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Making The Case: Marshon Lattimore, CB, Ohio State

| April 20th, 2017

The Bears could be looking the ever-elusive shutdown corner in the face if Marshon Lattimore is still available when they pick.

If you believe Adam Schefter (and you should) the Bears tried to trade up to get Jalen Ramsey last year. Then they went after Josh Norman prior to last season and Stephon Gilmore this offseason. They went 0/3.

Lattimore could be the best of the bunch.

Most consider Lattimore to be at least where Ramsey was; among the best cornerback prospects to come into the league in recent history. But for all his strengths, ball skills were a huge question with Ramsey. Lattimore intercepted four passes as a redshirt sophomore in his only full season as a starter for OSU. He’s got height, length and is a phenomenal athlete.

But Can He Stay On The Field?

Lattimore’s hamstrings have been a problem, causing him to miss over a full season.

Many were quick to downgrade Jonathan Allen because his shoulders might bother him in 20 years but he never missed time. Lattimore had to red shirt because of his hammies, then missed most of his next season. He made it through the season last year, but then had it flare up again at the combine.

Does he not know how to take care of his body? Will it bother him throughout his career? The Bears have to answer these questions but, let’s face it, they’ll probably be guessing.

There’s also the issue of importance of the position. Vic Fangio had great defenses in San Francisco with average cornerbacks. Do they really need to spend a premium asset on the position?

Overview

If the hamstrings check out, Lattimore has to be one of the finalists for the pick.

If you look at the Bears roster, cornerback might be their weakest position outside of quarterback. Projected starters Prince Amukamara and Marcus Cooper have both been inconsistent pros. Amukamara has struggled with injuries and Cooper hasn’t been able to find the field. Kyle Fuller may be a long shot to make the team. Bryce Callahan has potential, but can’t stay healthy. Deiondre’ Hall is moving to safety. Outside of that, there are guys like De’Vante Bausby, Johnthan Banks and Cre’Von LeBlanc, who don’t belong on NFL rosters.

The next issue is that they’re in a division with Aaron Rodgers and the best way to beat Rodgers is to take his receivers away. We saw how human Rodgers was when he didn’t have Jordy Nelson. Adding a top-tier cornerback would allow the Bears to take his favorite receiver away every week. Their pass rush is already good enough to contend; they need some guys who can cover.

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  • The Yes Guy

    No. No. No.

    • SC Dave

      This. This. This.

      • Big Mike

        Almost a no – brainer to not take this guy.

    • Big Mike

      Agreed.

  • Captain Obvious

    I would rather our first pick not have a significant injury history that cost him half his college career.

    I don’t care if the guy is Urlacher running a 4.3; all the athleticism in the world won’t get him off IR.

    Pass.

  • Sahr Gborie

    A football player’s best ability is his availability. Talent doesn’t matter if the
    player is not on the field playing the game. It is a simple yet
    important concept, as a player, you can’t help your team win on the
    sideline, you need to be playing.

  • Sahr Gborie

    “There are far greater challenges in this league than the situation I’m
    in, I mean, there are guys getting cut, not knowing
    where they’re going to have move their families, not knowing where their
    next job’s going to be. That’s a much tougher situation than where I
    am. So I feel very fortunate and look forward to the opportunity that I
    have in Washington.” – Kirk Cousins

    That’s the type of guy you want leading your team.

    • He’s a year younger than me and went to a HS that sends a decent number of kids to the small college I attended. I went to college with several kids who knew him, including a couple who claimed to be good friends of his in high school (and this was before he was even the starter at MSU). They all said he was one of the nicest and most genuine guys you will ever meet.

      • Sahr Gborie

        Trade #3 for him and a 2nd next year?

        • Big Mike

          No, his upside is known. He’s a decent QB. A great guy. I’m convinced the Bears QB long term answer has to come in the draft. Not saying it’s the first pick this year. Watson does intrigue me and if Pace pulls that trigger, I’d be surprised, but that means the Bears scouts, Pace and Fox see something good enough to pass on a few sure thing type defensive guys. I’m seeing a QB in the 2nd and then going balls out in the draft next year to trade up to get a QB.

          • Sahr Gborie

            If you are taking a QB in the second this year why go balls out in 18 for another? Would it not be better to stack the defense with as you said “a few sure thing type defensive guy” and take a QB in round 4 and below? We could still go all out in the draft next year for S.Darnold or whoever Pace and the scouts like.

          • Big Mike

            It’s an either or. I maybe wasn’t clear. I wouldn’t be surprised by taking a QB in the 2nd round this year. My prediction is that they go all in for a QB next year.

          • CanadaBear

            I think it’s this year because of being at #3. Who knows? I don’t care either way as long as the guy they pick pans out.

          • Big Mike

            I don’t know if it is this year, if the talent’s not right. Even if the Bears draft 15-20 next year, they can trade up to get their guy

          • CanadaBear

            True enough but it will cost a bunch of picks. I think Pace takes one this year so he has two options (not counting Shaw/Sanchez) this year and if they both are just meh he can take another shot next year.

          • Big Mike

            If it’s the guy they really want, doesn’t matter does it.

        • Bender McLugh

          hell no

        • Irish Sweetness

          Russell Watson is a stud.

        • Ososfan

          I’d rather have homegrown and an abundance of picks, so.. nah. We already tried that once…

        • I dunno that WAS wants to trade him. That’s a weird situation right now.

          I’m also kind of surprised SF didn’t try to make a move for him. Shanahan has a history with him.

