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He’s It: Money No Reason for Bears Not to Tag Alshon Jeffery in 2017

| February 17th, 2017

Alshon Jeffery is a very good football player. A barstool drunk with Bushmills breath and 20/80 vision could tell you Alshon Jeffery is a very good football player. But NFL personnel people are paid duffels of ducats to decide whether a player is bad or okay, okay or good, good or very good, very good or great. They are paid to decipher where to slot a particular talent within the structure of the NFL’s rigid salary cap.

Is Jeffery a great player? That’s the question currently wallpapering the offices in Lake Forest. The more important question may be…does it matter?

From the one and only Adam L. Jahns of the Sun-Times:

“I think Alshon expects more,” Pace said during the Bears’ season-ending news conference Jan.  4. “I think he’s a good player. And that’s a big decision for us.”

But how good is he really?

It’s actually a complex question, considering that the Bears are rebuilding, that the team will have their third receivers coach in three years and that a new quarterback could be coming to town.

The better question might be: Do Jeffery’s talents transcend change?

He had mixed results last season with three quarterbacks. According to Pro Football Reference, Brian Hoyer’s passer rating of 83.3 when throwing to Jeffery was better than Cutler’s (74.3) and Matt Barkley’s (50.9).

On the other side, the argument can be made that the Bears desperately need Jeffery, especially with uncertainty surrounding Kevin White after his second surgery. (White and Jeffery share the same agent.)

Being pragmatic about this decision, there are three options.

  • TAG HIM. With the copious amount of cap space and Jay Cutler most likely coming off the books, Jeffery’s tag hit will be somewhere in the $17-18M range and give the Bears an opportunity to either (a) work out a long-term extensions or (b) use 2017 as a second evaluative year.
  • SIGN HIM. The Bears want to lock up Jeffery long-term but they are not going to pay him like he’s one of the five best receivers in the sport. Why? Because he’s not one of the five best receivers in the sport. And, from my reporting, it’s clear the organization is concerned about Jeffery’s work ethic, how that work ethic has influenced his health and what to make of the four-game suspension he served in 2016.
  • SAY GOODBYE. An old fashioned adios. Pretty simply stuff. Shake his hand, make sure his car is on-time to O’Hare and tell him that both Pat’s and Geno’s are overrated in Philly. (Let’s be honest, the whole concept of the Philly cheesesteak is wildly overrated. It’s fucking beef and cheese. I’ve had better versions of that combination in probably seven other cities. Stick cheese on a Mr. Beef in Chicago or a Chap’s Pit in Baltimore or…okay, enough.)

The latter two options come with significant risk.

Sign Him and risk the money decreasing his motivation. If his lack of work ethic issues becomes a major issue, the Bears could end up paying a complementary player like a star for the next 2-3 seasons. Say Goodbye and the Bears are forced to start over at the wide receiver position, depending heavily on unproven players like White and Meredith for production in 2017.

Tag Him? What’s the risk?

Some cash.

That’s it.

One year and some cash.

If he fails another drug test and misses ten games, he’s gone at year’s end. If he fails to play 12 or 13 productive games he is gone at year’s end. If he plays like one of the league’s best receivers, he’ll be fittingly compensated by mid-January in Chicago or mid-March elsewhere (with the Bears receiving draft pick compensation when he leaves).

If the Bears were tight against the cap in 2017, my opinion might change. If the Bears were two players away from a championship in 2017 and taking Jeffery’s money off the books would allow them to acquire those players, my opinion might change. But neither of those things is remotely accurate.

Jeffery is only 27 years old. He’s still got 3-4 years of possibly elite-level production left.

Q: Why would the Bears allow another organization to benefit from a single second of that production when they don’t have to?

A: They shouldn’t.

Q: Why create a question mark on a roster already full of them for a few million bucks?

A: They shouldn’t.

Q: Why would an organization hungry for productive drafts toss out the best receiver they’ve selected in several generations?

 A: They shouldn’t. 

Should the Bears bring Jeffery back in 2017? The answer is simple. Of course.

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  • Huge Bears Penis

    woohoo first! Hoyer Sucks!!!!

  • willbest

    If the Bears cut ties with Alshon only to draft that WR at #3, I am going to quit unless Tom Brady is under center week 1.

  • BearDown100393
    • BerwynBomber

      Sad and good for him to share such personally tragic stuff.

      On another note did find it semi-amusing that when they first met his attitude drips with entitlement and he casts himself as the object to be pursued rather than vice-versa. Sort of here’s my number, call me if you want some of this, little groupie.

  • BerwynBomber

    Browns sign their long snapper, Charley Hughlett, to a six year contract extension, which makes him the highest-paid long snapper in the league.

    #Browns

    • willbest

      Has he ever botched a snap?

    • Considering how much they punt, maybe a wise investment.

  • Warner all for a developmental league

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/02/16/kurt-warner-believes-in-developmental-leagues/

    “From the time I got cut with Green Bay until the day I retired, Brett Favre did not miss a single start . . . not a single start. So had I stayed there, if anything I’m a backup for whatever number of years if I
    ever get an opportunity to start yet while other people were sitting on
    the bench, I went and played in a whole bunch of football games. Three years in Arena Football, over in NFL Europe. Arena Football was like the two-minute drill every time. You were expected to score, you had to
    make plays and I learned how to play football. I don’t think there’s any experience that can get you ready to play like playing and that’s what I think is the hard part is there’s no place for these guys to go and develop and learn how to play the quarterback position.”

    • I wonder if shipping off an unprepared QB to Arena is even feasible.

      Say if the Rams were deadset on benching Goff for the whole year, send him an Areana Team to learn for a year or something while learning the Ram’s playbook.

      Maybe too much, but worth considering.

      From what Warner is saying here it seems like ACTION, even at a lower level, is preferable to just riding pine and wearing a headset.

      • SC Dave

        Yeah…. probably. The question is, would you go for the action at $150K in Arena, or carry a clipboard for $500K.

        The latter looks pretty attractive.

        The thing is that Warner did not have the second option. He was stocking a grocery for $21K.

        And by the way, from the wikipedia page:

        “Before the 1997 Arena season, he requested and got a tryout with the Chicago Bears, but an injury to his throwing elbow caused by a spider bite sustained during his honeymoon prevented him from attending.[15]”

        A SPIDER kept us from having Kurt Warner. Does it get any harder than being a fucking Bears fan?!?

        • That’s where I think an NFL-CFL or whatever partnership would profit both parties.

          The CFL team pays whatever they pay, say $150K, and the NFL team pays the rest (thus saving themselves some cash AND getting their player some real experience).

          The CFL can market better prospects, say guys like Kayaa or Mahomes(or a QB like Hundley who’s going to be buried behind Vadgers for years) while NFL teams essentially get a partially paid internship.

          The only real risk is injury, but hey, that’s also part of the NFL. Gotta find out if someone is inj prone too.

          I don’t know about all the red tape, but I would guess that playing live football would help many borderline pros transition from college to the NFL.

          Like McCarthy said, no substitute for experience.

          • SC Dave

            If there is a market, I can see the argument. Not sure if the CFL would swallow it’s pride to “officially” become a vassal of the NFL, but were the price right…

          • I think the CFL would in order to attain superior prospects. Like a few years back, they woud’ve KILLED for Tebus, and in with a partnership, Tebus would’ve had NO choice in playing there.

            Lots of college “studs” (who aren’t quite NFL ready) flooding the CFL would be welcomed by them, I think. Could even send them to the regions they played college in for extra fanbase appeal.

            Like if Barkley/Hundley would join an L.A. developmental team, he already has a built-in fan base that would sell tickets (and this is more so in the South and Midwest where they worship their homegrown heroes).

            But that would just be extra. $ talks, and I know if I owned a CFL team or whatever and had the chance to score say Goff or Kayya for a year, I’d jump all over it.

        • MB30SD

          Yes, try being a browns far. Other than that, no.

    • Johnnywad

      Just give him my number. I’ll get his head screwed on straight.

      The average NFL career is 3.3 years. Wonder how many bubble guys that would actually benefit from some B league action would be willing to give up NFL backup salaries in their athletic prime while they role the dice on actually getting better. Better enough to become NFL starters, while risking injury, for what would necessarily be significantly less money. Markedly better than they can get in NFL practices and training year round.

      It just doesn’t make any sense. If you can’t get good enough in the pros to play in the pros, you aren’t going to get good enough by playing shittier players. I concede that this may work for a few late bloomers. But enough to merit building a whole secondary league? I’d bet not.

      Kurt Warners story is by far the exception.

      • Huge Bears Penis

        who cares. If there are players willing to toil in a secondary league, let them. There are almost 6000 players in the MLB minors, which does not count the international and independent leagues. Hockey has 1000s of players in minors, NBA has several hundred not counting international leagues. Every year we see at least one player camping outside of team facilities hoping to news coverage and pity will get him an invite to camp. HBO has shows on training camps that focus on the underdogs. A couple years ago there was a TV show that gave players a chance to get invited to training camps. Hell the NFL held a Combine for former players just to allow them the chance to get noticed again.

        The point is that some of these players have a dream of making it and are willing to put in the work for low pay and risk of injuries. And there is some level of public interest. If the minor league teams were in cities the NFL aren’t they will gain a following. I am sure there are people in Omaha or OKC or Portland that would be willing to spend an afternoon/evening watching a bunch of minor leaguers battle it out on a grid iron. Every year each team cuts some 40+ players so it is not like these guys don’t want to play.

        • SC Dave

          Baseball… pussies.
          Basketball… who the fuck cares?

        • willbest

          The difference is NBA and MLB and even the NHL don’t destroy your body. Its one thing to break down for $470k. 3 years of that and you can have a middle class life the rest of your days if you are competent with your money. But 30k or whatever they would make in the minor? That is some serious debilitation, and most those guys would eventually end up with taxpayer assistance.

          The NFL needs to be made to pay for that.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            The storyline of the NBA, MLB and NHL don’t destroy your body is a bunch of horseshit. While I will give you that the level of physicality of their perspective games are nowhere near the same. But the other leagues play a crap load more games so the wear and tear is spread out across a longer period of time. Let me tell that story line to my cousin that had 2 elbow and 1 shoulder surgery in the 6 years he toiled in the baseball minors, while he was making a salary below the poverty line, or my old high school friend that had surgeries on his knee, hip and ankle, catching in the minors. Go play 80 games in 3 months and let me know how your body is after the season is over. then go play another 40-50 in a winter league.

          • willbest

            But his brain still works?

          • Johnnywad

            Hahahaha. So there is that.

        • Johnnywad

          I’m not saying you couldn’t field a minor league. I’m saying next to none of those players will ever make it out of it. I’m saying it wouldn’t develop enough players into NFL caliber to make it worth doing for the purpose of development. You want to set one up because you think people will watch it? Knock yourself out. But it’s already proven a bust. XFL, Arena League, Semi Pro Football (yes it existed. We had a local team that netted fewer fans than any local high school), NFL Europe. None of it works. Because it sucks to watch. Because the players aren’t good. The good ones are busy playing on Sundays on TV already. Shit. There are games on every single night of the week throughout the fall between college and the NFL.

          Just one guy’s opinion.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            understand, but your proven busts is a little off. XFL was run by Wrestling so it would never have lasted to much into the drama and not the game. NFL Europe lasted 17 years. There is still Semi Pro Football, and the Arena League lasted 30 years, and they are still going to try and make a season this next year.

            Besides that players I think everyone is overlooking another key element to a minor league. Every week someone, some team, some fan base is bitching about the poor quality of the refs. The minor league would also be a minor league for refs, maybe getting some new blood and competition between refs will make them perform better.

          • NFL Europe would def be the model if it’s a brand new league.

            We all know XFL was just a gimmick from the start. Their cheerleaders even looked like Tues night strippers

            http://www.kenn.com/images/blog/blog_xfl_cheerleaders_ny.jpg

          • Johnnywad

            Yep. Refs would be good. That seems to be a very real problem.

  • Sahr Gborie

    if you tag him again at17 plus the 14 from last year that’s almost 32 – 35 mil in 2 years. that’s his guarantee in a 3 – 4 year deal. he is worth more to a team that is ready to win right now than he is to the bears. plus you could sign someone more “available” for less money…kenny stills or kendyl wright

    • Stills and Wright are JAGs though. There’s a reason they’re available.

      Alshon is in another tier.

      He’s getting overpaid no matter what team, but I agree with Jeff.

      We’re so depleted at talent, no need to poke more holes in the dam.

      • SC Dave

        Yup. This.

    • SC Dave

      Those guys are nothing. AJ is a top 10 or 15 receiver. It’s a FUCKING no brainer.

      Unless you believe in Bust White.

    • willbest

      Its 11.8 or whatever from last year. They didn’t have to pay him for the games he was suspended.

  • SC Dave

    Excellent analysis, Jeff. Spot fucking on.

    The only Bears receivers with more yards than Jeffery are Harlon Hill (of whom most of you fuckers have no idea) and Johnny Morris (which you know, maybe, from TV)

    Alshon is the single most important “on the bubble” player that the Bears should sign.

    And its not even remotely debatable.

    • MB30SD

      Chicago is where wrs go to die.

      I mean you just proved my point. Fucking Harlin hill?!?! Jesus, let’s really shoot for the stars. Smfh

      • SC Dave

        Well, a career 20.2 yards per catch ain’t bad for old Harlon. I’d take those first three seasons in a heartbeat.

        http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HillHa00.htm

        I mean I know you hate Alshon, the best (edit: BEARS) receiver in your lifetime, but as an alternative you propose we have NO good pass receivers, because “that’s where they come to die”?

        I’m really trying to understand your point. I’m sorry, but I cannot fathom a reason why we would not want good receivers. And Alshon is, BY FAR, the best one we have.

        • MB30SD

          The. Best. Receiver. in. my. lifetime.

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            Somewhere, Curtis Conway and Willie Gault are crying in beers.

            Marty Booker just thinks that’s funny.

          • MB30SD

            And to and Randy moss and gault and rice and….

          • willbest

            of course you know the word “bears” was supposed to be in there.

          • MB30SD

            Yep, just fucking with Dave cause he gets so angry sometimes.

            MY point was, THAT’S the measuring stick you want to use?!?! Jesus.

        • Huge Bears Penis

          MB wants Hoyer as QB also so his sanity level has been very questionable lately.

        • SC Dave

          But I did *not* know this…

          “In 1986 a new award was created to highlight America’s best NCAA Division II players, named the Harlon Hill Trophy in honor of his playing career. Often considered the Division II equivalent of the Heisman Trophy, it is awarded annually during the NCAA Division II National Football Championship weekend in Florence, Alabama.”

  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    At the end of the day, players like Jeffery always get signed. It’s just probably not going to be the Bears. I expect AJ’s agent to highball the Bears. Highly doubt the Bears cave in.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      tag him.

      • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

        DONT TAG HIM!

        It’s so stupid to tag. These players, they will just go down with bullshit injuries if you tag them. And they get paid.

        There is simply no longer a downside to doing it, so they do it. Alshon does not want to be here, he hates it here, let him go or sign him and trade him.

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Eye agree.

        • SC Dave

          It’s so fucking pathetic when people pretend to believe they understand what someone else feels.

          Actually, pathetic is the wrong word. The right word is arrogant.

          You are incredibly arrogant to think you understand what AJ feels. It’s just so fucking stupid.

          Have you learned NOTHING in your entire life?

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Dave, we’re are all one sick twisted family here, let’s not forget that.

          • SC Dave

            Trac, it’s motherfucking stupid. Stupid to the point where it deserves ZERO respect.

            Zero.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Now that’s more like it. Lol

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            So when Bernstein and the score guys SAY – out loud – that their sources tell them Alshon hates it here – wants out – that is not worthy of the great SC Dave’s consideration?

