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If Bears Pass On Early-Round Quarterback, They Pass On a Truly Relevant 2017

| March 20th, 2017

When a play is in development, going through the endless reading and workshop process that now defines the modern not-profit theatre landscape, it means the play is “not ready” to be seen by a paying audience. Whether or not the human file folders now running America’s once great theatres are artistically-equipped to make that decision is a topic for another column but their idea, an idea borne in the titanic mind of Joseph Papp, is you don’t have to fork over your $77 until they get it right.

If the 2017 Chicago Bears want to be anything more than in development, if they want to give their win-starved fans anything more than the roster is improving, there’s hope for the future, if they want this coming football season to be entertaining and exciting and inspiring and all those other words, they have to take a quarterback in the first two rounds of the NFL Draft.

Mike Glennon isn’t the guy. His numbers will be fine next year because Dowell Loggains’ offense managed to pull fine numbers out of Brian Hoyer and Matt Barkley, both massively limited. But Glennon is nothing but a placeholder. And the Bears – even with their general manager’s “fired up” commentary at the introductory press conference – know it. Despite misguided columns from people like Chris Burke at Sports Illustrated, the Bears are paying Glennon to be a middle of the road starter in 2017 and a backup in 2018. They’re commitment to him as a player is minimal, at best.

Ruling out the notion the Bears believe Glennon is a franchise quarterback (which would be insane), signing the quarterback can have two meanings:

  • The Bears believe there is a franchise quarterback in this draft and are not sure that guy will be ready to start on day one. Thus they needed a quarterback for 2017 and preferred one who doesn’t turn the ball over, giving their running attack and defense a chance to pile up some wins.
  • The Bears don’t believe this draft has “the guy” at quarterback and, ready to move on from Jay Cutler and seemingly everything that existed before Pace arrived in Chicago, they needed a bridge to the 2018 off-season.

This is a passage from Andrew Dannehy’s Glennon evaluation on this very website:

I went back to 2014 and tried to pick out three of Glennon’s better games and even his best games weren’t good. Out of 114 passes Glennon attempted in the two games, he was inaccurate on 36 percent of them, by far the worst rate of any quarterback — college of pro — I’ve studied so far. Even if you add in the Atlanta game from this past season, his inaccuracy rate is still well over 30%.

If the Bears pass on quarterback early in the 2017 draft, it means Glennon for 2017. But it also means that when the calendar changes to 2018 the Bears will still be unsettled at the most important position in professional sports. Until this franchise answers the quarterback question, sustained success will be an impossibility, a pipe dream straight from the pages of The Iceman Cometh. (Which I’d argue could have used a reading or two. We get it, pipe dreams are bad. Four hours?)

Teams that don’t have their guy at quarterback have one-off successes here and there but they’ll never be consistently competitive. They’ll also be perpetually in development.

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  • Any QB that is sub 60% (Really, anything below 63% depending on scheme) is worrying (Orton 59%)

    But, some of Glennon’s supporters could counter.

    1. He was still young and learning
    2. It was more of a vertical attack
    3. Lovie-d

    I agree with Jeff though. Glennon’s a bridge for…

    • King of DBB

      Well since they picked up John Jenkins it’s improbable they take Allen at 3.

      • MB30SD

        Tah dah!

      • Bender McLugh

        hopefully

      • SC Dave

        Wow! An optimist!

      • Irish Sweetness

        Being a tweener, it’s improbable they take him ….

    • willbest

      His yards per attempt don’t really indicate a vertical pass attack.

      • Which is what worries me, but could be that he was throwing deep behind shitty line and scheme. It was Lovie after all.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Terry Bradshaw. 4 rings. 51.9%
      Dan Marino. 59.1%
      John Elway 56%
      Kenny Stabler – 47.1%

      And the list goes on and on …..

      • Any SB winning QBs after the steam engine was created that had sub >60%?

        (Don’t say Dilfer)

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Eli Mannings was sub 60 during the regular season when he won his 1st SB.
          Peyton Manning was sub 60 for his last SB.
          Joe Flacco

  • MB30SD

    Pass on early​ cuck

    Draft bpa+need @ #3 please

    • Sahr Gborie

      bpa is defense
      need is qb/cb/safety/te

      • MB30SD

        Dood doooooood.

        NEED is QB?!?! We just paid some Fucking chicken necked cuck $18M for one year. QB is NOT need. Want maybe, but def not need.

        Need is: FS/CB/DL/SS/TE

        In that order. (MIGHT be able to swap CB and DL IFF our FA pick ups pan out, but we aren’t clairvoyant so…)

        • leftcoast dave

          Nooooooo! Look at the 2 pick last year and see what that has done for the middle? I love Long, but he is dinged up and Sitton will not live forever. Grassu? Our T’s? Why were Dak and Zeke so successful, or Howard for that matter this year? OOOOOLLLLLL,

          Do the math. Look at the value charts. Our 3 pick can be traded down enough times to turn three picks from the first to the top of the third into six picks from mid to lower first through top of the third. That’s three more players in the second or high third round.

          I think Pace has his sights set on OT and LB. Lots of others on your list available and top talent through three rounds.

          • MB30SD

            I think you’re crazy, but wtf do I know.

            If we took cam robinson I would be ok with that… or foster. As long as we get the #1 guy at that position in the draft, and it’s a position of need.

          • Every fan of every team wants to trade down.

            That means every GM of every team feels the same.

            History has shown it happens, but usually a top QB, WR or Edge guy tempt teams to move up, but there really isn’t a Wentz/Julio/Edge type to tempt teams to want the #3.

            Now, need causes desperate maneuvers, so never know, but I’m not holding my breath about the trade down.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Watch Jordan Howard’s tape. BIG holes and running lanes.

          • Captain Obvious

            Trading out of the 1st round entirely is a bad idea. Last time we did it, we got Danieallle Manning and Hester as our top picks.

            In fact, the years the Bears don’t have a 1st round pick have been disastrous for the franchise.

            Trade down, sure, but not out.

            And the biggest problem with trading down is that you have to have a partner who wants to trade up. Good luck with that when a lot of teams don’t have high grades on QBs, and feel like the BPA who falls to them later in the 1st will be fine.

        • Sahr Gborie

          just answer this question: is glennon-cide the qb of the future?

          if the answer is no then qb is a need. the #1 need unitl and unless we build a stellar d and st that plays lights out and wins every game for us

          • MB30SD

            doooooon’t caaaaaare.

            Is watson? Trubinski?

            We don’t know, but it’s not worth the risk in a weak class. What does waiting one year for a MUCH stronger class (by all/multiple accounts) matter. We paid for Glennon… we got him… not fix everything else and get your franchise guy next year when you’ve at least mitigated your risk in taking a QB high.

          • Sahr Gborie

            Watson is the best of the bad class. if you don’t take the risk of drafting him or someone you will never get a QB. we cant keep putting this off anymore. we have to keep drafting until you get our guy. we cant not take a guy just because its a bad class. find the best qb in the bad class

          • MB30SD

            I don’t agree at all, but that’s ok.

            You’re going to use your #3 pick in the draft to get a guy who’s ranked as the ~15 best player available in the draft. Trubinski is ranked ahead of him in most rankings. So with the #3 pick you’re going to pass up at least, for shits and giggles let’s say 10 other better players?

            Because you think we need to take a QB THIS year…. even though we just paid a guy $19M?!

            Yeah, that makes absolutely zero sense to me and if If I’m pace I’m running the opposite direction from that career fucking death sentence.

          • Sahr Gborie

            I don’t like the idea of using the #3 pick on bum class of QB’s. I would rather go D (Garrett/Thomas/Allen/Adams/Hooker) in 2017 and go all in on S.Darnold in 18.

            1. However we cant keep trotting out these bum QB’s.
            2. These so called draft experts don’t know jack squat. They are making leaps of faith. Mitchell.T has 1 year of playing experience. No thanks. Watson has 3 years. Plus 2 bowl games. Its not even a competition between the two.
            3. We dont know how the season will turn out. We could go lights out and make our way into the playoffs and by some magic the SB. Or we could suck serious ass and get the #1 pick in 18. Most likely we will be middle of the road making it very difficult to move up without sacrificing massive amounts of future pics.

          • Irish Sweetness

            How do you go “all-in” on a dude who doesn’t even look all that? Give up three firsts you mean? Fuck that noise.

          • Jeff argues the drafting QB high theory too. He contends

            1. A good QB is far superior to a HOFer defender
            2 The draft is mainly luck, so why not just give yourself more lottery tickets?

            I think he said something like, just keep drafting QBs however and wherever till one sticks.

            It’s an interesting theory, and to a certain extent, it’s true. The NFL has so heavily handicapped the D and favored the QB that it’s now come to that.

            Just look at the last SB.

            As bears fans, we want that dominant D, run game, and ballsy QB [see, 85] but fuck, that’s a TALL order.

            And the modern NFL is built around QB, for better or worse.

            What if this happens:

            Bears draft Trubisky in the 1st, Peterman in the 3rd.
            Still have Glennon start this year

            That’s 3 lotto tickets right there.

            If Glennon flames out, throw in Trub or Peterman next season.

            Rinse wash repeat.

            Seems excessive, but Jeff is right in that the only way to be consistently competitive in the NFL is to have that QB.

            The rest coaching, draft, FA and the such can compensate for it.

          • MB30SD

            i need to stop watching the NFL, it’s turning into abject garbage.

          • I was watching the NO-9ers playoff game on NFLN last week.

            That 9er D had Hitner and Goldston at S.

            Aints were just marching down the field at will. Then, one of their WR went across the middle near the goaline.

            Then, this happened.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss2dn_QI5kE

            9ers recovered. Stopped the momentum. Went up by like 17 (still lost).

            That hit didn’t even draw a flag. Seems like 50 years ago, but that game was in 2012 or something.

            On the other side, the Aint’s D wasn’t all-world, but it had this guy patrolling the back end on a Gregg Williams bounty team.

            http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d823176e7/article/panthers-smith-needs-no-apology-from-saints-harper-for-late-hit

            That’s the same guy who speared I forget who on the Bears (Bennett?) and he was never the same.

            But that’s just not the NFL anymore. Now, Brews and Brady can indeed hit those little fuckers crossing the middle all day with impunity cuz safeties are no longer allowed to enforce.

            Diff game, maings.

          • It was Bennett.

            And Bennett still held on to the ball.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLneKSZ-EXE

          • MB30SD

            Yep, and I’m close to being done. A few more years of bears shitdome and I’ll be all out

          • MB30SD

            Dude, that first video with the surprise cameo cracked me the fuck up

          • haha yeah, surprised me too. Whoever did that is a genius.

            That wasn’t even the biggest hit in the game. Navarro, Willis, Hitner, and Harper and gang on the other side. There were some fucking balling going on.

            The odd part watching that was that those guys were looking for TOs. Standing up runners stripping, punching, crushing, jumping routes. It was aggressive.

            I don’t know how the fuck that DC is our DC. Could it be just talent?

            Irish always points out that Fangio doesn’t blitz, and it’s true.

            But maybe Fangio is trapped in some time warp where defenses were allowed to crush fools.

            So Fangio says, “ok, I’ll give you that 5 yd route, but my dudes are gonna make you pay, and eventually, fear and turnovers will win out”

            But can’t make receivers pay anymore, so now it’s just death by slants.

            Dunno. But looking at that game, then looking at our D…same DC, totally diff results.

          • MB30SD

            Yeah, I literally LALZED.

            I remember watching that game. I jumped up and yelled when he made that hit. BOOM!

            Yeah man, I think it HAS to be talent. I mean look at that line up. insanely packed, willis, bowman, brooks, the smiths, hittner, harper, etc… etc…

            Put that talent up against what we have. night and day.

            That said, adapt fangio you tool. you don’t have those guys, try something different.