      • Ososfan

        Damn Wood, I thought you were older. Cool story. “You like that!!?”

    • Ososfan

      Fourth Round QB… Also shows that the right draft team can find a quality guy in the later rounds….

  • Captain Obvious

    Odds are high that Cleveland or SF will take Garrett. If Cleveland doesn’t, they’re taking a QB, and that QB would be Watson or Trubisky.

    SF is a cypher, but in the end, Adams or Thomas will be available. Take them in that order of preference.

    Unless a trade is offered.

    Given that Pace doesn’t seem to be throwing out any disinformation smoke screen in order to inspire another team to trade up, I’m guessing he’s fine standing pat on Adams or Thomas.

    • Bender McLugh

      or Watson or Trubisky, whichever one is left. Too many signs point to them wanting a QB with an early pick (unfortunately).

  • Big Mike

    Didn’t read it. Answer is no.

    • Sahr Gborie

      A football player’s best ability is his availability. Talent doesn’t matter if the
      player is not on the field playing the game. It is a simple yet
      important concept, as a player, you can’t help your team win on the
      sideline, you need to be playing.

      • Big Mike

        You can take an injury risk a the back of the first round, if you have talent to spare. If you don’t players with injury flags cannot be taken in the top 3 or 4 rounds. Plenty of healthy bodies.

        • Sahr Gborie

          I’m not too fond of injury players due to Kevin White. We could have had Vic Beasley. Granted they did not know about the injury till after the draft. I would rather take a gamble on a sure thing than a risk on multiple inuuries

          • Big Mike

            It goes back to guys like Gabe Carimi, Bears have unfortunately taken their share of guys in round 1 with injury issues. Fuller was the same way.

          • SC Dave

            Don’t forget Chris Williams.

          • Big Mike

            There’s a long terrible list

          • willbest

            It really is impressive. Its hard to believe it happened by chance.

          • Irish Sweetness

            This guy will have been the first guy Pace crossed out,

          • Big Mike

            I think you’re right.

          • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

            The first Kevin White injury happened because he trained so hard for the combine to get a 40 time that would sky rocket him up the board. It was revealed during hte his first rookie minicamp that he overworked himself for the combine.

            He ran fast and injured himself in the process. But he fooled Pace and made up millions.

            That is why I hate combine and pro day numbers. It is all window dressing and cooked up, bs numbers achieved by whatever means to impress teams.

          • Ososfan

            He was nasty in his pro day too, uggghhh

          • Ososfan

            I wanted Vic or Bud Dupree man, some more wounds still haven’t healed.

      • Irish Sweetness

        And this guy will be available in the bottom of the first …

  • Thompson Way

    I was hoping that teams would start to panic just before the draft and try to jump the Bears to get QBs, then Garrett fall into our laps. If we could only be as lucky.

    • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

      It simply because none of the so called top 4 or 5 quarterbacks are good enough to be high picks. Forget athleticism, mobility etc., you need to be able to make reads and pass from the pocket in the NFL.

      I am confident none of these top 4 or 5 guys will be in a position to beat Mike Glennon in 2018 training camp. Glennon will be a better drop back pocket passer to all of them even in year 2.

      Give me Peterman or Kaaya in round 2-3. They will have a better chance of becoming something in the NFL in 2-3 years.

      • leftcoast dave

        Give me C. J. Beathard in the fifth and his tight end George Kittle in the fourth.

      • I like Peterman outside the 1st. He seems a bit hesitant to throw deep but he’s got a solid baseline to build upon.
        Checked out Beathard and he flashes, but at other times e seems completely lost in the pocket, holding on way too long. 3rd or later for him.
        Kaaya looks impressive, but weighs as much as Pewee Herman.

    • MB30SD

      Johnny… would you please…

  • CanadaBear

    He sounds like a slam dunk, other than the injury history. Can’t ignore that. Pass.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Slam dunk bust for sure.

  • evantonio

    GENTLEMEN.

    I received an electronic mail from the Chicago Bears this morning. As someone on the Season Ticket waitlist, I get single game pre-sale access. I’m not going to be using my code this season. Would any of you like it?

    Warning: they force you to buy pre-season tickets to match the number of regular season tickets you want.

    • CanadaBear

      When did they start making you buy tix to those worthless exhibition games when you buy single game tix?

      • evantonio

        i think it’s something special they have for those of us on the ST waiting list.

        “we can offer them a chance to buy tickets before the general public. and as a show of their appreciation, they’ll bend over and pay full price for a pre-season game they don’t want to go to!”

        • CanadaBear

          BASTARDS!

      • Ososfan

        I think it’s more of an NFL thing not exclusively with the Bears.

        • CanadaBear

          What a fucker! Basically pay double the list price for the real game and you get a POS exhibition game thrown in. Bastards!

    • Irish Sweetness

      Thanks man, but my jet-copter is broken.

      • evantonio

        how about your subma-truck?

        • MB30SD

          hahaha

  • Irish Sweetness

    Fucking no.

    • King of DBB

      Hell no.

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Mario Vetanze‏ @MileHighMario 17h17 hours ago

    Talked to a #Broncos rep today who said he “would be SHOCKED if Christian didn’t go top 10, the #Panthers are taking him at 8”
    #NFLDraft

    • MB30SD

      have fun with that. smh.

    • Ososfan

      Way too early. Wow.

    • Good teams are trying to pump up QBs and HBs so real value falls to them in the teens and beyond.

  • willbest

    I feel like this forum has become something of an Adams bubble. More than the last 3 years, I feel like this is a consensus. Then again, we haven’t drafted this high, and the draft dynamics are quite a bit different at 3 than they are at 11 or 17.