            You’re the arrogant prick, because you squelch info and opinions that don’t jive with your warped perception of things.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Foodfight!!!

          • SC Dave

            I don’t know Alshon, so I won’t attribute knowledge about what he thinks. It’s that simple.

            It would seem that’s a bit beyond your understanding.

            Hopefully, I’m way wrong, but if not, I extend my condolences.

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)
          • SC Dave

            Yes, bored when you lose, eh?

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            oh yes, Dave, you win. You always win there, bigguns.

          • willbest

            biggly

          • MB30SD

            Lose?

            Dude, HERE are the facts:

            1. Alshon was tagged last year

            2. His stats here (too lazy… Like him… To actually post them)

            There you have it. Dude’s a POS. Buh bye. Trade the bum

          • willbest

            There is a difference between saying Jeffery hates it in Chicago and Jeffery is of low moral character who would do everything he could to get money without having to do the work.

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            So when guys who have positions covering football come on media outlets, guys who know the game a whole helluva lot better than YOU do, guys like Matt Bowen on the Score, come in and say Jeffery is a hot tub diva, Jeffery is soft, Jeffery doesn’t condition and has attitude – should we not repeat that?

            Because, you know, it’s mean?

            Fuck you.

          • willbest

            I pulled the Bears IR numbers for the last I think it was 15-16 years and in the John Fox era there have been twice as many people on IR than average. I believe the average was 8 (thanks in part to the Fox era), and he has had an average of 15.

            But besides that, Jeffery played every single game this year that the league let him and he did it on the tag. So you have can’t ignore, dick in your face evidence that he can and will play on the tag without coming up with bullshit injuries to stay in the hot tub.

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            Dick in your face? Ok, Rock Hudson, slow your roll. Your homoerotic tendencies are coming to the front, you want to keep repressing that.

            It was so so so mean for John Fox to express frustration with Alshon this season.

            http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-bears/bears-frustration-growing-around-injury-status-alshon-jeffery

            I mean, what is he, fucking Clarence the angel from a Frank Capra movie?

            John Fox cannot know what is in a man’s heart, can he? I mean, he’s a football coach and is paid to do that – but honestly, according to Will and Dave, only assholes do that! And John Fox is a good guy, a real mench.

          • willbest

            Is there some reason that you asserted Tag and BS injury in the same sentence and then proceed to only talk about 2015 when Jeffery wasn’t playing on the tag.

            Now he was playing on his rookie contract which was barely more than league min. And at that point the cost to his future self of an ACL or major injury far exceeded the cost of not playing. So perhaps you can talk about it in that context.

            But you didn’t. You said TAG and BS injury. And if you are trying to using anything other than 2016 for your analysis you are just being a toad.

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            I said don’t tag him.

            I said if you tag him, he will go down with another soft tissue injury. The Peds thing I didn’t say anything about, but MB did – and it’s also relevant to establishing his character. All the more support to skipping the tag and using his $15M for something productive and not on men with cuck in their heart. Doh! I just said it!

          • willbest

            But he has shown he plays on the tag, so why is he getting a soft tissue injury in 2017? What is your fucking logic?

          • MB30SD

            Plays what, like an OK #2? We agree on that

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            My logic is he showed up for the last few games BECAUSE he knew he was trying out for the league. Fuck Will, even the play by play guys SAID THAT WAS HAPPENING DURING THE FUCKING GAME!

            Him finishing strong was the difference to him of millions in contract dollars, and if you watch THIS SEASON’S games with the SOUND ON, you will hear the color guys all saying it.

          • willbest

            Does it matter why he plays as long as he does?

            I don’t think they should tag him because he is leaving anyway. No sense in wasting the money. But if you do tag him. He will play And you just agreed to that.

            As for why his numbers weren’t great. Maybe because the QB play was um… uneven.

          • MB30SD

            Always something. When you do the eye test, besides a couple plays a game, he really passes the life the team up #1 wr test for you?!?!

            You need glasses then maings. #2… Cuck.

          • willbest

            You mean when he is open and the ball isn’t thrown at him. Or the reason why he didn’t have 3 more TD’s is because the ball was under thrown. Throws a mean block. Or the fact that he is one of the best defensive WR’s in the league. Granted that last one isn’t as much of an issue if you move away from Cutler, but its still a skill a decent skill in a WR.

            Even if you include the WRs on the rookie contracts, I still am not getting past 15. And all those guys are going to make $14+ million eventually. It just so happens it is Jeffery’s time to make a deal.

          • MB30SD

            I have no issue paying him LOGICAL money dude, he simply hasn’t proven he can or wants to stay on the field.

          • willbest

            How does he do that? Because if I were so inclined I could find 20 guys you respect that have played less games than Jeffery over the last 5 years

          • MB30SD

            Please do

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            Jeffery has the best back shoulder fade move, the best jump ball and the best hands that we have seen since Marcus Robinson (who was the 2nd best jump ball guy the Bears had with Booker 3rd).

            Jeffery against the Cowboys made perhaps the #1 and #2 best catches a Bear ever made in any game, in the SAME game.

            He has huge talent, but he won’t be worth what the tag pays him, because his character is such he does not want to be here.

          • MB30SD

            Aka, “The Cuck”

          • MB30SD

            You guys think alshon the staypuff and Freeman were popped for the same thing?!

            Please. Alshon got popped for eating the wrong protein bar cause he’s a dipshit and he… Doooooont caaaaaaaare

          • MB30SD

            Ummmmmm

          • MB30SD

            Why, I totally agree. It’s exactly what would happen

          • willbest

            Except you have proof it didn’t.

          • MB30SD

            How’s that? He was tagged last year wasn’t he?

          • willbest

            And he played every fucking game he was allowed to.

          • MB30SD

            Yaaaaaawn. Injured, peds, injured. What were his stats… Worthy of #1 money in your mind?

            Guy’s a cuck dude. Time to move forward. We’re hopefully not going to have a chise to throw to him this year anyway

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            Don’t say cuck. It encourages Will’s repressed sexual imagery to come out in posts. Not pretty.

          • willbest

            Attack the person when you can’t make the argument.

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            I am not the one who started talking about johnsons.

          • MB30SD

            Will, is this true??

          • willbest

            GP seems to think so.

          • MB30SD

            Hmmmm, I’ll consult my copy of people next time I’m in line at the market

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            Coming from you Dave, that is the highest highest compliment.

            Seriously, I will go to bed with a smile on my face knowing I got it right.

          • SC Dave

            Be happy with it. Eventually, you will mature and know better. At least I hope so, for your sake.

          • MB30SD

            David, this post is silly. Reread today.

            Little heavy dude

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Maybe but why would a 3-13 team do that, unless that’s what 3-13 teams are good at. Meh, way more concerns for this team to address. WR is one of the final pieces teams try to wrap up when the are getting close to contending. There are bigger fish to fry.

  • willbest

    I would be surprised if Jeffery gets tagged. I don’t see any value in it.

    I don’t think tagged players put in any less effort. So I am not worried about him staying in the hot tub. He can’t afford that. He was on the sauce this year because he wanted his payday. If I were suspicious of anything it was that he took 2015 off because he knew it was going to be a shit year and he was going to eat the franchise tag anyway.

    Back to Pace though. What does Pace gain by keeping Jeffery around in 2017 if Jeffery doesn’t figure into the next 3-5 years? None. If Jeffery is dead set on testing FA, Pace can delay that until next year but then he has parted with 17.4 million more. Having Jeffery on our team next year gets us dick squat unless Jimmy G is a legit QB1, we grab ourselves some Berry, and Thomas is a legit disruptor DROY.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I’d be absolutely stunned if another team offered him 10M a year. Tagging would be uneccessary.

      • willbest

        People that make

        The 10-11 million dollar WR club is home to Maclin, Sanders, Austin, Hurns, Cobb, and Nelson. With the exception of Nelson who looked human so maybe not, I can’t think of one guy on that list I would want more than Jeffery.

        Here are other players I would rather have Jeffery than. Keenan Allen, Doug Baldwin, Dez Bryan, and Demaryius Thomas.

        Jeffery’s floor is $14 million a year and $30 million guarantees.

        • SC Dave

          This. So many on this blog are just idiots when it comes to Alshon and his worth. Better hope Brady doesn’t get him… he’ll average 16TD a season until Tom retires.

          • MB30SD

            Exactly!

            Thanks for making my point!!

            We’re not ready, and even if he wanted to play here and stopped being a cuck because he’s on a SB contending team… That’s not here.

            So why in the fuck would we keep him when it’s obvious that ain’t us and he doesn’t want to be here. If he wanted to be here he would have taken the deal that by all reports was a fair deal.

            My god you are the glory days king, time to move on maings. Build this team with guys who passionately want to be here. QB and wrs last… Def not this year and def not with softies who don’t want to be here.

          • SC Dave

            Again, like the other garbage, you have no idea whether he wants to be in Chicago or not. NONE of us do, including all the dimwit sportswriters that would have you believe THEY do so you’ll click on their miserable articles.

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            all these sportswriters and twatters and garbage bloggers, they ANGER Dave! Dave wants people to see that judgmental passions are WRONG!

            This is why Dave is a Trump guy. Trump does not judge unfairly. Only wisely.

          • SC Dave

            No, GP. It’s just that I would believe you over them, and you don’t know Alshon as far as I know.

          • MB30SD

            Pretty sure I’ve played him in Cod mid day…

          • MB30SD

            I just used the common sense-o-meter and the eye test man.

            Seriously, it’s pretty obvious he’s lazy, don’t want to be here, or is injury prone.

            No one’s arguing he doesn’t have talent or that he doesn’t have the potential to be chi’s best WR ever… We’re arguing for the production he’s not being reasonable in his contact expectations and we should pay a guy real #1 money when compared with real#1 guys around the league.

            Seems pretty straight forward to me?!

          • SC Dave

            And yet people argue the money does not matter.

            I don’t remember who made the argument, but it was good in that you can pay three “85” players, and they are between them worth less than one “95”. And so far as I can see right now, there are NO receivers available in FA that are better than Alshon.

            White is nothing, and so we would have only Meredith. Granted, he has shown upside, but is he what you want to roll with?

          • MB30SD

            With HOYER, Barkley or Shaw throwing to him… Yeah, who cares right?!

          • SC Dave

            Oh, and don’t forget, JAY CUTLER was throwing to him, and presumably, THAT is no longer a problem.

          • MB30SD

            My net here is that I don’t mind paying for a #1 guy, but his play has to be commensurate.

            Id say… If you have to tag a guy twice in a row in the modern nfl, ANY guy, it’s time to move on.

          • SC Dave

            I won’t argue with that, MB. Having to tag twice cannot be good. If nothing else, it means the franchise and the agent don’t get along.

          • MB30SD

            Exactly… So why force it or overpay?

          • SC Dave

            Because he is the only receiver we have, and we’ll pay as much or more for anyone we could get that’s as good. His agents need to stop being assholes so he can stay a Bear.

            ESPECIALLY since we have Howard now. Jordan and Alshon can both make each other way better.

            Do you want to see Howard get the living shit kicked out of him because we have no receiving threat?

            Didn’t you already see that happen once in your life to a Bears RB?

            Difference is nowadays, players can’t pop drugs like candy as they did 30 years ago and remain eligible to play.

          • MB30SD

            I agree 100%, it’s ALL about having the#s make sense Dave. Right now they (alshon’s team) aren’t allowing that.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            worked out ok for Ravens when they tagged Suggs in back to back years.

          • MB30SD

            One. Example.

            And suggs is a wild beast and totally worth it. Zero question about his heart or his cuck

          • Huge Bears Penis

            Walter Jones was tagged 3 straight years in Seattle. Nice HOF guy.

          • MB30SD

            What year?

          • Huge Bears Penis

            2001-2004

          • MB30SD

            Might as well be the 70s. Different erra maings

          • Huge Bears Penis

            Ryan Pickett in 2010 and 2009 by the Packers
            Karlos Dansby in 2009 and 2008 by the Cardinals

            need more then google it.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Hahaha. We’ve had your money so piss off?

          • MB30SD

            You

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            ‘s

          • willbest

            I wouldn’t go that far Dave. You can ask him and he will of course say he is grateful to the city and the fans for the opportunity, but there is plenty of opportunity for background or casual conversations. And then there is indirect evidence. Has he bought a house? Is he engaging with the community? Does he spend any portion of his off season here?

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            No.
            No.
            And…uh… no.

          • MB30SD

            Case closed? Cuck?

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            eventually that word will get old.

            that day is not today.

          • SC Dave

            He can live where he wants… he just made $12M last season.
            Granted, one only nets about $6M, but still…

          • MB30SD

            8ish

          • willbest

            Daves right, and it might even be lower than that.

            Assuming he isn’t playing games with foundations (and he probably is) his tax rate will be over 40% including federal, multiple states, and payroll. And then there is an agent fee of 3%, union dues. And additional medical expenses and rehab and all that other for his employment costs.

            Plus if you recall he sold 13% of all future earnings in exchange for 7 million up front or something like that.

          • MB30SD

            Yes I did… Forget

        • Def agree that Alshon is getting more than $10M.

          he is the god damn posterboy for WRs this FA.

          One of the reasons Pace tagged him this yr (wisely) was because last FA Alshon was by far the best WR in FA, and he figured, this FA perhaps he wouldn’t be, thus, costing less (supply/demand).

          But once again, for better or worse, Alshon is the top WR in FA, though Pryor is a close second.

          In other words, Pace gambled that he could re-sign Alshon, or at worst, the WR market would be more favorable to the Bears, but neither really happend.

          Alshon probably is demanding the same or even a little more this time around.

          • MB30SD

            I didn’t see games, but from the highlights I saw Pryor is the better wr

          • Pryor can dominate and still learning the position (and when you factor in the QBs the Browns rolled out last season…sheesh). Dude can be a monster.

            Edit

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O_-9nxnyNg

            HOWEVER, Pryor seems to rub a lot of players the wrong way, including his own teammates, and for some “mysterious” reason, the Browns essentially benched him.

            There’s something going on there. When the Browns bench anyone, esp ascending stars, flags are fucking raised.

            And even after all that, the Browns now say they’re working to extend him, so who the fuck knows?

            They’re the Browns.

          • BerwynBomber

            I’ll pat myself on the back for calling the Pryor as WR years in advance. There was an OSU-WIS game years back where the Buckeyes flanked Pryor out wide in the RZ and brought in their back-up QB and threw a fade to Pryor in the right corner of the EZ. He went up and snagged the ball like he was BMarsh. Right then and there I thought, “turn him into a WR immediately after drafting him and he might be a multi-PBer.” Dude had the size, speed and hands.

          • MB30SD

            Too bad by all accounts he’s a massive asshole

          • willbest

            Jeffery too little gives a fucks, Pryor too many. MB can’t win.

          • MB30SD

            Oh I’m all about bringing Pryor and all his fucks in.

          • Pryor looks awesome and can make plays.

            but yeah from all accounts, Pryor is a massive douchaine (seems to come with being super athletic).

            Got rid of Bmarsh for being drama.

            Got no issue with Pryor, as long as he’s thoroughly vetted about what went down in CLE.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, I wasn’t giving him a character reference. Just talking about his football ability.

            I also thought Tebow would have made for a helluva tight end, but that was more a hunch than anything else.

          • Malice Halice

            Playing for us he deserves commas. We need him till we find a 22yo savage

        • Malice Halice

          PREACH BROTHA

    • MB30SD

      Why not he’s done it the last three years.

      Dude’s a Hot tub Harry (I JUST made that up!!). Don’t tag him, put a boot in his ass

  • Huge Bears Penis

    I hope da Bears offer AJ $20 million a year for 5 years, just to piss a lot of you guys off.

