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Lions Beat Boring Bears, Sealing Fox’s Fate

| December 17th, 2017

Matt Marton – USA TODAY Sports (Edited)

Any hope John Fox had of remaining the Chicago Bears head coach faded Saturday afternoon in Detroit with another lackluster performance. The Fox Bears did what they’ve done every time a bit of optimism has crept into this franchise during his tenure: flopped. And flopped with gusto. Rapid fire!

  • Trubisky’s interceptions will certainly be the story because this quarterback is always going to be the story. But there was far more positive than negative from Tru Saturday. With this coaching staff and these receivers, the Bears are never going to erase a three-score deficit on the road. But if that’s what it takes for the Fox and Loggains to finally let their rookie QB throw the ball around and make the mistakes he has to make, so be it. Trubisky gets better on games like Saturday’s. He doesn’t get better when he’s throwing 14 passes on third-and-long.
  • The pick in the end zone is the throw Trubisky can’t make. Wanna bet he doesn’t do it again?
  • One thing that should excite fans re: Tru is the number of times Lions CBs thought they’d get their hands on his passes and didn’t come close. The kid throws a fastball and the Lions couldn’t catch up with it. (Sadly, neither could several Bears receivers.)
  • Sacks are sacks. They’re going to happen. But I don’t like the hits Trubisky is taking on scrambles and broken down plays. Those are the ones that end seasons prematurely and the Bears need a healthy Trubisky working with his new coach in January.
  • Something that maybe interests only me. Mark Sanchez, in civvies, headset on, staring at the play sheet, completely engaged. Mike Glennon, dressed as the backup, staring into space. Sanchez is going to end up being a coach in the league.
  • Some of the Bears penalties are inexcusable. Eddie Goldman’s personal foul on opening drive. Prince holding on third-and-long. But they’re not even remotely surprising because Fox’s Bears have been undisciplined since day one. Fox and his media minions can bitch about talent all they want but under Fox, good players do stupid things.

  • Most of the penalties in this game, on both sides of the ball, were absurd. Tarik Cohen had a return called back for nothing. Kyle Fuller brushed a face mask while playing up on a receiver. Yes, Jeff Triplette is the worst referee in the league. But most of these calls are a weekly occurrence now and they just don’t need to be made. They don’t make the game safer. They make the game harder to watch.
  • Cohen is starting to get to that “oh, just take the ball out of the end zone whenever you want” point. He looks capable of scoring on every return.
  • Think it’s funny that I spent Saturday morning debating Jordan Howard’s value in the passing game and he probably had his best game as a receiver.
  • Quick notes on zone read. (1) It is a really effective way for Bears to stop being so predictable on offense when it comes to under center = run play / shotgun = pass. (2) It is lethal around the goal line because it completely freezes the linebackers. (3) The Lions have struggled with it all season. (4) So why not, oh I don’t know, run it?
  • Eddie Jackson, knock the ball down. Just knock the ball down. It’s third down. Catching that interception doesn’t even gain the Bears much in that spot. Jackson is the player I’m expecting to make the most significant leap in 2018.
  • I think the Bears are making a terrible mistake if they let Kyle Fuller leave. No, he’s not perfect but he’s a different player in 2017 and he’s playing with emotion. He’s also developed what every great cornerback needs: a short memory.
  • Lamarr Houston has made more plays since re-signing with the Bears than Sam Acho has made in three seasons. (Side note: I just googled Houston to see how old he is, figuring he was 33-34. He’s not. He’s 30.) 
  • I actually agreed with some of what Kendall Wright said midweek regarding the number of targets given to Bears WRs. But you can’t yap about Antonio Brown on Wednesday and play like Josh Bellamy on Saturday. Trubisky tried to give Wright a big day against the Lions. He dropped it.
  • Raise your hand if you totally forgotten Markus Wheaton was on the Bears. (Jeff raises his hand.)
  • When’s the last time a long snapper and a punter both had a tackle in the same game? Happened for Bears Saturday.
  • There was a point in this game where I thought Bobby Massie was going to get Trubisky killed. Bears have a decision to make on their right tackle, due a $1 million roster bonus on the third day of the league year.
  • It’s pointless to go on and on about John Fox’s conservative approach. That’s who he is. Expecting something else is insanity on our part, not his.

Realistically speaking, the only thing of note remaining in this 2017 season is the firing of John Fox. Several of my favorite candidates – names coming soon – are currently slated for bye weeks in the first round of the playoffs. The Bears need to be ready to hit the ground running come January 1st. So why not make the move before the final home game and save Fox having to hear it from the 7,000 people attending Bears v. Browns on Christmas Eve?

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  • beninnorcal

    Sure would be nice if we could hire a coach that:
    A. Would be willing to explore the idea of keeping some of our defensive staff around(Vic)
    B. That Vic would be willing to stick around and coach under.
    Pretty sure Vic will do just fine if he moves on, but you have to imagine he would want to see this thing thru. Especially if we can pick up a few more contributors on D this offseason.
    I’m sold on Vic. Thinking he won’t be around next year but I think it would be in this team’s best interest if they could find a way for the above scenario to work out.

    • DaBearsBlog

      There’s a lot of conversation – though nobody will confirm anything – that Fangio would be willing to stay but he wasn’t willing to sign an extension with Fox still running the show.

      • Big Mike

        I get all the Fangio love, continuity etc. But the team will have won 13 – 15 games out of 48 since this staff started. If he stays, fine. But what about new young blood to go with our youngsters? That seems to fit the plan better. I don’t know.. just tossing ideas around.

        • SC Dave

          An interesting notion, especially with youth at GM to go along with the rest.

    • ButtonShoes

      I’ve had enough of Vic. He can go.

      • Irish Sweetness

        The boat’s fuelled up, t-shirts, banners and petrol bombs are ready … hop on.

        If Fangio doesn’t get the basic philosophy of defense then how the fuck he can he be trusted to run an organization?

        Where is failure a pre-requisite on the CV of a winner?

      • DBears

        Not he CAN go…. he NEED’s to go. Some of the worst defensive showings have come against the teams he see’s the most, NFC North. Does anyone else find it unacceptable that we made Brett Hundley look like an All-Pro?!?!?! His game plans and in game adjustments suck, he stinks, good riddance.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      It really depends on the HC hire. I’m hoping they select a coach that’s made his bones on the offensive side of the ball. That would certainly leave the door open for a guy like Fangio.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I’ll take Fuller over Fangio any day of the week. Probably a choice has to be made there.

      • DaBearsBlog

        Well that’s just not true. Fuller and Fangio have gotten very close.

      • CanadaBear

        I just don’t get that at all. Do you hate everyone that has ever criticized you? Esp if you had it coming. FFS this guy has 2 brothers that made the NFL. Lots of tough love in that household.

        • SC Dave

          Irish hates any DC that does not blitz everyone every play

  • ButtonShoes

    “I think the Bears are making a terrible mistake if they let Kyle Fuller leave.”

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no.

    • Bear Instincts

      Who is a better FA option than Fuller? Homegrown talent that is not great is better than big money FA talent who does not live up to expectations?

      • ButtonShoes

        Fine. If you get him on a massive discount, go for it. Otherwise, he can kick rocks.

