’T build statues of him.

          • Corporal Clott

            “That’s what history books are for.” Quote Butch a.k.a. Rusty Bedsprings

            The most reliable history book in the world? Care to take a guess Butch?

          • SC Dave

            Your characterization of fascists is as on point as possible given the historical record. The worst of it is that in modern American, the most fascist behavior by orders of magnitude is perpetrated by those labeling anyone with whom they disagree “fascists”.

            It’s pathetic how fucking stupid and disconnected from both history and reality the modern left/sjw cult has become. All they need is this generation’s Jim Jones.

          • SC Dave

            I disagree that General Lee’s statue should be taken down.

        • SC Dave

          Go read about Hamilton and his stance on slavery.

          But your point on the abject idiocy of modern political correctness is well taken.

  • Miami aqua seems right on Cargo for some reason.
    One play he already shows the bad and good.

    Still holding the ball at his waist like a loaf of bread
    Still slung it like it aint no thang.

    (got called back for holding).

    • Also, how awful does Mallet have to be for Kap to ringed?

      • King of DBB

        Infinite

      • SC Dave

        Fuck Kaep. He sucks.

  • wow. That looked like an ugly hit on Cutty.
    Blown screen. Defender ran right though and drove him to the dirt.
    Lucky he didn’t land on his shoulder.

    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      how are you watching the game? I paid for GamePass and the content won’t play. I have told my bank to cancel the transaction on principle.

      • This msg will self explode in 1 min.

        boom

        • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

          it wouldn’t play, but I’m still at work so maybe that’s it. maybe it’s the football gods telling me to stick to the beloved.

          • Yeah, might be work.

            Cutler isn’t in anyways.

          • Malice Halice

            Damn man, I’m finna buy game pass to see da Saturday game

        • Bender McLugh

          Thank your sir

    • Aaaaand after that hit, Cargo done for the day.

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        hurt or pulled?

        • Looked like he was just pulled.

          Prolly scared Gase a bit, so sat him.

          He had two good throws.

          One the rush was coming, he stepped up and flung it to the sideline 15 yds out

          The other came on 2nd drive where he hit Stills(?) in stride on a cross in the middle.

          But the game’s been sloppy on both sides. Holding, offiides, etc

    • willbest

      Was he first team or 2nd?

      • 1st team.
        Just two series.

        They sat him after he took an awkward hit.

        Moore in now. edit. Fales now.

        • willbest

          I wouldn’t have expected him to be the declared starter so early.

          • Well, he def knows Gase’s playbook, so that’s wouldn’t be an issue.

            I think Gase just wanted to get his feet wet, take his first hit, complete vs real competition.

            One thing the MIA announcer mentioned was that Cutler said he likes going no-huddle, and MIA was going a bit hurry up no-huddle

            That’s different.

            Both Martz and Gase took away his audibles.

            Maybe Gase now trusts him more cuz if they’re going hurry up no-huddle, that means Cutler is going to be calling his own plays ala Petyon.

            Interesting to see how that goes.

          • willbest

            I don’t remember the rules, but I thought the OC was allowed to talk into the QB’s head until the 15 second mark (or the ball snapped). So the OC can still call the plays that way and Cutler just shouts them out.

          • True. They would have to be very efficient.
            I think they ran up to the line of scrimmage twice, and on one of them Cutler was pointing out defenders or protection, then hiking.

            Very curious to see what they roll out.

            I assumed they were a ground-and-pound team, but maybe the open it up more now that Cutler is in town.

          • willbest

            Its also the preseason. Gase might just be testing his comfort level in allowing Cutler to do it with his system. Seeing what he remembers of it while in a game setting, etc.

          • BerwynBomber

            Gase is too smart to give Cutty that type of Peyton/Rodgers control. Even in two minute no huddle offenses most QBs are receiving plays via their OCs radio communication.

            The trick with Jay is to limit his on-field thinking as much as possible. It was a huge reason why he played best under Shanny, Martz and Gase.

  • Fales in.
    Mallet just threw a floater INT.

    #TapKap

    • willbest

      I hope you realize that Kaep is a belligerent employee. Its not that he engaged in free speech. He can fucking do that all he likes on a Tuesday. No, he decided that he was going to talk politics at work. Nobody likes those guys.

      • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

        It is ironic that people most worked up about Colin Kaepernick’s national anthem protest are the same racist tea baggers who enthusiastically support treasonous orange chimpanzee.

        I can only imagine the tea bagger outrage if Colin Kaepernick was colluding with a hostile foreign nation against an american…

        • willbest

          Look, I would eat a breach of fiduciary duty suit and could get censured if I decided to use a motion hearing as a time to wax political. Depending on how annoyed the judge was I could also find myself in contempt of court. I wouldn’t be serving my clients best interest, and Kaep most certainly wasn’t serving his employers best interest.

          You want to LARP nazi on your own time, be my guest. You are a fucking idiot or mentally ill but its your own life, you gotta live it. You want to shit all over somebody else’s time, well thats on them to decide what to do with you. The Yorks decided to smile and eat dick over it. The rest of the league decided they don’t need an employee that won’t follow orders.

          As for Kaep colluding with hostile foreign nations see Dennis Rodman. Unless we are at war with them, then see Jane Fonda.

          • SC Dave

            Fuck Kaep.

        • BuddhaJoe

          I actually agree with Kap, but he’s not good enough.

          1. Go to NBC Sports and read the shit from the neanderthals that comment there. Right or wrong there would be a backlash for a team that signed him.

          2. He’s not good enough for a team to build around as a long term starter.

          3. Every team except Carolina and maybe Seattle would have to change their entire offense if he had to come in, and no team is going to do that for a backup.

          He’s done unless some team gets desperate after their QB gets injured mid-season and they have no other choice.

          • BerwynBomber

            Similar thoughts to mine.

            I completely support his right to protest but also support the right of owners who think he would be too much of a distraction given the ROI.

            And yes, too many people are forgetting that he is one-system only QB and most teams aren’t running that system. Basically, you have to make Tebow-like concessions to your gameplan.

          • SC Dave

            Kaep sucks. He’s the 35th worst QB in the league, and NO GM IN HIS RIGHT FUCKING MIND would hire that cunt.

        • SC Dave

          You are such the pathetic cunt.

          Stop being the worst form of ass licking coward and get a fucking account so we can block you, Jeff.

  • Tell you what, Fales continues to look sharp. (Irish boner)
    Just threw a pretty fade that juuust missed at the back of the endzone.

    I think I’d rather have him than Sanchize.

