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Ryan Pace Signs Glennon, But Quarterback Picture Remains Unclear

| March 9th, 2017

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18.5 million.

That’s the number that matters.

It’s the amount guaranteed to Mike Glennon over the course of his three-year contract with the Chicago Bears. It gives him a nice one-year deal for an NFL starting QB and, hopefully, a well-paid second year on the bench. But it’s not the only number that matters. When it comes to the future at quarterback for the Bears, two other numbers carry immense significance.

3.

36.

Those are the first two selections for the Bears in the 2017 NFL Draft. And if the team hopes to come out of the spring with their quarterback of the future, history tells us they will need to find that man with one of those two selections. Because history also tells us Glennon ain’t the guy.

Yes, Jay Cutler is gone. And barring unforeseen circumstances Glennon is going to be the quarterback in 2017. Those sixteen games provide the 6’6″ signal caller (say that five times fast) with every opportunity to keep whomever the Bears select in Philadelphia well behind him on the depth chart.

Glennon is getting the chance every quarterback in the NFL wants – the chance to make a team his own. Last year Brian Hoyer got it and refused to throw touchdowns before shattering into a million pieces. Matt Barkley also had it until his carriage turned back into a pumpkin.

Glennon has a chance to be the guy. And it would make the lives of those working at Halas Hall much easier, and ascend them to borderline hero status, were he to turn out to be the starter for the next seven years. But Ryan Pace has to hedge this bet. He has to look to the draft to secure the future of the quarterback position. And he has to look early.

It’s an odds play. Glennon may turn out to be a good starter but Glennon AND Trubisky or Watson or Kizer or Mahomes or Peterman gives the Bears far better odds of solidifying the position. Just signing Glennon to this short-term contract is only a solid move for the organization if the correlating move happens before Friday night wraps up on draft weekend.

If the Bears get to the Round 3 and haven’t yet taken a quarterback, the Glennon signing will and should raise every eyebrow in Chicagoland.

Pace has begun to paint the future of the quarterback position in Chicago. But until late April, we won’t see the completed canvass.

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  • willbest

    Why is Sims worth $10 guaranteed?

  • Sahr Gborie

    We miss you Cutty

    Seriously questioning the judgment of Pace. But I will reserve judgement until the 2018 season.

    Not excited by Glennon-cide but I will tolerate it because if he wins takes us to the promised land we have nothing to complain about

    • SC Dave

      No, “we” dont

      • Sahr Gborie

        What do we have to complain about if he takes us to the SuperBowl against the Patriots?

        Yes the Pats are winning the AFC!!!

        • willbest

          That was in reference to missing cutler

          • Sahr Gborie

            No appreciation for the man and his talents as frustrating as he was. That’s a shame….I’m not a Cutty apologist but for a long time everything was on his shoulder with not help at all.

          • willbest

            He has had help since 2013. It just wasn’t enough and then he got hurt.

          • SC Dave

            Fuck, he played with very good defenses before that. He just could not raise the team.

          • SC Dave

            Excuses are long over. Move on

          • Irish Sweetness

            Yah. It’s been a long road. It was one playoff game and .500. Next.

          • MB30SD

            Well, you are most certainly sounding like one

          • Sahr Gborie

            He does not play D-FENCE or special team

          • MB30SD

            : /

        • SC Dave

          Cutler, who “we” don’t miss, sure as shit ain’t taking us to the SB

          • Sahr Gborie

            Was talking about Glennon-cide taking us to the SB. no complaints if he does that.

          • SC Dave

            Well, fuck no. Were Glennon to become Brady 2.0, we’d all be beside ourselves with joy.

          • Irish Sweetness

            None. No complaints. But I’ll find a bag of diamonds before that happens.

          • SC Dave

            Well, you better get started then… good luck! Make it HAPPEN, Irish.

      • MB30SD

        This… You beat me to

      • Irish Sweetness

        He means Waffle, me and uhhh … that dude over there ….

  • SC Dave

    Fuck… at least i beat MB here

    • MB30SD

      I let you have it.

      You’re welcome

  • SC Dave

    MB… so, how about a WR at #3?

    • Sahr Gborie

      Hello No. D-FENCE 1ST. Build a BULLY D-FENCE and let the O come together in time

      • SC Dave

        I was just trolling, dude.

        • Sahr Gborie

          Sorry man…Too upset about Glennon-cide and lack of day one movement

          • SC Dave

            S’all good. A tough day.

          • evantonio

            eh. we’ve had some downright glorious days here when FA kicked off in that past. how’d that go?

            maybe a tough day is a worthy investment.

          • SC Dave

            Let’s hope so.

    • Malice Halice

      Tyrrell Pryor man. Believe n it shall happen

      • Sahr Gborie

        Hahahahahahahaha

        • Malice Halice

          I’m sirus! Shits gettin outta hand. We need a star on the O

          • SC Dave

            We have one (Howard) and ditched another (Jeffery).

            Better pray on Oline depth from here on out

          • Sahr Gborie

            Hahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

      • SC Dave

        And he’ll flame out as an ex-QB with a lucky season.

        • Malice Halice

          Naw man he did good

          • SC Dave

            I’m sticking to my opinion.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

        You strike me more as a Josh Gordon man

        (puffffffff)

    • MB30SD

      Fuck. No.

  • BearDown100393

    “But I love the Bears” – Jay
    “The Bears don’t love you” – Anti-Vac

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Another round of musical chairs. That should be the teams new name.

    • MB30SD

      It’s the Thompson Way

  • evantonio

    apologies if this has been shared already, but check out barnwell’s glowing cutler remark nested in their alshon story:

    In his four years as a starter, Jeffery is ninth among wideouts in both cumulative receiving yards and receiving yards per game, despite having Jay Cutler as his best quarterback in that time.

  • BuddhaJoe

    So here’s Cutty’s epitaph from the last thread, but it illustrates perfectly why an even worse Glennon and anybody else they get are fucked:

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jay-cutler-departs-chicago-as-bears-most-underappreciated-misunderstood-qb-ever/

    They’ve learned nothing.

    • BerwynBomber

      A biased view of Cutty — the misunderstood/underappreciated argument is just a couple of more in an endless line of Cutty excuses. Between that article’s perspective and a bash job lies the truth about Cutty.

      • BuddhaJoe

        Really? I thought it was fairly honest about his obvious faults, just putting them into the whole picture at the same time.

        • BerwynBomber

          Beyond the title and subtitles I stopped once the author claimed the city never loved him nor understood him.

          No doubt Cutty was polarizing. But the fan base was much more pro-Cutty than anti. Hell, just look at the history of Jeff’s polling on the guy.

          Plus, which QBs are universally beloved by their fan base? Brady? Wilson? I don’t even think Rodgers is if only because of the pro-Favre crowd that undoubtedly exists among Cheese heads.

          A decent-size segment of any fan base will turn on any starter if a) he is average, b) prone to TOs, and c) has been at the helm for too long. All those things were true of Cutty.

          Was he demonized a bit much for his attitude? Arguably. And personally, I never went for it. But was his attitude that great? Doubtful. Plus, there was always an over-correction with Cutty.

          A pussy who sat out the second half of the NFCC? Then years of he “is the toughest guy on the team” stuff ever afterward.

          The truth with most things Cutty was somewhere in the middle. He was never a bad as his worst critic contended. He was never as good as his strongest fan argued.

          He was a talented, average, competent starting QB who never lived up to the hope and promise invested him. Happens.

          • BuddhaJoe

            That’s basically what the article said, it was mostly agreeing with you actually. It basically said what I’ve always said; that Cutler was good but not great, but he’s been fucked over by incompetent management and coaching, which I don’t think anybody who follows the Bears can argue with. I only point it out because we appear to be doing the same the same thing when it comes to Giraffe Boy, much as I hate the signing personally.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Why do they always write that. Good but not great. Nobody EVER called him great.

          • BerwynBomber

            You would upvote that A7X shit above, Irish. SMFH … says a lot about your character.

          • A7Xthebest

            Dear God for someone who has supposedly come to terms with this you think about it an awful lot.
            I remember your same faggy reaction the day of the NFC Champ game. “OMG HE’S SUCH A PUSSY LIKE ZONKERS.” It’s tired and stupid. His body broke after a year in Martz’ system behind one of the worst OLs in the league at the time.

          • BerwynBomber

            What are you talking about and why are you getting personal? I wasn’t even around on this blog in 2010. Chill the fuck out. And don’t act like a child.

      • Sahr Gborie

        He had the tools. He did not always uses them to his fullest potential. He did not always have the best O-LINE and weapons. That’s the truth of Cutty.

        If you think The guy up north or Brady could win with any of Cuttys teams then I will give up the argument that that it’s not all his fault!

        • Malice Halice

          What? We had twin towers at WR, Devin Hester as well (I think) Forte n Bennet. Gino would win

        • BerwynBomber

          Of course it wasn’t all his fault, but yes, Brady and Rodgers would have won with most of Cutty’s teams.

          They are elite, HoF-level QBs. Cutty is a competent, average starter. It is an enormous difference. Not only in regard to the position itself but the entire team.

          • Irish Sweetness

            No, no they wouldn’t. Couldn’t. They can’t fix bad defenses, they can’t overcome crappy OLs.

          • BerwynBomber

            Nonsense. And you haven’t followed the careers of either Brady or Rodgers to utter such a thing.

            Hell, the Cheese D was horrible this year, and Rodgers had them in the NFCC. And both he and Brady have played behind their share of sketchy O-lines.

          • A7Xthebest

            Brady sure as shit has NOT played behind his fair share of bad O-lines. Nor has Rodgers, to be completely honest. The difference is that those two QBs were developed properly in primarily the same system for their entire careers.

          • BerwynBomber

            The difference is both guys are elite HoF QBs. And Cutler is average. That is the largest difference and it is humungous. Arguing anything else is minor.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I most certainly have not followed the careers of Brady or Vadgers. Fuck them. I’m a Bears fan. I was watching Jay.

            Rodgers did what this year? Pulled off his usual Hail Mary to get him somewhere he didn’t belong? Did I miss his Lombardi being handed out for that? Has Brady won the SB every year?

            Put Joe Montana behind Frank Omelette, Orlando Pace or J’marcus fucking Webb and see how many TDS he throws to Jerry Rice ….

          • SC Dave

            12 per season

    • Sahr Gborie

      It’s accurate. Very sad. We were almost there with him. We just needed a little more. That’s why I only put 50% on him and the other on the rest of the team/management

      • MB30SD

        Barf dude

      • Malice Halice

        One season was mgmt fault and his. The rest is thoroughly cutler. I was devoted till last year with pride cuz we never had better. But I mean damn he was just fuck up on some high shit.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

    This was the sale Pace should’ve made to Jefferson and Bouye

    “Look, we’re a 3 win team, but that’s mostly due to a myriad of injuries and game day metldowns. We’re close. We got Floyd, McPhee, Goldman and one of the best football minds on D. We’re gonna wheel and deal in FA, Jefferson, Bouye, Doyle, Pryor, and with #3 and #36 we’re gonna get even fiercer”

    But instead, we get …Dion Sims.

    • MB30SD

      Yup, that was my plan. The Vulcan mind meld obviously didn’t take. Damn you pace!

    • BuddhaJoe

      #Cuck

      • MB30SD

        #TheThompsonWay

    • Sahr Gborie

      LoL…. wett dreams

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

        I sell wet dreams…how else do I get girls doing each other in the back seat of my car?

        I’m handsome, but not that handsome!

        Fucking Pacebot. Couldn’t sell a steak to a starving millionaire .

        • MB30SD

          I can attest to that second to last part

    • chitownproud85

      “But instead, we get…Dion Sims.” – Bears season slogan for 2017

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

        My Redskins’ bud is fuming too. He doesn’t’ know what the fuck is going on.

        They not only lost Garcon and Djax, but they also lost a GM.

        Bears slogan, “At least we didn’t lose our GM in FA”?

        • Sahr Gborie

          I feel better now…A little

        • MB30SD

          It’s the Thompson Way

          • MB30SD

            And maaaan, FUCK the Redskins

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            And their franchise $24M QB wants to be traded away.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Bears Slogan “Our GM hires The Cryptkeeper”

          Movie soon to be released nationwide.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Lost D-Jax? He got paid 11m a year, they dodged a bullet there.

    • SC Dave

      It certainly looks grim at the moment. But I don’t remember much excitement about Akeem Hicks last season.

      Was that just blind luck?

      Certainly Pace’s biggest “splash” guys didn’t work out very well.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Pace will show up to the presser with a blind stick, wearing sunglasses and a trench coat and hat and say in the famous voice of Ralphie:

    “It was….it was SOAP POISONING!”

    • BuddhaJoe

      Fucking Lifebouy. Those bastards.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Schwartz paid a heavy price too. That smart ass.

        • BuddhaJoe

          OOOOOhhhhhhhh Fuuuuuuuudge. Only I didn’t say fudge.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

    How Pace can redeem himself.

    Buy Pryor. Beggars can’t be choosers.
    If Gordon gets reinstated, get him too (imagine Pryor and Gorden across from each other? holy shite).

    Sign Connor Barnwin DE/OLB

    Draft Hooker. Demps is a SS, right?

    Not sure if it matters anyways. Draft Thomas if that’s the case.

    With #36 draft the best CB left on the board. Should still be better than anything we roster.

    3rd rd. Draft BPA. Focus on D, TE, WR (if we don’t sign aforementioned)

    4rth. Draft Peterman. We have two 4rths – trade up if necessary. But MUST draft a decent QB prospect.

    Rest, Don’t matter.

    • chitownproud85

      #GetPryor2017 GODDAMNIT

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

        Pryor played QB too.

        Just sayin…

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

      Just checked.

      Baker and Hankins are still out there.
      If free, Pace needs to jump on them ASAP.

    • Irish Sweetness

      You’re rolling with Leno/Massie?

      No to drafting any WRs. No projects. We need vets NOW.

  • BerwynBomber

    “If the Bears get to the Round 3 and haven’t yet taken a quarterback, the Glennon signing will and should raise every eyebrow in Chicagoland.”

    I can live with an ’18 draft pick. They could roll into camp with Glennon, Shaw and Barkley. So long as Pace absolutely drafts someone in ’18, that’s fine.