  • fishing florida

    ;they weren’t even competitive. the lions would have had a tougher time playing their own practice squad. the bears absolutely need an entire new set of coaches. the question is whether pace can pick them or not.

    • Big Mike

      You weren’t watching.

      • fishing florida

        what was it that you think i wasn’t watching.

        • Big Mike

          It’s about Trubisky. He’s learning, he’s growing. On the road, against a veteran, talented team, fighting for the playoffs, what did you expect? Fox has to go. But there were plenty of positives to take from the game. Howard had a nice game receiving, Trubisky was very accurate, with the exception of 4 throws. 2 of those were picked. He threw one boneheaded pass. Tarik Cohen was used effectively. Stupid penalty on the kick return. Few plays here or there it would have been a contested ball game.

          Can’t get tied up with W/L this season. If you do, you’ll go crazy. This team is closer than most think. If Pace’s next draft as good as his last two, we’re going to be a pretty good young team next year.

          • George Hotchkiss

            I counted 6 unforced inaccurate throws, two were picked. That is an abysmal performance.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Are we going to pretend every other QB in the NFL doesn’t make innacurate throws? Because they do. Matt Stafford, the highest paid player in the NFL made a handful of his own yesterday. I don’t understand where this standard of zero tolerance on innacurate throws comes from. Every single quarterback does it every single game.

            The interception in the end zone wasn’t innacurate, it was a really bad decision. In fact two were just terrible decisions. The third looked to me like a miscommunication with his receiver. The timing was all off. And that could be all Mitch’s fault. I don’t have any way of knowing.

            Trubisky’s accuracy from within the pocket has improved dramatically in a month. I’d say at this point, that’s become a back burner issue. The decision making has to get better now. But that kid’s got an arm we can trust.

          • Big Mike

            I saw 5 and I think he threw more than 40 times. That’s something to build on.

          • fishing florida

            i said the team wasn’t competitive. they were never in the game. i never said a word about trubisky. so, what the ?

          • Big Mike

            All good. Just trying to keep things positive.

          • SC Dave

            But you’re wrong. They were in the game.

  • Irish Sweetness

    I went to bed after the first pick after halftime, a comeback against significantly better opposition was never on the cards. Funnily enough, what I will remember about the game was the image of Ginnie and Martha on a split-screen, presiding over two cluster-fuck organizations … that are really cluster-fuck organizations because of … well…. them. Never blame other people for your own misfortune, right? “If it ain’t all good, it’s all on you” said the great Chaka Khan and De La Soul. The buck stops with the person at the top. Every time. And there they were, two old birds waiting for their final breath, not really understanding why they couldn’t recreate what old Papa Bear lived and breathed. No damn luck, they probably think … unable to see the litany of shitheads being hired to find and mold football players. Not really knowing what a shithead looks like because they all look like the nice gentlemen they’d shaken hands with at high-falutin’ parties their whole lives.

    That loss I can deal with. Saquon is back in our sights ….

    …. leaving Kareem Hunt on the bench for the playoffs at work …. different fucking prospect.

  • That Guy

    I’ve done a complete 180 on Sanchez. The guy was at best a mediocre pro QB and from reports was just coasting on his fame in order to hook up with willing (and too young) women.

    Since he lost that golden ring, he seems to have found his role, his purpose. He’s the “old wise man” QB who’s doing everything right–and for good reason; he’s getting paid a lot of money, his body isn’t being beaten up weekly, and he is indeed cultivating a new career in coaching. So good for him, and I’m hopeful that his “been there, done that” approach will help out a prospect like Tru.

    ‘Cause when you think about it, Trubisky has all the makings to be an epic Johnny Manziel. Chicago is a great town to have lots of fun in, when you’re the 23 year old starting QB of a founding NFL franchise. He could do everything wrong off the field and in the lockerroom. But instead, he’s getting credit from established NFL veterans for being a leader of men, a studious and inspirational presence despite his inexperience.

    Trubisky turns out right, Sanchez has to get some serious credit for that. Fast-forward 10 years: is Sanchez the next Sean McVay?

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Sanchez probably has a coaching arc more like Pederson than McVay. Pedestrian QB turned coach.

      • fishing florida

        you’ve never given your mommy credit here for the name you use here. what a lady.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Not sure what your fascination with my name is. Only thing I can think is that you can’t argue or contradict anything I write so you have to find something to try and make fun of even something as meaningless as a name on a blog.

          I know, I know, I should run home to my mommy. So come up with a better comeback.

          • fishing florida

            not fascinated. don’t give a dam* about anything you write. just making fun of your immaturity little boy. say hello to your mommy.

          • CanadaBear

            You sure are immature for an old guy.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Doesn’t add up.

          • fishing florida

            and, you are sure presumptuous to think i give a dam* about anything you say pal.

          • CanadaBear

            Oh stop it, you’ll ruin my X-mas!

          • beninnorcal

            I, and most regulars on here, do give a damn about what Canada says. I also think Modestly Huge Bears Penis is a brilliant screen name that I wish I thought of first.
            You’re a bit fussy today.

          • CanadaBear

            Well thanks Ben. I’m not worthy! As far as MHBP is concerned I loved the avatar from the beginning and adding Modestly was a stroke of genius (add your own joke here). FFS we’re all on here for the same reason. I’d much rather have a ton of laughs than a ton of pissing matches.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            No CBear, you are worthy. I enjoy your posts and respect your opinions.

          • SC Dave

            I will take credit for helping with the “modestly” part. It was something HBP wrote, and I replied that “modestly” should be part of his handle.

            So I did something useful in HBP’s mind on da blog.

            At least I didn’t get shut out!

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I was trying to remember who inspired that. Thanks Dave!

          • fishing florida

            i have a history with mod. huge in which he made disgusting remarks about me and my family simply over disagreements about the bears. of course, you do not know that. you, and this other boy, decided to be judge and jury of me without facts other than my comment. are you appointed by the site to do that? paid? just do because that’s why you’re here?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            awe did i hurt your feelings? Don’t try to twist the facts. Facts are from the beginning, you have posted dismissive/demeaning posts to me and other regulars to the point that several regs had blocked you. FYI, it usually takes a lot for people to block someone around here. I got tired of it and decided to troll you a little, and yes I did get a little disgusting, I will not deny that. I did not make that decision on a whim, it was only after you had told several of us ‘little boys to run home to our mommies’, and was very dismissive to many respected posters. Anytime any of us have tried to engage you in conversations/arguments/debates, you basically tell everyone they are wrong/immature and we should go back to our mommies, instead of defending your position or making a coherent argument. The sad thing is that you actually have posted some very insightful posts but you have treated most of us so poorly it is hard to take you even remotely seriously.

          • fishing florida

            BS. bye and blocked to your various identities.

          • SC Dave

            That’s okay… we’ll still read “M”HBP, even when he’s trolly.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Thanks Dave, I appreciate it. BTW I try hard not to be trolly but I just can’t help it sometimes, it is usually for fun and usually no harm is meant by it.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Oh damn. I wonder what various identities do I have???

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      Maybe it’s a good thing that Trubisky had only one year in college. Most people had never heard of him when he was drafted. He wasn’t in the same overhyped spotlight as Manziel, Leinart, or (ugh) Cade McNown.