    • MB30SD

      I’d only get pissed when he pulls a single ab muscle and mysteriously can’t play for like 6 weeks

      • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

        which he would.

        cause he’s a cuck.

        • MB30SD

          Bingo!

        • LMAOs

          You guys totally missed out on new Garage Band Name

          Moonbase Thai Trannies

          Or in Alshon’s honor

          South Carolina Fighting Cucks

          • MB30SD

            I like the last one

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            i would pay to see a scene where an astronaut comes in from space lock, lifts up the reflective shield, and it’s a Thai trannie and she says

            “me so hoooorrny. me love you long time”

      • I don’t know if he’s lazy or doesn’t want to be here.

        But my argument is: who else do we roll with at WR?

        Meredith? Meredith!?

        Braverman? Thompson?

        Broken ass cruz who can’t even salsa anymore lest his tendon rip?

        The options are bare unless you wanna go Mike Williams at #3

        • SC Dave

          It’s not about reason, Butch. Haters don’t care.

          • MB30SD

            I would say the same to you sir!

        • Huge Bears Penis

          DON’T MOCK BRAVERMAN!!!

        • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

          Terrell Owens needs a job.

          Motherfucker is sleeping in the back of a Tercel. so he’d be HUNGRY.

          • Honestly I think Owens can step in right now and be our best WR if Alshon is gone.

            The thing about crazy is that it can keep one dedicated, like that old vietnam vet who can still shoot a fly off a donkey’s ass from 100 yds out

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            https://youtu.be/2XOwNpZ9XDM?t=55

            Anthony Peter Coleman, dude. And Tony.

          • Bwhaha

            “You want a joke? God.”

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            I think one of us just found a new avatar.

          • MB30SD

            Please god

        • MB30SD

          My thing is it probably won’t matter much this year unless we go big and get tyrod or jimmyg.

          You’ll just have some cuck throwing to him anyway.

          Fix errathing else this year and figure it out next year.

          • Yeah but it’s better to have an experienced WR (in his prime) ready to go for when a real QB steps in.

            Like Steve Smith (but without the punching) when Cam came in.
            Or even Crabtree who not only helped Carr, but also Cooper.

            If White lived up to his hype, I’d have no issue letting Alshon walk, but christ, we got SHIT at receiver behind Alshon.

            Objectively speaking, Alshon might be the most talented player on the entire team, right there with Long .

          • Malice Halice

            …..(Jordan Howard coughs consistently)

          • I love me some Howard, but 1 season is still a bit early too call (See Hillis)

            No one else besides Long, maybe Sitton, has even come close to reaching the PB, and one might argue that the drop-off with Kush wasn’t even that much.

            But we all saw the dropfest Barkley had to live through without Alshon. holy shit.

          • MB30SD

            Freeman is by far the best football player on our team. By a cuntry mile

          • Love him too. But will have to see how he does OFF roids (see Merriman)

          • MB30SD

            Oh stop that

          • Clay Matthews looks pretty mortal now without the juice too.
            Happens.

            Hope not, but can.

          • MB30SD

            Sure

          • SC Dave

            … not inclined to argue, but Howard looks awfully good. and behind those two, it’s Alshon, Long (assuming he comes back full), and Hicks in my book.

          • MB30SD

            Howard one year… Freeman a career. But basically agree

          • willbest

            Howard only caught like half his balls too. Maybe Forte’s 85% average or whatever it was spoiled me, but I just shake my head when I see it. A shame because his field of vision is amazing.

          • and if our cowbell back has stonehands, only make receivers that much more vital.

          • SC Dave

            It the staff is worth a shit, they will drill his ass mercilessly on that. His hands are obviously *strong* (he does not fumble much despite his running style) but perhaps not supple.

          • From what I’ve seen, Howard has some soft hands, but he looks uncomfortable running routes, which throws off the timing. Outside of simple stuff like screens (and even then), Howard looks a bit awkward in the catching dept. Maybe another year in the system (and with a consistent QB) will help him gain confidence then he can just catch without overthinking.

          • SC Dave

            From your keyboard to him… the kid could be something really special.

            As well as he does running when he gets to the second level, he could be truly scary on routes out of the backfield. Especially the delay shit when he blocks first and he has only one LB to beat.

          • Johnnywad

            Drilling his ass mercilessly seems a little strong for dropping a few passes.

          • MB30SD

            That’s a fucking stretch if I’ve ever heard one.

            The problem is it’s not about talent dude, it’s about heart, it’s about desire, it’s about cuck.

          • Malice Halice

            There’s ALOT of fixin needing to be done. Qb then CB n S Imo. Throw majority on Tyrod if not, snatch D WATT then put the house on berry n da CB in Houston…. Mario too

        • Malice Halice

          What if Brandon Marshall nappy ass is in his ear?

      • Malice Halice

        I literally just laughed .

        • MB30SD

          Happy to help

        • willbest

          literally literally or figuratively literally?

    • willbest

      As long as Pace drafts Thomas or Hooker at #3, and gets rid of Cutler I don’t think MB cares what else happens to the roster.

      • Huge Bears Penis

        nope he is going to trade #3 for a QB

        • Malice Halice

          For fuckin who?! Don’t get me wrong I get a Lil stiffy thinking bout Tyrod on our roster but ain’t NO FUCKIN WAY I’m giving a 3rd pick for him!

          • MB30SD

            Sigh

      • MB30SD

        Will will will… That’s a great start to the off season, but I’ll have thoughts about erra move, don’t you worry

    • SC Dave

      Can only do one thumbs up. A pity.

      • MB30SD

        In your day this would be called throwing out the baby with the bathwater

        • SC Dave

          It would be worth it. And without Cutler, we could afford it.

          • MB30SD

            Silly… I’ll just be proven right again, assss usual Dave. Conte, wright, CD, etc… Etc…

            Siiiigh, sometimes being right allllllllllllllll the time gets to be so booooring

          • SC Dave

            Yeah, it was silly. But really, dude, go check out the Harlon Hill stats. Those first three seasons were insane.

            And you’re not right all the time. You were excited over Trevathan, and he’s mediocre at best. By halftime of game 1 last year, I was posting that Freeman was FAR better.

            But you did come around.

          • MB30SD

            That was in like 1910 dude!

          • SC Dave

            What about 134 catches for 3,041 yards and 31 TD in 36 games do you not like? Convert it to 16 game seasons, and you get 60 catches, 1352 yards, and 14 TD for two years.

          • MB30SD

            And a grand in 1910 would be work at least a $1000 today!

          • SC Dave

            Back when one could actually play defense.

          • MB30SD

            You KNOW we agree on that one my maings

    • Malice Halice

      15 it’s a deal

      • Dawngwills

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  • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

    Good God, Jeff quotes Jahns here:

    And, from my reporting, it’s clear the organization is concerned about Jeffery’s work ethic, how that work ethic has influenced his health and what to make of the four-game suspension he served in 2016.

    I guess George McCaskey and I will go hang out at assholes club. Assholes club is not fun, but the golf course is fantastic.

    • MB30SD

      Oh oh, can I join?!

      • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

        Ok, but you have to bring the JAG.

        • MB30SD

          That the same as the CUCK?

    • SC Dave

      Quoting Jahns, “from my reporting” management thinks this or that. Laugh out loud stupid. “From *my* reporting”, Hoyer will lead us to five consecutive Super Bowls. So there, Adam.

      Clearly, Alshon choosing NOT to participate in the “training plan” at Halas Hall that resulted in the most injuries in the history of the franchise is a problem with “work ethic”.

      Whatever. I’d call it common sense.

      • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

        So Adam Jahns is also an asshole?

        Just keeping it all straight in my little book, here…

        • Huge Bears Penis

          We are all assholes!

        • SC Dave

          Do you see the word “asshole” in that response?

        • SC Dave

          And your opinion on Alshon not participating in the training program that so well “prepared” the Bears for last season…?

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            perhaps if the Bears had a better conditioning program.

          • willbest

            All the position coaches seemed to think that too. They all fled

          • SC Dave

            Well, we can agree on that at least!

          • MB30SD

            Yup

          • SC Dave

            It has been brutal for years now. Really since Lovie was canned. Maybe we should get his S&C coaches back?

          • MB30SD

            Don’t even try it.

          • SC Dave

            Could it be worse than what we just saw?

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Slightly.

          • MB30SD

            Yep… Zero hope for anything in the future but the exact same thing year after year… And in fact worse once our super stars started to retire.

            Dave, we need to find you a time machine my man!!

            To 2006!!!

          • SC Dave

            I was just talking S&C, NOT Lovie!! And certainly not his OCs!!

          • MB30SD

            Exactly.

            Love rodger

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Where’s Sam Hurd when you need him right?

          • MB30SD

            Railroaded!!

          • Huge Bears Penis

            Federal Correctional Institution in Bastrop, Texas

          • MB30SD

            Sad

          • Huge Bears Penis

            i just looked it up on wikipedia, Hurd is considered a notable inmate.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Correctional_Institution,_Bastrop

          • MB30SD

            Did you read the article on his bust. Sucks, dude was an idiot not a drug smuggler.

          • At least he didn’t do that stupid first down celebration of Roy Willliams.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2shVrjliF3U

    • willbest

      I don’t know why McCaskey would care about a semi-retired player on his roster. He forced his 20 year old GM to hire a semi-retired head coach.

  • On a secondary note. This screams Hooker/Adams/Berry or CB in 2nd.

    http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/Bears-planning-to-bolster-secondary/9e8b361a-0f25-4189-b094-4437f6564520

    After the Bears generated an all-time franchise-low 11 takeaways in 2016, general manager Ryan Pace vowed to upgrade the team’s defensive backfield.

    “I honestly think we need to add more playmakers to our secondary,” Pace said in January. “We need to add more ball skills to our secondary. That’s on me and we’ll do that.”

    • Dawngwills

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      • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

        hey blondie you spammy cunt

        stop blowing your Land Rover dealer and tell us where you fall on the Alshon thing

    • willbest

      Somebody kidnap Berry’s niece.

      • MB30SD

        Doood

        • willbest

          You can make suicide jokes and I can’t make kidnapping ones? Somebody should post some rules somewhere.

          But do you think he comes to Chicago if we aren’t paying him significantly more? Remember a couple years back when the raiders were throwing money at second rate FAs? That’s us.

          • MB30SD

            Myself vs the chilluns will… Do it for the chilluns

          • Huge Bears Penis

            I agree that is a cold ass almost psychopathic joke.

          • MB30SD

            lawyers… amiright?!

  • I would work very hard to get Jeffery to sign a 5-year deal that’s basically 2 years fully guaranteed. Make it $32M if you have to, just make it so it’s your choice to keep him or not after those 2 years. They have the money to overpay for now.

    • MB30SD

      Does that mean we should? Hmmmm…

      • Bender McLugh

        Yes.

        • MB30SD

          Mmmmno

          • Bender McLugh

            Well yeah, with that attitude

  • Malice Halice

    Derelle Revis tho….. I will NEVER understand y famous people are assholes to their fans. Not paparazzi, but a fan.

    • MB30SD

      24/7 maings. You get tired of that shit.

      That said, he seems like a dick

      • CanadaBear

        Gotta agree but we have no idea what transpired between DR and Cecil B. DeMille before CBD took a nap.

    • CanadaBear

      2:45 AM is about all you need to know. I wouldn’t be very happy about somebody following me and filming me.

      • SC Dave

        What’s the old cliche? “Nothing good happens at 2am”?

        • MB30SD

          After midnight.

          But I catagorically refute that assertion. You just can’t be a fucking idiot, and know WHAT to do after 12.

          KnowwhatImean… Eh guvnah?

          • SC Dave

            I do.

        • CanadaBear

          Humphrey Bogart got into a tussle around that time and got arrested. When the press caught him leaving jail one of them asked, “Were you intoxicated?” He replied, “Isn’t everyone at 2 AM?”.

          • BerwynBomber

            That’s why Revis’s attorney’s statement ring so false. He was out checking on a piece of real estate at two in the morning? Yeah, sure.

            Interesting off-season upcoming for the Jets.

        • college evan had some really good moments at and after 2 am.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Cutting through all the unrelated bullshit surrounding the Alshon situation, one thing is certainly true. If we don’t have a gunslinger under center .. .AJ is useless to us. End of. He’s a receiver. A cog. The QB is the Great Oz.

    I’m looking at all this talk of bullshit passers – not worthy of the badges on their jersies. A dude here or there who can play – but would cost full NFL whack … a Pats backup that nobody knows what he would be like on the Bears and away from Bellifat.

    And the best option available is sitting right there on the roster IMHO.

    It’s about time for the real poll Jeff. The only poll.

    Do you want to have Jay Cutler as Bear’s QB – or at least on the roster – in 2017/18 – given the alternative veteran starters mentioned on these pages?

    • MB30SD

      Fuck. No.

      Better now?

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Actually Irish, it seems to be all about creating the perfect vagina.

      http://nypost.com/2017/02/16/my-day-at-the-designer-vagina-showcase/

      • MB30SD

        Oooh oooh oooh… I want one!!

        • Huge Bears Penis

          finally decided to get the transition surgery?

          • MB30SD

            yep… and turning my penis insideout should give me a MASSIVE vagina.

            That’s how it works right?

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            I dunno which is worse? A little pussy or a big one? Hmm….

          • MB30SD

            Big I assume.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            I’ve never been called either. I think.

          • MB30SD

            Good for you. I’ve been called both.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            It’s a term of endearment.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Hahaha. I stopped reading after soft, pink and hairless. That’s all I needed to know.

      • BearDown100393

        Was surprised the link did not redirect to the Green Bay official site.

    • “If we don’t have a gunslinger under center .. .AJ is useless to us.”

      Was McNown a gunslinger? Alshon had his best games with him driving the train.

      • MB30SD

        Is that a call for a reinstatement!

        • i’ve already started the petition at whitehouse.gov

          • MB30SD

            Good luck, they’re too busy building a wall… to keep the media out.

      • Huge Bears Penis

        McNown did throw a lot of jump balls to him.

        • worked for stafford and megatron.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Do we really need a poll?

  • bearfacts

    Two seasons of nothing from Kevin White have painted Pace into a corner as far as AJ goes. He can’t allow his top offensive players to leave getting only mid to late round picks for them in return and expect to build an offense. Tagging AJ again while attempting to work out a longer term deal is the only thing Pace can do to protect their investment in him. If he can’t sign him he needs a high draft pick to replace him with.

  • Redflagdan

    I don’t feel he has earned a long term contract. Tag him and make him earn that long term contract. If he fails, then address the WR position in 2018. In the meantime we need to find our franchise QB.

    • MB30SD

      we tried that. Same shit will happen…

      • Redflagdan

        Well then who will be the #1 receiver for 2017? I agree I don’t think he will earn that long term contract with the Bears. Tagging him IMHO is a stop gap measure so we can work on getting a franchise QB this year.

        • MB30SD

          as I said below, I don’t think it really matters much with hoyer/barkley/shaw back there.

          Fix errathing else then sell the farm to get your chise and a decent #1 next year.

        • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

          Spend the money on Pryor and Josh Gordon.

          • MB30SD

            Not sure about Gordon but def Pryor

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Yeah man, he can be our 3rd string QB as well. Boom!

          • SC Dave

            This Pryor?
            http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PryoTe00.htm

            One season and you two are all in on this guy?

          • MB30SD

            You’re doing the exact same bud.

            Alshon’s had one good Fucking year and a bunch of bullshit. What’s the diff

          • willbest

            Two great years.

      • SC Dave

        Maybe, maybe not. It would be nice to see AJ have *one* QB not named Cutler for a full season. Shit, it wouldn’t be bad for Cam either.

