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Reflections on the Third Preseason Game

| August 27th, 2017

A few relevant things…

  • Cam Meredith’s gruesome leg injury is just another example of the complete uselessness of these exhibitions. Don’t feed me the “they can hurt in practice” bullshit. This isn’t practice. It’s a full contact game with zero value. NFL players bodies only have so many hits in them. Any coach wasting those hits in August is risking their job.
  • And there’s Jordan Howard – a chronically injured player in college – taking carry after carry in the second quarter of a preseason game.
  • Mike Glennon was precise on the game’s opening drive, making one throw (to Meredith) I didn’t think he had in him. Then he was Glennon. Throwing behind receivers. Missing touchdowns. Erratic once any play goes “off-script”.
  • Roy Robertson-Harris is a very nice player. Bears have a lot of height on their special teams units.
  • Trubisky looked like a rookie. Because Trubisky is a rookie. Now ask yourself this: when’s his next meaningful action?
  • Trubisky scrambles for first down. Trubisky avoids pressure, rolls right, hits Victor Cruz in the hands. Trubisky goes through progressions and find the open man with his third read. What exactly can’t he do? What exactly does being on the sideline help him develop? He needs to be in the huddle. He needs to take snaps. He needs to read defenses during game action. But nope.
  • Trubisky’s 45 yard touchdown pass to Tanner Gentry will be the most exciting moment from the Bears passing game until, probably, November.
  • I don’t think I overrated the Titans – who I think are going to the playoffs – but they need to get some wide receivers on the field. That entire unit is injured.

Bears have a good defense. They have a great run game. They’re a good team with a glaring weakness.

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  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    It would not matter if the Titans had their WRs on the field with the way Mariota was over throwing the ball.

  • willbest

    “He needs to take snaps.” Hasn’t he botched the center exchange twice in preseason games now?

    • madscout12

      Once in his first game. Once in this game with a new center for him.

      • willbest

        But he was also doing it in training camp too. And its understandable because he doesn’t have a lot of practice at it.

        • madscout12

          Glennon was also reported to not handle snaps well at the start of camp.

    • Adam Truelove

      That’s EXACTLY why he needs to play in real games.

  • I brought this up b4, but it’s worth seriously considering more now.

    Allen Hurns possibly on the tradeblock.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/08/23/talk-in-jacksonville-that-jaguars-may-look-to-trade-allen-hurns/

    Coming off his own INJ, but had a 64 catch 1,000 10TD season in ’14

    Still only 25.

    If it’s a 4rth, Bears should move in on that

    • willbest

      I loved me some Allen Hurns in FF 2 years ago. He was a TD magnet.

      • And the Jag fan consensus seems to point to Bortles fucking everything up last yr.

        We’re not going to find 1,000 yd 10TD wrs just sitting around.

        Hope Pace aggressively pursues.

        We have the cap.

        And White is no sure thing, in which case we’re going to be relying on Gentry, Wright, Cruz, Wheaton ,Thompson…not exactly formula for explosive O

    • Irish Sweetness

      Yes’m.

  • madscout12

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqK_Wm-Bi9Y

    That play the Cruz dropped was sick.

    • You can see what Jeff gets excited about. It’s the same thing I saw on his college tape.

      – poise
      – good pocket presence
      – shuffles feel to avoid pressure
      – keeps eyes downfield
      – Mobile. smart runner
      – unlike other spread QBs, goes through progressions
      – live arm from multiple platform
      – pin point accuracy maybe better on the run

      He also showed some of the negatives

      – struggled under center a bit. Maybe getting used to footwork
      – needs more clock awareness (as most rooks do)
      – doesn’t see some coverages

      The last negative might be the one which keeps him on the bench, esp under conservative Fox.

      • madscout12

        The sad thing is Glennon hasn’t exactly lived up to his rep of protecting the ball. When you make the margins of error so small, as they are with Glennon, the mistakes hurt more.

        Glennon played well…for one drive. Other than that, he’s been hot garbage. But he played his one drive, so fox will start him.

        • The Oline played much better, which is to be expected.
          It’s sorta common knowledge that it takes Oline longer to find their groove than Dlines.

          As long as the pocket is relatively clean, Glennon should do ok.

          He also made some accurate throws under pressure.

          He wasn’t running for any 1st downs, but hey, neither do a lot of statues.

          • madscout12

            Glennons drive was legit. I saw none of the problems from his other performances.

            But his other drives were less than impressive.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Nothing to do with Grasu being at Center and Long being elsewhere?

          • Long hasn’t played one snap this offseason, so he wasn’t the weak link.

            And the only player who played worse than Glennon the first two games was Grassu.

            But I admit, at first glance he SEEMED to look ok.

            But wasn’t really focusing too much on him.

            If Grassu can somehow manage to be competent, that might buy us time til Long returns.

          • willbest

            I think it was having WH and Sitton next to him covered his sins a bit.

        • BerwynBomber

          Huh? He had three good drives today. I don’t think he is the long term answer either and wouldn’t mind seeing Trisky W1 but I don’t know how you say he was total garbage but for one drive.