    • Sahr Gborie

      Exactly. Sell the farm for DARNOLD in 18.

  • Captain Obvious

    Signing Glennon, jettisoning the Destroyer and the Anti-Vaxxer, all seem like rearranging the deck chairs on the HMS Halastanic.

    There are too many holes on the defense to fill while simultaneously drafting a replacement for AJ and a QB who has a snowball’s chance of developing into a starter. And forget about getting some competition at LT.

    I like Pace, but I think he either out-maneuvered himself, or he has a very inflated opinion of Glennon. If Glennon is just occupying space while the 2017 draft QB develops, Pace could’ve had that in the Destroyer.

    And I know what people are going to say about Glennon’s contract… but seriously, if you’re going to “overpay” for Glennon, why not keep a cheaper option and overpay for a position that desperately needs shoring up. Like CB?

    • Sahr Gborie

      if you’re going to “overpay” for Glennon, why not keep a cheaper option and overpay for a position that desperately needs shoring up. Like CB? – exactly what I was thinking at work all day

    • BerwynBomber

      The main argument, I presume, against Hoyer is that the Bears know his ceiling. We saw it this past year. That is as good as it gets. Plus, there could be a durability issue.

      There is a chance — however small — that Glennon develops into a cut-rate Eli, Flacco or pre-’16 Ryan.

      And lastly, Glennon is, I believe, four years young than the Destroyer. And seven years younger than Cutty.

  • RenoBear

    So this thing about missing on all our FA’s targets… I’m thinking it’s a combination of the aftermath of 3-13 and that bullshit workers company thing the asshole demaurice smith kept telling all the players? I still have faith in Pace… I’d love to see a trade down from 3 to 7-12ish and get a couple more 2nd (one next year) and a third… then maybe we take one of the top 3 QBs in the mid first and have a stacked 2nd and third rounds

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Who coud you see at 7 to 12 ish making that switch with the Bears?

      • RenoBear

        Haven’t looked yet, hell even 15-20 for a first next year and 2nd and 3rd this year… some teams are crazy… I’m just spitballing here, haven’t looked at draft order too much yet… but trading down would be ideal in this situation especially w this draft

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

          We either gotta rack up picks for next year or collect as many 2nd rounders as possible in this draft.

          Problem is, every other GM wants the same.

          • RenoBear

            Agreed… but I think Pace may be able to pull something off, maybe not that magnitude, but I think something good is going to happen… I’m just a dork optimist, I guess.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Every GM doesn’t have the third pick ….

      • RenoBear

        And if got one a Watson or trubisky at 15-20 and still had those extra pucks in 2nd and 3rd plus an extra first next year…. I think we’d ALL sign up for that

        • Irish Sweetness

          If Pace trades down AND gets Trubisky/Watson/Kizer then he’s forgiven for today’s events.

          I trust him as far as drafting, as far as FA goes … we lost two of our best today. Lots of subtraction around here, not so many sexy additions ….

          … but this is the beginning of a chess game, and you can’t analyse the result yet.

      • SC Dave

        Maybe Carolina to get Fournette? He would be a monster on that team.

    • Irish Sweetness

      After today, I hope one of two things happen. Either we drat Fournette, or trade down. Jamal Adams will not be worth what we can get for his pick if we find a trade partner. Signing Shaw and Glennon speaks to us not drafting a QB at #3, so Pace is eyeing up partners methinks.

    • willbest

      It’s my understanding that the worker comp thing is nonsense and that other states have similar rules

      • AlbertInTucson

        Yes, it IS a giant load of crap.

        The State can not pay you your NFL – level salary as a benefit indefinitely.

        In case DeMaurice Evans hasn’t noticed, Illinois is ALREADY up to its eyeballs in debt in underfunded, ridiculous public pensions.

        Free agents probably just think the Bears are not an attractive destination.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

    So Jerra waiting for either Texans or Donks to blink.

    I wonder if there’s some backdoor collusion between their GMs to not give Jerra shit.

    • BerwynBomber

      HOU was reported to have said earlier that they would not trade for Romo but who knows if that is bluster.

      One crazy ass scenario is if the Clowns indeed cut Oz, and then Elway brings him back to DEN for a song. Highly doubtful but would be amusing.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

        Nah, I don’t think so. Oz and Donks parted on bad terms. Same with Cutler.

        Doubtful either land there, but stranger shit has happened (like today)

  • Irish Sweetness

    What a day – and we broke the blog comments record?

    Fare thee well Cutty.

    Happy trails …..

    If it’s really true and Glennon is really the new QB ….

    … then good luck Gummo!!

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    FUCK YEAH!!! We got Glennon! BIATCHES!

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    DAG NABBIT!!! Cornhole Washington signed with the Lions.

  • Doc Nitty

    Blog Poll:

    Were you happier when they cut Jay or originally signed Jay?

    At least this time we aren’t filled myopic delusional misguided hope.

    That guy ranks right up there with my x. Waste years of my life while I hope for change. Least I didn’t have to fuck him. So there’s that.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I was happier than a motherfucker when we got Jay. I literally – and this is no exaggeration – woke up every day with a smile on my face … just knowing he was our QB.

      Today, I’m a bit sad.

      If there’s no rough, there’s no smooth. If you weren’t with your Ex .. .your kids don’t exist now. And you’ve got more kids than Brian Urlacher and Antonio Cromartie put together, so ….

      It was never boring with Cutty. He always had upside. Unlike Rex.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

        Are you kidding me. Rex was on fire for like a month.
        But, like Cutty, wildly inconsistent and TO prone.

        • Irish Sweetness

          A month …?

          Dude, we were all on fire for a month at some point in our lives .. .but I’m no Conor McGregor.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

      Revisionist jubilation and deflation!

    • CanadaBear

      You never know, he might be a good lay!!!!!!!!!! You sound well Doc. Hope things are still percolating nicely for you and your significant other.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Eagles picked up Torrey Smith as well as AJ.

  • Irish Sweetness
  • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

    “sixteen games provide the 6’6″ signal caller (say that five times fast)”

    Works better with sixteen games supply the 6’6″ signal caller

  • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

    “If the Bears get to the Round 3 and haven’t yet taken a quarterback, the Glennon signing will and should raise every eyebrow in Chicagoland.”

    A-freaking-men.

    I did the math yesterday, and between 2010 and 2016 4 of 56 QBs drafted in round 3 or later have turned into solid starters. That’s 1 in 14. I don’t like those odds.

    If one of their 1st two picks isn’t spent on a QB Ryan Pace should be fired on the spot.

    And if he does spend one of those picks on a QB, Mike Glennon should be benched by the bye, unless he’s suddenly turned into a better QB than he’s ever been in college or the NFL so far. We know Glennon’s not the long term answer. A year with him as the starter is a year of the rebuild wasted. Answer as many questions as you can as quickly as you can.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

      The thing is that QBs after the 2nd don’t get as many chances.

      Look at Cousins.
      Took RG3 busting big time, and inj.(and even then it took like 4 yrs for skins to tap him)
      Dak. Took Romo going down.
      Brady, same.
      Wilson was a bit diff in that Pete really hosted an open competition. Most HCs SAY that, but don’t mean it (if so, how could Oz or Gabbert have started for that long when their backups were clearly better).

      those mid-rd QBs really have to blow open-minded coaches away like Big Balls Pete, or the QB ahead of them has to go down for the season.

      It’s not necessarily cuz they’re inherently suckier – though obviously they’re less “physically” talented or else they wouldn’t fall.

      What I’m trying to say is, the Bears are in a situation where they’re not married to Glennon, so if a mid rounder like say Peterson begins to show, maybe the trigger is pulled faster on him then say Cousins behind RG3.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Which will make it doubly strange if Pace doesn’t draft a QB at #3.

      If Gummo channels his inner-Hoyer … he may protect us from high draft picks for years to come. We have a #3 right now, and may not have that for a long long time again.

      I would prefer a Fournette or Jamal Adams – I’m just a fan – but if the guy is a serious GM, then he needs to push his chips in the middle at some point. Getting rid of guys is one thing. Time to start adding.

    • BerwynBomber

      “If one of their 1st two picks isn’t spent on a QB Ryan Pace should be fired on the spot.”

      Nah, emotional overstatement.

      From what I hear of the Glennon deal, 14M is paid the first year, 4.5M the second year. So the Bears could roll this year with Glennon, Shaw and Barkley, and then draft a kid in ’18. But he would almost have to be a first-rounder if they wait for ’18.

      Basically, Glennon buys Pace an extra year, though I could certainly see them taking someone this year.

      • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

        Not an overstatement. When you don’t have a QB, you need to keep trying until you do. History says your best chance of finding a QB is in the 1st 2 rounds.

        And Barkley signed with SF.

  • Irish Sweetness

    “Ryan Pace Signs Glennon, But Quarterback Picture Remains Unclear”

    Seems $55.5 Million clear to me ….

    Get me the contracts of Dont’a Hightower and Zach Brown, Mr. Pace. Redeem thyself and make my team better today … instead of saving money everywhere FFS.

    • BerwynBomber

      Only 19M guaranteed on a three-year deal. That is peanuts for an NFL starting QB not on a rookie deal.

      • Irish Sweetness

        24 million I read. 24 million dollars … for absolutely nothing. Peanuts? No. Far from.

  • Irish Sweetness

    “DaBearsBlog

    @dabearsblog
    If you’re a Bears fan and you root against the Bears starting QB…you’re not a Bears fan.”

    Does that include the Ditch-Cutler brigade? I’m pretty sure he was our starter for ten years.

    • willbest

      I think there is a difference when the GM can do something about it. We can’t do anything about Glennon (assuming he signed the papers already). He is the Bears QB1 in 2017. Nothing else to be done about it but wish him the best.

    • BerwynBomber

      There is a difference between wanting a different QB (or someone off the team) and rooting against the team and that player.

      Anyway, Hoyer received the same treatment.

      Mentioned this below, but really no NFL QBs are universally beloved by their fan base, short of Brady.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Fuck Hoyer, quite frankly. I don’t/didn’t consider him a Bear. He was a joe hired out of desperation when the first two went down. He was never the “Bears’ starting QB” .. .he was starting because two other guys couldn’t play. He was a third stringer.

        Fales was with us for years, so he gets respect (from me). Shaw is still with us, he gets respect. So will Glennon, until he doesn’t.

        Most of all, Jay gets my respect. He was a starter in the NFL for what … 11 .. 12 years? That’s an achievement. I hope he wins a superbowl, I really do.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

          McManis is longest tenured bear.

          So by that logic, he gets more respect than Long or Howard.

          • Irish Sweetness

            You don’t get respect based on your tenure. Howard was (should always have been) a starter for us. He was drafted to be a Bear, and he deserves it. Hoyer was a guy brought in after two injuries to our QBs. He played football in a way that I don’t appreciate it being played. At least with Cutty he tried to win games. He’d put it in that window it didn’t belong, because we sucked moose wang, and he believed he could carry us on his back. Good for him. That shows moxie, balls. Hoyer? He was afraid to throw incompletions or get his socks dirty. Nah, fuck that guy.

      • Scharfinator

        Rodgers and Brees seem to be golden childs as well, but I think your comment still holds water.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

      Weren’t you leading that brigade when you wanted McCown and Fitz over Cargo?

      Just tap into 2014 Irish. What was your rational for that?

      To make the Bears better, right?

      • Irish Sweetness

        Yes, after 2014, I would happily have had that stop-gap in place and traded Cutty for something. Sit tight and wait for a crappy season and a good draft.

        But for me he was a different QB in ’15. I think he turned a corner in his head. He did the things he needed to do to be a better QB.

        And now he’s gone, and that’s that.

        Next Chapter.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

          See, you THINK he turned the corner.

          Pace and the rest of the NFL didn’t see it that way.

          • Irish Sweetness

            No, he DID turn a corner. That’s what I think NOW. It’s what I thought THEN also. He threw the ball away more and had himself a decent year. I don’t count last season. Nobody here knows what he was playing with. Some of those passes were too bad to be true, even for him.

            He may still be injured. That’s the only rationale I can see Pace having for essentially swapping a jock for a nerd. They know he can’t play so they’re doing him a solid by not holding on for a trade – or they know it’s so bad that no other doctor would pass him medically.

            He could retire now.

          • MB30SD

            Irish… The entire NFL just told you what’s up.

            You’re Irish. In Thailand.

            The entire NFL.

    • CanadaBear

      Nobody was rooting against Cutler on here. We all wanted him to live up to his potential. When it was obvious it was never going to happen, C-Ya.

  • BerwynBomber

    The Alshon thing will forever baffle me. He finally gets beyond his rookie contract, is the premier FA WR on the market, and he takes … a one-year deal? A true head-scratcher.

    • Irish Sweetness

      He’ll get another one next year. It’s bordering on genius!

      • BerwynBomber

        Not if he gets injured. He’ll lose money. Hence, why every player wants a multi-year deal.

        • willbest

          He is already up 6.5 mil though

          • leftcoastdave

            Its a “fish or cut bait” contract and now his future is in his hands. Or maybe his MO is tagged for life. We shall see if we care to watch.

          • willbest

            The Bears were offering him something between 44-48 million and about half that in guarantees back in 2014 after they tagged him for 14.5 million. It wasn’t much higher after the 2015 season. But if he signed that deal he is already way ahead.

            As I mentioned yesterday, unless he blows out his knee even a bad season is going to result in him getting a $10 million a year deal.

            I have also said that guaranteed portions of contracts aren’t in player’s interest since teams will just cut them if they aren’t performing. So if Jeffery had signed his long term deal with the Bears in 2014, he would be ending the 2017 season with no guarantees and locked into an 11-12 million deal for the next 3 years completely at the whim of the Bears.

            There is no question he made the right decision in 2014. Did he make the right decision this year? It seems like he was still being offered prove it contracts. So he took the best one.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            Bigger risk bigger reward.
            Revis made out e bandit, but Alshon is no Revis

    • AlbertInTucson

      No mystery.

      Teams looked at his track record and and nobody was interested in a multi-year deal.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

        I remember someone saying that if Alshon doesn’t get what he wants, he’ll return.

        That rarely happens.

        What I said would unfold in that scenario unfolded.