        • MB30SD

          Agree 100%

          That said, you’re willing to pay the guy #1 money for fucking maybe or maybe not?!?!

          THAT is my issue here alone… I’d be totally fine paying him #1 money if he earned it.

          Remember, we had this exact discussion last offseason to… This EXACT same one. He was on a price it year, and ummm….

          Buh bye. Go fleece some other team.

          • But we MUST overpay MB. U yourself have said we’re fucking clown shoes, Browns north, and ur right.
            Part of sucking balls is overpaying cuz talent is sorely lacking.
            It’s gonna be like that 1 yr Cargo was paid more than Brady or Vadgers.
            Just gotta suck it up cuz the alternatives are scary

            (going full Lions? No team should ever go full Lions)

          • MB30SD

            true enough! Sign him up!!!!

  • BearDown100393

    Stop gap quarterbacks and question whether or not to sign/tag the #1 WR. And this is rebuilding?

    • BerwynBomber

      Yup. Third year of it.

      • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

        Hoyer to Meredith for the score!

        • MB30SD

          300/2/0!!!!

          • Huge Bears Penis

            136/0/4/2!!!!

          • MB30SD

            With the bears?!

            Which game was that??

          • willbest

            Josh McCown has the best Bears record over the last 4 seasons.

          • MB30SD

            Go all in will, aallll inn.

            (PS, that’s not saying much of anything)

          • Huge Bears Penis

            like i said before if you are going to cherry pick stats across a career I will do it to.

          • MB30SD

            I’m giving you the last know, you’re giving me some ol boolsheet

          • Huge Bears Penis

            ok then 1-4

          • MB30SD

            Apples and oranges. HIS stats, not the teams stats… unless you also want to list the WR and Ds stats too?

          • Huge Bears Penis

            OK then at least 0-1 for even seeing a wide open WR in the endzone for a game winning TD

  • MB30SD

    What is a total and abject shitshow Alex!

  • willbest

    HP announced that any lawfirm doing business with it, over 10 lawyers in size, has to assign at least 2 non male, person of color, disabled, or non-heterosexual white male to do actual legal work for the company. Though if a person satisfies 2 check boxes you only need one of them.

    http://www.abajournal.com/files/Diversity_Holdback_Open_Letter_to_Law_Firms-min.pdf

    I think somebody in HR forgot to run this by somebody in legal before they sent out the notice.

    • extra credit if a person can check off 4 boxes?

      • MB30SD

        are there any of those?

        • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

          how can you be a gay man, and also not a man?

          and don’t say Bruce Jenner.

          • willbest

            I am pretty sure Bruce went from a heterosexual man to a homosexual woman. Though if I am understanding these 30 odd genders correctly you can be bother gender male and female simultaneously. So a bisexual, biracial, bigendered person would hit all the boxes.

          • willbest

            excuse me. Also disabled.

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            just hire Mr. Glass and I think you’re golden

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4krefTqlJg

            Upside: All that phat HP work
            Downside: Criminal mastermind will try and kill your law firm

            He is not a mistake!!!

          • willbest

            I wonder how many disabled, bisexual, biracial, bigendered individuals are also smart enough to pass the Bar. There is probably like 2 on the entire planet.

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            they might be in the wheelchair BECAUSE they tried to be bigendered.

            But then they would just be plaintiffs.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            You can be what ever you want to be GP.

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)
          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            What guarantee do I have before I open that? I have an image in my mind of a hairy Egyptian snatch covered in spider webs.

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            Only Marlo Thomas snatch. Promise.

          • MB30SD

            Debbie jenner

          • Ask MB

          • MB30SD

            haaaaateeeed iiiiiiiiiiittttt!!!

            And you get a car, and you….

        • Cormonster

          My cousin has a black, disabled, transgender roomate making the switch to female. It’s his equivalent of a trophy wife to show off to all his Antifa and SJW friends at protest marches every week.

          • MB30SD

            interesting.

          • Cormonster

            His facebook and twitter posts make for some fascinating reading. He works at a church for his militant feminist girlfriend who also happens to be the chaplain. As far as I can tell most of his work duties are organizing and leading protest marches 3-4 days a week. He also seems to hate white males like himself. He’s always apologizing for his whiteness and maleness for causing all the problems in the world. He is one strange cuck.

          • MB30SD

            Sounds cuck

  • willbest
    • MB30SD

      Why, I’ve got 2 pounds in my bag ready to go tomorrow.

  • willbest

    Time to do away with the Olympics. This was an appalling waste of money.

    http://abcnews.go.com/International/arenas-rio-falling-olympic-games/story?id=45533850&cid=social_twitter_abcn

    • BearDown100393

      It usually is.

    • SC Dave

      Or establish a permanent site.

    • well. they’re great when they’re in America. Lake Placid still uses the facilities from 1980, and Utah is in much better shape because of all the infrastructure improvements that were made.

      maybe we should stop having them in countries that are falling apart and could use the billions of dollars to actually fix their country, instead of creating a big circle jerk for the rest of the world?

      • willbest

        Not enough kick back to the IOC.

      • Johnnywad

        What’s a few billion anymore?

        • a fraction of the amount donald is getting from 19% ownership stake in Rosneft?

          ZING!

      • MB30SD

        but then what would those countries leaders do with their only half full swiss bank accounts full of coruption money!??

        Think of them Will!!! They can barely get by with only a half coffers HALF full of the people’s pilfered millions?!? You heartless asshole!

      • Exactly. It’s like when ppl use a third world country to disprove a political system.
        News flash. It’s a failed state to start. Shits gonna fail.

  • Wobbly Pop

    And so it goes again that writers always seem to exclude the idea that the transition tag is even out there or in play ! Further they never seem to mention that the Bears could make any contract up based on X or Y or Z as an incentive . Such as no failed tests = XXX and XXX bonus for games played , catches , yards , TD’s and off season in Chicago’s facility workouts etc ! Sheesh most anyone on this board would know to do that with Jeffery . And if he balked then either trans tag at top 10 Vs top 5 for Franchise tag so we can see market and decide then to let him walk if another team out bid us !

    • willbest

      The transition tag is the same amount as the franchise tag due to Jeffery’s salary last year.

      And if Jeffery is hell bent on leaving he will just sign the tag get paid an obscene amount and move on.

      • Wobbly Pop

        I just read the transition tag description a few hours ago again but may have missed something ! Can you steer me to the part where it says the transition tag is the same amount as the franchise tag due to Jeffery’s salary last year? I looked around and cannot find anything like that but seem to have missed it if you have . So i would like to look at it so as to be better informed via actual tag info in full . Thanks for any help on this !

        • willbest

          I think it was JD (of ESPN) or maybe Biggsy that tweeted it out a couple weeks ago in response to some reader inquiry

          • Wobbly Pop

            Humm i follow Biggs and do not recall it so must have been Dickerson as i don’t care for or follow him ! Biggs i find more down to earth and Dickerson a more self absorbed i’m right always kinda guy . Just my HO so i steer away due to personality is all and would not have seen a post . thanks for the info !

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      No tranny’s allowed.

  • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

    Now we’re cooking with gas!

    Will, I’m beginning to like your man. A few weeks in, and already we’re mobilizing and kicking in doors!!

    https://apnews.com/5508111d59554a33be8001bdac4ef830?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP

  • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

    Westworld says it computes the importance of getting it’s pick correct. It is using Bayesian analysis with some time-series for error correction to develop a flawless statistical model of what to do next:

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-bears-quarterback-search-ryan-pace-spt-0219-20170218-story.html

    • I was actually reading a gaming mag and supposedly one game creator, don’t know if it was for the FIFA franchise, was used by not only players to scout and figure out which teams to join, but even by executives.
      Don’t think Madden is there yet but getting one step closer to AI overlords

  • Zap Rowsdower (GP)
    • SC Dave

      It would be so Bears if he went back to Denver for a 4th round pick and immediately won the AFC Championship.

      • willbest

        See, GP doesn’t just post fake news about Trump. He posts fake news about Cutler too.

        • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

          is it fake?

          We need the Willbest browser plugin to tell us what’s real.

      • CanadaBear

        If the Bears could get a 4th rounder for Cutler they should jump on it.

    • I think Broncos are the last team Cargo would join.
      Supposedly when he was at dinner with Elway he showed up late, kept looking at the clock and his cell, and just zoning out.
      Cutler also claimed he had a better arm than Elway
      How many SB rings does Elway have now, snd counting?
      CuttyBadger don’t care

      • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

        doooooooon’t

        he’s gonna bring that hibachi with him.

      • MB30SD

        fuck that horse face dickbag

  • willbest

    And to continue my series on disaster porn. This won’t end well either.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/feb/16/woolly-mammoth-resurrection-scientists

    • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

      I smell a new Redskins mascot!

      • SC Dave

        Some snowflake out there would no doubt object; after all, it is their raison d’être to take umbrage.

    • MB30SD

      My dad’s super into this and evolution and species augmentation and everything to do with climate change and how it’s impacting the natural world.

      Pretty fascinating stuff.

  • GREAT NEWS.

    I scored my Phish tickets. See you all there!

    • You’re taking hipster to a whole other level Evan

      • hipsters like bon iver. not phish.

    • MB30SD

      Jesus, phish REALLY??!?

      They’re still around? God damned stinky hippies

      • still around. still selling out show after show. still the best live show you’ll see.

        • MB30SD

          nice.

          Not my style really. I’m more of a beastie boys, janes adiction, pearl jam live guy.

          • saw beastie boys on the ill comm/hello nasty tours. fun, but not great.

            i dig pearl jam. have seen them a few times.

            i can’t see seeing either of the 68 times i’ve seen phish.

          • MB30SD

            You have seen phish 6….8… times!???

            Holy fucking Psilocybin batman!

          • next one’s lucky 69.

          • Cormonster

            Good for you man! I’m not big into Phish, but I do love me some jambands. The beauty is it never gets old because every show is different.

            Have you heard of Holly Bowling? She does a lot of Phish and Grateful Dead interpretations through piano arrangements. She’s been to over 300 Phish shows.

          • yeah, love Holly. have seen her here in NYC a couple of times, and play her a lot for my toddler. he’s a big fan.

            which jam bands are you into? ever listen to Pigeons Playing Ping Pong? bunch of young guys on an upward swing – touring and criss-crossing the country playing over 100 shows a year. i can’t imagine that sort of life.

          • Cormonster

            I’ve been totally geeked out on Warren Haynes for the last 25 years, so my favorites are Gov’t Mule and Allman Brothers. I lost track a long time ago, but I’ve probably seen Warren close to 100 times. The Grateful Dead and many of its permutations. I’m more into the blues and Southern rock type jam bands. Not sure if it’s a jam band, but I’m a huge fan of Tedeschi Trucks also. Most of the jam band shows I go to are local and regional acts from the upper midwest. There’s a great music scene, relative to it’s size, where I live in La Crosse, WI.

            I seen Holly at the Warren Haynes Xmas Jam last December and I was really impressed. She played solo piano in between all the other bands. She also tore it up with Bob Weir and friends.

            Never heard of Pigeons Playing Ping Pong. I’ll definitely go give them a listen.

          • CanadaBear

            I’ve always considered TTB a Blues Jam Band. The only bands I’ve seen in the last 5 years that most of the blog have heard of is Santana and Bob Seger. Got comped to the Mick Fleetwood Blues Band last Fall and looking forward to getting comped to the Mavis Staples show this Summer. The best bands I’ve seen in the last year or so is Dave and Phil Alvin (The Blasters) and C.J. Chenier (Zydeco). Seen tons of Blues bands but most on here wouldn’t know any of them.

          • Cormonster

            I feel guilty that I haven’t even listened to all the CD’s you gave me yet. My computer drive wasn’t working right, so I just bought an external drive. I need to spend a day getting all that stuff downloaded into my itunes.

            Mavis Staples sounds like a good show. She’s still got it. I seen her on PBS last year and a video with her and LSD from a couple years ago. Speaking of LSD, gonna go see them in Minneapolis and Des Moines in two weeks. Pretty pumped about that.

            Your not gonna believe this, but I’m going to my first straight up country concert next weekend. Going to see Jamey Johnson with some friends in Milwaukee. I was so impressed with him at Xmas Jam that I wanted to go see him again. One of these days we’re gonna go to some shows together. It’s only fitting.

          • keep an eye out. like i said, they tour like mad (nearly 200 shows per year, according to the internet. so i was off by about 100). chances are they’re in your hood the day after tomorrow.

            i’m a big mule fan. have seen them a few times. would’ve loved to see them when wooten was filling in on bass for a hot minute, but you snooze you lose.

          • Cormonster

            Thanks for the recommendation. I’ll definitely check out that live show. I’m a youtube junkie. I spend way more time watching live performances on youtube than TV and movies combined. I already checked out their schedule. Sadly, nothing close to me for a while. I’ll keep an eye out.

            This is my off-season for work, so I go to a ton of shows. I’ve seen about 25 bands since December 1, and got shows lined up every weekend through March in a variety of genres. Being single with no kids definitely helps in that regard.

          • if you’ve got more time to kill, here’s some HD footage of their last album release party: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NThY83PK7ZM

            greg (lead vocals) is real fun to watch on stage. really gets into it and interacts with the crowd.

          • MB30SD

            recently I’ve seen the foo, silver sun… I saw stp a couple times. The foo puts on a pretty fucking pimp show.

          • I’ve seen a lot of bands through the years. Since Coachella is out here, I kinda just went to that and knocked off a lot of bands off the list. Depeche Mode, Morrissey, She Wants Revenge, Oasis, Bjork, even Madonna one year when she just showed up, wasn’t even on the bill (and naturally, like every DJ and small band on the planet).

            Seen STP and Red Hot Chilis Peppers a few times too. They fucking rocked it.

            Never seen Pearl Jam though. ALways wanted to see them but for a long time they wouldn’t go through Ticket Master so the venues were always out in the boonies.

            Saw NIN too, but they were disappointing compared to their vids. Trent was sobered up. Didn’t even do one encore, and that was at the Hollywood Bowl too. Fucker.

            The surprise bands that I had a lot of fun with were Duran Duran and The B52s!

            Duran Duran just had song after song that I’m like, “holy shit, forgot how good they were” and the B52s were just really fun.

            Saw a lot others too like Ozzy, No Doubt, Sixoxsie and the Banshees, Bush (first concert), The Cure, The muse, and once at some party, the guitarist for Rage Against the Machine (went by “the Dark Knight”) did a lil unplugged for us, which was awesome.

            Ahhh….reliving my youth…now, time to bang two coeds at a hotel tonight lol

          • i saw RHCP and STP play together 3 times, with STP the opener at each show.

            They blew Chili Peppers out of the water every time.

          • haha, you probably saw the same tour I did!

            Agree. STP fucking rocked.

            And he did that at the KROQ Weenie roast too.

            Some band, wanted to go on last instead of STP, but dude came out in a tutu (like MB) blasting Vasoline and killed it. Don’t even remember who came last lol

  • willbest

    Here you go GP. Donald Trump acts the way he does because of Syphilis.

    https://newrepublic.com/article/140702/medical-theory-donald-trumps-bizarre-behavior

    • Just like Hitler!

      Actually Daily Show offers another theory.

      http://www.cc.com/video-clips/2y1cjt/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-president-trump–america-s-xenophobic-grandpa

      Trump is just your old racist sexist grandpa who still refers to asians as “orientals” and legs as “gams”

      • Huge Bears Penis

        and MB?

        • MB30SD

          Yes!

    • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

      The symptoms of neurosyphilis are protean, varying widely from one individual to another. Commonly recognized symptoms include irritability, loss of ability to concentrate, delusional thinking, and grandiosity. Memory, insight, and judgment can become impaired. Insomnia may occur. Visual problems may develop, including the inability of pupils to react to the light. This, along other ocular pathology, can result in photophobia, dimming of vision, and squinting. All of these things have been observed in Trump. Dementia, headaches, gait disturbances. and patchy hair loss can also be seen in later stages of syphilis.

