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No Reason To Freak Out About Kevin White

| May 31st, 2017

Jose M. Osorio/Chicago Tribune

It was insane.

Kevin White missed an OTA practice that wasn’t relevant enough to conclude anything about this Bears squad and both media members and fans started writing him off as a bust.

I agree with WGN’s Adam Hoge that the Bears could’ve helped the situation. John Fox could’ve been clear that White wasn’t injured; that it was just a day off for any reason he wanted to give. Fox’s vague responses can’t be trusted, so he really should’ve said something to ease concern.

But should he have to do that for people to not jump off the deep end?

As Adam Jahns said in the DBB Weekend Show last week, there are quite a few reasons why White may not have been practicing –  reasons that have little to do with his current health. White was on the sideline and Mike Glennon told everybody he practiced the previous day.

As he tends to do, the Chicago Tribune’s Rich Campbell tried to create even more panic with a column that contained a variety of things that ranged from stretching the truth to flat out making shit up:

“After a stress fracture in his left tibia ruined his rookie season and a left fibular spiral fracture and severe ankle ligament damage cost him 12 games last season, White spent the last few months working to align his stride.

Following two leg surgeries, is he the same downfield threat the Bears expected when he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.35 seconds more than two years ago? The Bears don’t know. Tuesday offered no reasons for optimism, and although quarterback Mike Glennon indicated White practiced Monday, Fox declined to say whether White will return to the field during OTAs.”

Slow down.

I did some looking back and no severe ankle ligament damage was ever reported. Not by the Trib. Not by anyone. It was a high ankle sprain. Big difference.

As for what the Bears know, they’ve seen White this offseason. Hell, they saw him the previous day. They know how he looks.

What’s particularly odd about Campbell’s line of questioning in this column is that he asked Ryan Pace the same question about White’s speed in January and Pace answered, without hesitation, that he expects White to be just as fast before adding “this is 100 percent recoverable.” In fact, if we go back to that press conference in January Pace outlined the plan for White. So, why the confusion?

After the report that White missed the OTA practice, fans and several bloggers proceeded to declare him a bust. He’ll never be able to play and we shouldn’t expect anything from him. Because he missed an OTA practice. Seriously.

It’s worth noting that White returned to practice this week, for the media to see at Tuesday’s open OTA. And, by all accounts, he looked healthy. If there was some sort of debilitating injury last week, it went away really quickly.

White needs to stay on the field. Two lower leg injuries to the same leg are concerning, but all indications from people who would know are that they weren’t connected and that he is expected to make a full recovery.

I don’t know what kind of player White will be this year or in his career. I don’t see any real reason to change my opinion from when he entered the league. He has a lot to learn, but also has a lot to work with. We saw some of those tools last year but we also saw a player who was thinking too much.

Maybe White will get hurt again. Or maybe he just isn’t any good. I don’t know if either will be the case. But the panic based on him missing a single OTA practice was beyond crazy.

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  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    so the NFL says they will be more lax on the TD celebrations, I am going to wait to see a player do this.
    http://www.craveonline.com/mandatory/1270577-lfl-player-motorboats-busty-fan-after-touchdown

    • BearDown100393

      Owens already did.

    • CanadaBear

      Gotta love that! Roger would bar her for life.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Is anyone remotely worried about White?

    When he’s fit he might make 4th or 5th on the depth chart … IF he even makes the roster. Did I see Eddie Royal’s name somewhere? Is he still a Bear? That’s some list of receivers we have now.

    If the penny drops for Kev this season, then great. That’s a cherry on top. No.need to hold our breath though. Only question is whether or not he’s worth the spot.

    • Big Mike

      Irish, you of all of our regulars, should be excited about Kevin White. You fall in love with UDFAs, you love all of our slow white receivers, champion of the 6th and 7th round draft choices, discards from other teams. Kevin White has had two freakish injuries. If your protecting yourself from getting your hopes up and getting smacked in the head, I get it. But Kevin White was a consensus top 10 and arguably one of the best 5 players in his draft class.

      So the only qualifier on White is health. It’s a huge one. How healthy is he? At full health, we’ve got a stud on our squad. Not a bust.