        Original GM “low ball” was accurate market.
        FA got a cold dose of reality, and like a petulant child, threw a fit and ran away
        GM could say “I told you so”

        This happened with Kruetz and Urlacher, and a lot of other Bears who were “dissed” by offer then found out they had an over inflated self estimation but got mad at team and didn’t return.

        • willbest

          And yet Alshon has now averaged 14.25 mil since the end of his rookie deal. So 6.5 million more than the rumored 11 mil

      • willbest

        They were. Just not at 14mil

        • BerwynBomber

          Right. And that’s the baffling part. I’m assuming almost every FA can sign a one year deal for a higher annual pay day, but they choose the multi-year guaranteed money for security.

    • CanadaBear

      Take a high paying 1-year deal, establish you’re healthy, hopefully have a productive season and next year he gets tagged again or has one helluva payday. The flip side is not so rosy.

  • Irish Sweetness

    http://www.nfl.com/freeagency#tab=rankings

    It’s the season of Cray. Mario Williams … and .. yes … Dwight Freeney please. Team-friendly contracts. Fuggit.

    And there’s Jay Christopher, down at the 35 spot …

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

      Connor Barwin. Pryor. Hankins. Amukamara, maybe Zach Brown as insurance at ILB.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Pryor and more than that. Taylor Gabriel? Kamar Aiken? Brian Quick?

        Re-sign Deonte Thompson.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

          I’m hoping for Josh Gordon later.

          But if not, Pryor/Meredith/White should be ok.

          Maybe White’s metal leg is better now.

          • leftcoastdave

            It’s bionic. Big secret. That’s why it is taking so long.

    • willbest

      Will you stop with Williams. He is done

      • MB30SD

        Probably freeney too

        • Irish Sweetness

          Ryan doesn’t appear to want to fork out 12 dollars for a player right now.

          • MB30SD

            Yeah, sucks

        • Bender McLugh

          Freeney had a good playoffs though

  • Irish Sweetness

    Somebody mentioned D-Jax below. Wow. Last two years, deep-passing – WITHOUT d-jax … Cousins is rated 59 .. WITH d-jax he’s rated 106.

  • chitownproud85

    Still nothing official yet? The stories yammer on like its done, but no announcement? Mmmk

    • Bender McLugh

      right? no idea what’s taking so long….hopefully it’s because they aren’t actually signing him dammitall

      • Scharfinator

        If Jimmy G did get spotted in Chicago, we may never get Glennon.

        • Bender McLugh

          good by me, absolutely

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

      Didn’t the Bears fire the one guy who was actually competent in management, the guy who negotiates contracts? (Forgot his name – Cliff Stein?)

      • willbest

        The didn’t fire Cliff Stein. Technically the promoted him. But he no longer does the contracts and cap stuff.

  • Johnnywad

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/18858747/what-bears-expect-qb-mike-glennon-2017-nfl-free-agency

    What’s with the negative waves fellas? Everything’s gonna be just fine.

    Edit: Farther down the page under “Best Value” is also interesting.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    hmmm… Jimmy G is in Chicago and post a good bye message to New England. Clearly our alien overlords have abducted him.

    • BearDown100393

      Hoax

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        nope the aliens got him. The short greys got him.

        • BearDown100393

          lol Ok if you insist. More fun anyway with your explanation.

  • BearDown100393

    What if a giraffe arrived in Chicago and nobody took notice?

  • leftcoastdave

    Barkley to SF. Good to see. I hope he emerges as the starter.

    • Johnnywad

      Me too. One less NFC team to worry about contending with.

  • BearDown100393

    Mike Glennon in action: http://i.imgur.com/cTzLPWY.jpg

  • Irish Sweetness

    Gummo’s 5-13 as a starter. Jay finished .500. Let’s see what this kid does. 0.27 is where he’s at.

    • Johnnywad

      Jay has had two winning seasons since arriving.

      Cmon Irish. It was time.

      • Scharfinator

        Yeah, not all the fault is at Jay’s feet either, but it’s time to move on. Hope he has a resurgence somewhere else.

        • Johnnywad

          As do I. He’s surly but I like that he doesn’t give a fuck about the media and their stupid questions.

          • SC Dave

            He’s a bit McMahon-like in that regard.

      • Irish Sweetness

        In retrospect it certainly its. Lots of years, one playoffs. Move on. It’s done.

        But 5-13 …..

    • 505Bears

      Haha gummo. He does look like he could eat some spaghetti in the tub

  • chitownproud85

    Looks like Packers’ Cooks is testing the market – ARod must be getting mighty pissy up there. Ol Ted Thompson seems to be shitting the bed

    • BerwynBomber

      The Cheese letting Hyde walk might be more damaging. He was a versatile, young, super-sub who showed playmaking flashes.

      Losing Cook will hurt them, but because of Rodgers, you can always duct tape that O and get by. Their D is a whole different matter.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

      Cook finally lived up to his potential and they’re gonna let him go?

      Go pack go!

      • willbest

        They overpaid Nick Perry though.

  • Eric Allen

    i wanted Uncle Rico. he could throw a football over them mountains

  • Eric Allen

    with a QB draft class that is meh at best and a free agency market that is awful, it is hard to fault Pace with trying something new. Romo? Cutler lite. Osweiller? Cmon. Glennon looks like Matt Ryan. If he plays like it, we will be in good shape. If not, who thought we were going to the super bowl next year?

  • Johnnywad

    I’m surprised at how many Bears fans are in some level of shock at the last few days’ news.

    I was a Cutler backer forever. He completely lost me in Tampa last season. That was a game run by a dude that either couldn’t or wouldn’t anymore. I don’t know which. I always thought at a minimum he was a fighter. So I’m assuming his throwing hand was/is fucked. Nonetheless, injuries and back story dictate it’s time for a change. So we move on. He’s far from irreplaceable. He’s good (perhaps WAS good is more appropriate, we’ll see) but he’s average.

    AJ looks the part. But he’s not producing. Period. Six touchdowns in two seasons, with only two of them last season. That’s not getting you a #1 deal and I’m glad Pace was smart enough to know that. He tagged him last year in an effort to explore it one more year. Didn’t pan out. The league bore that out as well. He may go on to have a great season in Philly. He may get an extension and be a five year top ten WR. But his track record suggests otherwise.

    Pace is not playing scared. He’s leading with a plan and making long term decisions. We all keep saying he’s got a decade plus of shitty drafting and FA acquisition to clean up after. Can’t do that in two seasons. So here we are.

    All he’s done thus far is clean up. Glennon is a stop gap. Nothing more. His contract reflects what a stop gap starter with unknown upside costs. And he can be cut pretty much anytime after this year without much pain. It’s a shrewd move. Hopefully it pays off.

    • leftcoastdave

      I don’t disagree and only wish Pace would have landed Ricky Wagner. Dion Simms will be a good blocking tight end with a lot of upside. But with a great middle three and amazingly adequate tackles, this is the best OL the bears have had in quite some time. Simms was a great pick up with his big body and much needed.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

      For me it’s not so much shock as deflation.

      It’s not so much Alshon or Cutty

      But the other guys he didn’t get (like Bouye, Gilmore, Jefferson, or even dudes like Jack Doyle).

      Not saying signing all of them, but at least one big name to fill a need would’ve been nice.

      Is it possible Prince turns out better than Gilmore? – maybe

      (remember Pace skipping on Norman last season and having to start Bausby?)

      Will Demps outperform Jefferson? Maybe

      But the adage usually rings true – you get what you pay for.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Jack Doyle got a HUGE amount of money. HUGE. It’s the RT he didn’t get that I’m pissed about.

  • Malice Halice

    We can still make solid moves in FA fellas there’s hope. I’m not gonna stop saying T.Pryor (remember I said it 1st). He would be great with Cam n Wheaton.
    My next prediction is Malcom Butler. He may not be a moon for the Pats but for us he would be a star.
    And still have some change left to fill another plug.

  • BearDown100393
    • Bender McLugh

      looks like the Garden State to me

  • leftcoastdave

    Duh? “It’s Time for the Chicago Bears to Commit to a Full Rebuild”

    I wonder what this guy thinks has been happening the last two years?

    http://withthefirstpick.com/2017/03/10/time-chicago-bears-commit-full-rebuild/

  • willbest

    Jeff shouldn’t kid himself. Missing on the top 3 FA DBs was a massive fail. The Bears don’t have the Browns draft picks. They have to land talent in FA. And now that they let Jeffery walk they have nobody to pay the next 2 years. They have a retired coach, a shitty rep, and in a bankrupt state. The 1 thing they have is 70 million in cash to spend and they didn’t use it.

    It doesn’t even matter if they overpay because there is no risk of ending up in a cap crunch

    • Captain Obvious

      No, I see the point he’s making. Paying for top-tier CB talent when you’re not secure in half of your offensive skill positions is pointless. It’d be like signing Calvin Johnson and Julio Jones with no QB on your roster. Actually, no, it wouldn’t be like that. That’s just a goofy exaggeration.

      Point is, there’s something to be said for the argument that a high-priced CB is the final piece of the puzzle. “Missing” out on overpriced DB talent isn’t missing if you aren’t realistically contending for a playoff spot. Until the QB position is solved, there’s no point overpaying for anyone.

      • leftcoastdave

        And until one can be found who is other than a shot in the dark, keep your powder dry and put together the other pieces you need. Those pieces which would help a QB the most are T’s to keep him alive. The targets are there. Not pro-bowl class, but WR’s are available in the draft. QB’s? Not so much.

        • Irish Sweetness

          We don’t have time or the talent to develop at WR. Wheaton is good. Pick up a couple more like that. Done.

      • willbest

        Other than they are required to average 92-93% of cap. And there is no him grown talent to spend it on. Oh and you can’t wait to build your team until you have Aaron Rodgers. Sometimes Russel Wilson falls in your lap

        • Captain Obvious

          Did I say that? Did Jeff say that? No.

          What I said is that you shouldn’t overpay for talent to fill in holes when you’ve got more than just a few holes on your team.

          Rebuild, sure. Get value signings. I’d put Trevathan and Freeman in that category. Guys who have years left and are good, but you aren’t breaking the bank to add them to be the cherry on top of your sundae.

          Our sundae still needs ice cream. No point shooting a bunch of whipped cream on top of the hot fudge yet.

          Hmmm… I think I’m hungry.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            “What I said is that you shouldn’t overpay for talent to fill in holes when you’ve got more than just a few holes on your team.”

            But you’ve got to start plugging in those holes EVENTUALLY (it’s yr 3 for Pace) and can’t just rely on the draft cuz that’s a crapshoot.

            I have nothing against “value picks” , but where has Tre, Freeman, Young, McPhee, Porter, Miller, Massie, Royal…gotten us?

            To 3 wins.

            And a roster deplete of PLAYMAKERS.

        • BerwynBomber

          Not a Rodgers or Wilson expectation. You can win with less. But you do need some Eli or Flacco-like security. And right now we have a sort of unknown, veteran QB slated to start whom we are paying $18.5M guaranteed over a three year deal, which hardly screams “franchise!”, and a guy who is a borderline PS-level dude.

          I’m all for shoring up other positions via FA and the draft, but I can see not going all in on a huge, Juluis Peppers-like signing.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            “You can win with less”

            IF you have a good supporting cast which FA can complement.

      • BerwynBomber

        Agreed. The NFL is always a game of fixing new leaks, but the rebuild is not where it should be and until the QB position is settled mid-to-long-term, no need to worry about losing out on a Gilmore, Buyoe or Johnson.

        Plus, I’m assuming Pace will address CB in the second tier of FAs.

        • willbest

          So Seattle’s method is BS?

          • BerwynBomber

            Were they signing top-tier FA DBs prior to Wilson? I believe Sherman, Thomas and Chancellor were all drafted.

          • willbest

            They bought the dline

          • BerwynBomber

            Fair enough. But a) was that prior to Wilson, and b) were any of those guys huge money?

            Hey, different ways to skin a cat. I’m only arguing that just because Pace didn’t sign Gilmore, Buoye or Johnson doesn’t mean it’s a total loss of an off-season.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            It’s not a total loss – but a 3 win team needs a shot of enthusiasm (and obviously talent). It’s psychological, but Pacebot is following his predetermined program.

            Or maybe he really doesn’t want to win this yr eyeing a HIS HC and QB in the next draft.

          • willbest

            And lynch

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

        But don’t you want to build a good team so that when you do find a franchise he’s not on a shitty team?

        Bears could afford to frontload contracts and there’s a minimum they must pay eventually. Can’t just roll over cap perpetually, which tends to lead to what the Jags did last offseason and severely overpay just to get to that min.

        Bears are just gonna tread water till they find a franchise QB?

        How long will that take? Seems defeatist.

        Don’t think Pace should go all Redskins/Jags

        But one big FA per offseason is more than feasible not just for the “bottom line” but psychologically for those players in that locker room, and PR sending messages to future FAs that the Bears are actually trying to win.

        Right now the perception is, Bears are a loser organization. Stay away. Essentially ceding FA only confirms it to a lot of potential FAs.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Pace is drafting his DBs.

  • Captain Obvious

    Maybe the plan is to re-sign Cutler at the vet minimum to back up giraffeneck.

  • 505Bears

    Sims signing was a good one.

    • BerwynBomber

      I like the Glennon one too. Best of a bad situation. The guaranteed money says they will draft a kid this year or next, and if Glennon shits the bed, he is only a one year mistake.

      • willbest

        Glennon’s deal is structured to draft a QB at #3 and that angers me

        • Captain Obvious

          They don’t have to take one this year, though. If he’s adequate, they can (and maybe should) wait until 2018 to draft a QB. Of course, they won’t know he’s adequate until October-ish…

          I see Peterman this year. Next year, panic button if neither Peterman or Glennon can do the job at a high enough level.

          • willbest

            You don’t find out if he is adequate until camp at a minimum which is well after the draft. Basically, Pace has a QB in mind at #3 and if he gets taken by San Fran or the Browns then he has Glennon to fall back on. Glennon is also there so that the rookie can get the Goff treatment if he isn’t ready.

          • Johnnywad

            That’s what I’m thinking as well.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Firing you mean. Pace is ditching Cutty for Glennon. If Glennon shits the bed, that’s on Pace. Bye bye.

            “If in doubt, do nothing.”

            -Sun Tzu, Art of War.