    • Bender McLugh

      No brainer

  • BuddhaJoe

    So Miami has Cutler and Fales, San Fran has Hoyer and Barkley. Fucking weird. Maybe Jacksonville can sign the Sex Cannon and Caleb Heinous and start another ex-Bears club.

    • Irish Sweetness

      SF are sucking for Darnold. The only way you’d sign both Barkley AND Hoyer is having the mission in mind of not winning.

      Ironically, if Miami bring Fales on to throw the long sideline patterns then they could be good. Cutty doesn’t like them, and Falesy measures them perfectly. But SF look like they’re tanking.

      • willbest

        9ers and Jets in a race to see who is going to accidentally win a game.

        The NFL should make them play and if neither team can win by 10 points or more, give the #1 draft pick to whoever comes in 3rd.

        • SC Dave

          They did that crap in the NBA. And the best part is that the team with the best record of the losers got Tim Duncan.

          • willbest

            Its much hard for a #1 draft pick to make a difference in the NFL so I don’t think they need to go full weighted lottery, but when a team like the Jets has a fire sale and brings in McCown to be their QB, something should be done.

          • CanadaBear

            They should hire Emery. Nobody would think he’s building a roster to fail on purpose.

      • BuddhaJoe

        I think the 49ers are hoping for Cousins to reunite with Shanahan more than Darnold, but I’m sure they’d take him.

      • SC Dave

        Fales is Fails. For Fucks Sake figure is out.

      • CanadaBear

        If the only time Fales comes in is to throw long sideline passes, I’m pretty sure the DC will figure it out.

  • BuddhaJoe

    So I’m not sold on Fox necessarily, but this is why the Bears have sucked the last few years:

    2012 Draft.
    1. Chicken Dinner
    2. Alshon Jeffery
    3. Brandon Hardin
    5. Evan Rodriguez
    6. Isaiah Frey
    7. Greg McCoy

    2013
    1. Kyle Long
    2. Jon Bostic
    4. Khaseem Greene

    5. Jordan Mills
    6. CornWash
    7. Marquess Wilson

    2014
    1. Pussy
    2. Ego Ferguson
    3. Will Sutton
    4. Kadeem Carey
    4. Brock Vereen
    6. David Fales
    6. Pat O’Donnell
    7. Charles Leno

    These draft classes should be entering their prime and contributing right now, instead most them are either off the team or should be.

    Fox might deserve to be canned, but he had jack shit to work with.

    And fuck Phil Emery with a rusty chainsaw.

    • willbest

      Charles Leno has a good chance at contributing more to the Bears than any other play on that list.

      • BerwynBomber

        What’s up with Fuller? Is he still on Fangio’s shit list? I still liked what I saw from him as a rookie.

        • King of DBB

          Fuller is going to get cut because he is a pussy

        • evantonio

          I liked what I saw from Nate Vasher as a rookie.

          I liked what I saw from Mark Anderson as a rookie.

          I liked what I saw from Rashaan Salaam as a rookie.

          • Don’t forget Orton!

          • evantonio

            thought about including him. but he had more INT than TD.

          • BerwynBomber

            So are you saying you didn’t want to see a second year from those guys?

          • evantonio

            didn’t we see a second year from fuller? and a sidelined third?

      • BuddhaJoe

        Man, Long, Leno, Fuller and O’Donnell are the only ones left from three drafts, unless I’m mistaken. Fuck that’s bad. Angelo sucked and somehow he comes out looking like the good guy in that.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Kadeem Carey and Fuller are both technically on the team

          • BuddhaJoe

            Forgot about Carey, but it’s hard to see him making the roster unless Pace is willing to dump Langford after only two years.

          • SC Dave

            Carey is WAY better than Langford. Fuck Langford – cut him.

        • SC Dave

          Long, Jeffery, and Carey are the best in that list. All three should still be on the team. Hopefully, at least Carey will stick.

          Long looks done.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Wow. Three years of sucking eggs. Got to hurt.

      • Corporal Clott

        When I was young and I’d try to tell my Dad what to do, he’d tell me to piss off and go show my grand mother how to suck eggs. Still not sure what he meant. Hahaha

        • CanadaBear

          Better to be confused than smited mightily!

  • BerwynBomber

    For all the good Jay/bad Jay talk over the years, Cutler has been surprisingly consistent in his efficiency/productivity. In eleven years, his lowest PR was 77, his highest 92. Except for one other year (when he finished at 78) he was always in the 80s.

    During a sixteen game season he averages 24 TDs, 17 INTs and 3700 yards passing.

    Of course his 92 was with Gase so we’ll see how it goes with MIA.

    • BuddhaJoe

      He is who he is, a good QB who turned the ball over too much to be great.

      Although if we’d had a QB of that caliber from 04-07 instead of Rexy, Orton, and Griese, who knows?

      • BerwynBomber

        “He is who he is, a good QB who turned the ball over too much to be great.”

        That’s called an average QB.

        Or to put it another way: he was an average QB who turned it over too often to be good.

        • BuddhaJoe

          Eh, he managed to last almost a decade on a team that still treated the forward pass as some kinda voodoo well into the 21st Century. Not sure how you handicap that.

          • SC Dave

            So, do you give Rex the same pass, Joe?

          • BuddhaJoe

            I did at first, until he proved he sucked. Hell until 2013, Cutler had less to work with than Rexy had.

            As much as I loved Forte, if your best receivier is your RB, you’re gonna have a bad time.

          • BerwynBomber

            Agreed. And even w/out the contextualization, Cutler was obviously better than Grossman.

            Grossman was a below average starter. Let’s not kid ourselves.

          • willbest

            I don’t know if they thought it was voodoo, but they never bothered to get anybody that was particularly good at catching the ball until 2012

          • BuddhaJoe

            Well they had Olsen, but they dumped him because that washed up hack Martz wouldn’t change his scheme. Fucking Manumaleuna. Fucking 8 sacks in a half vs the Giants.

          • BerwynBomber

            They also had Forte. An all-purpose back like that is huge.

            But yes our wideouts for a few years were dogshit.

          • BerwynBomber

            That statement is more an indictment of our management (especially Emery) than any testament to Cutler’s attributes.

            He was the classic one-eyed princess in the land of the blind. Fans and management alike overvalued/loved him because of all the crap that proceeded him. But in reality he was only a competent, average starter.

            Nothing horribly wrong with that. There are only a couple dozen of those guys on planet earth, but if you are trying to win a championship or even move your franchise forward, it ain’t worth devoting eight years to.

        • add to that “inj prone”

          • BerwynBomber

            In fairness, he has been semi-durable. Average 13 starts a year if you throw out his rookie year. I’m guessing that might be about average.

