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Midseason Marks: Offense

| October 31st, 2017

The DBB team is evaluating the entire organization at this well-placed, exactly midseason bye week. The catch? Each of us is limited to ONE SENTENCE for each position group. Today we start with the offense.


Quarterback

Jeff: Trubisky is going to get 12 games of experience in close, competitive games – invaluable moving forward – and that’s all that mattered from the QB position in 2017.

Andrew: The present hasn’t been good, but the future looks bright.

Data: Mike Glennon is not good, Mitchell Trubisky is a rookie and the play calling has not helped either out.

DBB Grade: C-


Running Back

Jeff: Tarik Cohen’s versatility is exciting to watch but don’t sleep on Jordan Howard muscling his way to the rushing title as he’s only a hundred yards back.

Andrew: The best position group on the offense hopefully won’t be worn down by overusage.

Data: Jordan Howard must be getting sick and tired of getting hit behind the line of scrimmage.

DBB Grade: A


Wide Receiver

Jeff: This is just an awful collection of players.

Andrew: Very few players actually worthy of NFL roster spots on the team.

Data: The Bears refuse to play the only healthy NFL WR on their roster in Kendall Wright (Inman trade helps here).

DBB Grade: F


Tight End

Jeff: The most disappointing unit on the Bears this season, with Dion Sims struggling to catch AND block, Adam Shaheen invisible and Zach Miller now gone after just eight games.

Andrew: Zach Miller was the best player and there’s been very little good from the rest of the group.

Data: Dion Sims can’t catch so I’d like to see more Adam Shaheen going forward.

DBB Grade: C-


Offensive Line

Jeff: Injuries have taken their toll but this is a talented unit put in untenable positions time and time again.

Andrew: Major regression from last year at least partially due to limited offensive game plans.

Data: They’ve been put in bad situations by hugely predictable play calling, but this group has not been as good as I expected so far.

DBB Grade: C+


Coaching

Jeff: As far as I’m concerned, the decision to waste a month on Mike Glennon partly falls on this group and that, coupled with the team’s archaic offensive approach, makes it hard to defend the offensive staff from any angle.

Andrew: Play calling has been too predictable, but a lack of talent may be the reason why.

Data: This offense is so predictable that my wife has stopped being impressed when I predict plays correctly before the snap.

DBB Grade: F

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  • SC Dave

    I’m not sure how you can give the coaching staff an F given a (generous) C- at the QB position and a (generous) F at wide receiver, and a C- at TE.

    Trying to make silk from sow’s ears is pretty hard.

    • DaBearsBlog

      Idea that Mitch isn’t ready is insane. This coach has no interest in letting him play.

      • Scharfinator

        These things are not mutually exclusive. One can set him up for failure AND have him be woefully lacking in experience.

        13 college starts! 13! He’s not NFL ready yet and I think most of us are okay with that – as long as he gets there.

        The play calling feels like you’re playing against a madden computer on easy. Run Run Pass. Run Run Pass. Run Run Pass. Yuck.

        • DaBearsBlog

          Fair point. But I think we’re debating semantics. Kizer is not ready. He’s overwhelmed by the entire experience. Trubisky is ready to play. He’s just not fully developed yet.

          And by the way, neither is Deshaun Watson. People are going crazy for his production and they should. But it’s a LOT of screens and short stuff and he has 8 INTs.

          • Scharfinator

            Agree about Watson. I DO keep circling back to the metrics that Data provided about a QB being successful after a rookie season (QBR in however many games means this success rate) – which concerns me somewhat for Trub.

            There is a lot of football left though 🙂

          • Irish Sweetness

            Elway basically threw more interceptions than TDs for 9 years straight.

          • SC Dave

            Basically, John Elway threw more INTs than TDs four times in a 16 year career. And never two seasons in a row.

          • CanadaBear

            You’ve got a lot of nerve looking up stats!!!!!!!!!!!

          • BerwynBomber

            Different game back then as well. Plucking QB stats from the eighties and judging them by today’s standards is like comparing a typewriter to a computer.

            Irish’s Elway “insights” have always been next to brain dead.

          • CanadaBear

            Elway was always looking downfield and not looking to dump it off.

          • BerwynBomber

            Indeed. And singlehandedly carried those early DEN teams. He was also a superb open field runner.

            And he led the greatest drive in league championship history (in a hostile environment no less) at the ripe old age of 24.

          • BerwynBomber

            Ah, the DBB belittling of Watson continues …

          • Malice Halice

            Watson’s a BEAST! He proved that against the LOB. 3 INT’s yea, but he wasn’t scared of them mf’s tho!

          • Malice Halice

            I still like MT10 tho

          • SC Dave

            Part of the narrative, BB. If Trubisky had thrown those 8 INTs, it would be “good” because he’s “learning from them”.

          • BerwynBomber

            I actually like Bisky’s raw potential but yeah some of the narrative guiding on here is so transparent.

          • willbest

            You got to say slob knobbing if you are going to make that comment.

          • leftcoastdave

            And there you have it. Do we short hand to SK, or SloKnoin’?

          • SC Dave

            What’s funny is Jeff denies it.

          • willbest

            He also has 21 TDs (19 passing, 2 running). Even if Trubisky and Miller weren’t robbed of a TD, he only has 3.

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            8 interceptions to go along with 19 touchdowns.

            the Texans want Watson throwing the ball unlike Fox with Trubisky.

          • willbest

            Texans have some people for him to throw it too at least.

      • willbest

        He was missing wide open players on Sunday. He literally threw the ball to the other team to end a game. That is the second time in 4 starts he has done that. And he had no excuse because he wasn’t under pressure and he had two wide open targets.

        Really I don’t know how you come to any other conclusion then he isn’t ready.

        • DaBearsBlog

          He isn’t ready because he threw two interceptions? What? Was he not ready when he threw a perfect TD to Zach Miller that was overturned or ran for 50 yards on a dead play?

          • leftcoastdave

            He WASN’T ready to start the season. He WAS forced in to play early by bad play by Glennon. He IS learning to read D’s on the fly. He IS learning his reads on his receivers, albeit imperfectly.

            He WILL be damn good. But he WAS NOT ready to start the season.

          • SC Dave

            We *hope* he’ll be damn good.

          • willbest

            Peyton Manning also threw a league high 575 that year. And the game was different back then. Plus Peyton had 4 years of college vs. 1 year. He also wasn’t wasting a playoff defense. If Mike Glennon could have elevated his game to that of Josh McCown we would be 5-3 right now at a min and could be as high as 7-1.

            And its not even the INTs its how and when they happen. If it bounces out of a players hand or he is forcing it into a tight window with a DE draped over his legs in a fit of desperation, or the DB just makes a great play that is one thing. When you are just floating it out to the DB for no earthly reason while you have two open receivers its hard to even classify that as a rookie mistake.

            And yes he threw a couple good passes too, but so did Matt Barkley. Quite frankly, if you are convinced he is ready then the only conclusion you can draw from Sunday’s game is that Trubisky had an unreported shoulder injury. Its the only way to explain how horribly inaccurate he was while still maintaining the pretense that he isn’t overwhelmed at the NFL level.

          • Bear Instincts

            You just compared MT10 to Matt Barkley! WoW! If you don’t practice something enough times how can you get better at it?

          • SC Dave

            No, he cpmpared passes thrown by the two.

        • Irish Sweetness

          He had a bad day, that’s not indicative of how his career will pan out. Once more, Troy Aikman. QED. Argument over. Mitch has shown us already he can make great accurate throws on the run. He’ll put it all together. That takes time.

          How will he take pressure? That remains to be seen.

          • SC Dave

            He made great accurate throws on the run in practice. One would think that would translate to the big leagues, but it has not.

            Trubisky has been consistently inaccurate.

            The argument is not that his career is over, Irish. It is that the coaching staff was correct to consider him not quite ready. Circumstances (i.e. Glennon sucking) forced their hands.

            But it’s possible MT would have started next week anyway.

          • Bear Instincts

            Sine we have concluded that he is not ready it should not come as a suprise when he throws INT’s and makes mistakes. Just take it in stride as part of his inexperience. Or perhaps you would have rather traded for JimmyG or KCousins and put up with their mistakes?

          • SC Dave

            We are. We are just not calling him a “great QB”. Because he’s not.

            And we all hope that last sentence should be amended witg the word “yet”.

          • willbest

            The frustration with Mitch Trubisky using this year as a learning year is that the door to the division is now wide open, and the Defense hasn’t looked like this since 2011.

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            When he makes mistakes he owns them. Which means he will take the effort to improve. He was scouted with very high character traits.

            He’s not some trust fund baby. And like I posted earlier, his former UNC team is 1-8 right now without him. North Carolina in their worst years win half of their games. It’s a good program.

        • Bear Instincts

          Making mistakes does not mean that he is not ready. No one ever said that Cutty was not ready when he was throwing soul destroying INT’s. If MT10 is making throwing the same kind of INT’s next season after an upgrade at WR/Play Calling/New Coach then we can start to rip him a new one. Till then pump the brakes and give the kid a chance. We all knew this season was going to be a rough one. You cant date a hooker and not expect to catch something

      • SC Dave

        Certainly no less sane than flat out refusing to see all the bad plays Trubisky makes. It’s as if you’re watching game film edited by his publicist.

        • Bear Instincts

          MT10 makes bad plays. We all know this. However he is a rookie. It is to be expected. Perhaps some of these mistakes would have been worked out already if he had started getting 1st team reps from camp.