      Nice. Do you think Jeff has it too? He just THOUGHT drinking was bringing him down.

      • MB30SD

        I DEFINITELY think Dave does. Hahahaha

        I need Dave, I keed

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        So that’s way Hillary always wears sun glasses.

        • willbest

          Hillary has Parkinsons

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            That too?

          • MB30SD

            80% of koala bears have chlamydia

          • CanadaBear

            How much time have you spent in Australia?

          • MB30SD

            Zero, yet. My CEO is a dirty Fucking Ozzie and we have plenty of biz there so I’ll end up there once or twice a year from now on.

            Looking forward to seeing it all.

          • CanadaBear

            You missed my joke. I was blaming you for the koalas stds.

          • MB30SD

            I got it, just ignored it because it was mean.

          • don’t make me google that

          • MB30SD

            It’s true, promise

    • The honeymoon is over. Fox already calling Trump a pathological liar

      https://youtu.be/s6zHY3C6Vwk

      • MB30SD

        Hahahahaha… You mean Fox is actually telling the truth for the first time ever?!?!

        • Strange times indeed my friend

        • SC Dave

          Hate to burst your bubble, but all US news you have watched your entire life was leftist lies. Until Fox, where there were finally right wing lies on major media.

          Like so many, you dont seem able to handle a network that does not lie on behalf of the left.

          • Which news outlet, tv, internet, paper or otherwise, do you trust SC?

          • willbest

            None. News isn’t in the information business. Its in the eyeballs business.

            I delivered a legal opinion a couple weeks back and charged $6000 for it. Nobody pays that for news. All of us pulling our money together? NYT gets over half its revenue from ads. The news is a cost to them in order to generate eyeballs to sell ads. What do all good companies? minimize costs.

          • If the all news is truly dead, then democracy is also truly dead, even this crony capitalist plutocratic version of it.

            Mad Max with mortgage payments.

          • willbest

            Just because you can’t trust something doesn’t mean its not useful though. The NYT is useful for understanding what coastal elites tell each other. Even if you can’t trust it to provide an honest account of what happened. And there is always going to the original source and looking at the original data.

            For example, I trust what wikileaks revealed about the DNC. I don’t trust wikileaks, but I do trust a situation where nobody counters something that damning with genuine evidence to the contrary.

            Problem is people don’t have the time to spend comparing multiple sources with different agendas to attempt figure out the truth. You do it for wherever your job takes you, but elsewhere you are either putting yourself in the hands of another, or knowingly resigning yourself to only knowing part of the information.

            I am convinced that is why moderates and politically exist. They instinctively know that most things coming their way is bullshit, and don’t really want to spend the time trying to figure it all out.

          • I sorta do the same. I actually enjoy watching Fox News more. I don’t get my panties in a bunch cuz of what ppl say there. I can detach myself from the obvious ratings ranting and see how they’re trying to spin it. Then flip to MSBC and see how they’re trying to spin it.

            Dunno if any truth can be extracted by that method, but at leas I kinda see the pro-con and make up my own mind as to which seems more plausible.

            But I do watch enough Fox to realize that many are highly critical of Trump, and it’s not just the National Review/Bush crowd, and to simply dismiss it or say “totalitarian propaganda” is simplistic.

            I mean, Fox a leftist puppet? lol

            That’s one step away from tinfoil theory that maybe Shepard was abducted Manchurian candidate style.

      • willbest

        I flipped between local Fox and NBC for election night which aired a lot of the Fox News and MSNBC national coverage. Shep Smith was on suicide watch by the end of the night with Chuck Todd and Rachael Madcow. If he isn’t a leftist he is NeverTrump.

      • SC Dave

        What fucking honeymoon? Fox has hated Trump all along.

        I’m surprised you have stooped to spreading the lies of the Totalitarian Left, Butch.

        I really am.

        • willbest

          Some of Fox hated him. Hannity didn’t. O’reily, I don’t think did. Tucker doesn’t. Shep, Greta, and Kelly did.

          • Exactly. Not all of the Fox crew hates Trump.
            I don’t track Fox enough to see who’s in which camp, but that sounds about right.

        • Fox News is now the totalitarian left, SC?
          C’mon now.

          Many republicans despise Trump. Or worse, they don’t despise him (like Obama) but find him unfit for the oval office.

          That’s not some totalitarian propaganda, but cold hard facts.

          If you want to argue that those Republicans are wall street crooks, Evangelical nuts, military industrial warhawks, etc, then fine…but they’re still Republican

          • willbest

            No the totalitarian left sells Fox News as 100% on the Trump train so it can pretend that even it is abandoning Trump.

          • I don’t recall Fox News ever being that critical of G.W. in his 8 yr term even at his most unpopular.

            And Trump JUST started.

          • willbest

            But W is establishment GOP pro crony capitalism, pro war in 3rd world country, pro big government. Nobody knows what the fuck Trump is.

    • SC Dave

      “Two days later, he told CNN’s Jake Tapper, “We all have this suspicion that—you know, that he’s not—he lies a lot…And, you know, that is not the norm for a president of the United States, or, actually, for a human being.”

      HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!
      These people are so transparent. The fact that Bill Clinton and Obama were habitual liars is of course lost in the mist of the author’s ideological fog.

      • willbest

        Al Franken suffers from LSD induced dementia. I try not to take anything he says personally.

        • SC Dave

          I take him neither seriously nor personally. He’s a retard.

      • Lying about blowjobs is one thing. Lying about conspiring w Russians to win election is a whole nother level
        I’m sure those jobless rust belt supporters are swimming in $ now

        • willbest

          “If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor” “If you like your healthcare plan you can keep your healthcare plan”

        • MB30SD

          no it’s not. same thing dude. A blowjob to a conservative is paramout to murder…

          …until they’re found in a truckstop bathroom sucking off some male hooker for crack of course. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1OXAi7rNMg

        • Cormonster

          Bill Clinton was a habitual liar from day one. I remember, because I believed all his shit when he ran for office and voted for him in ’92. A middle class tax cut was one of the main planks of his platform. About a month after the election, he said oops, our numbers are wrong. We need to have a major tax increase on the middle class. Christopher Hitchens even wrote a book about the Clinton’s called No One Left to Lie To.

          • MB30SD

            corm, wait… are you telling me that ALL politicians…. lie!?!?

            Shut. the. front. door.

          • Cormonster

            Read my lips, ALL politicians lie!

          • MB30SD

            exactly my maings.

          • I see what you did there.

            However, Trump’s lying is alarming. I mean. lying about taxes, previous business venture, military record, campaign promises etc, the norm.

            But lying about shit like he won the most electoral college votes since Reagan, or crowd and inauguration, etc that shows some pathological unhinged tendencies.

            I think I told the story of my cousin who claimed he was in the Italin Mafia. Then Mexican Mafia. Then he joined the military and became a SEAL, and became rambo in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

            He always used to have all these “model” girlfriends, who naturally, were always “away” in Paris and Milan.

            Never met them. Even had a girl call and keep up the charade.

            When I pulled his lil brother to the side and asked, “wtf is this chick?”

            His lil brother responded, “Oh, that’s some fat chick down the street. He bought her a walkman”

            The Mafia-Seal-Ninja immediately jumped in and punched him screaming,” You’re a fucking liar you little punk. You’re just jealous you can’t get chicks!”

            Ladies and gentlemen, your POTUS.

          • MB30SD

            You’re a fucking liar you little punk! you just can’t get chicks!

            ~ will

          • MB30SD

            and it’s totally alarming.

            And then when one of the press guys stood up and basically called him a lying buffoon right there on the spot and read him the actual facts….

            …there was zero, holy shit, they just caught me making shit up, he calmly shrugged it off, ‘oh, someone told me that’.

            dude is a fucking disgusting human-type life form.

          • It’s the EXACT response my cousin had when someone confronted him on his BS.

            My cuz would get so mad, and throw such a tantrum when someone would call him on his lies, that eventually it just became easier just to let him believe whatever delusions he made up (it’s not as if he had access to nuclear codes or the most powerful military in the world or anything).

            I myself one time pressed the issue with one of his “phantom” girlfirends (as everyone starting calling them).

            We actually drove to a house. He was nervous as fuck. Kept saying, “Well, she’s never home” I kept pressing, “We JUST talked to her.” He’d come up with another line, “It’s getting late” – “It’s only 10pm”. “I don’t recall which house. She just moved here” “I have the address”. Finally after driving around the block a few times, he said, “Nah. I think we can see her another time. She’s not picking up her phone”

            I was so fucking mad at first, but then he sorta became a tragic figure to me at that point, like Don Quixote.

            The problem with Trump is, he’s not some harmless codger. If he charges at windmills, that windmill might be China, N Korea, Iran or Russian, and he’s gonna be charging with Abraham tanks and a million young american soldiers.

          • MB30SD

            jep

          • SC Dave

            Hahahahah!!!

            Trump is less than 10% as likely to go to war with Russia than Hillary would have been.

          • willbest

            But that plays into the conspiracy theory that he is a Russian pawn. See a proper President would start WW3.

          • SC Dave

            Exactly. Nothing like a nice war to fire up the revolutionaries.

            You know, the useful idiots of the Communists.

            So far, Soros seems be doing well.

          • Cormonster

            Yeah, it’s definitely concerning, especially the lying about shit there is no reason to lie about.

        • SC Dave

          Hahahaha.

          Idiotic conspiracy theories. You need a late night radio show, dude.

          • Which “conspiracy” theory are you referring to?
            Didn’t Nixon say it was all a conspiracy too?

            I don’t know if it’s true or not (never said that either way), but it’s def worth investigating.

            Where there’s smoke, there’s fire, and there’s a lot of fucking smoke right now.

            It doesn’t concern you that Russia may have influenced a US election?

            It does me. And I heard former intel agents who don’t think it’s a far reach. Russia and China are always trying to hack and undermine U.S. interest.

            We gotta find out if they’ve succeeded.

            One of my favorite movies is “Breach”

            That shit happens.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Check out The Americans. Great show. And that’s how it was/is.

          • Irish Sweetness

            On June 26th, 1993, Clinton launched 23 Tomahawk missiles on Baghdad in response to an alleged thwarted assassination attempt on Bush Snr. in April of that year in Kuwait.

            Ariana Grande was born the SAME DAY in Boca Raton.

            Coincidence?

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Let’s not forget the Balkins.

        • Waffle

          Butch, in the first part you sound like an adult and in the last sentence you sound like a fucking 20yr old piece of shit millennial that doesn’t understand why fiscal policies probably don’t take a couple of weeks to have an impact on the economy. I’m not even saying Trump’s policies will ever work but why even put that last sentence in there? arggh, It just makes me want to punch your dumb face.(conte’s face)

          • willbest

            That is Conte? I thought that was Butch. Learn something every day.

          • Calm down Cutty fluffer.

            Of course I know it’ll take time for Trump’s trickle down (see what I did there?) to reach those po folk in the rust belt and else where.

            Maybe they’ll get a drop or two, ya know, kinda like the last shake or two at the urinal, like those drops, may go to them, but nothing more.

            Would this be different under Hillary? Who knows? I didn’t vote for her either, so it really doesn’t matter to me.

            My point being, there are DEGREES. The republicans impeached Clinton, a rather popular president for getting a blow job.

            Conspiring with Russians to win elections is MUCH more serious (as was lying about weapons of mass destruction to avenge daddy).

            I have issues with Obama too. He’s drone killed a lot of fucking ppl for my taste, but at I don’t think anything he did remotely sniffed treason. Trump’s barely in office and there’s mass protests, talks of impeachment and conspiracy rumors already.

            To me, this has little to do with Rep/Dem (again, I’m neither) but rather NATIONAL security/sovereignty and international power/influence.

            If I’m the leader of China, and I see an orange reality tv star across the negotiation tables, holy shit, I’d try my best not to laugh, and take him for as much as possible.

            GW might have had greedy war hawks advising, but he had an infrastructure behind him to at least give me SOME peace of mind.

            Trump’s choices are citing Bears as national problems. Holy fuck.

          • Waffle

            Dreamslayer, i completely agree about the DEGREES. At the same time it’s far fetched to say that Trump himself conspired with the Russians. That’s millennial shit right there.

            People have an issue with the Clinton’s because of the hypocrisy of who they are. Bill did a decent job and the tech boom happened at the same time so that’s like being an NFL quarterback when the league changes the rules to favor the O.

            Obama killed like a motherfucker because that’s what you have to do when you’re up against the lunacy that is radical islam. Ignoring it will only let it grow unchecked, fighting it will only keep it going but at diminished strength so bomb the fuck away but try hard not to miss.

            It’s when people throw out comments like “of course a SEAL got killed on a raid that Trump gave the greenlight for” or crazy ultra left or ultra right internet comments that actually spill over into real life which you know they fucking do.

            The other day it was cold after being warm and someone proceeded to bring up global warming and how it was a fucking left wing hoax. It was all I could do not to kick his knee out from behind while in line for lunch……because it’s just a dumb fucking comment and deserves to be called out. I called him out but did not kick out his knee.

            When I hear those fucking types of comments i go fucking crazy.

  • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

    Here’s the theme for Trump’s new show, to follow Arnie’s Sad Apprentice. NBC ate it up!

    https://youtu.be/g1cBK3kF2bs?t=6

    https://static01.nyt.com/images/2007/10/14/weekinreview/14preston.600.jpg

    can’t wait!

    • willbest

      You know Trump is still an executive produce on the Apprentice and him picking a fight with Arnold is about helping the show right?

      • Zap Rowsdower (GP)
        • MB30SD

          GEEENIIIUSS!!!!

          The president of the fucking free world taking time out of his schedule to help a reality show!

          Wow! Amazing sense of priories and focus!!! Thank god I voted for him, he IS a genius GP, he is he is.

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            Next up: Hamlet!!!!!!
            ACTING!!!!!!

          • MB30SD

            GENIUS!!!

          • willbest

            How much time out of his day do you think any one activity takes him? Including the viagra induced romp with the hottest first lady evah

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            he’s banging Jackie’s corpse?

            no wonder he has syphillis

            https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/jfk-0-435.jpg?w=600&h=600

          • MB30SD

            foreeeeever. He’s a fat dumpy fuck.

          • It’s kind of hard to have sex with a woman when you’re in DC and she refuses to leave NY to be by your side, no?

          • willbest

            Aren’t they at the country club every weekend?

          • Mail-order-bride russian fine print is a mothafucka

          • Nice to know Trump is repaying his fellow billionaire moguls for their rustbelt hardships!

          • willbest

            A lot of working class jobs rounding up brown people and shipping them out to Mexico would be available right now if it wasn’t for the 9th circuit. Haven’t you been following GP’s posts?

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            Just gotta perfect that takedown

            https://youtu.be/g3-G31SUjpU?t=115

            wrap the legs man!

          • MB30SD

            I have an honest question for you (and Al).

            You’re obviously both really smart guys. How can you watch the presser yesterday (well, it was my yesterday) and still support that fucking absurdity?! How?!

            It boggles my mind. All I could think was, holy shit, I get to see an impeachment! I really am going to get to see one.

            South Africans think we’re a fucking joke will. A fucking joke… do you know who south africa’s president is dude????

            Google it… and they’ve been telling me for two weeks that WE’RE fucked!!!!

          • willbest

            The first thing Obama did when he was President was tuck his balls between his legs and then fly around the middle east apologizing for god knows what followed by the most comprehensive peace time bombing campaign the world has ever seen. Maybe it was a pre-apology tour, “I am sorry, but I gots to drop a lotta bombs on you”. The President before him proved to the world that Saudi Arabia funded terrorist to attack us and trained them in Afghanistan and proceeded to blow the shit out of Afghanistan (very sensible) and Iraq (huh?) because Saddam had been violating surrender terms for the last 12 years.