          • Expecting 13 games out of your starter to go along with all the turnovers and cap hit is not desirable.

            That’s why Tannenhil’s knee had to implode before he got a call.

  • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

    Watching hard knocks….I need a fucking cryo chamber for my old ass.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Glad when I get cut it won’t be on TV.

    • King of DBB

      Aren’t those cool? (Get it?)

      I want one

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        Extra explanation of innocent and clever word play = .05 BitCoin penalty

        haha, I keep fucking up the bitcoin penalty calculation. I have not had my coffee yet.

        • King of DBB

          I just want to know what happens to you when you stand in liquid nitrogen smog at -220f for a few minutes

          • CanadaBear

            You get very, very brittle.

          • Corporal Clott

            Hahaha. I just had a flashback of Todd Collins during the Giants game a few years back.

          • CanadaBear

            Good One! I’m still laughing!

  • fishing florida

    Just watched the highlights of the Dolphins game. Jay looks great in that uniform. I was able to rub 2 out while watching the 2 minutes of highlights.

  • willbest

    Shits getting real. Jeff has busted out the cat memes in his support of Trubisky.

    • Corporal Clott

      Where’s Jonny Carson when you need him?

  • Michael Bradbury

    Oh for cripes sake. Denver has one of the best STARTING defenses in the league. And looked the part.
    Mitch played against THIRD string players..
    Any fan with a brain understands you can ruin a QB for the league by playing them before they are prepared.
    Please try to be at least marginally smarter than the saucer you set your coffee cup on ……………..

    • King of DBB

      Saucer full of secrets?

    • willbest

      Do they? They lost a bunch of people since the won the SB.

  • King of DBB

    melvina Barnes is giving handjobs for 97 dollars per hour to pay for gas in that Range Rover. :!al28s1d

    • beninnorcal

      Must be a good handy at that rate.

  • fishing florida

    i agree it should be glennons’ last chance. it won’t be.

  • fishing florida

    this morning trubisky is still listed 3rd string. i see no sense at all in that. he showed to me from his performance that his development should be accelerated. moving to 2nd string seems the natural way to go for now.. sanchez is near useless. he can’t be a useful backup. there is no reason for sanchez as 2nd string.

    • Scharfinator

      It’s been one week.

      • fishing florida

        obviously. i’m talking about 2nd string, not first. you think sanchez looks better than trubisky at this point?

        • fishing florida

          i mean sanchez is a good looking guy, but he has gotten a little old, his looks haven’t held up like that sweet man meat Cutler. i guess they are listing them in reverse order of how god damn sexy they are.

        • Scharfinator

          It’s been one week.

          • fishing florida

            we all know that pal. lol

      • Corporal Clott

        Jess, sometimes it takes years to figure out your star QB ain’t all that. It’s the Chicago way. Lol

  • Corporal Clott

    If Jeff were a “real” reporter, he’d be all over this. Sadly, Jeff has become more “Fake News”. Hee hee

    http://www.espn.com/blog/chicago-bears/post/_/id/4706050/mike-glennon-flashes-surprising-mobility-in-rare-bears-night-practice

    • Bender McLugh

      I do hope Glennon shows it against competition, success in practice doesn’t mean fuck-all

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        this just in. Trestman’s flight was diverted to Chicago while travelling with his 3-5 Toronto Argonauts team, he decided to stop by to watch practice and stated Glennon had a great practice.

    • BearDown100393

      Jeff or Jeff?

  • Corporal Clott

    “Now make Trubisky the starting quarterback.

    Yes, he’s only 22 and started only 13 college games at North Carolina. And the NFL is mean and vicious and eats its young.

    Again, so what? Life is hard and then you die. Maybe you’ve heard.

    Trubisky ran a 4.67-second 40-yard dash at the NFL combine — the same as athletic Clemson quarterback Deshaun Watson — and his feet never will be faster than they are now. His arm is a cannon”

    Jess, and Mitch also shoots bolts of lightening from his Arse.

  • CanadaBear
    • willbest

      cue: #freeKaep

      • CanadaBear

        I saw a bit of that game last night. Bortles was awful, Henne was better and then the young guy from AR, Allen looked the best. Of course, that’s the same scenario MT had in the opener. Allen was facing the bottom of a 90-man roster.

        • AlbertInTucson

          I don’t get it.

          How does Bortles go from 4400+ Yards passing and 35 TD passes 2 seasons ago to what was on display last night?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            he got sacked a lot and mechanics went out the window

          • AlbertInTucson

            He DID get sacked 51 times one season.

          • CanadaBear

            Last night he looked like he has lost it, knows it and has no idea how to get it back.

      • Chad fucking Henne!

        That dude should be valeting cars at Scores cuz that’s as close to a score as he’s ever going to get.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Jeff, man, we all love Mitchell … he’s the franchise guy …. but how does the 18M dollar man only get two pre-season games under center before he gets relegated to the bench and becomes the most expensive backup in professional sports?

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      money should not play a role in who plays and doesn’t. But I am curious, at what level of suckitude does a player have to display before his benching outways his contract?

      • To bomb or not to bomb…that is the question.

        I’m wondering the same.

        I held that stance that unless Glennon goes full Clausen, he should start.

        But if he does indeed Clausen it in the 2nd and 3rd PS game, will that be enough?

        Will you then turn to your rookie QB (who only practiced vs 3rd stringers) behind an anemic O (would have to be if Glennon goes full-Clausen) to defeat the NFC champs on opening day?

        Would seem like a lot to ask.

        I kinda figured give Clausen at least the 1st two regular season games.

        This would also (hopefully) get Trub more reps with the 1st team, which he’s not getting at all right now.

        That’s one thing I do agree with Jeff about. Trub NEEDS to be getting some 1st team reps, but I know constipated Fox doesn’t wanna do that out of some 1950s mentality or wants to avoid causing a media storm and putting even more pressure on Glennon.

        Oh. Well.

        Let’s just hope Glennon can at least keep his head above water.

        With that neck, he should at least be able to do that.

  • BearDown100393

    If Glennon is as bad as stated by this blog, it must question Pace’s abilities as GM. Cannot have it both ways. Glennon is here because of Pace. End of story.

    • King of DBB

      The narrative here has been Westworld is shmart.

      • SC Dave

        Maxwell

    • Malice Halice

      True, I do believe Glennon will redeem himself this Saturday tho. I do believe. I still won’t like him nor respect him regardless till he wins some games. He Langford n white r so far his bad choices but k white still got another shot n Langford is like da late night slut u can always call when u failed at the bar.

      • BearDown100393

        I take this perspective. Glennon can only get better.

    • BerwynBomber

      If Trisky pans out no one will give a shit. Or much of a shit.

