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Making the Case: Malik Hooker, S, Ohio State

| April 14th, 2017

Any pass thrown in Malik Hooker’s general direction has a good chance to be intercepted. Do I really need to say more than that?

He has better range than any safety I’ve seen coming out of the draft and showed incredible hands in his one season at Ohio State. According to Pro Football Focus, 41 passes were thrown to guys he was covering. He either intercepted or defended 11 of them. He returned three interceptions for touchdowns while only giving up one score himself. His interception against Clemson was one of the best plays you will ever see a safety make.

For the Bears, that could be huge. They play in a division where two of the quarterbacks — Sam Bradford and Aaron Rodgers — avoid putting the ball in harm’s way at all costs. With Hooker on the field, the ball would almost always be in harm’s way if they threw near him.

Injuries & Inexperience

Hooker played only one season at OSU and had two surgeries, including one for a torn labrum in his hip. Perhaps he’ll recover 100 percent, but he’s on the small side so I don’t think it’s irrational to be concerned about his ability to hold up.

As good as he is against the pass, he tends to miss quite a few tackles and takes some really bad angles. I’m not sure he’s better in that area than Chris Conte. He’s not going to step into the box and be effective, nor would any team want him to, but it could limit his team’s defense.

The positional value stuff detailed for Jamal Adams exists for Hooker too, of course. He’d be the sixth-highest paid safety in the league, based off of one year of collegiate production and after a fairly significant surgery.

Overview

The biggest difference between Adams and Hooker is upside. I think Adams is going to be a very good player for a long time. Hooker just might be a special, generational talent. But the bust factor is also higher.

What I don’t know and can’t really speculate about is health. Hooker should be ready to go by the start of the season, but hip surgery for a defensive back is scary to me.

If the medicals check out, I’m all for the Bears picking him third. Takeaways are so important and he can essentially erase an entire chunk of the field.

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  • SC Dave

    First there was Kevin White. Second there is… Malik Hooker?

    • MB30SD

      Ed Zachary. No way pace does this.

    • Sahr Gborie

      Pace is not that stupid. Trade Back. J.Adams. OJ Howard.

      Anything else and his job is on the line along with Fox

  • The Yes Guy

    YES

  • Saruman for America 2020 PAC

    Completely off-topic, but I wanted to ask…

    Irish, you’re in Thailand, right? Teaching? Teaching English? My nephew is considering teaching ESL abroad: any advice you can share?

    • CanadaBear

      If you bang the locals, wear a condom. Or get a vasectomy.

      • MB30SD

        Hahaha, you immediately took it there.

        • CanadaBear

          For some reason I love to fuck with Irish. He’s really the only reg I fuck with. I’m glad he doesn’t get really mad at me. It’s all in fun. As you well know, you fuck with the people you like. You ignore the ones you don’t. BTW, how ya feeling today?

          • MB30SD

            Yup

          • CanadaBear

            How ya feeling today?

          • MB30SD

            Little better thanks. Haven’t put anything in my mouth to eat/drink since about 3 yesterday. Thirsty and weak. Hahaha

          • CanadaBear

            I’m sure you know this but don’t fuck around and get re-hydrated. You can seriously get your electrolytes out of whack after food poisoning.

          • MB30SD

            Yep. On it now. Thanks canada

      • DaCoaches Mustache

        In Thailand first check for a dick

        • CanadaBear

          Indeed! When I was working with a bunch of cops being the money man for a music festival 30 years ago, they told me a riotous story about one of their fellow cops who they didn’t really like getting hooked up with a tranny. Apparently the cop was super bombed and had no idea. Needless to say the cops let it play out!

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Is it wrong that I would let that happen to someone I liked?

          • CanadaBear

            Kinda! Depends on how good of a friend. If it was a good friend, I would let it play out for a little while just so you could ride your pal about it for the rest of his life but at some point I would tell them. If it wasn’t a good friend and I wasn’t worried about them beating me up or killing me, I would so let it play out!

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I guess I am an asshole, cuz I would let it happen to my best friend.

          • CanadaBear

            I’ve probably got 20 years on ya + I wouldn’t be drinking. If I was still drinking 20 years ago it could have gone either way. Unfortunately that also means I might have been stinking drunk and getting the tranny action. Just to give you some idea how bad I was when I was hammered.

          • willbest

            Depends on the friend. A social awkward one, kind of on the spectrum. The guy you know would be genuinely hurt by all the shit he would get, I would stop. My best friend. The guy that pulled up pegging porn on my computer and left a strap -on on my desk when he knew I was bringing my GF back to our place for sex…. I might have been the one to pay the hooker in the first place.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            HAHAHAHA!!!! Pegging porn and a strap-on. Your friend is a GENIUS!!!

        • Johnnywad

          Hahahaha. That’s an awkward first move but has to be done.

          • CanadaBear

            Since J Geils just passed the other day (May he R.I.P.) here’s a little tribute. Just change purse with dick.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip7wwUre4mc

          • Johnnywad

            Hahahaha. Love it. I’ve never even heard that song.

          • CanadaBear

            The lead singer was married to Faye Dunaway for a while. Let that sink in!

          • SC Dave

            It’s a Smokey Robinson/Bobby Rodgers song originally done by The Contours in 1965.

            Motown, dontcha know!

          • Johnnywad

            Good stuff

          • CanadaBear

            They liked remaking Soul records. Looking for a Love by Bobby Womack might be their biggest hit. Gotta admit, I much prefer Bobby Womack’s version. Here’s a tasty rendition from back in the day.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTQ4vgW6-tA

    • Irish Sweetness

      Ajarn.com. Everything he needs is on there. All kinds of teaching jobs and important info on all manner of things.

      If he wants to make money …he’ll need some form of teaching degree, and a bachelor’s at the least. Certificates are fine. If he wants to make serious money to save, then it’s Japan or China.

      Weed is free in Yunnan province a Chinese friend told me. There’s that much of it. Legal and everything. It’s free.

      If he wants trim though … Thailand. For starters.

  • Big Mike

    Oh no… We are not taking an injury risk at 3. Sorry.. Can’t have it.

    • MB30SD

      Yeeep

    • CanadaBear

      100%

    • Bender McLugh

      boooo

      • Big Mike

        I can’t listen to reports for the next decade about this draft pick going into the long list of 1st round blah picks. And yes. Boo Hoo…

        • Bender McLugh

          the boohoo was an autocorrect, was booing the injury not you my man!

          • CanadaBear

            I thought that seemed a little out of place from you. Although, we all have our moments!!!!!!

          • Big Mike

            Thought you were giving me the business.

          • Bender McLugh

            heh no way man, thought I caught it in time

    • Sahr Gborie

      Who are you hoping for?

      • Big Mike

        I’m a big fan of Jamal Adams. The BIG gamble is DeShaun Watson. If Pace pulls the trigger on that guy, I’m all in for it. Just trusting Pace and knowing how huge it is to find a guy like that. It’s about my 5th favorite move. I have two dream scenarios. Myles Garret falls to us. Or we are able to trade back (not likely), get Adams and pick up a 2nd. In the 2nd I love Garret Bowles the OT from UT, but I don’t like him at 36. I’m hoping we can either pick up an extra 2nd, trade back from 36 and pick up a 3rd or 4th and still get him.

        I wouldn’t be against taking Adams and another DB. Unfortunately the Bears have so many needs, there are just a ton of options to get better.

        What I really hope for are 10 year starter that makes a few bowls each.

        • leftcoast dave

          Without a trade down (best option) I think it’s best DL/Edge on the board, likely Soloman Thomas. A trade or two down would be the wet dream leading to potentially six good impact player options in the first, second and third rounds, even giving a chance to move that high fourth up ahead of the compensatories..

          • Big Mike

            Not even close. We have DL/Edge rushers that are NFL caliber. Our safeties suck ass. This class has great safeties. Don’t be locked into the “you can’t take a safety at three mentality”. Even if we got another Leonard Floyd caliber guy, we didn’t improve our team as much as if we took Adams. It’s about net gain.

