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Happy St. Patrick’s Day From DBB!

| March 17th, 2017

“The worst thing about some men is

that when they are not drunk they are sober.”

-Yeats


Three weekend thoughts:

  • More I think about the Glennon signing the more I think the Bears have identified their quarterback of the future. Is that quarterback coming by the end of April? I’m not sure. But there is no chance Ryan Pace & Co. evaluated Glennon’s game tape and saw a player capable of leading a franchise for a decade. No. Chance. My guess? The Bears don’t take their guy at 3. They trade back in round one by the end of Thursday night and bring a QB with them.
  • A Tweet from Greg Gabriel Thursday: “Hearing that Bears could indeed have an interest in S. Thomas at #3 but not as a 5. More of a guy they would play all over, both up & down.” Remember, I’ve been saying this on the Twitter for months now. Thomas has way more J.J. Watt in him than Aaron Donald. And I hope he’s not available when Tom Coughlin picks fourth.
  • I used to work at a little arts complex called the Irish Arts Center in NYC and the former head of that place was Jim Sheridan. If you’ve never seen one of Jim Sheridan’s films, you haven’t seen the best of Irish cinema. My Left Foot, The Field, In the Name of the Father, The Boxer. You can’t go wrong with any of them. Instead of puking on the sidewalk, celebrate Ireland with one of these pictures this weekend.

Enjoy a pint of the muck and have a lovely weekend.

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  • Captain Obvious

    Hooray, let’s drink green beer until we puke to celebrate pretending-to-be-Irish day!

    (5 of my 8 great-grandparents were born in Ireland, so the whole St. Patrick’s Day thing pisses me off)

    • willbest

      Just think of it as protected free speech and you will be okay.

    • CanadaBear

      Why would that bother you? My dad’s side is 100% and I’ve seen lots of bad behavior over the years but it never bothered me. You don’t have to be fake Irish to get shitfaced. I just stay as far away from it as possible.

      • Captain Obvious

        It bothers me that people don’t think of it as trading on an ethnic stereotype (at best) or slur (at worst).

        To call back to something else I posted here not long ago, I have seen therapists for PTSD (and other issues). One, when I told her about my Irish background, assumed that I had a family history of alcoholism.

        People don’t realize that 100, 150 years ago how badly you got shit on in this country if you were Irish. My one grandmother was basically an indentured servant from age 8 (because her parents were so poor from coming over on the boat themselves). I’m not saying this is unique to the Irish, or nearly as bad as the history of African slavery or the near-genocide of Native Americans, but I just really wish people wouldn’t dress up in green, get drunk, wear “kiss me I’m Irish,” and treat an ethnic group that was shit on in their homeland (and in the country they fled to) as something fun to play at for a day.

        I wouldn’t get my nose out of joint if people saw the caricature that Irishness is. On Cinco de Mayo (another excuse for white people to get drunk based on someone else’s holiday) at least people don’t dress up like Santa Anna. On Chinese New Year, at least people don’t dress up like Mao and get drunk. On MLK day, at least people don’t put on blackface and get shitfaced.

        Just once I’d like to see someone get turned down for a job with the excuse, “Oh, you partied on St. Patrick’s Day, and you said you were ‘Irish for a day.’ Around here, we don’t hire dirty Irishmen.” And yeah, my grandfather was turned down for a job AND a college admission because his last name began with O’.

        I’m not fighting mad about it, but the way people just ignore the bad treatment Irish people got in the past and gloss over it with green beer bothers me. Because we no longer treat Irish like shit, we can turn them into cartoon leprechauns on the Notre Dame sideline, too.

        My kids are so fucked. Basically half-Irish, half-Lebanese.

        • CanadaBear

          Don’t you think that’s the same for a lot of ethnic groups? I totally get your point but I doubt most people believe in Leprechauns, Banshees, etc. Hollywood has portrayed the Irish as cops, priests, firemen and drunks (or some combination, thereof) forever. I think the more cartoonish and clownish it gets the less importance should be put on it. I’ve seen Irish get discriminated against in my neighborhood growing up. Just more dumb ass people. This used to bother me some when I was younger. Now I just shake my head and hope nobody ends up in jail from being over served.

          • Captain Obvious

            Yes, I totally think it’s similar for other ethnic groups. Italians, for sure — everyone assumes they’re mobsters or good cooks or whatever. You name a group, there’s a hurtful stereotype.

            And if it was just the stereotype, I’d say, “sack up.” Hell, my first DI called me a stupid Mick countless times. It was fun when I graduated OCS and outranked him and ran into him later, saying, “It’s a good thing this stupid Mick doesn’t hold grudges against inbred rednecks, isn’t it?”

            What bugs me is that the stereotype goes completely ignored, and people celebrate it. First time I got pinched on St. Patrick’s day for not wearing green, I realized it: my family background is an excuse for other people to get drunk and act stupid. Not because they want to get drunk and act stupid, but because somewhere deep down, they feel that’s what being Irish is about.

          • CanadaBear

            I don’t believe that last part at all. I don’t think people get drunk trying to be Irish. They get drunk on St Paddy’s Day because it’s an accepted reason to get hammered. Same as NYE.

          • Captain Obvious

            “because it’s an accepted reason to get hammered”

            Yes.

            But why is it accepted? Because Irish are drunks.

            Why is getting hammered NOT an accepted way to celebrate Columbus Day? Cinco de Mayo? Bastille Day?

            Why is getting drunk tolerated or expected on St. Patrick’s day?

            Why are they called Paddy wagons? To round up the Irish (drunk or not, they were assumed to be trouble-making drunkards).

            Here’s the thing. You can come up with similar examples for tons of different groups. I’m not saying the Irish have a “special” history of being shit upon. I’m saying that it bothers me that St. Patrick’s day perpetuates some of the very stereotypes that were used in the past to shit upon the Irish.

            And I might be overly sensitive. I’ll cop to that. I had an Irish professor in college who had lived in the US for 20+ years, and I asked him how he felt about St. Patrick’s day. He shrugged it off, because he said it was so far removed from actual Irish culture (it’s not much of a holiday in Ireland), and it didn’t bother him. Then he stopped, and said, “but I’ve only been in the country for 20-something years. I might feel differently if I grew up here when I would have been denied a job because I was Irish.”

          • CanadaBear

            Fair enough. It’s everywhere you look.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            awe the poor Irish…. look at the bright side a majority of the group are white so you got that going for you.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I would wish for an African-American to pull the white privilege card on me. Enslaved twice as long as you brah, and we weren’t protected as assets.

          • It is actually expected one gets hammered on Cinco De Mayo, at least in Cali.

            And a majority of ppl, including mex-ams, believe it’s mex independence day, when that’s in sept.

            Then again, there’s also a stereotype that mexicans are drunks like the Irish.

            What I really consider such holidays is an excuse to get hammered, which is an American tradition regardless of demographic.

            My friends get more hammered on 4rth of July barbequing weenies and blowing shit up.

            But I do get how someone from Irish descent would get mad at the caricatures.

            I dated an Irish girl (an “O’neill” no less. Two LLs cuz that’s from “royalty”) for like 7 years, and she had no issue with it. That day we just watched Irish movies, read Irish poetry, discussed Irish history and the such…over large quantities of stouts lol but in some ways, it was just a reminder of her Irish heritage.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Not a fan of St. Patrick’s day. It’s a weird one. Dude isn’t even Irish.

          The Leprechaun thing I find offensive, and I don’t find a lot of shit offensive. I wonder about the whole PTSD thing though, that’s interesting. Does 800 years of occupation and oppression fuck your nation in the head for a long time afterwards? There is definitely a predisposition to getting twisted in Ireland

  • MB30SD

    Jeff, go see one of those movies today at 11. Good luck. Happy St Patty’s

  • BearDown100393

    The Departed should be the “Its A Wonderful Life” ritual for St. Patrick’s Day.

  • CanadaBear

    Happy St Paddy’s Day fellas! Have fun but not too much fun. Congrats on meeting your goal Jeff. I wonder how you celebrate the achievement?

    Here’s a musical interlude that should make you laugh. Pretty much the only version of that song that doesn’t make me cry.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCbuRA_D3KU

    • Bender McLugh

      hahah awesome. Happy St. Pats!

      • CanadaBear

        I’m still torn between Animal and Beaker. Animal’s part is crazy funny but when Beaker comes in singing Soprano … Just kills me every time.

        • King of DBB

          Indeed

        • MB30SD

          Beaker.

          Mee Mee meee

    • SC Dave
      • CanadaBear

        Gotta love ’em!