      Plus Pace trading up for only one spot meant that the move for this guy with little experience few people who had ever seen play was going to be nationally criticized from the get-go before the kid even took an NFL snap.

      I could see Sanchez as a good coach. He’s 31 now not 21. Anyone who is the same person at 31 as ten years before is probably an idiot. He’s matured and still loves the game….can’t say that for Leinart, McNown, Vince Young, JaMarcus Russell,…and good god definitely not Ryan Leaf.

    • Big Mike

      Trubisky has shown zero characteristics of narcissism, shitheadeness or addiction that Manziel had in College or in the NFL.

      • That Guy

        Yeah, I wasn’t saying that he had the personality of Manziel. More like he had all the potential pitfalls that come with being a young guy handed the keys to a marquee team down in the dumps, in a big city just aching for a charismatic young guy to make a name.

        Which is why Sanchez is perfect in his role–he was that young guy in charge of the team in a big city. Sanchez is the perfect guy to be whispering in Mitch’s ear “don’t do X, do Y instead,” because he’s been there & done that.

        • CanadaBear

          I think Sanchez has done a decent job helping MT but that doesn’t include improving his character. Everything I’ve read MT has been a straight arrow kinda guy his whole life.

          • SC Dave

            Nevertheless, temptation is a powerful force. And if Sanchez *has* helped with that, it is A Good Thing

  • Big Mike

    The beloved did it again. Got my hopes up. Gave me a fun week of being a Bears fan. Then they rained on my parade. But I’m not as discouraged as I was after the Packers loss or the 49ers disaster. They were beat by a veteran, talented team at home fighting for a playoff spot.

    After the 3 and out to start the second half, I started watching the game like I was watching film. That’s what it will be for the remaining two games. Cleveland will probably be watched all 22 style sometime the day after Christmas.

    The Bears fought. They learned and they will be better for it. The Lions have better big play playmakers on offense. 3rd and 18 Stafford makes a throw only a few guys can make and the guy that caught it made a play only a few guys make. If Leonard Floyd was on the field for that down, he would have planted Stafford.

    Not getting the run game going in the first half was hard to take. It wasn’t play calling, but not enough plays. Failure to execute, led to failure to move the chains, led to fewer attempts. Kudos on getting the ball to Howard (and him catching) out of the backfield. Our FB had a bad day. He missed 2 or 3 blocks that would have resulted in first downs. (he did get a yard+ to get a first down). If he doesn’t pick that up,he should’ve been unemployed.

    Sowell is not an NFL quality Lineman. I thought it went he went in 2-3 games ago, I knew within 1 second of his first snap. So did the Bears. They pulled him and moved Whitehair to G and Grasu came in. That group had a couple of timing issues and a penalty, but executed the best drive of the season for the Bears (they went 98 yards and scored a TD.

    Would Shaheen have made a difference?

    I loved Trubisky throwing the ball around in q4, Some very good reads. Pocket presence getting much better, very, very accurate… Except when he missed. There’s something similar about his bad throws, I can’t put my finger on it. But I counted 5 inaccurate passes all day. Two were intercepted. The third interception was Culteresque or worse. He threw it right to the defender.

    Stafford toys with a lot of defense. They put 20 on us. If the offense makes 1 drive in the first have that takes up time and results in a FG, I think we would have won.

    • DBears

      Hell, I turned that garbage off after the first lions TD. I saw all I needed to know that our game plan was garbage and this team doesn’t adjust well, hell at all in game. There is zero chance for success for an undisciplined team that has a garbage game plan (again) and that is overmatched talent-wise thanks to numerous injuries (again)….. Until we get COMPLETE new coaching that is not formerly CFL or still calling plays from the Jim Brown era there is zero chance they have success. Oh and while we are swapping our people that are terrible at their job… it’s time to start assigning blame for the consistent history of injuries. All teams have them, the bears seem to just always have more…. so I suggest two things. Get new staff and cut the guys that cant stay healthy. Good Bye to overrated McPhee…. he had a great first half a season just after signing….. he now gets outplayed by someone that wasn’t on a roster just 3 weeks ago.

      • Big Mike

        Nice rant. What was your point. You don’t like anything about this team. Sorry you turned it off so soon. There’s some good talent on this team. Fun to watch them getting better. Can you really comment on the game, if you didn’t watch?

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          Apparently he can.

        • DBears

          Yea, cause I’ve watched every other game this season. It’s the same pattern. I’m sorry, where was the talent for the Bears yesterday? Trubisky, sure… growing pains but talented. I like Eddie Jackson a lot. Surprise will Fuller this year, Goldman needs to stay healthy, Trevathan good to great ILB, Hicks is probowl and a team sprinkled with a few other talents. That was not the point. They came out in 1 quarter you knew their game plan was garbage on both sides of the ball. Why do I need to watch the other 3 quarters to know that it’s totally inept on both sides pf the ball. Glad you saw a team getting better…. I saw a team that was not prepared to be competitive as usual, undisciplined as usual and watched two more starts leave the game due to injury which is about typical for this organization…. so until we get competent coaching and durable starters, they will continue to finish 4th in the NFC North… I didn’t say anything about lack of talent…. we have a lack of healthy talent

          • BearDown100393

            Go ahead and write what you think. Ignore the sanctimonious blowhards who defend anything and everything about a losing organization.

          • DBears

            Ha! Don’t get me twisted, I watch cause I am a consistent and true fan but it is what it is…. we have a decent roster but descent with a ton of injuries isn’t going to compete… couple that with terrible coaching and we have no shot. Give us a good coach with this roster and same injuries and I bet they are 8-8ish team…. but honestly. Long, Goldman, Travathan, Sitton, Amos, Kwiatkoski, Floyd… all good players but none have played a full season, period. SO yea, we have talent….. but our talent can’t stay on the field.

          • BearDown100393

            JAGs tend to be over exaggerated into being gods here.

          • Big Mike

            The preparation aspect will get better when Fox is gone.

            Get Outlook for iOS

          • DBears

            I’m sure it will…. if it gets worse…. help us all

          • SC Dave

            I call bullshit.

            It’s about execution. Make the blocks, and shit works.

          • DBears

            Right… tell that to players in Jeff Fisher’s offense…. you know, the Rams. They just learned how to block this off season, right?

    • leftcoastdave

      Glass more than half full is what I am reading from you and agree fully. The peeps on IR plus those playing yesterday will be formidable next year with the bit E under their belts and that be EXPERIENCE. The reps going to Bullard, John Jenkins and RRH will tell matter bigly next year with Unrein returning, Goldman getting more rest and Hicks simply remaining a monster. The entire LB corp has been jiggered around with plenty of experience being gained and much depth projected for next year after we add another STUDLY Edgy to bookend Floyd whose early season focus had pass protection added to it. Think Eddie Jackson will get posterized again with that ball he was ready to steal but got outjumped? He had time to position himself better to either get the ball or knock it loose. A learning moment. This D will rock next year.

      The O? Can you say “gel?” Who mentioned Jordan stepping out of bounds on that third check down? Will he do that next year or be ready to turn that up big? And gee, he’s catching the ball. He’s only in his second year. Give him a break. Kush returns, hopefully Long returns, Sitton returns, Leno and Massie return, Whitehair is a fixture, Grassu looking better and a TOP TWO OR THREE OT get added next year. Cam be back, but as important the receiving corp with additions will have a whole off season to gel and get on the same page.