          And he did not put one ball in harm’s way today except, arguably, the pass to White.

          • madscout12

            He was hot garbage in games 1 and 2.

            His other drives were very mediocre.

          • BerwynBomber

            Flipped field position in one. Led us to a FG in the other. I’m guessing most HCs consider those positive outcomes.

        • leftcoastdave

          Same with Grassu, I would assume?

          • madscout12

            Yeah, I have no idea why he’s at C above Whitehair. Guy was a borderline probowler last year.

          • madscout12

            Actually, I do know why. Grassu was a pace draft pick and so he’s been given the chance to start because we have injuries on the line. But I’m not a fan of moving excellence to try to fit in guys.

            Long was a different story. Long could have been a T, and we thought at the time that would work. We now know he isn’t.

          • SC Dave

            I’m more inclined to think they had to modify their plans once Kush went down; loing him was a big deal. Otherwise, Kush would be in for Long and nothing else would have changed.

    • Johnnywad

      Yep. The kids got all the tools and obviously feels the blitz really well.

      It’s very easy to see what Pace liked so much.

    • evantonio

      dropped INT at 1:35. woops.

      • SC Dave

        I liked the commentary on the TD pass… “that’s throwing from the rocking chair right there”.

  • fishing florida

    jeff hughes comments are a glaring weakness. a real know-it-all jerk.

    • fishing florida

      to be fair, I have a glaring weakness too, i’m a complete idiot.

  • BerwynBomber

    Setting aside the crushing news for Meredith for a moment.

    The huge news is that Trisky continues to look fantastic. Early credit to Pace. He seems to have landed a potential top-10 guy, which this franchise hasn’t had for sixty or seventy years.

    The two big questions facing the kid will be 1) does his decision-making drop against 1st team NFLers, and 2) do his feet still look as quick against the same?

    But right now, hard to complain with what we’ve seen.

    P.S. In fairness, Glennon played well today. In fact, I’d argue he overall outplayed the rookie given that one horrible set of downs the latter had with the first teamers.

  • BerwynBomber

    I’m thinking Cousins might be in for a rough year, and conversely, the Rams O might be surprisingly competent.

    • I’ll believe both when I see it.

      Goff would have to really progress, and Cousins + Gruden would really have to regress.

      The skins lost Djax who kept Ds honest, but they did sign Pryor to keep the vertical threat alive.

      Reed will get inj at some point during the season, but as long as he and Kelly are in, they’ll be alright on O.

      • BerwynBomber

        The ex-WAS OC is now the LAR HC. I wouldn’t be shocked if we learn the wunderkind McVay was a lot more integral to Cousins’ success than anyone (here at least) ever knew.

  • Joecashflow

    I got to watch the whole second half in Munich, in German, but WTF. Apparently Foxy used the word “superb” describing Gannon, Are u Kidding? I would reserve that for maybe Brady SB comeback. That tells you where this season is going.

    • willbest

      Are you a stranger to the way public relations in the US works?

      superb – better than expected
      solid performance – nothing special
      needs some work – played like shit

  • Cohen will fill a Thompson like role

    • madscout12

      Thompson should make the team. All he’s done is ball out on specials and catch all the balls thrown his way.

      • Oh, no, I meant the Redskins 3rd down scat back Thompson.
        Hopefully Birdcage installs some of those same packages.

        Bears Thompson should absolutely make the team.

        • madscout12

          Oh…agreed. I think I said earlier that I want to see 2 back sets, with play action to Howard to get Cohen in space. Or to keep defender from cheating against Jordan .

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog I think Sanchez and Cruz are both getting cut.”

    I’m thinking Carey won’t make it either.

    • willbest

      At least Carey gets the small comfort of an injury settlement.

    • I wonder if Langford did enough to avoid cut?

      • BerwynBomber

        He looked decent enough. Except for that first series w/ Glennon (right after the safety).

        Honestly, Rounds doesn’t look bad either.

        • SC Dave

          He won’t last if he keeps letting himself get drilled like he did on those two pass plays. Get under that shit, dude.

          • BerwynBomber

            Agreed. And he’s still a JAG. In fact, all our RBs are except Howard and Cohen. Though I’m sure that’s normal. Maybe even better than normal.

          • SC Dave

            Absolutely agree on the JAG assessment.

            I’d rather see his roster spot go to Thompson or Gentry, but I don’t want to see him lose his head because of that.

      • Bender McLugh

        Yes

      • AlbertInTucson

        He brought some passion to his game today.

  • Corporal Clott

    Wow, reading this made me throw up in my mouth a little. Yup, be careful not to lose objectivity in the preseason gents.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mcnown-bears-open-with-win/

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      WHY?!?!

      • Corporal Clott

        2 for 4 for 24yds. Smh.

        “He (McNown) makes things happen,” said Dick Jauron, who made his debut as Bears coach. “He did it in college and that’s what we expected of him and that’s what he did.”

        • SC Dave

          2 of 6, actually.