          • willbest

            I think you aren’t realizing the distinction. A bad decision in trusting your arm too much is one thing. Mitch was making bad throws on top of his poor processing time.

        • DaBearsBlog

          It’s not a narrative at all. Making mistakes does not equal “not ready”. Making mistakes is being a rookie. He’s done all of the things WELL that would equate to not being ready: alignments, blitz pickups, extending plays.

          • SC Dave

            I disagree, as do many. You’re myopic on this Jeff.

      • Malice Halice

        Optimistically speaking here. What if all those 3rd down plays r like a fast forward button for his experience to learn under pressure? So by next year, shit will be a breeze cuz he’s going thru trials n tribulations this season?

  • Irish Sweetness

    Well. Even if you’re not a Star Trek fan, anyone could appreciate ST:Discovery … Episode 7 – Magic to Make The Sanest Man Go Mad. Maybe the best written ST episode from any of the series. Star Trek’s tip of the hat to Groundhog Day and Edge of Tomorrow.

    Brilliant writing.

    • CanadaBear

      You have to at least like Sci-Fi to appreciate ST. I hate Sci-Fi and never watch it in any form.

      • Irish Sweetness

        That’s allowed, C-Bear!

    • willbest

      Discovery isn’t star trek.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Why?

        • willbest

          Because whatever Spock’s retcon sister is, wouldn’t be able to pass the psychological evaluation to cut it in star fleet to begin with. Oh and then there is the issue where it takes place in neither star trek universe.

  • Irish Sweetness

    I’d agree with all of those grades bar the Running Backs. B+. Are we including all-time running backs or just this league? The backs that can bang and it AND play receiver out of the backfield far outweigh a Howard. He led the league in drop percentage last season. If you’re a Bell or a Johnson, you can do it all. Jordan can barrel for so many yards and that’s it. Can’t catch. That’s hard to give an A. Solid B+.

    Her’s what it comes down to. Are there a few guys in this league you’d swap him for?

    • Scharfinator

      Bell can’t stay off the weed. Zeke can’t stay out of trouble. Maybe Hunt, though he’s more like Cohen than Howard.

    • SC Dave

      I’ll reserve judgment on Howard and catching until he has a QB that throws the ball in the right place.

      Both of the red zone drops this season forced him to face backwards from the direction he was moving to have a chance to catch the ball. In neither case would Howard have made it to the end zone other than entirely on his own.

      If you watch the replay of last week’s he drops the ball after he trips while *running backwards*. Again, he should have caught it, but the QB needs to help a little.

      • willbest

        In the fucking chest is the right place Dave. Could it have been thrown for a catch and run walk in TD? sure, but Howard looked that shit right into his belly and bricked it because he was more concerned with getting the TD than making the catch.

        • BearDown100393

          Howard is probably out there with a bad shoulder. Just sayin’

          • willbest

            All the more reason to put it someplace where he can use both hands. Which is where it ended up.

          • SC Dave

            It was a badly placed ball will. Not necessarily MTs fault which is what I alluded to with the comment on the Saints LB.

          • Irish Sweetness

            That’s worrying, in that case then we should have been after Blount as a fill-in. Cohen is not a bell-cow RB.

        • SC Dave

          I think he suddenly went off-balance tripping running backwards, lost his concentration, and dropped the ball.

          Do you have gamepass? I do, and I’ve watched that play a bunch of times before writing any of this.

    • willbest

      Has nobody ever taught anything? I know you don’t want to do any grad inflating but holy hell, you don’t just pile up the 30-50 A+ students you have taught over the last 50-60 years and tell the current guys they can’t get an A any longer.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Does he even get an A right now? We have guys like Bell, Johnson, Gurley, Elliot, Fournette et al int he league. I love me some Jordan, don’t get me wrong. But if we’re handing out grades … there’s a Bell curve.

  • BearDown100393

    Not too shabby of a post. Well done. But I’m in agreement with Irish on the RBs. Howard is very good. B+ feels about right.

  • Malice Halice

    How bout dem Eagles! Makin BIG moves to be a post season threat by adding Ajayi tot their roster!

    • willbest

      A 4th round pick for him seems like a steal. Was he snorting lines with the O-line coach or something?

    • Irish Sweetness

      They have more running backs than a MFer ….

  • leftcoastdave

    Other than the obvious in Pittsburgh, any likely trades out there for da Bear?

    • willbest

      Bryant is not on Pace’s radar.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Good.

    • BerwynBomber

      Jarvis Landry WR MIA. Jeff’s tweeting about it but the rumor about his availability has been floating for days. And MIA might be looking toward the future given their Ajayi move.

      • 505Bears

        That would be sweet, but the cost?

      • willbest

        Yeah but Landry is a bona fide player. That would cost real draft capital.

  • Bear Instincts

    https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/925364371492020224
    #Steelers have been getting “low ball” offers for WR Martavis Bryant. Teams concerned with off the field history.

    • willbest

      They aren’t lowball offers.

      • Malice Halice

        He’s worth a 2nd to da bears. Everyone else may value him as a 4th maybe a 3rd. We desperate

        • willbest

          Pace doesn’t pay for problems.

          • Malice Halice

            Which is noble.

          • Bear Instincts

            As a team we are not in a position to bring in problem players. Only teams like the Patrios/Steelers/Chiefs can do that. They have the veteran leadership/winning clout/coaching strength to put a punk player in their place.

          • Malice Halice

            He is problematic n Chicago night not b a good host to pot smoking bad boys along with what u just said.

          • willbest

            If we had beat the Vikings or the Saints or the Falcons and were sitting at 4-4 right now, it would make more sense. We are however 3-5 while the vikings are sitting there at 6-2. That is a really big hill to climb to win the division. And then you start looking at the WC and we have to get through Dallas, Lions, Rams, and Carolina?

            The question becomes does the trade help you for next year. Not just this year. Because there is no this year.

          • evantonio

            you don’t think 11-5 gets us into the playoffs?

          • Bear Instincts

            i like your optimism

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            you only pay and stand for primadonnas if it’s the last step towards a Super Bowl.

        • SC Dave

          Yeah, who doesn’t want another Sam Hurd?

  • Bear Instincts

    https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/925361514839756802
    #Bears are one of several teams calling Miami with interest for WR Jarvis Landry. What draft pick are you willing to give up for him?

    • BerwynBomber

      Hah! Just speculated about that a couple of minutes ago. Not surprised.

    • SC Dave

      One 6th

      • Bear Instincts

        Lowball. It will never happen

    • This is pure speculation. No reputable source has said anything more than Landry might be available in trade and 4 teams are interested. Nobody has named any teams.

    • WP4Life

      a bird in hand is worth 2 in the bush.

  • willbest

    I wonder what changed this year to make the NFL trade deadline become something exciting.

    I think it might be a peculiarity of the NFC this year. Seahawks are looking at the Eagles and Vikings thinking they need to protect Wilson. The GM realizes the D is getting up there in years and thinks with the rams nipping at their heels he needs to get his wins in now.

    9ers looking at the resurgence of the Rams realize they need to fix their QB situation and seeing how bad the Glennon/Trubisky thing in Chicago is going decided that perhaps trading a 2nd to get their evaluation in now was better. If G is legit then they can more than recover their 2nd in trading away their #1 or #2 overall pick. And if he isn’t, well it hurts losing it, but at least they get to keep $15-20 million dollars.

    Eagles probably surveying the NFC and realizing that this is probably their best shot to go to the SB decided to up the ante on this year.

    • BerwynBomber

      Other element could be MIA — a potential major seller it appears.

      Given their anemic O most of the year they must be deciding they are a bit of a mirage. Weird at 4-3 but also plausible.

      I also wonder if draft picks have been overvalued a tad in the past, and the trade deadline is now a correction of that. Because that was always the story every year: no team wanted to part with picks.

      P.S. I’m all for this “new” NFL trade deadline. It needed a major kick in the ass.

      • CanadaBear

        Making the trade deadline later in the season has helped. As far as I’m concerned they could get rid of the deadline all together or else move it back to the end of Nov.

        • willbest

          Well you don’t want teams stocking up for the playoffs.

          • CanadaBear

            That’s why I threw in the end of Nov deadline. I really wouldn’t care if they did stock up for the playoffs. I’m guessing those trades would really help out the shitty teams (if they are capable at drafting).

          • Bear Instincts

            NFL should have a new rule. You can rent a player in Nov from a team that has been eliminated from the playoffs. However you have to give them back once the season is over plus you have to compensate the team with a draft pick. If you want to keep the player the pick has to be higher. All of this is determined before the trade ever happens.

            This would make the playoffs more exciting. There would be more star players in the playoffs which would hopefully make for better games.

    • willbest

      Oh there also appears to be a lot more disgruntled players this year.

    • Scharfinator

      I imagine most of the marquee players being injured has been a big hit to team plans and ratings.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah but GB and NYG aren’t selling it appears.

        • Scharfinator

          GB I imagine has chalked this up to an unremarkable season – so why sell the farm?

          NYG… that clubhouse has some serious issues.

        • CanadaBear

          Can’t really throw GB in there. Thompson can’t part with draft picks let alone good players. Not exactly an out of the box thinker.

    • WP4Life

      Another possibility is that G – is just good (culter) by end of season – then you decided whether to franchise G and pay the 22 mil. Hoping to not get caught in the trap of being good but not good enough.

      Then also find yourself trying the draft again.

  • BerwynBomber

    This already seems like the most active/big name in-season trade deadline of recent memory.