    • SC Dave

      Here ya go Canada…. shed a few tears…

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DquA6KyHTos

      • CanadaBear

        Works better for me with a tenor. That’s what we had for my dad’s funeral.

        • SC Dave

          Understood. I just love multi part harmony. Nothing better.

  • CanadaBear

    I read an article on SI about what a woman-hater Zeke is for pulling down that woman’s top. #1 it looks like everyone is hammered. #2 she looks like one of the models on The Price is Right displaying her boobs (pointing back and forth and using the “Jazz Hands”and #3 she totally looks like a stripper. She doesn’t seemed to be too bothered by it. No doubt Zeke shouldn’t have puller her top down but it comes dangerously close to assault with a friendly weapon. Zeke might be a horrible woman hater but in that clip he just looks like any other drunk.

    • willbest

      How can you hate women if you like to look at breasts?

      • CanadaBear

        Not going there.

    • Johnnywad

      She also did it herself from the same platform.

      • CanadaBear

        That was pretty much my issue.

        • Johnnywad

          He was stupid. So was she. But he’s the only one anybody would care to go after and probably the only one with anything real to lose by it.

          These guys prove time and again they’re just not ready for the show.

          • willbest

            It’s a bit bullshit though. Pretty much nobody I grew up with would have survived smartphone scrutiny. We aren’t even talking sexual assault charges, just stupidity.

            Now we have to teach are kids how to always be aware of the cameras

          • Scharfinator

            Yup, it is the reality we now live in.

          • willbest

            But its not healthy. A quarter of women are on anti-depressants. Opioid abuse is on the rise, as is suicide.

            Hollywood has always been fucked up relative to the rest of the country. And I suspect its in large part because they were trend setters in the never allowed to be normal department. Now we are all 5 minutes away from infamous and that places a low burn stressor on everybody. We either need to collectively agree to keep the phones put away or we need to collectively agree not to make a big deal out of what we see with them. Problem is humans love watching train wrecks.

          • Scharfinator

            Good luck getting anyone to do much of anything collectively. Better to accept the reality and adapt instead of fight the river.

          • Captain Obvious

            Wow. I agree 100000% with you here. Stop the presses.

    • Bender McLugh

      I know a guy’s gotta lot to lose
      he’s a really nice fella, kinda confused
      he’s got muscles in his head, never been used
      thinks he owns half-a this town
      and he started drinkin’ heavy got a big red nose
      and he beat his ol’ lady with a rubber hose
      and he took her out to dinner, bought her new clothes
      its the way that the world goes ’round

      that’s the way the world goes ’round
      your up one day, the next your down
      there’s a half-a inch of water
      think your gonna drown
      that’s the way that the world goes ’round

      – Jon Prine (covered by Rig the Jig)

    • MB30SD

      This is such Fucking bullshit. I HATE that all the ridiculous media outlets are perpetuating this Fucking garbage.

      2 years ago in Cabo one of my good friends, my bro, and another buddy are talking to these three chicks. One of them literally has a 1-2 inch strip of bikini covering juuuust her nipples. The bikini looked like one of those string tank tops the roid Meatheads wear in the gym.

      We’re all hammered. He’s 44. So we’re just shooting the shit flirting with these chicks… And I look over and see my buddy just drunk staring at this chicks boobs.

      He reaches up and ‘boop!’ sticks a finger in her string bikini gives it a twang and pops her titty out.

      She was pissed, but it was Mexico and she was a Fucking idiot for wearing that.

      Anyway, my point is Zeke is what 22? Erraones drunk and partying, and he’s probably already hooked up with her a bit.

      It’s Fucking bullshit to blow it out of proportion. Just drunk kids acting Stoopid. nothing more.

      • CanadaBear

        I read where she was hanging with his group later in the evening.

        • MB30SD

          Exactly. He prolly balled her all night. But hey… When there’s money to grab, why have morals and decency. Fucking millennials. We have an intern who’s one… He’s a really really​ smart kid who comes from a great family (Indian).

          Despite the above, the kid is a total entitled little Fucktard sometimes and has the common sense of a Fucking rock. It’s really weird to see.

          • SC Dave

            Middle aged people have been saying that about the young for millenia.

      • BearDown100393

        “We’re all hammered”

        Wasn’t a chick. Wasn’t a nipple.

      • Captain Obvious

        If he was a nobody, nobody would give a rat’s ass.

        The fact is that he was OROY and is the face of one of the biggest franchises in sports. He can’t get a pass for it. Hell, he wouldn’t even get a pass for saying a potty word in public.

        Fair or not, that’s the reality. He should know better. Drunk or not. He is not ever just a drunk kid acting stoopid. He doesn’t get to be that anymore. His choice.

        • MB30SD

          I agree with this… but you can’t change physics. He is just a stoopid drunk kid. Soooo… here we are.

          • Captain Obvious

            One way or the other, he’s gonna pay for it.

            If he was nobody, there wouldn’t be any repercussions. The lesson he’ll (hopefully) learn is that he’s earned himself some great opportunities… and if he isn’t careful, he can blow those benefits.

          • BearDown100393
    • BearDown100393

      The fuss confuses Jerry Jones.

  • Bender McLugh

    One of my all time favorite Irish albums.

    Rig the Jig – One Night in Harlow’s

    http://www.allmusic.com/album/one-night-in-harlows-mw0000600514

    Slainte!

    • Bender McLugh

      there are two Jon Prine covers on there

    • CanadaBear

      Oddly enough I really don’t like Celtic music very much. Way too many sad songs and before you know it, everyone is singing. Lots of people shouldn’t sing (I’m one of them).

      • AlbertInTucson
        • CanadaBear

          I’m 0-2. I can’t dance either!

          • MB30SD

            I tear up the fucking dance floor canada

            https://youtu.be/BxXlPULqYN0

          • Irish Sweetness

            Best line in that movie anyway.

            I still contend the movie should have ended with the closing of the elevator doors.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I like the up tempo Celtic tunes but SPARE me the Dirges.

          • CanadaBear

            Yeah, you start going down that sad street it just gets creepy. Lots of people love it but it just depresses the hell out of me. No need for that.

      • SC Dave

        Unfortunately, when people start singing in bars that I’m in, it never sounds like this…

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R6h95227Jw

        [Not, it’s not Irish, but I don’t give a shit]

      • willbest

        My wife is another. As is my son. And that is a bit odd because they both have an ear for the piano, so why in the hell can’t they realize the notes are off key when they come out of their mouth is beyond me.

        • CanadaBear

          Most people have never had any vocal training. My piano teacher always said anyone could be taught to sing if they can learn their vocal range. Never had a chance to put this to the test

  • Irish Sweetness

    St. Patrick’s day in Ireland. Ah, the memories. National binge-drinking and widespread violence.

  • Irish Sweetness

    My Left Foot. Christy Brown lived across the toad from me growing up. Drank in the pub at the bottom of my road, where they’d put his Guinness in the inside pocket of his jacket and he’d drink it through a straw. That’s all I got.

    • BearDown100393

      Out kicks Connor Barth also.

      • MB30SD

        Damn. Cold

      • Captain Obvious

        With his right foot, no less.

  • BearDown100393

    Mike Glennon stole Braverman’s pot of gold.

    • willbest

      Considering the red hair, I am more inclined to believe he was taking it back not stealing it.

      • MB30SD

        I was thinking the same. Well said

      • BearDown100393

        I suppose if Will Ferrell can be an elf, Glennon could be a leprechaun.

        • willbest

          Will Ferrell as an elf is more believable than as a championship figure skater

  • BearDown100393
    • SC Dave

      What a hack.

      • MB30SD

        which one?

        • SC Dave

          Lincicome

          • MB30SD

            I was making a Glennon joke… Thanks. : /

    • CanadaBear

      It must suck trying to make a living out of spinning misery.

    • AlbertInTucson

      “Bernie Lincicome is a special contributor to the Chicago Tribune.”

      “Special”.

      Yeah, like “Special” Education and “Special” Class.

      He’s the bookend to that other “I didn’t know they could stack shit that high” writer,Jay Mariotti.

  • MB30SD

    https://twitter.com/dabearsblog/status/842756543301017600/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

    good luck Jeff… hopefully you can keep it under check now that you’ve seen the other side.

  • BearDown100393

    POX just signed John Jenkins.

    • Sahr Gborie

      does his signing change how you view the draft? are we definitely drafting secondary the line?

    • CanadaBear
      • I wish.

        I do wonder if Pace was pitching for Hankins though, then decided just to go bargain bin.

