• MB30SD

    Jeff, why did you post his high school tape?! Where’s his college highlights??

    • Irish Sweetness

      Dude, I think that is the college. Ashland, I’ve never heard of it.

      Looks like it was just family attending the game. Like a school play. It’s shit, so only family have to go.

      • MB30SD

        I know, I was being facetious.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Fuck.

  • CRAZYBEARNORTH48

    Maybe today we’ll address the Secondary

    • MB30SD

      Hahaha… Baby gronk… Baaahahahaha

  • leftcoast dave

    Can’t say I like this pick either when some good potential OTs were on the board as well as someone else at every other position on the field.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Mayock had a first round grade to match my boner on Obi. But to think Budda was taken with our very own pick. It’s just heart-breaking. Either guy gives you a guy. We still had three picks after it.

      David Jones is a 6’3 safety, I don’t know if he can play. There’s a 6’4 guy Josh Harvey-Clemons, same.

      Really curious to see what the double is in the fourth. Safety and ILB, I hope.

      That would be something.

    • leftcoast dave

      But hey, I’ve looked around and the kid’s really got the potential with hands and the biggest body out there.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Three hours to the draft, yes?

    • MB30SD

      Who cares.

      …my god I’ve turned negative.

      Ok, I’ll stop. No point

      • Irish Sweetness

        I nearly missed it, though it might be on at the same time as 1 and 2.

        I’m tuning in for OUR safety, MB.

        He’s going to be 6’3 or 6’4. Hear me Pacey?

      • CanadaBear

        Good. You’ve been turning into a whiny little bitch. You and a bunch of others. Fuck man, being a Bears fan ain’t for sissies.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Fkn A C-Bear.

          Loving and losing, it’s what we do! Love the Bears, lose the games.

          This is a job for Pace, but we’re lifers.

          Go Bears.

          • CanadaBear

            I get being unhappy with the picks. That’s the nature of the beast. Lots of people have their guys and get pissed when they don’t get picked. But bitching for days and dozens of posts ain’t changing anything. Not to mention, none of us have a clue how this will turn out.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Exactly, but we have to let off the steam, let the overall draft enter the system, then proceed.

            No matter what happens in the draft, if we only come out of it with our QB, all is still well.

        • MB30SD

          I know, but fuck man.

          • CanadaBear

            We’ve been so fucked at QB for so long it’s unreal. A mediocre QB like Cutler was a step up for the Beloved. If Trubisky pans out, and he could, I’ll be dancing a jig for years. Of all the QB’s this year he looks like an NFL QB. Does that translate to anything? Let’s hope like hell it does. If Glennon plays well so much the better. Who knows? I didn’t love the pick (esp the including all the picks) or the TE pick but if they are listening to me, they truly are insane.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Stephen A. Smith is a prick, but he made a good point, which is why I was unhappy initially with the trade.

            So what if Trubisky goes at 2. Is this kid who pops out of nowhere and wins 8 games … markedly better than Watson, who is 32-3, 150+ rated, 3-1 TD-INTs ratio, a proven winner …. Trubisky is a handful of picks better, because ….?

            Pace had blinkers on. He wasn’t in a zen state. If he keeps his cool and doesn’t shit the bed, he’s getting either Soloman Thomas, DeShaun Watson or Trubisky, and he already knows SF don’t want a QB because they’re on the phone to him.

            They say he has nice feet. Bill Walsh said you need that, and he’s accurate, so we’ll see.

          • Ron Swanson’s Mustache

            Pace clearly believes Trubisky is a better pro prospect than Watson. That’s what it comes down to.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I hope he’s right. He’s paid to be.

          • willbest

            The Chiefs vouched for that decision when they selected Mahomes over Watson.

          • leftcoast dave

            Chiefs first choice was Trub.

          • CanadaBear

            At this point, either he pans out and who cares if he overpaid, he’s mediocre for a few years and moves on or is a total bust. It’s such a pisser about QB’s at the top of the draft but the chances of falling into a good QB is almost zero.

          • Bender McLugh

            San Fran wasn’t taking him, others were trading up to get him. Big difference

          • leftcoast dave

            And SF, being where they are on the rebuild, took Hoyer, Barkley and now my Hawkeye C.J.Beathard instead.

            Tells me Pace thinks he has built a respectable team already. We shall see.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Even so. Doesn’t matter. You go “Oh well” and draft an ever higher-probability set of dice that Watson works out. Or Solomon Thomas, or whoever.

            He out-proportionally weighed up Trubisky versus Watson.

            32-3.

          • CanadaBear

            Gotta go with your instinct if you’re Pace. That’s brought him a long way.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Saturday morning for you, whatcha’ doin’?

        • MB30SD

          Chores, then gym, the back to the office. We drop a big new build monday. Always fun.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Fuck.

            You makin’ good coin off that, that’s all yours?

          • MB30SD

            Can’t complain, but hopefully will bump bigger soon. Not all mine but I started it

          • Irish Sweetness

            It’s not a partnership, is it??

          • MB30SD

            Nope. My start up. Took vc money. They suck.

          • Cubsnlinux

            Builds on a Monday? This is something you don’t hear often.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Are you a programmer, Linux?

          • Cubsnlinux

            In a previous life before moving up the ladder, now I dabble only if something piques my interest.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I kind of miss it. I miss money.

          • Cubsnlinux

            Switched careers? Hard to keep up doing that with family and all. But it prepares you well for making big strategic decisions. I am not a fan of folks who make technology decisions with zero coding experience.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Careers. Countries. I teach computers in Thailand. Been here since 2004.

          • Ososfan

            You and me both, Irish!

          • Irish Sweetness

            What’s your deal, whatcha doin’?

          • willbest

            Its because he hates his employees

          • MB30SD

            Dropping tomorrow actually. And tell me about it. Can’t miss customer deadline Monday, but sprint ran over. Rock meet hardplace

      • Ososfan

        This is still our Bears, still gotta root for any new guys coming in, no?

        • MB30SD

          don’t really care any more. Doubt I’ll watch more than 1 game this year. Tired of a subpar product.

          Life’s already tough enough. football is supposed to be an addition of happiness to your life, not another stress/bummer.

          Don’t need it. Dealt with it for 10 years now. Will always be a bears fan, just choosing to do better things with my time now. Will probably come here less too sadly.

          • Doc Nitty

            This

      • Bender McLugh

        Come on maings maings, you’ll snap out of it. We can still be pissed about paying up the D studs

        • Bender McLugh

          passing up

  • leftcoast dave

    Ok, I get it now. The kid was a late bloomer who could put down the rock on an ally-oop, cover a guard or a center and play physical in the paint. Decided to put on 75 lbs and turned heads at the combine. Check it out.
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2702010-adam-shaheen-the-nfl-drafts-most-mysterious-man

    • Irish Sweetness

      Could we have drafted him in the sixth? Division what-now? He’s a fat bastard too.

      Addicted to Burritos. Great.

      I don’t think this guy will be catching a lot of passes. Pace sees a road-grader.

      • leftcoast dave

        Fat? You need to check them glasses. Some were saying second round possibility and we were not the only team scouting him.

      • Ososfan

        Lmao. He was 6′ 4″ 200lbs Wet when he first got there, maybe D2 schools can’t really afford the best type of nutritionists and meal coaches or what-not. Wait, is that even a thing in theorist place in college?

  • CanadaBear

    This made me laugh. I’m reading NFL.com site assigning grades for each team for each rd. BerB is always talking about how the Fudge get great publicity no matter what. Case in pt, GB rd 1 grade A (they traded out of the first rd), Rd 2 A, Rd 3 A. Of course, the Bears got C’s (on the curve they would probably be F’s.

    • Bender McLugh

      Walter Football was worse, gave Fs. Fuck that site, done with them.

      • CanadaBear

        I really don’t care because it’s ridiculous to grade this stuff immediately. It just made me laugh that GB got an A for trading out of the 1st rd. If the Trubisky pans out the draft is an A for me no matter what the other picks do. If he doesn’t pan out … FUCK!

        • Ososfan

          The thing going for Pace right now is that he aggressively tried trading for Mariota and Wentz and those dudes seem prettyy good so far. If Trub becomes elite, we will forver blast all the motherfucking analysts for being cunts!

          • CanadaBear

            Yes, yes we will!

      • Ososfan

        Walter football sucks! Always!

    • to be fair, I absolutely hate that Kevin King went to GB. Kid is a baller.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Hit mute, first”.

    Definitely.

    • CanadaBear

      Almost always for us more (ahem) mature fans.

      • Ososfan

        Y’all are just old-school OG’s! I like hip-hop a lot but the music as of late is trash!

    • Ososfan

      Hahaha

  • willbest

    “I get the feeling Trubisky is going to make it very hard for the Bears
    to keep him off the field this season. This kid is football only.” – Jeff

    Fortunately we have John Fox who doesn’t like to play his talented rookies like Howard let alone ones that aren’t done cooking yet.

    • Ososfan

      Best comment in the blog!

  • Ososfan

    A bit of a reach? Maybe, but, I.LOVE.THIS.PICK! Bear Down, brothas!

    • willbest

      And when he is playing against players that are 1/3rd of a second faster, while being 25 pounds heavier?

      • Irish Sweetness

        He’ll outweigh the linebackers he’s blocking on sweeps etc. Pace probably sees a lineman.

        • leftcoast dave

          Might need to learn a few things there on lowering his pads on the next level which will be a HUGE jump when you start talking about NFL backers.

      • Ososfan

        He has natural strength, best for this crop of TE’s and can definitely get faster after dropping some pounds with our ALL-WORLD nutritionist. Check her out she’s been a nutritionist for the USA Olympics teams for a while.

        • leftcoast dave

          Dude was a very good basketball player with good hands, feet and quickness who bulked up. He said he could go down a few pounds if asked and is rated as a top notch pass receiver for having a Y frame. Sims is deemed a better blocker even though lighter. Will be great to see how this kid develops.

          • Ososfan

            Yuuuup! You don’t gotta convince me, Dave. I love this pick! Lol

      • Johnnywad

        He’s bigger than all the other tight ends in the draft and plenty fast.

        • Ososfan

          And the strongest out of all of them I believe…

          • leftcoast dave

            “I did 24 reps, but that’s after they took 3 away.”

            Love it.

          • willbest

            According to MB, anybody that can’t do 50 shouldn’t even be in the NFL. Which is about how I feel about basketball and free throws. Like why isn’t the league average on those 95%

          • CanadaBear

            The all-time record at the combine is Paea at 49. Gotta say that when some of those CB’s put up about 6-7 reps I wonder what they’ve been doing in the weight room. Having said that, I’m guessing I would put up less that that. Never could bench worth a crap.

          • willbest

            You have to train reps, because its a different group of muscles. So if all they are concerned with is adding strength then they would never go about 8 reps anyway.

          • CanadaBear

            But if they are only doing 8 reps they should be close their max. I doubt 225 is a max for most of them (other than QB’s, CB’s, K/P). I do just the opposite. Low weights and lots of reps. My body’s joints thank me for that.

          • Max Calculator

            8 reps at 225 lbs = max of 285 lbs.

          • Get over yourself

            “Different group of muscles”? Uhh, no. It’s the same muscles. It’s not even a “different group of fibers,” because it’s all fast-twitch, even if you’re talking about doing 40 reps, because you’re talking about a weight equal to or close to body weight — so it’s still engaging those fast-twitch fibers.

          • willbest

            fibers is the word I was looking for and it is engaging all of it. If you are really making the argument that a 225lb guy uses different fibers from a 185lb guy and a 275lb guy when moving a 225lb bar for more than 8-10 reps, I would love to see research on it.

          • SC Dave

            fatigue

  • Irish Sweetness

    Like the sound of Mike’s Guy Desmond King. Sounds like a good nickle.

    From NFL.COM:

    Strengths

    Four-year starter and ultimate iron man.
    Played in more than 94 percent of Iowa’s defensive snaps over his four
    years and took 46 percent of the special teams snaps in 2016. Football
    instincts are off the charts.
    Focused quarterback reader who overlaps
    into other coverage areas to go make a play on the ball. Pattern reader
    with anticipation to keep him ahead of the route. Creates unique angles
    to throws, allowing for top-ball production. Obsessed with getting the
    ball; nabbed 14 interceptions in college and 29 in high school. Has
    ball-tracking, hands and high-point talent of a wideout. Stocky frame
    with physical play demeanor. Good press strength. Rough on slot
    receivers who can’t make a quick get-away off the line. Viable option as
    both punt and kick returner. Not overly physical as tackler but tends
    to finish.

    Weaknesses

    Lacks long speed and height associated with
    bump and run cornerbacks. Struggles to carry receivers down the field.
    Can be mismatched by legitimate speed merchants. Grinder who lacks
    mirror-and-match fluidity and foot quickness. Relies on hands usage and
    grabbing over footwork to transition and match on intermediate routes.
    In press, can get behind when facing off against slick releases from
    slot weapons. Lacks recovery speed to consistently close open throwing
    windows on NFL level. Penalized 11 times, including five personal fouls,
    over final two seasons. Needs to show more explosion into tackles and
    improve wrap-up technique.

    • I’ve seen a bunch of comparisons of him to Micah Hyde. Seems like a solid pick in round 4.

      • leftcoast dave

        Nice to see you guys taking interest in my Hawkeye draft calls! 9ers got C.J. Beathard, wonder who will take George Kittle or Jaleel Johnson.