        • BerwynBomber

          Could be at #36. Could be a mid-round guy. Could be first round in ’18. To me those are the three options beyond your nightmare.

          P.S. the only thing that annoys me is that Pace didn’t pursue a QB in the draft his first two years.

          • willbest

            Well they are setting themselves up to have a high draft pick next seasons so ’18 is a possibility. But nothing is certain. They might win 7-8 games and be out of the top 3 QB sweeps without coughing up 4-6 picks over the next 2 years. And if you are giving up picks to get THE QB you aren’t building anything else through the draft. To FA!!! oh wait, we aren’t in FA. Which is why I am convinced Pace’s QB is in this year’s draft. That makes him #3 or #36.

            Which QB are you betting your career on, and will be available at #36? Glennon is your insurance policy in case Browns or San Fran draft the QB Pace wants.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            Going after a QB in the mid rounds, you mean?

            Which mid round QB (besides Dak) would you have liked Pace to draft?

            (and keep in mind, that would possibly mean no Amos or Howard)

          • BerwynBomber

            Not necessarily. Wentz was obviously available for the right price. And yeah, though drafting a mid-round guy is a longshot success, why not spin the bottle? Most likely a failure but look at the three position players we picked up in last year’s 4th round. It’s not like those guys are guaranteed successes either.

            Basically, until you have your franchise QB, you should take your shot at it every year or two.

            And re-signing Clausen I never liked. We weren’t gonna win anything immediately. Why not put a young development kid — even a castoff like Shaw — behind Cutler?

            I like Pace and realize his hands were tied with Cutler and appreciate his effort regarding Mariota but I also think he made mistakes.

          • willbest

            It has to be because they like somebody reliable running the 2’s in practice and holding the clipboard on the sideline. I never understood why a team wastes a roster spot on plays not to lose QB unless they have a monster D.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            You would’ve traded ?

            No. 8 (or Floyd)
            Third-round pick (Bullard)
            Fourth-round pick (Kwiatowski )
            First-round pick in ’17 (Hooker?)
            Second-round pick in ’18 (starter…)

            For Wentz?

            Edit. Gotta remember that Cargo came off arguably his best yr.

            I could see that argument in retrospect – unless Wentz busts

            The Browns don’t have buyer’s remorse, supposedly.

          • willbest

            He needs to have a good sophmore season. And Jeffery should help. In fact, Jeffery set himself up nicely. He is going to get his numbers if he stays healthy. And getting his numbers means $30-35 mil guaranteed.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Carson Wentz is a shmuck.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Which means he may not do it now.

  • Johnnywad
  • Captain Obvious

    By the way, I’m all-in on baptizing Glennon as “Jeffrey”

    https://candybarbie.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/geoffrey.jpg

    • Captain Obvious

      Whoops, apparently it’s “Geoffrey”

      • beninnorcal

        Uncle Rico does not approve of this.

  • Captain Obvious
    • Bender McLugh

      LOL

  • CanadaBear

    A few of you guys were besides yourself bitching about Pace not landing Gilmore. He got $40 mil guaranteed from the Pats. I’m not sure the Bears could have offered enough to ever get him to change his mind. $40 mil (min) and a chance to be in the SB every year vs …

    • willbest

      We didn’t even match is what the rumor was. And that is only 2.5 years. That is what you give a 26 year old CB that can take away the ball.

      • CanadaBear

        Give Pace credit for knowing he was never gonna land him.

    • MB30SD

      Fair statement. How about bouye?

      • willbest

        Its hard to compete with the Florida teams and then the Jags play a game in Texas for a 9th game without income tax.

        • MB30SD

          Hmmmmmm

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

          Perception is reality.

          The Jags are “perceived” to be loading up and making a run in a weak ass division (think “Eagles Dream Team”)

          Texans are “a QB away” by ad nauseaum narrative, so players want to be a part of that.

          Bears are…crickets…

          • willbest

            Unwilling to win.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            With a checked out HC and young cheap GM.

            That’s the perception.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Jags did the same thing last off-season, spent big, and then played like asshats.

      • CanadaBear

        Maybe he was concerned about the 1-year wonder. Hell I’m nowhere near Pace’s biggest fan around here but let’s give him a few days before we go nuts.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

          White was a COLLEGE 1-yr wonder. (I think Floyd was too)
          McPhee was a PART TIME 1-yr wonder.

          I don’t think Pace is timid when it comes to gambling on them, as long as they’re cheap.

          Is Pace Scottish?

          • CanadaBear

            He might be reconsidering that plan after the last couple of years.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

      Yes, but how about Gilmore?

  • willbest

    CB Prince Amukamara to the bears

    • Bender McLugh

      just saw that, I don’t know him at all but he’s got to be better than Porter.

      • willbest

        He has injury problems. And was on a 1 year 5.5 million prove it deal with the Jags. Who decided to sign Bouye instead.

      • willbest

        I don’t know about that

        2016

        Prince – 14 games, 12 starts – 6 PD, 46 tackles, 3 assists
        Porter – 16 games, 15 starts – 2 INT, 9 PDs, 1 FF, 45 tackles, 3 assists

        • Malice Halice

          His INT’S r some SNATCHES tho. Only against a rb, #14 on the skins, and somebody else. But he definitely took the ball out they hands. So he CAN bring turnovers.

        • MB30SD

          Deeeum… Porter!!!

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            And by most accounts, Porter was playing inj the whole yr while shadowing the #1WR with shitty S help

            I respect that dude.

            Fuller on the other hand…

          • willbest

            A lot of people dumped on Porter the whole year and I never understood it. The guy competes.

          • Irish Sweetness

            ???
            He was burned every single week on go routes.

          • MB30SD

            exactly

          • CanadaBear

            There’s no doubt in my mind that Porter was dinged up last year and sucked it up each week. Unlike a certain draft pick.

        • BerwynBomber

          The Porter hate on this blog has always surprised me. Yes, he looked like shit the second half of the year on one leg — though it showed guts. And yes, he’s not a #1. But I still think that was a good pick-up/signing.

          Sorta like Willie Young in that regard.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            I was one of his few defenders early on.

            Like I said – just don’t line him up against TY Hilton types on a bum leg!

            To me, he’s just a playmaker (perhaps our only one in the secondary).

            That play where he peanut punched the ball from a Lion’s player at the goaline sticks out to me.

            Lions were about to score, knows they need a play, knocks it out.

            It literally spins at Amos’ feet. He just looks down. The Lions jump on it , recover, they score.

            That’s what a playmaker does and does not look like.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Giving up lots of yardage does not show guts.

        • Bender McLugh

          Well see about his cover skills

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            He’s better against bigger WRs.

            But those small shifty ones burn him since he’s not the spriest of DBs at his age.

            Naturally, Fangio SHOULD know this, but somehow, he doesn’t care.

    • Malice Halice

      Rather have Butler but fuck it. Let’s take erbody who just got dumped cuz weren’t good enough for the prior team.

    • SC Dave

      Pace sure likes the ‘value’ picks.

      • willbest

        Hopefully he is a value pick. His 2016 stats were awful.

        • Johnnywad

          He gets bonus points for an interesting name.

        • SC Dave

          Hence the quotation marks.

    • BerwynBomber

      Bad stats and injury-prone. Welcome aboard, Prince!

      Actually if the guaranteed/commitment is minimal, I’m okay with it. He’s never struck me as particularly good. Nor has he struck me as a disaster. Big thing is durability.

      • willbest

        Its a 1 year deal from what I heard on the radio.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

      I like it as a bargain-bin deal.
      He’s a bit inconsistent, but in some ways he’s like a Porter-level talent IMO.
      At least he should offer competition to Fuller (rolls eyes) and some depth for Porter.

      From the contract it’s not like we’re married to him, so can still draft a CB to start over him if necessary.

    • Irish Sweetness

      For real? Bye Tracy.

      • willbest

        Potter is better

  • willbest

    The more I think about the Oz thing, the more annoyed I am that Pace didn’t do it. We could have just used him as our QB1 this year. Could have traded Cutler and our 2nd, for Oz their 1st and 4th or something.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

      NOOOOOOBOODY wants Cutler.
      The market has spoken. Like I said months ago, he’s the 17 version of Fitz.

      Teams will try like hell to fill their QB need, then, and only then, will they turn to Cargo.

      Maybe Pace is planning to roll over the cap for a big moves next season.

      • willbest

        The market hasn’t even begun to speak.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

          It always speaks.
          The big names are practically signed before it “officially” kicks off.
          Then, it’s like 2nd tier guys.

          If you’re still around by sunday, you’re a “journey man” unless some odd situation pops up

          • willbest

            As I said, he can’t pass a physical yet, still in rehab. Its not as simple as here is a bunch of money. Plus Romo is the prize of the vets but Jerra threw a wrench into everybody’s plans by being a dick.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            Like I said, teams are going to try like hell for anyone but Cargo, and only after the QB market dries up, then Cargo ala Fitz 16.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Negotiation is a process.

      • BerwynBomber

        I am not sure. I could see Cutler having one more shot at glory with HOU, which is really the best win-now place to land for any QB as their D basically carries their marginal QBs into the playoffs.

        But if I’m HOU I”m either going Romo and draft pick. Or maybe McCarron. Cutler would smell too much like Fitz, Oz and Shaub, even though he is certainly better than the first two.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

          If Houston wanted Cutler, they could’ve had him for what, a 6th? (and all the “cap masters” swear his contract is cheap), so what’s their reluctance?

          Think we all know the answer to that.

          • BerwynBomber

            Cap room. They can get him for cheaper now. Again, I would not go there if I were them, but I can see them settling on him if they lose the Romo sweepstakes to DEN.

            OTOH, I don’t think Elway will touch Cutler.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            Yes, I agree.

            The key word “settling” like the Jets with Fitz last season.

          • willbest

            1) You have to be right with the cap at all times.
            2) You don’t trade for players that can’t pass their physical

            That is why the Bears cut Cutler rather than try and hold on like Jerry is doing with Romo. Cutler had to agree to be released injured.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Jesus Will. Are you trolling?

  • willbest

    Jeff should have a poll question. “Are the Bears going to appear on the pre-season rankings at 32nd or does that honor belong to the 9ers?”

    • Irish Sweetness

      Jeff didn’t do a Cutler poll when that was all there was to talk about.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Dontari Poe is still out there but there are major questions about a back issue and an agent who has him way overpriced. -Per NFL Network Radio.

    • willbest

      Headed for a 1 year deal

      • MB30SD

        I’ll take a flyer on his fat ass

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

      He was also ineffective last season, even in the run game where one would assume he excels.

      Pass.

      I’d prefer Hankins.

  • willbest

    RG3 is available.

    • willbest

      Chandler Jones got PAID. $53 mil guaranteed.

    • willbest

      Peppers to finish his career in Carolina.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

        I think he still graded out well. Always been a physical freak, only question was his motor, but if he’s still playing at this age, maybe he loves the game more than ppl assumed (or $$$)

        He reminds me of Alshon in a lot of ways.

        • BerwynBomber

          I wonder if Pep was dealing with some significant injuries that last year with us.

          He has been remarkably durable throughout his career, which is usually an indication of a high pain threshold and a guy who will suit up regardless.

          Plus, I never felt he was as bad that last year as some others. I remember he had a fucking monster game in a win over BAL and then Jeff or AD said the next day that he had played “okay”. SMH …

          • willbest

            2013 was a year of if the MG went in, if they didn’t stare at the football, if the holding on 1 play got called, etc. We would have won the division. I tend to think that year lined Peppers, Briggs, and Gloud up for worse thoughts about them than they were.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            That was usually the way it went with Peppers. He could dominate games, but then disappear the next.

            He always seemed to step up against the Puke though. I think he genuinly disliked Vadgers going all the way back to Carolina.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgxRMeq25WE

        • CanadaBear

          He looked pretty avg when I saw him last year. Hope he doesn’t stay one year too long and get seriously hurt.

      • SC Dave

        Good for him.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    LMAO, Browns release RGIII…

    They’re gonna draft ANOTHER QB

    • willbest

      Rumor is they either are going to trade for G or draft one at 12

      • burntorangenavyblue

        At this point, I’m more inclined to approach this draft of the top 8 picks with this mentality:

        Which team will entertain us with the biggest goof-up. Hard to even try to be optimistic because the chances of getting a sure-fire pick is a crapshoot….and moreso when several organizations are acting like they are playing Madden.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          I’m sure the Jets and 49ers won’t disappoint

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

        Jimmy G twit got “hacked” where he bid farewell to Boston.

        hmmmmm

        • willbest

          Pats got greedy and the trade partner backed out.

      • Irish Sweetness

        JImmy tweeted that he was done in NE and hinted he was a Brown ? Then … crickets.

  • willbest

    oline – Leno, Sitton, WH, Long, Massie
    QB – Glennon
    RB – Howard
    RB2 – Langford
    WR1 – Meredith
    WR2 – Wheaton
    WR3 – White
    WR4 – Bellamy

    TE1 – Miller
    TE2 – Sims

    Dline – Hicks, Goldman, Unrien
    OLBs – Floyd, McPhee, Young
    ILBs – Freeman, Kwit, Trevathan (maybe)

    DBs – Porter, Prince, Amos (?), Demps, Callahan

    • ButtonShoes

      That’s a lineup that inspires fear in no one.

      • Tortured Bear fan

        only us

      • MB30SD

        dude, you used up all of the massive pool of negativity yesterday.

        Let’s move to wait and see now, huh puppies and rainbows?

        • willbest

          It was made worse by not being able to drink thanks to the mutant virus. It would be out of my system by now otherwise.

          Now I see us picking up Jag castoffs with an injury history worse than Cutler’s to be a starting CB…

          • MB30SD

            yes, but we knew that yesterday right?

            and trust me, we ALL whined and bitched like morons yesterday.

            Let’s try to pull it tofuckinggether today and see how it all shakes out.

            After all, all we’re looking for it 6-8 wins next year right?

          • willbest

            Good lord I hope not. 2-14. 2-0 against the Packers.

          • MB30SD

            so what’s new man?!?

          • ButtonShoes

            I’d take that. High pick plus you make the Peckers miserable. Plus going 2-14 gets Fox fired, and maybe even Pace too!

          • evantonio

            6-8 wins in the first 6-8 weeks.