      That is what it is all about. Experience playing together and a very deep bench.

      • Big Mike

        Thank you.

  • willbest

    Considering I watched 15 year, HoF bound Brees throw an awful INT in the end zone last week, I am going to take the over on Trubisky.

    Sanchez is a bright guy who realized what his limitations were and has decided to take the skills he has acquired and apply them productively. That should be a model for a lot of players

    • BerwynBomber

      Yeah, but Brees’ pick wasn’t a horrible decision. He had one-on-one coverage on an LB and the LB made a helluva play.

      The better comp is Cutler. As Al said last night, that is a throw you see Cutler make. The difference is that Cutler is a ten year veteran and Bisky is playing the tenth game of his career.

      • CanadaBear

        It was a brutal pick but so far MT has done a good job of not repeating glaring mistakes. Now if we could just say the same about the coaching staff.

  • BearDown100393

    A lot of angst.

    And there should be. No excuses for the Bears poor performance from coaching staff down to players.

    The hyper sensitive Mitch protectors need to find a safe place and cool out. He wasn’t great yesterday afternoon. And the “he’s a rookie alibi” will only hold up for a few more games. So judgement gets reserved.

    Don’t bother converting “he’s a rookie” to “he’s getting used to a new {fill in the blank} – system, head coach, OC, jersey color. etc. etc. etc. Heard all that about Jay. And you probably used it also with Rex.

    Is Mitch really improving?

    Probably. Let’s find out.

    This game of transferring blame among players and coaches is stupid. So Jeff, cut it out. Birdcage better be gone. Wright belongs in camp next season.

    Yesterday is a disappointment. The Bears lost. Wins are what matter. Hobo punts on 4th and 1. The players should have tombstoned him right then and there for such don’t give a crap, coach not to lose but not to win, have no trust in my players b.s.

    Fire Hobo. Get rid of all of them. Including Fangio. Thanks for the defensive work but if you don’t want to be here without strings tied, then don’t let the door knob hit your rear end on the way out.

    Pace needs to hire his own HC. And that HC needs full autonomy to hire his own coordinators. And so on.

    Let the Bears finally have a sensible hierarchy of coaching hires. And then let it play out.

    If Fuller wants to stay for the right numbers, great. If he doesn’t want to be here, offer nothing and move on. Don’t give me this Bosom Buddies B.S. between Kyle and Fangio.

    Now go beat Cleveland and Minnesota.

    Your fan base is restless.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      I’m so proud of you right now.

  • That Guy

    Here’s the worry, though. Fox has to know now, even as deluded as he must be, that his job is gone. At worst, he has to know that he’s in jeopardy. As someone else pointed out recently, why would Fox want to develop/evaluate young guys for the next coach?

    So assume Fox knows he’s got 2 weeks left. How does he approach gameplanning? This is likely his last HC job. Does he want to go out a loser?

    I actually think he might unclench his sphincter and tell Birdcage to let slip the dogs of war. Let Trubisky sling it. He’s got nothing to lose now, so why not go out with a bang? Go for it most every 4th down, regardless of distance or position on the field. Onside kick to start the game. Go for 2 every PAT. Fake punt. Give Cohen the green light to run 40 yards backwards on every punt return.

    It makes no sense for him to play ultra-conservative. Unless he loves the players so much he just wants the season over with no more injuries. Which is possible, too.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      What you see on the field is written in his DNA. He’s not going to become Chip Kelly the next two weeks.

    • leftcoastdave

      Duh? Fox is a pro. Back or not he will do what is best for the team. He will continue to learn them up and get reps for those the team wants to evaluate for next year. He will not “go out as a loser” if you view it from the perspective of the team he took over vs. the team which will be on the field next year.

  • CanadaBear

    Nice summation from Moon. The last part is the clincher for Foxy.

    http://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-hit-new-low-loss-lions-its-been-going-all-year

    • leftcoastdave

      “Later, with the football at the Bears’ eight-yard line: a holding
      penalty on fill-in offensive lineman Hroniss Grasu, followed a snap
      later by a holding flag on wide receiver Josh Bellamy, capped off by a
      delay of game call, which falls on Trubisky. With five minutes still to
      play in the fourth quarter the Bears had had 13 penalties walked off.”

      Yup. And on the next play MT connects for a 22 yard completion and a first down.

      • CanadaBear

        All I can picture is you on the deck of the Titanic looking on the bright side.

        • leftcoastdave

          Oh, come on. You can do better than that!

          • CanadaBear

            I actually like that you are so optimistic. It helps to balance my natural pessimism when the Bears are hideous.

          • leftcoastdave

            Hideous, with yutes and depth and a bright future for years to come.

    • SC Dave

      I cannot disagree with a word of this:
      =========
      Jordan Howard was handed the football exactly 10 times, just three in
      the second half. The stated reason for it will be that the Bears were
      playing from behind, but the Bears didn’t fall behind by three scores
      until midway through the third quarter.

      “Lack of rhythm on offense, penalty, and I need to take care of the
      football,” Trubisky said by way of summarizing a day of yards (349 vs.
      293 for Detroit) but too many of the plays that epitomize what bad
      football teams do, or don’t do. Trubisky finished with 314 passing
      yards, his first 300-yard day, but turnovers and a handful of poor
      decisions overshadowed any positives for his 10th NFL start.

      Franchise-quarterback-in-progress Trubisky went from the best game of
      his career a week ago against the Bengals to arguably his poorest,
      based on three second-half interceptions when the game was still within
      reach, at least emotionally.

  • CanadaBear

    Just checked, this is only the second time in franchise history the Bears have had double digit losses four years in a row. The other time was the last 2 years of Wanny and the first two years of Jauron. Those were dark days indeed. Let’s hope the next coach is a better hire than Jauron. One thing about the double digit losses, the 12 and 14 game schedules kinda helped some of the old teams from reaching this dubious record.

  • CanadaBear

    With this utter volume of losing, there’s really no need to bring anyone back from the coaching staff. Not going to get upset if they keep some of them (as long as Foxy and the vast majority go) but there really isn’t a compelling reason to keep any of them.

    • BerwynBomber

      I think Fangio has done a decent job and Loggains might have a future. But yeah, I’ve never understood force-feeding those guys down the throat of the new HC. Let him assemble his own staff.

      Even if the fear is you go from Old Sauce to Mel Tucker.

      • CanadaBear

        I know this asking a lot out of Pace (and Ernie Acorsi) but you would think the coaching hires would be part of the questions potential candidates are asked. Not that any prospective HC is guaranteed to get every coach they would like to hire, but the names they want (if they are likely hires) should tell a lot.

        • BerwynBomber

          Agreed. But the flip side is that Fox was known as a guy who assembled top-notch staffs wherever he went. And CHI seemed no different. Vic Fangio as his DC, Adam Gase as his OC, etc.

          And looked how it turned out.

          #NoSureThings

          • CanadaBear

            I agree. But if any candidate brings up Mel Tucker’s name …

          • BerwynBomber

            Hah!