      • The “freak” injuries aren’t the concerns. The TITANIUM ROD in his leg is.

        I remember Ryan Matthews broke one clavicle one season, then next season broke the other one!

        Talk about “freak” accidents. But those weren’t as concerning since they didn’t have to infuse his skeleton like wolverine.

        • Big Mike

          That’s the one he injured his rookie year. He’s two years removed from that injury. Seemed like he was starting to get a bit of a groove last season. But you are correct. The yr 1 injury is the one that could have reduced his speed. Maybe Kevin (Wolverine) White will be faster.. 🙂

    • Bender McLugh

      Royal is long gone man. Kendall Wright & Marcus Wheaton would be the slot guys (maybe). I can’t see White being the 4th or 5th but 2nd or 3rd at worst. Hopefully he’s our #1.

      • Bender McLugh

        and, of course….. future GOAT Braverman.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          I wish we could clone Braverman so we could have 4 or 5 of him on the team.

  • SC Dave

    “He’ll never be able to play and we shouldn’t expect anything from him. Because he missed an OTA practice. Seriously.”

    Wrong, Andrew.

    Fans don’t expect anything of Kevin White because he has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in a Bears uniform to warrant being drafted, let alone #7 overall.

    Even in those few games where he managed to make it onto the field he showed less play-making ability than Cam Meredith and less ability to get open than Josh Bellamy. And far outperformed by Alshon Jeffery, viz (targets, catches, yards):

    Jeffery:
    6, 4, 105
    7, 5, 96
    7, 5, 70
    5, 3, 46

    White:
    7, 3, 34
    6, 4, 36
    14, 6, 62
    9, 6, 55

    Overall,
    Jeffery: 25, 17, 317 (approx 12.7 yards per target)
    White: 36, 19, 187 (approx 5.2 yards per target)

    • Big Mike

      Kevin White was a consensus top10 and arguable a top5 draft choice. He got injured twice. In my book, that means he was a waste for the last 2 seasons. In my book it also means we should evaluate him like a rookie. Shit, people are getting excited about old ass Victor Cruz. Pining for old ass Eddie Royal, when we very well could have a Ferrari in our garage. I understand not getting hopes up, but Kevin White has more potential to be a stud than anyone on the roster.

      • BearDown100393

        Are you assuming a 100% White or now injury compromised?

        • Big Mike

          No assumption either way. Just said evaluate him as a rookie and he has more potential than anyone on the team. His injury could have wiped out his top gear, or not. Clearly that’s a huge set back. But we don’t know. What if his 4.35 is a 4.45, or 4.5? Still has a shot at being a very good receiver.

          • BearDown100393

            I think this is spot on.

      • SC Dave

        I am excited about neither Eddie Royal nor Victor Cruz. Of everyone, I have to say I’m most hopeful about Cam Meredith.

        • Big Mike

          Undrafted for a reason. Could be a find. Looked good compared to a bunch of shit last year. I agree with you. But White still has more potential. (higher ceiling).

          • SC Dave

            I’m not disagreeing with you. I was disagreeing with Andrew. Unreached ceilings mean nothing.

          • Big Mike

            I think an unreached ceiling for a guy who hasn’t had a shot at proving himself due to injury is talent that could explode on the scene.

          • SC Dave

            We’ll see. It would be nice. But he’ll have to show a lot more than he did last year when on the field. The numbers reflect what we all saw.

          • Big Mike

            The numbers reflect an offense that sucked and a “rookie” in his first four games. Each game he got a bit better. Will take time to get chemistry with Glennon. (that’s my hope anyway).

          • SC Dave

            If it was the offense that sucked, why were Alshon’s yards per target 250% higher than White’s? Those numbers are from the same four games.

          • Big Mike

            Alshon is a veteran, near pro-bowl quality #1 receiver that’s why. Kevin White was basically a rookie.

          • CanadaBear

            I desperately want to believe because KW seems very likable and the Bears need him to be that guy but until I see more than last year …

          • DaCoaches Mustache

            was he hurt when playing last year? Because he looked like hot garbage. I think we all want him to succeed, it’s just fucking completely insane to thing he’s going to be anything other than a buster. 213 will regulate.