  • CanadaBear

    If the Beloved draft this guy and he bears a striking resemblance to Kevin White, Pace will be looking for work. That really is the only scenario where I see Pace getting fired (unless he loses his mind and does something crazy like piss off the McCaskey’s).

    • MB30SD

      Yep. He IS Kevin White… Just on the opposite side.

      – One year freak talent wonder
      – Massive upside
      – Little raw at some disciplines
      – But his injuries are serious and are already known

      Pace just can’t gamble on that again. Like you said, not with one already in his pocket and his gig on the line

    • Tortured Bear fan

      Ryan doesn´t have the luxury and the time to pick a risk, it´s a run among Adams, Howard and Thomas.

      • CanadaBear

        Unless he goes QB. Not my first choice for sure but of the top ones I’d take Watson.

        • Tortured Bear fan

          I´m worried about picking a QB at first with all defense talent this year. if so, Watson MUST start from day one, less than that Pace would have dig is own grave.

          • SC Dave

            Disagree. Play Glennon regardless and let Watson learn to be a pro for a year.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            screw that make them battle it out. If he beats out Glennon, so be it.

          • willbest

            Why are people talking like Watson is going to be on our team, is he really falling to 36?

          • Tortured Bear fan

            Garrett, Adams or Howard provides the safest floor and can contribute immediately. about Watson…. perhaps you are right Dave but I´m not optimist picking a QB so early unless he is Mariotta, Wiston or Luck.

  • CanadaBear

    Here ya go, MB. Not exactly gorgeous but I think you will appreciate two of her assets.

    https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/photos/2015/07/03/lindsey-pelas-lovely-lady-day

    • Governerd
      • MB30SD

        Ok, I don’t believe in science any more.

        How in God’s green world of physics did those stay in that “shirt”?!?!

        Science is a sham… The king is dead

        • CanadaBear

          Careful editing (the bastards).

          • MB30SD

            Yeah exactly. Philistines!!

        • willbest

          tape

      • CanadaBear

        Well that beat the shit out of my link!

        • MB30SD

          There are some seriously great shots from your link. Those are all natural. She was truly blessed

          And she’s done playboy. May 2014… I bet those nipples are glooooorious!

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        what just happened…..where am I? damn. make sure you turn off auto repeat when watching this video, it will put you in a hypnotic trance.

    • BearDown100393

      1st rounder

      • MB30SD

        top 3 pick

  • willbest

    The angle on the photo is designed to hide her manjaw

  • Irish Sweetness

    Next.

    Watching ‘Unforgiven’ in HD now.

    It was time for some Clint. William Munny. Yessir.

    • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

      One of all time favorite movies. Clint, Gene Hackman and Morgan Freeman were great.

    • CanadaBear

      I watch that almost every time I see it if it is uncut and no commercials. One of my all-time faves.

      • Irish Sweetness

        “It’s a hell of a thing killin’ a man. You take away all he’s got, and all he’s ever gonna have.”

        Kid swings from the bottle. “yeah, well I guess they had it comin’.”

        “We all have it comin’ Kid ….”

        • CanadaBear

          The guy playing the kid does a helluva job.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I was just thinking that.

            The Outlaw Josey Wales next.

          • CanadaBear

            Some of that is really corny but I still like it. Needless to say I like Westerns.

    • Bender McLugh

      For A Few Dollars More is also excellent

    • BearDown100393

      He should have armed himself if he is going to decorate his saloon with my friend.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Two alimonies. Jesus. Fool me once, brah.

    • willbest

      I thought it was MB that was getting the check

      • MB30SD

        I didn’t ask for money. That’s a bitch move

    • CanadaBear

      He did mention a pre-nup. I’m guessing, much like his first wife, she has more money than MB. If she doesn’t, either MB has a mountain of cash or she seriously needs a new agent.

      • willbest

        Not really. No name models and e list celebs don’t really pull down a ton of money, unless she is using instagram to sell sex. She probably has paid for a drink ever, though. This SI shoot was probably her first real paycheck.

        • CanadaBear

          She’s the most popular LLOD on SI’s site. I think you underestimate her earning potential.

          • willbest

            No doubt her star is rising, but you got to convert that potential into cash.

          • CanadaBear

            My guess is she is realizing that potential on a daily basis.

  • Sahr Gborie

    http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2017/4/14/15300096/chicago-bears-draft-preview-oj-howard-tight-ends-alabama-evan-engram-jordan-leggett-nfl-2017

    Howard will have to add a bit more muscle to his frame to last in-line at the professional level as well as working on his overall blocking technique, which can leave aspects to be desired at times. His demeanor and toughness also could come into question. But that kind of development is to be expected and taken in the short term in retrospect for a young player.

    This is as polished and as ready a draft prospect as you’re going to get if you decide to stake out a top-five pick on Howard as Bears general manager Ryan Pace just might do. A finished product that could make you forget about the long-term prospects of Chicago tight ends for years.

    This is the only article that has questioned his weight, blocking, demeanor and toughness.

    OJ Howard v J.Adams
    Offense v Defense
    Loggains v Fangio
    Score touchdowns v stop touchdowns

    • Tortured Bear fan

      Pick your medicine

      • leftcoast dave

        Soloman Thomas. His presence will help even the DBs by cutting down on the cigar smoke coming out of the offensive backfield with the QB taking his time to find targets.

        • Sahr Gborie

          What the hell Dave? Most of us have settle on Adams or Howard. We can get an edge rushers in the 3rd or 4th. We can fix the back field in the 1st and 2nd. Taking Thomas is like redrafting J.Bullard all over again.

          • leftcoast dave

            Who are the top three players listed on most boards? If it goes DL three deep, we get Thomas or Allen. Either one more likely to have ten year longevity and greater impact in the league, not to mention the assist to whatever Secondary takes the field.

          • CanadaBear

            If they pan out.

          • Johnnywad

            Giant “If”. It’s funny how certain people get about these players around mid April.

          • CanadaBear

            It’s like there is no chance that will happen. Same with the trade down scenarios. Somehow they end up with about 5 players and all of them are fabulous. Yeah, that happens a lot!?!

          • Sahr Gborie

            You are not worried about J.Allen(arthritic shoulders)
            S.Thomas(tweener not sure where to play him)

            Top 3: M.Garrett. J.Allen. S.Thomas

            Why are we letting other teams set the board for us? We should be the leaders instead of the followers.

            J.Adams at his highest potential can make us the best Defense in the league. At worst he is a quality player. No injuries or character issues. The 2 biggest concerns of any player.

            OJ Howard is a red zone threat and can help the running game with his blocking. Plus his presence means opportunities for K.White.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Both solid choices, that would likely contribute for years god willing.

            But Russell Watson might be a gem.

          • leftcoast dave

            What makes you think it was smart to draft Bullard in the first instance? Bullard was clearly not seen by anyone else as valuable enough to take in the first round, let alone the second. The Big Uglies continue to be the consensus top three picks, not third rounders.

            I do not think that Pace will take into account that “most of you” have settled on X, Y or Z.

        • Tortured Bear fan

          I entice to Garret more than Thomas does and If all gossip comes truth about Browns and SF news, Garret at three…..

          • Sahr Gborie

            M.Garrett v J.Adams v OJ Howard

          • leftcoast dave

            Not even anything to cause you to pause.

          • leftcoast dave

            Perhaps the only player not to trade away from. But then, if he is there, the value of the pick increases accordingly.

      • Sahr Gborie

        The only thing that would make me shy away from Howard is trusting Loggains to use him effectively. It took him forever to recognize J.Howards skills. I trust Fangio more.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Behind Wheaton, Wright, Meredith, Zack, SIms …. and of course the cowbell … he wouldn’t get so many looks.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Or y’know .. draft your Field General for the future.

      How sexy is that Glennon/Sanchize ticket looking?

      • leftcoast dave

        How good did Dak look behind a first class line?

        What comes first, the chicken or the egg, or the 18 year old male?

  • leftcoast dave

    The Big Uglies are the heart and soul of a team.

    Without them, the guys behind them all become JAGs.

    • leftcoast dave

      . . . or patients in rehab.

    • CanadaBear

      But if the Big Uglies are also JAG’s, what’s the point?