          • MB30SD

            I mean, look at this shit man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lwaEiMtdFA

            DEEEEUUUUMMM!!!

          • That Jets got bent bad. Ouch.

            Yeah, where the fuck is THAT D!?

            Gimme some of that shitz

          • MB30SD

            Exactfuckingly.

            That’s what happens when you have a Patrick Willis in the middle, half that highlight tape was him

          • Irish Sweetness

            But he’s last in the league over the last two years for takeaways, so he’s not even doing that. What he is doing … is failing badly.

            SF? Different players man. The only reason people have heard of Fangio is because of Smith Willis Bowman etc. I think the guy is a muppet.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Keep drafting QBs .. .where? In the first?

          • If I interpreted Jeff correctly, anywhere possible.

            Jeff, and some others, argue if Pace believes Watson is THE guy at #3, draft him.

            If he sucks.

            Draft another one.

            The redskins protocol with RG3 and Cousins in the 4rth.

          • Irish Sweetness

            But rankings mean nothing MB, they prove that every single year.

          • MB30SD

            sure bud. you go all in on RG IV, I’ll take Jamal Adams.

          • Irish Sweetness

            If I had the choice? Fournette. But Adams is a guy you could trade back and get.

            Using your own rationale, #3 is very very high to draft a SS, no? If we don’t draft Adams at 3, he likely won’t go until close to or after 10.

            If you want Adams – a nice pick – you trade back if you can, and then draft him. You can use one of the extra picks to grab Budda Baker. How about that?

          • MB30SD

            No. Check most of the mocks, he’s seen as a 2 – 6 latest pick. The top safety in the draft and he’s been compared to berry.

            Check the overall draft order by player rank/score. I think he’s 6th

          • Irish Sweetness

            Because we might be 8-8 and out of the race. If you want to draft a QB, this is the year, because we have the pick.

          • MB30SD

            not if there isn’t a QB worth a #3 dude. that’s the issue, you don’t pull a redskins and take RG IV with the 3rd pick… you just don’t unless you want to be the Browns.

            So you’ll probably get your fucking wish! HA!

          • Irish Sweetness

            So we don’t draft Watson/Trubisky because of some arbitrary grade imposed on them … by .. .whom? Both of those guys will be good QBs one day, they already have the tangibles ….

          • MB30SD

            By people who watch football players come from college to the pros every single year for a long time and get paid to do so.

            Data even came up with a mathematical equation based on real history/facts.

            Of course every player is a crap shoot, but you’re willing to stake your career on something that all the experts say doesn’t even come close? I wouldn’t be.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Disagree. When Garret is gone, why are Thomas or Allen BPA over Fournette?

        CB is a need? We just signed Prince and Cooper! Also signed a TE and Miller is healthy.

  • Reminder: less than 10% of QBs drafted after round 2 become a solid starter.

    If you want your guy, the odds are much higher from investing a high pick. So Jeff is 100% right here.

    • leftcoast dave

      Build it and they will come. Build the team. Build a great D. Run the ball. See what the kid can do. Gamble on a QB in a down QB year?

      Keep your powder dry and get the value you can. A monster LB can be had in the middle rounds. Lots of great players in the second and third at S, CB, WR, TE, DL, but you want a T, first round kid out of Wisconsin.

      Pick Jim Harbaugh from Iowa (C. J. Beathard) in the sixth.

      • MB30SD

        Jeeeesssss. This.

        Then go big next year on QB, wr, and the if we don’t find a good one this year

      • I would argue they have the team. The OL and RB are very good, as is the front 7. Secondary will be improved, D overall should be good.

        With a solid QB, this is a playoff contender.

        • Irish Sweetness

          The RB is singular though, and has an obvious defect (lacks petrol). Players get injured, and we have NO running game if Jordan goes down.

          For me, that’s a need. You can’t have a running game with ONE back. Especially when that back hasn’t got hands.

          • That’s fair. I don’t like the depth at RB. I especially think they need a scat back/3rd down kind of guy, who’s a speed guy that can be dangerous with 10-12 touches a game between run and pass. Langford’s not that guy, IMO.

            I just don’t see the value in investing a top 5 pick in a RB, much less when you already have your #1 back on the roster. This isn’t the 1980s anymore.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Defense. Balls of steel, and a running game. Simple recipe.

    • Bender McLugh

      shouldn’t that be 90% correct?

    • Irish Sweetness

      I’m good with Watson or Trubs if they make that move.

  • BearDown100393

    This is what I want to hear from Pace, “Look guys, we had to get rid of Jay. I know some of you are not happy about that. Had to be done. The best I could do was Glennon. Yeah, I know. Mike f*cking Glennon. Quarterbacks in this year’s draft are kind of meh. So we’re stuck at QB for now. But things change fast in this league. And when something comes along that is better than Mike f*cking Glennon, I’ll jump on it. I promise. In the meantime, I’m building up a beast mode defense with Vic. Hang in there. Bear down.”

    • King of DBB

      He’s not going to badmouth a QB he just paid for in a multi-year deal. But if he takes Trubisky I think everyone will understand what the score is, including Glennon. The Bucs made a tender offer for Glennon, so he came here to get PAID (show him the money) and he can go back to the Bucs in 3 years, no hard feelings, while he mentors the LT guy.

      I am thinking Rnd 1-2 will be Trubinsky and then Budda Baker, moving Amos to low safety.

      • CanadaBear

        He’s back! You’ll be shocked to know you didn’t miss much. Welcome back amigo.

        • King of DBB

          Thanks. MB convinced me that blocking Will and Dave (which I have) would make things tolerable. Thank God disqus added block.

          • Johnnywad

            Not sure what good these smart phones are if not for looking at pictures of cats and arguing with strangers on the internet.

          • CanadaBear

            Up until some new joker showed up the only people I’ve blocked were the spammers. Gotta say it works good for ignoring the new joker.

          • Other than $97, I haven’t blocked anyone. I simply no longer read certain posters.

            There’s this little widget on the right hand side. It’s a great creation.

            I think the kiddos call it the “scroll bar”.

          • Irish Sweetness

            We have to intercept and execute that $97 cunt.

            I’m calling Neeson. He has a particular set of skills.

          • fishing florida

            Blocking us will not save you!!!!

          • SC Dave

            Call it mutual.

          • willbest

            I find his attitude amusing because half his posts were directed at me “Hey will, Russians…”

          • SC Dave

            Just block him, it will be more tolerable around here. Maybe once in a while I’ll miss his football posts, but the significant drop in political tripe is a welcome change.

          • willbest

            meh. Despite how serious MB thinks I am, I don’t get too worked up over what other people say.

          • fishing florida

            We will not discriminate against any who have been blocked. We will represent all that have been blocked and haunt the dreaded blockers. Because we are making $97 an hour and driving Landrovers. Blocked Users DESERVE a voice.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Can’t we all just get along. GROUP HUG!!!

          • Irish Sweetness

            What’s the post above this comment saying??

            Just kidding. Welcome back bro.

      • BearDown100393

        Of course he won’t. I just want Pacebot to have a Bulworth moment of honesty.

        • Pacebot programmed to do no harm to Bears QB.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Ah, Bulworth. A politician with a conscience. Hollywood, eh??

    • SC Dave

      But what if he actually believes Glennon could be “the guy”?

      • BearDown100393

        Well he did say he was fired up.

      • Sahr Gborie

        bring out the pitch forks….i have extras if anyone needs em

        • SC Dave

          I’d prefer to see what happens first.

      • Pace wins either way.
        If Glennon goes full Oz this season, Fox and co are gone and. Pace still was able to address needs in draft and hires his guys In 18 including new QB.

    • Sahr Gborie

      if he does that then i don’t want him as gm. I need a gm with a poker pace

    • Irish Sweetness

      Did they have to get rid of Jay? The only thing makes me think they did, are his injuries.
      He still hasn’t been been signed. And if the Jets just signed McCown, it must be the injuries.

  • Bender McLugh

    so IF a QB at #3, or trade back to draft a QB but still with the first pick, who would you rather they get? Waiting till next year is not an option in this hypothetical…
    -Kiser
    -Watson
    -other?

    • Bender McLugh

      the answer is……no one fucking cares

    • Sahr Gborie

      trade back and stay in the first im taking Watson if he is still available

      • Bender McLugh

        agreed

    • Irish Sweetness

      Trubisky and Watson might have the skills with a little time. Folk aren’t high on them because they’re not ready, but they will be. And Glennon/Shaw are in pace already.

  • Johnnywad

    I will shit if we trade back. I will actually shit in my pants.

    Take the fucking player you want, and start thinking about the next one.

    Years ago I sold real estate. When rates fell through the floor, I was still watching people take out 5/1 Arm loans and the like. They were gambling that despite rates at historic lows, and against my advice, they could do better by somehow re-setting the clock down the road and praying the rates would be better. Pretty fucking stupid.

    It’s the same thing as trading back from 3.

    • SC Dave

      I like the analogy

    • BearDown100393

      Has Pace ever traded down?

      • willbest

        You mean last year when he traded back in the second twice before picking up Whitehair and everybody was pissed he didn’t take XYZ?

        • Johnnywad

          There’s a huge difference between trading back in the second and trading back from the 3rd overall pick.

          • willbest

            He has only had 2 drafts, its hard to determine trends with only two data points. But he has:
            1) Moved up for a player he believes in
            2) Moved down to pick up picks
            3) Traded vets for low round picks
            4) drafted positions we don’t need because he thinks the person he is drafting is a playmaker

        • Irish Sweetness

          I’d still take Henry. We had Grasu – he was our Center. Whitehair was a tackle we drafted to play Guard ….

          • willbest

            WH was drafted to replace slausen. Turns out Garsu couldn’t handle the extra weight and lost his job

    • evantonio

      what if we go from 3 to 6 and get an extra 2nd in the process? and we still get our guy?

      • Johnnywad

        Then we got the wrong guy.

        • MB30SD

          OH SNAP!!!

          I tend to agree… unless we get an extra HIGH 2nd and a HIGH 3rd (or a high and low second), not worth it. Just take your guy maings.

          • Johnnywad

            I want a stone cold killer at 3. Nothing less.

          • MB30SD

            very much in on that plan.

            So what’s your list? I don’t want to lead the witness, but mine is:

            Adams
            Lattimore (again, don’t love the chronic hammy issues, but he seems to be the consensus)
            Foster
            Howard
            Robinson

            prolly in that order.

          • Johnnywad

            I don’t watch enough college ball to make a list. If Pace thinks Watson is a real QB. He better get him. Short of that I’m with you on a Safety follow by a LB or T.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Is Foster a Lawrence Taylor? That’s a bit high isn’t it? He’s small too, just watching his tape now. 3 is high for a TE too.

            We could draft Jarrad Davis much later than Foster.

            Foster did meet with Da Bears.

            https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/alabama-football/report-former-alabama-lb-reuben-foster-meeting-bears/

          • MB30SD

            Watch Foster’s national championship tape. He was a man among boys. JUMPED off the screen

          • Irish Sweetness

            Apparently nobody is interested in the back-of-backs. Curious.

      • Irish Sweetness

        That could happen with Trubisky or Watson. Easily.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Nah, mang. You turn one pick .. which you could potentially waste on a guy like Allen … and turn it into Budda Baker and Malik McDowell for starters .. and STILL have two picks in the first next year. One of which might get you the hype machine, if that floated your boat.

      Mind you, none of that gets you Fournette.

      Do you draft Walter Payton at #3? Yes, you do. This guy will be better.

      • CanadaBear

        Did you just say Fournette will be better than Walter? Take a fucking pill man.

  • King of DBB
    • fishing florida

      Protect the jerseys. BUILD THE WALL!!!!

    • Tortured Bear fan

      bring one more metre to that damn wall

    • CanadaBear

      I liked that Kraft said it was the same as having a Chagall or a Picasso stolen. Really? A fucking football jersey is the same as a famous piece of art? Fuck you Kraft. Get a little perspective!