  • Bear Instincts

    https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2017/10/31/16569040/ten-thoughts-on-nfl-jimmy-garoppolo-deshaun-watson-mitch-trubisky-chicago-bears-patriots-seahawks
    Boomer Esiason on the Bears coaching situation in relation to Trubisky: I don’t necessarily know that this is the coaching staff or the offense that is going to get the most out of him. This is a defense-first coach [John Fox]. I never like that. I always want to see an offensive coach, much like Sean McVay, handling a high draft pick, much like Jared Goff in L.A.

    • willbest

      Jim Bob Cooter. Vic should stay.

      • Bear Instincts

        No – Cooter
        Yes – Fangio
        Yes – Harbaugh

        • BearDown100393

          Harbaugh leaving Michigan for Chicago?
          Interesting.

          • Bear Instincts

            His reasons in no particular order:
            -show the 49ers the error of their ways
            -ownership is loyal to former players…money will not be an issues
            -he likes MT10
            -he has a need to prove to the football world that he can win the big one
            -uber competitive….his brother can’t be the only one in the family with a ring

          • BearDown100393

            Interesting speculations. Of course Harbaugh just might be committed to winning a national championship at Michigan before considering a return to the NFL to show up the 49ers and share bragging rights when breaking bread with John.

          • – Would like to steal some sunshine from Ditka

          • Irish Sweetness

            Speak well of the only man yet to bring us sunshine.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Harbaugh no.
          Fangio no.
          Chcuky yes.

    • yes and no. Bill Belichick has a defensive background, and Tom Brady turned out just fine. Same with Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson, just to name another example off the top of my head.

      What you need is a head coach willing to let the OC run the offense and not interfere. If you have a good OC, then that’s fine.

      The playcalling issues this year were not present in 2016, which tells me quite clearly that this is John Fox forcing Loggains to be super conservative/predictable.

      THAT’S a problem. Having a defensive-minded head coach, in and of itself, is not.

      • BearDown100393

        Birdcage was that much a better play caller with Cutler/Hoyer/Barkley/Giraffe?

        • That talent performed well above its talent level last year considering the shitty QBs (6 games of Barkley, who’s not even in the NFL right now, and 5 games of Hoyer, who just got benched and then cut by an 0-8 squad), the injuries to OL, and the revolving door of shitty WRs.

          They didn’t have issues with imbalance either. That is entire this year, which tells me it’s Fox forcing it because he thinks his defense can win if his offense goes 3 and out with a punt every time.

          • BearDown100393

            Or it means Mitch Trubisky is not yet on level to either Brian Hoyer or Matt Barkley in the eyes of the coaching staff.

          • Bear Instincts

            That says a lot more about the coaching staff than it does about MT10

          • BearDown100393

            It might. Or it might prove to say a whole lot more about Ryan Pace’s evaluation process.

            Time will tell.

          • Bear Instincts

            Da Destroya got benched and cut.
            Barkely is no longer in the league.
            Giraffe Gaffe still has a job.
            Strange Times we are living in

          • BearDown100393

            Colin agrees.

          • madscout12

            Jeffery and Cam were also catching passes. Can’t replace competence with shit and a rook and have it go amazing.

      • madscout12

        It isn’t just “let him run the offense”. It is the ability and connections to bring coaching complimentary to his own coaching strengths. Lovie couldn’t find an OC worth a damn, and was fired for it. Next guy, if he’s an offensive genius, needs to recognize and bring in DC talent….or be able to retain the current one.

  • RenoBear

    I mean holy crap…. I read these comments and am just dumbfounded, but holy hell the kid has played 4 games! The tools are there. He’s thinking waayyyy to much out there and he’s trying to aim his throws. The kid is gonna be fine. When he gets more comfortable and the game slows down for him, you’ll see improvement. He’ll also get a better feel for the pocket. it’s been 4 effin games with shit play calling and terrible WRs. Oh no he floated some passes!!!! Good lord people get a grip. Cutler with 10 years of the same shit ‘floated passes ‘ or ‘had one get away from him’. The kids gonna get better. The experience he gets these next 8 games is going to help immensely, and we’ll be able to not waste our defense. Chill out people

    • BearDown100393

      He’s going to be fine.
      Of course he is. Of course he is.
      Martz loved that line also.

  • Just for the record, the grades are from Jeff only. If I was grading:

    QBs: Glennon F, Trubisky B- (definitely a rookie curve there, but he was low-key really good against Baltimore)

    RB: Probably a B/B+ overall. Howard has dropped 2 gimme TD passes and Cohen has struggled running because he’s looking too hard for the home run.

    WR: I don’t know how you give anything besides an F here.

    TE: C. Miller was fine, Sims has been awful.

    OL: C. They’ve struggled too much to call them anything more than average this year (though the play calling admittedly doesn’t help).

    Coaching: F. I really don’t see any way around that.

    • WP4Life

      Fox?
      Fangio?
      Log?
      Rodgers?

      • BearDown100393

        Deserves his own category. B+

      • madscout12

        D
        B+
        F
        D-

        • WP4Life

          Cant disagree.

    • Sactowns#1

      So if Gomer gets a B what does Watson get?

      • Bear Instincts

        apples and oranges. look at the quality of the teams that drafted the players. bears are not in the same class as the texans

        • BearDown100393

          Yeah we look great compared to the Browns – GO BEARS!

          • Bear Instincts

            sarcasm aside we do look better than the brown

          • BearDown100393

            Absolutely. We have a very good defense.

          • Sactowns#1

            Only thanks to our D.

        • Sactowns#1

          Oh THATS how we grade players now? Lol

      • SC Dave

        You knew what the answer would be, Sac.

      • CanadaBear

        Maybe you should switch to the Texans and go full on with your man crush.

        • madscout12

          The term is “knob slobber”.

          • CanadaBear

            We’re kinder and gentler up here!

            Sac has good points but is the jury really in after a handful of games? One team was 3-13 (a well deserved 3-13) vs a team built to go deep in the playoffs with avg QB play. NTM top WR’s and a coaching staff that’s trying to go all the way vs a coaching staff that’s trying to minimize QB mistakes by playing 1960’s offense. The Beloved have the worst WR’s in the league, now that Miller is gone, the TE situation is looking bleak and 2 of the 3 best OL men went down with injuries. Ugh.

          • madscout12

            Look at Watsons highlights from this week. Every big play is a WR wide open or Hopkins making magic happen. Kid still threw 3 picks.

            He’s having a season for the books, but if you can’t see what Watson has in Houston, then you’re blind.

            MT10 has struggled…like most rookies struggle. But until this organization and its fans realize the truth, we won’t have success in this league. The truth is that it takes a village to have a good QB. Good QB play is a product of not only the right guy under center, but the right coaching around him and the right players around him.

    • SC Dave

      Neither of those drops were “gimme” TDs. FFS watch the damn film.

      • I have watched them multiple times. The ball hit him in the chest both times, and there was nobody near him. In week 1, maybe he doesn’t get in the end zone. Last week, he definitely does.

        • CanadaBear

          The first one there was a guy there with momentum, I think JH would have scored but you never know. The second one? Oh yeah, he walks in. Dave has a point that JH had to come back for both of them but he still should catch both of them without much trouble.

        • Sucka My Ditka

          He has game pass you knob slobber!!

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Forte would have caught them.

    • BerwynBomber

      “WR: I don’t know how you give anything besides an F here.”

      Well, would you grade them on a curve, a’la Bisky?

      Coaching is an F? Good lord, I get the whole Glennon debacle but is this more of the armchair playcalling stuff? And what about Fangio?

      And so Howard/Cohen are only a whisker better than Bisky?

      • CanadaBear

        They are talking about the O (thus no Fangio).

        • BerwynBomber

          Got it.

      • This is specifically offensive coaching. The O has consistently been poorly coached from personnel decisions to play calling.

        I graded Trubisky up a bit because he has made some big plays despite being put in terrible spots. That earns him more credit than failing in terrible spots loses him.

        WRs get an F because they simply haven’t done anything. Howard graded harshly because he’s the focal point on O and has made teo huge mistakes that potentially cost them games. I don’t actually think Cohen has been better than Trubisky when it comes to offense.

        • BerwynBomber

          Yeah, CB already corrected me about coaching aspect. My bad.

          Disagree with you about the RBs.

          The WRs I get the grade but if we’re handing out curves the expectations had to be extremely low once Cam and even White went down.

          • That’s fair re: WRs.

            As for RBs, Cohen has been awful as a runner since about week 3 and has made maybe 1 big play per game through the air; Trubisky also makes a couple big plays per game and doesn’t do much outside of that.

  • Bear Instincts

    https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/925387700135497728
    NFL spokesman Joe Lockhart says Kiko Alonso will not be suspended for his hit on Joe Flacco,

    How??????????

    • BearDown100393

      Because Flacco is not Rodgers or Brady.

      • Bear Instincts

        Danny got 1 game for a hit that looked bad but was not intentional while this guy tired to end Flacco’s career

        • BearDown100393

          Of course he did. Chicago falls into the special disciplinary bracket.

    • It’s all part of the plan

      because they knew what Flacco was trying to do. Watch the tape.

  • Sactowns#1

    How long do you continue the “development?” Say Gomer finishes the season with an avg 100 yards per game and a 35% completion. How long do you let your defense linger while this guy “develops”?

    • Sactowns#1

      Oh hell. Let’s be generous and say 150 yards and 45% ?

      • WP4Life

        Its all relative to the situation…
        What kind of supporting cast do you have.

        For your sanity, do you think watson would be 4 and 0 as Chicago’s starter? I doubt it.