        • Ososfan

          Noooooooo. When?! Damn it! Beathard would have been a legit trade asset in a couple of years

          • Irish Sweetness

            Niners got him with a 3rd round compensatory pick.

          • Ososfan

            That’s deff a Shanny pick.

        • SC Dave

          i cant read that without seeing Beat hard.

    • Ososfan

      Holy crap he still available?! Nice!

  • Ososfan

    Of course the patriots have to draft my second favorite OLB! SMH! Derek Rivers will prob be DROY.

  • Irish Sweetness

    David Jones. FS. 6’3, 210.

    Weakness? He needs to get bigger!

    Strengths

    Intelligent player. Late-bloomer who has
    added relatively sudden mass to his frame and might be able to carry more. Made play after play on the ball his junior season. Has quality ball tracking skills. Able to make early adjustments to put himself in position to make the interception. Possesses soft hands and plus body control and does a good job of challenging at the high-point. Long strides can eat up turf when make-up speed is needed. Has combination of range and instincts to handle single-high safety duties. Allows quarterback’s eyes to help him shade his coverage. Does his part in run support when it’s time to step in and strike. More wrap-up tackler than shoulder striker.

    Weaknesses

    Durability is a serious concern for scouts. Has had multiple injuries to the same left forearm that has caused him to miss time. Angular frame needs more muscle to improve play strength.
    Needs to improve at taking on or slipping blocks. Will hit and slide off of tackles at times. Comes downhill at inconsistent angles and can run himself out of position. Long strider in controlled spaces. More fast than quick and can be a little slow to flip hips and accelerate. Too much gliding in space rather than hitting the jets in pursuit or in coverage. Play-action can draw him out of position.

    • Ososfan

      We have arguably top 5 secondary coaches in the NFL, if coaching is what he needs,then he’s definitely a steal if we take him…

  • Irish Sweetness

    Safety – Josh Harvey-Clemons – 6’4 , 217lbs

    Okay, he was kicked out of Georgia for weed. The crime that’s not a crime. He’s a toker, he’s a Blunts-man, a chiba-king … and he needs bigger legs.

    Analysis

    Strengths Rangy, long frame with exceptionally long limbs. Arm length is what offensive line coaches look for in a tackle. Plays the game with edge and embraces physical requirement of the
    position. First responder who races downhill into the action. Rarely taps the brakes into his tackles. Square-up, wrap-up finisher. Took on blocks with aggressiveness and leverage when asked to play inside linebacker. His long arms help cast wide net as tackler. Rare athleticism for his size. Flips hips for instant change of direction as tackler or in coverage. Excellent range as a tackler. Plays faster than
    his timed speed. Communicative on the field. Balances attention between quarterback’s eyes and assignments around him as two-deep safety. Quick to find coverage work after diagnosing play-action from the box. Adjusts coverage responsibilities based on scrambling direction of quarterback.

    Weaknesses

    Skinny legs. Needs more discipline in playing with inside-out leverage in run support. Downhill GPS to running backs needs fine tuning. Tends to attack at angles under running back, forcing too many diving attempts on perimeter. Can be a little slow hustling back to high safety spot from disguised coverages. Deshaun Watson picked on him in coverage. From single-high position, needs anticipation and earlier response to throws. Will lose sight of deep responsibilities as high safety at times. Panics and grabs when he fears he’s beaten. Needs to trust his length and recover speed more often. Dismissed from Georgia after three strikes, including failed marijuana tests.

    Draft Projection Round 6-7

    Sources Tell Us “I love the athlete and the toughness, but he’s a multiple-time (drug) tester on the college level. Those guys have a high rate of testing positive again. I need to do more background
    work on him but I really worry about suspensions for him.” — AFC North area scout

    NFL Comparison Kam Chancellor

    Bottom Line Former five-star recruit with an alpha mentality who roams the field with swagger and undeniable intent as a tackler. Has elite size, length and athletic traits, and is a rangy
    tackler with the ability to cover and blitz. He could be considered by teams as a box safety or hybrid linebacker.

    • Bender McLugh

      Think Bears will look past the failed tests? I can’t remember the. Doing that for a potential draftee

      • Irish Sweetness

        That hasn’t worked out for us so well over 30 years.

      • Ososfan

        Doubt it, Virginia won’t be too happy.

        • Irish Sweetness

          She needs to .. .eh ….. y’know ….

          • BearDown100393

            Go the way of Dollar Bill

          • CanadaBear

            Nice!

          • BearDown100393

            It’s true

          • CanadaBear

            I agree. I thought it was a nice way to put it. I try not to be too disrespectful of Virginia or George. At least I know they care. Mikey on the other hand …

          • BearDown100393

            Care but incompetent.

          • leftcoast dave

            The whole reefer thing is going to change. Shit’s a great analgesic (ask Jimbo Mac) and don’t f up your liver like the stuff from big pharma, even just aspirin. With decrim and even legalization it has to change, not that I advocate its use by stoopid kids getting stoopider, but it is better for pain relief than pharma.

          • BearDown100393

            Congress needs to smoke more

          • CanadaBear

            It absolutely helps with my arthritis. Granted I like the buzz too but the worst after effect is being a little fuzzy in the morning. Like you say, that beats the shit out of big pharma.

          • BearDown100393

            Tell it to Roger. He’s the one still fixated on anti-weed black and white reels from the 40s.

          • CanadaBear

            The weird part up here in Canada is they are really struggling with the edibles. They tried to make it OK to smoke but no edibles. It’s the edibles that help the most with my arthritis and almost everyone else I talk to that uses it for pain relief says the same thing. Crazy, mixed up world!

          • willbest

            Probably because when you smoke it you have to live with the stigma of smelling like ass.

            It could also be for the kids. You don’t want them accidentally eating it.

          • CanadaBear

            I think most of us can live with the stigma. Packaging clearly states what the product is and how strong. Along with all the warnings. I know a lot of parents are horrible but at some point don’t they have to take some responsibility to keep it out of the kids hands? I think most of the pols don’t have any experience with edibles and don’t have a clue how to deal with it. It’s going to be interesting next year. Where I live the RCMP have given up and I can go into a dispensary and get almost anything marijuana related. The further East you go in Canada the more hard ass they are about it. That starts in Alberta.

          • leftcoast dave

            Make ghee and infuse it for your chocolate cookies!

          • CanadaBear

            As soon as it’s legal up here (next year) I’m getting one of these. https://magicalbutter.com/

            My buddy has one and swears by it. We will legally be able to grow 4 plants so that should go a long way.

          • BearDown100393

            Poutine weed?

          • CanadaBear

            I haven’t seen that strain yet but never say never. Might be a bitch to keep lit. The dispensary I use has about 30 different strains. Sorted by Sativa, Indica or hybrid. Plus hashish, shatter, edibles, oils, tinctures, etc.

          • Ososfan

            Savage. Lol

  • willbest

    “If you’re going to root against the franchise QB…WHY DO YOU BOTHER BEING A FAN??” – Jeff

    Where is he that he is so angry.

    • willbest

      I might point out there is a difference between believing that Trub won’t be able to elevate his game, and hoping he doesn’t. The former is based on a number of rational factors. The later is being done out of spite.

      • CanadaBear

        I’ve maintained for decades that Chicago has some of the dumbest fans in the NFL. I came to that conclusion back in the 70’s after going to a few games. There were about 10,000 Flounders (fat, drunk and stupid) there each game.

        • Bender McLugh

          GO BEARS!

          • CanadaBear

            You know what I mean Bender. If you’ve been to Soldier Field you’ve seen these idiots.

          • Bender McLugh

            Absolutely, was ahreeing

          • CanadaBear

            Gotta admit your reply made me laugh like hell.

        • Ososfan

          I’ve seen that first hand too. Met a couple of Damn pilots who actually flew the team and were considered “fans” who didn’t know Jack shot. smh!

    • Bender McLugh

      It’s all of the negativity from the peanut gallery, I don’t blame him.

      • BearDown100393

        The customers

        • Bender McLugh

          NTTAWWT

          • BearDown100393

            Pace is lucky he isn’t ruining the Eagles instead

          • willbest

            Pace is lucky the draft wasn’t being held in Chicago this year

    • Ososfan

      Lmao. Probably read our day 1 comments.

      • BearDown100393

        Drunk reading

      • willbest

        But nobody around here hopes Trubisky fails. And half the people that hated the move don’t even think he will necessarily fail. They just don’t believe he will be the Aaron Rodgers that can carry a shit D into the playoffs every season and therefore draft capital would be better spent not having a shit D.

        • leftcoast dave

          Agree, but I think the reality was first, he made up his mind to do it, period end of story and second, it turns out to be the best decision because of the options. Trading down was not an option and the BPA’s were not valued as high as getting the franchise QB, which were also likely his marching orders.

        • BearDown100393

          It really ain’t about the kid at all. It is how he arrived in town served on a garbage can lid courtesy of Pace.

          • CanadaBear

            I’m not getting your point.

          • BearDown100393

            What was given up to draft him. And trotted out for show and tell at a Bulls blowout was not a good idea either.

          • CanadaBear

            OK. I hated what they had to give up (or got fleeced) but if he pans out we’ll all be happy campers. Still don’t get booing the kid.

          • BearDown100393

            Rolling the dice was a bad idea with that crowd. Should have formally introduced him in a press conference first. The front office tone deafness is absurd.

        • Ososfan

          If you hope one of our NOW own players fails, you’re not a real fan. imo.

          • BearDown100393

            It isn’t about Trubisky for 99%.

    • BearDown100393

      The base not drinking the kool-aide is growing

  • Irish Sweetness

    A 6’3 220lb Corner! Need to draft in 7th and stash (ACL).

    Jeremy Clark Analysis

    Strengths

    Exciting size and length outside. Is an imposing figure in press coverage. Maximizes arm length when attacking passing lanes. Ball skills are solid. Athletic enough to play in multiple coverages. Displays necessary timing for high-point disruption even in a retreat. Able to maintain his feel for route down the field. Has a make-up gear when beaten and can close out separation distance. Looks to run through the receiver and deliver some thump after the catch. Heads up tackler looks to attack the legs and wrap-up. Has potential to challenge for a role as gunner or jammer on special teams.

    Weaknesses

    Leggy transitions can put him behind when forced to open and run. Tends to bend at the waist and lean into receivers when matching their release. Lacks fluidity to recover quickly when beaten by route fakes. Will struggle to stick with complex routes. Doesn’t always play to his size. Slow to disengage from perimeter blocks. Too passive on the perimeter and needs an angrier heart against the run. Needs to improve his lower body strength. Season-ending ACL tear will likely prevent him from running and proving his speed pre-draft.

    Bottom Line
    Because Clark’s recovery from an ACL tear makes it unlikely he’ll be able to run pre-draft, teams may be hesitant to consider him as anything other than an undrafted free agent. However, the tape shows decent makeup speed to go along with his extreme length. Clark could challenge for a roster spot with teams looking for bump-and-run corners with an ability to operate on special teams.

    • leftcoast dave

      Irish, I like your thinking, but for one thing. Deondre Hall is that dude you are targeting with the length and ball hawking ability. I’d rather see a bulldog SS chosen and BPA CB for the secondary. That and OT (still) and a bulldog ILB.

      • Irish Sweetness

        He’s got to be in the project barrel though. No harm in having depth either. Need that for a lombardi.

        • leftcoast dave

          Competition. But would love to see a SS/ILB tweener there to crush.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Yes, it must come in 4.

            Redemption, Ryan.

          • CanadaBear

            Let’s hope!

  • Ososfan

    Carl Lawson is still available?! Wow

  • Irish Sweetness

    Boys.

    With the other fourth pick … oh yes …

    Samaje Perine, RB, averages 6.0 YPC. 5’11, 233. North south.

    The dude that had 427 yards and five touchdowns against Kansas.

    • willbest

      I would be surprised if Pace drafts an RB. Then again I was surprised he moved up to draft a QB, and moved down to draft a TE

      • BearDown100393

        He’ll trade Howard to move up one spot and draft a RB from Pop Warner.

      • Ososfan

        Pace like that RB from BYU apparently…supposedly..

      • Malice Halice

        Pace should get a big body WR or a rb wit hands

        • 505Bears

          There’s a lot he should have done, but what numbnuts actually does is different

          • Malice Halice

            That’s what makes the pill even harder to swallow. It’s like if u was focused on the O muhfucka u could’ve did better. This FA, n draft. Muhfuck

          • Malice Halice

            – wanted trub so we should’ve got d.jack or sumn not wheaton n da other guy

  • BearDown100393

    “If you’re going to root against the franchise QB..”

    If the franchise QB isn’t the starting QB, is the franchise QB really truly the franchise QB?

    How quickly a giraffe is forgotten in the forest of confusion.

    If you are going to pander toward stupidity and non-logic, does that make you a superior fan?

    Tough questions.

    • Ososfan

      When I wasn’t really into football, I still seem to remember that QB’s were drafted round 1 all the time and given time to mature and learn the game for a bit be for getting the keys.

      • BearDown100393

        Ah but does that make’em “franchise” simple being #1s? In my books, that is earned on a NFL field, not a draft board.

    • SC Dave

      nice metaphor

  • leftcoast dave

    There goes my second Hawkeye pick!

    • 505Bears

      Urkel?