          • Big Mike

            He looked like a guy who hadn’t played in a year. In spite of that here’s a quick recap on his 3 ½ games from last year.

            According to ESPN “He showed of flashes of the game-breaking ability that made him a top-10 pick” He had 34 yards receiving. – Game 1. Cutler injured in game 2. Was targeted 6 times caught 4 balls. Averaged 9 yards per catch with a 19 yard catch in the mix. Game 3 he had 6 catches for 62 yards and a long of 32 yards Bears were blown out by Dallas. in game 4 he had 6 receptions in the first half. Again with Hoyer at QB.

        • Ryan Pace

          We have plenty of WR’s that have shown they can play in this league in M.Wheaton, K.Wright, V.Cruz and C.Meredith and we have K.White who if he can stay healthy still has a chance to show he can play in this league. Now of course each one has question marks in some way weather that be injury histories or being inconsistent, but i’m not as worried as most that we can’t win with the guys we have if they can stay healthy and if Glennon can play good football.

      • willbest

        Only insane people

        Here is the talent on our roster

        1) Meredith
        2) Wheaton
        3) Wright
        4) Cruz
        5) Bellamy

        White, Randel, Thompson, Tanner, Titus, and Braverman can all fight over that #6 spot assuming Cruz and Wright make it through camp.

        • CanadaBear

          KW’s contract is guaranteed so you know he’s not going anywhere.

          • willbest

            I know it is. Unfortunately that means something to the McCaskey’s even though it makes the 53-man roster less competitive.

          • CanadaBear

            I have no issue keeping KW on the roster. He might turn the corner and be productive. He has a good attitude and is trying like hell to have a career. Whoever he bumps off the roster won’t have that possible upside. Now Kyle Fuller on the other hand …

        • Big Mike

          Couldn’t be more wrong on White. Bellamy, Cruz won’t make the team.

          • DaCoaches Mustache

            to me, even with all of the drops. Bellamy showed more than White did last year. The guy was constantly open. He couldn’t catch a cold, but he was open as shit multiple times every game last year. White was not in the 3.5 games he played he was almost never open. Lotta mercy

          • Big Mike

            Catching is one of the requirements for a receiver. The Bears were also running hurry up offenses against prevent defenses by the time they were throwing to Bellamy.

        • Andrew Dannehy

          White is currently working with the starters.

          • willbest

            As I said belowe, his guaranteed money guarantees he will be wasting a roster spot.

          • SC Dave

            If we are force-fed White regardless of his effectiveness and Jeremy Langford remains on the roster, we can be pretty sure Pace’s ego is affecting his roster judgments.

          • CanadaBear

            I can see a case for KW. Langford, not so much.

          • SC Dave

            I was not proposing cutting KW. Just not leaving him starting if other guys are more effective.

            Like not playing Howard last year.

          • So was Langford last offseason. And even started a few games.

    • Andrew Dannehy

      In the first four games of Alshon’s career he had 12/164. White had 19/187. Let’s keep freaking out though.

      • CanadaBear

        Alshon’s first four games were his rookie year. White’s were his second year. Pretty sure White had a better handle on the playbook by the second year. Also, you could tell the Bears were targeting White in those 4 games. Doubtful they were targeting Alshon in his first 4 games. You go right ahead and give posters the gears for being dubious about White. Only two WR’s have been picked in the top 10 in the draft and missed as much time as KW. Neither of them had anything close to a good career.

        • Andrew Dannehy

          Game action is pretty important, but Alshon’s first 4 games his second year: 18/211. Not a big difference. He also had a healthy Jay Cutler for all the games referenced, whereas White had to work with Brian Hoyer as much as he did Cutler.

          • CanadaBear

            Pretty big difference in yds/target to say the least. Who knows how it will turn out but chastising us for being dubious makes no sense. There was nothing there in those 4 games that made me think KW was anything more than JAG. Not down on the guy but certainly not counting on him.

          • Andrew Dannehy

            I didn’t think I’d have to explain why going by yds/target is stupid. Go back and look at those targets.

          • CanadaBear

            Getting a little testy aren’t we? How ’bout being a little more professional? If you want to start insulting people I’m more than willing to go there. You aren’t all that!