        • Sactowns#1

          I think Watson wins last weeks game. That’s for certain.

          • Bear Instincts

            Watson is give more opportunities to throw the ball with the Texans than MT10 is give with the Bears. Watson is being give more opportunities in the air. All things being equal who is most likely to get a date: the guy who asked 1 girl out or the guy who asked 10 girls out?

          • Sactowns#1

            The handsome dude who asks one girl. The ugly dude had to ask ten and got all no’s.

          • Bear Instincts

            the handsome dude asked one fat girl while the ugly dude asked 10 dimes

          • Corn Pop Janitor
          • Bear Instincts

            ouch

          • Irish Sweetness

            The better looking guy …

          • WP4Life

            I don’t think watson wins that game with Fox shadowing over OC.

            Lets just start with getting our 11 points back.

            Watson is on having an amazing rookie start in Houston. I just don’t see it holding up long term.

          • willbest

            I think Watson has the Bears 6-2, but that doesn’t necessarily mean Mitch isn’t going to be a top 10 QB. See Goff.

      • willbest

        He is at 128 and 47.5% right now, and that is with him only throwing it 20 times a game.

    • Bear Instincts

      His development is being hampered by the Coaching/Play calling. This is not to say that MT10 is not making his fair share of mistakes. However majority of the blame goes to a HC who is handicapping the OC. Fox must go

      • Sactowns#1

        So he’ll magically get better with a new coach? I suggest you watch the All22 of last weeks game.

        • Bear Instincts

          Wold any other qb be productive under these same circumstances outside of the great ones: rodgers, brady, breese?

          • Sactowns#1

            That’s such a defeatist attitude. Excuses are for losers.

          • Bear Instincts

            still does not answer the question

          • Sactowns#1

            Yes. I would argue just about any other NFL QB would be more successful. Please see the Browns

          • SC Dave

            You’re assuming a more seasoned QB would operate under the same conditions.

            A false premise, IMO.

            The playbook is not restricted to spite MT, but because of him.

            They opened it up more v N.O. and I expect gradual expansion.

          • Bear Instincts

            This is why I blame the coaching staff. They should have opened the playbook from camp to see what they were working with. This would have allowed them to game plan according to his strengths.

          • SC Dave

            I completely disagree with that. The assumption was that Glennon would be okay.

            Your hindsight is meaningless.

          • Bear Instincts

            Putting hindsight aside everything should be thrown at him to see what stick. You find out what he can do and you work that to your advantage. But Fox wont do it because he wants to keep his job.

          • SC Dave

            Perhaps. But Fox has already accomplished what the org wanted – a culture change. This team plays every play and fights every game.

            Thus, I’m more inclined to give Fox a pass than many of you.

          • Fox is like a rebound chick after a nightmare relationship.

            Just need something safe but unspecial to sift through the chaos, but not the marrying type.

          • Bear Instincts

            something safe

          • Irish Sweetness

            Case in point. Jimmy Mac. No fucking way he’d allow himself to be carrying out these directives. What’s Fox going to do if MT audibles? Bench him?

        • SC Dave

          Maybe he doesn’t have it. I do, and i watch every week.

          Trubs is not yet consistent. Sort of what you would ecpect from a guy barely versed in big time football.

        • Goff did.
          Favre did.
          Warner did.
          Gannon did.
          Palmer did.
          Alex Smith did…

          Coaching. Counts.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Alex Smith used to be the worst QB in the NFL. Bar none.

    • BearDown100393

      About 10 seasons using the Cutler theorem.

      • Sactowns#1

        I would be hard pressed to find a game stat for Cutler that’s as bad as Gomers have been.

        • BearDown100393

          Data?

        • CanadaBear

          FFS Sac I can remember his QB rating being below 20 a few times.

        • evantonio

          5 INTs against the 9ers in a 10-6 loss?

          4 INTs in his Bears debut agains the Packers?

          7.9 passer rating against the Ravens in 2009?

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky

        You’re aware that Pace shopped Cutler the minute he hit town and wanted him gone right? Let’s not pretend the same people are running the show.

        It’s a silly comparison.

    • Trubisky will be unquestioned starter through at least 2019 no matter how badly he bombs. Fully guaranteed contract + high 1st round pick says that. Only reason Blake Bortles (now in year 4) is starting in Jax.

      And full evaluation of Trubisky can’t start until they actually let him play QB, not “save us from our own stupidity” on 2/3 of his dropbacks.

  • Corn Pop Janitor

    Jets mid-term grades from some Jet shithole blog:

    Safeties
    Jamal Adams has had very good moments, and very bad. He’s a force near the line, but is struggling a bit in coverage. Adams has allowed five touchdowns — tied for the league-lead among safeties, per PFF. Maybe the Jets are putting a bit too much on his plate?
    Marcus Maye has been quite good. He leads the Jets with two interceptions. He just doesn’t garner as much attention as Adams because of his personality. That doesn’t take away from his play, though.
    Combined, the two have been more good than bad.

    THE GRADE: B

    As Urlacher said in his “behind the scenes” interview – Pace and Fox wanted Adams but George, fearing the fans and a exodus of skybox sales, specifically told Pacebot to select a QB. Again, those are Urlacher’s words not mine.

    George probably got it right, as it appears Adams is a great box safety but is letting guys behind him and getting toasted deep.

    I wanted Adams or OJ Howard, but both those picks probably provide less oomph than Tr00b to the fanbase. And Glennon would have been just as shit with OJ Howard as he was with Sims.

    • CanadaBear

      Not that the story isn’t true but how does #54 “KNOW” this?

      • Corn Pop Janitor

        I don’t know. He really does not seem like the kind of guy with deep ties inside Halas Hall, but that’s what he said.

        If true, it’s a more fascinating portrait of Pace than I thought or expected. Maybe Pace is a guy whose leash is yanked more often than we know.

        • Bender McLugh

          he’s banging Janet from accounting

        • CanadaBear

          If it’s true maybe George has a little more football savvy than we thought. But if that’s the case, why keep Sweaty Teddy?

          • Corn Pop Janitor

            Trib had an article that detailed that Teddy was being pushed to more bean counting shit and less operations.

            Teddy I think is focused on keeping the contracts with the city tight, getting all the tv revenue that they are entitled to and merchandising and deals and partnerships, sponsorships, and other beanie shit. He may be weighing in on if it’s a good plan to max the cap or not – but how and who I don’t think he has much say anymore.

          • CanadaBear

            I was always good with that. After he fleeced the city for the “new” Soldier Field, he had a job for life. I would still like to see them get a top football guy as Prez to launch the GM/coach (nothing against Pace) and know enough to hire an up and comer for GM. Basically not have to rely on the league to take pity and have some old fart like Acorsi advise them. Not that Coughlin had to be the guy but I liked it when JAX hired him back.

    • This is where I disagreed with MB.

      He thought Adams was the 2nd coming of Berry.

      Kept trying to tell him that he’s more TJ Ward.

      Wasn’t meant as an insult, it’s just not many SS are othewordly like Berry.

      That’s why I preferred Hooker who, ironically, comped closer to Mike Brown.

      So far he has. Playmaker. But injured.

      Foster and Thomas aren’t exactly taking the NFL by storm either.

      • BerwynBomber

        But Hooker had injury concerns coming into the draft …

    • Irish Sweetness

      Good on George. Drafting a safety at 3 would have been … silly.

      But we may have got the wrong one.

  • Corn Pop Janitor
  • Bear Instincts
  • Corn Pop Janitor

    Freeman said that depression and being bummed about his head injury and concussions made him hit up the PEDs again.

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/bears-ilb-jerrell-freeman-suspended-10-games-for-ped-use/amp/

    • CanadaBear

      It’s always something!

    • BearDown100393

      Must have missed the memo that PEDs alleviate depression.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Everyone knows that its magic water that Russell Wilson drinks that fixes concussions and depression.

        • willbest

          I was at a fancy to do restaurant about a year ago and they had a $200 bottle of water on the menu. I asked the waiter if they had discovered the fountain of youth and he said that it was harvested from some Iceberg up near the north pole.

    • If you ain’t cheating, you aint trying?

    • Tortured Bear fan

      good for him!!

  • Sactowns#1

    My biggest frustration is that we have a very solid D but can’t seem to win due to a struggling QB. Sound familiar? So do we allow history to repeat itself?

    • Corn Pop Janitor

      George wants a .500 ball club that shows the fans that things are looking up. No more 3 win seasons. He can’t keep valuation high and keep the sponsorships going if the fans start no-showing games and that fucking happened big time last year. Lots of empty seats at the end of last year.

      MT keeps people excited. So that’s what they stick with.

      Pace will want Fox gone with the argument that they need a O mind to max the kid’s development. Birdcage and Foxy are not that. It will get better, but maybe not much better this year. You could see in this Saints game that MT was coached to try and stand in the pocket more.

      But his drop-back mechanics suck it. They really do. His accuracy is shit because he seems to refuse to step into throws unless he gets the ball with his hips squared. So they relented at the end of the game and went shotgun all the time. But Howard is his best threat and forces the box full when he’s I-form with a fullback. With Whitehair-Sitton and Long, and a I formation with a full back, you simply HAD to FUCKING RESPECT the run or they would gain 8 yards a pop.

      Cohen is a draw back, but Howard’s hands suck and he’s not a draw back. So the answer? MT has got to learn to be a drop back passer and master PA. Must do it.

      That’s what Birdcage should block out all his time to work on with him. Sell the fake. Boots in both directions, not just to his right. 3-5-7 steppers, set – make the read FAST – FIND YOUR SAFETIES FIRST – then make the throw and make it as accurate as he can throw from the gun.