          • Corporal Clott

            Yeah, I went off memmory but either way it was pitiful.

  • leftcoastdave

    Hoyer taking the ViQueen apart on his first drive.

    Great and good humor.

    There are now four wins for da Bears in the NFC North.

    (Ok, maybe a bit early, but it all starts in the trenches and them trenches are now loaded in Chicago!)

    • madscout12

      The kitties and queens sure aren’t looking great now. Granted, the kitties looked bad against the champs…and wow. Destroyer is carving these guys up.

    • #DaDestroya

      #NotSurprisedONEBIT

  • Lurking Larry

    Hello. I played Big Ten college ball. I kicked around the NFL for 3 years as one of those training camp guys who never lasted past first cuts. Played Arena League and one season in the CFL.

    So now my bona fides are established, let me splash some cold water on Jeff’s outrage. Two splashes, as a matter of fact.

    #1 Teddy Bridgewater nearly lost his fucking leg last year, in practice, without a bit of contact.

    #2 If Cam Meredith blows his knee on the opening drive of game 1 of the regular season, how is that better than what happened today?

    Pros mostly hate preseason games because guys like me can hurt a guy like them. A guy on a UDFA flier can take millions out of the pocket of an established vet–not because we’d be more likely to get someone hurt, but because we’re the minimum-wage grunts that shouldn’t be taking big bucks away from the vets. And the hurts they take in these games don’t give them any stats to line their pockets with incentives on the current contract, or padding for their next contract. Every pro knows that every time they step on the field, it might be their last time. So, blowing a knee in preseason game 3 doesn’t hurt any more than blowing it in regular season game 6. If anything, guys would rather have big injuries early, so they have a full year to rehab and get ready for next season.

    But c’mon. Stop getting huffy about preseason injuries. Put 22 guys out there on opening Sunday who haven’t had a lick of contact because they’ve been held out of the preseason because coaches are afraid guys will get hurt? Game 1 will be a slaughter. You gotta adjust to the game before you get back to playing it, and some guys do that faster than others. Hell, in college I took my helmet home a couple days before camp started and wore it a few hours a day to get used to it, because otherwise I’d get headaches during practice, before any contact.

    Anyway, that’s my piece. I’ll go back to lurking. But seriously, Jeff. Stop whining about preseason injuries. They happen. And if you kept all your starters out, they’ll happen in Week 1 and 2 of the regular season instead, and does that really make you feel better?

    • SC Dave

      To say nothing of a certain blogger’s schizophrenia regarding the ‘meaning’ of preseason depending on how rabidly he can fulminate against Glennon and for Trubs.

    • Cubsnlinux

      Wow, excellent post. This is my opinion pretty much on football injuries in general, pre-season, regular or post-season. I feel bad for the hurt and injured but overall football is a violent sport and any single player can sustain a season/career ending injury anytime. Football rosters should be expanded to accommodate for the nature of the sport and if necessary cap limits should be raised. I never understand the “Oh, No!” reactions every time a football player gets injured. I get the empathy but not the surprise/shock in people’s reactions. I can understand when someone tears an ACL in say baseball and if the collective fanbase is stunned. In 2017 I think it is stupid for a team’s season to be over when a few football players are injured. Not with this much money in the game.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Jeff writes whatever supports his narrative. He thinks that a billion dolalr product should just magically take the field with practicing. PS is practicing. (shrugs)

      • Corporal Clott

        That’s why he calls his proffession “The Craft”.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Jeff? “Huffy”?

      Nah!

    • AlbertInTucson

      I think maybe Larry should lurk less and post more…?

      He just took somebody to the woodshed.

    • “I took my helmet home a couple days before camp started and wore it a few hours a day to get used to it, because otherwise I’d get headaches during practice”

      That’s an inside trick.

      I still got headaches though. I guess the human skull isn’t used to being encased in a plastic shell in 90 degree heat and bashing into each other for hours.

      • Corporal Clott

        I referenced this in a mocking post last week. People have no clue as to how toxic plactic and synthetic materials are to the human body. Not saying it’s the sole reason for brain damage but real science indicates it’s a factor.

    • madscout12

      One of the best posts ever. Awesome.

      • AlbertInTucson

        10 up votes.

        I don’t recall ever seeing that.

        Especially on anything I ever posted.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          I am pretty sure a ‘Rodgers is gay’ or ‘Rodgers dead’ post hit 10 once.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Those are too easy.

            Larry knows how to pick his spots.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Make it 11. And none of THOSE is even Larry.

          • AlbertInTucson

            A Dozen. And not even CanadaBear.

          • CanadaBear

            I was working on a Blues Festival til this AM.

          • AlbertInTucson

            What?!

            You mean you have a LIFE?

            I think you would approve “Lurking Larry”s comments.

    • King of DBB

      Was Trestman your coach in the CFL?

    • madscout12

      Gotta say that I know a guy like you who had chances with the Browns and a few others. Was his dream to play. You guys can get hurt just as much as the guys who stick, for less bucks. Injuries suck, but I don’t want to see an NFL where guys don’t compete for jobs. I certainly don’t want to see a Bears team where there isn’t competition. All the best to you whatever you’re doing now.