  • 505Bears

    Let’s see how Pace jacks up today

  • Malice Halice

    We need to start looking in da mirror here. Y would we expect Pace going young for Defense when his last job was with the saints? There all O. I’m sure his track record of drafting offense has to be outstanding right? Saints score 24+ like it ain’t shit for long long time. I didn’t see trub coming but after that I knew was sticking to O.

    • Ososfan

      Bruh, we got Floyd, Bullard, Kwiat, Hall, Bush, and that dude from William and Mary. Mostly D picks last years. Let’s see what they can do first…

      • Malice Halice

        Ok then, so you expect Jamal adams n Solomon if we ALREADY got projects in da backfield?

        • Ososfan

          Legit wanted either of those guys but, what’s done is done…. Let’s root for our own now…

          • SC Dave

            fucking this

    • willbest

      He probably figures the D isn’t as dogshit as it ought to be with something like 7 starters on IR. Plus he added 3 vets in the secondary, and its too early to give up on ALL the rooks he threw at the wall last year.

      Right now we just don’t agree with it. I can admit I am wrong though. I hated giving up Jihad Ward to move back and get Whitehair. I am cool with finding a franchise center in the 2nd round and picking up lotto tickets in retrospect. Now Trub is different since he won’t hit the field until 2018 (hopefully) and I think that is where I lot of the frustration comes from. We aren’t trying to put the best 2017 product we could have on the field.

  • leftcoast dave

    Roderick Johnson, OT, Florida State — Johnson has great
    length at 6-7, 298 pounds and has the frame teams want in a
    prototypical tackle. He needs to bend better and play with more balance,
    but if he can shore up his fundamentals, Johnson can be one team’s
    blindside blocker for years to come.

  • Ron Swanson’s Mustache

    Bears traded up.

    • leftcoast dave

      Three fours now. What, does Pace not want to work late on any of these days?

    • willbest

      Theres our safety

  • willbest

    Eddie Jackson Bama

  • Irish Sweetness

    Overview

    Jackson had a chance to leave for the NFL after an outstanding
    junior season in 2015, where he was a first-team All-SEC and third-team
    AP All-American selection (six interceptions, scoring on two). He
    decided to return, however, to help his team win back-to-back national
    championships. Unfortunately, he suffered a broken leg while returning a
    punt in the season’s eighth game, ending his college career. Before
    that occurred, he had two punt returns for touchdowns in 2016 and
    secured second-team all-conference honors from league coaches with an
    interception and two pass break-ups. Jackson began his career in
    Tuscaloosa as a cornerback, starting four games as a freshman (20
    tackles, one interception, two pass breakups). He tore his right ACL in
    spring 2014 practices, but still returned to start 10 games at corner in
    2014 (41 tackles, two for loss, one INT, six PBU, two forced fumbles).

    Analysis

    Strengths Has solid athleticism for the safety spot.
    Not a speed merchant but has the instincts and range to play over the
    top. Gets secondary lined up. Can cover tight ends and the occasional
    slot receiver. Former cornerback who played wide receiver in high
    school. Has the tracking, timing and hands to take the ball away when he
    gets his shot. Offers roster versatility. Returned two punts for
    touchdowns this season and has three career defensive touchdowns.
    Background as a returner makes him more dangerous than your average
    safety after an interception.

    Weaknesses Long, but lanky and not built for a physical
    pounding. Grab and drag tackler. Will do what he has to against the
    run, but he’s not going to be a tone-setter with his hitting. Dominant
    defensive front made his job in coverage much easier. Had some easy,
    no-brainer interceptions float his way on overthrows. Can get too cute
    trying to stay glued to the quarterback’s eyes rather than triggering
    towards his boundary help over the top. Will occasionally lose track of
    his deep ball responsibility. Has had two major injuries in his career
    that will draw plenty of attention at the combine.

    Draft Projection Round 4-5

    Sources Tell Us “He had like 10 first-rounders in front
    of him and lockdown corners who almost never needed help. He got to sit
    back and cherry-pick overthrows. That’s great work if you can get it.” –
    NFC South scout

    Bottom Line Former cornerback-turned-safety with decent
    instincts and good ball skills but a finesse mentality as a tackler
    relative to those around him. Jackson’s background in man coverage and
    his ability to return punts should create some additional value for him,
    but he’ll be pressed into much more difficult situations in the league.
    Jackson is an average NFL backup with immediate punt return
    possibilities.

    • CanadaBear

      Sounds like Amos with better hands and is a returner.

  • 505Bears

    I like it. Played at a big program against good competition.

    • willbest

      Always have to wonder with bama if it is the player of the fact that its an elite program with lots of good players

      • Irish Sweetness

        Sources Tell Us “He had like 10 first-rounders in front
        of him and lockdown corners who almost never needed help. He got to sit
        back and cherry-pick overthrows. That’s great work if you can get it.” –
        NFC South scout

        • leftcoast dave

          Irish, I’m saying how he grows. Can return punts now, possible FS but much shorter height and arms than Deondre. I like him, here are the negatives:

          Biggest concern:

          Poor tackler, often out of control or goes too high on players and
          does not have the strength to bring them down with bad technique. Has
          missed 16 of 122 attempts over the last three years.

          Shy hitter; doesn’t seem to want to stick his nose in on a hit unless he has to.

          Slight frame and will be pushed around and sealed off in the box;
          seems to be just a FS fit who can occasionally play man against lesser
          options.

          Doesn’t seem to read QB when in deep zone, will wait for receiver to
          make his break instead of reading the QB at the top of his dropback.

          Instincts at safety need work; clearly still adapting to playing in space, and needs to improve his angles.

          • Irish Sweetness

            There were two 6’3 and 6’4 enforcers who bring a physical element this guy never will.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Weird. You’ve got Amos/Demps/ HAll .. why this guy? What does he bring to the table? We could have drafted a freak, someone who brings something new you need.

            This schmuck.

            Could have drafted Perrine in that case, then get your safety. Fuck.

          • SC Dave

            kick returns

    • leftcoast dave

      I like him to. “Lanky” at 6′ 201. Put on another 20 -30 lbs and can be that bulldog SS.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Amos and Demps are SS.

  • Cubsnlinux

    The guy who just announced the WAS #114 pick thinks we are still in the year 217. No wonder he roots for a team named the “Redskins”

    • Irish Sweetness

      We could have drafted him. Jordan 2.0 I don’t get this safety we drafted.

      I don’t see it.

      And he traded UP for him?? Who was drafting this bum?

      • Cubsnlinux

        May be Pace was set on defense and secondary? Should explain the trade up. The next pick this round should clear up things a bit.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Why this kid?

          • Malice Halice

            His film don’t look bad.

          • Cubsnlinux

            Don’t know much other than the program.

          • willbest

            why the tight end?

          • Cubsnlinux

            High ceiling, position of need, set on offense?

          • willbest

            I was just saying as opposed to everything else. I would assume Vic likes this safety or we wouldn’t be drafting him.

          • Malice Halice

            He HAD to give vic atleast 1 guy.

          • Cubsnlinux

            Need to keep our next interim HC happy 😉

          • Irish Sweetness

            Fuck that.

            World’s worst defense and we give him the top job?

          • Irish Sweetness

            He’s the first kaboose I’d kick out of Halas.

            Vic.

          • willbest

            Yes, and I think he is the only one worth keeping.

          • Irish Sweetness

            No Balls.

            Least pressuring defense over two seasons.

            Be gone.

          • CanadaBear

            You’ve never mentioned that before.

          • willbest

            Yeah other than the players on our defense aren’t noticeably better than they were under the Trestman era and yet its a middling defense rather than the worst in the league.

            Come on man. And every time he blitz he exposed our shitty ass secondary to a big play.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            we were 12th in sacks last year…

          • Irish Sweetness

            Position of need absolutely, but why not one of the monsters? There’s two guys there that could be Kam Chancellor.

            What does this guy do? When does he start?

  • Ososfan

    Scratching my head with this S pick. But whateves.

    • Irish Sweetness

      He even fucked up the safety pick.

      • BearDown100393

        Showing consistency

  • BerwynBomber

    Jackson is a very good pick. I tipped the blog a few times during the season about him. But for his injury he would have been a R1-caliber safety.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Pfft!

      He’s a good pick when he’s starting free safety and playing with balls.

    • CanadaBear

      Did you see him play a few times?

      • BerwynBomber

        Yes and also heard that he had really been the leader of ‘bama’s D the last two years. Unfortunately, he went down very early in his senior year.’

        Thing was, had he come out early (last year) he was pretty much a consensus first round guy.

        P.S. the odds on 4R picks aren’t good but I’m fine with the slight gamble on him here. Potentially excellent value this late in the draft.

    • Joecashflow

      Ok I’m going to try and not be a negative Nancy as much but Jackson coming off a broken LEG? We have any experience in that ? Maybe stay away from risk? Nope, every pick is high risk. Ok I feel better. ,

      • BerwynBomber

        But it’s fourth round. Not a top 10 pick in the draft.

        • Joecashflow

          What can I say, but there is a history of injury. I recall emery drafted a CB that sat out his entire senior year with a broken something and never made it on the field for,more than a few plays. As snake bit as the Bears have been by injury, you stay the fuck away from risk.

          • Ososfan

            Hardin. Then they converted him to Safety and he ends up breaking his brain in a fucking pre-season game. Smh

      • BearDown100393

        At least he didn’t lose it altogether. If he had, probably a first rounder.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Man, that Eagles announcer was over-served.

  • Cubsnlinux

    Oh my, Bears draft a RB with #119.

    • willbest

      Irish should have his profile up. He scouts all the RBs

      • Irish Sweetness

        Just checked him out an hour ago and dismissed immediately. FML. He’s a midget.

        Imagine Garret Wolfe with ALS.

        • KentuckyBearsFan

          Sproles was a midget and could get yards. 5’6”, 190 pounds.

          (Wolfe, not so much)

          Emmitt Smith was 5’9”, 216 pounds.

          Tarik Cohen is 5’6”, 179 pounds.

          Kickoff/Punt returner?

        • BearDown100393

          Damn Lou Gehrig’s Disease?

        • CanadaBear

          And I’m the bad guy for calling Fales a stiff?

          • BearDown100393

            HOFer

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      from North Carolina AT&T or something.

      (looking it up)

      Apparently that’s in Greensboro.

      • BearDown100393

        Online College?

        • KentuckyBearsFan

          I would think Offline College.

          (can’t afford a connection)

  • willbest

    North Carolina A&T? I love when I learn the name of a new college

    • Joecashflow

      We’re learning quite a few, huh !

    • Joecashflow

      Also getting pretty good with the word fibula.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Tarik Cohen is 5’6. He does not weigh 180lbs wet. Jesus Christ on a bike.

    Is this a joke? Is Pace on Autopick?

    We could have drafted the kid that ran for 450 yards and 5 TDs in a game, and drafted one of the Kam Chancellor’s. Fuck.

    And we could have drafted a QB without giving up a second rounder in value.

    • willbest

      Sounds like Pace wants a 3rd down back

      • CanadaBear

        Garrett Wolfe!

  • leftcoast dave

    Barry Sanders!!!

    • Irish Sweetness

      Barry Sanders aged 7 maybe.

  • 505Bears

    Lil darren sproles jr

    • willbest

      Makes sense considering Howards lack of pass catching ability.

  • 505Bears

    Another pool jumper?

    • leftcoast dave

      Standing back flip!

  • leftcoast dave

    Damn, the talkin heads are giving us some love.

    • willbest

      They like this pick? wow

      • BearDown100393

        Gotta say something nice at least once.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Midget.

    • BearDown100393

      Little people

      • CanadaBear

        Big Mike referred to me the other day as Fun Size. It made me laugh.

        • Ososfan

          How tall are you Canada? Lol

          • CanadaBear

            5’2″. I’ve lost an inch in the last few years.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Overview

    While only a bit over 5-foot-6 and 175 pounds, Cohen was one
    of the most productive running backs at the FCS level the past four
    seasons. The MEAC’s all-time leading rusher (5,619 yards) and first
    three-time conference Offensive Player of the Year was an All-American
    in 2016, setting a school record with 1,588 yards and 19 touchdowns on
    212 carries (37-339, one TD receiving). Cohen was a third-team
    All-American as a junior (264-1,543, 15 TD rushing; 25-217 receiving)
    and led the MEAC in scoring as well as rushing in 2014 (197-1,340, 15 TD
    rushing; 25-237, one TD receiving). Though he started only six games as
    a freshman, Cohen managed to run for 1,148 yards and eight scores on
    195 attempts (11-152, one TD receiving).

    Analysis

    Strengths Nicknamed “The Human Joystick” for his
    ability to make seemingly impossible cuts. Plays with unpredictable
    movements. Can turn any play into a random game of “connect the dots.”
    Rare ability to stop and start. Cuts are just as seamless and sharp from
    any direction. Field vision is excellent. Has lateral escapability to
    put would-be tacklers on his highlight tapes. Gifted with unusually
    large hands and a powerful lower body that enhances his contact balance
    and ability to drive for extra yardage. Very good acceleration pulls him
    away from tacklers and into the clear. Relentless competitor. Had four
    touchdown runs of 83-plus yards this season. A true weapon out of the
    backfield that will be tough to matchup with. Has good hands and is very
    slippery in space.