        • CanadaBear
          • Bender McLugh

            yep, big dude

          • That’s exactly what I was wanting (nttawwt). A big NT to spell and preserve Goldman a bit. Was just hoping that would be Hankins.

            Oh well. Just a camp body for now.

            And we still have the immortal Terry Williams.

            The dinner expenses just shot higher.

          • MB30SD

            Wanna see my shocked face that you want a, ‘big guy’?

    • Well, at least Pace correctly identifies needs…it’s just the dudes he picks which make me scratch my head sometimes.

      Another Aint’s cast off, and we all know how great their D was!

      From one poster af PFT

      “He played well as a rookie and then everyone watched in amazement as he got pushed around like a 100 pound corner on the D line. Don’t get excited Bears fans. You told us this about Olin Kreutz when he came to the Saints. We thought we got a great center. We got a turnstile.”

      Terry Williams, where art thou…

      • CanadaBear

        Who knows? Hicks was kind of an under achiever in NOLA and NE. Sure looks good in a Bears uni.

        • I was excited about Hicks. I def thought he was a sneaky bargain at the time, and read more than a few reports saying the same.

          I don’t recall Jenkins playing, so I can’t shit on it, but from the NO fan’s reaction, they’re not exactly pining over their Guinness for Jenkins.

          • CanadaBear

            Hopefully Fangio can light a fire under him.

          • King of DBB

            Pace is just Mickey Loomis’ errand boy.

        • Captain Obvious

          My thought exactly. Hicks has been a fantastic signing. If Jenkins is another Hicks, the D-line is looking good.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Just heard the clip of the (alleged) best Sports Talk Host, Mike Francesa, previewing Maryland-Florida State for the NCAAs.

    Talk about crapping oneself.

    Then he doubled up the the mess with an absolute lame attempt to explain what was obviously a complete lack of preparation.

    • CanadaBear

      You know how that works! If you have to go off script due to the proverbial circumstances beyond our control, it usually goes OK and the audience is very forgiving when something gets totally hooped. But if your plan was to wing it and it bit you in the ass for lack of preparation, that audience isn’t very forgiving. Is he usually unprepared?

      Nothing against anyone but I’m amazed at how prepared some of the sportscasters are during games. Really prepared and professional and then you get the NFL channel with a group that can barely contain themselves from using whoopee cushions and pull my finger jokes.

    • MB30SD

      Jeff loves that tool. Guy’s a buffoon

      • AlbertInTucson

        He certainly sounded like one.

  • Captain Obvious

    Ugh. 6 weeks to the draft. All the FA worth paying attention to have signed. We are now in the crappiest part of the football year. Someone wake me up April 25.

  • “My guess? The Bears don’t take their guy at 3.” – Jeff

    It that was the case, why Glennon over the Destroyer who would’ve been a superior mentor for much cheaper?

    You don’t draft a QB at #3 [edit or in the 1st] without having him start by season’s end or yr 2.

    I do agree with Jeff’s premise though, that they are targeting a specific QB.

    I just think it’s going to be a Peterman type on day 2, or in ’18.

    ““Hearing that Bears could indeed have an interest in S. Thomas at #3 but
    not as a 5. More of a guy they would play all over, both up & down” Gabrial via Guinesss

    Thomas “tweener” traits can also be a negative. That’s why some scouts have him dropping.

    Here’s but one report about Thomas via Walt

    “One of the fastest rising prospects in mock drafts since the end of the 2016 season was Stanford defensive end Solomon Thomas. WalterFootball.com was first to report that Thomas would leave the Cardinal early for the 2017 NFL Draft, and his huge bowl game against North Carolina jump started a lot of hype for Thomas that led to him being projected to go in the top 10 picks, with Thomas being as high as No. 4 overall in Walt’s 2017 NFL Mock Draft. In speaking with sources from seven different teams, however, six of them thought that Thomas is more of a mid-to-late first-round pick.

    A general manger of a NFC playoff team said Thomas should go in the top 24 picks, but they didn’t have him as a high first-rounder. Another AFC playoff team graded him as a late first-round pick. The issue that is coming up the most with Thomas is that many teams feel he has tweener size with listed numbers of 6-foot-3, 273-pounds. Some 3-4 teams feel that he isn’t a great fit in their defense and more of a 4-3 end. Sources from that AFC playoff team said that Thomas is more of a good left defensive end for a 4-3 team. They think he has good technique, hand use, awareness, and feel while also being a great person off the field. An NFC team picking in the top 20 said they thought Thomas would go in the 11-20 range.

    There were a number of interesting comments about Thomas from league sources. One AFC director of college scouting picking in the top 20 had this to say about Thomas: “Late one is right for him. Not worthy of a top 10. Nice player, but not special; undersized defensive end.”

    One general manager of a team picking in the top 10 said, “Thomas of Stanford does seem a bit rich to go in the top 10, but I think he would go around mid-to-late first … he is a good football player but may not be quite that ‘sexy’ to go in the top 10 … time will tell.”

    Another NFC national scout described Thomas like this: “Solomon is explosive, but at 276-280 pounds he’s got some tweener. He’s not a true defensive end but a hybrid, jack of all trades/master of none type.”

    WalterFootball.com did speak with a NFC general manager picking outside of the top 10 who did think Thomas was worthy of going that high and had a real shot of being chosen in that range. That general managers said, “Thomas is going higher, many view him as a poor man’s Aaron Donald.”

    It is entirely possible that Thomas will have a great workout at the combine to help his draft stock. It only takes one team in the top 10 to fall in love and pull the trigger on Thomas that early, but in speaking with seven NFL teams, six of them thought Thomas was a mid to late first-round talent. ”

    Read more at http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumormill#xbhM5AvFY0sTw5Pd.99

    • MB30SD

      where can I buy the fucking cliff notes version… sheesh

      • Just relaying the low down on Thomas.

        The more interesting part is that these guys Walt’s surveying aren’t bums off the street, but GMs, scouts and personnel men in actual war rooms.

        The question is – are they lying hoping to create a false narrative on Thomas hoping he’ll fall

        Or

        Do they really believe Thomas is not top 10 material (you don’t draft a LE at #3 that’s for fucking sure) ?

        • SC Dave

          Fuck them. Who are they trying to get Thomas to drop to? Are they Belichik employees?

          • Not just ONE team, or one gm, director of scouts, personnel , etc

            “in speaking with seven NFL teams, six of them thought Thomas was a mid to late first-round talent”

            Like I said, could be all BS, but who the heck is going to lie to a blogger? It’s not as if Pace is going to be swayed by WalterFootball (at least, I hope not)

          • SC Dave

            I was kidding. I think.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Pat Kirwan / Jim Miller mock draft on MOVIN’ THE CHAINS on NFL radio.

    1- Garrett

    2- Thomas

    3- Jamal Adams.

    • Sahr Gborie

      almost. more like
      1-garrett
      2-qb
      3-adams

      • SC Dave

        Bzzzt… wrong. Your 2. does not make it

        • Sahr Gborie

          Not really. Their defense is on the come up. The destroya and Barkley….Really?!? QB is the most likey option

    • willbest

      I will be sad if we don’t get Thomas.

      • SC Dave

        He’s my choice. But those other two would be just fine.

    • MB30SD

      I will be VERY happy with that pic in that scenario (and out of it too)

  • BearDown100393

    With the 3rd pick, the Chicago Bears draft {you will in the blank – not who you want them to pick but who you think Pace will draft}

  • Sactowns#1

    Loved Kinsale but Galway is still my favorite by far.

  • Captain Obvious

    With the third pick in the draft, the Chicago Bears select… La La Land!

    Oh wait…

    • BearDown100393

      Emma Watson

      • Captain Obvious

        I’d pick her over Deshaun, yeah. Maybe she can’t throw a ball, but I’m sure she can polish a magic wand.

        • BearDown100393

          Probably doesn’t fumble the ball.

          • Captain Obvious

            Fumble or fondle?

          • BearDown100393

            Yes

          • SC Dave

            No,and yes, ideally.

  • Captain Obvious

    With the first pick in the draft, the Cleveland Browns pick… Miss Venezuela!

    Oh wait…

    • SC Dave

      Their best choice in decades. Coke supply for the entire league and all that’s asked is a couple of studs (those that draw the short straws) to play hard for them for five years.

  • MB30SD

    if we pick that piker Allen, I’ll be pissed man.

    • Sahr Gborie

      Disappointed because it would be like drafting K.White if we knew of his injury ahead of time. 1st round picks should be able to play from day one with very little concerned regarding their health

    • BuddhaJoe

      It wouldn’t piss me off, but you’re right that I’d rather have one of the safety prospects. Hell, as long as they don’t do a McClellin reach I wouldn’t hate it.