    • Ososfan

      I haven’t talked about the draft here for a while… Kinda. After Emery didn’t draft Chandler Jones I lost some hope…. Chanderler Jones man, I was kinda infatuated with us getting him as were alotnof guys here… Let’s hope Pace keeps hitting it out of the park…

      • CanadaBear

        But CD was just too attractive to pass up.

        • Bender McLugh

          MB will call you a c… in 3, 2, 1…..

          • MB30SD

            both of you dipshits are cunts.

          • King of DBB

            cackrings, cucumber heads, cocoa pebbles

          • Bender McLugh

            woohoo!

          • MB30SD

            you’re welcome

        • Ososfan

          Haha. My optimistic ass tried to look at anything postive with the dude, I so much as even defended him before he was known as CD. “Let’s trust, Phil fellas, he definitely, surely, has a plan after so much drafting experience…” Ugggh.

          • Bender McLugh

            you weren’t the only one….(looks in mirror)

    • Sahr Gborie

      Its hard not to talk about him when:
      1-you dont have faith in the QB class
      2-Hooker/Lattimore are injury prone
      3-Allen is broken
      4-Adams is the best option regarding BPA+NEED

      • Irish Sweetness

        1. The class is irrelevant. If Watson is there, he’s your guy.

        • MB30SD

          so bears.

          Pay a dude 18M then waste your first top 5 pick in yeeeears on some dude who’s never seen a pro offense and will probably die on the field (because he IS 100% RG IV)… that is in the 2nd or 3rd year after he’s drafted cause he’s damn well not ready to play this year by a long shot… and that’s even if we didn’t just buy glennon.

          Great pick!

          (and I say all this when I think he’s by far and away the best QB option in this draft)

        • Bender McLugh

          I hope Walter is correct and Bears are able to get Watson with the 2nd pick instead of wasting the first.

        • Sahr Gborie

          hell no. if he is not what you want you dont take him. thats called desperation. why waste a pick on a player you dont really see as your future? thats a bad as drafting one of these injury bums

    • Irish Sweetness

      He won’t draft Adams. Or either tweener. Or Lattimore.

      • willbest

        So you are on Watson or Howard?

  • Ososfan

    Can one of y’all answer how what Lynch and “The Raidas” management are doing is NOT considered tampering? I mean, if he does come out of retirement, he is still with the Seahawks……

    • Sahr Gborie

      Seahawks are ok with it. Its different when a player is retired and wants to come back. The team holding his rights (Seahwaks) said it was ok for him to talk to another team.

      • willbest

        Its not tampering if the Seahawks allow it. Lynch’s agent probably started the whole thing calling up the Seahawks GM saying Lynch is thinking about coming back, can he talk to other teams, and the Seahawks GM says “yeah, go talk to other teams”

    • CanadaBear

      If he played for the SeaSquawks this year they would owe him $9 mil. They are more than happy to make that trade.

    • Johnnywad

      Be cool if he runs one in from the 2 at the end of the game when the Raiders beat the Seahawks in the Super Bowl this year.

      “Like that Pete!”

  • MB30SD
    • King of DBB
      • MB30SD

        mmmmmmmm… booooobiiiiieeeeeessss!

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          such a pervert!

          • MB30SD

            jes

  • MB30SD

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/04/19/joe-mixon-high-school-assault-allegation

    Oh hell fucking no. If some fucking punk hit my daughter, I wouldn’t leave the fucking school until I either beat the little fuck to death, or they were taking him away in cuffs.

  • MB30SD

    “DaBearsBlog Retweeted Vincenzo
    No. But I’d love it if the Bears shocked the NFL and took McCaffrey.”

    Welp… Jeff’s officially lost his damn mind.

    • SC Dave

      McCaffrey will be very good. Not pick #3 good, but very good.

      • MB30SD

        TBD, def not @ 3

      • My question w him is if he could be a full time back or more of a Dion Lewis type.

    • Ososfan

      That’s a Phil Emery pick there….

  • Bender McLugh

    Walter now has Da Bears selecting Hooker. I wouldn’t be sad, as long as he’s healed up, but he won’t be by draft time right? Hmmm…..

    http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2017.php

    • MB30SD

      they are fools. Pace can’t afford another injury risk. If he picks Allen, Lattimore, or Hooker, he’s either a moron… or he doesn’t give a fuck about this gig or how people see him for his next gig.

      • Bender McLugh

        I think Walter is on the sauce

      • Sahr Gborie

        what next gig?

        • MB30SD

          he’ll get another shot regardless.

          • willbest

            GM’s usually don’t

    • Bender McLugh

      AND he has them picking Watson at #32…..?!??!?

    • Sahr Gborie

      why are some people ok with taking a broken player when they would not buy a brand new car from the dealership if the transmission was broken or something was broke?

      • Bender McLugh

        Jeezus, wait…what

    • Been saying it from the start. Adams is that juicy steak from pricey steakhouse. Know what ur buying.
      Hooker is that crazy japanese-french fusion dish which can go horribly wrong or be the greatest thing since sliced bread. It’s up to Pace’s risk tolerance which seems pretty high in the 1st rd.
      Floyd was actually a ballsier pick than White, so Pace won’t be timid going forward.
      And Data accurately pointed out how Adam’s other combine stats don’t jump out, and we all know Pace loves him some SPARQ freaks.

      • Sahr Gborie

        I want to know what im getting. Give me the steak from the pricey steak house. No funny business

  • MB30SD

    Jeff, where’s your bears mock?