      • BerwynBomber

        The long, national nightmare is over …

      • willbest

        That seems a bit of a stretch relative to the classics, but I would venture it is much more culturally significant than a bratty girl with the face of a woman being placed in front of a bronze bull.

    • MB30SD

      Without them, we would have nothing in Cali… especially so cali.

      • willbest

        You need them to prop up your real estate prices?

  • King of DBB

    If you still thought Jonathan Allen was a possibility, take a look at this:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/20/ricky-jean-francois-met-with-bears-over-the-weekend/

    Good News? The guy can play, Snyder let his thin skin drive the decision to let him go:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/15/criticism-from-ricky-jean-francois-may-have-contributed-to-his-release/

    might be a solid line addition there.

    • MB30SD

      Shake & Bake!

  • BerwynBomber

    “Mike Glennon isn’t the guy. His numbers will be fine next year because Dowell Loggains’ offense managed to pull fine numbers out of Brian Hoyer and Matt Barkley, both massively limited.”

    Loggains’ offense did NOT — repeat did NOT — “pull fine numbers” out of Matt Barkley; in fact, they were quite dreadful. As were Jay Cutler’s.

    Only Hoyer had good #s last year.

    • willbest

      I believe it was ~14.5 ppg Cutler, ~16 ppg Hoyer, and ~20 ppg for Barkley.

      The goal with Glennon then is to get Barkley’s down field ability without his turnover proclivity. Which is at least theoretically possible. Really the Bears have just been historically bad in terms of injuries, lack of TO’s and lack of points. I know football seasons are more like coin flips, but you tend to expect some sort of regression to the mean this season. At least if you assume a degree of competence in Pox.

      • CanadaBear

        I’ve got some faith in Pace. Fox, not so much.

        • MB30SD

          dis

        • jes

        • Irish Sweetness

          ??? Fox is proven. Pace is not.

          Fox can do things with non-stellar QBs. It’s his M.O.

      • BerwynBomber

        Judging ppg for QBs is a little dubious in that you simply don’t know the context of said points, which is why stats dudes rely on traditional PR and/or the newer QBR. So I was only referencing those, which were:

        Hoyer: 65 QBR, 98 PR
        Barkley: 46 QBR, 68 PR
        Cutler: 29 QBR, 78 PR

        • willbest

          But we aren’t comparing QB’s exactly. We want to know how good the OC is. And looking at ppg is a good way to judge Loggains. I guess its also interesting to note that Cutler/Hoyer were early in the year and Barkley was the last 5-6 games.

          • BerwynBomber

            HIGHLY doubtful that Jeff’s quoted statement referred to ppg. And even if it did the numbers you quote do not back up his claim.

          • willbest

            We can agree on that. Jeff’s 180 on Cutler, Jeffery, Glennon happened so fast I thought I was on crazy pills. He is in Bears homer mode. I only have 4 pre-seasons to judge him on but that seems about par for the course.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Now let’s compare situations … it’s 3rd and 15, the TE runs a deep out .. Hoyer drops back .. .and realizes he can’t actually play football and hit the receiver in question. Cutty nails it in that scenario or is off-center.

        • SC Dave

          Well, Hoyer and Barkley have contacts, so there’s that.

      • Irish Sweetness

        But Cutler > Hoyer > Barkley …. PPG depends on the defenses you play.

    • MB30SD

      mmmmmm, hooooooyeeeeerrrr!!!!

    • Irish Sweetness

      And how misleading Hoyer’s numbers were. They’d make you think he should actually be on a football field ….

      • SC Dave

        Hoyer has a contract with SF, and Jay has one with, um…

  • BearDown100393

    Block Twitter.

    • Son of Crown

      I have blocked certain phrases and letters so I only see:
      *ock T*itt**
      I can only assume you typed cock titties

      • Are you really Crown’s son?

        Would this be the first “generational” Bears Blogger?

        • SC Dave

          Unlikely.

  • King of DBB

    Excellent sideline pursuit. The music will get you pumped.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl3EAGuIZLs

    I think we’ll put this guy across from Floyd and McPhee will be situational, Houston is gone and Young will sideline a lot more.

    This guy is Lamar Woodley 2.0 and a perfect SOLB for 3-4

    • Bender McLugh

      yeah buddy, wouldn’t be sad about him being the pick. Still want Hooker though.

      • MB30SD

        have you told this to your wife?

        • Bender McLugh

          oh yes, she’s on board.

          • MB30SD

            Keeeeeper!

    • Solomon cutting QBs in half

      (eh eh? Where else do you get that, GP?!)

      You know who he reminds me of? Terrell Suggs. Not a combine monster, but the tape is vicious.

      That’s actually why Suggs fell a bit. He too was ‘undersized’ (6’3 262) and ran a slow ass 40,

      http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=1790&draftyear=2003&genpos=de

      but all he did was making fucking plays.

      I would be stoked for Solomon no matter what the draftniks say.

  • MB30SD
    • Johnnywad

      Do you believe it? I don’t. I don’t believe a damn thing I read about him one way the other anymore.

      Every day, just for fun, I open CNN and Fox News back to back. Just for the hell of it. You’d think they were covering major news from different planets. It’s a joke. I would not even know where to search for real information anymore. So I don’t. Not sure what I’d do with it if I found it. So ya got the truth. Now what?

      • willbest

        I find it fascinating for a better understanding of history. Because I had a hard time understanding how certain wars started, and I feel that the last 2 years have cleared them up nicely.

        GP can’t even be bothered to be challenged when he specifically seeks it out. It will be very easy for him to believe “they” are evil.

      • Seems straight forward poll:

        “Gallup tracks daily the percentage
        of Americans who approve or disapprove of Trump’s job performance. The
        daily results are based on telephone interviews with about 1,500
        national adults and have a margin of error of 3 percentage points.”

        Naturally, one can investigate WHERE they called and WHAT specifically they asked, but if it’s truly random, that’s pretty damning.

        I think if Fox were to run a same poll with same method, they’d get similar results.

        I doubt Trump even sniffs 50% approval just cuz more Americans voted for Hillary to start with, even though they didn’t like it (including Reps), so they’re pretty die-hard Anti-Trump no matter what.

        • willbest

          I suppose it would be damning if you never looked at a gallup chart for Obama’s approval rating.

          http://cdn.thefiscaltimes.com/sites/default/files/gallup_obama_rating-03102016.png

          Its not surprising Trump’s are lower considering the universal negative coverage he is getting.

          • et tu…

            Yes, but the great New World Order conspiracy still couldn’t brainwash ppl into electing Hill.

            In other words, ppl feel what they feel regardless of media (and considering how popular Fox is, many aren’t getting an overwhelming negative narrative on Trump).

            I think sometimes politicians overestimate the power of the media, and underestimate the individual’s core belief in that storm.

            If the war goes badly enough, the fuhrer will be deposed regardless of propaganda.

            Ppl aren’t that stupid.

          • willbest

            But she did win the popular vote. The country just isn’t divided uniformly. And I think its hard to look at what is going on in Europe and not realize that this is a sentiment that is happening across Pax Americana. And their press is just as hostile to the nationalists there.

          • I could easily see those 2mil or so voters being disaffected republicans who aren’t tuning in to MSNBC. And more than expected Latinos voted for Trump, while af am seemed to stay home.

            What changed? CNN, Fox and MSNBC are rather consistent in their coverages and bias.

            It was the candidates and reality which they reacted to more so than the media “brainwashing”.

            I would be surprised if the avg voter even watches the news on a daily basis.

            Most are just watching youtube videos of cats and Orange is the New Black on Netflix.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Lefties should watch Righties-news, and vice versa …. no confirmation bias.

          • Irish Sweetness

            “Ppl aren’t that stupid.”

            People accepted Hillary/Trump as their choice, and then refused to accept the winner. People aren’t that smart?

        • Johnnywad

          Didn’t Gallup have Clinton winning in a landslide 12 hours before she lost?

          • willbest

            Gallup didn’t do horserace polling this time. They had Trump with -27 favorable and and Clinton with -17 favorable on the eve of the election though.

          • I think EVERY ‘poll’ had Clinton ahead.

            The only one I know of that had Trump winning was the one conducted over here in liberal L.A. headed by USC.

            I think the theory is that when people were asked if they’d vote for Trump, they were ASHAMED to say yes, so that threw off the accuracy.

            But haven’t read too in depth about that since it’s more or less irrelevant.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            It is all proof the Russians rigged the election. Unfortunately the Russians were infiltrated by the Tall Whites back in the ’90s. So this is the product of our alien overlords intervening. I really wish the alien overlords followed Starfleet’s Prime Directive.

          • You laugh about the Russians, but the “breaches” are real.

            https://www.c-span.org/video/?196420-4/robert-hanssen-spy-case

            Dunno about Tall Whites, but White Russians , delicious!

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            You are right to be suspicious of the Tall Whites their control has been slipping over the last decade. And we all know that the Lizard People have been trying to gain more control and have made steady advances in places like North Korea and China. Russia is on their list of targets.

          • SC Dave

            Um, no. Kim Jong Il was clearly a cockroach, as exposed by Stone and Parker.

            Well, a Zypod, actually…

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udS6losK7Ts

        • Cormonster

          I’ve generally trusted Rasmussen polls over Gallup for quite some time. They don’t seem to have the wild swings that Gallup and others do. Rasmussen has had Trump pretty consistently with upper 40’s to mid 50’s in approval polls. 49% right now. Obama was only above 50% in his second term just after he got elected again and during the lame duck part of his term at the end. He was above 50% for maybe 4 months during his second term. He even was as low as the mid 30’s in approval for a period of his second term.

          All that said, I don’t usually put much stock in polls.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Nor should you my friend ….

    • BearDown100393

      Gallup is a terrible poll. Just terrible. Complete lies. And it is very boring. Very overrated.

      • MB30SD

        bigly

  • Sahr Gborie

    New Mock Draft with alternate picks
    http://www.scout.com/nfl/bears/story/1764397-bears-seven-round-mock-draft-v20

    1. Thomas DL/EDGE- alt QB Watson
    2. Mahomes QB – alt S Budda Baker
    3. Kevin King CB – alt WR Carlos Henderson

    if that is our first three pick im happy.

    • MB30SD

      1. Adama or Thomas
      2. Baker or BPA CB
      3. BPA CB or Obiwannareallybigsafety

      how’s that shit! BOOM!

      • SC Dave

        Except obi wont last that long.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Eh, wassup. BPA CB? Surely BPA is just … BPA …?

        • MB30SD

          Best player available… At your biggest position of need.

          Not that difficult, no?

  • willbest

    Kyle Long vouches for Solomon Thomas, thats good enough for me.

  • Friendly reminder that college production ain’t the end all.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/20/saints-close-to-deal-with-linebacker-manti-teo/#comments

    interwebz winner of the day

    “New Orleans is perfect for [T’eo]… Plenty of Catfish there!”

  • fishing florida

    cutler gone! a great day in bears hist…. awe hell, TBH, we don’t like that guy either. Fuck him in his face.

  • MB30SD

    http://www.si.com/nfl/2017/03/15/nfl-mock-draft-order-picks-quarterbacks-needs

    Chris Burke thinks we take lattimore over thomas. Hmmmmm…. I’d probably ok with either, although chronic hammy issues don’t just go away

    • King of DBB

      Foster to the Bungles, pair him with Burfict. Perfect.

      • MB30SD

        he’s just an entitled little twerp, like the rest of the fucking millennials. I don’t think he’s a thug. In fact, isn’t he supposed to be a team leader?

        • King of DBB

          No, he’s no VIP on the Swole rollin dirty – he’s just a punk with a BMOC complex.

          But if there is a character issue, Marvin Lewis WANTS THAT GUY.

          • MB30SD

            fair point.

          • Marvin has a knight and shining armor complex.