      • Sahr Gborie

        Thank you Canada

        We have Bullard already. If we go defense let’s fix the back end once and for all. This is the draft to do it. We would feel very foolishness in 2-3 yrs when J.Adams is playing lock down defense and we are still taking journeymen players to fix our secondary

        • leftcoast dave

          Yea, and Bullard proved to be what?

          Show me a team with too many Big Uglies and I will show you a team with a player they can trade for a good draft pick at minimum or a player who can make the other Big Uglies better through rotation.

          There are always teams needing a good Big Ugly.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Bullard doesn’t fit in a 3-4. Convert to LB or trade.

      • leftcoast dave

        The top three rated players in this draft are Big Uglies. The consensus top three impact players.

        Alternately, you suggest what?

  • Johnnywad

    We are not trading down. It is not a good option.

    We are taking the best player in college football with the third pick and not looking back.

    If Pace trades out of the 3rd pick, after making me watch a 3-13 season unfold, to get an extra second round pick, instead of taking a potential generational talent at the top of the draft, I’m gonna lose it. Fuck the extra pick.

    We all know at least one, if not both, of the teams in front of us is going to do something stupid.

    This trade down talk is fucking retarded.

    This is not complicated. This is not Moneyball. This is the best opportunity the Bears have had in a long time. Don’t fuck it up.

    • CanadaBear

      With ya all the way. Unless someone is blowing Pace away with an offer (extremely unlikely) get that blue chipper and don’t look back.

      • Sahr Gborie

        At least 2 first round picks and a second. Plus we stay in the top 10. If we have to go outside the top10 I want 3 first rounders a 2nd and a 3rd

        My ideal
        1. Trade if the offer is too good to pass up
        2. Stay put and take J.Adams or OJ Howard assuming M.Garrett is gone.

        • Bender McLugh

          and the peasants rejoice

          • MB30SD

            Guard: The peasants are revolting your Highness

            King: Mmmmmm, yes…. quiiiite.

          • Sahr Gborie

            Queen: Let them eat cake

          • leftcoast dave

            Off with their heads!

        • Johnnywad

          Who are the Bears trading with in this scenario? Forest Gump or Cuba Gooding Jr. as Radio?

    • As long as we nab a diff maker, i don’t care if we trade back. As long as we’re able to draft Adams, Hooker, Thomas, Allen, Foster, Howard, I’d be cool w a trade back that will net ys an extra starter in the 2nd

    • leftcoast dave

      Which one “blue chipper” is more valuable than an extra second on top of that guy available three picks down? Most prognosticators say there is only one, Myles Garrett. Then perhaps the next two DLs and then a whole bunch more for the next six or eight picks equally rated.

      I might be wrong, but to dig in your heels before even seeing what’s on the table (maybe something, maybe nothing) and what you get when you do make your first pick, or what else gets picked with the extra juice (if any) is perhaps not the best idea with 13 days to go.

      • Irish Sweetness

        In three years the answer will be Russell Watson.

      • Johnnywad

        That’s Pace’s job to sort out. But I’m quite convinced it’s not nearly as simple as Myles Garrett, then “Everybody Else”.

        That’s crazy. Odds are high in fact that somebody else early in this draft is going to have a more impactful NFL career than him. And whomever that is, I want Pace to see him, and take him with the third pick. Additionally, I still say there is a chance, albeit it not a high percentage one, that Garrett is still there at 3. Both teams picking ahead of us are inept and QB starved. Don’t think for a second at least one, if not both, are considering QB with their first pick.

        Further, none of these picks are “locks”. I keep reading on this board that we can grab a Safety that starts for a decade, or a TE that immediately runs up the TD totals. Or that there are DL available that insure our safeties won’t suck.

        It’s all bullshit. It’s why good teams take BPA frequently in the draft with a very slight nod toward need. They have no idea how a player is going to pan out. They have no idea what injury story is going to unfold for the player, or the team. You can win with an infinite number of variations of high caliber players. So year in and year out, you need to hit on a handful of REALLY good ones. To keep the cupboards stocked.

        So…….when picking third, they damn well better find a killer. A stone cold fucking killer. And hopefully, we won’t be picking third again any time soon. When we drop into the bottom half of the draft soon, then we can start talking about building value with our picks.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Star Wars : The Last Jedi trailer just dropped.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB4I68XVPzQ

    You’re welcome.

    • Sahr Gborie

      Is Jedi plural or singular?

      • willbest

        both, because English.

    • MB30SD

      meh

  • MB30SD

    South Africa just got into the Hong Kong 7s finals! Boom!

    USA gave ’em a fucking run though.

    • MB30SD

      yeesh, then we get killed in the finals by fiji. : /

      damn man, fijians are fucking animals. Big, fast, athletic.

      • DaMurph

        I’m part fijian!

        • MB30SD

          the bottom half?!

          Fucking MURPH!!

          Where you been… most likely on a fucking tropical vacation.

      • Sahr Gborie

        That sport is no joke. Takes a lot of endurance and more athleticism than most people know

        • MB30SD

          jes. 7s is different, but yes.

      • Irish Sweetness

        They love their sevens.

        • MB30SD

          they do… swarthy cunts!

          • Irish Sweetness

            My old man used to make me watch the Fijians in the sevens when it was on.
            “Watch these boys!” he’d say, and sure enough, they’d hammer somebody by a hundred points.

            They’re unbelievable at sevens. Always have been. Weird. You don’t see many white guys in sevens!

            Fiji V South Africa – Final.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puy7kaZFWrs

          • MB30SD

            Watched it today. We got destroyed

      • Tortured Bear fan

        Pace should draft the first line of them

  • MB30SD
    • willbest

      See that is a fun prank.

  • MB30SD
    • SC Dave

      Well kinda… the revolving door in the NFL is almost as bad as in the Congress.

  • MB30SD
    • willbest

      ‘Merica, fuck yeah

    • Irish Sweetness

      The FOX segment .. .OMG.

  • evantonio

    There’s an article on a sports site that lists the biggest 1st-round-busts for every NFL team. Only one team’s write-up included a number of options to choose from. Can you guess what team that was? (HINT: it rhymes with Shmicago Shmairs)

    How much time do you have? The options here are endless, but we’ll go with Benson, who lasted only three seasons in Chicago before being cut in the 2008 offseason after a string of off-the-field incidents. The Bears wanted Benson to replace veteran tailback Thomas Jones, but Benson struggled in the lead role in 2007, rushing for only 674 yards (3.4 yards per carry) and four touchdowns. To be fair, Benson has plenty of company. The Bears also whiffed on first-round picks Curtis Enis, Cade McNown, David Terrell, Michael Haynes, Chris Williams, Gabe Carimi and Shea McClellin — and that’s just since 1998! The jury is also out on Kyle Fuller and Kevin White, but both are trending in the wrong direction. It’s no wonder the Bears have reached the playoffs only five times since Mike Ditka left in 1992. — Jeff Dickerson

    • CanadaBear

      If you count Fuller and White (I’ve given up on Fuller, really doubt White rises to anything other than JAG) as busts that’s 10 out of the last 20. And that’s giving them a pass on the Sex Cannon. Gotta subtract 2 picks for Cutler so that makes 10 out of 18 are busts. Whooo-Wheeeee!

      • Sahr Gborie

        We were better off trading out of the first because we just don’t know what to do with a 1st round pick.

      • SC Dave

        No, that would be 11 of 19, since if you think *two* !st rounds picks for Cutler, one has to be considered a bust.

        • CanadaBear

          Not really. Cutler wasn’t a bust just mediocre. You can’t start for 8 years and hold most of the Bears passing records and still be a bust. Just not worth the cost.

    • MB30SD

      I linked this yesterday. I expect my 2000 word apology by tomorrow

      • SC Dave

        FFS have mercy on us. 200 will do.

        • MB30SD

          hahaha, I actually think evan is a good writer and I would like to see it.

  • Sahr Gborie

    If you have doubts about a player and the possibility of them making it in the league due to injuries you should not draft them. Especially in the top 5.

    Discuss!!!

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      don’t tell me what to do.

    • Johnnywad

      Mind. Blown.