            BEAR DOWN.

          • MB30SD

            HOF!!!

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

      Prince returned from the dead and is now in the NFL?

      Dude is amazing.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Need a RB, ILB, OLB, DE, OT, S.

      • willbest

        RB is so far down our list of needs it ranks right above interior oline men

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Shouldn’t the new Fast and Furious movie be called- The Fast and the Furious: AARP

  • willbest

    “Here’s the thing on Cutler. I like him. But, you know, the league is not lining up for his services right now.” – Jeff

    Might have something to do with the fact that he is physically unable to play and still rehabbing his shoulder so there isn’t any way to properly evaluate him.

    • BerwynBomber

      Maybe. But even healthy the market might not be a feeding frenzy for his services.

      Cutler could still end up golden if HOU settles on him. #1 D in the NFL and a franchise with short but established history of pulling marginal QBs to the post-season. Mind, I would go the McCarron or Siemian route if losing out on Romo, but I could see them talking themselves into Jay.

      Jay’s not stupid. There is a reason he wants to go HOU. Every FA QB should want to. DEN is not bad either except that their O-line is atrocious.

      • willbest

        Houston legitimately is 1 QB away from the promised land. Especially if Watt comes back even at 80% JJ

        • BerwynBomber

          True but at this point they should be looking to draft someone. The history of their FA quick fixes isn’t that good.

          But in reality … whichever QB steps into the HOU situation is arguably stepping into one of the top five spots in the league. Arguably the only three that would be better are NE, DAL and ATL in terms of overall team — supporting cast.

          • willbest

            Bring in Cutler to bridge, draft Mahomes at ~25.

          • Scharfinator

            I think they’re in win now mode. Brian, or whatever their coaches is named, doesn’t have a lot of time left to keep putting up average seasons.

    • Ososfan

      Supposedly he was let go because of a failed physical….

      • willbest

        That is a designation that entitles cutler to certain rights under the CBA, but I suspect he waved them in order to get released at the start of FA so his agent could get to work

  • willbest

    Linemen (both sides) and DB’s are seeing $$$. WRs not so much. Are these spread offenses creating an abundance of talented young WRs that are NFL ready and thus elite talent becomes less valuable?

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

      That’s what I was thinking.
      But then, it’s a deeper CB than WR class, so wouldn’t that mean FA CBs would come as cheap? (And CB FAs flew like hot cakes)

  • willbest

    Barth is back!

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

      SB bound.

    • SC Dave

      Hossana!

  • MB30SD

    so we have Glennon and Shaw in the house?

    Well, guess there’s no need for a poker face re: the draft. I’m just hoping we get a guy in the 3rd+ and not #3

    • Scharfinator

      As long as whoever we take at #3 blows our nips off, I’m fine with it….

      • MB30SD

        agree.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

      You forgot Irish HOFer Fales!

      • MB30SD

        didn’t we cut that cuck?!?

      • willbest

        Not on the roster.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

          Doesn’t need to be. Fales is that great. He can just show up 5 mins before the first game.

          • Irish Sweetness

            David will be in the stands, with his bag beside him. Just in case.

    • Irish Sweetness

      So you want the lesser QB …

      • MB30SD

        Don’t think it’ll matter next yr. Didn’t want to drop 19M for no improvement.

        #Logic

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Peppers back to Panthers….

    Meanwhile Newton still gets knocked onto his ass

  • MB30SD
  • MB30SD
  • willbest

    Brandon Marshall vouched for Cutler’s ability to handle the NY media. The bromance resumes?

    • Johnnywad

      Cutler could handle any media. He truly doesn’t care what they write.

      That’s one of my favorite things about the guy. Comfy in his own skin.

      • willbest

        Easier to be comfy in your own skin when you have fuck you money. But he did very much care in his youth. The wife and kids grounded him.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Nope. Just saw him talking about Jay, said they were brothers .. .that don’t speak.

  • MB30SD

    hahahaha, and the only two player moves to receive Cs are from/involve which NFL team…

    http://www.si.com/nfl/2017/03/09/nfl-free-agency-2017-grades

    • CanadaBear

      When you start using SI to backup your beliefs, it’s a sad day in Bearland.

      • MB30SD

        hahahaha… I just thought it was funny

  • MB30SD

    Buck up yonny! Still plenty of guys left out there: http://fansided.com/2017/02/08/nfl-free-agency-complete-list-players-available/

    • CanadaBear

      Lots of guys there that would be an improvement on the Bears roster.

      • MB30SD

        as would my left testicle canada

        • CanadaBear

          Have you worn out the right?

          • MB30SD

            yeah, I’m partitioning

          • CanadaBear

            I like a man with a plan!

  • ButtonShoes

    The more I listen to Ryan Pace speak, the more I can’t stand him.

    • MB30SD

      shocking

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      The more read ButtonShoes, the more I can’t stand him.

      • ButtonShoes

        I ain’t too fond of you either, buddy.

        • evantonio

          liar.

  • willbest

    7 million for Prince? Good lord. We are worse off than the Browns

    • Malice Halice

      If we don’t spend our cap money this year , does it layover to the next? Could that be Pace’s scheme?

      • willbest

        It does

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

        That’s what we thought last off-season.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

      Not a king’s ransom

      eh, eh?

      • willbest

        He didn’t earn the 5.5 mil the jags paid him last year. I don’t know how a raise is warranted. And if you think there is value there why not get a second year option?

  • BearDown100393

    There is no plan.

  • Tortured Bear fan

    IDK it seems Watson or die in first round, but I´d feel frustrated without neither Hooker nor Adams

    • willbest

      We got Demps, we don’t need those guys

    • MB30SD

      your name says it all

    • Irish Sweetness

      He’s not paying Glennon to draft a QB at #3 methinks …

      If he trades down, then I’ll take my foot off his throat.

      • Tortured Bear fan

        Hahaha!!

  • MB30SD

    pryor to the fucking redskins?!?

    Pro Bowl safety Mike Adams joins Panthers

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/nflfreeagency17signings/2017-nfl-free-agency-signings-reaction-moves-deals

    • BearDown100393

      What were you really expecting?

      • MB30SD

        maybe not a team that just fired their fucking GM and who’s chise asked to get the FUCK outta dodge.

        Are we really a worse landing spot than the skins or browns. Holy sheite muslim!

        • BearDown100393

          Mike Glennon

          • MB30SD

            ok ok

          • BearDown100393

            Mike Glennon

          • MB30SD

            OK!!!!!

          • BearDown100393

            Mike Glennon

    • SC Dave

      I wonder if the Panthers want Fournette. He’d be perfect for them.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

        That would be perfect for them barring a stud OT

      • Irish Sweetness

        Well they can just wish for the #3 pick then, cos that’s where he’s getting drafted.

  • BearDown100393
    • MB30SD

      workin’ hard! Gettin’ it going in the right direction!

      • BearDown100393

        You mean the top pick?

        • MB30SD

          seems that way

          • BearDown100393

            We would trade it to reacquire Jay

          • MB30SD

            hahahaha, I would fucking die laughing.

          • BearDown100393

            And then extend Pace and Fox

  • willbest

    1) no plan at WR. Wheaton should be Royal’s replacement. Not Jeffery

    2) failed to upgrade tackle coming into a weak tackle draft

    3 &4) failure to land an impact defensive back despite several available

    5) Keep Fox as HC if you were even considering drafting a QB at #3

    6) Not demanding the wholesale replacement of the S&C staff.

    7) Failure to not understand what the Bears organization has become and what is necessary to rebuild it (ie guarantees)

    8) picking up old and injured players as stop gaps and giving them starter money

    9) Bidding against himself to acquire a stop gap QB and front loading the contract to encourage a holdout in the event he becomes more

    10) Bears starting QB Mike Glennon

    Okay so he did make my top 10

    • BearDown100393

      Pace don’t care

    • ButtonShoes

      That list pretty much sums it up.

    • Irish Sweetness

      1. Who said Wheaton was to replace Jeffrey? Two different receivers. Meredith is the same size as Jeffrey. Kevin isn’t small. There are a lot of receivers with no contracts out there, some, like Pryor, who are better than AJ.

      • willbest

        Pryor was a 1 year wonder and is a redskin

  • BearDown100393

    If you were GM, who would you bring in as QB?

    Mike Glennon.

    You’re hired.

  • BearDown100393

    A serious moment of clarity. All season long. Patiently waiting for “the plan”. Accepting the losses. Taking it all in stride. Because it would be worth it. “The Plan” would soon arrive. And all would (begin to) be better again.

    And then yesterday happened.

    Mike Glennon.

    Thud.

    • MB30SD

      have to agree it was a pretty fucking big kick in deez.

      I was expecting us to:

      * Release cutler (yay!)
      * Not overpay for AJ (yay!)

      …but then bring on:

      * Hoyer and barkley for a couple shekels ($6 and what $2ish?) and let them all fight it out in camp/preseason
      – WHY you ask?? because how much better will Mike “Chicken Neck” Glennon and his $13M more really be?!?

      * Wagner
      * Bouye and/or Gilmore
      * Jefferson

      THAT would have been the plan I was looking for… but yeah, pretty much a big ass thud SO FAR.

      I’m waiting and seeing.

      • Ososfan

        As soon as the super champs showed interest in Gilmore, I believe that was the end of discussions…

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Let’s chalk it up to the decisions being made due to a hacked social media account.

    Oh….someone already has that excuse?

    Hmmm, what could it be….

  • SC Dave

    Okay, so I’m eating.

    Non-GMO,Gluten Free, No hydrogenated oils, and no artificial preservatives, colors, or flavors. And Made In America to boot!

    Sounds great, eh?

    Fucking potato chips.

    • MB30SD

      fat

      • SC Dave

        40% reduced, at that!

        Goddamn Costco.

        • MB30SD

          down to 9 grams for 3 chips?

          like my ex always used to say, OMG, I got such a great deal on these! They were only $345!!!! WHat do you mean that’s ridiculous… they were on sale!!! They USED to be $500!!! I saved $165!!

          • SC Dave

            Dont make me look. I’ll cry.

        • MB30SD

          They’re trying to take over the world

          http://southpark.cc.com/clips/103420/japanese-charm

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      I wish I could say that is the most depressing thing I read on here today.

      • MB30SD

        hahaha

  • Malice Halice

    Aight fellas, this off-season been a waste of me time. I’ll check back in when something prideful happens. Peace oot

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      WOOHOO!

      • MB30SD

        Be nice

  • MB30SD
  • Ososfan

    I have a problem with the org, AGAIN raising ticket prices with not much to show for it….

    • MB30SD

      Here’s their logic.

      ‘Ok, go watch the other Chicago Bears team play on Sundays then’

      • Ososfan

        I suspect Soldier Field will be pretty empty by mid season if no progress seems to be made….

        • Johnnywad

          But the tickets will still be sold.

          • SC Dave

            All that matters.

          • CanadaBear

            I’m sure mgmt would like to see a full stadium for all the parking and concessions. When else would you ever get a chance to see the Beloved/Fudgies play for $25? That was the going price for tix on the after market last Dec.

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog Could you imagine if Ted Thompson went and built a big time defense? Holy hell. Packers wouldn’t be beatable. Not by Pats. Not by anyone.”

    Yup. Will be the epitaph on Rodgers one NFL championship tombstone.

    Even beyond TT’s lack of personnel moves, the fact that the Cheese continues to retain Capers is also self-defeating/-limiting.

    P.S. Signing Uni isn’t a bad move for them given Cook’s demands, but again, their problem ain’t O.

    • SC Dave

      Imagine Rodgers on the Lovie Bears with Hester.

      Unbeatable.

  • DaMurph

    I’m baffled how they pay this kind of money to a guy that’s played in 2 games in the last two and 8 in the last three years. I hate this fucking move! This is another wasted season unless Pace has some fucking crystal ball which after drafting Kevin Brittle White I just don’t see it. I just don’t know what the fuck to say except I hope we are all wrong!

    • SC Dave

      Glennon is the new Peyton.

      It’s all I got, Murph.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

      Everyone knows MB and i loved us some Hoya, but i always give QBs a chance when they join new team or get a new OC.

      Cutlerites did the same “oh you’ll see a reborn Cutty w Martz, Trestman, Gase…”
      I was among them cuz I’m optimistic (or foolish) by nature.

      I gave that same chance to McCown, Hoyer, Barkley, and now extend that chance to Glennon.

      Since i am optimistic, i can see the Pacebot’s logic.

      Cutler-Kap suck
      Hoyer ceiling is 1 win
      Barkley perennial back up
      Jimmy G, Cousins, McCarron cost too many assets
      Romo , Tyrod, never in play

      What’s left?

      Who can i take a calculated gamble on who wont cost us our draft or anchor our cap while still giving Bears flexibility to draft QB high if necessary?

      Doesn’t mean i agree w rational but if i input the data like Pacebot, i understand it.

      Another plus is that Birdcage squeezed the most out of “journeymen” QBs like Hoyer, Barkley (or even Shaw in PS), so what would Glennon ceiling behind strong oline and run game look like?

      Never know. And if Glennon flames out, take another shot at QB.

      Rinse, wash, repeat.

      • Johnnywad

        Completely agree. We can’t just sit here and bitch about not getting a QB. There aren’t any good ones to be had this week at a fair price. So you do what you can. This was not a bad move given the landscape.

  • willbest

    Okay Jeffery is an idiot. 9.5 mil + .5 workout + 4 mil for a pro bowl appearance? I hope it comes with a no tag clause.

    • BerwynBomber

      I’ll never understand it. Of all the Bears moves/non-moves yesterday, Alshon baffles me most.

      And he is also the biggest indictment on the Pace regime. A top-end talent like that you either need to re-sign or figure out that obstacle earlier and trade him to get something for him. Letting him walk after a rookie deal is not a good look on Pace. We got nothing for him.

      • SC Dave

        It tells me that Alshon has no faith that the Bears are on track to becoming a winning organization.

        • Johnnywad

          Or that Alshon is a fucking retard for not taking a fair deal a year ago and subsequently taking a really weird shitty one this year because literally nobody else thinks he’s as valuable as he does.

          • leftcoastdave

            Thought he was holding a straight flush, but turned out to be aces and eights.

    • BerwynBomber

      Betting on one’s self is a plan worth considering if you are a) an NBA player, or b) a positional MLB player.