          • Johnnywad

            BOTH?!!! Holy shit. He should get those looked at.

          • MB30SD

            hee hee

        • Jocks since time immemorial have been entitled holes.

          “This Milo of Croton walks around the olympics with his cock swinging like he is Zeus himself” – Plato, 452 BCE

          • Johnnywad

            That’s what I would do if I was Milo and had a huge cock……….

          • MB30SD

            meh, one outta two for me is fine.

            (my real name isn’t milo)

          • Johnnywad

            Hahahaha. “MB just strolls around the second Olympics. Cock just swingin. Bangin into tables and pole vaults and shit. Knockin over balance beams by accident.”

          • MB30SD

            “Oh shit, sorry man…. so sorry”

            (turns around to get out of the way, and….)

            “Oh god, I’m sorry, I really didn’t mea… sorry sorry.”

          • CanadaBear

            The greasy Italian guy in the movie Eurotrip. Mi Scuse!

          • In Milos’ defense, the original olympics were in the nude, so better come packing!

    • That’s why I was wondering if Pace takes “depth” into account, but Lattimore certainly screams Pacebot. Dude ran a 4.36

      “Average-sized, one-year starter with explosive athleticism and a loaded tool box.”

      http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/marshon-lattimore?id=2558061

      A. 1-yr starter? Check
      B. Athletic? Check
      C. Inj prone? Check

      But all those CBs we signed in FA make me think otherwise.

      If we do go Lattimore, I’d like to see Porter move to FS and let the youngins have at the WRs.

      • MB30SD

        Yeah, I hope we don’t.

        It’s pretty easy. Pick Adams or Thomas if those are the guys still there. Boom! instant legend GM and winner of the draft.

        If you’re gonna get all emery-jiggy wid it, go with one of these surprise picks: Foster, Robinson, Howard

        Still… legend! Can’t lose. Anything outside of that group and he’s a fucking idiot who deserves to lose his gig.

        • MB30SD

          I include Watson/Trubinski in that last part. You don’t risk your career on guys who’ve been seen as iffy man. You just don’t. If we hadn’t picked up giraffee neck, maybe… but now!? why the fuck did you pay 19 instead of 6 if you were going to take one of those guys anyway.

          • You and I were leading the Hoya for $5m bandwagon, so preaching to da converted there.

            But, I gotta think that maybe Hoyer didn’t want to stay in Chicago. If Pace straight out told him the Bears are drafting a QB high soon, maybe Hoya figured he had a better chance of starting in SF where he reunites with his old coach.

            In which case, Glennon is the best option from a fucked up QB landscape.

            The $ to Glennon I don’t think matters much to us this year cuz lots of FAs view us as losers, so a few more mil wasnt going to land major names anyways.

            Only way all that changes is to win.

          • MB30SD

            Yeah… Guess we’ll never know

          • BearDown100393

            When your name is Brian Hoyer, you write your own ticket in the NFL.

          • Irish Sweetness

            To Concrete, Washington, where there’s a new Taco Bell opening ….

      • Irish Sweetness

        I’ve just watched Lattimore’s tape. Don’t watch any college games, and all I have is YT videos, but that man does not exactly scream ‘draft me” at #3.

      • Bender McLugh

        hmmm Porter instead of Fuller at FS? hmmmmm

  • MB30SD
    • Johnnywad

      Because it’s not the Thompson Way you relentless SOB.

      • MB30SD

        It *IS* the thompson way Johnny.

        It’s actually core TWSP (Thompson Way Strategy & Process)

  • King of DBB

    Richard Hammond is insane. Brain trauma that nearly killed him (if you read his book, he was minutes from dying and the brain surgeon had to relieve pressure on his swelling by drilling on him immediately)

    And now he’s riding a motorbike and falling off and bumping his head with no freakin helmet

    https://www.metroguiltypleasures.com/metro/clarkson-richard-really-did-hurt-himself-quite-badly/

    • MB30SD

      SMH… maybe it’s brain trauma from the first crash?

  • CanadaBear

    Anybody see the GGG fight? i read he barely won.

    • BerwynBomber

      From what I read he clearly won. Just his toughest fight in quite some time.

  • Bears re-signed CJ Wilson and Prosinki.

    SB bitches!

    • BearDown100393

      Did that guarantee more wins or not?

    • CanadaBear

      Wilson made a couple of plays down the stretch. I hope to never see Prosinski on the field again.

  • King of DBB
    • BearDown100393

      Yoko.

      • King of DBB

        fucking Yoko.

        The Walrus was vaxxerz

        • BearDown100393

          The photograph says it all. Disapproving face. Mouth yakking nonsense. Jay’s head down. Beaten to submission.

          • MB30SD

            Hahaha… So so beatdown.

            Fuck that noise.

            #neveragain

          • BearDown100393

            Just look at this sh*t:

            http://www.trbimg.com/img-5818d788/turbine/chi-kristin-cavallari-pictures/650/650×366

            Jay looks like he’d rather be in a diabetic coma than endure more harping.

          • MB30SD

            Brutal

          • BearDown100393

            The Bears lost to f*cking Jacksonville when that photograph was taken. So here is Jay, missing a start, injured and getting crapped all over by that succubus in front of a team photographer. Swell.

          • MB30SD

            So bad man. I can’t even fathom the depths of that misery.

            …Anymore, I meant I can’t fathom it anymore/now.

            #neverevereveragain

          • Hey, that loss is why we’re picking ahead of the Jags in the 1st. Well, that and a coin flip, I surmise.

            Winning!

            And on that note…

            “Blake Bortles said his delivery is “more efficient, quicker” after working on his mechanics with 3DQB’s Adam Dedeaux in California.

            “Just trying to tighten up the release, make that as quick as possible,” Bortles said. “So never letting really the wrist get below the elbow, trying to keep that parallel and not dropping down. It didn’t take a long time to fix it, but the first week it wasn’t pretty. When you’re trying to change things it’s not going to be great but we were able to kind of hash that out and now it’s going well.” A video posted by 3DQB on Twitter shows Bortles’ new compact delivery, but the true test will be when he tries it in games. Bortles will continue working with Dedeaux this spring where he’s also been throwing with Marqise Lee. – Roto “

          • Johnnywad

            Not if we trade back. Then it’s the reason we get a mid first rounder like Chicken Dinner or Gabe Carimi and THEN a late second round safety from a small school whom we’ll forget by his third season. Thats if there’s a third season.

            All that pain and suffering? I want the third pick in the draft.

          • CanadaBear

            When I was doing bike rides with my buddy he would always point out those guys and say, “He’s given up!” Always made me laugh.

          • MB30SD

            I remember those days VERY clearly. it’s like you’re willing to do ANYTHING on earth to just make it stop. You’ve gone through it so long so much, you just want it to stop.

            Fuck, it’s like being tortured.

            I will never put myself in that situation ever again. Makes my stomach churn into a knot thinking about it.

          • Johnnywad

            What you can’t see in the picture is that she’s actually rolling the bean. He’s just watching.

    • Kristen says, “That Trestman guy got a bad rap” while eating a NY pizza in a Conte jersey.

      Also, she hates puppies, esp if they have mustaches.

    • willbest

      The most interesting tidbit is the indication that Jay is giving retirement serious consideration.

        • MB30SD

          Hee hee

      • MB30SD

        Why wouldn’t you?!?! The dude is 100M deep and a broken man. He’s taken more hits than his fair share. Get the Fuck out now.

        • Irish Sweetness

          This.

          Not having to go to work is a dream of mine.

          • willbest

            I suspect you would get bored of your other options before too long.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Nope. I don’t get bored. No boss = Nirvana.

          • MB30SD

            There are plenty of things to do when you have a buck-mill.

            Fuck, get into collecting rare glass unicorns

          • willbest

            I have a cousin who is an engineer, did that start up thing out of college and was bought out by a bigger company about a decade ago. Worth 10-15 million before 40. He thought he was going to retire. That took for about 3 years before he got bored and went back to work. He did say there is basically no stress because he could walk away whenever, but he needed something to keep busy with.

          • MB30SD

            I will be the same. The plan is to do the same by 46 for me. That’s the plan at least.

            Yeah, I would be the same. I would probably get back into more competitive surfing, do some competitions, maybe try to get competitive at my age bracket in triathlons… and I’d probably do some small tech start up investing. $50-$200K at a clip. Get involved a little with each, hand pick only the ones that looked super cool/interesting/successful to me. I also have a friend/mentor who’s in real estate, I’d probably dabble a little with him there on a small scale too.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdfeXqHFmPI

  • willbest
    • BearDown100393

      Lynda Carter.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Marriage material.

        • CanadaBear

          Conservative christian. Her tits aren’t that nice (now).

          • MB30SD

            Ewwwwww

    • MB30SD

      jesus.

      That said, I would lock myself in a room with that for a month. Good jewish girl like that. She’s amazing.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Trading back puts Obi Melifonwu in play, as well as TEs like Evan Engram.

    The ‘biggest safety in the country’ …. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc1L10ifZzk

    Evan Engram – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=752e-vSnMkU

    • Sahr Gborie

      trading back also puts oj howard in play. k.white, oj howard, j.howard….damn this offense is going to be something when pace is done

      • SC Dave

        k. white? Really?

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          BRAVERMAN!!!

        • Sahr Gborie

          still holding out hope. if he doses not play every game this season or at least 10+ then we can call him a bust

        • Scharfinator

          I think he’s a sneaky troll.

          • Sahr Gborie

            that hurts my feeling Scharfinator. i dont do the trolling game. i just call things as i see them. cutler was taking us nowhere. the evidence is in the past few years. we had a chance for a new start with mccown. mccown was not the long term answer but you could see that the team rallied around him. there was a sense of urgency and optimist not there with cutty

          • Revisionist facts!

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I think he was watching all those games in Standard Definition. That’s why his views of that team are a little off.

  • BerwynBomber

    Jets sign McCown to a one year deal. $6M guaranteed with a possible $13M incentives.

    For Cutty fans this should come as good news as it increases Jay’s chances of landing with one of the two QB-starved legit contenders in HOU and DEN. But man, WTF is NYJ thinking? Why would anyone choose McCown. I don’t get the league’s fascination with the guy. Hell, I’d sooner roll dice on Butt Fumble than McCown.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I think he was 13-4 with the Bears (TDs-INTs), no?

      EJ Manuel signed with the Raiders. He should be on our roster. Somewhere.

      • BerwynBomber

        Right, McCown had the half-season of his life with us in ’13. I get it. He was our team MVP that year. But I never bought him as anything more than a guy who took to Trestman’s system. Plus, he’s as old as Romo.

        • Johnnywad

          Wasn’t it like 3 wins in a five game stretch?

          That guy is approaching Matt Flynn territory now. Those three games have rewarded his family tree quite nicely.

        • Sahr Gborie

          thats the whole point right there. he knew how to maximize trestmans system better than cutty. with b.marsh, alshon. m.wilson & the unicorn we could have gone places if we had stuck with McCown. Hell we would not be in the mess that we in right now searching for a qb cus Cutty would be gone. we might be talking about Winston/Mariotta/Wentz as our qb right now. would have, should have, could have

    • It’s NOT gonna be Denver. Fairly certain Mr. Ed hates Cutler’s guts.

      Texans is Cargo’s best shot, but they’re smoking out Romo.

      I think Cargo is eyeing Texans, and if Romo goes there, he’s retiring.

      Doooooon’t caaaareeee

      • Irish Sweetness

        He’s been out of the limelight so long now, I don’t think Jay is coming back. Something’s wrong with his shoulder/thumb/penis …..