      • BearDown100393

        If…

  • King of DBB

    VICE from HBO really was at ground zero for all the violence. The video is staggering, should get a media award. A Pulitzer.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIrcB1sAN8I

    • + 1 million bit coins

      Was gonna post that too, but decided to not go heavy handed.

      But hey, if Will and gang want to light their torches and march to protect those statues, we should all know who they’re marching with.

      “Blood and soil”

      • King of DBB

        I blocked individuals from this blog awhile ago (and am better for it), but I’m curious if anyone wants to stand up and take a crack at defending their Trump vote in November now?

        No?

        • Corporal Clott

          Remember now….”Curiosity killed the cat”.

        • haha, I don’t block anyone really. For me it’s like interacting with the underbelly of humanity. You read about it in history books, but it’s different when you turn on Fox or run against ppl like Will defending stuff like that on blogs.

          It shouldn’t be ignored but confronted, civilly, if possible.

          But why wouldn’t Trump supporters be proud?

          This is EXACTLY what they wanted, and those who didn’t, are too proud or stupid to admit it.

          These were the same base that voted for GW and nearly collapsed the West.

          And they’re gonna vote for Trump again.

          • Corporal Clott

            “For me it’s like interacting with the underbelly of humanity.”

            Somehow I get the impression you do that a lot butch. I don’t know why, maybe it’s the golden showers thing? Lol

          • I do. I sorta consider myself an artist, and as such, we gotta interact with all sorts of ppl. druggies, whores, puritans, nazis, criminals, conspirators, philosophers, soldiers, lovers, aliens…

            needless to say, takes a lot of patience and open-mindedness, though even I have my limits.

            Like, I may piss on girls, but I prolly wouldn’t take a dump on them…most likely…maybe…

          • Corporal Clott

            Don’t you have to get sworn into office before you can start crapping on people?

          • Zing!

          • willbest

            Good lord, I don’t need another waffle rant.

          • Some ppl need a sense of humor.

          • SC Dave

            Aliens? You mean extra-terrestrials? AWESOME!

          • willbest

            So Antifa starts it here, and in berkley and all over the place, and a bernie bro stabs some people defending muslims and another shoots up some GOP congressmen, and another kills a GOP committeeman. And you are saying if only I had capitulated to letting somebody who launders pay to play through her “charitable” organization, that the left wouldn’t have to resort to violence?

            They are violent because they love us and want us to be better right? Some solid wife beater logic there. Props to GP for acknowledging that these guys are evil.

            Incidentally, it defies belief that you don’t think the actions of antifa would make a person more proud that they voted for Trump. You can say they aren’t from the left, but the fact of the matter is these are the bernie bros. And when Trump condemned them, the Dems went out to defend them against the evil Nazis and “forced” Trump to say the nazis are worse than the people that started the violence.

            Why would I feel bad at all that the Dems lost? The dems are afraid of antifa. That is not a recipe for good leadership.

            And lets be clear the antifa aren’t just after the neo-nazis. They go after neo-con like Ben Shapiro, and professional trolls like Milo, and anybody that complies a statistical chart on race like Charles Murray. And sure none of those people are considered moral by your standards, but where is that line Butch? Which statues are off limits?

            And those are just the people that get violently with. You also have the James Damores of the world that get fired for trying to explain the sex gap in engineering and here is the kicker, proposing non-discriminatory methods in which to close those gaps.

            Or this girl who had her picture taken with Mike Pence who was harassed over it

            http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-15/picture-mike-pence-triggered-bunch-california-private-college-kids

            SJWs aren’t about morality Butch. They are about control. They want it. And when they are denied it, they get violent.

            I said a couple months back that Trump would get more votes than he did in 2016, and I stand by that claim. In fact, at the rate antifa is going, Trump won’t even need to campaign.

          • 1. I am not a Democrat, and you know that, so we can throw all that part out about defending them, cuz I’m not going to defend them. I only voted for 2 dems in my life. Bill and Obama (once).

            2. I’m against violent protests period, so we can throw all that out about me defending violent anarchists, communists and socialists (nazi or democratic) as well.

            We’ve been through this before. During the Civil Rights, ppl had a choice. They could be Malcom X or MLK.

            The former is understandable. When you’re getting K9s sicked on you, the hoses powered up, maced, clubbed and shot, it’s only NATURAL to want to fight back.

            But MLK has proven that ‘turning the other cheek’ while MUCH more difficult, in the long run (in a decent society) is more effective.

            I’ve been to protests and those aggressive dudes are just thugs with a messiah complex.

            3. ALL politics are about control, left or right.

            But what message do you want to send to the world and future generations:

            The U.S. glorifies slave owning traitors who killed thousands of Americans (who killed more americans – Gen Lee or 911 hijackers? Lee, by like 1000 fold.)

            Or that’s a part of our past we must acknowledge but not salute?

            I don’t doubt Trump will get votes again. I said it the first time that he may win the popular. I did not think he would win the electorate, but so be it.

            However, much like with Scwarznegger, the novelty has worn off. The “honeymoon” period is over, and unlike with other presidents, he got NOTHING done so far.

            Americans as partisan as they might be are about RESULTS.

            It’s part of the reason we’re so resilient. If Trump continues doing squat even though the Reps have the House and Senate, it’s going to be tough sledding ESP if a guy like Rubio decides to run against him.

          • willbest

            You are an odd duck Butch, a lot of your arguments about your position end with something along the lines of “what will history think of us?” Which I find fastening btw. Because you somehow think that not only will you be Judged. But that the Judgment matters.

            Which is a bit odd because you don’t know who is going to do the Judging. What if the Muslims “win”? Then you will be considered a vile sexually depraved infidel. Whats more, the fact that the US engaged in slavery won’t even break a top 50 list of things that were wrong with it.

            Another thing to consider is why would history even think of us at all? If the Chinese or Africans “win” and Western Civilization gets covered in a period of 3 month in their World History class, how much of that time is going to get spent on the US? The Romans ruled the roost for 800 years, the Brits for nearly 400, we aren’t even really at the 100 year mark and we are already getting sick of it.

            What if Yellowstone goes and the population of the planet gets dropped to a couple million who have to live out a 10,000 year ice age before it gets warm again, effectively wiping the last 10,000 years out of existence?

            Plus how much time does anybody today spend reflecting back on how the Brits ran their Empire? It doesn’t happen. The problem with History is that its not fixed, its shaped by the attitudes of those doing the research. Trying to be judged by it is folly.

          • SC Dave

            “SJWs aren’t about morality Butch. They are about control. They want it. And when they are denied it, they get violent.”