          • SC Dave

            *sigh* Pray tell, Andrew.

            Explain how yards per catch is a better means than yards per target of explaining to effects of:

            – a receiver’s ability to catch (i..e not drop) passes
            – a receiver’s ability to win contested balls
            – a receiver’s ability to gain yards after the catch
            – the expected yards the team gets throwing to that player

        • DaCoaches Mustache

          They just kept chucking it to him in that Dallas game, and he sucked. He couldn’t catch shit i think he had one really good catch in that game but he had like 15 targets.

          • SC Dave

            14, but who’s counting?

      • SC Dave

        You are the only one freaking out, comically over other people “freaking out”.

        So far as the numbers, Alshon had 19 targets for 164 yards in his first four games – 3.4 more yards per target than White.

        • Andrew Dannehy

          Alshon was also getting most of his targets on down field throws from a good QB.

          • BearDown100393

            Hey wait up, Jay is a good quarterback now?

          • Andy and Jeff believed so, once upon a time.
            And by once upon a time, I mean last season right b4 Conte ended their delusions.

  • SC Dave

    Re: the cited article, the most interesting line was:

    “Earlier this offseason, Fox and general manager Ryan Pace promised an inquest about institutional factors contributing to the Bears’ injury woes. What that produced, the team is reluctant to publicize.”

    Pox replaced the strength and conditioning staff by 2015. So far, I’m less than impressed.

    Anyone know what came out of this?

    • BearDown100393

      John Fox completely forgot?

    • Rolle, who was an ironman in NY, swore it was the field.

      Of course, the Parks dept isn’t going to deny Gaga holding a concert 1 day b4 the Bears take the field just for lil old things like detached ligaments and titanium rods.

  • Frank Schoenburg

    Thanks for this great reporting Andrew. I was very concerned after reading a blurb on White that referenced the Campbell article. Once again Da Bears Blog is the place to go for the best Bears analysis!

    • BearDown100393

      Actually Dr. Andrew is completely wrong and should retract his statement for credibility purposes. He clearly has no medical understanding of a high ankle sprain.

      • Frank Schoenburg

        Andrew didn’t give White a 100% clean bill of health. He debunked terrible reporting and I appreciate the effort.

        • BearDown100393

          The reporting on the injury is accurate.

          • Always is for the Bears!

            Like when Cutler was gonna play the next week after injuring his thumb, then needed about 5 weeks to heal after Hoyer broke his arm, coincidentally .

            Or when Fuller was ready for week 1 then got IRed for pussyites.

            Remember when Floyd got carted off during OTAs and everyone freaked out?

            Tis but a flesh wound!

        • SC Dave

          Andrew’s statement that White’s high ankle sprain does not entail severe ligament damage is no more informed than that of the writer he chastises.

          • BearDown100393

            Boom!

          • Big Mike

            It does by definition. Severe ligament damage would require a screw, or surgery. I don’t believe White has had any of those. Rest is the best treatment. Simple RICE protocol. Up to 6 months to fully recover. The most common prognosis with rest is a full recovery.

          • SC Dave

            My point is, Mike, that nobody actually knows because the Bears won’t (and perhaps under HIPAA cannot) say.

            I did a quick look for “severe”, but the medical terminology appears to use “grades”, with the 3 being the most serious, and involving a complete detachment of the ligament from the bone. That would, as you point out, require some reattachment mechanism. One or more screws seems the most likely.

  • leftcoastdave

    Now with 99% of the team assembled for the season, is there any doubt that Pace has been brilliant in the rebuild which he has accomplished? This team is now built to beat the conference rivals and win the division.

    • BearDown100393

      19-0 removes all doubt.

  • BearDown100393

    Hey wait, Kevin White is still a Bear?

  • Malice Halice

    If either White or Cruz is healthy for 16 games. Our WR unit could be best overall. Not 2man tandem but I feel we could have 4 players with a 1k yards.

    • BearDown100393

      You have that much confidence in a healthy Kevin White’s performance at WR based on….. ????

    • SC Dave

      A fine example of homerism.