        • MB30SD

          You spelled vagina wrong

    • willbest

      If Garrett and Thomas go 1 &2 I hope we can swap with the jets for picks. One less team looking for a QB next year is fine by me

      • Sahr Gborie

        hell yeah. the jets will most likely go for any of the top 3. hope any pray brother. hope and pray

    • Sahr Gborie

      are you serious right now?!? if we would have rolled him out when cutty went down instead of playing cute we might be looking at a superbowl right now. he knew the system and how to manage it. plus hes great for the locker room and grooming a young qb

      • Bender McLugh

        take it easy big guy

        • MB30SD

          Hahaha

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        are you talking about McCown?

        • Sahr Gborie

          who else

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Then this is fricken hilarious. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! OMG! McCown and Superbowl. SMFH!

          • Sahr Gborie

            3 out of 5 wins is not bad. if we stuck with him we could have slid into the playoffs. after that its anybodys guess what would have been. any give sunday. you cant deny that mccown was playing better than cutty

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            You are on fire with the jokes. One of the worst D in league history winning the SB.

          • MB30SD

            And with McCown at QB!!!!!

            Hahahhaa

          • MB30SD

            Thank you. I was just thinking to myself, I clash with poor gorbie all the time, I have to be mean again?!?!

            I knew I could count on you

      • You think they were winning the SB in 2013 with the worst run D in NFL history?

        Think again.

        • Sahr Gborie

          nothing is guaranteed in football. we all thought the seahawks were going to run the ball and they passed on back to back superbowls. the falcons blew a 25point lead and any chance they had at the superbowl. not saying 100% we would have won but we missed an opportunity to find out.

          • No team with that terrible of a defense has ever come close to a SB title.

            Let’s look at those last 3 games when Cutler came back and see which one you think McCown would have changed:

            1) W over the Browns.
            2) 54-11 L to PHI. Bears gave up 289 rushing yards and 4 rushing TDs. Worst rushing D in NFL history against best run O in NFL. Bears were never winning that game. Here’s how that game started:
            CHI gets ball, Forte run, Cutler scramble to avoid sack, Cutler sacked, punt.
            PHI gets ball, TD
            Hester fumbles ensuing kickoff
            PHI gets ball, TD
            CHI ball. 2 Forte runs, Cutler incomplete, punt.
            PHI gets ball, TD

            By the time Jay Cutler threw his 2nd pass, they were down 21-0. And again, their run D was gassed all game. Can’t pin that one on Cutler.

            3) 33-28 L to GB. Cutler outplayed Rodgers in this game (though Matt Forte was the best player on the field for either team). Averaged over 9 yards per attempt and didn’t turn it over until a last-gasp desperation pass that was TD or loss.

            Please point out where, exactly, a different QB-who has now had a 15 year career as a mediocre backup-is winning an extra game in there to magically propel this team to the playoffs, much less winning the Super Bowl.

            You can fault Jay Cutler for turning the ball over too much in his time in Chicago, or for getting hurt too often. His injuries ruined their best shot in 2011, and possibly 2012 as well.

            You can’t pin 2013 on Cutler. THEY HAD THE WORST RUN DEFENSE IN NFL HISTORY.

  • Irish Sweetness
    • willbest

      Strike one down and two more take its place

    • SC Dave

      Not Soros? Hopes dashed again.

      • MB30SD

        I thought he was talking about dick Cheney

        • evantonio

          i thought it was bannon.

          • MB30SD

            I was going to say Trump, but I don’t picture Satan being a buffoon.

          • willbest

            Rove 2.0? Everything old is new again?

          • evantonio

            there can only be 1 Turd Blossom.

  • BearDown100393

    Mike Glennon strives to become Josh McCown.

    Our starting quarterback.

  • evantonio
  • Sahr Gborie

    im all warm and fuzzy inside now…hahaha

    • MB30SD

      You’re welcome

  • Scharfinator

    Hahah, did I go too far? ALAS

    • Sahr Gborie

      you’ve gone as far as a cutty has in reaching the promised land with the bears…hahahaha

      • Scharfinator

        See, things like this seem trollish.

    • MB30SD

      nevah!

  • willbest

    9ers GM checking out Trubisky

    • Scharfinator

      Got a ChuBisky for Trubisky

    • CanadaBear

      I would think all of the teams at the top of the draft bring him in. For subterfuge if nothing else.

  • MB30SD
  • MB30SD

    http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/03/21/nfl-mock-drafts-mel-kiper-todd-mcshay-daniel-jeremiah-deshaun-watson-pro-day-mike-williams-40-time

    Oh, it was a torn labrum in his HIP (I just assumed shoulder)! Yikes! That sounds really not fun, and a hell of a lot more risky than previously thought.

    Um, yeah, I’m all in on Adams @ #3. (that said, I think the team that takes a shot on Hooker will def be rewarded.

    • willbest

      Maybe he falls to 36!

      • Sahr Gborie

        yeah sure. and garrett falls into our lap after we trade back from #3

    • BearDown100393

      And his insides falling out. He’s perfect.

      • MB30SD

        meh, I had that one done between my freshman and sophomore years, had zero impact on my life or play 3 weeks post-surgery.

        Oh, that was a joke. hahaha… um… ha..

        (I pulled a will)

    • ButtonShoes

      Adams all day and every day. We’ll finally have a potential playmaking star at safety who is NFL-ready. No more of these projects and reaches that Ryan Pace keeps making.

      • MB30SD

        jes

  • MB30SD

    http://uncrate.com/article/steel-mace/

    oooooh, it’s for exercise?!?! That’s fucking dumb. But to smash someone’s dome, looks perfect.

    • King of DBB

      Or you know, you could go to a batting cage and weight the bat and do the same workout

      That way you don’t have a murder weapon in your foyer

      • MB30SD

        I don’t know, I think it’s perfect.

        ‘Oh, but officer, it’s for my workout! I just happened to grab it when that punk said he was going to bring my baby home whenever the fuck he wanted.’

        See! Creative thinking!

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          got to prepare for the Zombie uprising.

          • willbest

            I have a claymore. Only weighs about 6 lbs, and it will wear you out faster than you think. You probably only going to get a dozen good swings with a 20lb mace

          • MB30SD

            exactly. it’s nigh

        • willbest

          I have a splitting maul and pile of unsplit wood for that. “gee officer, it slipped, I don’t know what to tell you”

  • willbest

    the use of facebook live for this purpose seems, shall we say, short sighted.

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SEXUAL_ASSAULT_FACEBOOK

  • King of DBB

    Trump at a rally in Kentucky today said that NFL owners are escared to pick up Kap because he will mean tweet that team.

    This reminds me of that time that Nixon plumbers planted weed in Larry Czonkas car after Larry fucked Pat Nixon in the Rose Garden shed. I think Nixon dispatched Elvis to infiltrate Shula’s operation after that.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/20/donald-trump-calls-out-colin-kaepernick-again/

    #UndercoverElvis

    http://media.jrn.com/images/M0013287755–347092.JPG

    • BearDown100393

      When in Kentucky…

  • ButtonShoes

    Anyone have ESPN insider so that he can post that tidbit from Mike Sando here on the Bears being teased on the ESPN Chicago front page?

    “Bears moves are ‘baffling’

    The Bears made big moves, signing quarterback Mike Glennon and a host of
    others that have some NFL executives scratching their heads.”

    • willbest

      Either Pace is significantly smarter than the average GM or significantly dumber. Which is more likely?

      • Isn’t that what we said about Emery?

        • willbest

          Thus proving what is more likely.

          • CanadaBear

            You Bastard!

      • BearDown100393

        Mediocre at best. But still young enough to improve.

      • ButtonShoes

        Oh, definitely the latter.

    • King of DBB

      http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2017/3/15/14938266/chicago-bears-free-agent-moves-among-the-nfls-worst-according-to-some-nfl

      They think we overpaid Wil Wheaton. But he kicked ass on Star Trek TNG and was doing cameos on Big Bang Theory so clearly we needed to pay up.

      • Suck ass teams need to over pay for marginal or risky talent.
        If i wasn’t a Bears fan , i wouldn’t want to play for a 3win team, bridge qb, clueless pres, and questionable HC.

        I’m surprised we could land even Demps

      • MB30SD

        Interesting. I think his net-net is right, but I also found this interesting…

        “but I’d counter that with so many jobs on the line there given the struggles of the John Fox-Ryan Pace regime, one year might be all they have.”

      • Irish Sweetness

        I love his podcasts. He’s a cool guy. I’m worried about whether he can run a skinny post in the NFL but I’ll wish him all the best …

    • Irish Sweetness

      Are these the NFL executives that contact media sources to share what they think about other teams’ moves? Those non-existent execs?

      • AlbertInTucson

        In my opinion, if there’s no names attached, they made it up.

  • willbest

    Gorsuch is doing his best Ginsberg impersonation (as did everybody since her). Dem senators look like monkeys.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Dude, is that Bruce Willis?

  • I wonder where this guy will fall. If he’s there in the 4rth, worth the risk?

    Washington CB Sidney Jones underwent surgery on his torn Achilles’ tendon Tuesday.
    Per ESPN’s Adam Schefter, Jones will be “running in four months.” Achilles’ recoveries have condensed a bit in recent years, but remain far from straightforward. Jones, a would-be first-round pick, will probably spend his entire rookie campaign on the reserve/NFI list. For his part, Jones insists he will suit up in 2017. Jones should come off the board some time on Day 2.- roto

    • evantonio

      worth the risk when looking at our past 4ths. i’m looking at you, evan rodriguez and khaseem greene.

      • Agree, esp if it’s our later 4rth.
        4rth rders tend to be borderline starters-sp teamers anyways .stealing a potential 1st rder there would be awesome.

        Maaaybe even if we trade back in rhe 3rd, but that might be a bit much

        • King of DBB

          Giving $7.5 million to corner Prince Amukamura for one year — after he was relatively ineffective last year on a one-year, $5 million contract in Jacksonville in a prove-it scenario — raised some eyebrows. -CBS Sports

          • depends on who you ask

            “Prince Amukamara signed a 1-year “prove
            it” deal with the Jaguars last offseason. Prove himself he did, as
            Amukamara missed just a couple of games. He performed on a high level in
            2016 and is certainly worthy of a substantial contract.

            Read more at http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2017CB.php#sltMyzQ5etA07O1q.99

            “Bears signed CB Prince Amukamara, formerly of the Jaguars, to a one-year, $7 million contract. His
            contract is fully guaranteed. A 2011 first-round pick of the Giants,
            Amukamara spent 2016 in Jacksonville on a one-year deal. The door closed
            on his return when the Jags gave A.J. Bouye $26 million guaranteed.
            Injury plagued for much of his six-year career, Amukamara will be
            playing on another prove-it deal in Chicago. Although Amukamara has
            missed a ton of games, his play has remained steady, if far from elite.
            He’s a needed experienced addition for a Bears secondary that was
            undermanned and injury riddled in 2016. “- Roto

            If I had to describe Amukamar’s game, it would be “steady” which is still sadly an upgrade over what we roster.

            Inj is his biggest negative, but I think we said the same about Porter when he signed and thus far he’s been good value.

            The Bears are waiting for one of these young bucks to unseat Porter or Prince, but that remains to be seen.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Regarding Porter … are you all trolling? Go back and watch the games sober. Porter is a terrible liability.

          • Ask yourself this. Where would we have been without Porter the last two seasons?

            That’s a scary scenario.

            At the VERY least, Porter won that GB thanksgiving NeedleDick game.

            That was worth it right there.

    • Irish Sweetness

      The part of his body that allows him to stand upright is no longer connected …. I’m going to pass on this professional athlete at this time.

  • King of DBB

    Please grade these signings with a letter grade:

    Dion Sims, TE – 3yr/18M/10 guaranteed
    Markus Wheaton – $11M, $1.5M bonus; salaries $3M, $5M; $1.5M roster bonus 2017 league year, $1M annual incentive Yr2.
    Prince Amukamura – 1yr/7.5M
    Will Demps – 5 million in the first season with a further $8 million over the following two seasons.