            And you think Trump’s rants and tweets are what brings us disgrace? Come off it.

            And South Africa? Who is trying to get in there? If the US is so fucked why do we still have millions of people trying to get in. If the US were so fucked we wouldn’t need to deport anybody they would leave.

          • MB30SD

            I don’t give a fuck about Obama… and you’re fucking delusional dude. smfh

          • willbest

            Then why give a fuck about Trump? Who is he killing?

            I don’t get why the left wants to compare Trump to some ideal president than say the last 2 real ones. And every time I point out that the last one or the last two or three or four or six have done the exact same thing, or had the exact same problems I get met with dismissive nonsense.

            He clearly bothers you. Fine. But he doesn’t affect your day to day, so why pay attention? You don’t think all the prior presidents were picking winners and loser among Americans… Oops I did it again. Trumps supposed to be perfect and do everything right. Otherwise he is a failure.

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            since MB just visited South Africa around the time that Trump tried to slam the airports shut and do “extreme vetting”, I’d say he does affect his day-to-day.

            facts suck, huh?

          • willbest

            I didn’t realize MB was merely a green card holder flying into the US through 1 of 7 countries on his way to South Africa during the 18 hours window where that was a problem.

            facts suck, huh?

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            oh, he’s also an owner of a company in Cali that used H1B VISAs for staff.

            So, that too.

            I meant to ask you: Why did Trump not slam the door on countries where he had hotels?

          • willbest

            You don’t like the fact that those were the 7 countries already part of some enhanced vetting program?

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            In December 2015, President Obama signed into law a measure placing limited restrictions on certain travelers who had visited Iran, Iraq, Sudan, or Syria on or after March 1, 2011. Two months later, the Obama administration added Libya, Somalia, and Yemen to the list, in what it called an effort to address “the growing threat from foreign terrorist fighters.”
            The restrictions specifically limited what is known as visa-waiver travel by those who had visited one of the seven countries within the specified time period. People who previously could have entered the United States without a visa were instead required to apply for one if they had traveled to one of the seven countries.

            Dual citizens of visa-waiver countries and Iran, Iraq, Sudan, or Syria could no longer travel to the U.S. without a visa. Dual citizens of Libya, Somalia, and Yemen could, however, still use the visa-waiver program if they hadn’t traveled to any of the seven countries after March 2011.

            Trump’s order is much broader. It bans all citizens from those seven countries from entering the U.S. and leaves green card holders subject to being rescreened after visiting those countries.

            So my question is – if it is so much broader, why not throw the Pakis in there and the nations the 9/11 hijackers actually came from?

          • willbest

            If it were well thought out, they wouldn’t have included green card holders, the EO would have been cleaner, and the rollout smoother. It was a splash play and that backfired.

            He fucked up. What more do you want me to say? I totally should have gone with cankles because this president made a mistake? Pass.

            How about you wait for what starts happening when his Sec DHS and AG have been on the job more than a couple days.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Because Saudi owns a significant chunk of America?

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Aha! So that’s why Obama licked the Kings ring finger.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Jess, the gazelle has more freedom than man, until the lion catches up with it.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I live on one of those visas, and have to prove every three months that I’m entitled to it. Being an alien sucks.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            My brother lives in South Africa and yes, they’re proper facked over there.

          • SC Dave

            Forget it will, they are sheeple.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Dave, the whole reason politics has taken the road it’s on is to keep the general public at odds with each other rather than reject it all. At the end of the day, all people want is a better life because the ones most people have are tenuous at best. I used to buy into the notion that there was a group of politicians I could somewhat trust to protect my interests and or values. Sadly, I was wrong. The only one that can do that with the most effectiveness is the indidual that is willing to go out and make a better life for themselves. In this country, thats still possible and that’s good enough for me.

          • SC Dave

            The first clause of that statement makes your political opinions permanently laughable.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Being 20 Trillion in the hole – is by its very definition – fucked, Will. And when every dollar used by the government comes with interest attached to it in a hundred-year-old ponzi scheme … that shit isn’t going away. The Zenith of the empire was the Seventies, but the train is headed downhill now, pulled by the cost of all those standing armies that provide national security for other nations at absolutely no charge.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Oh they’ll get paid Irish, they’ll get paid. See “who was napoleon for a thousand please Alex?”.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Trump is a Trojan horse. Trust me on this.

          • “Trump is a Trojan horse. Trust me on this.”

            For Russia?

            For Pence?

            For Bannon?

            For Will’s sense of self?

          • willbest

            Its my fever dream and 325 million people have to live in it!

          • For the Clintons.

            Ohhhh the irony

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Think of the situation in terms of a rider that continually changes horses until he arrives at his destination. We may never know.

            It’s a brilliant strateegery.

          • BearDown100393

            Trestman of POTUS

          • AlbertInTucson

            I respectfully refuse to engage.

            Nobody is going convince anybody on either side of the political spectrum.

          • MB30SD

            Fair enough

          • Irish Sweetness

            I use facebook to log into things. I joined so I could contact my old American Football coach. What I noticed from the little time I spent looking up people I knew, was how political they had become, a far cry from how they were when younger. People’s posts are so often political, and people’s opinions of other people are directly related to their political opinions. It’s sad. To hate someone because their point of view is different to yours is just pathetic. We’re all wrong.

            The most recent ‘idea’ of the universe I’ve heard that was new to me was shared by an academic I used to work with, and randomly bumped into him whilst buying green at a bar. Vipisana meditation. Outside the universe is a projector. We are the projection. Above each of our heads is a door to the other side. We cannot open that door from this side. The idea is that we realize what we are and we get to go through the door, which is then opened for us, and we go over to the realm of the projectionist.

            And there we all are using religion and politics to hate on people and reinforce our opinion’s and self-validate. We become Bill Maher on TV shouting at someone telling them they’re wrong.

            Politicians are all suckers of Satan’s cock, and they sell your souls to him afterwards … as he wipes himself on his Pats’ T-shirt.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I remember back when the rest of the world that that SA was pretty much Munich in the 30s. Swings and roundabouts. Now it’s the USA. The world isn’t afraid of ISIS, they’re afraid of the USA.

          • MB30SD

            That’s a bit silly, but point taken.

            They’re not afraid of us as much as sorry we’re so fucking dumb

          • Damn shame France and Poland so far away. That would put a lot of young americans to work too.

          • MB30SD

            nice of him right?

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog Romo healthy is great. Chandler heathy is Chandler.”

    Romo would be a fine IF we were ready to contend for a title next year. But we probably aren’t. Hence, he’s a much better win-now proposition for the likes of HOU or DEN, albeit a nerve-inducing one given his age and injuries.

    • willbest

      exactly. Romo is a 1 year rental for a team with an elite defense that needs to gamble on a QB to get the offense respectable.

      • SC Dave

        Hell, maybe he’ll even last 3 or 4 then. Peyton did with a broken neck, after all.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Which is already what we have with Cutty, who is not as old, banged up, and he knows our offense.

        • CanadaBear

          The problem is he is almost as banged up, is almost as old and even though he knows the offense he will be a turnover machine until he gets knocked out for a few more weeks. He had 1 good game last year.

    • Romo’s going to the Donks or Texans.
      99% chance according to predictalotor.

      Not even entertaining that option.

      Foxy will want his vet QB though since he’s one hard dump away from retiring (forcably or not), but that vet QB will either be Hoyer, or Jimmy G or Tyrod (if available).

      • AlbertInTucson

        Looking more and more like Jerra is going to have to bite the bullet, cut his latest “favorite son” and eat the salary cap hit.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Got the vet. Not worth trading him. Only question is whether or not, and how high the QB is drafted.

  • MB30SD
    • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

      stick with the 812.

      Man the 812 is borrowing gracefully from the old 575

      https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fd/Ferrari_575M_Maranello.jpg

    • Sactowns#1

      You make it back from the bush?

      • MB30SD

        leaving cape town tomorrow my maings

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Go to joburg you big pussy.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      How was your trip to Africa? Hope you didn’t catch Ebola.

      • MB30SD

        Just the clap

        • Irish Sweetness

          And over there .. the ‘Clap’ means the auld hand-grenades !!

  • willbest

    Kyle Schwarber and Kyle Long seem like too giant friendly dogs

    http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/March-2017/Why-We-Love-Chicago/Kyle-Schwarber/

    Maybe its something in the name. Chicago GM’s should make it a point to draft Kyles.

    • BearDown100393

      Kyle Fuller

      • willbest

        White Kyles?

    • BearDown100393

      Kyle Orton

      • willbest

        Would have brought it home in 2010.

        • MB30SD

          2006

          • willbest

            Then too. See if we would have just trusted Kyle we would have 3 lombardi trophies

          • MB30SD

            At least one.

            A big reason I hate lovie. Buffoon

    • BearDown100393

      Kyle Hendricks

    • SC Dave
      • Irish Sweetness

        The Spirit of Christmas. I was there. Converted my office to SP. Man, that wasn’t yesterday.

  • SC Dave

    It kills me that exposing the truth of the abject corruption of the DNC has been rebranded as some ludicrous conspiracy theory.

    So ahead and FUCKING IGNORE the CONTENT of the emails. Which is *irrefutable* evidence of near-treasonous, ACTUAL manipulation of the election.

    You have met their objectives.

    • BearDown100393

      So should Alshon be tagged or cut?

      • MB30SD

        Hahahaha

      • SC Dave

        I’m with Data… try to sign him, even if you have to overpay (a little).

      • Irish Sweetness

        Cutting him is insane. I don’t like my aston anymore. I won’t sell it, I’ll just burn it out.

    • the contents are shitty, but there are no laws against what they were doing (correct me if i’m wrong on this.) there are laws against conspiring with russian intelligence.

      the conspiracy is over who hacked it and why. and if they hacked the dnc, it’s fair to assume they also hacked the rnc. but why haven’t they released those? and what hoops will leaders jump through to ensure they’re never released?

      we spent the last 8 years listening to your side’s conspiracy theories. turnabout is fair play, my friend. 😉

      • willbest

        I don’t know about the DNC, but they got Podesta’s e-mail through routine phishing and the IT support when Podesta asked about it told him it was legit. So he gave it away. Its easy to see how that wasn’t repeated.

        There were also stories that the RNC uses better data security, which sounds reasonable if you ever listen to Conservative radio. Every ad on the station is about how to protect yourself from the other. We a paranoid bunch.

        But then there is also this going on.

        http://observer.com/2017/02/imran-awan-democrat-debbie-wasserman-schultz-criminal-investigation/

        Lastly, despite the mess the GOP was in we never hit civil war levels. It wouldn’t surprise me if a Bernie or bust DNC staffer released them.

        • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

          Cucks and Snowflakes suck at ITSEC.

        • BerwynBomber

          Priebus is a moron but I’ll give the RNC credit in that their heads are usually full-time people. The DNC often gives their chairmanship to some congressman/woman who moonlights it.

          Last full time DNC chair/head was Howard Dean. And by no coincidence that was the last time the Dems did well in mid-terms.

          P.S. there are very few jobs in the world that are done better part-timing.

          • Cormonster

            Say what you will about Priebus, but the guy is a true believer, a hard worker and relentless. He deserves a lot of the credit for the Republicans decimating the Democrats the last 6 years in elections.

            I went to Junior High and High School with him. Even in 7th grade he was constantly pushing the virtues of Republicanism. He ran for Class President in both jr and high school and lost. He ran for state offices in SE Wisconsin several times and lost every time. But the dude just never gives up.

          • willbest

            Rumor mill coming out is he is not long for the job of Chief of Staff.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I’d worry about anyone running for student office … when you want power at that age instead of living life … it’s a statement of intent. You intend to sit by the dark lord in the seventh layer of hell.

          • MB30SD

            Yikes, and here I was thinking dude’s just tryna get into a good college while being white

        • The Podesta thing is a real head scratcher. Use some common sense, people. If it seems fishy and you have to ask, “should i click this?” DON’T CLICK IT.

          Those ads on conservative radio are there because, like you said, you’re a paranoid bunch, so you’ll buy things like Glenn Beck’s Nuclear Bunker Meatballs in a Can. Crazy loons!

          I think the reason the GOP never hit the civil war levels is because Russia stepped in early. Said, “Hey, Cruz, check out these emails we have of yours. Drop out now or the whole world will learn that your daddy really DID kill JFK.” So of course he dropped out with months still to go in the primaries.

          As far as Wasserman, I offer no defense. She’s awful. And as much as I don’t want to believe the theory that Kaine stepped down as DNC head for her because he was promised the VP slot for Clinton, I can’t silence my inner Alex Jones who shouts that it’s true.

    • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

      Are you talking about pizzagate?

      • willbest

        That Podesta. The DNC hack proved that the MSM and the Clinton campaign colluded to rig the primaries against Sanders and for Trump.

        • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

          The DNC brought Trump upon itself. That I have always agreed with.

          Wasserman-Schultz and the creepo Clintons and that asswipe Podesta trying to armchair general all of it.

          Fucking Assange, man that guy slow dripped the fucking Clintons. Every day, every week, drip drip drip – there it was, some more Podesta shit talking.

          And the MSM, always blamed for being liberal bias, unable to contain the need to follow the raw meat. Unable to step away from the 24h news cycle. It was pathetic even as we meta-commented exactly what was happening.

          The US got PLAYED.

          • willbest

            Or saved. The Clintons conclusively don’t believe in democracy.

          • BerwynBomber

            What an inane comment.

          • MB30SD

            Wanna see my shocked face?

          • Neither do u mr.vote per tax bracket!

          • willbest

            You don’t see me in charge of anything or trying to get there. And I said it is better than the system we have now. Not that I would be pushing for it at the next constitutional convention

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Assange’s attorney is being provided to him by the Rothschilds. No more need be said.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        I prefer New York Pizza. Wait, I thought we had that discussion already.

        • willbest

          Don’t start this again.

        • MB30SD

          Who in their right Fucking mind doesn’t?!?!

          • Cormonster

            Are you posting on a libertarian blog that I go to on occasion? There was a pizza discussion and one guy said Chicago style is a casserole and anyone who considers it to be pizza is so wrong that you can safely ignore whatever else they might say, on any subject.

          • MB30SD

            Hahaha… My twin!!!

            Did you see the Wikipedia definition of casserole?! It describes deep dish to a T. Hilarious.

          • Cormonster

            Yes I did, and yes it does. I still like Italian casserole, but only on rare occasions. Too much dough for me. I much prefer a thin, crisp, flaky crust that can still hold lots of toppings and cheese.

          • MB30SD

            yeeeeeeeess!

  • Huge Bears Penis

    it has been way too political on the blog lately, let’s all sit back, relax and enjoy some BOOBS!

    http://boobsarethegreatest.tumblr.com/

    • willbest

      What are people’s thoughts on pierced nipples? I am indifferent to them.

      • Tits or GTFO

        To me, they indicate a woman who wants a lot of attention on her nipples, and who isn’t afraid to ask for it.

      • They’re more promiscuous, and I don’t care what they say. My experience. And on their clit, even more so.

        They’re kinda hot to look at, but feeling wise, I’d rather lick/bite a nip than a metal stud.

        One pierced one free maybe best of both worlds, I guess.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Piercing.

        Nyet.

        Likewise “body art”, unless you are a Marine or a Sailor.

        • MB30SD

          You’re old AL, so this forgiven. Haha

          • CanadaBear

            Al and I are close in age. I’ve got old tattoos.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Not a fan, or of tats. Or anything fake, including tits.