      But an NFL player or a MLB pitcher? Fuck No. A one year deal is moronic for where Jeffrey is in his career.

      • willbest

        Jeffery has a different risk profile. Even with the suspension he has made over 20 mil. he also has to give 13% of his earnings to his backers. And who knows what they dictate he does

    • SC Dave

      Better have the no tag, although next year’s tag will be what, $15M?

      • willbest

        Right but if his base pay was 14 mil the tag would be 17 mil.

    • MB30SD

      Bingo!

  • BerwynBomber

    Pats trade for Saints WR Brandin Cooks. 1st and 3rd rounder.
    Wonder if this is also a “tell” in terms of dealing JimmyG and recouping a 1st rounder.

    • willbest

      That is a lot for a WR. Granted the pats 1st and 3rd are basically 2nd and 4th

    • willbest

      I think its more of a tell that Edelman is going to be a free agent next year

      • BerwynBomber

        Of course. But if that is their only first rounder this year, I’m wondering if it says they hope to get it elsewhere … AKA JimmyG trade.

        • willbest

          Possibly but I don’t know who is giving it to them. I know the Browns, and it would be so browns, but they can draft 2 QBs this year and still get all the other players they want

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

      They would rather give that up than sign Alshon w out giving up first?
      Bill is a pretty shrewd evaluator. Maybe Pace should get more slack in that regards

      • willbest

        They obviously see Cooks as the next Moss. Guy is headed into a contract year.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

          That’s what I mean. Pats rather give up drafts AND pay Cooks than sign Alshon for relative peanuts.

          We all know Bill loves his “football character” trait. Maybe there is something to Alshon’s rep. The entire NFL didn’t want him long term.

          • willbest

            Not at the price he was asking. Bears were supposedly offering him 4-year 44 million 2 years ago.

          • leftcoastdave

            Dude made his bed.

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog Are the Bears the worst team in football right now? You know, it doesn’t matter. Because they don’t play football again for 6 months.”

    Nope, we are improving. Basically, the only step back appears to be the loss of Jeffrey.

    Glennon, of course, is a coin flip, but given how Cutler and Barkley played, can’t see our overall QB play going much lower.

    Clowns and Jets will probably fight it out for worst team in ’17.

    • SC Dave

      There is no scenario where losing Alshon makes the Bears a better team.

      • BerwynBomber

        Didn’t mean to imply that was the case. His loss hurts. But I also think we should be as good or even better in other position groups to offset it.

        • SC Dave

          What groups would those be?

      • MB30SD

        Sigh

        • SC Dave

          He was our best receiver by a significant margin, MB.

          • Irish Sweetness

            No, he wasn’t. Cam was a better receiver. All last season. About 12 more receptions but twice as many TDs.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

        Here’s one. If White and Meredith bust out for 1,200,10 TDs each while being collectively cheaper (and more available) than Alshon.

        Ask and you shall receive.

        • willbest

          White’s 2016 was worse than Bellamy’s

        • SC Dave

          That’s only possible if Glennon is The Peyton 2.0.

          Hmmm… to think about it, turtles have long necks too.

        • BuddhaJoe

          I just keep hoping that White has gone through his injury karma and will be OK now. I remember Stafford being hurt constantly at the beginning of his career and now he’s been very reliable since.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            I hope so too, but Stafford wasn’t running 4.3 with 40 inch vert.

            A metal rod for a WR can’t be good.

            Only hope I have for him is that he has now adjusted to his bionic implants.

            And even then, it didn’t look like he could, ya know, actually run routes and catch.

            White is a YUGE project we’re all crossing our fingers for.

      • Johnnywad

        He had two touchdowns this year. I think they’ll find a way to make those up.

      • leftcoastdave

        How about the rest of the team, especially the youngsters, learn that his tude don’t get you shit?

      • Irish Sweetness

        Yes there is. Team players. He wasn’t one. Clearly.

    • willbest

      I can’t rank us higher than 3rd worst atm.

  • Bender McLugh

    There’s nothing quite like the afterglow of eating an outstanding Prime Rib.

    Hood lid I haven’t had one since Lawreys downtown

    • Bender McLugh

      I love autocorrect

    • MB30SD

      You spelled vajajay wrong

      • Bender McLugh

        I love you man

    • CanadaBear

      All systems shut down for digestive purposes!

  • willbest

    On Defense there is … um… Freeman, but he turns 31 in 50 days. And Floyd who showed some flash as a rookie.

    On Offense there is Kyle Long, but he is breaking down quickly, and …. Howard who also showed promise as a rookie.

    So basically 2 sophomore players is what we have to build the future of this franchise around.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      BRAVERMAN!

      • willbest

        Oh right. 3 sophomore players.

        • willbest

          Only 50 to go

      • Bender McLugh

        Never forget

      • leftcoastdave

        Deondre’ Hall!

        • Irish Sweetness

          I like him.

    • BerwynBomber

      C’mon, now.

      Whitehair, Hicks, Goldman all look like guys with their best days ahead of them. Also a guy like Callahan can be, at the least, a solid slot CB. And Meredith looks like he can develop into solid #2.

    • BuddhaJoe

      OK I was super angry yesterday and still am, but our situation is better than that.

      Our front 7 has Goldman, Hicks, Floyd, Young, Trevathan, Freeman, and McPhee. Even if injuries slow down a couple guys that’s pretty damn good.

      Our O has Howard, Sitton, Whitehair, Long, and Meredith. Plus we have adequate tackles and Zach Miller for however long he lasts during the year. That ain’t too bad.

      We have a hellscape in the secondary and we need a durable TE and a WR, but this roster is not the Browns. If Glennon turns out OK this team could actually surprise.

      • willbest

        Look at it this way. We aren’t competing this year, so look at what pieces are going to be around for 2018 and 2019. Its not pretty.

      • SC Dave

        Trevathan had yet to impress me in any way.

        Hicks and Freeman are definite keepers.

        Goldman and Floyd… tbd.

        Howard = the bomb. For God’s sake let him stay healthy as we have only Carey to back him up. Langford sucks, as I’ve said from day 1.

        Cam is a keeper. Rest of non-QB skill positions are useless now that Alshon is gone.

        It’s bleak. The only upside scenario is that Glennon shocks our asses.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

          Gotta give you credit for Langford.

          When we were saying give him a shot, you thought he sucked from the start. Many of us assumed it was based on Forte love, but you were right either way there.

        • Irish Sweetness

          FLOYD TBD ??? Fuck off Dave ….

          Although I’m with you on Trevathan, I don’t get the love. Lost in coverage.

      • leftcoastdave

        Picked up a great blocking TE who can settle down for 5-10 as a big target. QB’s best friend. Plenty more in the draft in the late rounds. IF we sign a DL FA, we might be trying to get best OT on the board as there are plenty of CBs and WRs in the draft.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I’ll bolster that with constructive hope Joe. That front 7 still has two guys that don’t belong/could be better. We have a RT that’s really a backup, and a LT that’s JAG.

        The draft/FA may bring a OT. The draft may bring that DE and maybe another LB that are better (and more versatile) than those in place already.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

      We roster some “upside” players.

      Whitehair for one. Seems like a 10 yr lock at C/G

      Ppl forget Leno is young, and decent. Essentially he’s everything we hoped WebbNation would grow into, and he’s cheap. Plenty of teams like the Panther, Chargers, etc would kill to have him.

      I’m not giving up on Bullard or Goldman just yet. If you get a good rotation going, both should improve. And Hicks is the real deal.

      We’re going to find out if Kwiat progresses. He already looks better than dudes like Christian Jones, Timu and Anderson. So there’s that.

      Some border line guys like Callahan could become something too.

      In an alternate reality, White, Fuller and Grasu live up to expectations, though I’m not holding my breath there.

      But hey, if Hoyer made Meredith post back to back 100 yd games, then surely Glennon will find him, right?

      Ohmmmmm

      • leftcoastdave

        Deondre Hall has huge potential as does Cravon back there. And no mention of Bellamy who had hand transplants in the off season?

        • BerwynBomber

          Yeah, lot of people laugh at LeBlanc, but he truly showed flashes. He’s at least worth another look.

          • MB30SD

            Flashes of abject turribleness.

            Dude, I don’t know what in thee fuuuuck you were watchin but Leblanc, lesuuuuuuucked!

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            Would you rather start LeBlanc, Bausby, McManis or pork Rosie Odonnell?

          • MB30SD

            O’Donnell

            They are that bad

          • CanadaBear

            How bout going downtown after she has been on a hike on a hot summer day?

          • willbest

            okay somethings are not meant to be seen by the mind’s eye

          • MB30SD

            Jesus maaaaaan!!!

          • CanadaBear

            I do have an evil side!

          • MB30SD

            My god

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            holy crap CBear, that is just wrong.

          • CanadaBear

            A wooly mammoth comes to mind.

          • MB30SD

            Please. Stop.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I was actually picturing the brain bug in Starship Troopers.

          • leftcoastdave

            Dude, back off on the pills. Those are some evil hallucinations.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            Bwhahah.

            And I do mean PORK

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            Pork Rosie O’Donnell, or talk to Rosie Perez for 4 hours straight?

          • willbest

            Rosie Perez now, or 20 years ago when she was bangable?

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            No, not bang. TALK.

          • willbest

            I understand that part. But I can tolerate a lot more from a woman I want to bang.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I see where he is going with it. It’s easier to talk to an annoying woman if you can stare at her great tits.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            Over the phone. Old Perez.

          • MB30SD

            Fuck me

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            Young Perez I’d bone in an instant. Though she’d probably crack my stick in half.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP7hfYunoeU

          • MB30SD

            Twig

          • willbest

            Isn’t she a lesbian?

          • SC Dave

            Flag. Personal foul.

          • leftcoastdave

            And it looks like he’s got his backfield in motion.

          • Irish Sweetness

            How about Lattimore and Prince? Top CB pairing … or gay cabaret act?

          • willbest

            He could have been called on about 6 more PI’s than he was.

          • MB30SD

            On a good day. He is Fucking putrid

          • Irish Sweetness

            So could any DB in the league.

      • willbest

        Whitehair, I was a flub to leave out. Leno is only cheap this year. He is a FA and will command $8+ million a season. Goldman is trending the wrong way (like Long) in terms of health.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Why do Bullard and Eddie improve with better players? They stay exactly the same, they just get more opportunities. No. If they’re not top drawer then they’re not Monsters. next.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

          Only Dlinemen named Suh come in like monsters their rookie yr. Other than that, they take a couple seasons to develop, so Bullard is still TBD.

          Goldman has just been inj prone. It’s rough at NT (just look at Poe who was elite, but now his back is messed). 2 guy rotation at Nose should make both fresher and healthier. Ideally, a fat bastard for run, goal line, short, along the lines of Poe, and a more athletic type like Goldman for the rest.

          It’s rare for a single NT to truly be a 3 down monster like Ngata or Wilfork. Those guys are special.

          Outside them, rotation = fresher – healthier – more productive.

    • Johnnywad

      Man you went dark quickly.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Long could be injury prone. Sitton’s good. Whitehair looks like a good pick now, though I’d still draft Henry over him. We already had a center, and we didn’t draft him to be a Center. Slauson was a bad move we all agreed on. I don’t see ‘future’ in football. I see teams that strive to get good for a season and win a Lombardi. It’s so hard to organize and have the luck of the Gods at the same time that teams can’t really do the ‘impregnable’ three to five year dynasty teams of the seventies/eighties.

      Win now. When when you can.

  • Captain Obvious
    • MB30SD

      That was a piss poor way to pitch what looks like a bad Fucking ass movie.

      Good find

  • leftcoastdave

    I see the two biggest targets out there as DL and LB. That’s what is available and plenty of options to anchor the D.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Marty Bennett to the Packers.

    • willbest

      Has he photoshopped Rodgers riding a black unicorn yet?

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        not yet but it should be captioned. “HEY HEY HEY. Dammit Erin, that is not where the horn is supposed to go. WTF is wrong with you!”

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

        Does he have to photoshop that?

        edit.

        NTTAWWT

  • BuddhaJoe

    Black Uni joins the Cheese, gives us a chance to pound his big mouth into the dirt twice a year. But the opposite will probably happen.

    • CanadaBear

      Maybe that will inspire Fuller to get back on the field.

      • BerwynBomber

        A little surprised there was no Fuller trade talk …

        • willbest

          For a 6th rounder?

          • BerwynBomber

            If he’s not in the team’s plans, you get anything you can for him.

          • MB30SD

            A coke would be nice… A single Fucking can of Coca-Cola

          • willbest

            Mexican coke though. Fuck that corn syrup shit.

          • MB30SD

            Take anyfuckingone we can get dude

          • Irish Sweetness

            If we couldn’t trade Cutler …

          • MB30SD

            Yes, no one wants a broken 32 yr old stripsack TO machine. The 100M should provide some salve though

          • CanadaBear

            Like JW pointed out to me, his contract is guaranteed this year. I’m guessing he gets one last chance on double secret probation.

        • CanadaBear

          Talk about trading low.

        • ButtonShoes

          Pace can’t seem to trade anyone for anything. He just lets players go.

      • BuddhaJoe

        I’m hoping he’s not shell shocked like it seemed. Dude showed he could ball if he got his head together. A lot of CBs take a few years to put it together. If he could be a legit #1, then Porter could slide to #2 and LeBlanc/Callahan could man the nickel and then we’d just have to worry about safety.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

          It’s crazy to think he came out like gangbusters vs 9ers, then, wtf happened?

          Did Bubba Gump totally destroy him?

          • CanadaBear

            I’ll give anyone a second chance but a lack of desire is a tough one to overcome.

          • Johnnywad

            He wasn’t on fire it turns out. It turns out Kap just sucks at throwing to his own team.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            But I think he forced two fumbles that game too.

          • Johnnywad

            I remember 1. He reminds me of Nate Vasher, “The Interceptor”. The year he went to the Pro Bowl he had like seven INTs. After the third, I was shaking my head because it felt like opposing QBs were just throwing him the ball. It was weird.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            That’s a good comp actually.
            Fuller will be lucky to even reach his level.

          • MB30SD

            Pffffttttt!

            HeDone.