  • BuddhaJoe

    Fucking St Paddy’s Day man. I got out of work and went to my dive bar to just get a couple rounds and chill. And of course the bar is filled with wasted weekend warrior bros and drunken squawking twats. Fucking amateurs.

    • SC Dave

      It’s Patty’s. And yes, probably the worst amateur day other than New Year’s Eve.

      But at least it appears you did not have any drunk SJWs, the worst that society has to offer.

      • BuddhaJoe

        Ha, I’m about as left wing as it gets in this country and that still made me laugh. Fuckin identity politics man.

        • SC Dave

          And gawd, they dress ALL fucked up. 🙂

          • BuddhaJoe

            The bouncer at my bar and my buddy dressed in fucking tutus. There’s not enough drugs on the planet for me to do that.

          • SC Dave

            That’s comforting to know about you, compadre.

          • BuddhaJoe

            Part of me is jealous of their confidence and their level of “don’t give a fuck”. The other part is “No, fuck no.”

          • MB30SD

            You didn’t see my lost bet pic obviously

      • evantonio

        Cinco de Mayo is pretty rough, too.

        • BuddhaJoe

          We don’t get that here, and apparently we have one of the highest populations of Mexican immigrants outside of the Southwest. West Michigan is weird.

          • MB30SD

            Racists

        • MB30SD

          God damned married people!! Get off my god damned grass!!

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        I owned a bar for 6 years, surprisingly the worst amateur day of the year outside of New Year’s is Thanksgiving Eve. St P’s does not always fall on a weekend, however most bars celebrate the weekend after if it’s not. However, with Thanksgiving Eve, everyone comes into town for the family crap, college kids are back home for the break.

        • SC Dave

          Interesting. I’ve only been on the consumer side, not the supplier, so I’ll defer to your experience.

          But I will say that surprises me.

          And also, that I’m home tonight. Amateur days I’m home before dark!

        • BuddhaJoe

          Can confirm, not sure if it’s worse but a close call regardless.

        • CanadaBear

          We used to promote a band every Thanksgiving Eve. It was almost always our most successful gig (money wise) all year. Nobody wanted to be stuck at home with the folks.

      • BerwynBomber

        Do many people hit bars on NYE? Seems more a party or event night.

        • Johnnywad

          Bomber, just watched Fences tonight. Wonder if you’ve seen it.

          I thought it was really well done.

          Al. What about you?

          • BerwynBomber

            I have not, though I would like to. Problem is I’m so lazy about movies I wait until stuff appears on Netflix and/or Prime. Just watched “Spotlight”, which was excellent.

            P.S. Jeff wrote glowingly of August Wilson, IIRC, so I’m betting he’s caught “Fences”. I’ve always liked Denzel too. Even dating back to his “St. Elsewhere” days.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Have not seen. Denzel is usually worth a look.

  • All this talk of alcohol and St Patty’s got me to watch Ken Burns: Prohibition on Netflix. Good doc.

    “Entrepreneurs” used to smuggle booze in coffins up and down rivers.

    How is that for symbolism?

    And here’s one of my fav comedians on the subject.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru5uyoskbw4

  • Irish Sweetness

    Man, we signed Kendall Wright and Markus Wheaton. Think about that. I think that kind of got lost during Cutty-Watch. And we still have Cam … Kevin White could, possibly, conceivably, maybe take the next step. We have some serious weapons at receiver now – and Wheaton gives us the long weapon we’ve been missing for the longest time.

    Now I know you’ll all shake your heads, but imagine the best backfield in the sport behind all that. We all want to strengthen that defense and fill it with Monsters. But we could draft Budda Baker in 2 and hopefully find a long body in 3 to rush the passer. But what every defense needs is an offense that can control the clock.

    If Pace is serious when he talks about BPA … then how will any 2nd or 3rd ranked DE outrank Fournette on Pace’s board? When the general comparison between you and another NFL back is Bo Jackson … you thank the Football Gods that you were put in the perfect position to draft him. Cleveland should draft Fournette – no point in having picks if you turn then into crap. The stars have aligned for us, and for once, we have the opportunity to draft a back that is more explosive than Walter Payton, and will have a greater impact on defenses … the same defense that will then be faced with Wheaton, Wright and Meredith when they realise the hand-off was a fake.

    Fournette and Howard. Wheaton, Wright and Cam. That shit is hard to stop, isn’t it – even with Gummo under center (he’ll look after the ball though). Keep the defense fresh, and then blitz the shit out of them on passing downs. A violent running game, and a violent defense. In the words of Capt. Jean Luc Picard … Make it so.

    • willbest

      It didn’t get lost. We have a team of 50-150 ranked WRs and the lessor ginger throwing it to them.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        BRAVERMAN!!!!

        • willbest

          I can’t get excited about him until Pox takes the shackles off.

    • leftcoast dave

      Irish- you mean let da Bears again be the Bears? The monsters of the Midway?

      Amen to that!

      You fix what you can with what’s out there and I agree Leo might be the BPA.

      But great to see what Pace has done to add value to that 3 pick by keeping everyone guessing. You want your QB? Better talk to us to trade for our pick. Trade down, early and often. Get an extra two or three in the second or third, a few more in the fourth and play the game picking your favorite value picks.

      Last year, Pace traded down twice in the 2nd before getting Whitehair and picked up two 4ths in the process. One of those picks is Hall, the other Bush. We shall see what they become, but those picks could have been used on Howard!

      Get numbers and let them compete for a spot.

    • I found the WRs signings very interesting.

      You’d think with Cutler GMs would want a vertical threat to match his arms, but it seemed like they wanted anything but fearing Cutler would chuck it 50 yds into triple coverage (he did anyways).

      So, they gave Cargo Bmarsh and Alshon. Big bodied receivers who can snatch those 50-50 balls

      Plus Royal. A nice crisp underneath route runner with good hands and built in rapport to minimize those INTs.

      With Wheaton, seems more like bombs away. Wheaton was part of that vertical assault in Pitts.

      Here’s his draft profile

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmAjy1h-yZs&list=TLGGN4IBjYEbjwMxODAzMjAxNw&index=1

      Wright seems more like a Royal type, who gets more separation and relies on YAC. However, he too can be a deep threat.

      http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/kendall-wright?id=2532977

      Seems like Pace wants more speed at O (also drafted White who ran a 4.35, and as we all have witnessed, Miller has some wheels too) in order to give Howard more room.

      Of course, that only works when you have a strong armed ACCURATE QB who hits the go routes with enough consistently to make safeties stay back.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    “If you don’t drink for 8 weeks and then start drinking 11 AM…you go to sleep at 4:30 pm.”

    HAHAHAHA! I kind of wandered how long he was going to last since he started in the morning.

    • CanadaBear

      Reminds me of the time I drank martinis with my old man. We started around noon or one and I had to go home and get ready for a date around 4:30. Full disclosure, I was passed out by 4:31.

  • BerwynBomber

    Saw this on ESPN from a couple of days ago …

    “For what it’s worth, Dabo Swinney spent most of Deshaun Watson’s workout chatting with Bears coach John Fox.”

    • BearDown100393

      Since Watson is the next Michael Jordan, does that make John Fox the current Red Auerbach?

    • CanadaBear

      Swinney is so pro Watson, I’m not sure if that’s a good thing or a bad thing.

      • BerwynBomber

        Doubt it amounts to squadoosh but had the posting itch.

        It was either that or the report that Jerra may not release Romo before June 1st. What a vile owner.

        • MB30SD

          Gotta be something to it, I seriously doubt he’s trying to fuck Romo over… It’s for a reason, has to be.

          • BerwynBomber

            Jones, I’m sure, thinks he is doing no disservice to his Tony. Jerra strikes me as a guy who always makes it about himself. The classic “this will hurt me more than it hurts you” type.

            Ah well. If it comes to pass, will be interesting to see how much patience teams like HOU and DEN exhibit. Wouldn’t be shocked if DEN pulls out of the Romo sweepstakes. Elway seems alpha enough to have a short fuse when it comes to Jerra’s games.

          • CanadaBear

            You know how it goes. When you are very rich with an ego the size of the great outdoors, you’re always correct. I wouldn’t trust a rich fuck like that if he said hello.

          • I think Jerra HATES that both the Broncs and Texans called his bluff. I was wondering if there was some unspoken collusion going on between their GMs.

            So, Jerra doesn’t want to be outmaneuvered. It’s all about Jerra at this point.