      • Big Mike

        If White is Healthy AND makes progress in route running, Meredith progresses and Cruz can stay on the field, we have a professional group of WRs. Not best overall. Competent, Professional.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Don’t forget Braverman! throw him in and we are BEST OVERALL!

        • Irish Sweetness

          Can anyone name 4 or 5 receivers on another team who are better?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Just off the top of my head Giants, Broncos, Chargers, Cardinals, Pats, Saints, and Steelers all have better WR group.

            Pushing it is teams like TB and Jacksonville.

          • TB has Mike Evans, no?

            He might get more yds, recs and TDs against us then our entire rec corps put together.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            agree but he was talking as a group. they signed DeSean Jackson as their #2 not sure who they have after that.

          • That right there is hands down better.

            Any team who starts a WR that Ds must game plan for is automatically superior to our mighty mouses.

          • Big Mike

            First of all the 4th and 5th receivers are special teams players or depth. If our 4th and 5th receivers are the best 4th and 5th receivers in the league, whoop de do. Means we have a stron JV WR corp. A 4 WR set is used less than 5% of the time. As for the top 3 receivers, (used about 50% of the time) Pick a team.. Arizona, Jacksonville, Cincinnati, Miami, San Diego, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Seattle, Denver, Oakland, NE, Atlanta all have a better top 3 than the Bears.

    • Johnnywad

      What?

  • AlbertInTucson

    Forget the ligament debate.

    I think the 2 different types of fractures in less than 2 years is plenty of reason to “freak out”.

    Especially in light of what passed for “speed” from White when he finally DID see the field.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I don’t get the hoopla over a fibula fracture. It’s just a crack across the bone. What was the other fr5acture? When did that happen? He had an ankle sprain.

      • What about the titanium rod in his leg now?

        Should he get another one implanted to balance him out?

      • AlbertInTucson

        Missed rookie season with a spiral fracture. Same leg. Rod inserted.

  • willbest

    Hard to freak out about a player that shouldn’t be on the 53-man roster

  • willbest

    I am getting freaked out that Lamarr Houston is still on the roster. That is $5 million that we could give to Leno next year since we have no heir apparent at LT and are going to have to pay him.

    • CanadaBear

      Whenever the last day is before Houston’s contract is guaranteed should be an interesting day for him.

      • willbest

        That is week 1 of the season. But if he suffers a long term injury at camp they are on the hook for it. He isn’t participating in OTAs as far as I have read.

        • CanadaBear

          I have no idea why he is still around. I thought he might be a good signing at the time but after the incredibly stupid injury, not so much.

          • willbest

            I don’t even mind him, but he is schedule to count as $7 million against the cap with $5 million salary this year. That is way too much money considering he is no higher than 4th on the depth chart behind Floyd, Young, and McPhee

          • Agree that should be mula rolled over to Leno or one of those billion “prove it” deal players we roster that don’t end up sucking balls.

            But Pacebot is odd.

            He goes bargain bin for WRs, Secondary, our biggest needs, but then apparently doesn’t mind handing out $18M to Glennon or $5M to Houston.

            ?

    • BearDown100393

      He’s a great dancer.

    • It worries me because that means McPhee (Ed Brock Awardee for screaming into his ‘franchise” QBs face and sending him to ESPN) must not be as healthy as they’re letting on (surprise surprise).

      I still think Houston should be thrown into the Dline rotation as opposed to OLB.

  • willbest

    Stafford is on the last year of his contract. I am sort of surprised he hasn’t been extended yet.

    • CanadaBear

      You know it will get done. Ever since Cooter became OC, Stafford has come into his own.

      • BerwynBomber

        Except for our home DET game last year when he looked like Stafford of old/Cutty Jr.

        • CanadaBear

          And they still won. DAMN!

          • BerwynBomber

            Nah, we actually won that game. That was Hoyer’s lone win as a starter.

            And all the Cutlerites went completely bonkers belittling Hoyer’s stats/performance afterward. The desperation was amusing.

          • CanadaBear

            Guess who’s memory is shot? That was similar to Andrew trying to make the case for KW because Cutler wasn’t in there. Last year his only good game was against the BiQueens. The other 4 were sub-par at best.

    • BearDown100393

      He’s spending quality time with Sanders and Megatron first.