    • AlbertInTucson

      So, Larry, is it fair to say, even based on preseason, the Bears at least look “competitive”?

  • SC Dave

    “What exactly can’t he do? What exactly does being on the sideline help him develop?”

    Since there is nothing he can’t do, there is nothing he needs to develop. Ergo the bench to avoid injury is the right place, rather than the field of “uselessness” Jeff derides.

  • BerwynBomber

    Wow. Bradford with a Rodgers-like play. Didn’t think he had it in him. Though I can’t imagine he will get away with 360 moves with any regularity.

  • BerwynBomber

    Wonder if Shanny Jr. will make the Niners too competitive, and/or take them out of the 2018 draft sweepstakes.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Have only seen highlights and clips.

    Looks like Long leaving the line makes us better? That looked like a very clean pocket around Mitchell.

    Watching all the injuries around the league, was hoping we’d escape this year. Losing Cam is terrible. Deonte will pick up the slack, White gets an opportunity, and Tanner Gentry has made the team.

    DST looking good!

    • willbest

      Long has yet to play. This was with your buddy WH in at guard and Bonus playing center though. Also, Sitton either didn’t play or was pulled early.

      • Irish Sweetness

        So who was at guard with WH?

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        pretty sure Sitton was just pulled early.

    • Bender McLugh

      Gentry looks good

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis
    • Our backup didn’t do too shabby for being thrown in
      I’m no expert in longsnappers though

      • willbest

        A rather decent plus for anybody looking to make the team as the swing tackle.

  • madscout12
  • AlbertInTucson

    VERY entertaining finish to 49ers-Vikings.

    • willbest

      I don’t think I am thirsty enough for the season to start to be watching other people’s preseasons

      • AlbertInTucson

        Just got out of the pool and turned on the NBC game.

        Happened to catch the last 4 plays of the game.

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  • As horrible as the Meredith inj was, it could’ve been worse.

    Players who are more vital for a competitive season

    – Hicks
    – Howard
    – Leno
    – Freeman
    – Floyd
    – Goldman
    – Whitehair
    – Demps
    – Glennon/Trub

    edit. Knock on wood

    • Irish Sweetness

      Dude .. .Demps? We don’t even know if he can play safety in a Bears’ uni yet.

      Cam was our #1 receiver … not a Julio-type #1 … but still … they don’t grow on trees.

      • I have more faith in White, Gentry, Wright, Wheaton,Thompson, Cruz making up for Cam.

        I DO NOT place that same faith in Amos or Prosinski

        Not to mention when we go double-triple TE

  • Didn’t we suck more than the Jets, ergo, would’ve had priority on Ealy?

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/08/27/seven-team-made-waivers-claims-for-kony-ealy/

    Guess we’re fine with Unrein and Wilson.

    • at this point, Unrein is the 6th man in the rotation. They won’t keep Wilson.

      And yes, I’m fine with Unrein in that role. Ealy isn’t currently big enough for 3-4 DE, and isn’t good enough to make their roster at 3-4 OLB.

      • leftcoastdave

        Not to mention the rising star of RRH.

        Dude’s been pushing nicely up front.

        • he got some reps with the 1s after Howard was kicked out, and almost got a sack (he did force a bad throw) with a vicious bull rush that knocked a G back into Mariota.

  • Cormonster

    I watched some of the game today and seen Dowell Loggains for the first time and started laughing. BirdCage is such a fitting nickname. Who came up with that one?

      • Cormonster

        Well done.

        • I took one look at him once Gase left, and asked, “Is this Nathan Lane? Can some dude who looks like he starred in Birdcage handle smoking Jay?”

          The answer, as we all found out, was ‘NO’.

          He was my #1 concern around this time last yr.

          But, he’s proven more than capable (w/out Cutler).

          Let’s hope he can keep it rolling, Pilgrim.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Thuhh sun’ll come out TO-MoRRROWWWW .. betcha bottom dollar that TO-MOR-OWWWWW …
      etc.,….

  • madscout12

    Rewatched the game. Mitch worked almost exclusively from under center. Took 3-5-7 step drops. Rolled out like once. Remember how we were getting on him for not being able to do that last week? It appears that shouldn’t have been a concern.

    Perhaps we let the kid learn with a little OJT.

    • He also had two nearly back to back delay of game penalties and fell going backwards from C.

      • Johnnywad

        This has to be what developing a QB looks like. We’ve never seen it.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Y’all forget baby boy’s birthday …

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHrVw4IV0AAyIv4.jpg

  • Irish Sweetness

    Tarik’s like a littler Kevin Hart … except funny.

    http://www.chicagobears.com/multimedia/videos/Cohen_on_breaking_tackles_getting_in_the_endzone/c5916e7f-fea5-4e7e-97d0-9c2602efc4b6

    And he wants Chocolate Badger as a nickname. Sounds like the boy eats shit, but it’s his call.