      • Sahr Gborie

        That especially true for a position of need. What’s the point in drafting a position of need if the player might not be available to play due to injury?

        It’s as if you never drafted the position at all or the player only ended up giving you the production of a 4th or 5th round pick for a position of need.

        You just set your franchise back by God knows how many years by wasting a premium pick on someone who never addressed the position of need. You are now back at square 1: Futility

      • MB30SD

        Hahahahahaha

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    the guy that is running Wendy’s twitter account needs a raise.

    http://www.craveonline.com/mandatory/1248645-wendys-trolling-twitter-time-hardees-blocked

    • MB30SD

      It’s a 23 yr old chick, I swear. I’ve been following this… She destroyed mcy D’s last week.

      Viscous

      • King of DBB

        feeling better?

        • MB30SD

          Little thanks. Slept for almost 2 hrs. Hoping to get back on it tomorrow.

          • SC Dave

            Get well, bro.

          • MB30SD

            thanks dave. I said yes to a date tonight, so I can’t be that bad off.

          • leftcoast dave

            Gatorade for electrolytes of at least salt. Yogurt for your gut bugs to regenerate, (you degenerate). Sorry, couldn’t stop my fingers from echoing.

          • MB30SD

            thanks. I go with: https://pedialyte.com/?gclid=CJj8qe2kpdMCFU6CfgodeXsG4g

            stuff tastes like shit, but my son loves the orange one for some ungodly reason so I have tons of it in the fridge/cupboard.

            I’m not a yogurt guy, I just do the pills.

      • willbest

        No way. No 23 year old chick would reference the moon walking. None. Zero.

        • MB30SD

          Sorry… 25!

          https://www.linkedin.com/in/amyrosebrown/

          BOOM!!! Thanks HBP… now is she the same one that brought the noise, or is it the new girl/guy?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            looks like someone new for the Hardees burn, but it was her for the McDonalds one a few weeks ago.

          • MB30SD

            niiiice!

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        I have been following it too. I looked into the girl running it. Her last day was March 31st. So the last couple weeks has been someone new.

      • SC Dave

        Chinese hackers

  • Ososfan

    Trade down to pick 6 and grab OJ Howard. We get some extra picks in the second and third maybe and get more quality bodies on the field for our beloved(Hopefully!)

    • MB30SD

      sigh, come on oso, you’re better than this.

      • Ososfan

        Adams has been shooting up boards, now SF supposedly wants him. So it’s either Thomas or OJ Howard and now I’m leaning towards Howard.

        • Irish Sweetness

          It’s Russell Watson at 10/1!

          • leftcoast dave

            I’d love us to get even close to value to go down to 10. Like I said, the wet dream to hop down. First to 6, then to 10, or wherever. Draft capital, baby, that’s what we need. Whether it comes is the only question. If it don’t, the top of the board is DL. The top of the brain is DL. Does EVERYTHING to make the Secondary better than any one player on the board.

  • BuddhaJoe

    Damn, I’m always here too late to contribute anything, not that it would be worth anything anyway. No to pre-injured players.

    Oh well, here’s deer hunting at its finest:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWMNr26RN9w

    • Sahr Gborie

      Most of us are down to J.Adams or OJ Howard. Defense v Offense

      • BuddhaJoe

        That’s where I’m at although if they pull the trigger on Watson I’d be OK with that too. Of course if they get lucky and Garrett falls to them that would be the one.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Just watched a documentary on ADD. Wow.

    So it’s due to ‘a low arousal in the frontal cortex of the brain’. You can test people for it on an EEG, the theta waves are more spread out. Anyway, it causes impulsive behaviour, violence, buzz-seeking, restlessness, no thought or care for consequences. It basically marks you out as a future criminal. They reckon 90% of repeat offenders are ADD. And it’s curable with this new treatment.

    Playing Pacman and chewing Ritalin. It changes your theta waves – testable – and it cures you.

    • BuddhaJoe

      ADD is nothing, try living with someone who’s bipolar. I love her but it’s rough.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Try being bipolar. A lot rougher.

        • MB30SD

          Aahhhhhhhhhh!!!

        • King of DBB

          Is there a tripolar?

          You are real happy then real sad, and then for a week or so you think exclusively with your dick. (That’s the third dimension)

    • leftcoast dave

      Wow. As long as they get off the speed (Ritalin), great. Speed kills. Out here we call them tweakers. Speed to them is like the ring to Smeagol. “My precious.” Will do anything, read, anything (degrade themselves however, rob, cheat, steal, kill their own children or grandmothers) to get tweak.

    • Sahr Gborie

      Ritalin is one molecule away from being cocaine. I work in pharma sales. Look up: product information Ritalin. You might change your mind when you read the side effects shirt and long term

  • A7Xthebest

    I feel like once you consider all of the odds of all of the scenarios and look at things realistically, the best choice is Adams at #3, or Garrett if he falls(Yeah right).

    Nothing else makes sense to me(No one is coming for our pick).

    • Sahr Gborie

      OJ Howard. Please explain how he is not an option at #3.

      I get the argument for J.Adams – no injury. Leader. Lock down 1 side of the field for years. The CB/S class is deep with quality depth.

      OJ Howard – red zone threat. He can help block of J.Howard. His presence opens lanes for K.White. We no longer have to worry about TE for 10yrs. Best at his position the past 2yrs

      • leftcoast dave

        SIMPLY BECUZ HE CANNOT IMPACT THE WHOLE GAME LIKE A TOP DL!!!!!

        A top DL makes the Secondary better by making the QB release or DIE!!!! As opposed to smoking a ‘gar and letting his WRs get open. One DB can do what against that difference? Nada.

        • Sahr Gborie

          More touchdowns with OJ Howard. We lacked that last year. You remember the drops

          • leftcoast dave

            Yea, of course! They be guaranteed and . . . well, we gets lots more TD’s because the D can’t stop the other side either! But we just keep getting TD after TD from OJ Howard and he will put up 50 points a game!

          • Sahr Gborie

            We were competitive last year. Injuries killed us. Jaguars and Colts in particular​ we should have won with more touchdowns

          • leftcoast dave

            Or a better defense? Particularly the secondary? Where opposing QBs smoked cigars while waiting for their receivers to get open? How many sacks did we have last year? Simple answer is less than the Packers or the Viqueen which is what matters most because QB sacks change the field, big time.

          • MB30SD

            Wait, now you want Adams??

          • leftcoast dave

            No, we have already upgraded the Secondary in free agency. Sure, add in the draft, but not the 3 pick. Soloman Thomas or Myles Garrett if we get lucky. Two extra picks in the second and third if we really get lucky with a trade out and then BPA times five or six through three rounds. That gets your top flight S, CB, OT, LB and DL, all in the top three rounds. Need partners for that to happen.

          • King of DBB

            Thomas is a tweener.

            I will call it now: Solomon Thomas nickname is “Mocha Shae”

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            we were 12th in the league in sacks. 3 behind GB and 4 behind MIN. I don’t think your sack argument holds up. We were however 29th in INTs and tied for last in Recovered Fumbles. Turnovers matters most because we get the ball back and the other team doesn’t score.

          • leftcoast dave

            No doubt the secondary needed fixing. That was tried through the draft, but with Porter injured, Fuller a no show and Amos disappointing, we were left with what? Crevon Le Blanc (UFA) picked up in September! I agree wholeheartedly that da Bears need to draft a CB and an S to build under, or take over for the FAs signed. I just do not agree that you use the 3 pick to do that. The risk/reward in the DL makes it a much safer bet than putting all them eggs into a rookie S.

          • Johnnywad

            We would have won all 13 games we lost with more touchdowns.

          • MB30SD

            Exactly

        • King of DBB

          Please read this:

          http://nypost.com/2016/11/10/landon-collins-not-just-helping-the-giants-with-standout-play/

          Now answer again what one safety can do, please.

          • MB30SD

            Bingo!!

          • leftcoast dave

            Picked 33rd in the draft, emerged as a leader in his second year after a disappointing first year. This year they picked up Quintin Demps for that teaching role. Was a FS earlier in his career, now SS. Experienced player will be 32 soon but signed for three years. Why would Pace have done that? Rather like Sanchez to teach the yute?
            Makes sense to me. Also makes sense to draft a S down at the 33 level, not the 3 pick.