    Weaknesses Falls below the size standards expected from
    the position. Overwhelmed slower and less talented competition.
    Benefitted from heinous angles to the ball from tacklers he faced. Way
    too eager to take plays off script. Wants to swing for the fences on
    every snap and will have to learn when to hit singles. Too eager to
    bounce everything. Takes his share of negative yardage carries. Feet are
    electric, but footwork and run track on zone plays needs work. Takes
    big hits from big men when trying to fight out of tackles and squeeze
    out extra yards. Stature and short arms make him a tougher target for
    quarterbacks. Has almost no experience as a punt or kick returner on
    special teams.

    • BearDown100393

      The Human Joystick?

      • CanadaBear

        You say that like it’s a bad thing.

        • BearDown100393

          Not sure what kinda thing that is

    • SC Dave

      four runs over 83 yards…. nice

  • willbest

    Wait what? we don’t have any 6 rounders anymore?

    • BearDown100393

      Some kid who looked up to Braverman is now disappointed.

  • BearDown100393

    Just let the kid announcers pick a remaining name out of a fish bowl. Might do better.

  • willbest

    We only have 1 more pick at the top of the 5th left it looks like

    • Irish Sweetness

      So disappointing.

    • Ososfan

      Disappointing.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Pooched both picks. Completely. A bum and a midget.

    Perrine and David Jones anyone?

    • BerwynBomber

      Perrine was off the board. He was picked prior to Cohen.

      • Most of the guys I respect who know more about this than me wanted Marlon Mack instead. Not as fast, but a similar 3rd down RB type player who’s about 40 pounds heavier.

      • Irish Sweetness

        We had a pick before that. First one, he was drafted directly after our pick.

  • BerwynBomber

    Cohen’s a trip. A Sproles-like dude (though not as thick). I caught him an HBCU game at the end of this past season. In fact, may have been the HBCU championship. The other team had no answer for him. He was unstoppable.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I’ll play nutcracker with Cohen V Perrine. 176 v 233.

      A bag of sand on Perrine.

      • BerwynBomber

        I hear ya there. Don’t know why Perrine dropped so far. Then again, from the Bears perspective they already have Perrine in JH.

    • CanadaBear

      I remain a little dubious for obvious reasons but I know those type of players scare the crap out of opposing D’s because they can’t find them immediately. The thought of him pulling away from a hapless LB makes me smile. Who knows? Either Pace is a genius or crazy. Maybe a little of both. Knocking on wood but still a little stunned. Esp to only have 1 pick left. Not a biggie but it is kinda shocking. Oh well. More time to bone up on the possible undrafted players.

  • Joecashflow

    Is the draft supposed to imitate SNL, because this shit is getting to be funny! Auto draft !

    • BearDown100393

      Alec Baldwin impersonating Pace?

  • Ososfan

    Most deff not a fan of these picks. Smh. Done. We have NO OLB help or LB help. I’m confused af right now. Did Emery hijack the picks!?

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      Free agency? Do the Bears have any money left to spend after having to pay 2 quaterbacks?

      • CanadaBear
        • BearDown100393

          That belongs to Mitch Unrein.

          • Ososfan

            I forgot Unrein is still with us. Smh. I legit, on a wheelchair have more talent than Unrein.

          • BearDown100393

            You might get an invite to camp. Keep the phone on.

          • Ososfan

            Haha haha!

          • CanadaBear

            As a FB on a goal line run, I’m going with Unrein. Otherwise, I’m torn.

    • BearDown100393

      Touching tribute to Phil Emery.

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog Sincerely hope @Mtrubisky10 knows those boos last night were bullshit & 99.9% of Bears fans are pumped to see him in navy and orange.”

    Oh please. Over 2/3 of Bears fans hated the pick. And a Bulls game –just like Hawks, Cub and White Sox game — is a good, representative sample size of Bears fans.

    Bottom line, fans can be idiots. Including ours. But let’s not try to disavow the worst of our behavior with some 99.9% nonsense.

    • BearDown100393

      Drunk tweeting

      • leftcoast dave

        Looking for more access from the team.

        • BearDown100393

          Scotch and trip to Virginia’s suite should do the trick.

          • leftcoast dave

            Audition with a back flip into a tongue stand?

          • BearDown100393

            The Terrible Ted

          • leftcoast dave

            Licking the eyebrows?

          • BearDown100393

            A brow

    • CanadaBear

      I hate they booed the kid and you know how I feel about some of the Bears fans. FFS they are the only fans in the league that don’t know enough to shut up when the Bears have the ball and are driving. I totally agree with ya about cross section of fans is legit.

      • BerwynBomber

        Exactly. Jeff talking out of both sides of his mouth on that one. As if those weren’t Bears fans.

        Btw, I’d bet Bulls fans are the most “well-behaved” of all our city’s fans. If Trubisky had been introduced at one of the other three, shit may have been thrown.

        • BearDown100393

          Not at a Hawks game.

          • BerwynBomber

            lol

      • Irish Sweetness

        Hand on my heart, I wish we had Watson. He’s been there and done it. He’s a winner. 32-3.

        Booing, though. Scumbags.

        But I’ll support Mitch until he shits the bed six games in a row. Support your Quarterback (with the proviso that if he’s Rex Grossman, you get to bitch).

  • Tortured Bear fan

    Looking a 5´ 6(1/2)´´ RB, give me hopes to…….. IDK!!!

    • Ososfan

      5’6″ with a bag of tricks

      • BearDown100393

        Knox had the same bag

  • Bender McLugh

    K & P returner, if he doesn’t break

  • Bender McLugh

    To no real D pickups this draft. So weird. Still happy with the TE & Trubs tho

    • BearDown100393

      The defense is just fine. Buddy Ryan perfect.

      • Bender McLugh

        Ugh.

  • I wanted them to get a pass-catching scatback to complement Howard. Dunno if this was the guy I would have chosen, but stylistically I like the fit.

    He never did much returning in college (1 punt return and 2 kick returns), but you have to think the Bears are envisioning trying him there.

    • BearDown100393

      Converting player positions for draft picks is a true strength of the Chicago Bears.

      • he would still be a RB, that’s not really a conversion.

    • Update: Cohen has some impressive passing stats in college. Threw a TD on 50% of his pass attempts, with more TDs (2) than incompletions (1).

      Cohen beats Trubisky and Glennon out for the starting QB job, I’m calling it now.

      • BearDown100393

        He might.

      • CanadaBear

        He will literally be throwing up.

      • Ososfan

        Will he even see the field? Our RB room is packed.

        • CanadaBear

          At least one of Carey, Langford or the new guy aren’t making the team. You know Pace’s draft pick will get plenty of leeway.

          • Ososfan

            Carey most likely. Probably ask Cunningham to play the FB role then?

          • willbest

            Which is a shame cause Carey is better than Langford

          • Malice Halice

            I think Carey is done. This Midget can run

          • CanadaBear

            I actually think it will be Langford. Fox has said he really likes Carey’s style (I do too. Not fast or elusive but he brings it). Langford, meh.

          • Malice Halice

            Langford also didn’t step up when needed. JH did. Bless his sould

          • Irish Sweetness

            We need him not.

          • Johnnywad

            Same. Langford flashed for a hot minute then flamed out.

          • SC Dave

            lowest yards after contact in the nfl

          • SC Dave

            Langford sux

          • SC Dave

            Langford is garbage as I’ve said from day one

        • They’re not cutting a 4th round pick. Have to think this means 1 of Langford and Carey are on the way out.

          Need one of those guys to be your RB1 in case Howard goes down. Cohen likely given every chance to be the complementary RB2 though.

          • Ososfan

            Langford was a 4th round pick! Lol oh, the irony.

          • willbest

            So was carey. And Wood is saying not cutting a rookie 4th round pick. In year 2 or 3, all bets are off. 2nd rounders get year 2, first rounders get year 3

      • Irish Sweetness

        He will remain a midget each year he is in the NFL. Not For Long.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Benny can do that. The can install Braverman that way too.

      • Braverman is not switching to RB. He’s probably not making the roster this year either.

        Cunningham is probably not sticking either. Textbook just a guy player. Pace obviously thinks Cohen can be a playmaker in a limited role.

    • SC Dave

      the cb is the return guy

      • I’d guess the RB gets a shot too.

        • willbest

          Didn’t we get a returner in FA. We brought back Thompson, though I questioned why. Now I doubt he makes the team.

  • Ososfan

    Bengals taking Carl Lawson hurts my soul. Watch that dude destroy us when we play the Bengals

    • BearDown100393

      Fill in the blank destroys the Bears

      • Irish Sweetness

        No ‘backers.

        Bulldog Turner. Bill George. Buffone. Butkus. Samurai. Otis. Wilbur. Lac.

        Men from that cloth are needed.

        They’re ignoring the legacy bestowed on them.

        They don’t get it. Pace doesn’t care – he’s an MBA type head.

        We’re the Chicago Bears. Where’s our defense?

        • SC Dave

          buffone, marshall and particularly wilson do not belong in that list.

          *maybe* fortunato does

  • The Eddie Jackson pick seems intriguing. His style of play (true coverage S) is what the Bears lack right now; outside of the recently converted Hall all of their safeties are more SS than ballhawking FS types.

    From what people are saying about him (I look at non-Bears fans for objectivity), he’s a really good player who happened to get hurt this year. Hopefully can stay healthy, though admittedly that never seems to work out for Chicago sports teams.

    • leftcoast dave

      I like Hall back there, but Pace seems to have stacked competition everywhere.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I suppose, yeah, we just cheer him on now at FS. Good luck to him. I thought he was a press corner, but whatever.

        Damn, Budda would have been a great nickel. Or Obi. Fuck.

        • BerwynBomber

          Boo him on the field if he sucks. Anywhere else is questionable/bush league. And that extends to all players. Not just QBs.

          All that said, welcome to CHI, Trubisky. Might be good for his skin.

          • BerwynBomber

            Ah shit, posted in the wrong spot. My bad.

    • BerwynBomber

      He arguably was a R1 talent if not for the injury or if he had forgone his senior year.

      I like the pick. Lots. Especially in the 4th round, which is long odds anyway.

  • leftcoast dave

    Looking at what happened in retrospect, I think Pace has decided he already has enough players under contract who will be competing for positions. His first pick obviously going for the best QB in the draft at all costs, not that the price was so high, given what was paid last year for Goff and Wentz. Then he picked the kid who could be the best steal in the draft if he “Gronk’s out” as he might. Add one versatile piece who can grow in many ways at S, get a water bug running back who could be electric and hopefully the last pick will be a big arsed project OT.

    Like I said after picking Trubinsky, Pace clearly thinks that the team is much further ahead than last year’s record would indicate. Bring the players back from the IR, consider all of the FA’s he picked up, both during and after the season and they will have plenty of competition and players to cut.

    • Look at what he did in FA. Filled all the most glaring holes (QB, 3rd down RB, CB, S, 3rd OT, WR) with bodies so he can just go for playmakers in the draft.

      Pretty much every pick so far is a swing for the fences type deal. He doesn’t want safe and solid, he wants gamebreakers.

      This draft could either end up as a home run or a huge bust pretty easily because every pick is risky but has a huge ceiling.

      • Ososfan

        Wood, please tell me you’ve noticed the fact that he did nothing for our OLB this year? Acho is just a body and cheese handy shown much either.

        • If Floyd takes the year 2 leap most are expecting and McPhee is back healthier, that’s probably the best position on the roster outside of interior OL.

          Obviously didn’t feel the need to address, though I’m sure he wouldn’t have been opposed to it if the opportunity presented itself.

          • CanadaBear

            Is McPhee healthier still a decent player? Hope so. Not really counting on it. I do like Floyd as long as he keeps his head up. With as much money as the Bears still have available I think Pace will sign a couple more FA’s at some point and use the balance to try to extend some contracts.

          • who’s still available in FA though? Nobody good is typically there for the getting this time of year. Maybe some decent depth guys who get cut after teams draft their replacement.

          • CanadaBear

            That and cap casualty guys. It used to be the June 1st cuts but I guess that isn’t relevant much these days.

          • BearDown100393

            Jay Cutler

          • Irish Sweetness

            It’s the guys that were available in the draft that annoys me, Woodsy.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Who’s there to go in though? Week one when he pulls/strains X. We don’t have killers for starters, forget depth.

            I’ll keep Floyd and maybe Freeman, but we can do better than him. Trevathan ain’t it. His hype was backed off Von Miller et al.

            We need backers or it’s all for shit.

            We’re the Chicago fucking Bears and this isn’t good enough, that’s what GSH would say if he saw this shit-show on defense. He’d kick Vic Fangio up the arse on his way out the door for the bullshit philosophy – if doing fuck-all is a philosophy – he “instills” in his guys. Least pressure two years in a row? Fuck that.

            Pansies.

            We’re the Chicago fucking Bears.

          • CanadaBear

            Not sure why you’re so lukewarm on Freeman. Other than the PED suspension, I thought he played really well. A pleasant surprise. He knew what he was doing. Trev was under whelming before the injury. Now, not counting on anything from him. Like you, I’m not all that high on Kwiat. Hope he takes a big step. Not sure who they might sign but Sitton fell into Pace’s lap so stranger things happen when money is involved. Who knows?

          • SC Dave

            freeman is the best defender we have.

            another irish fugue

        • Irish Sweetness

          Or ILB. Our LB corps sucks. Sorry, but it does.

          Some of us more grizzled in the face have seen decades of what good linebackers look like. I can’t see them here, outside of Leonard.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Who is our starting Free Safety? Bueller?

        • leftcoast dave

          Deondre Hall.

          • Irish Sweetness

            So be it.

            Hope he stays out of jail. Or it’s HQJ.