          • BearDown100393

            Any candidate considering Mel Tucker, I definitely want that brought up during the interview.

            And then Pacebot can thank him for his time and move on to someone better.

    • AlbertInTucson

      “Flush”.

  • CanadaBear

    Just read a nice solution to teams like the Squawks that like to get in cheap shots at the end of games. From SI;

    5b. The lack of action on Bennett is egregious. But the league
    can actually save face on this: by getting rid of the kneeldown play.
    It serves no purpose. It’s not interesting or exciting. In victory
    formation situations, it does nothing more than entice the team that
    lost to get in a couple cheap shots with the protection of being able to
    say, Well, the game’s still going on.

    The solution is so easy that Major League Baseball
    could even figure it out. Just give the offense an option to concede a
    down in exchange for 40 seconds running off the clock. The defense can
    choose to burn a timeout if they have any left. The offense can also
    announce that they are conceding multiple plays at once. Example: say
    the leading team has first-and-10 with two minutes left and the defense
    has no timeouts. They simply tell the official: We’re conceding the next
    three plays. That’s it. The game is over. Baseball did something
    similar with the intentional walk. And could you imagine being less progressive than the people who run Major League Baseball?!

    • BerwynBomber

      Not a fan of either Bennett but upon watching that replay why was the JAX G or C being so aggressive in his block? I could actually see why Bennett might take offense.

      Anyway, I don’t think that play is much of a problem to require a rule change. Over 95% of the time there are no issues with kneel-downs and a little chippiness isn’t something to sweat so long as no one decides to pull a Vontez Burfect and purposefully try to injure someone. And if they do, fine and suspend accordingly.

      • CanadaBear

        I agree with that but just like the intentional walk, why not just skip it? Nobody will ever miss seeing kneel downs at the end of games.

        • BearDown100393

          Still waiting for a muffed snap and turnover.

      • SC Dave

        Did you mean pull a Rob Gronkowski?

  • Viva Dave Toub

    Marvin Lewis is going to be available at the end of the year…

    One, two, three…

    Not it!

    • BearDown100393

      He’ll be coaching exiled convicts against Trestman next fall.

      • CanadaBear

        Mean Machine!

  • BerwynBomber

    The INTs were all bad. Two piss poor throws and one horrendous decision. But … rookie growing pains. Bisky should learn from them and he got a ton of reps in tossing the pigskin forty-six times. He has talent. A very live arm as they say.

    Thought our pass rush and — wait for it — our receivers played well. I assume a good many of the latter will be gone next year, but to their credit, they caught most everything thrown to them yesterday and even provided separation. Despite Jeff singling out a drop by Wright.

    In regard to the pressure, we sacked Stafford four times and seemed to create about a half-dozen chaotic pockets. Was impressed by our ability to bring heat.

    Can’t ding Jackson too much on the long ball. Even for a PB-level DB that might only be a 50-50 play. WRs are just better at high-pointing balls than DBs. Hopefully Eddie can make the play next time. But those plays will occasionally happen.

    • CanadaBear

      I think Eddie will try to knock it down next time instead of trying to catch it. It was a great play by Jones. The only play all game that made me really swear up a storm was the EZ pick.

      The rest of the game seemed like second verse same as the first. Team came out slow. Detroit’s run blitzing seemed to totally baffle them (even though numerous teams have done the exact same thing). Don’t bother to figure it out and counter it, just stop running the ball. Nathan Lane at his finest.

      Of course, this being a typical loss there was plenty more blame to go around. Maybe this coaching staff can pants the Cle staff next week? Maybe not? Like Keith Richards told Chuck Berry, stay tuned!

      • SC Dave

        Gawd, I hope so. The smart play was to tomahawk that damn ball and sit down while the punt return team comes out.

        As I said at the time, a rookie mistake.

    • BearDown100393

      Hicks killed Stafford on that sack.

  • BearDown100393

    Fudge D looking terrible.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Awww.

    • BerwynBomber

      What else is new …

  • BearDown100393

    Rivera has Newton turbocharged today.

    Grimace might want to save Erin for another day.

  • Sactowns#1

    The NFL has a serious red problem. How exactly is it deneficial to the league to have a red crew with an average age over 60? I’m fairly certain the Cohen return was called back simply because the ref blew a hammy and couldn’t keep up with the play

    • BearDown100393

      The NFL has a serious policy about being cheap about officiating. Make the position full time. Have ongoing officiating camps. Have physical performance standards. Get back into the business of officiating the games instead of making calls pointed toward replay correction.

    • BerwynBomber

      It looked like a hold to me. Ticky-tack but it was holding.

      The Fuller hands to the face was complete nonsense.

      But I have long thought Triplette was the worst referee in the league. And as bad as that might seemed yesterday, that was far, far from his worst game.

      • CanadaBear

        I think they stopped calling every little thing after the official blew a tire. Got 2-3 officials somewhat off their spot and they all seemed less likely to air the laundry.

    • Juan Stone

      I don’t see the conflict Sac. This country has been leaning Red for quite some time now. He he

      • Pretty Boy Assassin

        To its detriment.

        • SC Dave

          Wrong.

  • AlbertInTucson

    So, Biggs, in his (More than) “Ten Thoughts…” talks about rushing yardage from Bear QBs and fails to even mention Bobby Douglass.

    That. Is. Ignorant.

    I think I have figured out why he calls it “Ten Thoughts..” even though he always has more that 10.

    10 is as high as he can count.

    • BerwynBomber

      I find Biggsy very good at his job. In fact, about as good a beat reporter as you will EVER find.

      That said, an obvious mistake.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Well, I don’t necessarily disagree but, he mailed this one in.

        Maybe covering the Bears is having an deleterious effect.

        First, if you have more than 10 Thoughts, then SAY that.

        Next, If you ‘re going to trumpet the rushing numbers of the likes of Kordell Stewart and Cade MccNown but don’t mention Douglass, that’s just insulting.

        Worse, it’s lazy.

        All the info is at one’s fingertips.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Cardinals – Redskins.

    That was a fumble.

    Call stands as incomplete.

    Cards get A FG.

  • BearDown100393

    I will always HATE Mike Martz.

    • Pretty Boy Assassin

      I hate Jerry Angelo and Lovie Smith for not telling him to shove it.

  • BearDown100393

    Davis should be thrown out of the game. That hit will kill football.

    • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

      Adams should be fined for being that unaware. I’ve seen gradeschoolers with more awareness.

  • BerwynBomber

    Rodgers with his second pick. Looks rusty and apprehensive. Stupid to bring him back for their 3 game gauntlet. But this is all about McCarthy and Thompson.

    And a franchise that has truly squandered the second half of QB’s HoF career.

    • BearDown100393

      Erin is chasing Favre’s “toughness” ghost. I’m not a fan of Rodgers but he is under the gun.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah, I’m sure you’re right. And I’m sure he’s a competitor who wants to play. But that’s when you need leadership to step in and take the long view.
        Were I the Cheese I’d want a higher draft slot. Even with vintage Rodgers this team ain’t going anywhere.
        Meanwhile MIN is throttling CIN. Keenum as Gannon 2.0 apparently continues.