  • beninnorcal

    Doesn’t he have a metal rod in his leg? I don’t think he had that when he ran a 4.35.

    • BearDown100393

      Yeah but it ain’t severe so it shouldn’t be any big problem.

      • beninnorcal

        You meant to say it ain’t ‘severed’? Well, yeah, guess you’re right about that. If it was severed he’d be demoted to WR 3.

    • Malice Halice

      Our WR unit is deep. I’m more interested n Cruz wright n Wheaton making a comeback than White. At least we know the ceiling with those 3. White still unknown imo

      • BearDown100393

        If only Pace would sign T.O. and Jerry Rice and then we would really be dynamite.

        • Malice Halice

          Isn’t Calvin considering comeback ?

          • Krush12684

            Yeah, hes coming out of retirement alright! To play for the Bears!!

    • King of DBB
    • Adamantium. Only Magneto can tackle him.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    This column reminds me of when you see a huge nasty spider in its web and your friend is near it almost walking into it. You tell them, “Don’t move!” They thus, freak the hell out and start running into the direction of the spider….

    White suffered TWO major injuries and has barely played AT ALL. Sitting out for so long, not getting any real NFL experience, this may truly be a bust. The Bears have not shown for decades on developing players properly as well as rehabbing them back from injuries…

    Well the article the column refers to does carry some “sky is falling” tone and is trying to quell that…however, we true fans have every reason to be very skeptical about any players coming back to true form, because it’s Da Bears.

    Been awhile, but hope everyone is doing well! Also…..what in the hell is going on with Jeff and his Twitter? Not sure if I need to pretend it doesn’t exist anymore. Serious Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde going on there.

    • CanadaBear

      Totally agree but have no idea about twitter for obvious reasons.

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      I remember when the Bears jettisoned Thomas Jones for Cedric Benson.

      Benson sucked for the Bears but was good for the Bengals.

      Training staff made him bulk too much (I think) and he lost his speed until he went to Cincy.

      • CanadaBear

        I think Cedrunk finally grew up a little bit. Although the dumbass still manages to make the news once in a while for the wrong reasons. Glad when he was gone.

      • madscout12

        I don’t remember speed being his problem. I remember him hitting the ground like a sack of potatoes the millisecond he got touched.

    • Irish Sweetness

      A high ankle sprain and broken fibula are hardly major injuries. They’re bad luck.

      The over-reaction to this is amazing. If he makes the roster he deserves a season to make right.

  • King of DBB

    I have inside knowledge of Kevin White’s condition.

    • BearDown100393

      Severe knowledge?

  • DaCoaches Mustache

    “I don’t know what kind of player White will be this year or in his career. I don’t see any real reason to change my opinion from when he entered the league”

    What? How about him missing 2 seasons due to injury? I get it, people over reacted because of the missed ota. But to say your expectations are not any different now than when he was drafted is fucking idiotic.

    • DaCoaches Mustache

      I have zero expectations for gaptooth gapperson.

    • King of DBB

      We’ve taken too much for granted!
      And all the time it had grown!
      From techno seeds we first planted!
      Evolved a mind of its own!
      Marching in the streets!
      Kevin is dragging iron feet!
      Laser beaming hearts
      Ripping fans apart!

    • AlbertInTucson

      SMH.

      Did he not see what passed for “running” in White’s brief stint last season?

  • King of DBB

    https://video214.com/play/DCG1PcV00Xb7bM4Tlz2JWQ/s/dark

    You can see Jay’s bannister and his stairs.

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Evan Silva‏Verified account @evansilva 26m26 minutes ago
    #Bears claimed FB Michael Burton off waivers from #Lions. PFF has graded Burton as one of the NFL’s best lead blockers the past two years.

    Bears improved their offense today. Dude is a player. Was voted captain at Rutgers. Dedicated worker and core ST player. He was Lions 5th round pick in 2015 but they have no use for him after firing their OC last year.

    I bet Jordan Howard is happy. This guy could Bears own John Kuhn..a working man’s hero.

    • SC Dave

      Some help for Jordan in short yardage would be awesome as it will cut down on the punishment he has to take.

      Me likey.

    • About time we get a TRUE FB (though Unrein was awesome).