          • Bender McLugh

            Thiiiiis

      • A7Xthebest

        I respect the love for Howard.
        I think my sentiment is just that looking our offense up and down, I don’t really see us blowing the top off people. Inversely, I think if we shore up our secondary we could have a really SOLID (If not very good) defense. Also, the leadership quality to me elevates a guy tremendously, even if the skill set to another player is comparable.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Or for that matter, the best QB in the draft ….

      • SC Dave

        Lanes for K. White means nothing. Nada. Zed. Zilch. Zero. Nil.

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog I agree with Jahns. I think if Bears think Mahomes = Cutler they will leap to take him”

    Who loves Cutler? Pace? Fox? You honestly think they desire another version of Cutler?

    My bet is if they select a QB high in the draft, they will hope for more than an average, turnover-prone starter.

    • leftcoast dave

      My bet is that they are paying Glenny, all the FA dbs and wrs simply to guarantee that they are not forced to take anyone other than BPA with each and every pick. That means NO QB at 3 and no “hoping” for what they get.

      • BerwynBomber

        There is hope in any guy they draft. Nothing is guaranteed when it comes to a draft pick.

  • King of DBB

    More code drops via our favorite dancin’ FSB mole: Assange.

    According to what’s there the NSA was putting all SWIFT transfers into a database. That makes excellent sense, that is what I would want done as well. SWIFT is an AML nightmare.

    https://medium.com/@msuiche/the-nsa-compromised-swift-network-50ec3000b195

    • Bender McLugh

      Link no longer valid. Watch your door

    • Johnnywad

      English please for the rest of us.

  • King of DBB
    • MB30SD

      Refreshing no?

    • BearDown100393

      What’s weird is that Lincoln Park Zoo let him out.

  • MB30SD

    So here’s how I think shit might roll…

    1. Garrett
    2. Adams
    3. Allen
    4. Doooooon’t caaaaare…

    Now here’s how I would love shit to go (it won’t):

    1. Watson
    2. Garrett
    3. Adams

    Or…

    1. Trubinsky (this would be soooo browns)
    2. Adams
    3. Garrett

    • CanadaBear

      I’m OK in all 3 scenarios as long as none of them at 3 suck. Not real keen on Allen but that’s based on what people tell me. Really have no idea.

    • King of DBB

      Do you know something we don’t about people suddenly getting hot to trot for Watson?

      Or, as I call him, “Cardale Jones Jr.”

      • MB30SD

        No, just thinking the browns are still the browns, no?

        • King of DBB

          After flushing RG3 during what can only be described as QB FA disaster – it would take monster balls to take Watson at 1. Huge.

          But if any team would do it, it would be Cleveland.

          And it would be another disaster.

          • MB30SD

            Exactly!

            RG IV

          • CanadaBear

            Hue Jackson is on record that he wants Garrett but that really doesn’t mean anything.

          • Sahr Gborie

            RG3 never learned to slide. If he had not taken that hit we could have had the #2 pick. I think he would have won them more games. Their roster is actually good.

            Watson will be a good QB with the right coaches in the right system if given the chance to sit and learn.

            Jacoy Briskett from the Patriots. How did everyone else miss him? Right coach. Right system

          • Johnnywad

            Brissett? WTF?

            Everybody else miss him? What the hell am I missing?

          • Johnnywad

            They took Johnny Football when every single person with a pulse knew it was a huge mistake.

            I want them to take Watson. Then it’s just up to the Niners to Niner themselves into handing us Garrett.

            This is not over.

      • Sahr Gborie

        It’s the need for a signal caller. Teams can’t help themselves. Just look at the Jets

      • Irish Sweetness

        Russell Watson.

    • Sahr Gborie

      God bless you MB

    • Irish Sweetness

      1. Garrett.
      2. Adams/Trubisky.
      3. Watson.

      • MB30SD

        Thats the Death of a career right there.

        • leftcoast dave

          Pace wants to sell that pick so bad he’s almost willing to admit it.

  • MB30SD

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2703457-as-rumors-swirl-the-browns-pick-at-no-1-has-nfl-and-other-teams-concerned?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

    ‘at least the bears have 1985…’

    We are once again being lumped in with the browns and jets.

    Infuriating that our front office doesn’t seem to give a fuck

  • CanadaBear

    Not sure if you guys saw this. Former TE Todd Heap was moving his truck at his property and somehow struck and killed his 3 year-old daughter. Tragic.

    • Too Soon?

      I’ve heard of pancakes blocks before…

      • CanadaBear

        Really dude. The guy accidentally killed his 3 year-old daughter.

      • King of DBB

        My neighbor when I lived in Colorado accidentally backed up and killed a child.

        He became a raging alcoholic and could not control his guilt.

        Now Heap did this to his own child. He will never live a day for the rest of his life not seeing her face or being tortured by his mistake. Never.

        So yeah. Too fucking soon asshole.

        • Johnnywad

          There is no “too soon”. It’s never time for that.

          That’s always inexcusable. What a piece of trash.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Not a day.

      • MB30SD

        that’s fucked man. totally fucked.

        • Johnnywad

          Man. This. This. This.

          What. The. Fuck?

          What a fucking psychopath.

          Jeff, whoever that is on a guest handle, time to block that piece of shit.

      • Sahr Gborie

        Really bro? Do you have kids?

    • BerwynBomber

      A horrific story. Very sad.

    • BearDown100393

      Just read this. Horrible.

    • willbest

      Brutal. I am paranoid about this sort of thing. I make sure my kids are in LOS of the driver seat 5 yards away if I am backing out while they are outside. I really like the addition of the rear camera on the newer model cars too.

      And I harp on them about their need to respect cars all the time. The same way cars have to respect trains.

      • MB30SD

        yep. 100%

    • MB30SD

      fuuuuuuuuuuuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      My god, I don’t think I’d make it through something like that. holy fuck.

      • Johnnywad

        Nope. No way. Couldn’t do it.

        • MB30SD

          I would literally die of a broken heart right there… And yes, literally

          • AlbertInTucson

            No idea how someone could live with a tragedy like that.

          • MB30SD

            I couldn’t Al. Killing your own baby like that… I can’t even fathom

          • AlbertInTucson

            There are tragedies and then there are absolute horrors.

          • leftcoast dave

            Amen to that.

          • MB30SD

            Indeed

    • Sahr Gborie

      Put him on suicide watch. That’s the type of tradegy that you cant lash out at anyone. The guilt will pile up. Gods grace be with him.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Yeah. God be with him. This will be rough.

      I remember our coal-moan reversed over his 3 year old daughter. That was the end of him.

  • Captain Obvious

    Did you guys hear? Glennon shared home video of his birth:

    https://media.giphy.com/media/HIhuCKgrDxwek/giphy.gif

  • Captain Obvious
  • Captain Obvious

    Apparently, Glennon’s wife just had a kid:

    https://tribktla.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/mom2.jpg

  • King of DBB

    Korea unveiled it’s FrankenMissile

    http://ei.marketwatch.com//Multimedia/2017/04/15/Photos/ZH/MW-FK495_NorthK_20170415120057_ZH.jpg?uuid=b635952a-21f4-11e7-b5cb-001cc448aede

    Some guys gotta go for the penis extension surgery I guess.

    • Sahr Gborie

      LoL. The young boy wants to show he can rug with the big boys. The Orange Smurf, Old KGB Dog and the young boy just need to get laid.

  • MB30SD

    watching real rugby now. Liechester v Newcastle.

    Real rugby is so different. I like it much more than 7s. To me, 7s are like badmitton vs. tennis.

    • Johnnywad

      Wait. Rugby is on TV? It’s like a real thing?

      • MB30SD

        Jes… Cablr

    • Irish Sweetness

      27-0!

  • MB30SD
    • Sahr Gborie

      I would rather have J.Adams if we go defense. Instant plug and play. But someone will be luck to have him. We are luckier to have the BPA also fit our need.