            *This* is World War III. And if justice and right be served, the SJW enemies of reason and freedom will be defeated.

        • Corporal Clott

          Is that why you always ignore me? Hee hee

          Ahem…..maybe it’s better if you don’t answer that.

          • King of DBB

            Trac –

            I don’t ignore you. Come on now.

          • That’s right, Trac.

            GP is a super secret agent for the Obsidian Order of the Andromedean Illuminati Queen.

            He pays CLOSE attention to you.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            damn you are not supposed to say that in a public forum. It was nice knowing you Butch

          • King of DBB

            Don’t forget that Irish and I started a Punk-Ska band, “Illuminati Conspirators from Zion.”

            Our debut CD, “Chinese Moonbase” went gold.

          • U mean went platinum bitcoin

          • King of DBB

            #1 on the Dark Web

          • Oh, “The Dark Web”

            Starring Jared Leto (cuz he’s in every faux-edgy flick) as a government system’s analysts who accidentally discovers this “dark web” where all the real shit is going on.

            Jennifer Lawrence as always is some ball-busting exec in another division who tries to warn him not to look into, but of course he does because he’s Jared fucking Leto, and down the rabbit hole he goes

            It may sound like the Matrix, but it’s not, cause there’s a lot more fucking and dark web shit.

            And the ending could be him finding out that we’re indeed in alien hologram where Jesus is actually a hacker from another dimension trying to save us from space algorithms.

            (The hacker programmed Jesus and goes by codename God, naturally played by John Malkevich).

          • SC Dave

            Damn Butch, you watch too many movies

          • Stay tuned for “Dark Web II” of the trilogy adapted by GP!

          • Corporal Clott

            I know, I guess I just miss MB. Sigh…..

    • King of DBB

      The video also seems to – unfortunately – and I know this belies my standing with willbesties as a lefty loon – but the counter-protesters started the fight. Pains me to say it, but Trump is actually factually correct – the alt-left came at them.

      They went over the shield walls time and again with fists, and then the shoving began.

      Then one deranged whitey said “hey let me take a page out the ISIS playbook and drive my car into the crowd.” That is on the alt-right. Had they not done that, the martyr card was theirs to play.

      The VICE chick keeps her cool throughout, esp. when interviewing the scary scary man-boy skinhead in seeming charge of things.

      Next time the right comes loaded, they will be like skinhead guy and shots will fire. It’s just shocking nobody decided to deploy the AKs this time.

      • And that is where the “left” goes wrong

        (you don’t have to be a democrat to be against Nazis or slavery and its legacy, ahem, Ike, Lincoln)

        They shouldn’t attack them physically.
        They should also try to get permits and such, though I’m not sure how fast you can get permits to launch a counter-protest.

        and for the record, I don’t know how many times I have to repeat this,

        ANARCHISTS ARE NOT “LEFT”

        They are essentially violent libertarians.

        You can’t be a commie AND want the eradication of all government

        • willbest

          You apparently do. 62% of the country supports leaving the statues including 44% of African Americans and 65% of Hispanics. The only group that really wants it down are progressive whites.

          http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/misc/usapolls/us170814_PBS/NPR_PBS%20NewsHour_Marist%20Poll_National%20Nature%20of%20the%20Sample%20and%20Tables_August%2017,%202017.pdf#page=3

          And Nazis aren’t the right. The word socialism should have been the giveaway.

          • You’re right. Nazis ARE socialist, but not all socialist are Nazis.

            For instance, you’re not going to see Bernie Sanders marching with the Nazis.

            And even though communism is a form socialism, they are not Fascists.

            Russia and Germany lost millions of ppl over this distinction during WW2.

            Democratic socialism is not Fascism.

            They do not believe that Jews and ppl of color should be exterminated.

            And I’m not really a poll guy.

            What was the % of southeners who wanted to keep slavery?
            What was the % of southeners who wanted to keep segregation?

            I bet it’s higher than 62%.

            Didn’t make it RIGHT.

          • willbest

            You are going to argue that Stalin wasn’t a fascist?

          • we’re getting into semantics here.

            He was a tyrant. Just as bad or worse.

            Fascism is defined as “a form of radical authoritarian nationalism” – technically speaking, communism is not “nationalist” – in fact, part of their prime directive is to destroy nationalism, which has divided man, by gobbling up countries.

            This is why Hitler attacked Russia and why later the West adopted the “domino affect” defense

            Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Saddam, Napoleon, etc, they were all tyrants at heart, they just masked themselves under different ideologies.

          • SC Dave

            Autocracy has many faces.

          • Corporal Clott

            Butch has a sickle and hammer tatoo’d on his ass.

            See how I did that MB?

            Dam boykie, where you at?

          • Nope.

            Commies suck donkey balls. Siberian icicled donkey balls.

          • Corporal Clott

            Marxist? Tsoa? Buddist?

          • I’m a Buddist pornstar.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I thought you looked familiar.

          • SC Dave

            Well shit, you really ARE okay then. This thread was scaring me, dude.

          • willbest

            Do you think 45% of blacks wanted to keep slavery?

            On a more serious note, that 65% of hispanics number is interesting. Mainly because brown people generally don’t give a fuck what a bunch of white people did to a bunch of black people when their ancestors weren’t in the country.

          • Corporal Clott

            Originally, the term Nazi was an abbreviation for “National Zionist Socialist Party”.

          • BerwynBomber

            Just because someone doesn’t demand respect doesn’t mean we shouldn’t give it.

            A poll is often cited for those who argue that DC’s pro football team should keep their bigoted nickname. But even if only 10% are offended by it, and we have a good reason why, then It should go.

            I’ll be interested to see what Ole Miss does with their nickname given recent events. Aren’t they the rebels and their mascot a confederate soldier? Gotta imagine those will soon land in the PC crosshairs.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            well shit we are going to be getting rid of a lot of stuff.

          • BerwynBomber

            Price of progress. New stuff will replace it.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            just saying, 10% of people offended is an very low cut off. and those 10% can easily come up with a very good reason to get rid of something. Where does it stop?

          • SC Dave

            There is no “right” to not be offended. Gawd I hate this nonsense.

            Redistributionist statists offend me every day. But I’m an ADULT, and just go on my way instead of whining like a two-year-old.

          • BerwynBomber

            LOL. You’re worried about American Indians abusing their “power” to be offended? SMFH.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            not worried about Indians, they love booze gambling and porn. I am worried about the holier than thou group that is offended by booze, gambling, and porn. PLEASE GOD SAVE THE PORN!!!!

          • SC Dave

            I could not disagree more. NO ONE has a “right” to not be offended.

          • BerwynBomber

            Huh?