            “I love Romo like a son”

            He should’ve added,

            “But I still love me more”

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            money… probably save more cap space by waiting till after june 1.

          • MB30SD

            maybe

        • BearDown100393

          The only Cowboy Jerry ever loved was himself.

          • He fired arguably their best coach ever after creating a dynasty just so he could take credit. Then, Jimmy Johnson’s team drug Switzer to a SB, and Jerra said “See, it was me all along!”

            Then, Johnson team gone, and they missed the playoffs for like, what, 20 years?

            Fucker couldn’t stand Jimmy Johnson getting the credit. Rather destroy a dynasty than let that happen.

  • BearDown100393

    “I don’t think getting draft picks wrong is screwing up. Every single pick is an absolute crap shoot. You need luck.”

    Every single pick?

    • MB30SD

      Every. Single. Pick.

    • leftcoast dave

      To the extent he is right or the degree of luck involved, the trade off favors more picks vs higher picks. Last year we struck gold in 2, Whitehair, bombed at 3 with Bullard, have a possible diamond in the rough with Hall at 4 and hit a grand slam at 5 with Howard. For his price in the first round, Floyd can only be considered an average pick, which is not to disrespect him or what he might become. We gave up a 4 to get him. Who knows how that possible 4 could have panned out or the pick two spots back in the first?

      When rebuilding, it’s all about the number of competitors you can put on the field.

  • Some Thayer sunshine up yo ass!
    Thank you sir may I have another!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmAjy1h-yZs&list=TLGGN4IBjYEbjwMxODAzMjAxNw&index=1

    I still don’t like his wind up. His elbow and wrist are almost horizontal with some of his throws which is almost as bad as that Cutler loaf of bread shit.

    Defenders screaming around the corner will swipe at it, 6’6 or not.

    His accuracy still remains to be seen. 59% is Kyle Orton territory (literally 59.5%).

    Some counter that it’s because Glennon goes more vertical due to his bigger arm. Others, that, yeah, but what did Glennon and Orton have in common? – Lovie

    Both valid counters, but still…

    Things I did like from that clip and others –

    Patience
    Anticipation
    Doesn’t seem rattled
    Not afraid to go vertical
    Seems to recognize Ds and audible
    Touch
    Command

    Biggest questions

    Mechanics
    Accuracy
    Clutch
    Durability (has yet to grind out entire season)

    • leftcoast dave

      Like that we now have a deep threat combination to stretch the field. Can only help Cam as well as Howard and the TEs. With Cam’s great hitch and go move, the future looks bright.

  • Tis draft season, and I always like to pull the draft profiles on FAs we acquired.

    Ppl forget that Prince was a 19th overall pick in 2011. So in essence, we got an extra 1st rounder without having to trade down! Macho man, oh yeaaahh

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmAjy1h-yZs&list=TLGGN4IBjYEbjwMxODAzMjAxNw&index=1

    His one glaring issue thus far has been…health.

    But considering we only sign healthy FAs who then get injured, maybe signing an inj prone FA will reverse jinx that and become an iron man.

    • leftcoast dave

      The off season pickups have been good, but about what was signed as cast offs? Brown, Cam, Crevon? I think we gave up on Barkley too soon and can’t wait for him to take over in SF.

      • It is very odd that SF picked up BOTH Hoyer and Barkley.

        I don’t know if that has ever happened before, where one team essentially picks up the two starting QBs from another team.

        Obviously SF saw something in both, and like us, neither will prohibit them from drafting a QB.

        My guess is it had more to due with scheme familiarity.

        Plus, if I had a choice, I would rather see what Shaw could do before Barkley.

        Barkley had his shot and he crashed and burn down the stretch.

        • leftcoast dave

          Barkley did not have a fair shot. The db’s put him behind and forced him into putting up big numbers with receivers he had only fleeting experience with. Then there was AJ with his ped suspension and all the dropped passes. Sure, he was pressing to try to put up numbers, knowing that the D gave up so many points. He lost to the Lions and the Pack by three and the D gave up 41 and 38 in the next two games with the Skins and the Viqueen. Those four games followed the win against the 9ers. Perhaps they liked what they saw and Pace was just told to clean the decks.
          Well, it is what it is and I hope the best for both Glenny and Barkley.

          • The way Barkley forced throws in some of those games when trailing reminded waaaaay too much of Cargo (but without the arm).

            When trailing, Barkley became ultra-aggressive. The difference was that by the 3rd or so game, defenses had tape on that, and planned accordingly. That Washington probably cost him like $15M and a starting job going forward.

            Maybe he turns it around, but I think that was his shot (and it took 3 QBs going down), and the boat has sailed on him now methinks.

          • SC Dave

            Probably, but the beauty of sports is you never know. So we’ll see I suppose.

          • Yeah, I was pulling for him. Not only in Bear uni, but cuz I’m a USC fan.

            But calls em likes I sees em.

            Barkley was making throws he got away with in college and quickly found out that won’t fly in the NFL, not with his arm which is adequate, but no cannon.

            Will he adapt to the NFL scheming? Dunno. But if the 9ers get Cousins or draft a QB high, Barkley seems destined for backup duties.

        • Irish Sweetness

          SF may be blind. Hiring free agents seldom means they’re good.

          Pace kicked both to the wind. Do you believe in SF or CHI?

      • Irish Sweetness

        But hopefully Barkley would never see the light of day, right?

    • Forgot about straight outta Compton! Very surprised Cooper had most pass break ups on an excellent Cards secondary (maybe cuz they stayed away from Peterson?)

      FA overview

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D8ilIoDuUA&index=3&list=TLGGN4IBjYEbjwMxODAzMjAxNw

      Some Demps goodies

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D8ilIoDuUA&index=3&list=TLGGN4IBjYEbjwMxODAzMjAxNw

    • SC Dave

      Well… there’s the *age* thing…

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Kendall Wright was the 20th pick in 2012 so we got an extra 2 1st rounders.

  • willbest

    First real upset of the tourney

  • MB30SD
  • MB30SD

    Damn RIP Chuck Berry

    • willbest

      At least he didn’t die young.

      • MB30SD

        yeah, if I make it to 90 I’ll be surprised.

        That’s a pretty damn good run.

    • BearDown100393

      And Virginia lives

      • MB30SD

        amazing.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Happy Trails, Chuck.

      But who’d of ever thunk HE would made it to 90?!

      • Johnnywad

        Talk about gaming the system.

        • AlbertInTucson

          And he was married to the same woman for overr 60 years!

      • CanadaBear

        He was kind of a nasty piece of work so I’m not shocked he fought the good fight.

    • Irish Sweetness

      The face on Chuck at 1:19 when the crazy bitch that is Yoko Ono decides she can come in on the song and do that.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9kgu71d81U

      • AlbertInTucson

        If you do a “Mt. Rushmore”Of Rock snd 4 Roll, Chuck Berry’s face has to be carved on it.

        Possibly even first.

        • CanadaBear

          It all depends on who determines where R&B left off and Rock n Roll took over. There are so many people to consider.

          • AlbertInTucson

            No question on Chuck Berry for me.

      • MB30SD

        I hate that dumb cunt. Like she has talent just because she was married to a Beatle… And she’s ugly as sin

        • CanadaBear

          Trust me, all Beatles fans were horrified when John hooked up with her. Besides no talent she’s a tough biz woman. She would never have gotten into that show without a ticket if not for her hubby.

      • CanadaBear

        What a terrible clip. Lennon’s band is 1-step up from a bar band and Yoko is just the worst. If you’ve ever heard the Plastic Ono Band, 1 side is old rock n roll songs and the other side is Yoko screeching. I only made it about 2 minutes into it. My buddy assured me she screamed the entire side. What an untalented wannabe.

        • AlbertInTucson

          She changed her name.

          It was originally Yoko, Oh No.

    • AlbertInTucson

      On the “Mount Rushmore” of Rock and Roll Pioneers, he’s one one the faces.

      It’s ironic that his only #1 single is his cover of the novelty, MY DINGALING.

  • AlbertInTucson

    DBB: “It actually. If a team took 7 QBs in draft, league would think they’re nuts. If one turned into a franchise QB, they’d be called geniuses.”

    And the Bears would keep the wrong guy and one of the ones they cut would become great somewhere else.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Does that translate to RBs too? Ditka gave up his draft for Ricky Williams, essentially drafting a RB with every pick, but you only get one player. Wasn’t Ricky a franchise RB? Did they call Mike a genius for that? Nah, if a GM took 7 QBs looking for one he should be fired. It would mean he couldn’t identify a good QB.