    • King of DBB

      Mocha Shae

      • Sahr Gborie

        We are trying to get over the trauma. Please don’t make us go back. Please

      • MB30SD

        Haha, no way man

      • Bender McLugh

        That bad lol

      • Bender McLugh

        Too soon

  • BearDown100393

    I miss football.

  • EnderWiggin
  • Bender McLugh

    Happy weekend gents.

    DMB at Alpine Valley
    https://open.spotify.com/track/3WX0uummmmO5OmleTNObnN

  • Bender McLugh
  • SC Dave

    Just lucked into (I guess) most of a pint of Founders Rubaeus Fruit Beer, as the last keg kicked so I got it free.

    Not at all my style, but it *is* a Founders.

    Maybe a 10ish oz pour will be just right.

    • BuddhaJoe

      I work about a 5 minute walk away from that brewery, they have great sandwiches. Their beer is good too, but there’s better Michigan brews. If you ever see Short’s, give it a try. They just started distributing out of state.

      Their KBS is of course without peers, though.

      • SC Dave

        I will. Not seen them yet.

        Where do they call home?

        • EnderWiggin

          South Carolina is beer hell, Bear Bro…

          • leftcoast dave

            Become a zymurgist. Ales are easy. I used to do a kick butt IRA (Irish Red Ale) which resembled Newcastle Brown but much better. IPAs are also easy. Did a knock off of Anchor Liberty Ale which is dry hopped. That’s when you put fresh Cascade hops in your wort and turn it off immediately (only to sanitize) and spurg with hops in the primary fermentation. Killer fresh hoppy nose.

      • EnderWiggin

        My brother will be here(from Effingham) tomorrow, he’s binging a bottle of KBS and Curmudgeon, along with about 12 others I can’t find near the beach.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Effingham as in central IL?

          • EnderWiggin

            Aye.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            i was born an raised in Teutopolis.

          • EnderWiggin

            My eldest bro is an English teacher at T-Town =)

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            It isn’t Mr. Wilson is it?

          • EnderWiggin

            Church

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            OK he started a couple years after I was gone. small world though.

  • SC Dave

    Yeah… I won’t order another. Back to Westbrook IPA.

    But Founder’s Porter is still the best I’ve had.

  • SC Dave

    Not sure I will ever understand boxing. Going out and getting your head punched off.

    • CanadaBear

      Where I’m from originally was the home of the middleweight champ for a while. He and his family were very poor. My mother worked for the state employment service and had to deal with his mother. My mom said she was one of the dumbest people she ever met. My mom wasn’t being mean, just honest. Whenever the champ came home there was always trouble with the law. He lost his crown in a home town fight with a late rd knockout. I’m working with a bunch of cops during the Festival where I was the money man. All the cops were thrilled the guy lost esp in such a tough manner. They all thought it was funny. At some point it dawned on me, probably all of these cops had been in a scrap with this guy at one time or another. They have been fighting since they were born, they are good at it, they enjoy it and growing up almost never lost a fight. That’s pretty much how almost all of these guys get into boxing.

  • SC Dave

    On the other hand, I will always understand a truly great professional sports franchise.

    Mmmm… Spurs.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Blackhawks.

    W.T.F.?

    • Cormonster

      After the college hoops tourney, I kept Sling TV for another month just to watch the Blackhawks in the playoffs, and I still haven’t seen a goal. Unless they really turn it around and wake up fast, they are toast. Bummer.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Sling TV.

        How appropriate, since the Hawks certainly have put there collective ass in a sling.

  • leftcoast dave

    Pace is deeking, jivin’ and head fakin’ in every direction. Just read the “Lattimore is the pick” talk after all the safeties and now it’s back to Deshun Watson.

    That tells us what?

    He wants somebody, anybody, to step up and pay up something, anything, to trade down. Pace wants more picks, not just one player at the 3 pick. Nobody at 3 will have enough impact. He wants numbers of possible impact players and does not see anyone at the 3 worth spending the capital on.

    Good humor.

    http://sportsmockery.com/2017/04/insiders-reveal-chicagos-plan-to-draft-deshaun-watson/

    • Irish Sweetness

      We’re gonna need a QB. What’s wrong with Watson? His numbers and record scream future stud. Why not him?

      • Sahr Gborie

        Impact on day 1. He has no impact until 18 or 19

        • Irish Sweetness

          And he doesn’t need to.

          You’re buying the new car, but you’re going to tune it up for a while and drive your other ones til it’s ready.

          The crew is in place to teach him.

          It’s stranghow nobody seems keen to fix our long search for The One.

          The guy was rated over 150 every season he played!

          • Sahr Gborie

            I understand what you are saying. However Adams and OJ Howard will have immediate and long-term impact. Plus we can get a QB in the 2nd or 3rd. Or next year when the class is better

            Do you want want to take Watson at 3 because we are picking so high and it’s a good chance to get a good QB or do you believe Watson is the QB who could lead us for the next 15 so we should take him?

          • MB30SD

            He 100% does need to maings. He would be my pick if I had to take a QB, that said… He’s rg 4 doood.

            Go back and watch the Nat champ game… He was great, but he also almost died on the field 3 times. He IS rgIV and his current game will get him killed in the NFL…. So he’s like all those types of QBs. Tough transition from that style. The only one who’s been able to convert reasonably well is Wilson… And he got plenty injured last year, and that’s not going to get better with age/more hits

      • MB30SD

        The gorbs is 100% here, you don’t waste a fucking#3 on a dude who’s going to have to sit on the bench for at least a year behind a giraffe that was just paid $18M dollars dude.

        You wanna talk career suicide… Especially in Chicago.

        @ the 3rd pick in the NFL football draft, You take a guy there who has immediate, day 1 impact on a massive position of need.

        There’s only one guy that fits that bill.

    • King of DBB

      So the source is Moon Mullin?

      Yeah. Ok. Let’s wait and see.. Mullin is a drunk.

      • CanadaBear

        He might be a drunk (he is Irish with a red nose) but I have no idea if he is or isn’t. Doesn’t change the fact the Beloved might take Watson at 3. At this point, I think the Bears take him if he’s there. Not exactly my first choice but I understand taking him.

        • King of DBB

          There is a plan emerging. Biggsy has said QB and now Mullins is off the sauce long enough to say Watson.

          I fear that Glennon is such a low-ego, aw-shucks-yes-sir kinda guy that he may have been sat down with his agent and said “you start this year, you mentor our QB, and then in year 2 you sit behind the kid. After that you will be less one year of wear and tear and are free to make another deal.” And they sweetened the pot to get them to agree to that and felt he would be a good teacher.

          Glennon looks like a teacher at a Lutheran school anyhow.

          It may be smoke to get somebody to trade down with the Bears but let’s see.

          • CanadaBear

            That’s kind of where I’m at. If the Beloved win 6-7 games this year (who knows?), they would have to trade a boatload to get up the board and draft a QB next year. I’m sure POX both think they will win at least that many games. I could see them drafting Watson, letting Glennon start the season and let the chips fall where they may. In that scenario, if they both pan out (again, not likely but who knows) they would be sitting in pretty tall cotton with a chance to trade a QB and get a haul. After all this speculation on the board, Pace will probably trade the #3 and end up with an enormous pile of draft picks in the future (I actually don’t believe this). All the speculation is fun. I get a kick out of the posters that just know these guys are gonna be studs.

        • Bender McLugh

          I’ve been resigned to this for a while now

    • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

      Pure speculation.

      Here is one thing easy to understand. Pace and Fox want their first round pick this year to play, contribute and make an impact this year. One reason the Bears sucked last 2 years is the lack of production from the two premium picks. #7 pick Kevin White barely got on the field. And even Floyd missed 4-5 games (and collected 2 concussions which will become an ongoing issue).

      The last thing Pace and Fox can afford is to have their #3 pick sit on their ass for 1 or 2 years to learn basics of NFL offense. Watson, Trubisky – all of them will have to sit behind Glennon and Sanchez. It ain’t happening. They simply can’t afford to do this.

      Continue to believe Pace will pick a qb from Kaaya/Peterman/Dobbs.

      • MB30SD

        Bingo!