        • Johnnywad

          “Violent Libertarians”. Got it. Duly noted.
          (Wad feverishly scrawls in his notebook entitled “Stuff that doesn’t mean shit anymore…….or ever did”.

          Most of these folks just appear to be bored and pissed with no direction in life and looking for something to fight about.

          • Yes, the nazis are just some confused teenagers loitering about and not some highly organized hate group armed with assault rifles, gas masks and shields, chanting “the Jews will not replace us” with international internet presence, pamphlets and financing while ramming into protesters on am streets.

            They’re the grunge kids of our days, really.

          • Johnnywad

            I said nothing about teens, or confusion. And I also said “most”. You spun all that.

            And are you suggesting a small handful of charismatic but twisted whacks, couldn’t organize a bunch of bored, pissed off people and channel their inner disappointment and stupidity? Because that’s exactly what I see.

          • SC Dave

            Or, a check from Soros.

        • SC Dave

          Violent Libertarians? That’s one of the fucking dumbest things I’ve seen in my life.

          Congratulations.

          • Who wants less government?

            Communists or libertarians?

          • SC Dave

            An irrelevant question.

            “Who wants more to tell other people what to do?” is relevant.

          • Exactly.
            Anarchists and Libertarians want a world with no or minimal government intervention “telling them what to do”

            That’s why they’re alike.

            They differ in degrees, not kind.

            Also, as I’ve already mentioned, there’s pacifists anarchists who don’t go to rallies or G8 protests. They mostly just want to be left alone.

            I think these “left” “right” labels are off.

            How we really should categorize is hawk-hawkdove-dovehawk-dove regardless of communists, socialist, libertarian, dem, rep, etc.

            There’s violent factions in each group (hawks), and those are the ones we need to keep an eye on or confront.

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        It feels like sometimes these locations where these events occur are like a playing field or stadium for the various groups to come to in order to get all crazy.
        That was some sad shit to behold.

      • SC Dave

        Of course they did. If you have any knowledge whatsoever of Milo, the left resorts to physical violence every time he speaks, because on the battlefield of ideas, they have zero chance. He is infinitely more articulate and principled than they, despite his trollyness.

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Orange chimpanzee’s shitshow to continue without Bannon. Seb Gorka is now the top Nazi in the White House after Orange chimpanzee.

    • 7source7

      Why don’t you post a photo of yourself so everyone here

      • 7source7

        Can make a comparison you to some low life critter

      • SC Dave

        It’s Jeff. He’s never denied it, and no one else has ever been able to post with a consistent “name” that you could not block. No one.

  • King of DBB

    So now there is a place in Naperville and downtown, doing this:

    https://youtu.be/KKov8DscIIw?t=83

    It’s $90 for 3 minutes. Is this quackery or does it work? I want to try it, maybe this weekend I will book a slot at Naperville.

    Most of the Bucs lineman do this, and they have 4 pods in the training room on Hard Knocks. These guys love it.

    • BearDown100393

      For $120, you can have your head severed and frozen for 3 and half minutes.

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        Or on the dark net you can pay someone in Bitcoin to cut off someone else’s head on video, freeze them in a cryo pod and then play football with the head.

    • CanadaBear

      I can always jump into glacier-fed lake for free!

      • SC Dave

        Bin-fucking-go!

      • AlbertInTucson

        I did one of those cold plunges once about 40 years ago at club after some racquetball once.

        Where there’s a chemical so the water doesn’t freeze at 32 degrees.

        Yikes. I was in for about 3 seconds and out.

        I don’t think my boys ever did get back to their original size.

        Anymore, I won’t even take a quick dip in my pool when the water gets down below 70.

        • CanadaBear

          On one of our bike tours I was working a 19 year-old Scottish girl jumped into Lake Louise and swam around for a while. The water temp had to be in the 30’s. She was a toughie and a cutie!

          I’m OK getting in cold water as long as I can swim around and warm up a little. Those crazy cold glacier-fed lakes, uh no. Way too much of a wuss for that.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Nothing cuter than women swimmin’.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      depends on what you are expecting. If you are looking for relief of inflammation, then I would say yes it would probably help since it is like icing down a sore knee.

    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      that guy could pretty much tell me anything about this cryo therapy and I’d believe it. Holy fuck that guy was a good salesman.

      • willbest

        I wonder how long it takes for your nut sack to crawl back out of your body after you do something like that.

        • AlbertInTucson

          “Shrinkage”…?

      • Irish Sweetness

        All the MMA guys use it. Swear by it.

    • SC Dave

      So what do you do, besides get lucky with Bitcoin, that could possibly justify $90 for three minutes? Did you become a high dollar gigolo when we weren’t paying attention?

      • Irish Sweetness

        How did GP get lucky with Bitcoin?

    • $90 for 3 mins!?

      I’ll just dip my balls in dry ice and call it a day!

      May my wiener outlive my brain…

  • fishing florida

    this morning trubisky is still listed 3rd string. i see no sense at all in that. he showed to me from his performance that his development should be accelerated. moving to 2nd string seems the natural way to go for now.. sanchez is near useless. he can’t be a useful backup. there is no reason for sanchez as 2nd string.

    • fishing florida

      Look guys I am repeating myself, as if my point is valid and by repeating the same thing it might come true and I will be taken seriously in anyway on this blog.

    • King of DBB

      He’s 3rd string because the plan is to bring him along slowly. Pace traded way up for him, and if he falters there will be hell to pay. Pace will get roasted.

      So he needs Trubisky to be the thing Bears fans WAIT FOR. That’s the whole crux of the marketing play and Pace’s own careerism.

      • Corporal Clott

        It’s almost as if you were once a GM. Jerry…Jerry…is that you?

      • Johnnywad

        Man GP. I just don’t see that at all.

        It doesn’t make sense for Pace to trade away picks for the kid, and then just hope he sits the bench for an indefinite period of time in the event that he might suck. That’s just not what I see from Pace at all. Shaheed, Cohen, Jackson…… He’s going balls to the wall with his own evaluations and trying to make the team better. Common practice be damned. From what I can tell, he’s looking for football players, regardless of back story, school, division, etc.

        The best chance he has at keeping his job is selecting good players, getting them on the field, and winning games. It’s sure not going to happen by hiding the second pick in the draft.

        The notion that he’s just somehow forestalling his inevitable firing, and that Trubisky is just a gadget for another year’s GM pay is pretty jaded stuff.

        • King of DBB

          Look – the cool thing about this is that you will soon have empirical evidence to “see that”.