          • leftcoast dave

            The stoopid little incident in Collegeville was likely a very good lesson for him.

        • MrPoopoopachu

          Eddie Jackson will win the FS job. Proven production at an elite college program and a team captain. Nothing suggests that he’s not ready to perform as a pro Day 1.

      • Joecashflow

        Agree with that. The FA fill-ins were singles and doubles, not HR though.

        • And that was the intent. Get guys who can play and not be embarrassingly bad this year. It’s not about this year though. This draft made that super obvious.

          They’re gonna suck this year, Fox is gonna get fired, and then Pace gets his first chance to pick his own HC who fits the image of the team he wants going forward. That coach will get 2 years with Trubisky, and if it’s not looking good both he and Pace will be fired.

          So the TE, OG, RB, and QB were all drafted with 2018 in mind more than 2017. Toys for the new HC to play with as he sees fit.

          I don’t get drafting an OG given their current depth cart, but I’m guessing they look at him as Sitton’s eventual replacement.

    • Ososfan

      No doubt about it, that’s why I was thinking he’d select one of these raw but talented OLB’s to develop. Man, I’m so bummed

    • Irish Sweetness

      Nah.

      1. Got us a franchise roll, fair enough. Fucked it up proper, but fair enough.

      2. He missed out on Obi/Budda to move down.

      3. Drafted a midget who is headed directly for an MRI facility shortly after his first collision with a 260lb felon

      4. Drafted a fucking I-don’t-know–what at safety, when two Kam chancellor-type killers were still on the board. Perrine was on the board. A carbon-copy to plug in behind Howard. Insurance. Relief. All that.

      5. Fuck.

      • Ososfan

        Laughing and crying at the same time with this.

      • BearDown100393

        Maybe not a midget per say but leprechaun?

        • leftcoast dave

          Ok, lets get out there on the edge. A brother from another mother (who was black) had an Irish father and surname. I still remember a rumble in a bar on St. Patricks Day when somebody called him a lepre – (you fill in the blank).

          • BearDown100393

            Ray Donovan

          • Irish Sweetness

            BANG!

          • leftcoast dave

            Oh, yea. They got messed up.

        • Irish Sweetness

          That’s like the N word to me.

          • willbest

            leprechaun?

          • Joecashflow

            Irish? 1+1 ?

          • Irish Sweetness

            BANG!

            (Will’s wife comes to the bar just as he comes round. She can’t understand what he’s trying to say through a toothless, bloody mouth, and she starts to cry. Outside the bar, Irish stops to light a cigarette, and smiles at the passing nubian queen, who greets his gaze with a smile. She sees the blood on his hand and it excites her. He follows her. She glances back, still smiling. It’s on.)

          • willbest

            I have an Irish name, even though I am mostly English and Welsh. Never heard of it used as a slang, never been called it.

          • CanadaBear

            I think it has as much to do with how you say it. If it’s meant as an insult …

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            say it the Lucky charms voice and you will be alright.

          • Johnnywad

            Hahahaha. Love that.

          • CanadaBear

            Have I told you about my tattoo?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            nope. what you got? I don’t need to know the location, mainly cuz I is skeered to find out.

          • CanadaBear

            Location, location, location. On my left quad is a leprechaun dancing a jig on the edge of a cliff. He’s looking past the cliff with a shit disturber grin. On the right quad is of course the pot of gold residing on the opposite cliff. It doesn’t work without a rainbow. It’s a beauty with clouds in it. 20 hours needle time.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            sounds cool. I honestly figured you were going to say you had it on your ass, which from the sound of it would have worked too.

          • CanadaBear

            Colorful to say the least. The ironic part of all this is I could have drank for free on St Paddy’s Day for the rest of my life and I had already quit when I got it.

          • willbest

            I think you also have to be around a tribal fault line to even learn the slurs. Most people don’t go out of their way to learn them if they aren’t going to run across those groups of people on the regular.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            There’s the Irish I have been missing. The one with the crazy scenarios and conspiracies.

          • CanadaBear

            You’ve still got it!

      • leftcoast dave

        The dude he picked at S made it at Bama.

      • Joecashflow

        We waited a whole season and off season for THIS? Does anyone see a change from 3-13 due to the draft ?

        • leftcoast dave

          Yep. Pace believes he has the pieces already and now is looking to the future with his first two picks. Then a great secondary player from ‘Bama who could have come out last year and a Barry Sanders change up for a run first offense. Not looking for bodies, has enough to compete and will already have choices to make.

          • Joecashflow

            Yes we understand fully what Pace believes. 3-13 is mine.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          16-0

      • CanadaBear

        If Pace hits on Trubisky it will be a great draft. If he misses on Trubisky, all of these other guys will have to be really good or it will be known as a bad draft. The chance of him hitting on a Div II TE and a diminutive RB seems unlikely. From what BB said the S is legit. I know you love to equate bigger is always better but it’s not that simple.

        • Irish Sweetness

          We passed up a Mayock first rounder in Obi. Budda would have been a great nickel for us.

          He totally reached on a TE from a tiny school. Cost us a starting DB.

          • CanadaBear

            I’m not crazy about any of those small school picks but the other guys might not be all that either.

        • Irish Sweetness

          1. We had a QB no matter what happened at 2. We lost leverage.

          2. Mistakes – may one day be proven – to be glaring.

          3. We could have auto-picked the draft and come away with a better haul.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    GREATEST DRAFT EVER!!! I like every pick.

    • BearDown100393

      It really is a spectacle isn’t it?

      • Malice Halice

        Yea because I was expecting Adam’s or D in general. But pace wanna have shootouts with vadge n kitties n spikes

        • BearDown100393

          The Bears will shutout the Pack in blowouts.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Damn right, thats the spirit.

        • leftcoast dave

          Looks like he wants to O to stay on the field longer and will be looking to run the ball even more.

    • Irish Sweetness
      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        nope

  • leftcoast dave

    Houston just grabbed one of the OTs I wanted.

    • willbest

      I read that as Julie in Davenport. Why do parents do that?

      • leftcoast dave

        Want to visit for the Bix every summer?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Do you have a football team of your own Dave?

      TEE-HEE!

      • leftcoast dave

        I’m scouting for the 9ers!

  • leftcoast dave

    Trub’s receiver just taken by NY. Damn, another white boy.

    • willbest

      Watson was the QB at Clemson

      • leftcoast dave

        My bad, they showed tape of Trub’s receiver. What was that all about?

      • leftcoast dave

        Yep, that was Switzer to the Cowboys.

        • SC Dave

          that kid WILL make the team

  • Joecashflow

    Otta here. Bears fans, let me introduce the new face of your franchise, Mr. Biscuit!

  • willbest

    Jake Butt would have been the TE I would have gambled on. Fucking Donks

  • leftcoast dave

    My choice:
    Roderick Johnson

    6’7″298 lbs

    Florida State

    • Irish Sweetness

      Dave, you still care?

      We stuck a 357 up the ass of this draft and pulled the trigger until it went ‘click’.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        exactly. It is a great draft. we killed it.

        • leftcoast dave

          Can’t say it did not go as expected. Was “out of the box” and against all conventional wisdom. Again, can only mean that Pace has what he wants competing for positions under contract and is clearly looking to run the ball.

          • Irish Sweetness

            So he drafted a midget, who would look like Garret Wolfe’s son along side him.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I shall re-phrase for clarity.

          We stuck a 357 up the ass of our draft and pulled the trigger until it went ‘click’.

          Then we put a bullet in each foot and kneecap, so that it couldn’t crawl away for help.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            exactly, we had a great draft, it is so great you can unload a clip in it’s ass and not phase its awesomeness.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Tell me, Penis, would you enjoy a large caliber bullet ripping you apart from the bunghole to your thorax?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            If i was as awesome as this draft. I pretty sure it would not phase me

      • SC Dave

        ffs piss off. you have zero clue what all this will become, just lime the rest of us

        • willbest

          You have been hitting the ‘m’ instead of ‘k’ the last couple days

  • Irish Sweetness

    Kid:

    With the 5th round pick .. the CB select … some guard we don’t need … like at all … blah blah … blah

    (absolute silence)

    2017 Draft.

    Fucking uninspiring, sunshine.

    We could have auto-picked this draft and had great players with no trades. Hit it out of the park, on fucking auto-pick.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      from Kutztown.

      • willbest

        more colleges I don’t know. A Sitton replacement. Or hell, who knows how many years long has in him. Its probably going to be Kush to start the season anyway.

        • leftcoast dave

          Don’t like what that says about Long or Grassu.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Grasu is a center, like an actual center, and was our starter until Whitehair had to do it. Whitehair should be our backup swing-guard. Grasu comes in at that point.

          • leftcoast dave

            Whitehair was so good last year, Grasu might not get the position back. There was even talk of moving Whitehair out to RT which might be in the cards. Pace planning on stacking the line?

          • Irish Sweetness

            He won’t .. but if Kush goes in as backup guard and gets hurt, then Whitehair should replace him. We have another center, not another guard.

          • leftcoast dave

            I think Pace wants to put Grassu in at center, only because he thinks Whitehair can possibly move out to RT. He is great at run blocking, played LT in College and was picked to move in to guard.

          • Big Mike

            Long to RT?

          • Irish Sweetness

            He’s not good there, and he doesn’t like it.

          • Big Mike

            He was pretty good, not having practiced their all offseason.

          • Big Mike

            Whitehair is no back up. If anything you push long to RT to Whitehair and Grasu both on the field, if Grasu lives up to his rep.

          • Irish Sweetness

            No – he is the Center. But if Long/Sitton go down, Kush goes in at G. At that point, White-hair should become his backup, and if Kush gets injured, Cody moves over, in comes Grasu at C

            Instead of playing some spastic off the bench.

          • Big Mike

            I think Grasu is going to be the starting C. Whitehair will be on the field. You figure out how to get your best 5 out there. The only real odd position is LT. Those guys are different.

          • leftcoast dave

            No, more likely Whitehair out to RT.

          • Big Mike

            Why do you think ? I don’t hate the idea.

          • leftcoast dave

            Played ALL games for TWO seasons at K State playing LT!

          • Big Mike

            Not his natural position. He played RT his senior year because he was so much better than everyone else. Showed his versatility and athleticism. He’s similar to Long. Long played 16 games in the NFL at RT. But either way, kicking one of those guys to RT, puts Whitehair at OG and Grasu as a starting Center. I think Grasu might be a player. Heard a rumor he’s worked out hard to build strength in lower body. Looks pretty solid. I’ve had some players tell me that moving from the one side of the line to the other is harder than moving from G to T. These were HS and College players. Makes sense to me.

          • leftcoast dave

            Whitehair started out at RT before going to LG then LT for most of three years. Morgan is longer and would likely be better able to handle the pass rush (in theory), but I like building up the trenches.

          • willbest

            Whitehair made the all-fucking rookie team as a center. Why are you trying to make our O-line worse. I thought you loved a power run game.

          • Johnnywad

            Grassu was on skates man. If he isn’t bigger, he’s got no shot.

          • #RomanianIceSkater

          • leftcoast dave

            Dude needs to spend lots of time doing squats.

          • leftcoast dave

            . . . on his toes.

          • willbest

            He got bigger, it lead to the injury. I don’t think his frame can support the weight he needs to play at in the NFL

          • jab

            I think Long will be fine but I think Grasu is a man without a position now unless they move whitehair back to guard. They need a left guard.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          PSAC Offensive Athlete of the Year

        • Big Mike

          Kush? Over who? Sitton? Long? Whitehair?

          • willbest

            Long’s got a ways to go in rehabing that shoulder

          • Big Mike

            Any definitive news on how that is going?

          • willbest

            Not that I have read. I am just recalling that Howie implied a month or two back that it was worse than Kyle was trying to spin it.

      • leftcoast dave

        Four-year starter at left tackle who was able to physically overwhelm
        much smaller opponents across from him. Morgan is a good athlete with
        the nastiness as a run blocker that is necessary to transition inside to
        guard, but he could be headed for early struggles mirroring NFL rushers
        in pass protection. Morgan could become a solid NFL backup with
        eventual starter potential if he improves his balance and stops lunging.

        • Big Mike

          Nice pick but we have about 8 guys who can play OG. Grasu gets a shot at C this off sesaon. Whitehair can play OG or C. Slauson, Long entrenched. Unless they are moving Long back to RT.

          • Johnnywad

            Slauson?

          • leftcoast dave

            Whitehair played RT and LG but mostly LT in college but the rap is short arms. The new kid Jordan Morgan played LT but has longer arms at 34 5/8. We shall see who gets moved where, but clearly Pace has loaded the line with quality and might be looking to pick up a project OT in the UDFA or cut market.

          • Big Mike

            sitton

          • Johnnywad

            Ahh. I had a moment of hope that we somehow resigned him.

          • Big Mike

            Still one of the oddest moves ever was to let him go. He got bailed out when the Packers didn’t sign Sitton.

          • Johnnywad

            Agree 100%

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            who?

          • Johnnywad

            What’s this now?

          • willbest

            Third Base

          • leftcoast dave
      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        wow… he wasn’t the first player ever drafted out of Kutztown.

        • leftcoast dave

          Andre Reed, WR Bills, John Mobley, LB Denver

    • Big Mike

      What is Pace looking at? Clearly not the same thing we are. Desmond King, dropping like a rock. Something must not have added up in the evaluations.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Liked what I read about him Mike.