    Come on dooood. throw it out there!

    • willbest

      He still has a week.

    • He won’t do one. Jeff will pick an unheralded white guy pace should draft…McCafffrey?

  • willbest

    I wonder if there is anything plugged into an electrical outlet in my house that isn’t spying on me anymore.

    http://www.zdnet.com/article/bose-accused-of-tracking-and-sharing-customer-listening-data-report/

    • Bender McLugh

      not for years

  • MB30SD

    DUDE!?!?!? WTF!?!?!?

    When the fuck did this happen!?? (I mean I can see the date, but didn’t hear a damn thing!)

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/charlie-murphy-laid-to-rest-comedians-pay-their-respects/ar-BBA4GVW?li=BBnbfcL

  • MB30SD
  • BerwynBomber
  • AlbertInTucson

    So, Tiger Woods just had Back Surgery #4.

    I am betting this one has nothing to do with helping his golf game and everything to do with letting him be able to bend over and tie his shoes.

    • CanadaBear

      Hope it helps him and he never plays again. You know that would not end well. Nothing against the guy, he’s paid a high price for being a horn dog.

      • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

        A good back is necessary to successfully carry out being a horn dog.

        Golf career is over but once a horn dog always a horn dog.

    • BearDown100393

      4 back surgeries ain’t a big deal. Draft him.

      – Bears Scouting Department

  • Sahr Gborie

    DeShone Kizer: I have Tom Brady’s brain in Cam Newton’s body

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/20/deshone-kizer-i-have-tom-bradys-brain-in-cam-newtons-body/

    Kids got big stones man. Very big stones

    on another note Colts sign Jon Bostic

    • BearDown100393

      Kizer is full of himself.

      • Sahr Gborie

        Seems that way. But what happens if he lives up to his own hype?

        • King of DBB

          GOAT!!!!!!!!!

          He’ll be the Johnny Bench of football.

    • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

      He will fall worse than Geno Smith.

    • SC Dave

      Big stones, but small brain.

      Which would you prefer in a QB?

      • Favre, Bradshaw, Marino…not exactly brain surgeons.
        Hey, there’s actually a rocket scientist qb in this draft! Forgot his name

        • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

          Josh Dobbs. Aerospace engineer.

  • Sahr Gborie
    • BearDown100393

      Rocky fought Drago on Christmas. The Bears get Cleveland.

      • We’ve been playing the Browns in 4rth ps game for years!
        ‘suck for sam’ bowl

        • BearDown100393

          That’s our Super Bowl.

          • MB30SD

            hee hee

        • SC Dave

          You can do better…

          Scam for Sam
          Sham for Sam

          …. or…

          Fold for Darnold.

          Edit: btw, I’d be stunned if thats not out there already, but if not…

          • MB30SD

            good last one dave!

      • willbest

        I think the NFL is hoping that game will be for the #1 draft pick in 2018.

      • Sahr Gborie

        Who is going to stop M.Garrett?

    • willbest

      Saturday game at Detroit… I am inclined to go to that.

    • Bears don’t play a team who had a losing record til…Oct?
      That seems like a tough opening act.

      • BearDown100393

        Pace saw the schedule in advance. And got himself a giraffe.
        #1 pick baby.

    • willbest

      Falcons 11-5 (NFCC)
      Bucs 9-7
      Steelers 11-5 (AFCC losers)
      Vikings 8-8
      Ravens 8-8
      Panthers 6-10….

      So 5 weeks before we play a team with a losing record

      • If we can stay at.500 till the bye, it’ll be a minor miracle.
        After that get GB at home and SB run begins!

      • on the flip side, lots of teams that don’t look too good after the bye. 8 games against a lot of teams that appear to be good, week off, then 8 games against a lot of teams that don’t appear to be very good.

        Perfect time to insert rookie QB as the starter and build towards the future.

        • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

          Mike Glennon is a much, much better drop back pocket passer than any kid in this draft including your so called top 4 or 5.

          The kids have a long way to go before they can even come close to matching Glennon, let alone surpass him.

          Pace ain’t stupid. He saw all of these qbs last year and paid Glennon $$ to lock him down. He did n’t want to be in a position to get stuck with one of these kids.

          • SC Dave

            I think I believe this.

          • Glennon might be better now (and even that is debatable), but this is about the future, not winning in 2017. Especially after the bye if you’re out of playoff contention.

            The odds of a guy like Glennon turning into a long term + solution at QB are very low. It might happen, but I’m not counting on it.

            The odds of a highly drafted rookie turning into the long term + solution at QB are still not great, but higher. After 8 games of Glennon, the most likely outcome is we’ve seen enough to know he’s nothing more than a stopgap. No point in playing a stopgap down the stretch of a lost year when you have younger developmental options on the roster.

            Maybe Glennon plays great and proves me wrong. I’d love it if that happens. Maybe (more likely) Fox sticks with the safer mediocre vet instead of letting the rookie take his lumps. That would piss me off.

          • King of DBB

            After 8 games of Glennon, the most likely outcome is we’ve seen enough to know he’s nothing more than a stopgap.

            That shit be negative, bro. Sit yo ass down and chill. We goin’ 14-2 slipdog, and riding the Foxy wave of Justice. You feel me?

          • Sahr Gborie

            In what multiverse?

          • MB30SD

            no, not really.

          • Sahr Gborie

            Fox will play the vet and lose his job in the process.

          • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

            The rookie has to earn it. He is not going to be handed the job just because he is high draft pick.