        • BearDown100393

          I don’t doubt his “toughness”. He is clearly a competitor. But I do doubt the long view of Packers management. And I do agree with your assessment.

          • Pretty Boy Assassin

            Funny. Their off-season moves are nothing but long term. No big FAs. Not signing guys for too much.
            Strange in season decision.

    • SC Dave

      What would be stupid is to NOT bring him back when he can take GB to the Super Bowl

  • BearDown100393

    I highly question the credibility of Packers medical personnel “clearing” Erin’s collar bone.

  • BearDown100393

    Erin should be shut down today.

    • BerwynBomber

      I wonder when the last time he had 3 INTs in a game. Could be years.

      • BearDown100393

        He is clearly affected by that shoulder. And it would not surprise me at all if Grimace/Thompson contributed to its reinjury.

        • BerwynBomber

          There it is. The first time in 134 games.
          Over eight years since he has done it.

          • BearDown100393

            Grimace is INSANE throwing Rodgers back out on that field. This is neither good for his quarterback or for the team – present and future.

          • BerwynBomber

            Left shoulder. I wouldn’t question it. That’s what they did post-Shea hit in ’13 finale. But right shoulder? Yeesshhh …

  • BearDown100393

    Buck: Under throwing is never a problem with Erin Rodgers until today.

    Good point.

    No zip because his shoulder was either never fully healed or it is now re-injured.

  • BearDown100393

    Bad doctor.
    Bad Head Coach.
    Bad General Manager.

    Someone has to step up and shut down Erin before he is carted off the field.

  • BerwynBomber

    Bortles???

    Hmmmm .. if that dude becomes competent … watch out.

  • BerwynBomber

    McCaffery is killing the Cheese. Granted, it’s the Cheese D, but he certainly doesn’t seem a bust.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Olson having a nice day, too.

  • leftcoastdave

    Jets showing some spunk in NO but just wasted two opportunities off TOs.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Teddy Bridgewater takin live .snaps

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Nice to see Rodgers rusty.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Yes, but, that game is not over. The Panthers have pissed away some leads this season.

  • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

    In a way it’s sad to see Rodgers be an average quarterback.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I disagree.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Same here.

    • BearDown100393

      He is learning today how little Grimace/Thompson regard him.

    • BerwynBomber

      A bizarre sight if nothing else. McCarthy and Thompson are probably damn lucky they did not get him re-injured.

  • SC Dave

    Peppers with the sack to seal the Packers’ fate.

    • BearDown100393

      1st ballot HOFer.

    • SC Dave

      Well, I hope so anyway.

  • BearDown100393

    Green Bay failed to protect its general today.

    And it cost them the season.

    This is on Thompson and Grimace.

  • BearDown100393

    Perhaps today Erin finally learns a little humility and understanding of what #4 endured. And if he has, it would not surprise me should Erin contact #4 about pro football life outside the Fudge.

  • SC Dave

    Unbelievable.

    • Pretty Boy Assassin

      Jebus…not this shit again

      • SC Dave

        I cant believe people thought it stupid to bring Rodgers back.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          yep, they are still in the playoff hunt.

          • SC Dave

            And rosty ir npt, he is the best QB in the NFL

        • Pretty Boy Assassin

          Just little curl routes to death

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          Why? He’s rusty and looked it. Threw three picks and lost the game. Plus he’s probably not really quite there yet. That’s a hell of a short turn around.

          The turnovers killed them.

          • SC Dave

            Do you think they would have been closer with Hundley playing?

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            No. I think it was always a lose lose proposition. I would have protected Rodgers.

  • KentuckyBearsFan

    Is Green Bay thinking crazyland and thinking of trading Rodgers? It makes no sense that he should be playing today.

    GB has needs all over the place. Rodgers is 34 with a lot of mileage and recovering from injury. The haul from the right team would be huge.

    The Peckers traded Favre once. Why not Rodgers?

    • SC Dave

      Are you nuts?

      You have the best QB in the NFL and you *dont play him*?

      • BearDown100393

        He is not the best QB in the NFL today.

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        In my defense, I wrote that last comment watching the Giants-Eagles game….before Rodgers through another bloody touchdown.

        And he is getting old.And off injury….so you never know about recovery.

      • BerwynBomber

        A) Didn’t look ready
        B) Coming off a major shoulder injury to his throwing arm
        C) Killer final three game schedule
        D) Better than normal chance he can get injured because of said recovery
        E) poor team that needed a miracle last week to beat a team that may go 1-31 the last two seasons
        F) would not have gone anywhere even if they somehow made the playoffs
        G) play the long game, sit him and reboot for next year.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          I’m with you. I’d have sat him the rest of the way out. Him and his 13 screw carrying collar bone.

          Hard to tell the team that though when he’s cleared. Lots of other guys dragging injured limbs around.

          • SC Dave

            After losing today, I agree. But they could have gone 10-6 and made the playoffs.

            Regarding the silly argument that they never would have advanced in the playoffs, that’s what everyone said about the champions who defeated the “unbeatable” Patriots after ekeing into the playoffs at 9-7.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            That team had one of the most ferocious pass rushes since our ‘85 Bears. Not really fair to make that comparison.

    • BearDown100393

      Hundley is not Rodgers behind Favre.

      The Fudge Future is very murky.

    • AlbertInTucson

      When they dumped Farve he’d become a turnover machine and they had Rodgers ready to go.

  • AlbertInTucson

    I said 25 minutes ago that that Packer-Panther games was not over.

    • SC Dave

      You did.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Panthers had to make it interesting.

  • Pretty Boy Assassin

    Intentional grounding.

    • BearDown100393

      It would be if not Erin but any Bears QB.

  • SC Dave

    I guess Rodgers’ grounding doesnt count

    • BearDown100393

      Only if traded to Chicago.

  • SC Dave

    Fumble all the way. But its GB, so expect a reversal.

    • BearDown100393

      This

    • Pretty Boy Assassin

      Waiting for it. Refs getting the rod ready

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    lets see if the NFL is truly on GB side with this review. Fumble.

    • BearDown100393

      Agreed

    • AlbertInTucson

      That is a catch/ fumble.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    WOW! expected it overturned because its the Pack

    • AlbertInTucson

      Maybe IN Green Bay…

  • AlbertInTucson

    Good night, Packers.

  • BearDown100393

    Grimace really is an ignorant whining slob.

    • Pretty Boy Assassin

      Never loses honorably

      • BearDown100393

        No honor in that 400 lb meat suit.

  • SC Dave

    Yay!!

  • BearDown100393

    Thank you Chico.

    • BerwynBomber

      Chico could have been ours.

      Notice how he’s doing this. Badass D coupled with a solid run game. Bears football.

      • BearDown100393

        Lovie Smith ran him out of Chicago.

  • SC Dave

    Wow… nice stat line for Cam

    • BearDown100393

      He must have worn his lucky hat today.

      Cam was a beast today.

    • BerwynBomber

      For once …

      • SC Dave

        He is a bit erratic. On the other hand, the Panthers are 10-4

        • BerwynBomber

          That they are. And he’s absolute load for Ds given his running ability.

          I think after the Bears game they said “fuck it,” let’s let Cam run again.

  • Pretty Boy Assassin

    Beautiful.

    Also, fuck you, Buck. You don’t get to call a packet game in the playoffs.