        Obi. Budda. Desmond. I would have drafted the first two straight up. There’s your 7-8 year pairing. We certainly could have had Obi and Des without a trade.

  • jab

    This draft reminds me of this part of major league. “Who are these f’ing guys”?

    https://youtu.be/TR-bsTkkXVY

  • Irish Sweetness

    I FORGOT DESMOND KING !! WE TOOK A FUCKING GUARD WE DON’T NEED!!!

    We drafted a JAG safety with a broken leg, with two killers still on the board .. .and then passed on King for a fucking guard …..

    (swallows shotgun barrel and pulls trigger)

  • leftcoast dave

    9ers just took CJ’s tight end George Kittle.

    • BerwynBomber

      I like the 9ers draft thus far. That kid outta Utah is a decent back too.

      P.S. the Cheese might have found their first and second down RB in that BYU kid.

      • Irish Sweetness

        It started perfectly.

  • leftcoast dave

    Hey, the dude got love on the tube. They be the Golden Bears!

  • BerwynBomber

    I like WAS draft too. Sprinkle is a beast for an R5 pick.

    • willbest

      Washington’s draft is even more impressive considering they fired their GM a month ago.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Of course it is going to be better than the last guy. Whoever is doing their draft is sober, the last guy was a drunk.

        • willbest

          Jackie Chan did some impressive things drunk.

        • Irish Sweetness

          He was drunk today and yesterday.

  • Too Soon?

    Wasn’t Major Wright ‘The Human Joystick’?

    • DaMurph

      Pogo stick!

    • Ososfan

      Noooooo! Lol

  • Too Soon?

    BREAKING NEWS: Chicago Bears draft a Running Back only slightly smaller than future HOF Wideout Daniel Braverman. OC Darrell Loggains said to be putting together a team of “Mini-Ditkas” who will chomp opposing defenses off at the ankle. The next piece of the puzzle is to break rookie TE Adam Shaheen in half and convert each half into a 3’4″ OT.

    • Irish Sweetness

      The shit safety he drafted isn’t much bigger.

      I can only surmise he drafted a punt-returner, because that guy should never see the field on defense.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        nope Jackson is going to be good.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Better than Baker and Obi. We’ll see. I’ll be paying close attention.

      • leftcoast dave

        That shit safety was projected into the first round last year if he came out from ‘Bama but instead went back and broke his leg.

        • ButtonShoes

          In other words, he drafted a safety that’s injury-prone. WHAT A SHOCK. [/sarcasm]

          • Ososfan

            Broke his leg, unfortunately. That’s just bad luck in my opinion.

          • CanadaBear

            Unless it’s some freak break, better that than some other injuries. It’s a tough position with lots of contact. Hope he can stay reasonably healthy.

          • leftcoast dave

            He was returning a punt, I believe, had a good return going but caught a bad break, so to speak.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Not if your name is Kevin White around here.

      • Ososfan

        He’s supposedly a first round pick last year

        • Irish Sweetness

          Obi was supposedly a first rounder this year (Mayock).

    • Ososfan

      Braverman will play this year! Lol

    • bmwchifan

      had to join this blog just to tell you how hysterically funny your comment was!! Keep it up!

  • Too Soon?

    “If @Mtrubisky10 comes to @Cheezborger (original) in next 3 hours, everything he does is on DBB!”

    Better hope he doesn’t call an escort service and stick you with the bill, Jefe

    • Too Soon?

      Or would Jefe just take care of the tip?

    • Irish Sweetness

      How drunk is Jefe?

      • BerwynBomber

        That tweet suggested hammered.

      • BearDown100393

        He’s a drunk

        • willbest

          Except for 60 days in there

          • BearDown100393

            And celebrated by getting a load on.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Irish genes, whaddaya gonna do?

          [the correct answer kids – alcohol is not your friend!]

    • Ososfan

      I’m his long lost Latino cousin. Get me over there jefe

  • Just checking in boyz…

    Wow. Pace REALLY wants Fox fired.

    That or he’s a Russian undercover trying to sabotage the most storied franchise in order to bring down America from within.

    Or this….

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MiNxdpWFD8

    • ButtonShoes

      If Pace wants Fox fired, that’s good. I just hope that when Fox gets fired, it takes down Pace, too.

    • AlbertInTucson

      “Pace really wants Fox fired.’

      That is based upon…?

      • ButtonShoes

        …everything Pace has done in free agency and the draft this year?

        • AlbertInTucson

          Thanks, but I wasn’t asking you.

          • MB30SD

            hahahahaha… SAVAGE Al!

          • AlbertInTucson

            Didn’t necessariy mean to be.

            Just wanted to hear Butch’s rationale.

          • MB30SD

            Was perfect. I needed the laugh

          • AlbertInTucson

            Well, after all, that IS my main purpose here.

      • The way Pace drafted.

        No matter what anyone says, Trub does not help Fox this year. Regardless if you believe in him or not. Does anyone doubt that Thomas would’ve made more of a day 1 impact?

        And the picks that cost us to move up are more impact day 1 players.

        Sure, Pace signed Glennon, but he did so for the sake to sit Trub, not for Fox.

        Then, look at the other draftees.

        Sasheen over Baker (or insert 10 secondary dudes here).

        TEs are notorious for slowly developing.

        Unless you’re a HOFer TE whose name starts with a G (Graham, Gonzlez, Gates, Gronk), most TEs ( Olsen, Kelce, Eifert) take about 2-3 years to fully develop, and many don’t pan out like originally projected (Ebron, Davis, Fleener, Julius Thomas..)

        S Eddie Jackson is a dart throw. He may or may not start at FS.

        RB Cohen a tiny 3rd down change of pace back with some return skills

        Garrett Wolfe ring a bell? Even more puzzling since we just singed Benny the Jet who essentially does the same but is bigger and more proven.

        OG Morgan. ANOTHER OG? Trust me, I’m no fan of Grasu, but we have 3 PB OGs IMO. Sitton, Long and Whitehair (if he must). And I’m rather high on Kush.

        And if we would’ve kept Slauson, that would be like 5 quality OGs.

        This is puzzling. Many speculate that Long is either more inj than ppl know, or he’s kicking out to OT (in which case, why not just draft an OT?) but as it stands right now, Morgan is depth.

        Ergo, Pace didn’t give Fox much draft reinforcement for this season.

        These are ’18 and beyond picks for when I assume Pace hires his own crew.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Fair enough.

          Just wanted to be sure it wasn’t based on Chris Mortenson’s “Fox wasn’t told..”
          pile-of-dung “insider” item.

  • BerwynBomber

    Peterman finally off the board. Late R5 pick was not what I expected.

    • willbest

      That whimpering you hear is Kaaya begging for a chance in UFA

      • AlbertInTucson

        He refused to run at the combine. That certainly doesn’t help him.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        we will sign him as a UFA. Pace went down and watched him a couple times last year.

        • Ososfan

          I hope so, he has talent man.

    • I would’ve thought 4rth.

      The NFL is baffling sometimes.

      By nearly all accounts, Peterman is the MOST “NFL ready” and Mahomes the least.

      Yet Mahomes goes in the 1st and Peterman goes in the fif.

      I think it’s partially arrogance.

      GMs believe if they get athletes that they can turn lemons into lemonade.

      David Carr said Peterman reminds him of Brees.

      I wouldn’t go that far, but I would’ve def drafted Peterman ahead of Kizer.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        I agree with you on Peterman before Kizer, but look who drafted Kizer, so that kind of makes sense.

        • Or if you’re the Browns, double-down. Kizer-Peterman.
          They have enough picks, and given their QB history, god knows they need as many shots as possible.

          That’s a hell of a lot better than Oz-Kizer-Kessler combo

      • BerwynBomber

        Fat Andy was probably the OC or QB coach when the Cheese got Favre from ATL. He’s chasing a first love in Mahomes, whom some see as Favre II.

  • BerwynBomber

    So we have no more picks left? R6 and R7 to come and we’re done? That kind of blows.

    • ButtonShoes

      I’m partially thankful we have no more picks in this draft, since I don’t have to see Pace fuck up yet another pick.

    • Pace trading Trub away to get back into the 7th.

  • jab

    Wish they would have taken the RB from San Diego State instead of Cohen if they were going for a Sproles type.

  • MB30SD
    • Ososfan

      That’s fucking pathetic.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        I bet he made an IHOP joke about her too.

        • Ososfan

          Oh man, I wanna laugh but, won’t….. Chuckl…

    • willbest

      I find I am having difficultly expressing how poorly that makes him look.

  • Ososfan

    This draft, I’m LOST. that TE has potential.

    • BerwynBomber

      I’m all in on Jackson as 4Rer. He’s a good gamble at that spot.

    • willbest

      Dude finish your fucking haiku would you

      This draft, I am lost
      That TE has potential
      See you next season

      • Ososfan

        Lmao. So smart

    • Irish Sweetness

      We all have potential.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Booing the #1 pick.

    So. Damn. Lame.

    • willbest

      The people that act like adults have more important things to do apparently. Kid doesn’t need that shit. He didn’t do anything wrong even if you believe Pace did.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Worse than lame.

        It’s Philly Fan Pathetic.

      • BearDown100393

        They acted as disgusted customers frustrated with the front office.

        • willbest

          It wasn’t friends and family night at soldier field. It was a bulls playoff game.

          • BearDown100393

            Who also get hit up for PSL at Soldier Field.

    • ButtonShoes

      They weren’t booing him. They were booing the front office. But Pace doesn’t have the guts to stand up in front of fans and hear the boos and realize how much this town hates him, so they booed Trubisky as a proxy for him.

      • leftcoast dave

        They demonstrated their class, or lack thereof.

        • ButtonShoes

          They’re angry and frustrated and pissed off at this front office, and taking it out on the only targets they can see, whether it’s deserved or not. I personally would not be booing Trubisky or Glennon, seeing as how they haven’t done anything yet worth booing them over (though I’m sure they will soon enough), but I can understand the sentiment.

      • willbest

        Pace is still in Philly, hard for him to go to a Bulls game during the most important 3 days of his year

        • ButtonShoes

          And now that the draft is over and he’s thoroughly bungled it, you think he’ll show up at, say, a Cubs game or White Sox game in public? I’d bet on the answer being “no.”

          • willbest

            My bad, he is actually war rooming from Halas Hall. I thought GM’s attended the draft. Yeah I don’t understand it.

          • ButtonShoes

            The Bears front office guys are just like the Bulls and White Sox front office guys. Completely allergic to accountability from the fans or anyone.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          I didn’t think GMs actually went to the draft locations. I thought they usually stayed in their “war room” at home office.

          • willbest

            You are correct. Though I am a bit surprised. I wouldn’t think they would be that trusting of technology not to fuck up during the critical 3-5 minutes they are on the clock.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            multiple back ups. land lines/cell phones/internet/ham radio etc.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            on that note my guess is that the Draft will never happen in Boston. NFL doesn’t want to take the chance that every teams communication lines go down except the Pats.

          • leftcoast dave

            More likely they would all be tapped.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I was going on how often the sideline communications fail for opposing teams at Foxboro, but you make a good point.

      • BearDown100393

        Its an indictment on the front office. But even still serves no purpose to direct it at a kid.

      • Joecashflow

        Agreed and how about McKaskey ?

        • ButtonShoes

          George McCaskey’s no different. Surrounds himself in a bubble of yes-men and fans who only approve of the things he’s doing. I doubt he’d have the constitution to handle the actual feelings of the fanbase. He’s already convinced himself that the homers who he sees before gameday in the Soldier Field parking lot who automatically approve of everything he does are a proxy for what the fans actually think.

      • Johnnywad

        And this takes the cake for the dumbest comment ever.

        “Pace doesn’t have the guts to stand up in front of fans…”.

        He just gave away a third of his draft to take the kid in front of the entire sporting world. Every single move he makes is scrutinized infinitely by fans without a clue. You don’t think he’s heard the collective digital boo?

        Was he supposed to make this pick from the half time show of the Bulls game so people like you could scream at him? I hope to God Trubisky can play, just so I can remind people like you how you reacted.

        • ButtonShoes

          I certainly don’t think he’s heard the “collective digital boo,” as you put it. He’s at Halas Hall all the time, surrounded by that bubble. I doubt he pays any attention to what the fans or commentators think or care about. If they don’t like him, he doesn’t know and couldn’t care less to. It’s par for the course for everyone up in Lake Forest, it seems. They isolate themselves away from any kind of criticism and then use that to act like there isn’t any, in the process convincing themselves that they must be doing an amazing job.

          Oh, and the fact that you have to hope to God that Trubisky can play shows what a disaster in the making picking him was.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            The fact that you don’t understand that all draft picks are a crap shoot, and that the only thing fans and franchises can do is hope for success just shows how much of an idiot you are. There is no guarantee that any draft pick at any position by any team will be successful. Consensus #1s have bombed out. Year after year there are busts all across the league.

        • SC Dave

          Wow. You know, “This user is blocked.” sure seems to say some dumb things.

  • willbest

    I wonder if Pace traded all our 6th and 7th round picks away because he has an early flight.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      still early. we can trade back into 6th and 7th round. remember we have a 1st next year we can utilize.

      • willbest

        The trend in the later rounds seems to be a 7th this year for a 6th next year a 6th this year costs you a 5th next year.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Vikings have 1 6th and 5 7th rounders left this year, is that enough for a 1st next year.

          • willbest

            I think going by the chart the #1 pick is worth about 50 7th rounders.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            sorry my bad only 4 7th rounders.