  • SC Dave

    Houston stuff looking pretty grim.

    What’s amazing is all the know-it-all folk questioning why they chose not to evacuate 6.5 MILLION people. The logistical impossibility of such a thing evidently does not impress itself upon people.

    • willbest

      The evacuating part is easy. Its what to do with them once they are out. I have family in Houston and they aren’t significantly affected by it. Well other than having 16 people from their church living in their home this week, and probably next.

  • Adam Truelove

    “They’re a good team with a glaring weakness.”

    Yup, and that weakness is Fox…who thinks Glennon played “superb” yesterday.

    • willbest

      What is with people thinking that Fox was dosed with Sodium Pentothal before he talked to the reporters?

  • King of DBB
  • Big Mike

    Stopping by. Jeff’s broken record on Trubisky is getting old. He’s good, he might even be special. Bears have decided to go with Glennon. He had a 100+ passer rating. He missed a throw or two. Happens to every QB. Take it as a sign of progress and be happy about it. Team looks strong on both lines.

    • BearDown100393

      Game 3 is generally accepted as the most meaningful in pre-season. And both guys did their jobs well. We should be satisfied.

    • SC Dave

      It’s been old for a couple of weeks now.

      • leftcoastdave

        Seems like months.

        • willbest

          No, he didn’t have the daily whispers and rumors about Trubisky excelling in camp months ago.

          • leftcoastdave

            Seems like years.

      • BerwynBomber

        I took a couple weeks off and the two days I’ve been back Jeff has been tweeting up a Trisky/Giraffe storm. Seems tiring.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Go look up “Lurking Larry” ‘s post from about 15 hours ago.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        do you guys really find this shocking? that is the way Jeff has always been. Don’t read his tweets it helps.

      • The oddest part of this whole Jeff bit is that for YEARS he was Cutler’s biggest backer.

        And Jeff didn’t write some sort of Eulogy for his end in chicago.

        He didn’t even say ‘goodbye’ or anything.

        Just transferred his QB love to Trub without missing a beat.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      woohoo! 100+ passer rating. But he is still inaccurate, still stares down receivers, and still looks lost when a play breaks down.

      • bigrobstunner

        throws balls into the ground, short and behind receivers….. Let the kid play!!!

      • Big Mike

        ½ full, or ½ empty your choice.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          I agree with Jeff, Glennon is the wrong choice. He wasn’t any good in TB, he racked up pure garbage time stats. He has a few decent series in the 3rd preseason game and people somehow think he has changed, and want to disregard how he utterly sucked in the other 2 PS games.

          Prediction: we will have a Good Mike/Bad Mike situation before the 3rd regular season game.

          • Big Mike

            We’ll see. I’m backing the Bears decision. They were smart enough to get both of these guys. I’m betting on them being smart enough to make the right call here.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            don’t confuse smarts and desperation when it came to the Glennon signing. Bears did not have a QB they were desperate, and went hard after Glennon.

          • Big Mike

            I’m an optimist. Pace’s moves all fit together. If the guy who is building this team thinks Glennon should start, there you go. What a great situation to think you’ve got a diamond in the rough on the bench, a guy who I believe is better than Barkley, or Hoyer, an up and coming defense, an offensive line that even without their best guy looks like a top unit. Maybe we’re in good shape this year. Somewhere down the line, Trubisky will get a shot to play.

  • BearDown100393

    I’m looking forward to the season. The defense looks hungry again. The rookies are flashing. Glennon did his job yesterday and with Mitch in the wings, the future shines bright. So much better than a year ago.

  • leftcoastdave

    Da Bears D seven are making everybody else look bad and that is good. The O-line is getting it done with two big pieces down.

    What will the waiver wire bring this year?

    • BerwynBomber

      My thoughts too. Gotta imagine Pace signs a WR in the next couple of weeks, and a decent chance we will have heard of the guy.

      • leftcoastdave

        Hope springs eternal for more draft picks trading talent where we are deep. Unrein? Miller? Langford? An LB?

        We have some cuts coming who will clearly get snatched up.

        • BerwynBomber

          I don’t see it. Teams will wait for those types of players to be cut rather than offer anything for them.

          P.S. I’m starting to think Miller makes the team and Brown will be cut instead.

          • Of course Brown will be cut.

            There was some looney talk about him being kept over Miller when Miller is hands down our best playmaking TE while Brown is PS material

            Keep Miller as long as he’s healthy.
            When he breaks down, we promote Sims and Shaheen and call up Brown or Braukner who will be free.

          • BerwynBomber

            Brown has good hands. At least he did last year. Plus, Miller is old, frail and relatively pricy. Hence, the loony talk.

          • Brown is the def of a JAG. He will never in a million yrs make a play like this

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlF4gEkQj2I

            As for expensive, we have more than enough cap since Pace is a cheapskate.

            The offense needs MORE playmakers, not less, esp now that Cam is down.

            We cut Miller, 5 teams will be all over him.

            We cut Brown and Braunk, they may get some calls, but that’s about it.