      • King of DBB

        The counter argument:

        A GM in his 3rd year is now given the leeway to go get “his guy”. And the patience to see how that pans out. Down the road he may not have the political capital he has right now. And so he intend to strike while that iron is hot which is why the Bears spent so much time, according to Mullins, doing QB evals this draft.

        • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

          They should spend time evaluating all QBs. It doesn’t necessarily mean they are going to take one at #3.

          How do you try to convince teams at the back of the first round (Houston, KC) who are also looking for qb in the draft to move up? Ans: You try to convince the world that you are picking qb and that top qbs will be gone by the 20th pick. Even Bills (#10) and Cleveland (#12) will want to move up. Bills have a new regime and have the ideal situation to invest in a top qb pick. Browns have no qb and looks like Bellicheat is keep Garappolo so Browns have to make sure to get the QB they like.

          Pace will draft a qb and get his guy. I think his guy is more like Kaaya (he played in pro style offense for 4 years) than Watson or Trubisky or Mahomes who have never played under center.

  • Sahr Gborie

    What we know about Pace is that he likes athletic players. His previous drafts show that he will take a chance on an athlete in the 1st and a solid can’t mess this up pick in the 2nd

    2015 – RD1 – K.White
    2015 – RD2 – E.Goldman
    2015 – RD3 – H.Grasu

    2016 – RD1 – L.Floyd
    2016 – RD2 – C.Whitehair
    2016 – RD3 – J.Bullard

    Trade back or stay put @3 that will change in 2017 but only a little

    RD1 J.Adams or OJ Howard
    Eliminated the others due to injury. I don’t think he will take that kind of gamble even though he did not know about K.White until after the draft

    RD2 Marlon Humphrey or Sidney Jones because the class is that good you have to go back

    RD3 TE Jake Butt if we don’t take OJ Howard. If we get Howard then LT Taylor Moton

    This takes care of our 3 biggest needs CB, LT & TE

    • MB30SD

      Wroooooong! Gorbs you ignorant slut!

      Safety is the biggest position of need. TE isn’t even top 5.

      Howard is a bpa pick, not even close to a need pick. That and butt blew out his entire knee about 2 months ago, where’s your injury argument now. You do not take a flyer on a guy with one knee

      Oh and fuck Jake butt, you take the Miami Nigerian nightmare in your scenario… That said, we don’t need a te dude, move along… Nothing to see here

      • Sahr Gborie

        What happens when Z.Miller goes down?

        Howard is at 3 because of BPA and it takes care of a soon to be need.

        The draft is deep with CB/S so we can afford the luxury of Howard

        What do you consider top5 needs?

        • MB30SD

          Sims steps up, and if he goes down, brown comes in. We have 4 fucking TEs dude!?

          Brown came out of nowhere last year with 4 cucks throwing to him.

          TE is not even close to being a pon… It’s not a position of greatness either, but we don’t have that luxury anywhere with so many gaping holes in our roster

          • MB30SD

            Oh, and…

            1. FS
            2. DE
            3. CB
            4. LT
            5. ILB

            Or you could go:

            1. FS
            2. CB
            3. DE
            4. ILB
            5. LT

            The last two are based on how Tre comes back

          • CanadaBear

            I prefer option 2.

          • MB30SD

            Yeah, me too Canada. I think our tackles by the end of the year weren’t horrible. Massie and Leno did ok

          • CanadaBear

            I’ve always thought Leno was OK and improving. Could they do better? Of course, but he’s holding the fort for now. Massie was awful early in the year but the last couple of months I thought he was at least league avg.

          • MB30SD

            Exactly

          • Ososfan

            Massive cost us a win when he was blocking his own teammate but yea, he got better, definitely hopefully this year he’ll be solid.

          • MB30SD

            not saying the dude is HOF, and we can ALWAYS upgrade that position… just saying it’s not a massive gaping hole for us like some others.

      • Tortured Bear fan

        that nigerian nigtmare will be out before you realize MB, first round material.

        • MB30SD

          Yep, then pass on te altogether, we should be ok this year… Wez already has 4

      • Ososfan

        The Nigerian nightmare will not make it to the second round. He’s incredibly gifted too…

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    This is interesting to watch as Steve Mariucci and Kurt Warner put draft qbs through paces.


    Mariucci: ‘What is the best thing you do?’
    Trubisky: ‘Throw the ball.’

    Lol. Really? That is all you got?

    Mayock on Mahomes “a combination of a jay cutler and a Johnny manziel”. Lol..NO


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOxW_xLxRaQ

    • King of DBB

      A drunken cocaine freak who is alternately a party animal and sullen, with a cannon arm and no discipline. And has diabeeeetus.

      Sounds like a Bear!

      • CanadaBear

        What could go wrong?

    • CanadaBear

      YIKES!

      • MB30SD

        I was juuuust about to type exactly that Canada, then I looked down. Hahaha

        Uhhhh, noooo thanks!!

        • CanadaBear

          You just know someone will fall in love with that cannon arm. If the Bears draft a QB @ 3 and he sucks, it will be almost impossible to get excited about them going forward. I’ll never quit them but it doesn’t mean I will make much of an effort to see games that aren’t on my TV at home.

          • MB30SD

            Exactly. One more wtf move in this draft and it will be veeeery difficult.

            If it wasn’t for you guys I would already be a meh watcher of 2ish garbage bears games a year… Prolly only because they’re the Monday or Thursday night game

          • CanadaBear

            If it’s on my TV at home I’m watching it. If I have to go to a sports bar, they have to be playing at least competitive football. Not gonna go to a sports bar to watch them get smoked. I’m OK watching a loss but I hate sports bars for the most part.

          • MB30SD

            See, I go to the bar to check out and talk to cute chicks mostly anyway. Gettin all pissed because we suck then have my buddies make fun of me for 3 hours isn’t all that fun.

          • CanadaBear

            I go by myself or with my Beloved Bride. I just hate all the screaming and yelling. None of it is part of the Bears game. It’s always on in a lonely corner of the bar and the sound is always on for the better matchups.

          • MB30SD

            exactly. Fucking sucks not having a decent fucking team man. A few years, sure… erra team has down years.

            Bad teams (nay, orgrs) suck for 10+ years consecutively. we’re turrible and it’s no fun. We ‘pay’ for this product and the fact that there’s no accountability from the top is stunning.

            I get fired at work when I suck for a little while, never mind 10+ years.

            Fucking pull it together mccaskeys. Fire that fucking bean counter NOW and bring in someone like manning!

            That would be a really great start and would show the fans the mccaskeys are committed to trying to change things. Otherwise, we’ll be the browns lite shortly enough.

          • CanadaBear

            I’m hoping Pace is the real deal. If he is, at some point he will handpick his successor and shove Sweaty Teddy out the door to take his place. That scenario would leave ST in place for a few more years but at least he would get launched eventually. I thought the Jags made a nice move hiring Coughlin. He would have been 1000X’s better than ST.

            As far as getting fired for being shitty at your job. With my old one, you could fuck up some little stuff and get away with it but if you really fucked up, C-Ya.

          • MB30SD

            agree, have a lot of respect for coughlin.

            We continue to use ‘advisors’ that are failed nfl gms. turds.

            i’m just so tired of sucking… just fucking fix it mccaskeys, I don’t give a fuck how. Just fix it.

          • CanadaBear

            After wandering around in the desert from the late 60’s until the early 80’s (with a short reprieve from Jack Pardee), this isn’t a deal breaker but it sucks becoming a semi-fair weather fan.

          • Ososfan

            I have and I know waffle has too! Sex Cannon III! LOL

          • MB30SD

            Hope so… Especially at #1 and 2 picks.

            Go dog pound!!! Hahaa

    • Ososfan

      While Mayock is by far my fav draft analyst, he sucks at analyzing QB’s, legit proven track record of eating crow more than once when it comes to QB’s; everything else he’s mostly spot on…. So I’d take his opinion on QB’s with a grain of fine kosher salt…

      • MB30SD

        antisemite!

        • Ososfan

          Lmao! What?! I love my Jewish brothers and sisters!

          • MB30SD

            kidding maings.