          • willbest

            I was wrong too. its 50is 5th rounders and somewhere around 300 7th rounders

    • leftcoast dave

      Seemed to be in a hurry Thursday and Friday as well!

  • BerwynBomber

    Headline on ESPN right now.

    “Bears draft 3 out of 5 players from below FBS level”

    Last night’s was: “Trubisky booed at Bulls game”

    The CHI gasbag shows should be lit up on Monday.

  • Ososfan

    Wait, Trubs was booed at the Bulls game? That’s pathetic. I’m a Lakers fan so I couldn’t care less about them. Lol

    • jab

      It is pathetic. I wasn’t happy with the pick, but I’d never boo the kid. We should be cheering him on now and hoping he’s our future. Wait to boo him until he’s throwing 4 picks a game.

    • BearDown100393

      He didn’t deserve it. No kid does. But it should scream potential crisis with the front office.

      • SC Dave

        What, that all their meathead fans escaped the asylum and showed up at a Bulls game?

  • Sactowns#1

    I’m glad the draft ended early and we didn’t have more picks. It’s just another chance to be embarrassed by these clowns. Fucking pathetic ass draft.

    • willbest

      Then again I remember being rather content with the 2014 draft and the only player worth a damn is the 7th round flier Leno

      • Joecashflow

        Jay Leno. Ok but soft.

  • jab

    Has anyone drafted Chad Kelly yet? If not, if he ends up being a FA, anyone interested in taking a flier on him? He’s got tons of talent.

  • SC Dave

    No shit hit mute first.

    Why are so many highlight films overlaid with abject garbage like that soundtrack?

    • jab

      Definitely. The N word is dropped a lot for highlights of a big corn fed white boy. Not that word is acceptable in any highlights. I didn’t mute until half way through. It was too much.

    • MB30SD

      this one is lucky enough to match the soundtrack.

      hahahahahaha… dave, I think it’s pretty good production for a high school highlight tape. hahaha

      • CanadaBear

        It reminded me of a very shitty quality video of Gronk running amok against the Beloved. Man among boys.

        • MB30SD

          Yeah, too bad it will probably be swapped when he plays in the NFL.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    SHIT FUCK CRAP. Browns drafted Zane Gonzalez. I wanted him

  • MB30SD
  • Haha. Pick #253 Mr. Irrelevant, Chad Kelly.

    That’s prolly the most relevant Mr. Irrelevant thus far.

    I wonder if the NFL did that to punk him (being an in demand UFA is actually better than being a 7th rounder) or if Elway did it as a favor to Jim Kelly (his uncle)?

    • willbest

      I don’t think the UFA signing bonus is bigger than the 75k or whatever the 7th founders get, even if they have a couple teams interested

      • But UFAs get to choose which team is best for them, and this may include lower tax states or teams which are weak at said position.

    • BerwynBomber

      I’m guessing the latter. Now that Cutty is gone and we’ve gotten a two year dose of Fox, the blog’s “Elway is a dick” mentality will start to fade.

  • MB30SD
    • Hoyer got signed on the first day and is starting, right?

      #destroya

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        yeah but I really believe Hoyer has compromising pictures of a lot of GMs around the league. It is the only plausible explanation.

        • MB30SD

          down vote!

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Are you in some of those pictures?

          • leftcoast dave

            Can’t tell, can only see his hair line.

          • MB30SD

            I don’t have hair

          • MB30SD

            Maaaaaaybeeeeee

          • Upvote the downvote!

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            ouch, so mean, that hurts.
            #DONTCARE

          • MB30SD

            #savage!

      • willbest

        Hoyer signed for 6 million. Jay don’t even get out of bed for less than 12

        • Texans wouldn’t even take his calls.

          • BearDown100393

            They must like vaccinations.

          • willbest

            I don’t believe that for a second.

          • They were planning to move up for their QB from the start.
            Believe it.

            I also read somewhere else that Obrien thinks VERY low of Cargo.

            Maybe it’s cuz of his Pats/McDaniels connections.

          • willbest

            I know your opinion of Cutler is low, but this doesn’t pass the smell test. A team that is legitimately 1 average QB away from a lombardi trophy doesn’t talk to an average QB? Not even to ballpark what he might be looking for. What if he is willing to work for $8 million plus $2 million a playoff win? What if good Jay shows up in San Fran or Cleveland next year and you have to explain to a billionaire why you shouldn’t be fired for incompetence? Just from a CYA you give his agent 10 minutes.

            Did Houston not seriously consider him? I believe it. Did they not even return the agents phone calls? No way.

          • Your argument is based on Cutler being “average”.

            In spite of Data and others citing stats to prove Cargo is avg, he’s not.

            I said before that someone like Alex Smith and Hoyer are avg in that you get a steady if unspectacular performance from them week in week out.

            Cutler and Alex Smith might reach the same QBR at the end of the season, but they do it in very different ways (and guess which one wins more games).

            So it is obvious that Obrien, and the rest of the NFL do NOT consider Cutler even an avg QB.

            QB needy teams did everything possible to land one so as to NOT have to sign Cutler.

            Some like the Jets seem even OK with the likes of McCown and Hackenberg.

            What does that tell you?

          • willbest

            “and guess which one wins more games?”

            The one on a better team.

            “What does that tell you?”

            That the Jets don’t plan on being good this year so there is no point wasting money on a QB. I wish our GM had that fucking level of common sense before he pissed an extra $12 million away on Glennon when he could have had Hoyer for $6 million. He basically isn’t betting on a winning season this year, he might as well commit to it like the Jets and the 9ers

          • leftcoast dave

            I believe those sentiments to be most cynical. I believe that Pace thinks the team is ready to contend for a playoff spot. I agree. We shall see.

          • willbest

            I haven’t digested the other 3 NFCN teams moves yet, but my current belief is that we are going to be 4th again.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Fuck Hoyer.

          • BerwynBomber

            I can hardly be accused of being a Cutty lover, but he’s better than anything that CLE, NYJ or “probably” HOU has on their roster.

            But O’Brien apparently doesn’t believe in Cutler (and I can understand why), and even aside from Watson, he probably felt he could mold Savage into Cutler-like efficiency. (The other story coming out of HOU is that the FO wanted Cutler but O’Brien didn’t and because Obrien didn’t want Oz last year and the FO did, the FO decided to defer to O’Brien this go-around.)

            NYJ and CLE are presumably in pure develop a young QB mode. If they’re trying to win games, then they should have looked into Cutler’s asking price.

          • Irish Sweetness

            “steady if unspectacular”

            (swallows lead)

          • BerwynBomber

            It’s a stupid story that doesn’t reflect well on either party.

            HOU looks like dicks if they leaked it. Jay and his agent like crybabies if it came from them.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Jay really needs to change his Caller ID name from ‘Strip Sack’

    • Bender McLugh

      Wow, damn!

    • BerwynBomber

      Jay ring-chasing as a prospective starter may have always been a bridge too far.

      Who knows what camp and preseason might bring, but he may have to lower his standards if he truly wants to play next year.

      P.S. probably never a good sign when you’re unsigned player hounding a franchise to sign you.

      • Captain Obvious

        He ought to be smart and take a pay cut (though still a good payday) to hold a clipboard as a backup. Even short term, that keeps him relevant and in-shape. And pays him.

        Or fuck, just hold the fucking clipboard for the rest of his career. That’s good money for little work, and all the Marlboros he can smoke.

        • BerwynBomber

          Agreed. I’ve said it for months that Cutty’s ideal job should have been backing up Mariota in TEN.

          Gets to live in Nashville. Backs-up/mentors a kid on the rise. And may even find himself in meaningful games if Mariota goes down.

          Btw, one small irony of HOU not returning his calls is that once upon a time Jay wouldn’t return McDaniels’.

        • He OUGHT to be a good QB to make $20M/yr, but he doooooont caaarrree.

      • MB30SD

        Yeah, in the end I just….

  • Pace shifted paradigms on us.

    Maybe he watched the playoffs and concluded, “You know what? Fuck trying to stop Vadgers. That didn’t work. Just put up 40 points against their suckass D and let Vadgers go crazy and lose anyways like in the playoffs”

    • leftcoast dave

      I like what he has done in the O line including TE. Gotta think he will be using some very heavy packages as well as possibly moving Whitehair or Jordan Morgan out to RT. But I don’t like what picking Morgan instead of a longer OT implies about Long’s recovery. Morgan does look like someone who can step right in like Whitehair did.

      • That Guy

        He’s a late round pick. But I am surprised we went OL there instead of somebody on the other side of the ball.

        • leftcoast dave

          How long has it been since da Bears had such good solid young talent in the trenches? Those are players who can play there for the next eight years, but more importantly, make everybody behind them better. They are the anchor for any good team and a nice change of Pace (ha ha) to see them recognized as such and targeted in the draft instead of the glamour picks.

          • That Guy

            My first thought when I saw the pick was “Dallas Cowboys” who’ve been overdrafting for the oL for 5 years now. But any way you slice it, the draft is lopsided toward the offense.

          • leftcoast dave

            Gee, what happens when you “overdraft” the ol? You bring in a Dak and an Elliot and they are rooks of the year. Duh? Cause, effect?

          • willbest

            It wasn’t all the o-line. Those two got talent. And they also had Witten, Dez, Beasley keeping teams honest as well.

          • Irish Sweetness

            ???
            We don’t have knockdown tackles.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Morgan is 6’3.

    • BerwynBomber

      The Cheese seem to be complying with that too. After picking a D player their first three picks they selected three RBs and 2 WRs.

      The genius of Ted Thompson once again. Squandering his once a generation QB talent for at least another year.

      #SaintsNorth

  • BerwynBomber
    • I touched on it before, but the trend to bench first rd QBs should continue barring Luck/Winston types.

      What the NFL tried to do with read-option QBs is incorporate some of that offense.
      It kinda worked initially with Kap, Cam, Wilson and even RG3.

      But the NFL figured it out fast as expected.

      Kap is out of a job. RG3 broke. Cam is beat up. Wilson succeded but he’s been getting hurt too and was always a much better passer than runner.

      So incorporating some college O is now essentially out of fad, but the question remains – what to do with these read/spread QBs?

      Answer. Sit em.

      GMs can do this now cuz of the new rookie wage scale.

      It was harder before to sit Purple Drank when he was one of the highest paid players the second the Raiders drafted him.

      But now, teams can afford a decent “bridge” AND sit a rook QB.

      • BerwynBomber

        “GMs an do this now cuz of the new rookie wage scale.”

        But that is the other side of the coin. GMs prefer capitalizing on that cheap labor before paying an arm and a leg for it.

        • That Guy

          They’re not sitting him for 5 years. He’ll sit for max 1.5 seasons, but most likely he will take the field at some point this year and be given every opportunity to keep the job. Plenty of time after that to get a few years of cheap labor.

          • BerwynBomber

            QBs drafted in the top 10, of course, never sit that long. After that: depends on the team’s situation. Romo stays upright for a couple of extra years, half of this blog may not even know who Dak is. Same with Wilson if Flynn had proven halfway competent.

            Glennon only played one year until his four years we’re up. JimmyG will be the same deal. Rodgers sat for, what, three years behind the hillbilly diva? Etc, etc., …

          • Bender McLugh

            Gives me hope that Glennon isn’t as shit as he played previously

          • How long they sit will be case by case.

            Wilson was SUPPOSED to sit, but he showed enough to win the job.
            Wentz, ditto.

            Meanwhile, Goff did sit, and Fisher’s plan was to sit him the whole year, but once the losses piled up, the natives became restless, and he was basically ordered to start Goff (and that should be a cautionary tales for the Bears).

            Meanwhile other teams like the Jags started Bortles right away. Fins did the same. Browns might do that with Kizer.

            How long Trub is able to sit will be tied in to how sucky Glennon and Fox is.

            If they can hover around .500, then MAYBE Trub can ride pine for a whole year.

            If not, see Goff/Keenum

          • That Guy

            I view sitting 1.5 years as the crazy outlier possibility. I think there’s a very good chance that Glennon does not start week 1 and that Trubisky “wins” the job in camp and the preseason. He’ll suck this year no matter what we do so the only question is whether playing in actual games will give him good experience or cement bad habits.

          • “whether playing in actual games will give him good experience or cement bad habits.”

            That is the eternal debate.

          • willbest

            Pace would have to admit he was wrong in paying Glennon $18 million if Trubisky is the week 1 starter.

          • Some precedent with Wilson in his rook yr, but it would also look bad for the Bears and if god forbid we are ever in the QB market again, an FA might think twice

          • willbest

            Flynn was a 1 game wonder though. Glennon has played a whole season.

          • But they gave Flynn like $10M or so.
            It was kinda gutsy of Pete to ride with Wilson.

            That would be a tough sell to the GM and Owner, “yeah, I’m flushing your $10M down the toilet for some small 3rd round rook”

          • willbest

            Well the GM also drafted the rookie QB, so he probably doesn’t care. And I know the salary cap was only 130ish back then but I think it was closer to 8 million the first year. It was a 3-year 26 million deal, but I think it was really back-loaded like the 3rd year was 12 million or something.

            That GM was also able to trade him for a pair of 5th rounders even after he road the bench for a year.

          • Irish Sweetness

            How long he sits is down to injury gods.

      • evantonio

        Kap isn’t out of a job because of his skills. Let’s remember that.

  • BearDown100393
    • ButtonShoes

      Not just the division. Worst overall grade of all the teams in the league. That sounds about right.