          If Glennon plays badly – like seriously poor – and they go to ButtFumble and it isn’t much better – and the team is functional – the O line is functional – and it’s CLEAR that the problem is QB play – and Fox does NOT MAKE THE MOVE – what will you say then?

          Simple hypothetical that – unfortunately – seems to be shaping up.

          Trading the farm for a QB that is a stretch – a big stretch – when you could have KEPT THE PICKS and built a team that had many holes to fill – is not being a sound GM. It’s not. And nothing anyone here says is correct with regards to this. the NFL beat writers, who nobody CARES about here – agree with my assessment. It was a cynical thing for Pace to have done. Hub said so, and I agree with him.

          Whenever I post a GOOD NFL beat writer that dissects the endemic problems with how the Bears are run – I can predict the response here: who cares what they think.

          To me, that’s a big problem with society. The rejection of expertise is a problem. But the truth is: there are writers who cover the NFL who know a fuck of a lot more than the fanbase.

          For years here I have railed against this place turning into a bunch of knuckle dragging Score fans. And I think it’s been a good fight, because the level of discourse here is far far more even handed than any other sports blog. Many of the regs here recognize the kool-aid drinkers and have taken realistic assessments of the shortcomings of management.

          My supposition is right; Pace had many ways to play this draft – the Jim Finks way where you take the nuts and bolts positions and top off with QB, and this way where you take a QB people can get behind and then stow him away as a transparent play to stall for time. That is what this is, and all it is – and it explains without reservation why you will never see the kid take a snap this season.

          • Johnnywad

            I’d probably say they’re doing exactly what they’ve been saying openly they’d do all along. It’s true he’s green as hell. He’s clearly got the physical tools. But what’s “ready”? Beats the hell out of me.

            But what if he sits a year and comes out polished up and kicks ass? Or even better, what if Glennon sucks so bad, Trubisky gets to start and plays well? Would that then change your entire line of thinking?

          • King of DBB

            Yes. I would.

            If by the bye, Trub is playing and kicking ass – then I will come into this forum and beg for your forgiveness. I will re-assess and write Ryan Pace a personal apology and buy one of those rights to a season ticket as penance.

            But it’s not going to happen. And were we in Vegas at the big board, I would happily open my wallet and put my bitcoin where my mouth is: Trub will not see a gameday snap this season. Cause GP says so.

          • Johnnywad

            LOL. I love this post.

            Forgiveness my ass. I just disagree with you. I just can’t get my head around drafting Trubisky in hopes of saving his job by benching him. He could have taken the safe route and drafted one of those handful of “sure fire” bad ass defenders on the board.

            Plus, I don’t except bitcoin. But you knew that. So I’m doubting your sincerity to begin with.

          • SC Dave

            “I just can’t get my head around drafting Trubisky in hopes of saving his job by benching him”

            Nor I. This whole argument has been promoted by more than one person on this blog, and I just can’t get it.

            Ryan Pace interacts with fans. He HAS to know the hunger.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Bitcoin.

            SMH.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Interesting stuff, Al. The future. And you can mine it. Bits of bitcoins are just floating around in cyberspace if you can find them. Very interesting stuff.

          • SC Dave

            Even better? I assume you meant that for the “sake of argument”, because you’ve demonstrated for YEARS that such statements are unworthy of your intellect.

            The BEST scenario is that Glennon is NFL MVP and we win the Super Bowl.

          • Johnnywad

            I’m a riddle, wrapped in an enigma, smothered in secret sauce.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Pace probably can’t start Trub given the opening to our schedule. If he crumbled under fire, what then? You’ve dicked Glennon’s morale, and you’ve damaged your young draft pick. Gummo’s on 18M and there’s no way they rush to put that on the bench after telling the world their plan already. It’s difficult for them to do a 180 on that. The fans have the luxury of not having handed out the contract and said what’s going to happen this season. I still can’t see Mitch starting in week one, even if he should be. That’s way beyond us.

            Gummo may well suck early. History suggests so. And we’ll all be baying for Mitchell … and the front office will hold firm … until late season when it’s already all over …. and Mitchell comes in and plays well. How about them apples?

    • willbest

      Well if Sanchez takes 2 snaps from under center before Mitch comes out, then he is 3rd string in name only.

      • Exactly. It’s not as if Sanchez is playing till the 4rth and Trub is getting bed crumbs.

        Fox is so predictable.

        He’ll give the vet a token series or something, then put in rook.

        It’s the same reason he’ll list Amos ahead of Jackson all the way until the final PS game.

        What I care more about is the practice reps which we’re not really privy to.

  • King of DBB

    I got a fucking statue that needs taking down. Malone and Stockton outside EnergySolutions Arena in Utah. Didn’t even win a championship!

    What, did people forget that MJ kicked their ass? They get a statue for almost? If that’s the criteria then Rex Grossman needs a statue at Soldier Field

    • willbest

      I know I am blocked, but here is an “article” that places Malone at #3 (His Airness is #4) and Stockton at #5.

      https://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/no-lebron-james-isnt-the-best-of-all-time-and-hes-not-even-close.html/?a=viewall

      seems legit.

      • BerwynBomber

        Malone was better than MJ? LOL.

        Kareem and Wilt are actually decent cases. But big men are often underappreciated. Look at Shaq. These days Kobe is given as much if not more credit for those Lakers championships than Shaq, but Shaq was obviously the best player during those first three.

        Btw, you’re blocked?

        • willbest

          GP was tried of me always commenting on his political shit so he blocked me.

      • SC Dave

        Well, at least he has Wilt ahead of Jordan.

      • evantonio

        dougie j blocked you? what did you do?

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      I got second in Fantasy Football 2 years ago, so I commissioned a statue of myself

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    oh yeah it’s Titty Friday

    https://boob-in-motion.tumblr.com/

  • King of DBB
  • King of DBB
  • willbest

    I am so confused. Is it the Jews, Nazis, or the Russians that secretly control Trump. Trac I need your help!

    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tim-graham/2017/08/18/even-olbermann-went-wtf-huffpost-homepage-shoos-bannon-goy-bye

    • Johnnywad

      Who cares? There’s no middle ground here. People that like Trump won’t find a flaw and people that do will find it in everything he does.

      One thing is clear, the guy is in WAY over his head. Fortunately, real change happens slowly. The best thing we can hope for is total gridlock. And he’s getting that with a majority government.

      I’m ready for someone different so everybody will just shut the fuck up about it. It never makes a damn bit of difference anyway.

      • SC Dave

        The last sentence is The Truth.

      • evantonio

        bernie would’ve prevented that delaware-sized glacier from breaking off antarctica.

        and government subsidized legal weed would be in everyone’s mailbox twice a week.

        man, what a world that would’ve been…

        • Johnnywad

          We should build condos on that ice berg.