        • Mayock is Jewish?

          Draft conspiracy!

          • MB30SD

            Mmmmmmm, prolly not with that name

      • Oh yeah, throw out his QB evalutaions. He ranked Gabbert ahead of Cam one yr.

        He’s much better with secondary.

    • Sahr Gborie

      “a combination of Jay Cutler and Johnny Manziel”….So you’re saying he’s got till the trade deadline!

    • Irish Sweetness

      Dan Marino was an idiot too. Jus’ sayin’.

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    This is what happens when a team talks itself into a QB pick at #3. Hope Pace avoids a similar fate.

    Jaguars coach Doug Marrone said Blake Bortles has to “go back and build his foundation from the beginning.”
    “We told him we wanted him to make sure his arm was ready to go because there will be an increase in reps, which will help him,” said Marrone. “You start with the foundation and you look to see how fast they can work through the foundation.” Bortles has spent the offseason ironing out his mechanics with quarterback guru Adam Dedeaux in California. The Jaguars are still undecided on whether to pick up his $18 million option for 2018. That decision will have to come by May 3.

    http://www.rotoworld.com/playernews/nfl/football/

    • MB30SD

      This is the type of thing you do when you’re the browns, jags, and…….. bears.

      Would belicheat have made that move? Pete?

      smfh

      • Sahr Gborie

        Belicheat is a genius coach. He makes a 6 course meal out of mudpies.

        • MB30SD

          Yes… So we should follow that model instead of the fucking browns and jags

    • Bortles has this windup which leads to all his strips and INTs (telegraphing his throws). He’s been doing it since his rookie yr, and it aint’ getting better. The thing, once pressure gets close, most QB revert back to their instincts, and no amount of reprogramming seems to unwire that (how long has Cutler been doing that backpeddling shit, or carrying the football on his hip?)

      That’s what worries me about QBs whose mechanics must be fixed at the NFL level.

      By the time they hit the NFL, that stuff should come automatic so that they can work on other details, like progressions, recognizing Ds, coverages, hot routes, etc

  • MB30SD

    Guys, check out the documentary, “Love Paleo”. Free on Prime.

    you’re welcome.

    • SC Dave

      Thanks for the pointer… imagine I’ll have a watch.

  • King of DBB
    • SC Dave

      The hubris of the ruling class knows no bounds.

  • King of DBB
    • MB30SD

      Oh heerrrrooo!!

      Thank you sir!

  • MB30SD

    Watching office party…

    “Whoa whoa whoa… There’s a car on fire… Did the bears win?”

    Smh

  • Happy Easter!

    Don’t eat too many chocolate bunnies.

    • King of DBB

      Once you go… oh never mind.

  • King of DBB
    • MB30SD

      Hahahahaha… So bears.

      Please jebus no. Don’t pull an Emery pace, just say no

      • SC Dave

        So. This.

    • BearDown100393

      It’s all over.

    • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

      I think this is just Mullin’s imagination running wild.

      It will cost a second rounder to move up to 2. So not only will we get a player who is not going to play in 2017 but we will also lose the 2nd round pick.

      This is not Pace’s MO.

      Watch Gruden give Deshaun a couple of plays to repeat and he cannot remember the plays for his dear life. 10:35 minute mark.
      Will take at least a couple of years to at least learn basic NFL verbiage and take command of huddle, going through progressions etc. No guarantee he will be able to master it.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW12q6K2kno

      I don’t think his game will translate to NFL. He was on a loaded team executing single read scripted plays. Good kid and has overcome a lot but I don’t think he as NFL game. Jameis Winston was more of a sure thing when he came out.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Football is played on the field. I want to see how those college numbers translate into garbage in the NFL. It’s not too likely. All he needs is time and coaching.

        Teams used to wait for that.

    • Ososfan

      With all his spelling mistakes and nonsensical sentences sometimes you can’t even understand what he’s writing. Check him on Twitter! Lol I pay even less attention to this dude.

    • Irish Sweetness

      “The team at No. 2 in the last draft, Cleveland, traded that pick and a
      fourth-rounder to the Philadelphia Eagles, who wanted Carson Wentz. The
      cost was steep: the Eagles’ 2016 first-, third- and fourth-round picks
      as well as Philadelphia’s first-round pick in 2017 and second-round pick
      in 2018.”

      Insane.

      And it would cost us at least a 3,4, and a 5 to move up to 2. Nah. Sit tight and wait for SF to draft Trubiskey, we nab Watson. Happy days.

  • MB30SD

    The president show… Jesus.

    • Johnnywad

      ? Expound please.

      • MB30SD

        Google it

    • SC Dave

      *yawn*

  • leftcoast dave

    Love all the chatter now about a QB. Even hearing it from Cleveland. Unless one or more team falls in love with a certain player and believes they are not going to drop, the top five will be the least valued picks in quite a while. Parity and/or mediocrity, depending upon the positional need or want.

    • Johnnywad

      And you feel the “chatter” is coming from the actual people doing the drafting?

      Has it occurred to you yet that most of what you’re reading is just garbage written by “sports journalists” with nothing football to write about?

      Two things you need to know.
      1.) Anything you’re likely to read that is directly attributable to an actual NFL GM, is likely a lie.
      2.) Said GM’s, especially in the early first, don’t want anybody to know what they’re actually up to.

      Nobody really knows much. Keep that in mind while you’re feverishly scrolling through Aaron Lemming and the like’s daily drip of bullshit tweets.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        don’t mock Lemming and the like. They have a solid plan. Throw enough bullshit scenarios out there then claim genius credit when one of them comes true.

        • Johnnywad

          Like the old man that continually swears the bear market is just around the corner.

        • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

          Lemming and Lambert (the sports mockery guy) are the worst. Funny thing is Lambert now quotes Lemming as an insider!! LOL. They have become each others “sources”.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            who was the idiot that came on here about a year ago and posted all the Lemming tweets? Anyone remember? I assumed it was Lemming himself trying to spread his own idiocy.

          • CanadaBear

            John Doe. Pretty sure it was actually Lemming.

      • leftcoast dave

        No, I think it is teams sending out false signals intentionally. They want to create value, hoping to trade down. The Bears brought Fournette in for a visit why? I’m surprised there isn’t a center prospect out there to bring in and chat with.

        • Johnnywad

          They brought Fournette in out of due diligence. They bring in lots of players they don’t draft. Many times the info they gain from those encounters is used later when evaluating those same players as FAs at the end of their rookie deals.

          You think by visiting with Fournette, they’re fooling some other team into believing they’re going to use the third pick on him?

          • leftcoast dave

            What would be great and good humor is if they did and two other teams were horny for him but expected him to fall. Who else out there has a line like Dallas and an owner like JJ drafting a running back in the top five? Doubt Pace would take that gamble, but hey, a fun thought.

          • Irish Sweetness

            They wanted face-time with the freak RB in the draft. No biggie.

            If they drafted him it wouldn’t be the worst thing they ever did. They’d have high-value tradebait, positional insurance, and the best backfield in the NFL.

            There’s worse positions you could be in.

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Benjamin Allbright‏Verified account @AllbrightNFL
    Prospect to prospect comparisons:

    Watson: Alex Smith
    Kizer: EJ Manuel
    Mahomes: Brett Favre
    Trubisky: Andy Dalton

    I think Trubisky is more Blake Bortles. Both rose from nowhere in their last collegiate year. Game is similar too.

    Alex Smith played out of a shotgun in a gimmicky Utah offense and had no experience playing under center.

    Mahomes does not have any comp in my opinion. Favre had some capacity to play within structure. Mahomes just played streetball at Texas Tech.

    • Johnnywad

      You’d give away an entire draft to get the next Favre.

      • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

        True.

        But it is a lazy comparison in Mahomes’ case.

        Same with Malik Hooker – Ed Reed comp. I hate that. Ed Reed played and performed at high level for 4 years at the U. Not a one year wonder like Hooker.

        • MB30SD

          Adams is MUCH closer a comparison to Reed. Much

  • willbest

    Wonder when the blackhawks plan to show up to the playoffs this year.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Not “when”, but “If” and it sure better be Monday night.

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