      • MB30SD

        We can’t

      • a stud RB guarantees nothing. A stud QB guarantees a solid team.

        • MB30SD

          and a stud Safety….

        • Irish Sweetness

          With our OL, and Jordan Howard, it guarantees continuity / insures against injury, allows you to make running the ball a mission.

          • and is a great way to consistently go 6-10. If you want to win, you need a QB. Just ask Adrian Peterson.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I think there’s a difference between 7 picks for 1 guy and 7 picks at the same position.

        But, neither is practical.

  • Irish Sweetness

    There’s a shitload of people mocking Jamal Adams to the Bears. Most popular pick by far. Which means we’re not drafting Jamal Adams.

    • SS no

      • MB30SD

        Think of him as Mike Brown 2.0 yo… But hopefully without the injuries.

        He ran a 4.5… I don’t think he HAS to be a SS.

        I would love for him to be our pick, but Irish is prolly right, with our luck it will be Fucking kizer

  • Irish Sweetness

    I haven’t watched a Jordan Howard highlights video since before last year’s draft.

    Two things stand out. One is the blocking. He’s going thru big-ass holes and clear running lanes a lot of the time. The other is his petrol. Runs out in the secondary. Jordan will be an excellent change-up back for us in the ground and pound, but Fournette runs away from running backs. He can run the length of the field if he breaks one. No other pick is exciting, who wouldn’t want to see us batter teams with the run, and then Glennon’s arm is there on the fake … Wheaton’s gone deep. Wright is working the seams with Cam. How sweet would that be? POX might just do it. Fox won a playoff game with Tebow. Got to the superbowl with Delhomme. Glennon doesn’t have to be great with Fournette on board. He has to be accurate and ready with that arm.

    Do the right thing, Ryan. BPA.

    • MB30SD

      Stop dude, if we pick fournette Ryan pace will not have a job after we’re 4-12 next year.

      We don’t have a defense man

      • evantonio

        we don’t have a secondary. patch that up, and our defense is #11 in the league.

        • MB30SD

          Yeah, and some dudes need to step the fuck up on that line… Oh, and like half our starters can’t get hurt.

          But yes, if we can get a stud safety or even two in this draft (say Adams and the kid from Connecticut, or hooker and budda) we’ll be a metric fuckton better

          • evantonio

            pshaw. let them get hurt. GLENNON WILL OVERCOME ANY DEFENSIVE SHORTCOMINGS.

      • BearDown100393

        “Ryan Pace will not have a job”

        I’m okay with that.

        • MB30SD

          Hahaha, how did I know that.

          We’ll see… I’m really hoping he doesn’t do anything Stoopid. He can pick any of the following and be a stud:

          Jamal Adams
          Hooker
          Thomas
          Foster
          Howard
          Robinson
          Lattimore (little worried about his chronic hammys tho)

          • BearDown100393

            He’ll draft the kid with the most suspect medical track history.

          • MB30SD

            Yep, he’s gonna pick that guy in Allen. I’d almost bank on it.

            Sad we all feel that we’re always somehow just going to fuck it up. Smh

          • Irish Sweetness

            You don’t think Fournette is a stud??

          • MB30SD

            Maybe. He could turn out to be a fat Addie or a Richardson. Who knows.

            Bottom line is, I don’t give a fuck, for us it would be ridiculous to take him.

      • Irish Sweetness

        He keeps chirping on about BPA. I don’t see how a 3rd choice DE can be a BPA.

        After Jordan, we’ve got zilch at RB. Nothing. Langford’s too small to run.

        • MB30SD

          We have 3 serviceable rbs, one of them being excellent.

          We have literally NOTHING in the dbackfield… Save 3 vet journeymen.

          • leftcoast dave

            Demps is the key. SS, qb of the D, teaches the yutes. Good signings all around but he was the best.

          • MB30SD

            TBD right.

          • leftcoast dave

            Dude been there, done that. FS for two years at KC, SS the last two. Just what the youngsters need back there. Late bloomer without the wear and tear on his body and now the maturity to stay healthy, not lead with his head like Floyd did causing everyone to say, here we go again.

          • MB30SD

            Hope so man

          • leftcoast dave

            I think Pace robbed the bank in FA. People who have chips and want to play. Filled all “obvious” needs and now can draft for depth. Also added a lot of value to trade out of three for more picks. Back to smash mouth and time to add to the trenches. DLs are plentiful as are TEs this year. I want the best ILB on the board this year.

          • MB30SD

            Foster.

            I’d be fine if we took him. But if we do we need to pick up buddah in the 2nd

    • leftcoast dave

      Ok, Irish, let me add some hypotheticalizing to that. So we pick Lenny and drop a dime to those wanting a running back and ask, what’s it worth to you in draft capital? And someone says, we’ll give you our first and a third for JORDAN HOWARD.

      What do you say?

      • Irish Sweetness

        Absolutely you take it. But why wouldn’t they draft one?

        • leftcoast dave

          Draft a potential vs. want a known quantity? Only issue is price and need.

    • willbest

      And when Rodgers answers your 8 minute TD drive with a 90 second TD drive?

  • CanadaBear

    Here’s a nice tribute to Chuck Berry. From left to right; Johnny Winter, Link Wray, David Gilmour, Brian Setzer, Dickie Betts, Steve Cropper, Neal Schon and Dave Edmunds on lead vocals. That’s a young Anton Fig on percussion. Turn it up all the way Brother!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kxKUI6R3YM

    • Cormonster

      Wow, what an eclectic group. Just shows how big an impact guys like Chuck Berry had on R&R. I seen James Cotton died recently. Another bummer. I had heard his playing for years and didn’t even know it until the last 5-10 years.

      • CanadaBear

        Watch that entire show sometime on Youtube. All those guys did at least 1 song. Also, Tommy Iommi and Lita Ford are in the show but not the encore. I had a buddy at the show and he said this next song is the loudest song he’s ever heard. Leave it to Link Wray! When he comes back from the guitar solo he’s screaming his head off and you can barely hear him! Needless to say, turn it up all the way!

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXLJhDb3ksA

        • Irish Sweetness

          Ah Lita Ford ….. I passed out for her support act to Bon Jovi when they played Dublin in ’88. Those were the days. Probably.

      • CanadaBear

        Really a bummer about James Cotton. He was always my fave harp player. What a hurricane! Here’s a fun song that I almost wore out the vinyl playing back in the day.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjkurwSbNnM

        • Cormonster

          He was great. My aunt and uncle seen him on a blues cruise a few years ago and they raved about him. They said he was a really nice guy and spent quite a bit of time talking to them throughout the trip. My favorite has always been Alan Wilson from Canned Heat. Hooker n Heat was the album that really got me into straight up blues and it’s still my favorite blues album. Wilson and Hooker have incredible chemistry on the album and it’s just sooo bad ass.

          • CanadaBear

            Of the “27” club Wilson never gets mentioned and he’s as talented as any of them. What a loss when he died. I saw them in ’68 with the original lineup. I saw them again in ’72. My sister loves JLH and that double album.

  • willbest

    Sorry Wood, Gonzaga was a bridge to far

    • AlbertInTucson

      Yes, but how do 3 guys miss THAT goal tending call?

    • I was at a wedding and didn’t get to watch any of the game. Saw the score at halftime and groaned, figured it was over. Saw it again at 5 with 5 minutes left and was really pissed I couldn’t watch the ending.

      Too deep a hole.

  • leftcoast dave

    Ok, gentlemen, with most of the FA moves having been made, what does it say about likely draft targets other than the obvious at Corner and Safety? A good argument can be made that the team has no more glaring “needs.” So let’s go out of the box, off the wall if you will.

    Who are da Bears without a stud inside linebacker? What we have now is perfectly serviceable, but I would be anything but surprised to see that be the #1 pick if Pace is successful with a trade down strategy. The second (or perhaps first) will of course be a hard hitting SS, with plenty of options available. But still overlooked is the second biggest upgrade need and that remains OT. Not many great options out there so some would say this is not the year. I think with the needs having been met, an OT will be in the top three picked by da Bears and further down the board another G prospect.

    Then back to the meme of who da Bears are, we TE up with George Kittle from Iowa who is getting some looks. Iowa is a run first team with the known ability to train blocking linemen. Kittle is quite proficient with years of experience against Big Ten DL’s who also has great hands and good speed.

    Oh, yea, then another WR and CB with plenty to choose from in middle to late rounds as well as another cheap DE prospect.