      I hate these “H-backs” gadget pussies who can’t roadgrade a LB (Evan Rodriquez I’m looking at you).

      The FB I wanted to draft a few years back became pretty good. Kyle Jusczyk drafted by the Ravens I believe.

      Any FB with triple word score consonants will always be a badass.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Evan Rodriquez is a name I haven’t heard in awhile, is he in jail?

        • Dunno. Last I heard he got into trouble in florida (capital of where careers end) when he SHOULD’VE been TRAINING in florida with Bmarsh and crew.

          I think that was the last straw. Haven’t heard anything since.

          • CanadaBear

            According to wikipedia he played for the Lehigh Valley Steelhawks of American Indoor Football, late in the 2016 season.

          • Holy shite. Never heard of that league lol

          • CanadaBear

            It’s part of the Penn State Penal program.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Piss on ESPN, again.

    They show the Tiger dash cam video.

    Fine. I get it.

    What I DON’T get is showing more than 30 seconds worth.

    It was obvious after 10 seconds Tiger was impaired but the video just went on, and on, and on.

    Then some clown comes on to trying say the video showed the cops were confusing Woods.

    Moronic.

  • We drafted White to be our Julio Jones.
    He’s thus far looked more like old ass Rod(dy) White.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Not sure why people are higher on Cruz than White, I get people saying White has injury issues. However has anyone looked at Cruz’s injury history
    2016 – groin and ankle injuries.
    2015 – Calf injury
    2014 – tore his petalla tendon
    2013 – bruised heel missed all of the offseason – Knee during season requiring surgery.
    2010 – tore hamstring missed entire season.

    all injuries caused him to miss significant time. Cruz won’t last 10 minutes into the first game at Soldier Field with that crappy ass turf they got.

    • Anyone who is high on Cruz is indeed “high”

      The two who intrigue me most is Meredith and Wright, the latter of which had his best yr under Birdcage.

      Wheaton is that deep threat to stretch Ds, but I don’t expect prolific #s from him.

      The rest are just dart throws (including White).

      What puzzles me that we didn’t roster a “high point” WR.

      I guess we tried with Alshon, but that’s about it. The rest of the WRs are more in the Royal line – crisp route runners, or smaller burners, but no big bodied power forwards.

      It strikes me as odd since we have two new QBs who might benefit from those big WRs, and esp since Glennon was used to them in TB.

      It would also theoretically help Trub once he’s in, having a safety valve type he can just chuck it to from time to time.

      I wonder if this is Birdcage or Pace?

      Saints had lots of those route type WRs Brees could throw darts at, but they still had Colston, a 6’4 dude.

      Graham I guess was their Bmarsh/Alshon, and maybe that’s what Sasheen supposed to be for Glennon/Trub, but we don’t have a Colston type.

      Wonder if we try to get one this season.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        I got a feeling that White, with his decreased speed will now be our Colston type, if he can stay healthy. Colston was never a burner, and him and White are the same body type.

        • Drafting a Colston in the top #10 would be a bitter pill to down.

          (Colston, from Hofstra, drafted in the 7th rd)

          But seems like we’d be lucky to even squeeze that out of White.

          • willbest

            Getting any value from White at this point is better than where I have him, which is a waste of a roster spot.

      • SC Dave

        Agree on the Shaheen theory.

      • DaCoaches Mustache

        I think Cam is the high point guy, no?

        • Bender McLugh

          Cam is 6’3″ & Shaheen is 6’6″. Both should be good for the high point guys.

          Good movie title too, “The High Point Guys”

        • I don’t recall Cam ever winning a jump ball like Alshon and Bmarsh did on a regular basis.

    • BearDown100393

      Because he is new to the team. And played somewhat decently for another team. Giants trash. Bears treasure. Eternal optimists rejoice.

  • CanadaBear
    • Bender McLugh

      he’s a find that’s for sure.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      it’s the offseason. Players that had their first good year say they want to prove it wasn’t a fluke and players that had bad years say they want to prove that it was just a fluke. And they are all in the best shape of their lives.

      • CanadaBear

        No doubt but this is really the doldrums around here this time of year so it’s better than nothing (as in politics).

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    new thread.

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