      Right now – not happening. He can’t take his eyes off then re-acquire. Doesn’t know how.

      • This is why I don’t understand the coaching staff’s refusal to incorporate some more familiar NC stuff into the O.

        It’s ok to run shotgun, or even high-tempo shotgun cuz Trub is used to that. He’s ok with read options. He’s used to it.

        I thought that’s why they drafted Cohen, so he could get some of those snaps.

        Here’s a novel thought: run plays the QB is comfortable with!

        It’s like the coaching staff is trying to stuff Trub into a phonebooth and putting on blinders.

        Give the kid some stuff he’s familiar, that’s he somewhat confident in.

        They can still do the Shanny O/bootleg stuff, but maybe a series or two, let him loose.

        The Saints were obviously blitzing Trub on 3rd downs but that’s what happens when you run/run 3rd +10.

        Good way to counter that is changing it up with some shotgun-zone read stuff on certain series.

        Hopefully Trub will be studying those blitzes in the filmroom and learning from them.

        • Bear Instincts

          Its been well documented that Mike and Kyle Shanahan went to Baylor to speak with RG3’s coach to find out what worked for him. They incorporated some of those into the offense his first year to get him comfortable with the NFL. What a novel concept to cater to your players strengths

          • And a team can still keep feeding the the QB the staple O. They don’t exactly have to do a facelift, just nip tuck here and there.

            This reminds me of when Fisher was cramming down his O with Young pissed off that he didn’t get a more traditional drop back QB in Cutler.

            There’s a reason Fox and Fisher are best buds.

            And it’s even more infuriating because Birdcage OBVIOUSLY tailored the Os last yr to Cutler, Hoyer and even Barkley.

          • Bear Instincts

            and Fox is thinking “tailoring the O to fit them got me a 3 win season…cant let that happen again”

        • BearDown100393

          Trubisky’s college success seemed based on running with the football or rolling right and throwing around 20 yards. That is not going to cut in the NFL.

          • Trub attempted 7 runs per game in 2016
            Watson attempted 11 runs per game in 2016.

            So we can throw that narrative out the window.

            I don’t see how Trub rolled out right a lot given that NC was mostly a shot-gun, not a Shanny O.

            So throw that out the window as well.

          • BearDown100393

            Sure. Birdcage threw out everything else he did in the vast and deep playbook that didn’t include a hard count from North Carolina.

          • CanadaBear

            FFS BD hard count? Might as well throw in the tweet about liking titties.

          • madscout12

            Yeah, and he can’t throw left, too.

      • Bender McLugh

        that last statement….disagree 100% of the time he’s like that, against exotic D looks though yes. He’s being overly careful too

      • SC Dave

        “MT has got to learn to be a drop back passer and master PA. Must do it.”

        This. I was writing up my observations on the O play-calling vs N.O. He did get some play action practice, and generally, it worked well for us.

    • Malice Halice

      I thought we all understood when he became the starter we was to expect ups n downs. The acne will go away soon, let him age.

    • Trub is looking like a rookie QB. This is why a lot of peeps wanted him to sit the WHOLE yr. But Glennon sucked so hard, that was untenable (and that’s on Pace).

      He seemed like slow processor in college. More exotic Ds confused him.

      That’s carried over. He simply doesn’t have the experience like other rookie QBs who started yrs and played multiple bowl games.

      It’s like a person who never played Madden playing against those nerds at Madden Conventions.
      It’ll be shaky/ugly short term, but the bet is that eventually the data points will soak into the subconscious, and when that happens, the game will slow down Matrix style.

      But for now, Trub looks like many expected before PS.

      Some good, some bad.

      I think PS blew up ppl’s expectations too much (including Jeff’s, ironically) because he looked more poised, accurate and efficient than he has against PBers in real games.

      Surprise surprise.

      Not every QB starts off like Dak or Wilson. Need a very specific set of circumstances – #1 of which is a good coaching structure –

      Fox/Birdcage is NOT that.

      So I doubt we’ll see some magical transformation until Trub experiences more, and we get our own McVay.

      (Acquiring Hopkins/Fuller tandem wouldn’t hurt either)

      • madscout12

        Preach. It takes a village.

      • BearDown100393

        If college defenses confuse him why was he the #2 pick the draft?

        • Bear Instincts

          the potential is there

          • BearDown100393

            Mitch Trubisky must have been one hell of a high school quarterback to warrant so much hype over his “potential”. I am eagerly awaiting the returns on it.

        • It’s not like he was in yr 4 being confued (BTW, how is Darnold looking this yr?)

          He was essentially a rook with ONLY 13 games.

          Of course sophisticated Ds are gonna confuse a rook QB, in college or the NFL.

          If you wanna argue that Pace shouldn’t have taken that much of a gamble on a relative unknown, then that’s valid.

          But as Pace said – he’s not here for missionary.

          He’s here to fuckstand, and if he blows out his back doing it, so be it.

          • Bear Instincts

            multiple that last sentence by 15yrs MT10

        • evantonio

          BECAUSE THE BROWNS WERE DEFINITELY GOING TO MAYBE TRADE UP TO POTENTIALLY TAKE HIM.

      • Bear Instincts

        Need a very specific set of circumstances – #1 of which is a good coaching structure – preach

        this is what i have been saying all along. he needs more experience. he would be a better qb by now if he would have been playing from day one. not saying he would be as good as watson or that we wold not have lost but he would have worked out some of the bugs by now. hopefully we will all look back on this season in a few years and many more to come and say we were there to witness the growing pains of a great qb

    • Bear Instincts

      hes a rookie. check your expectations at the door or go join the texans

    • BearDown100393

      Do not worry. Mitch Trubisky will be just fine. And once he is just fine, Pace will begin to rebuild an aging defense.

      It is all good. Really.

  • Bear Instincts
    • Corn Pop Janitor

      Blandino was at the game and said it on air, right then.

      Those refs are going to get demoted over that call.

      • madscout12

        Shot won’t change. Nothing will happen to them. Besides, it was either the guy in the booth or NY that reversed it.

      • BearDown100393

        The call on the field was a touchdown.

    • BerwynBomber

      And we still would have lost by four.

    • Mouthbreathers assume NFL ratings down due to kneeling.

      Maybe that’s part of it, but it’s a small part.

      STUPID ass calls like this is the biggest turnoff.

      Add in pirate feeds, social media, billion commercials, Goodell, penalization of big hits, rules favoring the O…

      It’s no wonder ratings are down across the board.

      • BearDown100393

        Football fatigue. England AM games, 2 Sunday PM games, SNF, MNF, TNF.

        Oversaturated compounded by constantly delayed action.

        The public does not have the appetite like it once did for 3+ hr of sports.

        • BerwynBomber

          Kids also have more alternative sports to follow/play.

    • SC Dave

      First comment in response:

      “Is it me, or are these two much better at making obvious calls than they were when they were employed by the NFL?”

      One thing is that they don’t have to answer to the Vegas mob any more.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Like we need other human beings to tell us the obvious.

  • Bear Instincts

    https://twitter.com/dabearsblog/status/925413722750898177
    Mike Glennon started four games. Mitch Trubisky has started four games. Trubisky has 60 fewer pass attempts. SIXTY?!?!

    Sabotage!!!

    • BerwynBomber

      Yes, because it is in Fox’s self-interest to make Bisky look as bad as possible and lose as many games possible in the process.

      • Bear Instincts

        How do you explain the discrepancy?

        • BerwynBomber

          Four years as a pro vs. greenhorn rookie?

          • Bear Instincts

            the 4yr pro who took all the 1st team reps in camp and for the first 4 games lost 3 our of 4 game he started while the greenhorn rookie lost 2 out of 4.

          • BerwynBomber

            I am NOT defending Glennon. I am only saying he might grasp an NFL playbook more easily than Bisky. Doesn’t mean he can execute it but he might know the language.

          • SC Dave

            EVERYONE agreed that the first four games constituted the most brutal schedule in the NFL. So there is that.

        • evantonio

          I bet Mitch keeps calling audibles to get out of pass plays!

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          Coaching

        • Aliens.

      • WP4Life

        So fox is looking just not to get fired by losing games.

        • BerwynBomber

          I was being sarcastic …

          • WP4Life

            My bad…

    • SC Dave

      A ks special.

  • Bear Instincts

    https://twitter.com/ZachZaidman/status/925418363748315136
    #Bears coach John Fox on practice squad TE Ben Braunecker: “He’s been out for the last 3 weeks with an injury.”

    Fox says he’s healthy now.

    https://twitter.com/ZachZaidman/status/925417632332906496
    #Bears coach John Fox on WR Kevin White: “We haven’t really discussed seriously at this point if he can come back or when.”

    • BearDown100393

      Kevin White may need to move on with his life without football.

      • willbest
        • Scharfinator

          You’d think these guys would save it… but guess not.

          • madscout12

            Thing is…did he buy it before or after his first year on the PUP? This last off-season?

            Couple Mil is generational wealth if saved and invested the right way. Buy that modest house in a decent neighborhood and squirrel the rest away.

          • Scharfinator

            I’m with you. I like to think I’d be with that mentality at 21-22 as well, but who knows.

            I do know a lot of these guys have people come out of the wood work looking for handouts/scams/etc. You’d have to headhunt your own financial adviser so you know they’re any good.