        • MB30SD

          Siiigh

  • BuddhaJoe

    Ugh Trumpitis has infected da blog too. Can’t escape this shit anywhere. Back to Pornhub I guess.

    • BearDown100393

      What does Pornhub have to say about Alshon? Will he be tagged or cut?

      • BuddhaJoe

        I tried a search and all I got was tag teaming. Pretty sure it wasn’t him either.

        • SC Dave

          Well, thanks for looking.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      i tried to distract with boobs. not sure if it helped

      • MB30SD

        You’re not working hard enough

        See what I did there

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    • It’s the offseason. This is nothing new.

      One July I think we debated economic policy for about 3 threads straight.

      Bust out the charts!

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Surprisingly the civil discord has been quite civilized wouldn’t you say?

        • I find it enlightening. Like, SC and I can agree that Cargo should be flushed along with Fox’s fiber-rich turd, but are pretty much diametrically opposed politically, whereas he and Waffle probably agree in that sphere.

          Odd mix-and-matches throughout.

          I try not to name call unless someone does so first. Kinda childish, esp on a football blog.

          As much as I like many of you, you’re all practically strangers who can be serial killers or love Rob Schnieder movies.

          But it is relatively civil here compared to other threads which devolve into tribal baboon shit slinging rather quickly.

          • willbest

            To clarify you mean actual Rob Schnieder movies. Not like Down Periscope or The Waterboy.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            I love Schnieder movies. Deuce Bigalow!

          • Heresy!

          • Irish Sweetness

            Deuce was pretty good.

        • we all certainly hate each other a lot less than the left/right hates each other on the general internet. so there’s that.

          • willbest

            That is because we have found a common hatred of the Packers. If only the US could unite in their hatred of something… what would trigger something like that… oh shit, I am starting to sound like Trac

          • Blame Canada!

          • willbest
          • CanadaBear

            And that bitch Anne Murray, too!

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            You know it’s true will. Just imagine what this country could achieve if it collectively hated marzipan.

          • MB30SD

            Dude, that shit is fucking evil.

            My grandma liked it. Fucking almond paste… Seriously?!?!?!

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Hahaha. Yeah man, thankfully my grans never shared her stashe after I threw up the first time she gave me some. Yee-uck!

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Wonderful phraseology evan.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I believe that’s just NUMBNESS to the issues setting in.

            Being a Bear fan is good preparation.

            6 playoff appearances in the last 23 or 24 years is numbing.

          • MB30SD

            Sigh

          • MB30SD

            Speak for yourself dick

    • SC Dave

      You mean it’s not on pornhub yet?

  • Bringing STP and news skepticism together:

    “Does anyone know how the story really goes/ or do we all just hum along?”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR4eCGz5CZQ

  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    Enjoy your last night my man.

  • SC Dave
    • willbest

      What do they say “No PR is bad PR?”

    • if only they would have bought her stuff when it was still in stores, maybe the stores wouldn’t have pulled the lines.

      also. which do you think is better for business? her $35 perfume selling on amazon, or her $200 shoes and however many hundred dollar dresses selling in department stores?

      • willbest

        But you just said they weren’t selling in the stores…. I so confused.

        • “selling” as in “it’s there on the shelves to be bought.”

          as in “they’re still selling rex grossman jerseys on clearance at clark street sports, even though they haven’t sold one since 2007.”

          i hope that clears it up.

          • willbest

            It doesn’t. You claimed nobody was buying. So she wasn’t making money on the $200 dresses anyway. But on amazon people are buying the perfume.

            And then more generally it depends on what the royalty rate is between the items.

            Although I would take some issue with the not selling in the store. I know that pale pink dress she wore to the RNC sold out

    • MB30SD

      I would pummel that chicks cervix

  • willbest

    So apparently there was a thing between Beyonce and Adele? Which side are we supposed to come down on? Though I don’t think it will come close to the Tay Tay and Katy rivalry.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      No. Just No. step away from your keyboard.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Hahaha. It’s the off season, let the games continue.

        • Huge Bears Penis

          I expect things to devolve in the off season but I think we need to draw the line somewhere.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Lol

          • Huge Bears Penis

            It doesn’t surprise me that it was will that found that line and tried to cross it.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Evidently him and Canada held hands and crossed the sidewalk together.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            CB is old and Canadian so can’t blame him much. will took advantage.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Lol

          • MB30SD

            Damn, that was cold

          • CanadaBear

            I’m sure some people on the blog could take advantage of me but probably not wil.

          • CanadaBear

            Not likely but thanks for thinking of me.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Hahaha. You’re welcome Canada.

      • MB30SD

        So much this

    • CanadaBear

      Adele spent about 2 minutes babbling to Beyonce at the Grammy’s carrying on about how great Beyonce is. It seemed sincere but she also won everything in sight.

      • SC Dave

        I agree with Carlos.

        • CanadaBear

          Me too!

  • MB30SD

    So next year….

    Suck for cuck?

  • Irish Sweetness

    Somebody reads DaBlog :

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000786482/article/aj-mccarron-a-better-trade-target-than-garoppolo

    If draft Pedigree has anything to do with a QB’s value, then E.J Manuel was an overall 4th pick and first QB taken wasn’t he? I think 3M signs him. He goes to #3 on the roster, maybe #2 behind Cutty, depending on who you draft.

    How about them apples?

    1. Cutty

    2. Draftee/E.J Manuel

    3. Draftee/E.J Manuel

    Carry three QBs.

    • MB30SD

      Dude, cutler is gooooonneee. And doooonnnn’t caaaaaaaare!

      Here it is:

      1. HOYER THE DESTROYER
      2. Barkley
      3. Someone we draft in the 3rd or 4th (myhomies or perryman, or some such shit)

      Super bowl. BOOM!

      Right HBP? RIGHT?!?!

      • Huge Bears Penis

        can you make the Super Bowl with only 5 wins?

        • willbest

          You would need 8 wins to make the SB, but I am pretty sure you could theoretically make the playoffs with 5 wins

      • Irish Sweetness

        People are assuming he’s gone, when it doesn’t really make any sense to get rid of him.

        • BerwynBomber

          It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to keep him, either. That’s the rub.

          • willbest

            Its a bit surreal in that respects. There isn’t a really good reason to get rid of him (unless you trade for Tyrod or G) and there isn’t a good reason to keep him.

            Deadspin’s why your team sucks “You will never be rid of him” line seems on point.

          • BerwynBomber

            Agreed. And that has always been the maddening thing with Cutler: he’s not bad enough to easily discard; he’s not good enough to easily embrace.

          • CanadaBear

            If they keep him and they suck again this year both Pace and Fox could go. If they go in another direction Pace at least has a chance to stay.

          • willbest

            I think the only way Pace gets axed is if somebody pays the Pats for G and he is a bona fide starter. I am convinced Pace was told to take Fox, and therefore I think Pace will get to hire his HC.

            His 2015 draft turned out to be poop, but his 2016 looks like a home run. Nobody saw Dak, not even the Cowboys who passed on him 3 times. Outside of him, there hasn’t been a home run QB option available to Pace.

          • CanadaBear

            If they stick with Cutler and repeat another losing campaign, Pace would have to be on thin ice. There’s no reason to bring Cutler back. Why subject themselves to another Groundhog Day? You know what you are going to get with Cutler and it’s not enough.

          • willbest

            Are we, like Houston, 1 competent QB away from going deep in the playoffs?

            Is the QB we hope will eventually become that QB be available to us for the 2017?

            Who gives you a greater chance to compete? Cutler or Hoyer? Cutler or Glennon? Cutler or Foles? (I am deliberately picking FA’s because its a money to money comparison).

            What can you move Cutler for? A conditional 4th? Is that plus Hoyer better for your team?

            I don’t know. I would have to know when Jay injured his finger, whether or not they lied about the extent of the injury, and how his rehab was coming.

          • BerwynBomber

            Oh, I was ready to move on from him when Emery offered him his “elite QB” contract. Or at best franchise him for year and then lowball him the next.

            Cutler is QB no-man’s land. An aging, average QB who is not going to be a ton better, if at all, than an adequate replacement.

            I would rather roll the dice on an inexpensive bridge and a rookie.

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          What do you do with your 12 yr old that regularly shits the bed?

          • Huge Bears Penis

            Cork???

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Seriously consider boarding school.

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  • Irish Sweetness

    Mayock says he loves this guy in the draft more than anyone. Safety Buddha Baker.
    We could grab Allen or Lattimore, then Buddha.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoXL6gsuFNs

    Brings the wood, sacks the QB, makes great reads downfield … he’s perfect.

    • Bender McLugh

      What round is he projected

  • Irish Sweetness

    S Obi Melifonwu – great reads and instincts.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoLixnW-KiY

    • Bender McLugh

      Excellent closing speed when he is near the receiver, seems more CB to me. 6’2?

  • willbest

    Jeff needs alcohol stat. He is somehow trying to blame the 06 SB loss on a D that held the opponent to 14 points

    • Johnnywad

      That loss is squarely on Lovie Smith for deciding to take the ball out of Thomas Jones’ hands and put it in Rex Grossman’s in the second half.

      • willbest

        I am fine with that. I am fan with blaming Grossman for sucking. I am not okay blaming a Defense that gave up 14 points. And certainly not when your ST covered half that deficit for your offense.

        • Johnnywad

          All correct. Remember five games into that season Grossman was being mentioned on the fringes of the MVP conversation? Good times.

          • beninnorcal

            Those were exciting times. Especially that first game at Green Bay. I watched it at a bar in Napa that’s no longer around.
            There were fudgie fans there, it was classic.

      • And on the defensive coaching for getting scared after the blown coverage in the 1st quarter and sitting back after that. They started out attacking Peyton and taking away short stuff to make him go deep, which was the perfect approach in a torrential downpour.

        Peyton threw the ball deep 2x. The first was a misfire that was intercepted. The 2nd was a misfire that was a TD because the S blew the coverage and nobody was within 20 yards of the receiver.

        Keep forcing those deep throws to move the ball and Bears win in a rout. Instead they got scared by the deep TD, backed off, and let Peyton pick them apart underneath.

        • Waffle

          I spoke with a business partner of Rivera years later. It was Lovie that played the bitch in that game and neutered Ron…..hence the falling out and all of the shit that happened after.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            And you just now decide to share? Ftlom!

          • Huge Bears Penis

            I thought that it was common knowledge. Pretty sure Rivera said it shortly after he was fired.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            We all knew about the fallout but this is juicy stuff. Tell us more yonny?

          • Yeah, given what we know about Lovie and his overly conservative nature, that doesn’t surprise me.

            I wanted Lovie fired after the 2008 season, when they went 9-7 but he directly cost them 3 wins with stupid late-game decisions. I still wonder what might have happened from 2010-12 if they had a better in-game coach, but then again maybe the D/ST wouldn’t have been as good.

          • MB30SD

            I knew I loved you for a reason

          • MB30SD

            Wanna see my shocked face?

        • Johnnywad

          Al Afalava. A poor man’s Chris Conte.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Let us not forget Daniele Manning, the great athlete.

          • AlbertInTucson

            1 “A” short of the record holder, Rashaan Salaam.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Bring me the head of Ron Turner.

        • Bender McLugh

          Ugh, thanks

      • Bender McLugh

        Stop

        • Johnnywad

          Go.

          • Bender McLugh

            Just painful to relive

          • Johnnywad

            Sucks. Game was there. Would have been tough but winnable.

      • MB30SD

        100….%

    • willbest

      So Jeff’s continued ranting, made me go back and look at the play-by-play because it seemed no way he our realities squared. I was misremembering the game a bit. I had thought with 5 turnovers (4 on the offense) the O had spotted Indy at least 13 points. Turns out the O only directly spotted 7 points. Regardless the loss was still squarely on the offense that couldn’t hold onto the ball longer than 22 minutes. Which is really Fucking impressive when you consider the offense had 13 possessions.

    • Johnnywad

      Man. Still thinking about that. The Bears had to cover Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison with Peyton Manning throwing the football. Hard to do that AND stop the run AND keep the game close. But they did.

  • willbest

    Here you go MB. Scott Adams tells you whats wrong with you.

    http://blog.dilbert.com/post/157358914491/imaginary-news

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      I’ll tell you what’s imaginary, it’s that Congress is going to curtail their slush funds of endless spending. They’re like crack whore’s laying in their beds with a needle sticking out of their arms watching the rain pour down outside their windows.

    • So he pulls the Huffington Post as his example instead of the mainstream “fake news” sites Trump always blasts. Then uses that to rope together all mainstream media, when the main sites reported on it much more reasonably. Classic bait and switch example using one outlier example and then drawing grand conclusions from it. People love using that approach to skew the actual story when they know the full data set goes against their viewpoint (aka comparing global temperatures to one outlier El Nino year in the 90s to say there’s no global warming).

      Even so, might I propose that Trump’s 77 minute press conference was both a disaster (I’d say more train wreck than meltdown) and nothing more than his usual shenanigans? He sounds like a complete buffoon every time he opens his mouth and starts spewing nonsense. This was just a longer time for him to make a fool out of himself than usual.

      Of course, the press conference (along with some typically incendiary and absurd Tweets) achieved its goal of getting people to focus on how ridiculous our president is and stop talking about the fact that there’s a whole lot of smoke billowing about concerning ties between his people (and him) and Russia.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Global warming? Wow, if that’s the case, as soon as it gets warm enough I’m moving to the Antarctica.

        • willbest

          I ignored that part because I didn’t want to talk about religion and politics at the same time.

        • Bender McLugh

          UP Michigan will be prime real estate, Maine too

          • willbest

            I am looking for some Mississippi land in case of the day after tomorrow scenario.

      • willbest

        You lost me at Trump conspiracy. My main problem with it is the pay to play going on at the Clinton foundation with foreign interests. Which nobody around here (except SC and Trac, and probably Al) found objectionable during the campaign.

        So you don’t really care about pay to play. You are just firing at your enemy. And if Trump is your enemy, then you are reaffirming Scott Adam’s take of two realities, not discrediting it.

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          They’re all buffoons will. I know eye must sound like a broken record but I’m actually an equal opportunity offender when it comes to politics.

          • willbest

            JWood obviously doesn’t think Trump is a buffoon. He thinks Trump is exceptionally smart and very dangerous. JWood believes Trump is Putins pawn, and has the ability to distract the American people by turning them on the “free” press until its too late and the plan is hatched. Okay, I added that last part, but it naturally flows from what Wood actually said.

          • I don’t think Trump is all that smart, but I do think he’s pretty media savvy. I think the guy who’s actually smart and dangerous is Steve Bannon.

        • BerwynBomber

          Russia/Trump is potentially much, much larger than pay-to-play.

          • willbest

            So is Obama being born in Kenya.

          • Bender McLugh

            lol

        • Bender McLugh

          Come on Will, why in thee fuck are you defending this man?

          • willbest

            Seems an odd question to ask a person that has demonstrated loyalty to the Bears over the last 4 seasons

        • Every politician does pay to play. Some hide it better than others, but they all do it.

          My biggest issue with Trump, besides the fact that he seems to have no clue what he’s doing, is Steve Bannon. That man is a racist nutjob, yet he seems to have more influence over our president than anybody else.

          Well, that and the fact that he has massive business conflicts of interest that seem to be directing many of his policies, but we don’t know for sure because he won’t release his taxes. This is a problem to some extent with pretty much all politicians, but Trump is taking it to a whole new level due to the breadth of his business empire.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            People were once their own champions. What the hell happened? Where did it all go wrong? When did it all go wrong?

            If you put your hand into a badgers den, you lose your hand. Hell, even a rabbit will tear your ass up is she’s got bunnies in her den and you stick your hand inside. I just can’t bring myself to defend any of these wolves in sheep’s clothing called politicians. These cats all go to the same parties, theres no difference my man.