    Then there is a QB prospect. I would shock the world and pick C. J. Beathard of Iowa. Started for two years and led Iowa to #2 in the Big Ten in ’15 with bowl appearances (yea, losses to Stanford and Florida) in both of the last two years. A proven iron man who played through injuries with the ability to run when needed and protects the ball. Harbaugh redux at great value in the 5th or 6th.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Hmmm.

      I hear “Iowa QB” and all I see is Chuck Long.

      Any relation to the 60’s Houston Oiler QB, PETE Beathard?

      • leftcoast dave

        His grandpa!

        “Footballs fall from Beathard’s family tree. His grandfather, Bobby
        Beathard, owns multiple Super Bowl rings from his time as an NFL general
        manager. His dad, Casey, was a prep quarterback and played receiver in
        college. His uncle, Kurt, was a college quarterback. He’s now the
        offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Illinois State, the team
        the Hawkeyes meet when C.J. makes his second career start in the Sept. 5
        season opener.

        “Me and Uncle Kurt, we have a great relationship,”
        C.J. said. “We’re both really competitive people. We’ve got a family
        reunion July 4th, and I’ll be with him there. We jab each other here and
        there. But it’s all in good fun.”

        Another uncle, Jeff, is an NFL
        scout. Jeff played wide receiver at Southern Oregon and became “Mr.
        Irrelevant” when the Los Angeles Rams took him with the last pick of the
        1988 NFL Draft. Pete Beathard, Bobby’s brother, was a star quarterback
        at USC and was selected by Kansas City with the fourth pick of the 1964
        AFL Draft.

        “It feels like it’s in my blood, the quarterback position,” Beathard said.

        C.J.’s hair earned him the nickname “Sunshine” after he came to Iowa, named after a character in “Remember the Titans.”

        • AlbertInTucson

          I remember “Bobby”.

          The apparently unrelated, Pete, was mostly a serviceable backup from 1964-73 for KC, Houston, St Louis (Cards) and (La.) Rams.

    • MB30SD

      If you’re saying that about ILB, then how in god’s name can we AGAIN (11th year in a row) totally disregard a general of our Dbackfield?

      I just don’t see it with how this draft’s top players stack up (2 safeties in the top 5ish players?!). Now, that said, besides the kid being a fucking idiot at the combine, I would 100% be fired up if pace takes Foster.

      IF he pulls a fucking move like that, he better fucking take budda in 2 and the 6’4″ kid in the 3rd or 4th if he falls (he probably won’t).

      My $.02 is to take Adams with your #3, and then go shopping for a CB/FS/ILB in the 2nd (in that order).

      As an aside, not sure I’d be pissed about him taking Cam Robinson (the bama OT) with our #3 either. It would be outta left field, but a potential franchise LT is always welcomed… he just better damn we be that franchise otherwise it was/is a big risk and could impact pace’ career.

      • leftcoast dave

        I even like the possibility of Peppers, but for the issue of being a “tweener” LB/SS. Would Pace like to have him for situational flexibility?

        I like the idea of a hard hitter there at SS and talk is that they might be looking to groom Deondre Hall for FS with his size and length. So much depends upon whether Pace can play the “let’s make a deal” game in the first round like he did in the second last year. If that 3 pick gives him ammo enough to trade the second or third up, he could land three great prospects at OT, SS and ILB. Down the board he can get CB, WR, DL, QB and TE. Turning seven top round picks into eight or nine should not be so hard to do as he showed last year in the second round while still getting Whitehair after trading down twice for extra fourths.

      • leftcoast dave
        • MB30SD

          “but why not add a blue-chip, long-term answer at a position the Bears have largely ignored in the early rounds of the draft over the last two decades. The issues at the position are well-documented, along with the need to find difference-making, turnover-creating ball hawks”

          Exactly this… Adams or hooker will do really well. As long as pace gets one of the two, I’ll be happy. Think I’m leaning more towards Adams at this point.

      • CanadaBear

        Everything I’ve read about Adams is he is a “tone setter”. The Beloved definitely need that, esp in the back field. Even if he plays SS most of the time, it sounds like he calls the D and lines them up. Impressive.

        • leftcoast dave

          FS at KC and last two years SS. Great vet to have teaching the youngsters at both positions. Since he will start at SS as the qb of the D, who do you get in FA, a top notch FS with Deondre’ Hall possibly being the future there? Plan to develop that FS into your SS while letting that pick compete with Amos and Hall? Whatever, I think that pick up in FA was top notch and will help the db’s tremendously, giving Pace the ability to perhaps grab a T or ILB before another S.

          • CanadaBear

            Supposed to be a great year for S/CB’s so I’m guessing more than one gets drafted. After that, who knows? Nobody from last year’s backfield better get too comfortable before they name the final 53.

        • MB30SD

          Jes!!

      • Irish Sweetness

        If Pace isn’t giving us the offensive backfield to die for, then I’m good with Adams in 1 and Baker in 2.

        • MB30SD

          Very kind of you you gypsy bastard

          • leftcoast dave

            A gypsy rover came
            over the hill

            Down through the valley so shady.

            He whistled and he sang ’til the green woods rang

            And he won the heart of a lady.

            Apropos of the weekend.

          • Irish Sweetness

            No biggie!

  • leftcoast dave

    Picked in the 4th, bad ankle injury sidelined him most of the year, had one int and several defenses in limited time. I recall one game where the QB tried to pick on him with two out routes in the red zone and he defended them both to perfection. When Crevon got his pick six, it was Hall who had the WR ten or fifteen yards deeper on the sideline covered like a glove.

    Yea, Deondre’ F’in Hall! Long and strong going into his second year with time spent in the weight room. Got the wingspan and ball hawking abilities to get the job done.

    • MB30SD

      I’m willing to wait and see, but pretty sure Adams would come in and instantly be the man

      • leftcoast dave

        No question Adams will be the man at SS. But Pace picked Hall for a reason. His length. Here’s his draft profile:
        “Hall’s head coach, Mark Farley, has stated that Hall could play any
        position on defense because of his good attitude, football intelligence,
        and tenacious nature. He started at safety as a freshman, played as a
        lean rover at times his sophomore year, and then moved to the outside
        later that year before starring at the position in 2014 (racking up 74
        tackles and five picks). Farley and his defensive coaches moved Hall
        between corner and safety in 2015, and he saw success in both spots,
        earning multiple All-American honors and the Missouri Valley Football
        Conference Defensive Player of the Year award with 82 tackles, 5.5 for
        loss, and three forced fumbles. He also returned two of his league-best
        six interceptions for touchdowns, giving him a school-record four “pick
        sixes” in his career.

        Strengths Has the arm length of a left tackle. Long
        arms are extremely disruptive against 50/50 balls. Uses length to stuff
        blockers and get into the action. Values run support and tackling and is
        never shy. Unusually high tackle count for a cornerback (82 this
        season) and forced three fumbles. Not intimidated by physical receivers
        from bigger programs. Offers help outside his area if he reads
        quarterback’s intentions. Closes the deal when he has a shot at an
        interception finishing with 13 for his career including six this year.
        Instinctive and aware in thirds coverage and looked comfortable playing
        from safety slot.

        Weaknesses Sticky inside foot that is slow to react
        against quick, inside release against press coverage. Lanky body doesn’t
        come with loose hips. Struggles to open and run with speed when beaten
        off the line. Recovery speed is below average. Long strider missing
        stop-­start athletic traits to maintain tight, man coverage. Uses jabs
        to receivers downfield as safety net that will be called penalties in
        the pros. Doesn’t have desired bulk and strength as a safety.

        Draft Projection Rounds 4 or 5

        NFL Comparison Trumaine Johnson

        Bottom Line Long and lanky with the arm length and
        interception production that will have teams trying to find a spot for
        him. Hall doesn’t have the speed or mirror and match ability to be a
        sticky man­-cover cornerback and his thin frame isn’t ideal as a safety.
        However, Hall’s instincts and tackle production scream safety if he can
        add muscle to his frame.”

        And that’s why he is in the mix at FS.

        • MB30SD

          “Missouri Valley Football
          Conference Defensive Player of the Year”

          Come on maaaaaan!

          • leftcoast dave

            And the number one pick in the draft was who?

            Carson Wentz from the Missouri Valley Conference.

          • MB30SD

            Exactly

        • Irish Sweetness

          I’d still draft Budda though. COMPETIN’ !

  • SC Dave
    • wow. Sad.

      Dementia would scare the shit out of me.

      Hopefully science cures that and Alzheimers in my lifetime. They seem like particularly cruel diseases.

      • MB30SD

        Very cruel

      • Irish Sweetness

        The cruelest. And I don’t know who it’s more cruel for …

    • CanadaBear

      Really sad.