          • CanadaBear

            Gotta keep in mind what these guys have to spend on nutrition, training, massage, etc. Those guys have some serious expenses most of us don’t. The guys that never make it past the first contract aren’t rolling in dough unless they were first rounders. No doubt most of them could be a tad thriftier but they are in their early 20’s.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Foxy was very cagey when asked about White – I was watching that presser. Like there was some information he didn’t want to give away …

  • Tortured Bear fan

    “The Bears refuse to play the only healthy NFL WR on their roster in Kendall Wright”… It´s because they take care of him. what would they do if he get hurt?

    • BearDown100393

      Let’s bench all the remaining starters. They might get hurt also.

      • FresnoBear88

        Don’t feed the bullshit

        • Scharfinator

          I thought they were both joking. It’s better that way.

          • BearDown100393

            Yes…..

  • On an FF note…

    PHEW!

    Waffle gave me an unexpected run for my $. Needed 2 yds from Hunt in the last run of the game, and got it. 117-116 Saheen Sex Machines.

    8-0. On to Bears 505!

    And Hopkins for 40+ 40! Fuck, where was that last yr, asshole!

    • It’s all part of the plan

      you’re lucky that the review booth in New York took Miller’s touchdown away!

      • Thems are the…breaks?

        Ok, I feel bad for that one.

        • Bender McLugh

          Oh man…….toooo soon

        • willbest

          But then you see the W in your column and you feel better.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Mafia

  • Bear Instincts

    http://nfltraderumors.co/teams-calling-bears-veteran-g-josh-sitton/

    Teams Calling Bears About Veteran G Josh Sitton

    Do we trade him? What are you expecting in return for him?

    • Fuuuuuuck no.

      Last thing we need is to thin out our interior even more.

      That’s death for any QB.

      I also like the idea of Sitton at C, and Whitehair at OG going forward.

      Trade them Long.

      • Bear Instincts

        your sense of humor is an acquired taste

        • leftcoastdave

          Had me fooled. I thought he was serious.

          • I am.

            Tired of Long being an overpaid cheerleader.

            Nothing against him. But I don’t really see any difference between him and Kush or maybe even Compton.

            Remember when he had the upside to be a LT?

            Then RT?

            Then RG?

            Then LG…

            What’s next, FB?

            We’ll get more trading him, and we can invest whatever pick we get from him into some white OG from WIsc in the 3rd next draft and call it a day.

          • Bear Instincts

            blame position switch on coaching

          • They switched him cuz he couldn’t hack it.

            Originally when drafted, many scouts speculated Long could play LT.

            In fact, he pretty much has the prototypical LT body which combined with his athleticism and “good feet”, seemed in the mix.

            That never really took because Long himself was grossly inexperienced.

            So then they maybe RT (cuz drafting an OG in the 1st is NOT good value typically. RT is more bang for buck).

            But He couldn’t hack it there either.

            So finally, they settled on RG, supposedly the more important OG.

            And he did ok.

            But he’s just been too inj.

            So then they figure they would protect him at LG (who usually plays with the C).

            These were the plans.

            But he’s been effectively demoted like 3 times already.

            And it’s not as if he’s going to get healthier going forward.

            Given his inj prone history and bloated contract for an OG who doesn’t even play, we should cut our losses if we get a 3rd or even 4rth.

          • SC Dave

            None of this is untrue.

            But it is sad after how well he started.

            Unlike so many, I would have been perfectly happy with a 12 year 8 time Pro-Bowler (with, say, 3 or 4 All-Pro awards) at right guard.

            I stated it the instant they moved him to RT to just Leave. Him. Alone.

            FFS, I would never move a guy who was in the top 25% of the league at his position unless I had someone better.

            Or the guy was going to better even better, *relative to the rest of the league*, in another position.

          • I must admit, I was not THRILLED about the pick initially.

            A 25 yr old rook with one yr experience (Experience PERIOD. Dude was playing baseball pretty much until he was 24).

            Wanted Floyd or Eifert at that spot.

            But he proved to be a good pick – kinda.

            Just too inj prone. And I fully imagine that Emery did have hopes of him being LT, or RT at worst, but he was a turnstile out there.

            So, they kicked him to RG, then to LG.

            I doubt we’re trading him, but for the right price, adios.

            When Kush came in last season and that line played better, that was a revelation.

            Time to move on.

          • Irish Sweetness

            yah, Long was playing last week with a fucking pillow over his left hand. That’s ridiculous.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Compton was great on those trap plays …

          • SC Dave

            Compton looked good. Solid.

      • SC Dave

        You’re being a bit controversial on purpose, I imagine, but trading Sitton is a stupid idea.

        What they need to do is stop the fucking musical chair game on the line. At least they’ve left the tackles alone… so far. QBs and linemen need to learn each other too.

    • leftcoastdave

      I’d do it for a high enough draft pick. A three, absolutely take it. Bring Jordan Morgan back off the IR. Grassu is ready to return and Sitton, great as he is, gets paid handsomely and might just fetch good draft capital which is sorely needed.

      • SC Dave

        Bad idea, IMO. Immediate downgrade of the oline for someone that MIGHT make the team in the future.

        • KentuckyBearsFan

          O-line chemistry is more important.

          Only the Saints seem to be able to shift lineman around and be successful over the last generation. Maybe Broncos….but nobody else.

          Look at how Eli Manning is suffering now and the Giants don’t know what the bloody heck to do.

          • SC Dave

            Especially important when you’re trying to grow the QB. (ducks)

        • leftcoastdave

          It would be a tough call to be sure but it would free up $$$ for keeping Fuller and possibly signing a WR in FA. That and the pick. The real question remains, how high a pick?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I think we got plenty of money for fuller and a WR and then some next year especially when we cut Glennon.

    • SC Dave

      No

    • Irish Sweetness

      WTF??? That’s our starting Center!

  • willbest

    Wow the board is feisty for a Tuesday.

    • WP4Life

      Anything on T Y Hilton… we have about an hour to go.

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        I think the Bears have a better chance of landing Paris Hilton as a cheerleader.

        Urch has her number.

        • WP4Life

          Your probably right…wishful thinking to land a #1 receiver along with Inman.

          I guess video of PH doesn’t hurt either.

    • Halloween.

  • KentuckyBearsFan

    I like both Watson and Trubisky.

    Give Watson another year and he’ll be the second coming of Russell Wilson.

    Give Trubisky a year and some bloody wide receivers and he could be Steve Young.

    • It’s all about short-term / long-term.

      EVERYBODY knew Watson was more game ready. This was not in dispute.

      Kinda like with Mahomes. EVERYBODY knew he was a project.

      So Watson’s more immediate impact shouldn’t shock anyone, really.

      The bigger question is if his style of play is preferable or sustainable.

      Vince Young and RG3 were once ROY.

      Not saying Watson are those guys, but we won’t get any clear picture on who is better LONG term until after a couple seasons.

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        absolutely. it’s obvious with how they play.

        Texans have such a great team that they can win NOW with a decent QB.

      • BerwynBomber

        Vince Young couldn’t pass. Watson can (at least much better than Young.) RG3 didn’t know how to slide and protect himself. Watson does.

        Watson could completely bottom out the next half of year and the remainder of his career, but if it does happen, I suspect it will be for different reasons than RG3 or Young.

        (And let’s be honest, there were lockerroom and off-field issues with RG3 and Young. Watson doesn’t seem to lean that way. At least so far.)

        • Agree that Watson’s character is 1000X better than those guys, but nevertheless, their rook yrs they tore up the league and were viewed as future stars.

          And I think this league has proven that a QB doesn’t have to be Einstein (Bradshaw/Marino) nor a choir saint (Roth) to succeed.

          When RG3 was tearing it up his rookie yr, some cynics sneared, “Remember Vince Young…”

          And his defenders sniped, “Nah, not the same for X, Y, Z….”

          I like Watson as a person. But whether he’s a good long term QB is still to be determined.

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            RG3 was injured (and put back in the game by a stupid coach) and was really never the same player again.

            Before the injury he was the most accurate passer in the league as well as being able to run as a mobile quarterback.

            He was always better than Vince Young.

          • BerwynBomber

            That’s a valid point. Actually the guy most like V. Young is Newton. But Cam is a better player/passer.

          • SC Dave

            Yes it is, but I think he ends up top eight in the league for most of his 5 year career.

            You know, until the pussoes shut the league down.

  • SC Dave

    Of course you don’t want to read all this, but my observations from the All-22.

    1st drive
    First play of the game, play-action pass. Mitch rolls out, gets happy feet gains 4. NONE of the recievers on that side of the field come back towards him. Almost certainly by design since it’s a planned roll-out, but Sims in particular could have done more to get open.
    Howard 5, Howard 3; first down
    Howard 1, Trubs to Howard, 6. Trubs to Wright, batted down at the line of scrimmage. Fortunate because if it gets thru, far more likely pick than complete.
    Punt.

    2nd drive:
    Predictable” Howard 9. Howard 4; first down.
    Trubs nice (1st down) ball to *wide-open* McBride for 45; first down.
    Howard 7, Howard 2, Howard 2; first down.
    Howard -1, Cohen -1, Shaheen fights off obvious but Mitch throws ball behind him (ok given defender positioning) but six to 8 feet over his head (not okay).
    Field goal.

    3rd drive:
    Cohen 5. Trubs outlet to Cohen 6, first down.
    Howard for 4 (+5 penalty); first down.
    Howard 8, Trubs play-action (“obvious” run situation) to Sims, who makes nice catch on ball thrown badly behind him for 5; first down.
    Trubs incomplete to Gentry, who was not open. But okay with going for one now and then; throw was low and reasonably safe. Howard 3. Trubs blitz-sacked, no chance for him.
    Punt.