    • I’m throwing out the $ cuz we sucked and fuck Sweaty Teddy. Maybe needing to overspend for marginal talent will finally get him fired. Also, most are front loaded, so won’t tie us down going forward.

      Sims – B. I was hoping for Jack Doyle, but apparently the Colts loved him too, so much so that they paid him AND traded Allen away to the Pats. I also wanted Gresham, a stout blocking TE with soft hands, an Sims is in that Gresham mold. We all know Miller is going to break, plus he’s more of a “move” TE anyways, so Sims complements our O well.

      Wheaton – C. Total dart throw. Bears were also interested in Andre Holmes, so it’s obvious they wanted to get vertical. I would’ve loved Pryor, but he comes with his own “character” issues and why he only got a 1yr contract like Alshon. [Hope Flash Gordon gets reinstated]

      Prince – B+. I actually like this signing. He was on my “B” list, so happy we got him. He’s good. His only question is health. To me he’s like a younger Porter. If he breaks down again, no biggie $wise. But gotta figure ONE of our fucking CBs can stay on the field (Fuller, Porter, Callahan, Hall, Banks, Cooper…). Wish it were a cheap 2yr deal, but I won’t go over how I hate 1yr prove it deals again. Prince is pretty much a “bridge” CB till someone steps up.

      Demps – B+. Naturally Berry was all our wet dreams, but not realistic. Tony Jefferson said he wanted to sign with a contender, so again, not us. Demps is in that next tier of Cyrprien , Barry Church, so he should be above avg. In such a young secondary with moving parts, Demps might be that anchor. He also has a knack for TOs, which we desperately need.

      * If any of these guys go down in PS – F!

    • Irish Sweetness

      Demps how much?

  • King of DBB

    Krumbs Krause has died.

    Hated by Mike, he nevertheless had the vision to take him with the 3rd pick and found Pippen’s potential down at Arkansas State or whatever backwater shit hole Scottie was toiling at.

    • BerwynBomber

      Rod Thorn actually drafted His Airness. But yes, Krause did draft Pippen and Grant. He was also the architect of the Oakley/Cartwright trade.

      • Bender McLugh

        Kukoc!

        • They used to call me Kucoc cuz I would always wear my Bull’s gear with headband at park.

          Ballin. Kucoc style.

          • MB30SD

            i know what you look like… sure it wasn’t CUCKoc?

          • I think it was more the hair, goatie and and headband. In the 90s, pretty much everyone looked like Kukoc

            At least they didn’t say I looked like Vlade Divac!

          • MB30SD

            I see you as more of a parish guy.

          • Bender McLugh

            Fuck yeah you did

      • If it wasn’t for a bad call, Pippen could’ve taken the Bulls to the championship.

        Always wondered if he was good enough to win it all.

        Two yr window b4 Jordan found out he couldn’t hit a curve.

    • BearDown100393

      OrganIzations…..

  • willbest

    heh.. Goodbye America, last person out turn off the lights.

    https://nypost.com/2017/03/20/even-dogs-are-getting-plastic-surgery-now/

    • Scharfinator

      WTF did I just read

      • willbest

        You read how our “betters” spend upwards of $8,000 a month taking care of their animals.

        • Scharfinator

          “care”

          • willbest

            For whatever reason this triggered my judgment reflex. Because if you told me that a guy that makes a million a year spent $100k of it on hookers and blow in Vegas I would be okay with that. But when you tell me that he spends it to botox his dog and giving it fake balls to enhance the dog’s self confidence it makes me facepalm.

          • Scharfinator

            Ehh fair enough. The issue of consent (does animal consent exist in a legal sense?) is odd to me.

          • willbest

            PETA has been pushing for that. I don’t know if they have gotten it, but in New Zealand a river has been deemed to have the rights of a person

            http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/03/16/520414763/a-new-zealand-river-now-has-the-legal-rights-of-a-human

          • Scharfinator

            Wow.

          • Yeah, I saw a vid where an owner was tatting up his dog.

            Is that cruelty?

            Seems like it.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Fascinating – illegal and immoral acts win out over pet-care. Hey Freud! C’mere!!

        • Johnnywad

          Ann Arbor, MI spent a number I can’t remember. Let’s call it $90,000, capturing and sterilizing deer in an overcrowded park area.

          This was approved by the city council nearly unanimously.

          • MB30SD

            I hear a .556 can do the same, but more effectively and much cheaper, because you can actually dry and then…. eat them after.

            Win win!

          • Johnnywad

            Even the homeless are Vegan in Ann Arbor.

          • MB30SD

            Oh. that’s miserable. I’m not! I like venison jerky

          • Johnnywad

            I shoot one with my bow every year and turn 80% of it into Jerky and Snack Sticks.

          • MB30SD

            snap into a slimjim

          • ohhhh yeaaahhh

          • willbest

            Sounds like they need to allow hunters to kill more deer.

          • Johnnywad

            That’s what a rational person/group of people would do.

      • SC Dave

        A near-ultimate expression of human narcissism.

    • This is how the French Revolution started.

      Ball implants for dogs.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Woof!

    • Cormonster

      I had to do a double take when I was in Manhattan in the early 2000’s and came across a swanky fitness club for dogs. I spent a good 5 minutes with my mouth agape as I watched what seemed to be personal trainers going through different exercises with dogs. Now it seems to be a thing.

  • BerwynBomber

    Cam Newton having rotator cuff surgery. (Cutty as back-up if no starting gigs materialize?)

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18969007/carolina-panthers-qb-cam-newton-shoulder-surgery

    • willbest

      I presume Cutler is going to retire unless the Dallas-Houston-Denver Mexican standoff resolves itself to his favor.

    • BearDown100393

      Uh no.

      Newton as backup.

      There. Better now.

    • A guy who was dogged his whole career for body language mentoring another guy who gets shit for body language. What can go wrong?

      Also, apparently, being Cutler’s “back-up” is a good gig.

      Hoyer, Barkley, McCown all got signed before Cargo. Shoot, I think even Sexy is on a team somewhere.

      Edit, this just in – Orton unretired and is now playing for the Texans!

    • SC Dave

      Carolina should draft Fournette. He’s the perfect piece for them.

      • Irish Sweetness

        He’s the perfect piece for any team. Pittsburgh show time and again, you need TWO backs.

  • willbest
    • SC Dave

      Your tax dollars at work.

  • Bender McLugh

    Deonte Thompson signed

    • MB30SD

      PHEW!!! Thank GOD!!!!

      • Bender McLugh

        Sewed up that return game like a BOSS

    • He actually flashed later in the season.

      He might be our most explosive player.

      And that is…sad.

      • Bender McLugh

        nah the kid from the Steelers right? And the Almighty Cam baby

      • Bender McLugh

        It’ll be interesting to see how gingerbread takes to the wr group, Deonte wasn’t terrible

        • Yeah, suddenly, we’re fast.

          Chucking it to 6’5 towers doesn’t exactly take the greatest accuracy.

          Hitting a 5’11 wheaton over the top or 5’10 Wright in the slot requires some zip, anticipation and accuracy.

          It’s like our WR corps b4 Bmarsh/Alshon came.

          Let’s hope they do a little better than Johnny Knox and Bennett.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Good news.

  • King of DBB

    Maybe Trump should threaten the NFL ownership again on the trail. But this time, tell them he will Tweet them down if they DON’T hire Cutler.

    Stephen A. Smith goes postal because Jay is a Trump guy….

    https://youtu.be/FyXcYNIaN0U?t=34

    “Jay is a class act, a total winner. He has excellent hands, big hands. Can win the big game. That the NFL won’t hire those hands is an act of treason. Sad!”

    • BearDown100393

      Anti-science folk stick together.

      • MB30SD

        vaccines… we don’t need no steeeeenkin’ vaccines

        • BearDown100393

          Jay will be the new czar of the resurrected USFL.

      • Cormonster

        Speaking of science, Shaq and a few other NBA players recently stated that the Earth is flat. That doctorate of education degree is paying dividends.

        • BearDown100393

          Dinosaurs are also a myth.

          • MB30SD

            no they are not!!!

            They were created by god along with man 5000 years ago!!

            WTF dude!?!?!

            Ps. I can see russia from my hoooose.

          • Someone should’ve asked Palin what kinda rifle she would’ve hunted a T-rex with.

          • MB30SD

            my god man. I literally couldn’t watch her on TV she was so fucking dumb. It made me embarrassed for her

          • BearDown100393

            Took down Big Foot with a blowtorch and pliers.

          • dwells behind rocks and out of focus areas

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXOebOaBFV4

          • King of DBB

            or what kind of rifle Alaskans would hunt Stephen A. Smith with.

          • MB30SD

            doood, that guy is the embodiment of an asshole. I mean he looks and sounds like a human asshole.

            Him and gaddafi. http://i1.walesonline.co.uk/incoming/article1790282.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/gaddafi-dead-275385778.jpg

          • King of DBB

            “Muammar Goes to White Castle.”

          • MB30SD
          • Cormonster

            The UN Human Rights Commission recently banned playing prerecorded conversations between Stephan A Smith and Bomani Jones to terrorists as a form of torture.

          • MB30SD

            I TOTALLY understand that ruling.

            Cruel and unusual punishment. The terrorists are like, “Nah, I’ll take the waterboarding. thanks for the option.”

          • SC Dave

            Shit… should have read ahead.

          • SC Dave

            Looks like waterboarding just became passe.

          • He’s the Geraldo Rivera of sports journalism.

          • MB30SD
          • Jesus dude.

            I can’t unsee that!

          • MB30SD

            you’re welcome

          • King of DBB

            that scores lower than my Egyptian snatch

          • Cormonster

            No, dinosaurs were created on the 4th day, went extinct on the 5th day, and man was created on the 6th day. Those are in g*d days though. I don’t know what that comes out to in years.

          • King of DBB

            I’ve seen Notre Dame employ God’s clock, usually in the 4th Q when they are down one score.

          • TD jesus, baby.

            No one fucks with the Jesus.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z7U5pZRl2k

          • MB30SD

            7 god years to every man year right?!

            Oh sorry, I’m dixlesic

          • SC Dave

            Nice! Winner post so far… if I excuse you’re shitty spelling

          • MB30SD

            shhhhh, the shitty spelling is part of the joke. But shhhhhhhh!

          • Moses Christ…

        • MB30SD

          it is… if you look at it from within a black hole i the 8th dimension while orbiting a dying giant red dwarf.

          So technically…

          (speaking of which, I saw Passengers this weekend. Not bad.

          • BearDown100393

            Shaq > Hawking. No brainer.

          • MB30SD

            easy!

            …can hawking even fucking dunk????

          • BearDown100393

            EXACTLY. Sits there and drools all day.

          • MB30SD

            slob

          • BearDown100393

            Plays apps on his computer all day. Probably a gift from Shaq.

          • MB30SD

            I bet shaq coded up those apps.

          • The big Aristotle. Ya know it!

          • Irish Sweetness

            And makes outrageous statements that he never backs up. Never was there a scientist so famous who has come up with so little science. Hawking Radiation. That’s it. The man is famous for sitting in a wheelchair and having a computer voice.

          • Didn’t Hawkins make strides in black hole theory? Thought that was his thing.
            Heard they’re gonna blast Hawkins into space soon too.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He put a name on Hawking Radiation, which is the shit that gets ejected from the event horizon if I remember correctly. Then he made grand entrances at at conferences and made random absurd claims that he would never back up. The man is a bit of a joke in the fraternity. He’s more celebrity than a real productive scientist like say, Feynman.
            |
            The fact that he cheated on his first wife still amazes me.

          • Cormonster

            Shaq’s reasoning paraphrased: You mean to tell me when I’m in Atlanta that China is underneath all those skyscrapers? Plus I drive from Florida to California all the time and the ground is flat, not on a 360 degree angle.

          • MB30SD

            sounds like perfect logic to me corm.