  • BearDown100393

    We may have different opinions on Bears games but it was nice to collectively shred the Fudge today as a group

    Off to see SW Last Jedi.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Aikman: “Excuses, excuses, excuses, wah,wah, wah, blah, blah, blah, yada, yada, yada…”

    Shaddap, Troy!

    • SC Dave

      Glad I cant hear the kno……

  • AlbertInTucson

    Rodgers is a great QB.

    But I love the slice of humble pie the Panthers served him today.

    • ButtonShoes

      He’s a great QB but fuck him. I hope someone re-shatters his collarbone. I have zero sympathy for that fucking asshole.

  • BerwynBomber

    Jay has an 0/3 TD/INT day in BUF.

  • BerwynBomber

    Bridgewater goes 0 for 2 with a pick in limited mop up duty. Keenum damn near has a perfect game. 138 passer rating.

    • SC Dave

      Keenum has been something this season, eh?

  • SC Dave

    Looks like Eagles-Giants was a game.

  • SC Dave

    Go Rams!!

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Go Titans!!

  • BerwynBomber

    Can SNF no longer flex the last four games of the season? Why the fuck is NE/PIT not the marquee night game?

    DAL @ OAK? Really?

    • AlbertInTucson

      CBS and FOX have SOME veto power on the flex choices.

      • BerwynBomber

        Ah ok. Well that sucks. Would rather NBC have carte blanche the last four games.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Not if you were paying Billions for broadcast rights.

  • SC Dave

    Talk abiut missing the ST touchdown by an eyelash…

  • SC Dave

    Gurley probably wishing the endzone was a lot farther away with a hole like that.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      curious. do you post from a phone? I only ask because sometimes it takes a bit to decipher some of the words you are typing.

      • SC Dave

        During games, yes. I don’t have TV at home, so I have to go out.

        And my eyes suck so it’s hard to see my fuckups sometimes.

  • SC Dave

    Rams defense looking good atm

  • BerwynBomber

    Marvin Lewis anyone?

    If nothing else, I bet Pace interviews him.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      No thanks.

  • BerwynBomber

    Bad situational football there by PIT. 3rd and 18 at Pats 27 you should just run Bell and improve your FG chances.

    Instead, they drop back R-berger he takes a seven yard sack and the kicker has to boot a 52 yard FG to bail out the coaches.

    • AlbertInTucson

      But the coaches know their kicker will make those.

      • BerwynBomber

        A 52 yarder at Heniz? Call me skeptical. Unless you have Justin Tucker and even then …

        • AlbertInTucson

          Boswell has been money for them.

  • SC Dave

    Rams putting on the BEATDOWN.

    Sweet so far!

  • SC Dave

    Rams punt returner looking like Hester today.

  • SC Dave

    Go Rams!!!

    Are you fucking kidding

    • AlbertInTucson

      Love it.

    • willbest

      What happened to the Seahawks

      • Bear Instincts

        The Rams punched them in the mouth and never stopped punching. The bears badly need a young HC with energy

      • AlbertInTucson

        Justice?

      • BerwynBomber

        Lost four D starters — three of whom are PBers. No RB. Crappy Oline.

  • SC Dave

    At first, I thought Antonio was showing off with the one handed catch.

    Then I watched the replay and saw that the OBVIOUS holding (not called of course since it was the Patriots) kept his other hand from being usable

  • willbest

    How is it that the Eagles D imploded but the Eagles offense seems unaffected

    • Bear Instincts

      Good coaching

  • willbest

    Steelers want home field

  • AlbertInTucson

    Not a catch.

    • BerwynBomber

      Catch.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Maybe fantasyland, but not here in the real world.

        • BerwynBomber

          You mean the real world as in the horrible overturn world of the NFL? Yes, you are correct there.

          And no doubt I’d prefer fantastyland where obvious calls are held up rather than guys back in NY overthinking things.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I said the call was “correct”.

            Is the rule stupid?

            No argument there.

            But, as the rule is written, the call was correct.

            Has replay run amuck and been bastardized far beyond what was ever expected?

            That is for damn sure.

          • BerwynBomber

            Fair enough.

            Yeah, the whole notion of “indisputable” seems to have been lost on these reversals.

          • SC Dave

            That is my big complaint with it. The call on the field should be obviously wrong to overturn it.

          • AlbertInTucson

            You know my concept of Replay.

            Replay official has 30 seconds to review in real time only with no zoom in.

            On field officials have no say. No look. Just relay the ruling.

            Correct OBVIOUS gaffes. That’s what Replay is for.

            These ultra slo-mo, microscopic replays are horseshit and unfair and a disservice to the on-field Officials, the players and the fans

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, I completely agree about the microscopic bullshit. Even that one CAR TD today seemed like a very dubious overturn.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I thought they blew that.

            Didn’t the receivers ass straddle the end line?

            Screwed the Packers so I guess it’s OK.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          That set of rules sucks.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Correct call.

    • BerwynBomber

      Not.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Got too cute, Big Ben.

    • willbest

      Bummer

      • AlbertInTucson

        Yeah, I wanted OT for more possible Brady Gronk points.

    • BerwynBomber

      Yeah, got greedy and panicked a bit.

      What was weird is that it seemed that half of the Steelers O just froze. It looked like that was the lone receiver who continued his route.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Should have listened to Romo.

        • BerwynBomber

          Appears he didn’t panic and actually wished to spike it but Haley called the fake spike play into his headset.

          So stupid playcall more than anything else. Run a full play there and give R-berger options.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Ben should be smart enough not to toss it into a crowd like that.

          • Pretty Boy Assassin

            The words “Smart” and the name “Ben Rapelesburger” do not belong together in a sentence. Dude almost gave up his career by speeding in his motorcycle out of the Armstrong Tunnel. If you’ve ever been to Pittsburgh, you know how fucking stupid that is.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Motorcycle riding was stupid unto itself.

          • CanadaBear

            Can’t agree with that Al. There’s nothing like riding a MC. Certainly dangerous but manageable.

          • AlbertInTucson

            They might as well have bulls-eyes on there backs.

            They run them over regularly here in Tucson.

  • BerwynBomber

    Wow. I’ll never understand how that was not a catch.

    James catches the ball. His knee his down. And the ball breaks the plane. The fact that he bobbles it once he falls completely down should be immaterial.

    Helluva game though …

    • willbest

      Was he touched before he broke the plane?

      • BerwynBomber

        He was never touched period. And what would touching have to do with it? There are any TDs in which a player is never touched.

        He had possession when he broke the plane. Seemed obvious to me.

        A true headscratcher.

        • willbest

          I caught the replay. He absolutely made a football move after completing the process of a catch and then broke the plane. The ground fumble was then irrelevant. NFL fucked up.

          • AlbertInTucson

            He was going to the ground as he made the catch.

            That activates the utterly Byzantine definition of “A Catch”

          • willbest

            But he wasn’t going to the ground. he hit the ground, and then lunged forward. He could have just as easily just chilled there with his knee down and been touched and downed 2 yards short. His football move after completing the catch was to lunge at the endzone and break the plane. After that, it doesn’t matter what happens to the ball.