            The same thing happened with Geno Smith. The Jets were eager to hand over the reins to Geno Smith and bench Sanchez. Smith could not beat Sanchez during training camp. Finally, they let Sanchez play behind 3rd string OL and promptly got knocked out for the year. Geno Smith got his chance and the rest is history.

            You can insert a rookie because you want to prove you made a good decision. But if the rook is not clearly better than the veteran, it hurts the rookie as much as the team.

          • Sahr Gborie

            Fox had to be in on the signing of Glennon. Leads me to project that they go defense in Rd1. Possibly defense in Rd2 & 3 as well barring an OT they cant pass up. Lights out defense can help you make a playoff run

          • He doesn’t have to be better than, he has to be not worse than. There’s a significant difference there.

            If it’s anywhere close, the tie goes to the rookie. Or it should in a lost year.

            It’s also difficult to tell some aspects in practice, which is why you let him get some game experience in the 2nd half of his rookie year. That will give you (and him) the ability to better evaluate and grow in his first NFL offseason.

          • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

            You are not being realistic. 8 games in, Glennon would have just established some rapport with the offense and learned the playbook. Unless he is Matt Barkley level bad, John Fox is not going to replace him with a rook. For $15 million, he is getting his shot for the full season. And even if he is bad or gets hurt, Sanchez will get the next shot. I know you don’t like it but this is the John Fox will operate. He is the head coach until Pace fires him.

          • John Fox isn’t going to do it. It’s very likely that John Fox should (depending on how the 1st 8 games play out).

            Those facts are not mutually exclusive. Tracy Porter shouldn’t have seen the field after the bye last year, but he did. Same for Mitch Unrein. Because Fox loves his mediocre vets that are safer than much higher upside rookies, even in a lost season where playing the vets has zero purpose.

            It’s one of the reasons why this is probably going to be Fox’s last season in Chicago.

          • MB30SD

            fred glennon is our quarterback

          • SC Dave

            None of us are counting on it. Just like no Pats fans were counting on Brady.

      • SC Dave

        That Panthers record was, I predict, anomalous.

        We will find out how we stack up against NFC South by game 8, since we will have played them all

      • Sahr Gborie

        Basically we are picking in the top 5 again

      • AlbertInTucson

        Everybody is .500 in week 1.

        So many variables before September.

        Nobody knows who will come out of pre-season with a pronounced limp.

        What draft picks are hits? Which ones are busts?

        Matt Ryan had a great season with Kyle Shanahan as his OC.

        Shanahan is now in SF.

        Maybe that doesn’t bother Ryan. Maybe it does.

        Last season the Bears were supposed to benefit from playing against rookie QBs.

        Guess not.

        Here’s what I think you can predict for this season based on last season’s records in the NFL.

        Nothing.

        • willbest

          Bears have a long history of making rookie QB’s look like they are ready for the cover of Madden though.

          • AlbertInTucson

            No argument. But looking at the schedule and saying they “…don’t play a losing team until…l” is overreaching conjecture at this point in time.

            Who thought the Panthers would be 6-10 last season?

            Who thought Atlanta would go from 8-8 in 2015 to the Super Bowl last year?

  • King of DBB

    “Name a college quarterback who goes into the game-plan meetings on Monday and throws his notes at the coaches,” Kizer said. “No one else game plans the way I do. I take my notes on a legal pad and I wad it up and slap the coaches across the face with it. And they thank me for it. They say, ‘Thank you Deshone, we needed that and we are going to shape up and listen to what you have to say.’ No one else prepares the way I do. No one else knows football the way I do. On Gruden’s show, he would take notes from me. I would be showing him film and he would just sit there in a puddle of his own sweat. I am very powerful and the ladies have no complaints. No one else is as big as I am. Huge. I am huge. Length and girth both. I am going to father more children than Johnny Waffle. No one else is as powerful a runner as I am. I am Notre Dame powerful. Knute Rockne would get down on one knee and kiss my ring if he were alive today. Pat Mahomes might throw the ball 80 yards and I can only throw the ball 72, but I guarantee he can’t throw an out route the way I can. I motherfucking guarantee it, like that Cajun chef used to say about his grits. I am a heartbreaker and a game taker. No one else can do what I can do. Most importantly, I am very very humble. And I’ve truly figured out in this process, if I can maximize all my potential in every aspect of the game – this is bold, like A1 Steak Sauce with some Insanity sauce tossed in to spice it right – I do have the ability to be the greatest quarterback to ever play. I mean you may as well call Kay Jewelers and have my GOAT chain made up now. Every kiss begins with K? Fuck that, every championship begins with K. As in Kizer. Imagine taking Brady’s intellect and Brady’s preparation and putting it on a guy with Cam Newton’s body. Women will be throwing their panties at me from the seats. It will legendary like Gladiator and I will entertain them all. All of them! I will be the Roman Emperor of the NFL. Why can’t I be the greatest? Ali great. I will be like Ali standing over Liston, except I will be knocking out the Lombardi trophy again and again. The only thing stopping me from it is me. And I cannot be stopped. I am single handedly going to make America great again. That’s what’s driving me now.” -Kizer

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/20/deshone-kizer-i-have-tom-bradys-brain-in-cam-newtons-body/

    • SC Dave

      Editorial license granted. Glorious fake news!

      • Sahr Gborie

        It’s real Dave. I was laughing my ass off. But I love his confidence

        • willbest

          The last couple sentences aren’t, but they might as well have been because that is how I would envision an alternate reality Trump coming up for the draft.