  • MB30SD

    Watching the running man.

    Captain freedom!

    • evantonio

      you ever read the stephen king book? better than the movie.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Wasn’t it one of the Richard Bachman series? I loved them. The Long Walk. Thinner. Rage. The Running Man. Had them all in one book – The Bachman Books. The Running Man was different to the movie, and yes, very good.

        Never lend books.

        • evantonio

          Yes, it was a Bachman book. I first read it in Middle School not knowing that Bachman was King. Nice little surprise.

          I lend books expecting them to never return to my shelves. It’s ok, though. Happy to spread that sort of love.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I’m pretty specific with books. If I say “you can have this” it means “keep it”. If I say “I’ll lend you this” it means “give me back my book you thieving gypsy bastard”.

      • MB30SD

        I’m not really a horrible guy so kinda stayed away from king. Saw pet cemetery as a kid and it freaked me the fuck out.. maybe that’s why I don’t like cat?

        • evantonio

          not every stephen king book is horror. you should check out Running Man, The Body (novella that turned into Stand By Me), Shawshank Redemption (novella that turned into, well, you know), and 11/22/63

          • MB30SD

            I did watch the one about the hug storm in the little town. Can’t remember the name but all his shit is super creepy. Just not really my style, but thanks for the recs

          • evantonio

            WASH THE SAND OUT OF YOUR VAJEENA AND DRINK A GUINNESS AND READ THE RUNNING MAN.

          • MB30SD

            Can I leave the grass in?

  • SC Dave

    You know, This user is blocked is infinitely boring.

    Why do people respond?

    Is it some pathetic notion that they think they have a clever rejoinder to something that no one is reading?

    • evantonio

      i respond because Jay Cutler is the worst Bear in history to this guy. he has no problem with any other Bear ever. not even bryan cox. NOT EVEN BRYAN COX.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Hall looks good, man. We’re not cutting that bro for no good reason. I like.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      exactly, they need tackling dummies for practice.

      • leftcoast dave

        Cold.

    • MB30SD

      Kiss of PS death bud

  • Interesting.

    Free agent DL Ricky Jean-Francois will visit Chicago on Saturday.

    He’s also meeting with Seattle this weekend. Jean-Francois hasn’t struggled for interest since getting cut from the Redskins. He profiles best in a 3-4 scheme – Roto

    • MB30SD

      Shake and bake

  • beninnorcal

    GP, thanks for the ‘user blocked’ suggestion. Brilliant, indeed.

    • beninnorcal

      Brike IS GP, right? I lose ‘Trac’ of things around here sometimes. lol

      • CanadaBear

        Brike is Johnny Waffle. GP left in a huff or a minute and a huff.

        • Johnnywad

          He did? When did that happen?

          • I think he had enough of Will.
            So now we have the counselor in lieu of GP.

            Enjoy!

          • Johnnywad

            He needs to quit being a pussy. It would get boring quickly around here if we all think the same things.

          • MB30SD

            I told him that already.

            …In fact I just took a screenshot of this convo and sent​it to him

          • leftcoast dave

            You can lead a whore to culture, but you can’t make her think.

          • MB30SD

            Hahahaha…

            I’ve tried to woo him back via text… To no avail so far

          • Irish Sweetness

            An actual honest-to-God LOL movie where you LOL.

          • MB30SD

            I convinced him last night, and…. He’s back!

          • Irish Sweetness

            A break from the blog can work wonders for your life!

        • leftcoast dave

          “Been looking high and low for you . . . “

  • Data (or anyone) – does Pace take “depth” into account? In other words, did the depth in the last two draft classes influence who he targeted in the 1st?

    CB, S, TE, and RB are said to be deep this year.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000784501/article/ask-5-which-position-in-2017-nfl-draft-is-the-deepest

    I wonder if Pace does indeed draft Rush knowing that he can get values at CB/S in the 2nd and beyond.

    A prospect who goes under the radar that shouldn’t is Taco Charlton. 6’6 277 with 34inch arms and athleticism. That’s the kinda project freak Pace loves in the 1st.

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/taco-charlton?id=2557882

    Edit. Just watched 2 games of film on Taco (Ohio st and Fl st).

    http://draftbreakdown.com/?s=taco+

    Not very impressed. EXTREMELY inconsistent. One play he would get a sack or stuff. Next, get driven to the ground. His instincts and motor are dubious, and profiles more as a 4-3 DE since he looks stiff footed, so I don’t see him as a 3-4 OLB. Hope Pace doesn’t get cute with that dude.

    • leftcoast dave

      I think Floyd was considered “need” as in pressure on the QB. Pace went up for him with good reason, need and belief that he would be a game changer over time. With Whitehair, he knew what he needed and wanted in the middle and clearly had his sights set on him, despite other Gs on the board. Got two extra fours trading down for numbers. Surely, there was another impact player higher up at two, but then he would have had to go up (possibly) to get his G.

      As to “Rush”, that is also considered deep, that is why I am convinced he will trade out for numbers and the one may well surprise with ILB where there are not as many potential impact players, but a good one available mid first.

      • I subscribe to the Hub theory about Pace.

        Pace loves his athletic “freaks” in the 1st. White and Floyd fit that bill. White wasn’t really a ‘need’ at that time (and why many wanted Beasly) since Alshon was still working out a contract (though I do suspect Pace wanted to replace him long term)

        I don’t recall if the 2015 draft was “thin” at WR while deep at other positions of need, and as such, helped make White Pace’s pick.

        That’s kinda what I’m trying to figure out. If Pace does deem a position deep, maybe he waits till the later rounds.

        It’s a small sample size though.

        The only real combine freak is Garrett and OJ Howard (aside from WR John Ross).

        Everyone who is mocked (Adams, Allen, Thomas, etc) to us did OK in the combine, but none of them really jumped out as “athletes”.

        Beyond the 1st, Pace shifts gears and goes BPA regardless if they’re combine freaks or not (Howard and Whitehair are examples as neither were viewed as particularly athletic, but grinders with excellent tape).

        • MB30SD

          I think he has to go adams

          • I think I said before that Adams and Allen are a juicy steakhouse special, while Hooker and Thomas are that hip japanese-lebanose fuision dinner you hear about.

            Might be a matter of taste, but Pace has shown he loves “athletes” in the 1st, and that doesn’t strike me as Adams (Adams is a good athlete, though not like White or Floyd).

            But, small sample size (that’s what she said!) plus not many combine warriors in the top 5 in this cycle (surprisingly- usu there’s one or two risers like Floyd last yr)

          • MB30SD

            I just looked at the combine results. Know who was good… Budda and obiwanarealsafety. They both won 2 or 3 events

          • Yeah, I think Buddha is on Pace’s radar for sure as that 2nd rd guy, but Pace is odd. He only likes those “upside” guys in the 1st so far.

            If I had to put $, that narrows it down to three guys @#3

            Garrett (not bloody likely)
            Hooker (Didn’t work out, but if he had, he blazes a 4.41)
            Trubisky (Another “1 yr wonder” like White/Floyd)

            Thomas is a bit tricky.

            Like Adams, he did ok-good.
            But unlike Adams, he gets pushed up due to rush priority.

            Those are my best bets.

          • MB30SD

            Just no wtf picks please

        • Irish Sweetness

          Pace won’t be sold on the combine. For example, Fournette shows up fat, runs a 4.51. Bearing on his NFL career, and precise fucks given? Zero.

    • MB30SD

      Taco… His name is taco.

      • leftcoast dave

        Not to be confused with bearded clam.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Malik McDowell is the only dude I’ve seen who has some skillz AND size (6’6 295) but he’ll likely be gone by #36.

  • leftcoast dave

    Pace is doing all he can to enhance value to that 3pick.

    “7 Facts that Prove D. Watson Destined for Bears”
    http://sportsmockery.com/2017/03/7-facts-that-prove-bears-and-deshaun-watson-are-destined/

    And today’s visit by best available DL remaining:

    “Ricky Jean-Francois meets with Bears, but no deal — at least yet”

    Can’t wait for the visit to Leo.

    Tease, tease, tease. You want your man, come to us to get him.

  • MB30SD

    You’re all welcome

  • AlbertInTucson

    On a completely unrelated note…

    Congratulations to the alleged, “Greatest Basketball Conference Of All Time” ACC, for turning NINE NCAA bids into ONE team in the Sweet 16.

    L.O.L.

  • AlbertInTucson

    NFL Network has Adams to the Bears in their latest mock.

    • AlbertInTucson

      That one is with Garrett and Thomas going 1 & 2.

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