          • leftcoastdave

            Agree with Cam down we need the target. But with 5 teams over him if he gets cut, that means some would consider a trade.

          • Ppl often assume if teams jump on a player on the wire, that they’d trade for him.

            WRONG.

            Look at Ealy.

            Pats cut him.

            Immediately 5 teams claimed him (Jets sucked worst, so they got him)

            Teams like everyone prefer free shit.

          • BerwynBomber

            Oh, there is no doubt Miller is more talented than Brown. The problem is once you factor in availability, Miller starts looking a bit JAG-y himself.

            I think the most receptions he is ever had for a single year is 30 or something.

            Anyway, this is all moot given Brown will soon be gone.

  • King of DBB

    A meteorologist said on the tube that Harvey picked up and dropped 500 BILLION *gallons* of water from the Gulf.

    THat seems alot.

  • King of DBB

    Don’t forget that we get 3rd dibs on every player to hit waivers. Another advantage of the draft position.

    • BearDown100393

      Any names?

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        sure. Tim, Dave, Bob, John, Matt, Jerome, Steve…
        how many you want?

        • BearDown100393

          Oh…. Peyton, Walter, Dick….

  • Sactowns#1

    Do we have a draft date set for the blog FF league?

    • It’s looking like this sat at dusk (5-6 pacific. When is Shabbos over in Chi?)

      I’ll do the reminder a bit later.

      White shoots up in price…

  • leftcoastdave

    After watching the 9ers beat up on the Viqueen during “it matters” time, were da Bears of yesterday to play the Viqueen of yesterday it would not be a contest. Da Bears D-7 would own the game.

    Da Bears have the best “team in the trenches” in the NFC North. That, in my humble opinion, should win the division. The corners are the only glaring question at this point. We shall see how that combination plays out as the season grinds on and whether the O line can remain solid.

    Playoffs, baby!

    • BerwynBomber

      I share part of your optimism. We do have the best team in the trenches and we very well might have the best D in the division, though our secondary might be no more than average.

      We should also have the best RB/ground game in the division, and our OL, if ever healthy, will be the best in the division.

      MIN will be interesting given how they collapsed the second half of last year. DET should be competitive but not much beyond that. GB will be its usual one man band and not much else.

      The division on a whole should be highly competitive.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Don’t forget we have the worst QB in the division.

        • BerwynBomber

          True but there is a chance that either Giraffe or Trisky are not that far behind Stafford and Bradford.

          Rodgers, of course, is another realm but the Cheese are, at best, an average team otherwise.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            “there is a chance that either Giraffe or Trisky are not that far behind Stafford and Bradford.”
            That statement is only half truth. Giraffe is not, was not, and never will be that far behind Stafford or Bradford.

        • leftcoastdave

          Without control in the trenches, you need a Rodgers or better to win.

          • Yeah, but the Puke do indeed have Vadgers.

          • leftcoastdave

            Which will make those games most competitive, IMHO. But I think our D-7 wins the division.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-2QCIJFnbo

          • BerwynBomber

            Of course. But they’re wasting him.

            If the Cheese had jettisoned Capers — who hasn’t been a good DC since Woodson was an All-Pro — and replaced him with a Phillips or Bradley, I truly think GB could contend for an SB. They could be scary.

            But as it is Rodgers will probably carry them to the post-season and the GB D will give up 38 points in one of the games and be sent on vacation. Business as usual.

  • willbest

    Ah man… the NFL did away with the cutdown to 75-man after the 3rd preseason this year. It goes from 90 to 53. Its going to be chaos next week.

    • Yeah, I don’t like that. But apparently, coaches love it cuz they don’t want to play anyone important in the 4rth game.

      Scrubs are expendable.

      I would argue that scrubs have always played the 4rth PS game, it was just rearranging decks at the titanic by that point.

      • but this gives them 15 more scrubs to play, so fewer guys who they don’t want to get hurt will have to fill in.

        Players like it too because it’s a chance for more of these guys to get film out there, increasing their odds of landing elsewhere.

        Win-win.

        • I would imagine CERTAIN players like it.

          For instance, the VERY bottom rung of the 90.

          But other guys who are borderline starters, they may get caught in no man’s zone.

          The expendable scrubs will get major playing time, while their reps will be limited because they’re just a TAD more valuable.

          Just depends.

          I would imagine that if you have an extra week for your agent to land you on a team, that would be preferable.

          As of now, it’s going to be a feeding FRENZY next Sat.

          So as a fringe player, you go from on a roster to OUT of the league essentially overnight.

          And that’s nothing to say of the quality of the last PS game which I’m sure teams still gonna charge the same.

          We’ll see. Should be interesting to see how it plays out.

          • if you’re valuable enough to be sat for game 4, you’re already secure on the roster.

  • leftcoastdave
  • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7qQtadYqsI
    Burfict getting a 5 game suspension for this? League did this to themselves by letting guys just come across the middle to try to create more offense and scoring.
    You should never be allowed to come over the middle. The role of the middle linebacker and safety is and always has been to fucking regulate. Regulate.

  • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

    Any news on the severity of Floyd’s foot injury?

    • willbest

      So our best pass rusher is fucked up already. Wonderful.

  • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

    I am still amazed that Mayweather/McGregor, an exhibition fight, allowed both fighters to make that much money. McGregor dished out less punishment in the entire fight than Marco Antonio Barrera dished out to Erik Morales…..in the first 30 seconds of their first encounter. Watch this to remind yourself what real boxing is:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2BiK8DwBEw

    • Those Barrera Morales fights were epic.

      Maybe that’s why McGregor was trying to make Mayweather mex.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zZ9X2NDnlo

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        Chavez/De LaHoya
        Barrera/Morales
        Roy Jones Jr
        Bernard Hopkins (The executioner)
        Ike Quartey
        Sugar Shane Mosley
        Trinidad
        Fernando Vargas
        Macho Camacho
        Pernell Whitaker (The real Pernell!!)
        That was my youth, watching fights, playing ball, acing latin class like a motherfucker, damn it felt good to be a gangster.

        • King of DBB

          ha

    • King of DBB
      • SC Dave

        Now, no one click on a Bayless link, okay?

      • There was that one rd, it was early, where it looked like McGregor hurt Mayweather, and the ref jumped in IMMEDIATELY while Mayweather recovered (and was playing it off like it was a low blow)

        It did indeed look like it, but I haven’t seen the replay.

        We all know McGregor’s only chance was to land that one big shot. Maybe he did land it, but the ref jumped in

    • willbest

      Because both guys put in a lot of work promoting the fight. People like to be entertained. And it was entertaining.

  • willbest

    So our WR core this year is
    1) Wright
    2) White
    3) Wheaton
    4) Thompson
    5) ??
    6) ??

    At this point I think its Gentry and Cruz, but I am hoping we go get somebody like Allen Hurns. Though I don’t know what kind of draft compensation I am willing to give up for him. A 4th, sure. Both 4ths? We don’t have a 3rd. Giving up a 2nd seems out of the question.

    • Bellamy will stick for ST. Gentry could stick as well.

      Titus Davis is ahead of Cruz, who has zero chance at making this roster.

      • SC Dave

        I think Gentry makes it.

        • He very well might. They’ve been working him into ST more as the preseason progresses, which is usually an indication that they’re trying to find a roster spot for him.

          He had a shot before Cam got hurt. I think that injury sealed it for him.

        • Sactowns#1

          That reception was nice and he’s a ST contributor. He stays.

          • SC Dave

            Media been chirping about his chemistry with Trubisky since the second or third day of camp.

      • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

        Bellamy is done…has a bum ankle and has not played in weeks. Gentry has been the gunner on punt teams.

        Ben Braunecker has the most ST snaps in each of the 3 preaseason games so far. That sounds like he is a lock to make the roster.

        • Brauneker sticking would mean Daniel Brown is cut, unless they want to keep 5 TEs. That’d be interesting, but I think you’re right.

          • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

            My guess is that Cam’s injury means more Zach Miller as pass catcher. And we know he is bound to get hurt at some point. So Daniel Brown (who was a WR till last year) will be covering for him and will replace Miller snaps once he gets hurt.

            So I expect them to go with 5 TEs.

          • SC Dave

            At some point they are going to get Shaheen in the mix. I suspect that might happen before Brown or Brauneker see too much action.

    • Sactowns#1

      I prefer Tommy Hurns.

      • AlbertInTucson

        That was Thomas “The Hit Man” Hearns.

        He was a knocked out in the 3rd round when he fought Marvelous Marvin Hagler.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      you forgot BRAVERMAN!

      • willbest

        I thought we already established he was going to put up 1100 yards and 12 TDs on the Pats becoming Tom Brady’s favorite WR over the next 3 season being an instrumental component in the Pats 4-peat to cap Brady’s career.

  • Sactowns#1

    Any word on the Floyd injury? I know losing WR’s sucks but losing a dynamic player like Floyd would be more impactful, in my opinion.

  • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

    Ragland traded to the Chiefs for a 4th Rounder…..in 2019. Haha, wtf?

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/08/28/bills-ship-reggie-ragland-to-chiefs/

    • SC Dave

      I wonder how many guys around here wanted him instead of someone we picked.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        there was a few. Not top choice but his name was thrown around.

      • I remember people being pissed when Bears traded the pick that was Ragland to the Bills and moved down.

        Bears ended up with Whitehair and (after a slight trade up) Kwiatkoski. Not too shabby.

        • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

          haha, why do we keep including Kwiatoski in examples of hopefulness or solid performances. Does anyone truly watch this guy play?
          Hint: I did. It’s bad.

          • I think he’s been solid this preseason. Solid depth at the very least. Either way, landing Whitehair in that trade is a clear win, plus depth elsewhere at worst.

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        based on his play at a top college program not a lot of people felt it would have been a bad pick.

      • I know Irish wanted him.
        I remember this because I always had to keep calling him RoboRagland cuz he was as stiff as Robocop, and that he would drop.