          • King of DBB

            we could get a t-shirt with the Empire State building on it, and captioned:

            “China B under dis”

          • Irish Sweetness

            Somebody tell him it only takes 42 minutes to get from LA to Tokyo if you go through the center of the Earth.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Irish: Hey, Shaq.

          Shaq: ‘Sup Irish!

          Irish: So …. if the Earth is flat …. why doesn’t the sun rise at the same time all over the world …?

          Shaq: ……………….

          • MB30SD

            MB: hey, Irish

            Irish: ‘Sup MB!

            MB: So… if the earth was flat… would there even be a sunset/sunrise… cause, like, it’s flat… so wouldn’t it just kind ‘flip off’?

            Irish: …………………..

          • Irish Sweetness

            ………………

          • It’s a cube?

          • Irish Sweetness

            That’s pretty good, Butch. Although after a second of thought there, there would be a pretty serious 90 degree turn situation in a lot of places. This may all be hidden by the small grey’s mind-field, where they control …

            {IRISH!! NO!}

            Sorry.

    • MB30SD

      Hahahahaha!

      Allergic to winning!

      …Here comes the yonnyluftwaffle!

    • “When I hear about Jay Cutler, I think about ineptitude, I think about incompetence, I think about loser, I think about leaderless, I think about everything that goes against what America is supposed to be about”

      Deeum. Smith dropping abombs on the Cuttybadger population

      • MB30SD

        yeah, but he’s a fucking buffoon, so not exactly the spokesperson you want pimping your platform.

      • King of DBB

        He he has a take and doesn’t suck, to Rome it up…

        https://youtu.be/3s8BZjcP3qU?t=19

        • MB30SD

          I thought we agreed we never post anything by that hack caliendo here again. : /

          • King of DBB

            So no to Caliendo as Trump? It’s Trump as a Catholic Priest…

            https://youtu.be/ghS5AKa7R9Q?t=29

          • MB30SD

            I just can’t. It’s blanket for me. Can’t stand that dude.

      • BearDown100393

        When I hear about SAS, I think about….. Yeah that works better.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Cutty was none of those things.

        • MB30SD

          sure he was. he was all of them at one time or another

          • Irish Sweetness

            But the guy implies he was all of those together, at the same time, always. No fair.

          • Than why are guys like Glennon, Hoyer, Barkley, your boy McCown, even Foles signed already while Cargo is smoking a cig?

            I don’t know if Stephen A is right, but the NFL seems to agree with him.

            Once the Texans scoop up Romo, that’s all folks.

            I hope Cutler does sign with the Texans for his sake cuz if he retires, ppl are gonna agree more with Stephen A, douchbag or not, when he screamed that he robbed the Bears laughing all the way to the OC bank.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I think he’s hurt badly. So badly that he can’t keep it a secret from the other teams and the word is out.

          • MB30SD

            Not always, and not all together, no

  • bearfacts

    I’ll opt for meaning two. Especially the part about parting company with all that existed before Fox and Pace arrived. We were hoping for change on the field and we got one. They’ve managed to take a lousy team and turn in into a pathetic one. Some “culture change”.

    Spending a high draft pick on QB neither Fox or Loggains can develop is pretty much the equivalent of buying a Ferrari for Stevie Wonder to drive. Use Glennon to get through 2017. Lose regularly, which should be easy enough. Fire Fox and do a reset of the coaching staff THEN draft your franchise QB. I’m pretty certain you’ll have a top ten pick again next year.

    • MB30SD

      JEEEES PLLLEEEEAAASE!!!

    • Darnold/McDaniels 18

      • MB30SD

        I want Matt Patricia man.

        I think he’d be a stud without being a fucking overthetop tool like McDouchiels. And he’d bring back the kind of D swagger this fucking org USED to be known for.

        Kind think he’d be the new tomlin (except, you know, white)

        • Patricia intrigues me. And wasn’t he like an engineering or something like that?

          Dunno man. Is anyone more overthetop than Harbs?

          And the other aspect to weigh – can Patricia groom a QB?

          McDaniels has spent years soaking up Bill-Brady training in that dept.

          If we already had a franchise QB, then maybe I lean Patricia.

          Though I would still be happy to get Patricia.

          One can argue that he had to do more work on the D than McDaniels did with the O and Brady.

          • MB30SD

            Yeah, he seems like a bad ass who is no nonsense and will just come in and bust ass.

            I get what you’re saying about mcyd, just not sure how ‘chicago’ he is… All in all, think I’d rather have a Patricia

          • Was any coach more “chicago” than Wanny?

            Slap a stach on McDs and let’s roll!

            I’d be cool with Patricia too. Either are bold which is what we need.

          • MB30SD

            hahahahaha… and yes, patricia was literally going to be a rocket scientist.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I would be worried about what “McDaniels has spent years soaking up”. Remember he drafted/wanted Tebow as his QB.

          • Yeah, but Tebow won as many playoff games as Cutler in like half the seasons.

            Tebus!

          • Irish Sweetness

            Didn’t Fox get to the playoffs and win a game with Tebow?

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Stevie Wonder can see. He has been faking it all this time.

  • BearDown100393
  • MB30SD
  • Please god, NO.

    Free agent QB Mark Sanchez will visit the Bears on Thursday.

    It’s Sanchez’s first action of free agency. Nothing more than a clipboard-holder at this point in his career, Sanchez would slidein behind Mike Glennon. – Roto

    • willbest

      I love this move. It makes it less likely we spend #3 on a QB

      • Why not just keep Barkley at that point?

        And this would also mean no Shawshank 🙁

        • willbest

          I don’t want Sanchez as a #2. Unless you have Denver or Houston’s D I never understood the point of having a veteran backup. You should have a guy with high upside. You are basically wasting the roster spot on a QB you know won’t amount to anything.

          But if it means taking one of the handful of projected defensive playmaker over a QB with lots of question marks, I am all for it.

          Although Sanchez might be a bit too much. It might also preclude a QB at 36.

          • BerwynBomber

            Veteran back-ups make sense when you either have a young starter and/or a serious contender. But for someone like the Bears during the Cutler era it never made much sense to sign the Hoyers, Clausens and Campbells. We should have been rolling the dice on a rookie behind Jay (or a guy like Shaw at least), but we basically never did, Caleb Hanie not withstanding.

          • Irish Sweetness

            It’s an interesting subject – who should your QBs be? I’ve always felt you’ve got your #1, he should be clearly better than your vet backup at #2 … then you should have some kid in there at #3, somebody you think might be something.

            Yet time and again, teams only roll with two. Mind-boggling.

          • willbest

            Other than runs a better practice for the #2 team what can the vet do? It’s not like Hoyer won more games than Barkley?

          • Given the monumental importance of QB, I’m also amazed that some extra gunner or sp teamer is frequently judged as more important than a 3rd QB familiarizing himself with the system and growing with the OC.

            Maybe if Barkley had some more reps, he wouldn’t have melted down ,and he’d still be an option going forward.

    • MB30SD

      Jesus, we are the browns

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        What can Brown do for you?

        • MB30SD

          Lose?

    • BerwynBomber

      Apparently Prescott credited Butt Fumble with a lot of his growth this year in DAL. So who knows. But would seem to indicate the Bears are targeting ’18 as their draft for a QB.

      • Irish Sweetness

        We shoulda kept Cutty and got him to train-in Trubs or Watson … Pace is treading water now. He’ll fuck this up. They’ll all get fired and we’ll have Sanchize and Gummo on the books .. with no chance of drafting a top QB next season.

        • BerwynBomber

          But what does Cutler give you that Glennon doesn’t? I don’t understand the argument. Yes, Glennon might be worse. But Jay’s not that good enough either. Plus, we’ve seen his ceiling for the last eight or nine years. What more is there to see? So why not roll the dice on the unknown at this point?

          And if Glennon truly stinks, why wouldn’t we be able to draft a kid in ’18?

          • Irish Sweetness

            He’s been a Bear for a long time and he knows the offense. I believe his play last season was due to injury, and that his turning the corner the season before would have lead to bigger things this season, with better receivers and a running game.
            You draft Trubs or Watson and let them sit behind Cutty …..

            But it’s Glennon instead – so be it.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Why. The. Fuck.

      Definitely welcome .. .Jamal Adams.

      Now I know we’re not getting Fournette, I’m kinda pissed we’re not getting a look at Watson or Trubs. Sanchize and Gummo? FML as a Bears’ fan.

  • willbest

    ah man, its a shame I am persona non grata, this is right up somebody’s alley

    http://resistancereport.com/world/man-thrown-fourth-floor/

  • This went under the radar. I was hoping for a pass-catching 3rd down back to complement Howard who could also return kicks, and Pace has signed just that. From what I remember, Cunninham was pretty good in sub-packages. Hopefully this doesn’t preclude us from drafting a HB in the mid rds.

    Edit. Cunningham highlights

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCA0EMMabbw

    Bears signed RB Benny Cunningham, formerly of the Rams, to a one-year contract.

    It’s a solid, under-the-radar signing for the Bears. Cunningham is a dependable pass-catching and pass-protecting runner out of the backfield who didn’t get many opportunities behind Todd Gurley in
    L.A. Cunningham can also return kickoffs; he has a 27.1 average on 95 career returns. His addition could spell trouble for Jeremy Langford and/or Ka’Deem Carey behind Jordan Howard. – Roto

    • Johnnywad

      Langford has proven himself completely expendable at this point.

      • I think Langford and Carey will battle it out in camp.

        If the Bears draft a HB in any rds, both are gone.

        I bet they bring one in as a UFDA to compete for that 3rd spot which traditionally plays specials

      • BerwynBomber

        Could be Carey. Remember, he pretty much cost us the JAX game and unlike Langford, who at least showed a little something his rookie year, Carey’s only flashed in preseason or garbage time.

        • Johnnywad

          Can’t argue with that I guess. I suppose in Langford’s defense as well would be his speed that Carey just doesn’t have.

          Neither are going to scare anybody.

    • Irish Sweetness

      We should be making Jordan uncomfortable, not langford. Have competition in the backfield, or just have two complementary backs. Not against Benny though.

      I guess this means we’re not drafting Fournette ….

      Welcome to Chicago Jamal …..

      • MB30SD

        BOOM!!!

        See now You’re thinking clearly

      • We shoulda never dumped that one 3rd down back we had. I forget his name, but he always did good and was a perfect change of pace back.

        Cunningham is essentially that + returner (and younger), so it’s a good signing.

        He’s basically an older version of Kamara who’s a good draft prospect.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Jock-squueze?

        • MB30SD

          Well… Always did well.

          Lazy Fucking millennials

          • No, I meant, he was a superhero and did good on the streets saving kittens and babies.

          • MB30SD

            still grammatically incorrect you fucking hipster extraordinaire.

  • MB30SD

    Watching 7 psychopaths again.

    Interesting flick

  • Ruh-Roh. Hope he doesn’t end up in the Puke.
    If we’re not going to use Unrein at FB, Francoise could be an upgrade.

    Free agent DL Ricky Jean-Francois will visit the Packers.

    The 30-year-old has generated plenty of interest since
    being suspiciously cut by the Redskins last week. Outspoken against the
    direction of the Redskins, Jean-Francois was suddenly dumped, and he’s
    since visited the Seahawks, Bears, and Packers. He’d be a solid fit in
    the Packers’ 3-4 front. – Roto

    • willbest

      Can a player really be suspiciously cut by the redskins at this point? I mean they fired their GM during the 60 days where having a GM is most critical.

      • Good point.

        Theyre a burning bag of shit right now.

        • Scharfinator

          Are the Skins the new Browns? The Browns are horrible but don’t seem to have insane management, just inept.

          • King of DBB

            Snyder has gone full Al Davis

          • I remember watching an episode of Supernatural and one of Satan’s lieutenants said to Sam right before he was going to torment him, “You think Satan is bad? I’m worse. I’m much much worse. I’m petty”

    • BerwynBomber

      Yawn. The Cheese have done virtually nothing to address their bottom-feeding D. Even if they land Jean-Francois I doubt it means much.