          • BerwynBomber

            It’s Dez Bryant all over again. But this time there was a plane the receiver broke so it was kind of even sillier.

        • SC Dave

          No headscratcher if it gave the Patriots a win.

      • AlbertInTucson

        No.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Dear Santa: I would like a football team that can compete with the big boys.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Sorry to tell you this, but Santa is not real.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Yeah, I never DID get that pony.

  • Dis Guy Trublinsky

    I hope Jimmy G goes on and has a long and prolific career while NE flounders in QB purgatory once Father Time claims Brady.

    • BerwynBomber

      G’s looking tough. Almost 400 yards of passing.

    • BearDown100393

      When Brady goes, so does Belichick.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Credible theory.

  • BerwynBomber

    Btw, Gronk was unstoppable that second half. Nothing like him when he gets going.

    The JJ Watt of TEs.

  • BerwynBomber

    That was most useful I’ve ever seen Dungy as an analyst.

    Good breakdown of the bad fake spike call by PIT. And the current reception rule, which as he stated all began with the league trying to justify the overturn of Megatron’s TD against us in ’10.

    • CanadaBear

      I thought the exact same thing when I watched. I was really surprised about the Megatron comment. 100% agree.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Robbie did it again today.

    • BerwynBomber

      Good for him. If Halas Hall had a team HoF, he’d deserve inclusion.

      He and Hester were quite the 1-2 ST punch back in the day.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Offhand, I can’t think of a better Bear kicker.

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    • SC Dave

      Cutting Robbie was a Really Stupid Thing. The dumbest thing since trading Olsen.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Robbie who?

      • willbest

        What makes you think Robbie wouldn’t have continued to be mediocre in Chicago?

  • AlbertInTucson

    FF Post…





    I need 27 “conventionally scored” points from the Cowboys tonight.

    • Pretty Boy Assassin

      And no sacks/fmbs/ints?

      • AlbertInTucson

        The league I’m in is incredibly basic/simple.

        Basically TDs, FGs and very limited yardage bonuses.

        I have the Cowboy kicker 2 nite.

        2 FGs and 3 PATs is what I need.

        FGs 50 or longer are worth 4 instead of 3.

        • AlbertInTucson

          The kicker on my bench is Oakland’s.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I did NOT need that INT, Dak.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Aaron Donald.

    3 sacks today.

    Bears missed him by 1 pick.

    Sigh.

    • SC Dave

      That dude is *good*

      • AlbertInTucson

        A beast.

        Like Tommy Harris before he got hurt.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Rams got to Wilson 7 Times today, including a strip.

          • BerwynBomber

            Ouch … ice bath for Wilson.

  • SC Dave

    For you guys with Amazon Prime, this is some good music for the season…

    https://music.amazon.com/albums/B0040EO9RW/CATALOG?do=play&ie=UTF8&qid=1513557102&albumAsin=B0040EO9RW

  • BerwynBomber

    Richardson to sell Panthers in wake of settlements and workplace allegations.

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21798557/carolina-panthers-owner-jerry-richardson-selling-nfl-team

    • AlbertInTucson

      He’ll need the cash.

      • willbest

        For what? They already settled with the employees. They can’t come back for more.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          did he settle with all employees or were there some hold outs?

          • willbest

            he supposedly settled with 4 but the stuff he has been accused of isn’t going to net any serious payout, even in class action form. Now if he has a matt lauer sex dungeon somewhere that will change things

          • AlbertInTucson

            Lauer’s behavior stunned me.

            I always thought he was a jerk but, jeez.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Didn’t realize he’d already shelled out.

          • willbest

            Its hard to get a sense from the nypost article I read how many women were involved. It could have been a handful or it could have been dozens.

      • willbest

        This is the Donald Sterling precedent.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Well I guess that’s a way to get Ginny to sell the team. Let’s get Ginny to sexually harass a couple people and then throw some racial slurs around.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Come on, Dan Bailey!

    • AlbertInTucson

      Yes!

  • BerwynBomber

    Derek Carr crashing back to earth this year. The Rodgers 2.0 suggestions always seemed laughable, but surprised he has been this mediocre.

    • Pretty Boy Assassin

      And Prescott crashes down to earth too. Given a mediocre cast (and Dez Bryant and a hot shit line), surprise surprise…he doesn’t look like the second coming.

      • BerwynBomber

        Agreed.
        Zeke makes that offense go.

    • AlbertInTucson

      The guy who really crashed was Amari Cooper.

      BAD case of “The Drops” this season before getting injured.

  • BerwynBomber

    Balllsy as hell call. Fourth and 11 deep in your own territory and you fake punt? Wow.

    • AlbertInTucson

      And that punter had to actually pick the right hole and go inside the end.

  • AlbertInTucson

    55 yard penalty.

    That rule needs to be changed, too.

    • BerwynBomber

      Yeah, never been a huge fan of the DPI spot foul stuff. That said, I wonder if there is an in-between it and college’s standard 15 yard.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I have no problem with the college rule.

        On the other hand, I think the college OT procedure stinks out loud.

    • willbest

      The problem is, then players would just flat out mug the WR because 15 yards is better than a 70% chance they complete a 55 yarder.

      The NFL could mitigate that problem if they were to expand their yellow/red card to include fouls that result in net benefits to the team committing the foul.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I get that, but there’s no equivalent penalty against offenses.

        Still plenty of long bombs in the college games and many of the PIs are kind of instigated by intentional underthrows.

        Penalizing half the length of the field, or more, is draconian.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I like it. The ball is snapped, the receiver begins his run … Kyle Fuller steamrolls the guy.

        Especially with seconds left on a clock, or like a minute. Just keep giving up 15 yarders rather than allow a play downfield.

  • AlbertInTucson

    FF Post
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    Damn.

    I needed OT.

  • BerwynBomber

    Carr just pulled a Cunningham.

    Said it before, but coaches have to start warning their players about stretching out the ball like that.

    Wouldn’t be surprised if NE has already had a lecture on it.

  • BerwynBomber

    Heckuva entertaining game …

    • AlbertInTucson

      So it was.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Surprised no one’s come forward to accuse Tirico of harassment, yet.

    He was disciplined in his early days at the 4 letter.

    Twice, according to one of those tell all books.

    • willbest

      Maybe he learned his lesson? Non-disclosures should be barred where criminal conduct is involved.

      The greatest value in a sexual harassment/assault payoff is it remaining secret. This allows a person to maintain their habits and leaves future women/men in the dark to who they are.

      • AlbertInTucson

        No argument, counselor.

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  • Irish Sweetness

    So I left Kareem Hunt on the bench in the semi-finals of my work league. You’d figure that’s all she wrote, right?

    But then Robbie Gould and Baltimore’s Defense combined for 54 points to win it for me. SWEET!

  • Shu

    I’d really love to see Pace go get DeFilippo. I think he’s a very similar guy to Pace.

    • BearDown100393

      What kind of a guy is Pace?

  • Tortured Bear fan

    if league wants to avoid player’s concussions, why don’t they take out helmet from uniform? just a question…

  • bob

    Pace is the one who put together this band of mediocre players. As for Fox, wish someone would put a shot of Geritol in his Gatorade and see if he would stop coaching an NFL team like it was a Shuffle Board game at the Old Folks Home.

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