        • SC Dave

          GP embellished masterfully

    • Tortured Bear fan

      and none is as humble as he is

    • Sahr Gborie

      The draft will humble him worse than it did Geno.

      • willbest

        Rodgers used it as fuel.

        • Sahr Gborie

          True. Let’s hope he falls to us in the second. I’m ok with that.

    • MB30SD

      Bahahahaha… have fun with that rd 2 pick up kid.

      dickhead.

  • Tortured Bear fan

    Guys, If Foster or Cook are aviable in round 2, would you consider anyone of them? I´ll roll the dices on Foster.

    • willbest

      Are you talking about the best LB in the draft that will be gone by 12?

      • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

        Not any more.He is going to fall big time.

        Alabama ILB Reuben Foster failed his Combine drug test.
        Foster’s sample was diluted, which counts as a failed test. He’s now in the league’s substance-abuse program. Foster claims he failed the test because he was extremely ill and taking in an exceptional amount of fluids. This adds to a nightmare Combine for Foster, who was sent home after getting into an altercation with a hospital worker. Foster is recovering from shoulder surgery. Foster is an elite talent, but could fall to Day 2 because of his growing off-the-field concerns.

        • Sahr Gborie

          Post the link. Thanks

        • Absolutely take him in the 2nd.
          However if we don’t draft a cb or s in the 1st, have to take a long look at Buddha or BPA cb

        • Sahr Gborie

          injury+character issue+substance issue = pass unless he is bpa on your board. I would rather take Budda Barker or Kevin King if they are still on the board

        • Ososfan

          So much talent but soooo stupid…

    • Sahr Gborie

      Foster. Yes. If no good CB/Safety are available

      Cook. No. We have J.Howard. Too high to take a RB.

      Fix the defense in the 1st 3 rounds

      • Irish Sweetness

        Foster’s built like a safety. Where are you playing that?

    • MB30SD

      So bears to pass and then the bengals take him and he turns into a pain in the ass, but a pro bowler many years to come.

      FUCK YES YOU TAKE HIM!!!

      Watch. The. Tape.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPgiyYDKQe8

      • Sahr Gborie

        pace wants savages without th baggage: k.long is the perfect example. thats why fuller is pissing him off

      • leftcoast dave

        Time out. The human torpedo leads with his hade, dude. How many concussions have they admitted to? Wonder why his mouf disconnects from da brain?

        Yea, watch the tape and add up the targeting calls and concussions to come.

      • Tortured Bear fan

        Mannn, how I wish bears would be dealing with that problem.

  • King of DBB

    Schedule just released

    Sept. 10 vs. Falcons
    Sept. 17 at Buccaneers
    Sept. 24 vs. Steelers
    Sept. 28 at Packers (Thursday night)
    Oct. 9 vs. Vikings
    Oct. 15 at Ravens
    Oct. 22 vs. Panthers
    Oct. 29 at Saints
    Nov. 5 BYE WEEK
    Nov. 12 vs. Packers
    Nov. 19 vs.Lions
    Nov. 26 at Eagles
    Dec. 3 vs. 49ers
    Dec. 10 at Bengals
    Dec. 16 vs. Lions (Saturday night)
    Dec. 24 vs. Browns (Christmas Eve)
    Dec. 31 at Vikings (New Year’s Eve)

    Think the Falcons might have a chip on their shoulder on opening day? Holy shit is that going to be a beatdown and a statement game right out of the gate.

    • Sahr Gborie

      L – Sept. 10 vs. Falcons
      L – Sept. 17 at Buccaneers
      L – Sept. 24 vs. Steelers
      L – Sept. 28 at Packers (Thursday night)
      W – Oct. 9 vs. Vikings
      L – Oct. 15 at Ravens
      W – Oct. 22 vs. Panthers
      W – Oct. 29 at Saints
      Nov. 5 BYE WEEK
      W – Nov. 12 vs. Packers
      W – Nov. 19 vs.Lions
      L – Nov. 26 at Eagles
      W – Dec. 3 vs. 49ers
      W – Dec. 10 at Bengals
      W – Dec. 16 vs. Lions (Saturday night)
      W – Dec. 24 vs. Browns (Christmas Eve)
      W – Dec. 31 at Vikings (New Year’s Eve)

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        WRONG! 16-0

        • SC Dave

          No. 15-1. We lose to Cleveland just for humility leading into the playoffs.

          • MB30SD

            Chargers style!

            Why the fuck not

      • BerwynBomber

        Both ATL and TB could be winnable. I’m less sure of beating NO on the road or the Cheese period.

        P.S. ATL should be the second or third best team in the NFC after DAL and SEA, BUT it is W1, we’re at home, they epically gagged the SB, Shanahan the younger is gone, etc., etc.

        • willbest

          I would hope that Glennon having lived in the NFCS for the last 4 years would have a fairly decent understanding of all those teams. I don’t expect it to be a key to victory, but it should be a thumb on the scale.

          • BerwynBomber

            Hard to say. Cutty played GB and DET for years and it didn’t seem to help

            But one would hope Glennon would know TB’s tendencies fairly well.

          • CanadaBear

            Cutler was decent against the Loins early in the rivalry. Not so much at the end.

          • BerwynBomber

            Fair point. I sold Cutty a bit short vs. DET. We had such a bad record against them recently that it warped my perspective. Looks like he was about average against them overall. Wonder what his stats/record was against MIN.

          • Sahr Gborie

            cutty was cutty. they knew what to expect from him. glennon is an unknown. hopefully a positive unknown for us

          • Irish Sweetness

            Unknown? He’s 5-13 as a starter, dude. At least Cutty was .500.