            Dude’s a headcase

        • willbest

          He could Josh Norman 1 year wonder it this year. Of course Pace doesn’t like to pay players.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            And he may not like Fangio calling him a pussy to everyone who can hear.

          • Johnnywad

            Then he should stop being a pussy.

          • MB30SD

            Huge. Gaping. Vajajay

          • Johnnywad

            And when is that ever good?

          • MB30SD

            Never. I was agreeing

      • Irish Sweetness

        He’s not still on the squad is he?

        • CanadaBear

          His contract is guaranteed this year so I’m guessing he remains unless they can trade him (doubtful).

    • willbest

      Bennett can’t talk too much smack about Chicago. We did afterall get him a Superbowl ring

      • Irish Sweetness

        I believe that was in New England, Will ….

        • willbest

          And how did he get to new England?

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

      McPhee, if you only play two games, PLZ drill this ass-clown for those two games.

  • BerwynBomber

    This place is a trip. I make the unpopular suggestion that LeBlanc showed flashes and it leads to eating out Rosie O’Donnell imagery.

    • MB30SD

      Welcome

    • CanadaBear

      Come for the Bears talk, stay for the debauchery!

    • Johnnywad

      I think I’ll pass on scrolling down now. Damn.

      • MB30SD

        Missing out

        • Johnnywad

          Rosie O’Donnell? Fuck that.

          Although the damage is already done.

          • SC Dave

            You must mean the “even thinking about it” part?

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)
    • Irish Sweetness

      I’ll always think of GP as the guy sitting across from McMahon on the train … and he said nothing to him. This of course is the correct method of dealing with Jim McMahon in real life. I would have said something stupid. Actually I would have scared him, because it would have begun “I wrote to you when I was thirteen … and you never wrote back ……”

      Yup. GP’s play. Don’t react to your environment.

  • CanadaBear

    I still think Pace goes S/CB or QB in the first two rds. No idea what order.

    • MB30SD

      I am praying FS/CB Canada… Then I’d be ok trying QB in 3

      • CanadaBear

        Me too but I’m afraid Pace will think the Bears will never pick this high again. Of course, he might be delusional.

        • MB30SD

          Who knows with him at this point

        • ButtonShoes

          “Of course, he might be is delusional.”

          Fixed that for ya.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Do or do not, there is no try. No wasted picks in the top 3 rounds please.

        Who – with a high degree of probability – is good enough in round 3 to be our starter next year? If you are not drafting him to be your starter, then draft a good player who will start.
        Drafting good young quarterbacks is not the key to success. Defenses are, with offenses that can tick along. Round 3 is where you find that DE that dropped, or that studly ILB you can’t believe is still there.

        • MB30SD

          Meh

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

      I gotta believe he meant ‘adding playmakers in the secondary” (hopefully that didn’t mean just Demps)

      I think he’s going to get Thomas/Hooker, BPA in 2nd with strong emphasis on CB/S/Rush, and get Peterman in 3rd, or trade up if need be.

      • MB30SD

        You and me are both hoping that.

        And the 6’4″ FA in 4 if we take Adams @ 3

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

          That 6’4 S? dude doesn’t bring the wood and can’t cover

          Amos also can not cover but at least he brings the hammer.

          If a S college tape is not better than this, I don’t even bother.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQvg4lWBXXU

          • MB30SD

            His college tape was pretty strong

    • BuddhaJoe

      I want S/CB with the #3 then Watson if they can get him, even if it means trading up.

    • leftcoastdave

      I’m still thinking he’ll take what he can get to trade out and now we have NO with ammo and a need for an impact DL pick. Nice.

    • Irish Sweetness

      He sounds in the presser like he really feels Glennon can do it, so why would he double up on a draft pick he mightn’t survive to see develop? Quick processor, gets it out quick, reads well, sees the field, accurate … these are the words he uses to describe him.

      I don’t see him taking a QB at #3. It’s either a trade-down (most desirable), or Adams/Fournette/Thomas/Lattimore etc. Why draft a guy that high unless you’re hoping he’s your starter in 2018?
      Glennon is seasoned. He’ll get better. He’s not a gunslinger. He’ll be okay, and the dollars are invested for him to be the man.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

        “Quick processor, gets it out quick, reads well, sees the field, accurate”

        And from most accounts, Glennon has all the intangibles without resting bitch face.

        In other words, Bizzaro Cargo (hypothetically)

        • CanadaBear

          His 3rd down conversion rate was the worst in the league when he was playing. Something to keep an eye on. All things considered, I thought Glennon played decently for the Bucs. Once Lovie brought in McCown, Glennon got the shaft. Oh well, less wear and tear.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            And his career comp % is like 59%, but from what I hear from meatheads, doesn’t matter cuz he throws deep, even if incomplete.

      • CanadaBear

        Why wouldn’t he get his QB of the future? If they are convinced someone is the guy, take him. That’s why they get paid and we’re just jerking off. And Fournette, please.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

    Do you smell what the Pox is cooking?
    TE would go from thin to thick, and some added payback incentive.

    “Free agent TE Jared Cook does not expect to re-sign with the Packers.

    NFL Network’s Mike Garofolo reports Cook’s odds of returning to Green Bay are “completely nil.” There’s clearly a gulf in talks. Cook has been linked to the Bears, Lions and Bills, but has yet to line up a visit. If his market never develops, it’s still possible Cook ends up back in Green Bay. He was a favorite of Aaron Rodgers’ last season. – Roto

    • leftcoastdave

      Not a good fit for us anymore.

    • BerwynBomber

      Considering where we are I’d rather nab a TE in the draft. It’s loaded with them.
      Cook seems more a win-now proposition. Plus, I wonder about his durability.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Any of the top three TEs would be worth consideration in the second. But you’re doing that at the exclusion of a CB/S or DE.

    • willbest

      We have miller, Sims and brown. Don’t really need another te

      • leftcoastdave

        Not to mention the depth in the draft, udfa’s.

  • SC Dave

    Mmmm… mmmm… potato chips!

  • SC Dave

    Saw that Corey Graham was released by Buffalo, but that he has played 10(!) seasons in the NFL.

    Way to go, dude.

    • BerwynBomber

      Yup. And may have had the single most important INT in BAL’s history.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

      Saw that too. Awesome.

      Think he was our best nickle and a crazy sp teamer where he started if I remember.

      Goes to show you can claw your way up and make it.

  • leftcoastdave
  • Irish Sweetness

    Man, Glennon has some nice touch on his passes. Throws well on the run.

    He can make those rainbows to Wheaton.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS5Hsk-EGW8

    Glennon’s all right. There are worse. Another vet receiver and we look okay.

    Sticking with Fournette though, we don’t have to showcase the QB.

    • MB30SD

      Heeeere we go…

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        a little positivity on here today is refreshing

        • MB30SD

          Settle down banana hands

          I was alluding to the fact that Irish has found his new cutty

          • Irish Sweetness

            No way. That’s just inital impression. This is look-see stuff, but they have the contract to opt out after this year. But he’s the man until he isn’t.

            Imagine Fournette and Howard in the same backfield. Pro-set. They both go slant left, Glennon rolls-around right with the fake hand-off …. straight to Hands Miller in a field of space.

          • MB30SD

            Give it time

          • Scharfinator

            YOU CANT REPLACE HIS FIRST LOVE

      • DaMurph

        Irish is thinking good move, well there ya go!

  • Irish Sweetness
  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

    Just listened to the Glennon presser.

    (If you wait to next vid it’s Pacebot)

    http://www.chicagobears.com/multimedia/videos/Glennon-on-what-hell-bring-to-Chicago/4890ab44-2554-4044-903d-f3d109ef2e29

    He comes off as articulate, analytical, and detailed.

    Went in depth with questions which is refreshing.

    Perhaps what I liked most was when he said that although he hasn’t played in 2 years, he has grown physically and mentally. He’s been in a lot of QB meetings. Familiar with many more defenses. More confident now than before (weren’t we just talking about “grooming”?)

    Glennon also relayed that he watched Bears tape months ago. That’s some fucking dedication. Said he thought the O fit his skill set well, and as such, Bears was his top target.

    Emphasized Meredith, Howard and Miller as playmakers. Seems genuinely optimistic and ready to roll

    I can understand now why everyone around the league claimed he had all the intangibles. He might look like he should work at IBM circa 1962, but he carries himself well.

    Hope that translates to the field.

    • BerwynBomber

      Brike!

      I’m game. Then again, I advocated for him or McCarron as a potential bridge while drafting a QB this year or next. And I never understood why TB turned to McCown after a reasonably successful first year from Glennon. Well, other than Lovie. And McCown was probably one of his Archuletta-type guys.

      At least with Glennon there is the potential for upside. Might be small, might never happen, he might crash and burn, but there is a potential for upside. With Cutler or Hoyer there was no hidden upside. We had seen all we needed to see from Cutler in eight years and we were never going to learn anything new. Hoyer? He played well for us a sub-/spot start but that was probably his ceiling and the red zone deficiency aspect was telling. Plus, Glennonsweiler is considerably younger than each.

      So for a million or two extra this year you see what he has. If he tanks you turn to the draft pick in ’18 and Glennon becomes an average-priced back-up. If he plays well he becomes a nice problem to have.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Agree! amazing a little common sense finally coming about after hearing from the over reacting emotional fans the last 2 days. Yes he cost a little more this year. so what. That extra cost was not preventing us from spending on FAs. Pace just did not want to overspend or FAs just chose other places. Unfortunately fans want that big splash, it makes them feel good. I would have liked one or two of the top FAs but I am ok with what we what we did. We still upgraded our team. There are still possible moves so we will see. I am cautiously optimistic.

        • Irish Sweetness

          If we could let a Trubisky or Watson sit for a couple of years and learn their trade…

          • MB30SD

            No

          • DaMurph

            Yes

          • MB30SD

            Maybe?

          • DaMurph

            Maybe ! Ha!

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

          I still want to draft Peterman.
          And naturally if Glennon flames out, all in on Darnold or whatever next season.
          Cutlerites act like Glennon is the last QB the Bears will sign or as if Cargo was a better option.

          Neither are true.

    • ButtonShoes

      That’s the Bears for you. Always winning press conferences, but never winning football games.

  • Irish Sweetness
    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

      He’s a FS? If so, might tip gis hand about Hooker ay #3

      • Irish Sweetness

        Or he drafts Adams and fills that hole. Draft another corner. We’d be sweet.

      • willbest

        Been playing SS the last couple years

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

          Interesting. Read he played some corner and covered TEs. And his tape as a ballhawk made me think he was nore FS.
          Pairing him w Hooker would be major upgrade

  • Irish Sweetness
  • Irish Sweetness

    Another reason to trade down, Obi is on the rise.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000792190/article/move-the-sticks-notebook-melifonwu-rising-into-round-1-range

    How about CB Kevin King? 6’3 200lbs, ran a 4.43 !

  • DaMurph

    Balanced and optimistic? Sounds more like a love drunk guy sitting in the bar as it empties out trying to convince himself that the fat ugly chick sitting at the end of the bar ain’t really that bad, and he should give her a shot.

    • MB30SD

      Ooohhhhhhhh… and Murph brings the noise!

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Fat girls need loving too.

  • BearDown100393

    “I don’t get the Packers. Guess they’re content hanging NFC North title banners.”

    Meanwhile back in Chicago….. a zebra becomes the starting quarterback.

  • leftcoastdave

    “Again, at this point last year, no Sutton. No Whitehair. No Howard. Season is 6 months away.”

    A rebuild is a b*tch, but it is what it is. Now add to the above a new big body TE with Deon Simms joining the young Daniel Brown and what Cam proved he can do with Marcus Wheaton on the O side and where are we? Cutty, Hoyer and Barkley gone with all the whining about them? AJ gone with his drama. On balance what?

    A stronger running team.
    A better or worse QB situation? I liked Barkley, but hey, out with the old, in with the new.

    On the D side, very good in the trenches with Hicks, Unrein and Goldman. Bullard in year two. Floyd and company on the outside, Trevethon unknown with Kwiat and Freeman in the middle and now the addition of two good pieces to a rebuilding secondary with the promise of Crevon and Deondre Hall.

    Not better than last year yet with draft to come?

    Half full or half empty?

    • Johnnywad

      No. Not better yet.

      But if it takes seasons of cleaning house and building through the draft while filling gaps through FA, fine.

      Glennon may suck giant balls. Whatever. He’s better than both Hoyer and Barkley. Cutler was gone months ago so no since lamenting it.

      And fuck Alshon. Occasional circus catches don’t get it done. His potential has been largely untapped since BMarsh left taking his #1 coverage with him. He’s not that guy. And he doesn’t want to play for the Bears.

      • Bender McLugh

        Better than Hoyer & Barkley, this is very likely

    • SC Dave

      AJ and drama? Whatever you’re smoking, it must be good.

      • leftcoastdave

        AJ was a prima donna. The rest of the league agrees with that. Pace sent a message that to be on the team, you had to commit to the team. If he was wrong on his assessment, why did AJ not get a long term commitment?

        • SC Dave

          A statement clueless beyond imagination. *Nothing whatever* to do with being a prima donna.

          It’s about injury and a PEDs issue.

          Or perhaps about agents’ interests, which will explained pretty well.

    • Bender McLugh

      Half full definitely

  • Captain Obvious

    My thought on AJ is that because he did that reverse-annuity thing with his first contract and has to pay, what, 13% of his earnings to his investors? He didn’t see the offers for the gross, he just saw the net. So he wanted teams to pay him 13% more than he was really worth so they’d pick up the payout on his reverse-annuity. He figured he was 13% better than the dollar value teams would peg him to.

    He found out that he was wrong, and despite being able to get a contract from the Bears for the amount he signed with Philly, he left to save face.

    He’s a guy who has made some foolish choices, and refuses to accept the consequences of those choices — wanting others to pay the price instead of himself.

    Which is why it’s a shame BMarsh can’t hold it together for more than 2-3 years in a given organization. I think he was the right influence in many ways on AJ. Because in treating his illness, BMarsh has to hold himself absolutely accountable for his choices, and I think the thing that gets him intro trouble in the lockerroom is demanding his teammates do the same — to the point of corrosiveness. I think AJ needs a little more BMarsh in him (obligatory “NTTAWWT” for MB)

    • SC Dave

      All makes sense. Note also that Alshon is from small town SC, and no doubt let agents take advantage of him.