          • willbest

            I am sure Rove … excuse me Bannon is a very scary person. But you are wrong on the conflicts of interest.

            What happens to the Trump brand if he is a shit president? What happens to the Trump brand if he is the next Ronaldus Maximus? We have hired a guy that stands to lose or win bigly depending on his success. We essentially hired a guy and gave him a stock option in the country. Its genius.

            So what if he has a $100 million invested in Dubai or China or whatever. I know a hundred million is completely insane amounts of money to all normal people but that is 2% of his net worth. Would he rather turn his $100 million in $300 million. Or his $3 billion in US based assets into $6 billion? Its a no brainer.

            That doesn’t mean he is going to succeed, but it does mean he is at least going to put in the effort.

          • But what defines a shit president?

            By pretty much any measure I can think of , George W. Bush was a shit president. Regardless of whether you think the Iraq war was justified or not, he handled it terribly by putting the inexperienced and incompetent Rumsfeld in charge, which led to many more people-both Americans and Iraqis-dying than should have been necessary. The economy also went into the absolute shitter while he was President-which was not really his fault, as the bad loaning policies that led to that downfall originated under Clinton-but he did absolutely nothing to help.

            And yet nearly half of America will still insist he was the best president in the last 25 years simply because he was the only Republican who served in that span.

            Trump has the same effect. And who knows what any of his actions will do to his brand globally, but we’re already seeing him leveraging his presidential power into favorable business deals both in America and abroad.

            I also think a big danger of Trump is this whole “fake news” thing. There are people-probably about 1/3 of America-who will believe any lie that comes out of Trump’s mouth over the reporting of every mainstream media source. That’s dangerous and frightening.

          • willbest

            Bush went hermit after he left office. Not that he should have commented on Obama. No former president should do that shit, but the guy went full Howard Hughes. His presidency did not end well for him. Imagine if he were trying to sell hotel rooms in vegas or condos, or Bush wine or Bush steak, or Bush country club membership.

            And no Bush didn’t start the 2008 meltdown. The laws for that were passed during Carter and cut loose during Clinton. But he sure as shit ran on the bubble benefits of them in 2004. So he absolutely owns it. I get a lot of pushback from “my side” on that at reunions and whatnot, but there is accountability. Its pretty easy to conclude that he was worse than Clinton.

            The jury is still out on the Obama Presidency. He absolutely turned the FedGov on his enemies, and then there is the starting 4 new wars and continuing the middle east instability plan laid out by his predecessor. He didn’t start it, but like Bush he absolutely owns it now.

            On the domestic front, eight years of ZIRP has absolutely decimated pension returns and created a massive debt bomb. The purpose of which was to allow Obama to run trillion dollar annual deficits while paying token interest rates. But when it goes its going to make the 2008 meltdown look like a soft Christmas season.

            If Trump gets a second term he will take the fall for it, though unlike Bush and the housing bubble and Obama in the middle east, I can’t conceive of how anybody would avoid it.

            Trump is absolutely right to call the press out on their bullshit. Last week somebody in one of the places I frequent linked a list of 40 odd false stories or grossly exaggerated stories in the MSM press during the first 3 weeks. That is 2 a day. How the fuck do you manage that unless you are deliberately trying to push a narrative and desperate for anything to take.

            That doesn’t mean you should believe anything coming out of Trump’s mouth. But you sure as shit shouldn’t trust anything anybody else is saying either. Not with that fail rate. Politicians lie. The press lies. As I have said before. You either have to take the time to go to the original source and weigh the evidence yourself, or you have to accept the fact that somebody else is probably manipulating you.

      • Bender McLugh

        Tracey Porter. I learned my lesson coach.

      • Bender McLugh

        For serious.

      • Bender McLugh

        So much this

      • MB30SD

        Thanks for saving me the time and doing it much more eloquently

  • AlbertInTucson

    Just caught most of the documentary ZERO DAYS on SHOWTIME.

    SMH.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Shoulda just watched the trailer, you could have saved a whole Lotta time. Hahaha

  • willbest

    So I pondered it for a couple minutes and figured out how to win the Superbowl with 4 wins.

    If your entire division goes 0-10-6, then you only need 4 wins to hoist the Lombardi Trophy. Although if you want to do it without tie cheesing you need your entire division to go 3-13, for 7 wins.

    I am still thinking you can get a WC with 5 wins (without tie cheesing) but haven’t bothered to do the math on it yet.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      So that’s why every attorney tells his client “it’s a winnable case”.

      Thanks for clarifying.

      • willbest

        They don’t. I have told clients “You are right fucked, lets settle. But you don’t want to make too easy because then they will know something is up.”

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Lol. You’re in the minority then. It’s all about da billing.

          • MB30SD

            Billable. Hours.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Yup. I have had a great corporate attorney for 20 years though. He broke the mold. We were talking one day when I was asking him for some advice on a matter when I was considering some legal advice outside of his field and he told me, “I hate to admit it, most attorneys are only interested in padding their billing, save your money, it’s not neccessary”.

          • MB30SD

            Shocking

    • willbest

      It is mathematically possible for a 4 win team to win the 6th seed even stipulating no games end in a tie, though it takes some impressive SoS shenanigans.

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog No Mike Brown! No Tommie Harris! Interesting how fans eager to make excuses for Urlacher failures. Cutler never given that consideration.”

    Yeah, sure. No excuses for Cutler. Uh-huh. Never heard a one in eight years.

    Btw, you do realize that Cutler and Urlacher are totally different levels of players, right? Cutty’s comp as an ILB would be someone like AJ Hawk.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Definitely. As Bears, there is no comparison. Brian is a ledge. Jimmy was the winning QB.

      Still excited to see what Cutty would do in a healthy year this season.

      • MB30SD

        You’re going to be following the Jets this year huh?

        Nice, I was thinking about Baltimore

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Hey man, just thinking about you. Still en route?

          • MB30SD

            In Dulles. 7 to go… 23hrs down.

            This place Fucking blows. Btw, not sure how you live with all those shitkickers. Some sitting next to me, my god that accent is brutal. No matter how smart you are, you sound like a backwoods cousinfucker.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            You should hear what a dam Yankee sounds like. Hahaha

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            You don’t go back to work until Tuesday right?

          • MB30SD

            We’ll see. I’ll probably work from home tomorrow as much as I can.

      • CanadaBear

        1 good game last year Irish. ONE!

  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    “Grossman was horrible in Super Bowl. But if Bears stop run, they win. They didn’t. They were small in the biggest spot of their lives.” Sur Jeff Hughes

    Ok, I’m not even going to look at the stats of that game but when an offense can’t stay on the field, normally that means the D gets gassed.

    Why is this tripe being twatted? Is Jeff trying to compete with the President or the press? It’s hard to say.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      The Bears had 276 yards of total offense, 2 int’s and 4 fumbles(0 lost). Yup, stumbling and bumbling on O makes for a very tired/ineffective defense.

  • Bender McLugh

    So I think Luke is the last Jedi & Rey will be his padawan and they will destroy the Sith uprising and restore balance to the Force.

    • Bender McLugh

      Luke is Cutler
      Rey is Deshsun Watson (yep)
      They is Logjam’s brilliant offense with AJ, Howard & Co. (Cam M. likely) & the beastly of all beasts of a Team DEF with a refreshed S & CB crew & healthy Trevathan-Freeman

      BEAR DOWN

      • Bender McLugh

        That’s not far fetched.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Which would make Rey the last Jedi … or it could be the plural form of the noun, and they both survive.

      I heard a rumor that Luke might be on the surface of a planet when he brings star destroyers crashing down using the force. It was in some canon story.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Wow, lots of politics on here.

    Pause and consider.

    We’re on a beautiful blue ball whizzing around our sun because of this weird thing called gravity, and we all in turn are whizzing around the center of our galaxy where there lies a super-massive black hole that sucks shit out of existence – except you can’t do that so it has to go somewhere – and we’re all made of atoms in a universe that is moving inexorably towards disorder, where one day it will be cold and bereft of light and empty.

    As Bill Hicks used to say : what’s the point in arguing over which sock puppet is President?

    Here ….

    (passes doobage to Blog and makes Jason Mewes-like movements)

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      I am a soveriegn natural born man and the master of my own destiny.

    • BearDown100393

      The world misses Bill Hicks.

    • BerwynBomber

      “Wow, lots of politics on here.”

      From my limited observation, there is always one DBBer who is in the middle of all political debates on the blog. Hint: he hates the Clintons and usually works that into every third post.

      Then again, Jeff doesn’t set the best example with his political tweets either, even if I often agree with him.

      Ah well, takes a village.

    • Captain Obvious

      Black holes don’t suck shit out of existence. They suck shit into a singularity. It’s all still there.

      Unless you subscribe to the black hole / white hole idea, and that black holes punch a hole through the fabric of space-time to eject matter in a corresponding white hole somewhere.

      Either way, shit doesn’t get sucked out of existence. Except in Green Bay.

  • MB30SD

    Haaaave I got a stooooory about my flight from joburg for you guys. Once I recover from this jetlag I’ll type it out. Kinda funny… Now.

    • MB30SD

      I’ll give you a separate little teaser. I was forced to watch Pacific rim during the flight.

      Yeah, that’s how it went

      • CanadaBear

        I flew back home from Ft Myers Beach yesterday. 3 flights and a 2-hour ferry ride. 17 hours of non-stop fun (or not). No stories, just tired.

        • MB30SD

          Mine was 33 door to door

          • CanadaBear

            Brutal.

          • MB30SD

            You have no idea

  • Big Mike

    I’m being lazy, what ever happened to Khaseem Greene. He was supposed to be a real bargain. But sort of washed out of the league.

    • BearDown100393

      Chiefs

    • CanadaBear

      What made you think of that guy? He and Bostick were both a couple of stiffs.

      • BerwynBomber

        Even Belichick couldn’t make anything of Bostick.

      • Big Mike

        Time of year. I just remember that we thought we had two rookie LBs that were supposed to do something. I could recall Bostic’s “career”, but couldn’t remember Greene being on the field much. I think Bostic got to a second contract, can’t imagine Greene did.

        • BerwynBomber

          Bostic went to the Pats, of course, and last I heard was on DET’s roster but was injured. But I can’t remember if he was a Lion in ’15 or ’16.

    • willbest

      I think Greene was the guy that had his best friend die in his senior year in college and afterwards his heart just wasn’t in football anymore.

  • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

    I watched a little of the 30 for 30 on the XFL.

    Relegated dustbin history fact: Dick Butkus would do things for money. Stupid things.

    Vince mcMahon got him to be one of the guys in the promos who said “the NFL was for pussies, the XFL is where the real hitting will be.”

    • CanadaBear

      In Butkus’ defense, it’s not like he made generational wealth playing back in the day. His acting career was also pretty dreadful. Still my favorite Bear of all time.

      • BerwynBomber

        Wasn’t he a lead actor in a network sitcom at some point? Weird to imagine that these days, though I suppose Peyton or Strahan might have the chops for it.

        • CanadaBear

          Yeah it was really bad but that’s sitcoms. Either they make you laugh or make you cringe. I had to look it up, it was My Two Dad’s. I saw maybe one show. Even though he was my favorite player I wasn’t going to watch that dreck.

          • Waffle

            He was the firm but fair coach on HangTime (saved by the bell set on a basketball team)….I know because I had a crush on actress Daniella Deustcher from that show because I too had a highschool girlfriend who was awesome at basketball and hot as fuuuuuuuck.

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog What “shit” did Bears do when he was in lineup? People talk about the Urlacher era like some golden age. He won 3 playoff games in 13 years.”

    What’s Jeff’s beef with Urlacher? Was it because Lach once said something mildly negative about Cutler after retirement? Does Jeff mis-perceive the Lach spotlight taking away from his hero Peanut? Does the Lach/Samurai comparison trigger his rage?

    A bit baffling …

    • CanadaBear

      Don’t get it either. Lach wasn’t Butkus but he was the best defensive player on the Bears for a few years and he was the one that made the Tampa Two work.

      • BerwynBomber

        I’d argue after Butkus, Lach might be the best D player the Bears ever had. As historical as the ’85 Bears D was, I don’t know if there is a single player on that D I would automatically take over Lach. (And Lach was hands down the second best ILB of his generation after Lewis.)

        I get personally not liking a player as a person (if that what is informing his opinion), but denying their greatness because of that seems silly.

        Anyway, weird …

        • CanadaBear

          Yeah, it’s not like he’s taking away any greatness of other Bears players. No doubt he could be a meathead but so what? It’s not like Ditka is Einstein.

        • Cormonster

          I’d take Hampton any day over Urlacher or any other Bears defender of the last 40 years. Everyone on that D benefited from and was better because of Hampton. He took up double and triple teams and still consistently provided pressure up the middle or stuffed the run.

          • CanadaBear

            If he just wasn’t such a dick.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Urlacher made me proud to be a Bears fan. Cutler? Well, I believe you know my answer to that one.

        • BerwynBomber

          Judging from Jeff’s post, one is not allowed to compare Urlacher to Payton but one is allowed to compare Cutler to Urlacher. (Or heck, maybe it’s Urlacher to Cutler.)
          Anyway, kind of makes me look forward to Jeff’s HoF post on Urlacher. I’ll be disappointed if damning with faint praise is not its overarching theme and at least one incident of Cutler victimhood doesn’t pepper it.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Yup, fake news is evra ware!

    • willbest

      He has been on a 2 day rant against the 06 Bears defense. I have no idea what triggered it.

  • BerwynBomber

    Here’s a slightly off-the-wall hypothetical. Last week Ed Werder of ESPN fame opined that NE wishes to keep JimmyG but will of course listen to offers. The same week Brady came out and said he plans to play until his mid-forties.

    So what if the Pats keep JimmyG and then offer him a big contract heading into ’18 and cut loose Brady? Seems unthinkable if only because of Kraft’s allegiance to the golden boy. But I could definitely see Belichick doing it.

    • willbest

      In 2018 and 2019 Brady is set to make $15 million each season while counting $22 million against the cap.

      How much is Jimmy G worth on the open market. He played 1.75 solid games, but nobody is going to give him Oz money. So where is he at? Fitz got 1 year $12 million. Obviously every team without a top 15 QB is going to roll that dice. Does he get a 3- year $36 mil with $24 million guarantee?

      • BerwynBomber

        Oh, I have no idea what JimmyG is worth. It was more about the idea of jettisoning Brady after next year and rolling with Garappolo.

        Slim chance, but stranger things …

        • willbest

          Worked okay for the Packers. Not so much for the Colts but then their new QB isn’t the problem.

          • BerwynBomber

            It can definitely be a PR issue. Seemed like most Cheeseheads were decidedly pro-Farve rather than pro-Rodgers (or pro-Thompson). I imagine a similar thing would happen in Boston. (And recall that Farve was in full hillbilly diva mode the last couple of years in GB and the masses STILL had his back.)

            Indy seemed like a mixed bag on the PR front. College Luck was seen as a better bet than professional Rodgers, much less professional Grarrapolo.

        • Waffle

          Belichek knows that he will never get rid of Brady unless Kraft is completely onboard. Belichek, Brady and Kraft will all know when it’s time and it ain’t in the near future.

  • willbest

    Found some irony for you Trac or was it Irish? I know somebody around here considers Gates the greatest bioterrorist on the planet.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/17/biological-terrorism-could-kill-people-nuclear-attacks-bill/

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Son of a bitch, he should know.

  • Waffle

    Arrested. Naked. 3rd Time.

    at some point the authorities have to do something right?

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/02/19/stanley-wilson-ii-arrested-while-naked-for-a-third-time/

    • CanadaBear

      Sad story. Doesn’t belong in jail but certainly needs supervision.

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