          • BerwynBomber

            He was a rookie playing with a crap team. What was Cutler’s record the last three years?

          • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

            Learning from mistakes and improving, being a keen student of the game etc. was not Jay Cutler’s thing. He was too cool for that.

            Cutler played worst against GB. The pressure of the rivalry and going up against Rodgers got him. Dom Capers owned his ass. Charles Woodson, whenever he gets into hall of fame, should dedicate his speech to Jay Cutler.

          • MB30SD

            Hall too. Shit, half the starting DBs in the nfl.

            hee hee

          • BerwynBomber

            In fairness to Woodson, he didn’t require Cutler’s assistance to reach the HoF. Dude was pretty much a five-tool CB, if such a thing has ever existed.

          • MB30SD

            as much as I hate that packer cunt, and think he SUCKS as a broadcaster… he was a very bad bad man on a football field. He gets my full props.

          • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

            Agreed, i was exaggerating. Charles Woodson was a special player..an athletic freak.

            I was at the Big House when Woodson made a spectacular one-handed INT against Michigan State. Think it was 97. Michigan went on to win Rose Bowl that year with Brian Griese at qb.

          • Sahr Gborie

            exactly. putting faith in glennon and his knowledge of the south

        • Sahr Gborie

          their defense is not as good as ours. plus im basing our wins on having J.Adams in the back

      • MB30SD

        wow, POSITIVE!!!

        I’m going with:
        L
        W
        L
        L
        W
        L
        L
        W
        W
        L
        L
        W
        W
        L
        W
        L

        • SC Dave

          Fuck that… I’m going

          W
          W
          W
          W
          W
          W
          W
          W
          W
          W
          W
          W
          W
          W
          L
          W

          Lose to Cleveland to keep humble, and know every game is up for grabs. To start on the road to play in 10 SB in a row. Winning 7 (or more). So that Glennon is just like Otto Graham.

          And Howard can be his Jim Brown.

          • MB30SD

            ease the fuck back on the IPAs big boy. yeesh! hahaha

      • CanadaBear

        Wish I shared your enthusiasm. I could see losses in one or both before the bye. Also, Cincy on the road, not so much. And beating the BiQueens twice next year, not feeling it. So that’s 3-4 more losses than you’ve got. Hope you’re correct.

        • MB30SD

          I’m in at around 7-9 max right now canada

      • leftcoast dave

        5-3 going into the bye week. 5-3 after the bye week. 10-6 and playoff bound!

        • MB30SD

          you need to get your head outta that hot desert sun Dave. It’s starting to have an effect.

          • leftcoast dave

            Bring back most of the injured players, add the FA pickups and what comes out of the draft and I see a top notch D-fence!

            The O-line is better than it has been in how many years? Yea, K-Long keep the fingers crossed, but add that big arsed TE from FA?

            Glenny gonna do it, dudes. Might have more punts, but that will still be better field position than fumbles and interceptions!

            Run, Jordan, run! Stack that box to play action!

            Future’s so bright, I gotta wear shades!

          • MB30SD

            yeah, I see the possibilities dave, I do. It’s all just a big TBD for me cause, you know… I’ve finally come to realize I can’t always be positive and have my hopes crushed erra season. We gots to be good consistently at some fucking point.

          • Irish Sweetness

            There’s no future at QB in that scenario Dave.

            We have to pull that trigger at three and ignore the minor roles.

            No, they won’t start on day one. But they’ll start some day.

    • BuddhaJoe

      Thing is we got crippled by injuries last year. Every one of those games is winnable on paper, but they could choke every one of them away too. I really have no idea this year.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Just dates, brother. Dates and names. We get to win on Christmas eve, fuck it.

      We’re in the business of building a dynasty – hope springs eternal – and that all starts with the QB.

  • willbest

    “I see three first round stars. Solomon Thomas. OJ Howard. Christian
    McCaffrey. Several other guys I like too but those 3 are special.” – Jeff

    Was Garrett overlooked or did he do something stupid like Foster? And where did this McCaffrey love come from? Did he do a 4.4 40 with a school bus tied around his waist at his pro-day or something?

    • MB30SD

      jeff has gone full on Irish on us man.

      Christian. Fucking. MCaffrey.

      Jeff, you NEVER go full Irish… everyone knows that man

      • Irish Sweetness

        Dalvin if we pass on Fournette. Man if he was there top of the third? You couldn’t pass.

    • SC Dave

      McCaffrey love comes from the film. Go watch some. He *will* be a star.

      • leftcoast dave

        I completely agree he will be a game changer and wish we had fewer needs to be able to get him. With Rogers he could gain 3000 yards in one season. That is, if he don’t get squashed like a gnat. But that kid is Special.

      • MB30SD

        : /

    • Irish Sweetness

      What a chode. Fournette’s just a bum? Watson might be Russell. They’ve already proved they’re special.

      • MB30SD

        R.G.I.V.

        • Irish Sweetness

          If RGIII was rated 15X+ every year of three years then I might demur. If he was tossing TDs 3-1 ratio, then I might cry caution.

          But if it looks like a stud, plays like a stud, gets statted up like a stud …

          • MB30SD

            Sigh

  • MB30SD
    • CanadaBear

      Alonzo Spellman.