    4th drive:
    Solid throw to Wright on (1st down) play action for 13 yards; first down.
    Howard for 0. Howard for 4. Trubs to WIDE-OPEN (how?!?) McBride for 25; first down.
    Howard -1, Trub wisely throws OOB, Trubs screen to Howard for 12; first down.
    Cohen -3, Trubs incomplete to Miller (looked like intentional grounding, but call you that without duress on the QB?), fast Blitz-sack and Trubs doesn’t find Miller -5.
    Barth pooches FG.

    5th drive:
    Howard -2, Howard 1, Cohen’s route stopped by ILB (within 3 yards of LOS) => great play but execution failure. Completed, a very likely long gainer for the Joystick.
    Punt

    6th drive:
    Howard 50; first down.
    Wide-open Cohen mistimes leap on ball thrown too high. Good jump or pass would net minimum 25 yard gain; caught in stride likely TD. Execution failure on a great play call.
    Cunningham for 0. Trubs competent throw to McBride, again *wide open*, for 22. Did this guy channel Bellamy sans hands?; first down.
    Howard 2. Howard -2. Trubisky nice throw to Miller, 25yd TD. Oh wait.
    FG

    7th drive:
    Howard 3, Howard -4, Trubs to Howard for 1. Punt.

    8th drive:
    Thubs to Wright, incomplete. Howard 4. Trubs throws ball away (I think; maybe a miscommunication). Punt.

    9th drive:
    Trubs underthrows Sims, no lucky catch after ball bounces off DBs hands. Trubs to Sims, drop. Trubisky 46, smart use of field; first down.
    Trubs to McBride, incomplete. Trubs to Sims, 3. Trubs to Wright, 10; first down.
    Trubs 3. Trubs to Howard, who drops pass thrown behind him. Trubs to Sims, 7 plus 2 more on penalty; first down.
    Cohen 1, TD. 2 pt conversion fails.

    10th drive:
    Trubs to Wright incomplete, Trubs to Brown, 9. Trubs to Wright, deflected. Trubs to Wright, incomplete – a game of inches.
    Turnover on downs.

    11th drive
    False start. Trubs to Cunningham, 0. Trubs to undetermined receiver; if he sees Brown, its a TD.
    Turnover.

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      if this type of analysis was done on any one of the Glennon games it would be longer than “War and Peace”

      • SC Dave

        Glennon did run more plays, so yes.

        • KentuckyBearsFan

          fair enough.

          • SC Dave

            So I had to look it up now. Non-penalty offensive plays:

            Glennon: 59, 61, 60, 63 (remarkably consistent)
            Trubisky: 55, 71, 33, 63

            So comparable, sans the Carolina game. Both guys had one OT game.

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            so the game before last was an anomaly.

      • BearDown100393

        Muffed snap, looked down, confused, picked up football, sniffed it, ate some leaves off a branch, lost football, scrambled on ground, whiffed it, whistle blows, trots to sideline with blank expression, eats a few carrots,

        Next series…..

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    • Malice Halice

      Good shit my man.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Jesus, Dave, thanks. Wow. Nice work.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Dare you to do his first game in PS!

      Even the incompletions were impressive.

      • willbest

        You mean when he wasn’t facing a real pass rush and hadn’t taken 3 games worth of hits?

        • Irish Sweetness

          Are guys playing for their jobs not real?

          Well, for one, it showed he can be accurate. Very. You can give some QBs – like Cutty – all day to throw, and they still won’t be accurate.

          • Playing against dudes who are now at Arbys not impressive.

          • willbest

            I can tell my son that if he can beat me in (pick a wii game) I will take him to Disneyworld again, but it won’t matter. I don’t question those guys desire, only their skill.

        • SC Dave

          Or real DBs, or real LBs, or real anything, actually.

  • It’s all part of the plan

    terror attack lower manhattan – 6 dead – truck attack

    • BearDown100393

      Ban trucks.

    • “Separately four law enforcement sources said witnesses reported the
      suspect was yelling “Allahu Akbar” — which means God is greatest”

      Wasn’t Venice contemplating sniping anyone who yells that in public?

      Hmmmm

      • willbest

        France will be ending its state of emergency 2 years after Nice. Although that seems like it is mostly in name only because the police get to keep all the emergency powers they were using. That seems like it is an expensive and intrusive means of enjoying the diversity that North African and middle eastern immigrants bring to their country.

        • A7Xthebest

          Why the hell do you think we ousted Gaddafi? Means of creating more chaos in the west-which of course demands more police state/crackdown/more consistent terror watches etc.

  • BerwynBomber

    CAR trades Kelvin Benjamin (WR) to BUF for a third and a seventh.

    • Wow. And Pace is left holding his dick.

      That’s chump change.

      A #1WR for a 3rd.

      Crazy.

      I know we didn’t have a 3rd, but maybe could’ve worked something out. (a 4rth + Long).

      • willbest

        Nobody want that contract

        • Didn’t the Panthers pick up some of the cap hit?

          What’s Benji’s cap hit in 2018?

          $8.5M?

          Either way, if it’s even in the $10M range, that’s not crazy.. Alshon turned down $12M/yr.

          Plus, we have the cap.l

          • willbest

            i was talking about Long

          • I guess it depends.

            I mean, a team like the Panthers and Colts are DESPERATE for oline help.

            and Long is still young with some upside (with a PB in his resume).

            That might entice some teams. But guess not.

            He’ll be clubbing ppl with one hand and one shoulder ROS.

          • willbest

            wait benji isn’t on a rookie deal?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Can we get Deonte back now? Actually, no, we can’t.

  • I still count get over the Bills trade-raping the Panthers for Benji.

    A 3rd. Christ.

    I mean, we gave up two 3rd for literally a crazy Bmarsh, and he was half way out the league.

    Wow.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Brandon Marshall was a top 3 WR when we got him IMHO.

      • willbest

        Yes Marshall was probably a top 3 and definitely a top 5 in 2012. The elite that year would have been Megatron, Andre Johnson, Fitz, and Welker. Welker had Brady throwing to him. You might say Roddy White or VJax belong in that group.

        Reggie Wayne was losing steam, Julio and AJ Green had great rookie seasons, Victor Cruz had a monster year. but you go with pedigree over 1 year. Antonio Brown was coming off an injury and had yet to dominate.

  • BerwynBomber
    • Oh browns…Is Angelo’s cousin the GM over there?

      According to Schefter, the two teams appeared to agree to a deal at 3:55
      p.m. ET, five minutes before the deadline, but were not able to finalize
      it before the deadline passed. The Bengals sent the trade information
      to the NFL, while the Browns did not.

      • Malice Halice

        I LUV IT!

      • That Guy

        Apparently the Browns staff was celebrating and forgot to notify the league of the trade.

  • BerwynBomber

    Slow clap for the best in-season NFL trade deadline in recent memory. Sucks that Pace didn’t snag another WR beyond Inman, but league-wise that was the most active deadline I can remember.

    Hope it continues in subsequent years.

    • By far. Crazy deadline.

      Inman type trades are typically the highlight of deadline trades.

      But Jimmy G. Benji. That Houston LT. Almost McCarron.

      I’m kinda pissed we didn’t get Benji for a 3rd though (or two 4rths or whatever)

      Fuck.

      Oh well. We all know Pace is great with WRs…

      (sarcasm font off)

      • BerwynBomber

        I just hope Black Monday returns this year. Remember last year when it seemed like all canned HCs were informed prior to season’s end?

        Fuck that noise. I want one of my fave football holidays to viably remain on the calendar.

        • willbest

          No doubt, we need a day right after the holidays when our credit cards are about to be due to enjoy the misery of other people being fired in mass.

      • I’m not so sure I’d want Benjamin. It’s been a while since he put up numbers, and he’s a guy who doesn’t do much besides win jump balls, which leads to INTs when it doesn’t work. I don’t want to train a young QB to throw up jump balls regularly.

        There are a lot of smart film guys I follow on Twitter, and they universally said that Benjamin was bad last year and has been bad this year.

        • I can see the argument about 50-50 type WRs.

          Look at Watson. He’s just chucking it up to Hopkins and Fuller (and getting TDs, but with INts)

          Still, for a THIRD (granted, we don’t have one).

          I don’t think we’ll get better value.

          And
          we’re going to need a big bodied WR sometime down the line, and not
          many get separation or are great route runners not named Megatron.

        • CanadaBear

          I’ve seen KB 3 or 4 times in the last year or so. Just a slow moving big body with decent hands.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I’ve picked him up in fantasy the last two season, not really by choice, mostly based on potential. He’s done nothing.

        • SC Dave

          He’s okay, JW. But value wise, I think I’d go with Funchess.

          But of course, Carolina’s best receiver has been out since week 1.

        • A7Xthebest

          I live in KC…he(Benjamin) REALLY reminds me of a fatter Dwayne Bowe.

  • willbest

    i continue to be amazed at my neighborhood’s odd candy tendencies. The sour skittles disappeared by the 8th person, and here i am at 19 and have only moved 1 kit kat bar.

    • WTF?

      I went for anything chocolate first as a kid. Kit cat, twix, crunch…

      • willbest

        thats what i am talking about. finally had a sane group come through though

      • It’s all part of the plan

        exactly, i’d go Kit Cat, Snickers, twix, crunch, mounds, almond joy (taking almond out manually later), and all of the awesome fringe candy like 100Grand, 5th ave, heath bar, watchamacallit, etc

        • watchamacallits were indeed rare, like a white elephant or albino sea monkey…when I got one, I almost just wanted to frame it.

          full candy bars were like bouillon gold bars. Score!