      Maybe the one year deal gets him out of that situation?

      • Captain Obvious

        Nope. That reverse-annuity thing is for his entire career. I think the original deal was $7.9 million in cash for 13% of his earnings for his entire career. And that includes all his endorsements and other deals while he is a pro football player. So the company starts making money when his career earnings passes $61 million.

        Looking at that last number, maybe he was smart to do the deal. Career earnings of $61 million, even in an endorsement-rich environment like Chicago, would mean a pretty damned good career, even with increasing salaries.

        • CanadaBear

          As shy as Alshon is I don’t see him being a big endorser.

          • SC Dave

            I does not seem to fit his personality, but people can and do change.

          • CanadaBear

            Just watching his press conference in Philly was painful (on a couple of levels). He was stammering through the entire clip. Crazy nervous. Wish him well and hope he stays injury free.

          • SC Dave

            Yeah, I just like him. I’ve known people here with his background – retiring, quiet, respectful, humble before god.

            Just none with the crazy physical gifts Alshon has to go along with the work he has put in.

            What makes me always shake my head is when ex-JC players think they know enough about football to call NFL players ‘pussies’.

            It’s immediately dismissable as either jealousy or stupidity.

          • CanadaBear

            Yeah, me too. Just super shy and quiet. It sucks it worked out this way.

      • willbest

        Agents taking advantage is nonsense. What is more work negotiating annual deals or a couple 4 year deals?

        When does an agent make more money, a incentive laden deal the player is unlikely to make or one with multiple years of guarantees?

        Now if I bet on Jeffery $8 million, the last thing I would agree to is a 5 year 60 mil deal. Because I would be unlikely to make anything. So a string of 1 year deals until 28 before the 5 year deal makes the most sense.

        Anyway. Jeffery has 10 million in post tax and fees assets so when we talk about stupid decisions we are comparing whether he will be worth 25 or 40 million at the end of his NFL career.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

      Saving face. Long bear tradition…Kreutz, Lach, Alshon…

  • BearDown100393

    Make Bears Great Again

  • leftcoastdave

    Pace has made clear his philosophy. You do not sign players in FA you will come to regret. He is adding value at every position he can, but looks to build the core through the draft. Did he find value there last year? Silly question. They will be the core for quite some time at the right price. It’s how many eggs can he put into the basket, not gambling on just a small few. And that is including the back up players as well. It is all about getting younger and deeper while picking up guys who want to be here while the rookies who are not starting get time to develop, ie., Grassu, Hall, Kwiat, Bullard, Bush, Braverman and Houston-Carson.

    At QB, the decision is not one he is likely to regret. If it was not a home run, there is little downside with the guaranteed money. If Glennon performs at all, he will have value to trade even if the player to be drafted or Shaw end up with the starting position. Meanwhile, build the pieces and make it deep. The line is looking amazingly adequate and now we have a proven big body TE. The secondary has two vets to help out the rooks we have and those to come. The WR corp? Yet to be determined.

    To me it all looks much better going forward for the long term.

    • CanadaBear

      I’m not unhappy about the rebuild but not as bullish as you. WR is a mess right now and the DL needs at least 1 or 2 upgrades. LB needs upgrades due to PM and DT career-threatening injuries. The back end needs at least 2 solid players to be avg. Anyway, that’s what the off season is all about.

      • Bender McLugh

        WR is better than a mess, there’s promise there but a clear need for a #1

        • CanadaBear

          I think Pace will add another name or two in FA/draft. I’m bummed about Alshon but time marches on.

    • willbest

      Pace is rather inconsistent in FA. McPhee is a tool. Rolle was broken, as was Royal. Even Trevathan looked like it was all the elite players around him that made him stand out before he got injured. Hicks and Massie turned out to be worth their investment, and he does a good job picking through the garbage pile for serviceable available players, but he isn’t any worse than Emery who hit on Marshall, Bennett, Young, Slausen, Bushrod, while sucking on Allen and Houston.

      • Sahr Gborie

        Bushrod was not that great. Emery did not come across as if he had a long term plan. Why would you let Peppers walk and replace him with J.Allen? Pace knew Cutty was not the answer unlike Emery.

        • willbest

          Peppers had to go because they couldn’t afford to keep him if he was on the roster it was going to be something like 21 million cap hit back when that was like 15% of the cap. Allen got brought in on the cheap and got taken out by an illness, by the time he got back the whole team had quit. He didn’t produce like he was paid to so he was still a bust, but it wasn’t all on him. It was on Emery because Emery decided Trestman was a good idea. And really that was Emery’s downfall.

          And who knows what Pace would have decided with respects to Cutler if he took the job in 2012 instead of 2015.

      • Johnnywad

        Trevathan and Royal were healthy when they got here. You cannot hold injury against a GM unless there is a lengthy history of it in the player’s background prior to bringing him aboard. There simply is no way to know.

        Trevathan was a really good LB until his patellar tendon exploded.

        Kevin White’s injury last year can’t be held against Pace. Any human caught up in the same situation would have broken a leg.

        • willbest

          The knock on Trevathan is he wasn’t the beastly ILB he was in Denver when he was healthy. Even if I don’t hold the injury against him, he was still wasn’t living up to expectations. And Royal had a history of injury having missed 11 games the previous 3 years and being banged up through several others, so that can be held against Pace too.

          And my attack on Pace being average is in his FA not, his draft. I give every GM (including Emery) a mulligan on their first draft taking over using another GM’s scouting department and notes.

          But the White pick does deserve some criticism. The aggressiveness in drafting White was known at the time though. No he had no injury history, but then he had never been tested having a mere 2 years of college ball. And he was most certainly unpolished even if he was a raw physical freak. You new he was a project.

          Plus it wasn’t a position of high need when he was selected. We have Jeffery and Royal, and Wilson was showing promise. Pace was swinging for the fences so anything less than a home run was going to be a bust even with hindsight telling you Vic Beasley was legit and us having a need at LB

          • Johnnywad

            I don’t know a single person that thought the Eddie Royal signing was a bad one. Worked for a while. Then he got hurt. Not like he was getting #1 money.

            Any LB coming from Denver to Chicago of late should be expected to show a drop off given the discrepancy between Denver’s DL and Chicago’s.

            You appear to expect the guy to acquire talent nearly mistake free. It’s impossible to do in the NFL. You can’t just solve all the problems at once because you want to. And you can’t put a single big money FA play in front of a longer term goal. I’d say it’s pretty clear at this point we’re in for the long haul. Might as well get used to it instead of pissing and moaning when Ryan Pace appears to disagree with your philosophy.

          • willbest

            Pretty sure at the time people thought it was a bad move. I could swear the consensus around here is royal will be productive until he gets injured.

            Freeman looks just as good as he did before. And he looked the part even when it was the rookie next to him. So its not unreasonable to have expected more from Danny. Unless you want to argue he was dinged up from camp/pre-season.

  • CanadaBear

    Christian Jones signed for 1 year. Good on ST’s.

  • BearDown100393

    Before a Bear – He sucks
    When a Bear – GOAT
    After a Bear – He sucks

  • willbest

    Wow Jeff turned on Jeffery quick. Alshon missed 4 games to PEDs. But what makes Jeffery special is that he commands double teams, and can even get open on them. Question his attitude and availability all you want, but nobody can objectively deny his talent.

    Demps and Prince are upgrades over Amos/HJQ and whoever is opposite Porter and the defense is better than last year. But who do we have that is a difference maker? Who do other teams look at and go “we need to have a plan for him”?

    Howard. So after they take away the run, then what do we do?

    • willbest

      ed. Defense probably will be better than last year. It depends on how healthy Trevathan is and how Nicky is coming along. Also, our run D goes to shit when we lose Goldman so he needs to stay healthy as well.

      • CanadaBear

        I think you’re under selling Sitton, WH, Long. When healthy (I know, I know) I think they must be top 10 G-C-G. I like Howard A LOT, but he had help. Pace still has lots of cash with lots of upgrades available.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

          Howard is not shifty so he takes what is blocked plus a yd or 2 more after contact.
          But if the oline doesn’t open up holes then it will be 3yds and a cloud of dust.
          I like Kush at OG too. And we just signed another OT so Pace seems to be serious about building the trenches (perhaps at the expense of WR and CB)

          • Bender McLugh

            Can Newton!

          • MB30SD

            Newton can!

          • Bender McLugh

            Fack, I meant Cam Meredith

          • willbest

            He is raw power though. Hard for people to tackle him once he gets going. And yes our interior O-line ranks with the best of them when it comes to the power run.

          • Johnnywad

            Howard was a top five back last year as a rookie in a shitty team with no QB. Let’s not start punching holes in his tool box just yet.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            Howard isn’t shifty (see McCoy) nor does he have break away acceleration or top end speed (vintage AP).

            Doubt those will improve. That’s just not his style, just like Forte wasn’t a basher.

            Howard’s receiving chops also need to improve.

            Those aren’t knocks, just drawbacks.

            Most HBs have them. AP in his prime still had stone hands, and had some fumbling issues.

            Not everyone is Sweetness who could even throw and kick if needed!

            Howard has good vision, burst, and power. Once he gets going he bowls MOFOs over, which is fine by me. We haven’t seen that since Barber the barbarian.

          • CanadaBear

            He’s really patient. That’s a great trait for a young RB. I could see him getting slightly faster/explosive through superior training but he won’t ever be a burner. He’s plenty fast and I like his attitude.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            Yes, the patience is part of his vision. Good instincts too. Forte imo had the best patience, vision and instincts in his prime (still has them, I suppose, just wearing down a bit).

            But Howard much like Forte doesn’t have that break away speed. Forte was the king of 20yd runs getting caught from behind. Howard has some of that too.

            But as you said, speed, acceleration can be trained to an extent. Maybe he gets leaner and does different exercises to become more explosive. Gotta watch out though. Langford added pounds so he can withstand the rigors of a workhorse, and he looked way more sluggish, than got hurt (maybe cuz it wasn’t his natural body type)

            Either way, Howard is still a very good back.

            Forte ran great routes, even lined up in the slot. Soft hands. Howard’s not gonna be doing that any time soon, but hey, he can truck defenders which is something Forte rarely did.

            No HB really has it all (besides Sweetness). It’s usually give and take.

          • MB30SD

            Kush is gone yo. No?

          • willbest

            We resigned Kush. Larsen is in Miami.

          • MB30SD

            Ahhh, thx

    • MB30SD

      Freeman without a doubt.

      We’ll get that diff maker in the draft.

      And AJ wasn’t special. He was a very very good #2 WHEN you have a super star #1.

      When he’s on his own he’s, aight.

      • willbest

        We will find out. He gets to roll up against Norman twice next year.

        • MB30SD

          He’ll have wentz and two very good other wrs… I’m sure he’ll do fine.

          It’s when he’s running the show that he’s meh… IF he stays on the field

          • willbest

            You mean when he is running the show and his QB can’t throw it 10 yards or just doesn’t see him

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

    Adding from discussion below, Pace’s “busts” have been more due to inj than performance.

    McPhee, Royal, White, Rolle (?), Grasu (maybe. He sucked, then got hurt).

    And none of them had inj history that I’m aware of.

    Maybe I’m missing someone, but it seems like Pace is a good talent elevator, just not a great psychic or doctor.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdgrby_14XM

    • CanadaBear

      Rolle was DOA. Can blame that on Pace. Rolle was the Jared Allen of Safeties for the Beloved.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

        Rolle wasn’t really expensive.

        And again, he was an ironman till he played on Chicago then got hurt, then – well, age and inj = suckage.

        Rolle even mentioned something about the playing field contributing to his inj.

        And given how many Bears went down last season, maybe there’s something to it.

    • willbest

      Royal had injury history. Rolle was done. He was loved in the Giants locker room and they let him go.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Pace spent all those years in New Orleans. He should have met and befriended a Voodoo Priestess, in order to utilize her psychic abilities. So it is ALL Pace’s fault.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

        Needs to hire Psychic Cleo as a consultant, or this guy

        http://www.cc.com/video-clips/szbbz4/chappelle-s-show-negrodamus—michael-jackson

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Miss Cleo died last year.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            Didn’t see that coming

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            she probably did. Long battle with colon cancer.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

            I could make some sorta joke about a person selling bullshit dying of colon cancer, but I shall refrain.

            RIP cleo.

            Ya mon!

    • willbest

      The real problem with White isn’t that he turned out to be a cripple, its that the position (at the time) was such a low priority relative to the entire defense that White had to be special in order to merit the pick. Pace was betting on him being Julio. That is what Pace had to believe in order to select him over Beasley Waynes, Shelton, Peters.

      The team is worse off right now because of Pace’s high risk high reward play that day.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd TrubRisky Business (Butch)

        But he’s not Julio precisely cuz he got inj.

        Chicken and egg.

        And I have no doubt Pace was thinking ahead, knowing he was going to dump Bmarsh, and not being enamored with Alshon.

        WR is a need now, so if White somehow turns it around, then it’s a good pick.

        If White busts, it’ll be due to bad inj luck more than performance (though naturally, one leads to the other).

        • willbest

          He was dropping passes and didn’t know his routes after a year learning our playbook. That right there is enough to tell you he wasn’t Julio. Nevermind the brittle.

        • willbest

          He was dropping passes and didn’t know his routes after a year learning our playbook. That right there is enough to tell you he wasn’t Julio. Nevermind the brittle.

        • willbest

          He was dropping passes and didn’t know his routes after a year learning our playbook. That right there is enough to tell you he wasn’t Julio. Nevermind the brittle.

  • willbest

    Jonathan Banks. A Lovie Smith Tampa 2 Corner drafted in the 2nd round in 2013, traded to the Lions last year for a 7th and then released by them. Signed a 1 year deal. I wonder if he is just a camp body to compete with Cray and Hall and Bausby (did we sign him to the 90man?)

    • willbest

      oh apparently he appeared a game for us last year after the Lions cut him. Hard to keep track, we had so many people pretending to be CBs last year

  • BearDown100393

    Ryan Pace is as good a GM as the current roster.

  • willbest

    We signed Marcus Cooper. Had a solid year last year with Arizona. 11 PDs, 4 INTs (1 TD). 63 tackles

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