  • MB30SD

    hey kids… here’s a tip re: how to peel bananas, guess we’ve all been doing it wrong all along.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddrink/tipsandtricks/youve-been-peeling-bananas-wrong-your-whole-life/ar-BBtePJm?li=BBnb7Kw

    Me personally, I prefer this method: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaHaTJ_kqQc

  • MB30SD
    • SC Dave

      I’ll check it soon. Right now eating scantily cooking cow flesh and fungus (mushrooms) on the side.
      #mmmpaleo

      • MB30SD

        well done

      • leftcoast dave

        Oooo, yea, fun guy and barely dead cow.

      • SC Dave

        Goddamn it, we MUST draft this kid.

    • Irish Sweetness

      If Watson’s gone, Thayer and Irish are on board with that.

      But I’ll offer you Watson and Budda/Obi. Totally different bodies and fits. But how about it?

      Your franchise QB …. AND a safety.

      Boom! and BOOM!

      • MB30SD

        Clemson has been my college team since the 80s… I liked their unis.

        So I tend to watch them. I’ve seen a lot of Watson… Full games… The last 2 years yo.

        I think he’s a great athlete and a very good college QB with guts grit and leadership.

        I honestly and truly think he’s an rg3 in the pros, not a dak. That’s my honest thought after watching about 7 full games of him over the last 2 years.

        I hope he does well for someone, but it’ll take a while and if he doesn’t completely change his style of play he’ll be injured very quickly.

        If he’s there in the 2nd pace should take a flyer, but @ #3… Hell no. That’s waaaaay too huge a risk.

        (And I’m not even bringing up the non NFL offense, talent around him that made him better, etc…)

  • MB30SD

    http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/235535/2017-nfl-schedule-predicted-records-for-all-32-nfl-teams#NFC N

    dickerson is a fucking cockbag. That said, I tend to think his record prediction isn’t too far off.

    • willbest

      Apparently we are 5.5 point home dogs despite not having drafted yet.

    • Ososfan

      Fuck Dickerson

      • King of DBB

        in the face. THE FACE!

        • MB30SD
        • Ososfan

          GP here in NYC he speaks a couple of times on ESPN and he finds every Damn opportunity to bash the Bears, I’ve tried sooooo many times to call in and just curse him the fuck out. Don’t know why heovers the Bears, smh. He used to be all righht.

  • Joecashflow

    Just saw 2017 schedule. We got a lock on 2 wins.

    • MB30SD

      Hahahaha

    • Irish Sweetness

      That’s all we need, if you think about it.

  • Bender McLugh

    Damn. Blackhawks looking old against the Preds. First game I’ve been able to see, they really don’t look comfortable at all.

    • AlbertInTucson

      They now have all summer to rest up.

      SMH.

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    The Rich Eisen Show
    Alabama TE OJ Howard Talks NFL Draft & More – 4/20/17
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm8ItaAfOXc

  • BerwynBomber

    Who would have thought the Bulls would look decidedly better in the post-season than the Blackhawks? Wow …

    • Ososfan

      So upsetting, couldn’t care less about the bulls! Lol

  • King of DBB

    The Dick walks the season through, game by game – beyond what MB posted

    http://www.espn.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4705383/2017-chicago-bears-game-by-game-predictions

    At week 8, he has the Bears at 1-7. The Tribune will be howling at that point. The idiots at the Score will be calling for every head there is. The fans will be ready to burn it all down again. Jeff will start blogging about his favorite putting greens.

    • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

      If it is headed towards 6-10, I would rather they take a few losses more and get a top pick. One less win is sometimes the difference between a Leonard Williams or Kevin White.

      I think the best they can do is 8-8. Hard to see wins beyond that.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Without knowing what happens in the draft, and they’re tossing out records. I don’t get it. Plus everyone’s assuming Pace is thinking defense when he might think he needs Watson.
      Everyone’s assuming either Glennon’s going to shit the bed, or be great in that offense.

      We have no idea.

      We will be better than 3-13, though. Oh yes. We will be better than 3-13.

  • MB30SD
    • King of DBB

      Speaking of… my son has become something of a Bond fan like his dad.

      So he picked this up at the comic shop

      https://www.amazon.com/James-Bond-Eidolon-Warren-Ellis/dp/1524102725

      Kids are in bed and I just read it and it was pretty damn good. The Bond is pretty Archer, but also pretty Fleming. The story is very gritty (and not for kids, but my son really likes it and I guess given how bloody Batman is, it’s just how it is now) and would make an excellent film, if they were willing to truly step away from the Craig Bond and do a different tone.

      • MB30SD

        interesting.

  • madscout12

    O.J Howard is gonna be Jason Witten 2.0. Jamal Adams is gonna be a safety in this league for 8 or so years. We need a guy like that.

    • Irish Sweetness

      (Groundhog Day)

      And we also need a QB, more than anything. Ever. Always.

      Jesus, I can’t do this anymore. Just draft a guy already.

  • Irish Sweetness

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8OAnwiffIU

    Bears All-Access.

    Thayer is on board with Watson if he’s there. Adams if he’s not. Natch.

    Interesting though, Cleveland want a QB but they want Garrett too. The 12 pick is totally up for grabs, Howard fans.

    Mentioned Obi too. I’m on board. If you can play him like a fielder, he’s got just a huge catch radius. He might be there at 36. Baker would be nice, but he’s no freak. Watson and Obi would be interesting. Maybe an OT in the third.

  • Ososfan

    Don’t remember if I asked this before: “Aren’t you all a little pissed that a bunch of our position coaches left for either, the same job on a different team or downgraded to coach college?” Has to say something is kind of a mock. PLUS. WHY DID WE NOT HIRE HOF KEVIN GREENE to be our OLB coach?!

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