    • Johnnywad

      Grading drafts before any rook has played a down in the league. A time honored tradition. Makes you wonder why the guys running the grades don’t manage teams, eh? Since it’s so simple and all.

      • BerwynBomber

        True. But how accurate would any ex-GM’s mock and grades be?

        It’s all silliness but idiots like us play along. Ah well …

        • leftcoast dave

          What is fun is all the “top ranked players” still on the board and still on the board and still on the board. I like it that Pace makes a plan and sticks to it. I didn’t want to see him go for a QB in the first, but he knows it is likely the only time he will ever be there to take the #1 QB in a draft and hopefully the last time da Bears are there in quite a while.

          • Bender McLugh

            This

          • AlbertInTucson

            Have to Wonder why all those Bama guys dropped, en masse.

          • Victim of success?

            All Bama defenders come with same warning label “played on a stacked D which covered for deficiency”

            That’s one of the knocks on our man Jackson.

            So maybe it makes some GMs a bit reluctant.

            Another drawback I hear is that Saban runs those players to the ground so that many are damaged goods.

          • willbest

            “Another drawback I hear is that Saban runs those players to the ground so that many are damaged goods.”

            Varsity Blues. I saw that movie. Whip cream bikini. Best scene.

          • leftcoast dave

            I believe Reuben Foster is exactly that and will be the best test for that case. You think Saban was concerned when he “got his bell rung”??? Hell no. Get him back in there.

          • AND Foster supposedly has a bum shoulder

          • Irish Sweetness

            He still managed to fuck up every pick, including the first.

  • MB30SD

    Jesus all these wanks with their fucking Tesla’s out here… so ridiculous

    • AlbertInTucson

      Isn’t somebody supposed to be coming out with a battery that knocks Tesla right out of the box?

      • MB30SD

        didn’t hear that… just know they think of themselves as environmental crusaders but can’t drive worth shit. They’re like prius for the old rich. Weird.

        • AlbertInTucson

          What’ll cost to replace a battery?

          • willbest

            One of those car company’s batteries was $7000. When I did the math on it, I would need to drive the car around 180,000 for the electric to outperform a comparable non-electric assuming 1 battery replacement. This was some years ago, so I imagine the technology has improved a bit.

          • AlbertInTucson

            A friend bought a Honda Acord Hybrid a few years ago.

            He only bought it when they gave him a lifetime guarantee on the battery.

        • willbest
        • AlbertInTucson

          0 to 60 in….

          • MB30SD

            Very very quick

          • Irish Sweetness

            The acceleration is incredible.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Question (Pregunta): Did Cutler ever put what can be considered back-to-back good seasons and, if not, who was the last Bear QB who did?

    • Depends how you define “good” lol

      It was hard for Cutler to put up back-to-back good games, yet alone seasons

      The answer like all QB bears trivia is prolly – McMahon/Luckman.

      • BerwynBomber

        When in doubt always choose Luckman.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Sad, but ultimately, true.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Balls.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Friend and Blog Lurker, Jeremiah Was A Bullfrog, posed that inquiry and said “Luckman”.

        I don’t disagree. Maybe Johnny Lujack, who succeeded Luckman, before an injury ended his career.

        McMahon kept getting hurt. Look at his stats. He never threw as many as 20 TD passes in a season and wasn’t exactly careful with the football but had the greatest defense in NFL history to bail him out.

        • Yeah, that’s why I said you might have to define “good” cuz you know Irish is gonna swoop in at 3am Bankok time and make the case for the Punky QB and his 20 win streak

          • AlbertInTucson

            Regarding that, the 85 Bears won 4 games with the immortal, Steve Fuller, starting at QB, albeit one of those was the McMahon-To-The-Rescue-In-The- Metrodome game.

            Fuller was the QB vs Dallas in the 44-0 spanking of the Cowboys.

          • And somewhere in Thailand, and Irishman feels a disturbance in the force..

          • Irish Sweetness

            And clearly wasn’t needed, it being a shut-out.

            What would the score have been with a QB under Center?

          • Irish Sweetness

            25.

        • AlbertInTucson

          And watching those 1985 season games, he threw a LOT of picks that were Cutleresque.

        • Irish Sweetness

          He bailed out that defense on many occasions. It was the TDs he threw that mattered, not how many. They were a running team, not his fault. He wanted to throw it 60 times a game.

          Ditka said they don’t win a Lombardi without him.

          • AlbertInTucson

            The defense bailed him out more often than vice-versa.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Have to judge them
        against their peers at the time.

        Just checked Bart Starr’s stats.

        HE never threw more than 16 TD passes in a season.

        Now, his seasons were 14 and even only 12 games but, he also had like 6 seasons with double-digit INTs which surprised me.

        • BerwynBomber

          Oh yeah. Hell, QB stats even 20 years ago are tough to judge against today’s. And going back further becomes even more difficult.

          Roger Staubach and Jay Cutler basically have the same career PR.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Still, I found some of those INT stats for Bart MOST surprising.

            A LOT, for any era, especially with the 12 & 14 game schedules.

            Again, he had “plus” defenses after Lombardi took over and he had Paul Hornung and Jim Taylor in their prime get “a seal HERE, and seal HERE
            and run the ball up this alley.”

          • BerwynBomber

            Starr pre-dates my time but I always felt he was a little bit like Bradshaw. A decent-to-good QB who is overvalued because he happened to play on some historically talented and accomplished teams.

          • Irish Sweetness

            and Staubach was light years ahead of Cutler.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Go check out John Elway’s stats.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I am already not a big Elway guy.

      • Joecashflow

        The Cutler I remember always let you down in the big games.

    • Johnnywad

      Grossman briefly entered the fringes of the MVP discussion through 5 games in 06.

      • Joecashflow

        5 games. Lol!

        • AlbertInTucson

          That is a LOT.

          For a Bear QB.

          • willbest

            Wasn’t Cutler on that list in 2011 before he broke his thumb?

          • AlbertInTucson

            Possibly.

            Let me narrow the focus.

            I am searching, apparently in vain, for 2, consecutive, “good” seasons.

          • BerwynBomber

            Here you go, Al.

            Luckman (from ’41-’43) had the following seasonal PRs:

            95.3
            80.1
            107.5

            When you factor in QB # inflation you can probably add a solid 20 points (at least) to each of those seasons. And in ’43, I believe he was NFL MVP.

            As I said an hour ago, when in doubt always go with Luckman.

          • AlbertInTucson

            More evidence for Luckman is not good news.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Ratings from 1826. SMH.

            If you just transplanted the player, Luckman would have been eaten alive by NFL defenses that McMahon faced.

            No comparison. Jim was a superior QB.

          • AlbertInTucson

            It is a given that you can not compare players from different eras.

    • AlbertInTucson

      The fact this actually a legitimate question when it comes to the Bears speaks volumes.

      And not in a good way.

      It is amazing, and sad, that a Bob Avellini started as many seasons as he did.

      Name another franchise with that kind of QB pedigree.

      Off the top of my head, I can not.

      • BerwynBomber

        Someone said Saints before Brees. But the whole “before Brees” qualifier kinda ruins the comp.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Archie Manning and Billy Kilmer.

          Maybe Bobby Hebert, too.

          • Joecashflow

            Both Kilmer and Manning were considered very good QBs. Manning played with no:protection and:was:continually:killed. Nobody will say Cutler:was:great. His arm was great but..

          • MB30SD

            like a fatter rex.

          • BerwynBomber

            But Archie is kinda there McMahon, right? Good but not great. And wasn’t Kilmer better with Washington.

            Herbert = Kramer?

          • AlbertInTucson

            We had that one shining season from Kramer with his 29 TD passes and then, wham! Neck injury. Bye-bye, Eric.

          • AlbertInTucson

            All I’m asking for is “good”.

            Apparently, for Bear fans, THAT is asking too much.

            I mean, the Bears gave the NFL the T-Formation.

            Since then, they treat the passing game like a disease.

            it is as if Henry Ford gave America the Model T and then said, “OK, I’m done here.”

          • Irish Sweetness

            Jim McMahon was a great quarterback.

            77 NCAA records. 25-0 as a starter (1984-1987). 2 Lombardis vs Pats.

            Best roll-out QB and reader of defenses in his day.

            Steve Young – HoFer – learned the game from watching him, and this is a guy that sat behind Joe Montana. His words. Smartest player Ditka ever knew.

            How is that not great?

        • AlbertInTucson

          Have to qualify “good season” by the eras they played in.

  • So, finally had some time and looked up our 4rth rounder S Eddie Jackson

    http://draftbreakdown.com/?s=eddie+jackson

    Butch scouting report.

    Negatives.

    Seems a bit thin. Has more of a CB frame, and tackles like it. Kept seeing him take bad angles to runners. Maybe this is due to him being ultra aggressive wanting to make a play or he’s slower than expected arriving late.

    Aware. He’s aligning the secondary right up until the snap. Must know what’s up cuz Bama D is as close to NFL as there is in college. Fluid. Turns hips fast and seems at ease out there. Good hands and knows what to do with it once there. Looks for takeaways. He might not bring the hammer, but discipline in contain, and at least wraps up.

    Looks like avg speed, agility and closing burst. He doesn’t really pop off the screen, but neither does he look overwhelmed.

    Will NEED to be protected by the front 7. Will do best in single high something along the lines of cover 3.

    Decent returner with some instincts and swivel.

    From the tape, my biggest worry for him is durability, tackling and angles.

    His upside is that he’s heady with good hands and ballhawking instincts.

    He’ll compete for FS job, but it’ll be close.

    • willbest

      I tend to think its going to be Demps at FS and Amos at SS

      • Irish Sweetness

        Mouthwatering, eh?

        FML.

      • It will if Action Jackson is a JAG

        • Irish Sweetness

          Deiondre Hall is the FS. Jackson is a return man with no discernible talent as an NFL safety. King was on the board. Unreal.

          A draft full of safeties and we save a guy from the food line.

        • BerwynBomber

          Demps ain’t that bad.

          If Jackson were an SS and couldn’t beat out Amos I would agree. He’s a JAG. If he can’t beat out Demps, I’ll cut him slack. Unless Demps, like Amos, blows.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Then look up the profiles of Baker, Obi and Des King (“football instincts off the charts”) … and cry. Because we could have drafted two of them together.

      For me:

      1. Watson
      2. Obi
      3. OLB Jordan Willis
      4. Samaje Perrine
      4. Jake Butt
      5. Desmond King

      Doable without trades.

      Franchise QB, starting safeties, insurance for Jordan and a TE.

      How ’bout them apples?

  • King of DBB

    Let’s review the review of the 2014 Draft Class:

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/0ap2000000349959/article/nfc-north-draft-grades-minnesota-vikings-finagle-a-quarterback

    The reviewer, still employed I think, thought Bridgewater was the best pick of the draft and the Bears got a steal with KaDeem Carey in the 4th round.

    Draft grades might be the dumbest fucking thing the NFL press has come up with to fill content, and there is some pretty stupid shit out there.

    Greg Gabriel, somehow still getting paid by the Score for his opinions, was on tonight and basically thought none of the remaining picks would see playing time. None. And Biscuit will sit the whole year.

    So, effectively, the draft produced nobody you will see on the field this year except perhaps Joystick will return kicks. So… there you go. The whole enchilada went to Trubisky. While people say this isn’t as big as Mirer – they are wrong. If this kid busts, it’s as big as that and will bring Pace down as well.

    • BerwynBomber

      A healthy Jackson should get some reps. And if the Machine doesn’t see significant playing time (or even start) I don’t know why we drafted him.

      But yeah, huge likelihood this draft all comes down to Trubisky’s future.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Reps off Hall? BEtter not. They drafted a return man. This guy is no safety. Have you seen his tape?

        Jesus.

    • MB30SD

      Not sure what to expect from trubz and a buncha D2 jags.

      Hopefully the bama safety salvages something

      • Irish Sweetness

        The guy with the broken leg who’ll never start? Fuck him.

        We passed up Obi, Budda and Desmond King. We passed up Des in the 4th round.

        Reached on the QB. Reached on the TE. Drafted a midget.

        Unbelievable.

    • Irish Sweetness

      He’s entirely a media creation (trubisky).

      Essentially, Pace weighted Mitch very heavily against Watson, even though Watson has indisputably the better CV … 32-3 vs 8-5 … to the point where he would not even take the chance of waiting one spot .. .even AFTER the Niners gave away the fact that they didn’t want to take a QB at 2 by engaging.

      “He had to move up!” they cried.

      No, he didn’t. Maybe someone comes up for the two pick. How many players can they draft at 2?

      Either Watson or Trubisky is going to be there for you, or Solomon Thomas.

      Pace is wagering everything on a kid that has to prove it, versus a kid that had proved it already.
      Transitioning to the NFL, that’s a hell of a choice to make.

      But the rest of the draft was a disaster. He reaches – in the second round! – on a small-school TE … and then drafted a safety with a broken leg that can’t tackle .. having let three studs at least, go by. You couldn’t make that up.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    as you all know I had no problem with the trade up in the 1st round but this is funny

    http://sportsmockery.com/quickpost/ryan-paces-wikipedia-page-updated/

    • Irish Sweetness

      This was below it :

      Dieter Kurtenbach

      @dkurtenbach

      Lynch just said that there were other teams involved in trade negotiations for the
      No. 2 pick. He gave the Bears a chance to beat it.

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