          • It’s all part of the plan

            my first job out of college was situated next to a diner that specialized in a peanut butter, chocolate and some mystery ingredient shake that tasted pretty damn close to a Watchamacallit.

          • willbest

            I give out full size. Only get 40-50 kids a year so it doesnt cost a whole lot. Also the minis really should be named micro, and you can’t just give one without being an ass anyway. If one of those high school kids shows up in a costume after 7 they usually score about 10 bars. if they just have a pillow case then i just give the extras to the kids

          • AlbertInTucson

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        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          100 Grand is no fringe candy. That’s a Tier 1 candy bar. The perfect mix of crunch and chewy. It’s heaven.

          • It’s all part of the plan

            this is true, I thought of it only after my sentence was ending and was too lazy to insert it earlier in the post.

        • CanadaBear

          My brother was 7 years older and would take all of my chocolate bars when he got home. I would pound ’em until he stole them from me. This went on until I stopped trick or treating.

        • CanadaBear

          Reese’s PB Cups. Milky Way, 3 Musketeers, Zagnut, Butterfingers, Chic-o-Stix, Mallow Cups, Going old school on a couple of ’em!

          • Never was into PB cups or Butterfingers.
            Never even heard of Mallow cups.

            I imagine those being like some 50s candy bar made by some italian widows from Hell’s kitchen…

          • CanadaBear

            Zagnut was made by the same company that made Powerhouse and Clark bars. Definitely a 2nd tier candy company but the product was decent. Sounds like you aren’t much of a peanut butter guy if you don’t like Reese’s or Butterfingers. Pretty sure the Mallow Cups and Chic-o-Stix were local because nobody else has ever heard of them. The cups were chocolate with marshmallow creme in the center and Chic-o-Stix were peanut brittle in stick form covered in coconut. Those fuckers were the bomb!

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            No love for the over sized Tootsie Rolls you only see in Halloween bags?

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Or Rolos?

            What the hell is going on here?

          • Rolos were good.

            ALways stuck to molars, but tasty.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Fucking ROLOs !!!! (faints)

          • CanadaBear

            Rolos are awesome. Up here Cadbury is the big candy company and they make Caramilk, which is Rolos in a candy bar form.

          • CanadaBear

            Not much on Tootsie Rolls unless everything else is gone.

          • It’s all part of the plan

            gotta keep it real. Speak your candy truth.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Just don’t forget to put the razor blades in the apples …

  • hhhhh

  • Best 80s (ish) horror flicks?

    Aside from the big 3

    – Halloween
    – Nightmare on Elm
    – Friday 13th

    ———–

    – Return of the living Dead.

    For this reason alone

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9-NyE4mQsw

    – Omen

    – Exorcist/Evil Dead (tech late 70s)

    – Amytiville

    – Poltergeist

    – The Shining

    – Hellraiser

    – Creepshow

    – Lost Boys

    – Children of the Corn

    – Texas Chainsaw

    • It’s all part of the plan

      lol, Lost Boys. I made my wife watch that the other night. She wanted to watch Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt. I was like, “fuck that”, (I had already binged it)

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      Exorcist 3 scared the shit out of me.

      There’s a particular scene where a very large something or other crosses a hallway carrying some very large stainless steel shears that can only be used for decapitation. It’s sudden and unexpected, or at least it was to a much younger me, and it stands as the most fear I’ve felt in a movie theater today.

      • It’s all part of the plan

        haha, i fucking absolutely agree. That was the most insanely well done scene in almost any movie. Fucking nuts.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          Yep. Still holds up. Holy shit that’s frightening. Everything about it. The build up, the cross shadow in the curtains just before the false alarm scare when the dude pops up from the couch, you think it’s over, but nope.

          I’m gonna need a bourbon after watching that again.

      • Wow. Can’t believe anyone else actually knows that movie yet alone scene.

        That’s one of my fav horror flicks. Just great all around.

        http://bh-s2.azureedge.net/bh-uploads/2016/10/IMG_7876-1200×659.jpg

        “The Unholy” gets an honorable mention

        http://images.dead-donkey.com/images/unholett7.png

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          Took a date to that one. She was crying, while I tried to put on a brace face after shitting my pants. Good times.

        • It’s all part of the plan

          i’m gonna need a bourbon after the bourbon that i needed after watching that again.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Just watched that a while ago – it holds up well.

    • BuddhaJoe

      Evil Dead 2, they weren’t even trying to be serious so it worked. Army of Darkness too but that was 1990.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Prince of Darkness
      Near Dark
      Vamp
      Fright Night
      Re-Animator
      Return of the Living Dead pt. II

      • Yeah, there were a few more borderline ones.

        Like My Bloody Valentine.
        Silent Night, Deadly Night
        Pet Cemetery

        Even Twilight Zone the movie had its parts

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZMv3-Ahx1U

        • It’s all part of the plan

          Pet sematary. That little kid Gage…..lol awesome.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Pet Sem. Great book. The cat was called … Church?

      • BuddhaJoe

        Is Return 2 the one with the cyberpunks in the graveyard? I love that one, especially the electrocuted zombies dancing like Michael at the end if it’s the one I’m thinking of.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Yup.

          I CAN SMELL YOUR BRAINS!!

      • SC Dave

        Thank you.

        The Reanimator in an easy win

        • I thought about that one but honestly I haven’t watched that in forever so don’t remember if it still holds up.

          Like I re-watched the Howling, and boy oh boy, it was a lot more horrible than I remembered. Phantasm too.

          • BuddhaJoe

            Phantasm! So awful but so great.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I haven’t seen Re-animator since I saw it first, but recently saw a clip of a disembodied head being placed between a woman’s legs(?).

      • It’s all part of the plan

        Prince of Darkness. Yassss.

      • ButtonShoes

        Not near enough John Carpenter on this list. Add The Fog and Christine, too. I’d even add The Thing. Also, Creepshow and Day of the Dead. Can’t forget Romero.

        • Serpent and the Rainbow?

          (It). could go on….

          • ButtonShoes

            That’s a great one. Both of them. This could definitely become endless.

        • Irish Sweetness

          God yeah, Romero’s movies. Of course. The Fog is a classic.

    • Malice Halice

      People under the stairs? Tales of the crypt? I think they’re 90’s movies tho. Close as I could get

      • Irish Sweetness

        90s – 28 Days Later !

    • Irish Sweetness

      Damn, how could I forget?

      Salem’s Lot. Scared the bejesus out of me as a kid. Wait .. .1979. Same as Alien.

      Angel Heart? I guess that’s a horror. Nothing horrible about Lisa Bonet’s growler though …

  • BuddhaJoe

    The straight to video 90s horror movies were terrible/great. Ridiculous premises, and almost always “starred” some ex Penthouse pet.

    • Bordello of Blood comes to mind.

      I know it’s not technically horror, but they had Darkman 1, 2 and 3 on the other day.

      I couldn’t quite get to the 3rd without wanting to spork my eyes out!

      • BuddhaJoe

        Ugh they always run that shit into the ground. 80s horror was poster child for overkill and too many sequels. Also, see The Hobbit.

      • It’s all part of the plan

        Angie Everhart.

  • BuddhaJoe

    Also, They Live. Fucking Roddy Piper.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Is that a horror?

      • Sactowns#1

        Horror, action, sci-Fi comedy. It gave us Shepard Ferrys OBEY brand amongst many other things.

        • Irish Sweetness

          To me, horror is horror. And mixing Comedy and Horror is a weird one. The two are complete opposites. They Live – to me – was a satire,a statement on society

  • Sactowns#1

    I love the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s horror films but the recent resurgence of two horror genres has taken horror to its zenith.

    The horror comedy:
    Tucker and Dale
    Scouts Guide to the Zombie Apocolypse
    John Dies at the End
    The Babysitter
    Sean of the Dead

    Slow burn:
    The Witch
    It follows
    Get Out
    House of the Devil

    • Malice Halice

      Damn bro! I like erthang cept T&D n I haven’t seen House of the devil. Is that on Netflix? You should check out Gerald’s game or 1922 if u ain’t read da books

      • Sactowns#1

        Loved em both! Should have added them to the list.
        Gerald’s Game was the first movie that made me want to puke.

        • EnderWiggin

          That handcuff scene…

          • Sactowns#1

            Duuuude. That handcuff scene. De-gloving is just horrific.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Get Out – offensive? I felt so.

      • Sactowns#1

        Nah. Just a tale of NFL owners and their families.

  • BerwynBomber

    Rapoport reported that multiple teams were interested in Sitton at the deadline but obviously no deal was made.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2741733-josh-sitton-trade-rumors-teams-reportedly-interested-in-bears-guard

    • ButtonShoes

      They don’t want to take on that money and the injury risk. Understandable.

    • RedBulls83

      Would it have even made sense to trade him considering this team already is thin on the Oline? Glade nothing went down.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Here’s one aspect of Mitch’s game we haven’t really talked about : audibles.

    A QB needs to be a leader, right? He needs to make it his team, right?

    Was a certain punky QB going to let Ditka’s BS calls get him behind?? No way.

    Mitch just needs to grow a pair. I’m sure that he has balls …but they’re probably very shiny right now.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      Not sure he’s got enough experience to see that. I don’t think it’s about balls at all.

  • AlbertInTucson

    49ers dumped Hoyer and his $10M in guaranteed money.

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