      Rodgers will probably provide them enough heroics in ’17 to reach the post-season where once again their D will eventually get exposed. Happens virtually every year.

  • Mark Sanchez visiting Bears on Thursday.

    WHY? They already have a veteran. Now draft a rookie and let those two duke it out.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      to make fun of him.

    • BearDown100393

      Because Ryan Pace is stupid.

      • King of DBB

        His code needs an upgrade. It’s just accepting commands from the Saints GM without question.

        • BearDown100393

          Or was infected with a virus by Terrible Ted.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Chucky Gruden says Glennon can throw the ball as well as anyone in the country. That’s a statement. I’m looking forward to seeing that, especially with our new toys.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE4YBWzKLEw

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Is there a player that Gruden does not compliment?

      • Irish Sweetness

        I think he’s solely referring to his college days …

    • BearDown100393

      Gruden is the same guy who is always exuberant when the 4th QB from Nobody Cares State College enters a preseason game with 2 minutes left in a 30 point blowout.

      • Irish Sweetness

        It would be refreshing to see him say to a QB “You really ballsed this one up, didn’t you?”

  • Irish Sweetness

    Bears history documentary – movie length.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz5WIbqiIoA

    • SC Dave

      Definitely to be checked out; thanks!

      • Irish Sweetness

        Just watched it. Two things surprised me. Seeing Urlacher near the end of it made me feel a bit giddy, like seeing a video of an old girlfriend or a first love. Weird. The other was this …..
        Mike Brown returned a fumble for a TD to beat the Packers in 2004. It was the second longest in Bears’ history. The longest? George Halas himself.

        And fuck the Packers.

        • SC Dave

          [Butkus] “… remains the gold standard of linebackers”

        • MB30SD

          A real playmaking safety… What the fuck is that?!?

  • King of DBB

    Madden is no longer seen in public.

    Is he going to kick off? Take the Madden Cruiser into the sky?

    • BearDown100393

      Grave marker reads Brett Favre….

      • King of DBB

        Another Caliendo segway!

        https://youtu.be/nsUB7NOpLbI?t=10

        • MB30SD

          Please. God. Stop.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I must agree. Please. God. Stop MB’s complaining. Caliendo is the greatest ever.

          • MB30SD

            I hate both of you right now

          • King of DBB

            He’s like a white Flip Wilson.

            https://youtu.be/TBmAQ2B1Tew?t=13

          • MB30SD

            Exactly my point

  • King of DBB
  • King of DBB

    Chuck Barris has passed, last night.

    A man with the balls to put the Popsicle girls on tv during the mid-afternoon on network TV in the 70s

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDxDYIQL6Nc

    “You know, that’s just how I started…”

    Chuckie – America will miss you, the CIA will miss you, Da Blog will miss you. Salute.

    • MB30SD

      how high was he in that clip?!?!

      • BearDown100393

        clip or television series?

        • MB30SD

          Uh, same?

      • CanadaBear

        I had a theory that Charlie Brill and Mitzi McCall were the coke suppliers for the show. There was no other reason for them to be on the panel. Nobody ever heard of them and neither one of them was even remotely funny. But whenever they were on the show, everyone’s eyes were totally glazed over. People were definitely fucked up on that show.

        • MB30SD

          Hahaha, wouldn’t doubt it

    • CanadaBear

      Definitely a fave. A little insight into my dad. I’m watching the Gong Show and he walks in (about half to three quarters lit) Dad; Is that Jaye P. Morgan? Me; Yes. Dad; Jesus Christ she was a slut back in my day. Me; I really like her. Dad; I didn’t say I didn’t like her.

      • King of DBB

        great story

        • CanadaBear

          You would have loved my dad (almost all my friends did). Hard core Dem, funny as hell and a total loose cannon. Add a quart of gin/day and presto!

    • Make America Great Again!

  • MB30SD

    Mike mycock has… Lost his Fucking mind: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000794141/article/mike-mayocks-2017-nfl-draft-position-rankings-20

    Jabrril peppers as the #1 safety?!? Budda Baker as a Nickle corner… Allen as the #1 interior guy.

    Smfh

    • King of DBB
      • MB30SD

        Um, no thanks.

    • willbest

      You were all about the Peppers 2 months ago

      • MB30SD

        Still am, but he’s not the top SAFETY by a far shot… he would make a great rover, he’s just not the core safety we need man. Great athlete, just too much of a swiss army knife for my liking @ #3

  • Bender McLugh

    shots fired in Parliament

    • King of DBB

      OUTSIDE the building. Not in session. Big difference.

      • Bender McLugh

        hadn’t heard details, they’re on lockdown now

        • King of DBB

          Details are starting to come in.

          The bobby in the top pic of this story is sporting a HK Mp5 with a Fairfield Reflex Sight on it.

          http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/03/22/521095756/u-k-parliament-under-lockdown-after-firearms-incident

          It’s unusual to see British cops with guns, much less that thing.

          • Does anyone doubt that if Brits were allowed to buy guns, this would’ve been MUCH worse?

          • Bender McLugh

            and overreaction reply in 3, 2, 1…..

          • willbest

            Was he a Brit? I think there is a reason the vehicle is the preferred choice for solo allah akbars though. You are likely to kill more people with a car unless you get yourself a fish in barrel situation a la Orlando.

          • When there’s a million loopholes to buy guns legally, yet alone, ILLEGALLY, background matters little. The more guns are out there, the easier they are to get. I think one shooter in the U.S. simply stole the guns from a family member.

            BTW, I’m not for banning guns

          • willbest

            Its harder than you think to duck the background check legally. Most the states that allow you to do it have more livestock than people living there. And any transaction between residents of different states must use an FFL as a broker. And of course its a crime to buy a gun if you aren’t allowed to own one. Its also a crime to sell a gun to a person you know isn’t allowed to own it and you can be criminally liable for their action. “know” being the keyword there, but it still makes it wise to ask a few questions even if you don’t have to perform a background check on the buyer.

            But I tend to agree it doesn’t matter all that much, since finding somebody that doesn’t care about following the law for gun sales is pretty easy to do. You can also buy the components of an AR-15 and then rent a CNC mill to make the 1 part that is regulated by the government.

    • willbest

      Those were the police shots at the knife wielding ‘asian’ which usually means Pakistani across the pond.

      Also hit a few pedestrians with his vehicle on the way. Internal combustion engine seems to be the weapon of choice for European terrorist these days.

      • Bender McLugh

        damn

  • King of DBB

    Biggsy transcribes the Youtube video that Westworld mailed to Season Ticket Holders:

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-bears-ryan-pace-video-message-spt-20170316-story.html

    Westworld describes his “excitement” for each of the recent FAs and why he liked them.

    After all that typing, Biggsy stopped off for his favorite lunch: triple decker grilled cheese sandwiches with pesto spread and Miracle Whip added. Washed down with Ocean Spray apple.

    • MB30SD

      DIET ocean spray cran-apple

  • King of DBB

    I don’t know who saw this:

    Fallon does Morrison:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBRYsAfchkY

    But compare it to the original:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2euBN3gbKc8

    Jesus.

    Same Vox Continental, same Fender Rhodes piano, same drum kit with the inverted kicker, same WALL DECORATION. Costumes: perfect.

    Even the actors actually look like John Densmore, Robby Krieger and Ray Manczerak.

  • MB30SD

    GP: http://uncrate.com/article/1984-detomaso-pantera-gt5/

    I know EXACTLY how that interior smells… old leather, a little bit of gas smell leaking in from the tubz, slight whiff of pussy, and maybe very faint stale wafting of drakkar noir from a previous owner (persian of course)

  • MB30SD

    I thought this was already a forgone conclusion: http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/22/politics/donald-trump-wsj-trust/index.html

    • King of DBB

      Speaking of Uday and Qusay.

    • willbest

      A “news” story about an op ed? good lord.

    • “The editorial also slammed Trump for refusing to back off his administration’s unsubstantiated allegations that President Barack Obama ordered the wiretapping of Trump Tower. Multiple lawmakers, including Republicans, have called on Trump to apologize to Obama for making the
      claim without providing any evidence…

      Yet the President clings to his assertion like a drunk to an empty gin
      bottle.”

      #WSJfake
      #MurdochSnowflake

      • MB30SD

        he’s a fucking lunatic man. The dude is obviously a pathological liar and has some sort of mental illness.

        Like honestly, it’s scary he wasn’t really vetted in that regard. It’s weird to see a dude like that in the whitehouse man.

        I can’t even imagine the shit that will come from him once he’s out of office. the gov is going to have a hell of a time trying to control what he spews out into the public realm. Again, scary stuff.

  • CanadaBear

    Have you guys heard about this. 8-part docu series(?) about section 250 in Soldier Field last year. Some of it will be hilarious and most of us will want to look away.

    http://www.espn.com/blog/chicago-bears/post/_/id/4705257/programming-alert-espn-premieres-bears-fan-series-on-april-11

    • King of DBB

      oh man, a 30 for 30 on Section 250 last year?

      that is going to be great.

      • CanadaBear

        Meatheads and liquor, what could go wrong? Esp funny since they stunk on ice last year.

    • Man. Maybe this is JUST the thing to fucking finally wake up those asses and fire Teddy.

      Kinda like when Georgie was pushed in the stands

      • CanadaBear

        When the Jags named Coughlin to be in charge I thought, “He would beat the fuck out of Sweaty Teddy as the Big Kahuna!”

    • willbest

      He posted this 10 days early.

  • MB30SD
    • Bender McLugh

      I still want Hooker over Adams, for some strange reason. LOVE the way Adams brings it of course, but that range of Hooker is something else.

      • Same here. I’m on team Hooker.

        SS is like ILB – they’re not as valuable in the modern NFL.

        We need Hooker to counter Vadgers and Lesbo.

      • MB30SD

        Totally agree… see above.

        The HIP labrum and his disdain for tackling have chased me into the arms of Adams

    • willbest

      A tight end as the first offensive player off the board?

      • It’s about tiers.

        I said b4 that really there are 3 “freaks” in this draft.

        Garrett, Fournette and OJ Howard.

        They’re in their own tiers, and the drop off between them and the next best are perceived to be gigantic.

        As such, it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if Howard went that high. He’s seen as the best TE prospect since Vernon Davis (who blazed a 4.38)

        “Davis was selected 6th overall in the 1st round of the 2006 NFL Draft by the San Francisco 49ers. He joined Kellen Winslow Jr. as the fourth highest tight end ever drafted after Ron Kramer, (Green Bay, No. 4 in 1957) Mike Ditka (Chicago, No. 5 in 1961) and Riley Odoms (Denver, No. 5 in 1972)” – Wiki

        I think Hooker had a chance to be in that group, but he couldn’t do the combine. Would’ve loved to see his 40 and such.

    • Some surprises.

      Reddick going b4 Foster? Was it the hospital incident?

      Conley being 2nd CB drafted. CB is interesting. Everyone has diff boards on them.

      McKinnley going that high?

      Wow, WR Zay Jones that high? I just looked at his tape last night cuz I thought he might be a good 3rd rd steal. He put up INSANE #s, but he’s a bit of a poor man’s Amari Cooper, can’t block for shit, and is avg sized. That would be a big reach in the 1st, IMO.

      • MB30SD

        exactly. He just had some whacky shit in his #1 spots.

  • BearDown100393

    Mark Sanchez is in town and nobody cares. Remarkable.

  • Bender McLugh

    Kiper’s latest darft that Jeff linked to on twitter predicts Browns getting Myles Garrett & Trubisky. That’s a damn good haul. But somehow they still won’t compete.

    • Bender McLugh

      I’m keeping it “darft” cause it’s Kiper – does he really know what a draft is?

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