    • Corporal Clott

      Follow da money!

      • You know the article is “fair and balanced” when the header goes:

        MRC News Busters – exposing and combating liberal media bias

        I always wondered what pamphlet Will got his news from.
        Now I know.

        #fake news

        edit. Oh and look. There’s Will Onesies! (iron cross not included)

        http://www.cafepress.com/themrcstore/12337979

        • willbest

          I actually read the HuffPo, NYT, WaPo, WSJ. Know thy enemy and all that. This particularly link however came across my twitter feed. I don’t really care what they do outside of this post. All that mattered to me was that their screen cap of HuffPo was correct which was important because HuffPo changed it. I also found it amusing that they have Olbermann calling them out.

          • Yes, and now I know where you get your talking points from.

            The “aesthetic” angle was a nice touch too, counselor.

            as if you’re defending southern “art” lol

            lawyers are still the same amoral sophists Socrates and most good citizens hated 5,000 years ago, and will 5,000 years hence.

            How bout that for history.

            http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/16/us/robert-e-lees-grandson-comments-on-statue-removal/index.html

          • willbest

            So you turn on the news, and you see antifa thugs attacking people all over the country, and being specifically angry about your great great grandpappy’s statue. At which point a reporter shows up at your door (having found you himself) to ask you a couple questions about whether or not they should stay. And your response is going to be???

            My question to you is, how do you know these people are telling you the truth rather than to avoid having to flee their home and have their lives completely turned upside down?

            Spike Lee had to settle up with the wrong Zimmerman family after he tweeted out their address and they were forced to flee their home. But if you answer CNN questions, you are bringing that firestorm on yourself and there is no recourse.

            I will point out that Stonewall Jackson’s descendants published an open letter, rather than being tracked down by CNN, so you can be reasonably certain that their official position matches their true position.

            Just a note. I am not amoral. I don’t have your morality though. That would make me immoral, at least as far as you are concerned.

      • Irish Sweetness

        That would be the Rothschilds then.

        • Corporal Clott

          They’re nothing more than high powered bag men my man. Follow da monay!!!

  • AlbertInTucson

    DBB: “Blake Bortles has regressed since his rookie season.”

    Ya think?

    Bortles-2015: 4400+ yards, 35 TD passes and he ran for 2 more TDs.

    What the hell HAPPENED to THAT guy?!

    • BearDown100393

      He got Jaguared.

      • Johnnywad

        Is that worse than Brownsed? Hard to imagine.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          yes – no rookie for the Browns would ever put up those kind of numbers

    • BerwynBomber

      But how many TOs in ’15?

      Bortles always seemed like Cutler 2.0. A guy with a lot of “tangibles” whose football smarts seems to drop thirty points upon kickoff. Too many mistakes to be much more than a tremendous tease.

      • AlbertInTucson

        18 INTs.

  • BerwynBomber

    Fox has lost significant weight. (Check out the pic in the Arkush article.) Gotta imagine his cardiologist is pleased.

    http://www.profootballweekly.com/lists/2017/08/15/d1195b0d24294fefa80d9c55b4cf009a/index.xml?page=1

    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      i saw an old dude the other day that i need to be when i’m 60. He wasn’t skinny, he wasn’t fat, shredded or bloated. He was fucking strong, didn’t fuck it up with black loafers and jeans and didn’t have little saggy old man tits. Younger men wanted to BE him and young gold diggers in river north wanted him to molest them.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Or it’s cancer.

      Either way, be well coach. We need that guy.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis
    • evantonio

      yeah. he worked out for the Dolphins earlier this week, but he didn’t end up making a return to the team he played for in 2014 and 2015. dude spent last year with the Giants. He’s also spent time with the Colts and Bills.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        thanks. its almost as if I could have read the article to find that out.

  • SC Dave

    Ah… Zauberflötte…

    Life is divine!

  • leftcoastdave

    Any games worth watching tonight?

  • EnderWiggin

    Howard – Eye surgery in the offseason, and scratched his lens today. Won’t play tomorrow.
    https://twitter.com/patrickfinley/status/898678892512256000

    • leftcoastdave

      The surgery was just lasix I believe. Scratching a cornea is no big deal.

      • SC Dave

        Depending on the severity, of course. It will hurt for a few days and likely recover perfectly. But I’m fine with Jordan waiting until game P3 to play.

        • I think this is just a way to give some extra looks at the very heated HB position.

          They should put Carey with the 1st team to see how he handles it.

          Cohen is a lock, and Benny most likely too.

          See if Carey is worth carrying 4 HBs.

          • leftcoastdave

            Exactly what it is. Not to suggest that the cornea is not scratched and no big deal.

      • AlbertInTucson

        As long as it’s somebody ELSE’S cornea.

    • Eyes are overrated.

      • leftcoastdave

        Give him a cane and a dog and he’ll be fine.

      • Irish Sweetness

        They’re for pussies.

    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      that can’t be good. what if the surgery got fucked up as a result? what if he loses that fucking eye? Do you think the NFL will put a little nfl logo on the eye patch? Napoleon Kaufman pt 2?

      • Scharfinator

        HAhahaha on the patch

      • Corporal Clott

        I poked the center in his eye when I tackled him on my very first little league play. I was playing noseguard and thought I had to tackle the player trying to block me. Lol.

        • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

          dirty. I like it.

          • Corporal Clott

            Lol

    • Irish Sweetness

      I thought you only scratched your lens from drunkenly sleeping on your eyeball?

  • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

    i finally watched the Dolphins game….or…uhhh, the first 2 series.

    Gase knows exactly what to do with Cutler. Devante Parker is a valid Fantasy pickup for all you white wannabe slave owners. Also, Cutler will not make it through the season and the reason will be the right tackle #79. Who may be as talented as J Webb but white. A white fucking J Webb.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Kenny Stills had 9 TDs last year. Parker had 4.

  • SEA just lost their starting LT
    Bass on SEA now?

    I heard the announcers say the Ravens already lost 9 players.

    Seems like the inj bug going around.

    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      ravens just signed Zuttah.

      • No Zuttah virus for us, I guess.

        Compton, Grasu or Morgan better bring it.

        Will this be the first yr in a decade Boggs makes the 53?

  • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

    Watching Bears game. Not impressed with Whitehair shotgun snapping abilities. At least 4 or 5 poor snaps.

  • Irish Sweetness

    ‘6 Days’ was quite good, if anyone is looking for a historical flick to watch. The 1980 Iranian Embassy siege in London.

    No Googling. Who were the hostage-takers?

    • leftcoastdave

      Alt-right neo nazis?

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