        Memo to all: there’s a MILLION ILB stiffs who can’t cover but made a thousand tackles in college and some highlight hits.

        They’re like weeds (we have like 3 of them – Timu, Anderson, Jones)

        What is much more rare is the true 3 down ILB with athleticism, instincts, technique and coverage skills.

        So next draft, plz avoid talk about drafting Robocops high por favor~!

  • That Guy

    So, Glennon didn’t play himself out of the starting gig. Fox (with Howard) has shown that he is hesitant to rock the boat with rookies, but I think anyone with eyes (and that includes Pace) can see that Trubisky is all upside, while we’ve seen the high-water mark with Glennon. Yet Glennon is going to get the start.

    Which tells me the regime has pretty well written off 2017.

    Which tells me that they also have something more about Trubisky that they want him to sit for.

    Which makes me think Long is not coming back anytime soon. Pacebot is worried about Trubisky getting Carr’ed. Which makes me think Grasu is expected to struggle, too.

    And/or they want Trubisky running the scout team to get a lot more reps under center and calling plays in the huddle. Preseason is about a pared-down playbook and progressions; Trubisky has done well so far, but I think they want him to get better before they throw him to the wolves behind a line that may not be 100%. And with Cam out, his WR corps is not going to be as good at helping him out.

    All in all, this is a sacrificial year. Glennon gets broke, oh well. He was a loaner. They want to conserve Trubisky for 2018. It’s less about him learning, and more about solidifying the team (especially the protection) around him.

    So let’s start identifying the top OT talent in the 2018 draft. The interior OLine will be sorted out soon enough.

    (There, did I give up on this season appropriately?)

    • Overall I think Grasu has looked pretty solid the last 2 weeks, but he was pushed back into Trubisky on the fumble yesterday.

      And I think this is much more about Fox’s desire to be conservative and play it safe than them giving up on 2017. Coaches especially don’t do that.

    • SC Dave

      All this nonsense about seeing Glennon’s high water mark has no credibility. He has played less than two games in a new system with new teammates.

  • SC Dave

    Bears reportedly signed Jeff Overbaugh to be long snapper.

    ‘According to Stephan Wiebe of the Alaska Dispatch News, Overbaugh “didn’t botch a snap on all 134 extra points, 55 field goals and 164 punts,” during his senior year with the Aztecs.’

    • so in 13 games they scored 134 TD, kicked 55 FGs, and punted 164 times? That’s a total of 27 possessions per game, typical is 10-12. It would also mean they averaged about 85 points per game.

      I’m calling BS on those stats. That’s his whole career, not just senior year.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I hope college long-snapper stats translate to the NFL better than a lot of college kicker & punter stats.

  • King of DBB
    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      That Minion’s penis outline is burned into my retinas now.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Does anyone else think that if Edelman played on crutches he could still rack up 50 catches for New England with Brady?

  • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

    I vontazed a burrito at lunch today. That little meat bitch didn’t even see it coming.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    well we knew Cam tore his ACL, but it sounds like the poor kid messed a lot more up in his knee.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/08/28/cameron-meredith-has-torn-acl-other-damage-to-knee/

    • SC Dave

      Tgat was evident to me at the time as I posted. Too much displacement to just be one ligament.

      I would not be surprised if he did his MCL and also suffer extensive cartilage damage.

  • FF alert OK, losers. It’s time.

    What I did is re-opened Da League from last yr, so let me know if you guys automatically got invites through your emails, or if I have to send them out again individually.

    The teams last yr:

    Moi, Artoo, NBIT, Trac, Shady, Waffle, GP, Sac, Koolaid man? Bear 505?

    Trac said he might be out, but Irish and Fres said they want in. So if you guys can, lemme know here who’s in or out that way I know what I’m working with por favor.

    Sooner the better.

    Draft Type/Date: Sept 2 – 10pm Eastern

    (usu takes an hr or so, depending. Auction. $200 budget (not real $$$ unless u use bitcoin)

    The wire is blind bid, which means, you get $100 at the start of the season, and can “bid” on any player for any amount from week to week. This is much better than just awarding losers priority and gives teams more flexibility. If you wanna blow ur wad on on player, fine. If you wanna save for a rainy day, fine. But it’s up to you and not mere chance.

    Shady is the reigning champ, so if you guys want a piece of him, throw ur hat in the ring.

    • OK, so NBIT is in.

      And his team is…Cohen’s White Rabi

      So it begins…

      • King of DBB

        Cohen’s White Rabbai. Lol

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        I checked my ESPN account and by a miracle got in it. PaceBot 2000 is fucking mission ready.

        what email address is that one attached to?

        • Yeah, I wasn’t sure if by simply re-opening league, it sent out mass invite or not.
          SO I sent invite individually too instead of going through my email boxes that is littered with Russian brides wanting to vodka skype.

  • AlbertInTucson

    I thought they outplayed the Cardinals on both sides of the ball last week, even with Glennon still feeling his way around.

    And I am a well-known PESSIMIST around these parts.

    In any case, thank you for your cogent insights.

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