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Five Thoughts on the Mitch Trubisky Selection

| April 28th, 2017

(1) The Bears made their draft about Mitch Trubisky and Ryan Pace staked his tenure on the success of the Tarheel quarterback. One can argue whether the Bears could have stayed pat at three and still ended up with their desired quarterback but Halas Hall did not believe that. They believed staying at three meant possibly losing out on the guy they refused to leave Thursday night without.

(2) I got an email out of the blue Monday saying – essentially – “sounds like you boys are all-in on Trubisky”. I thought, “Okay, that’s odd.” Told Jahns. Told Dannehy. Went to a someone reliable around the Bears and they unreservedly confirmed it. Yesterday, once the Myles Garrett pick became official, I was 100% on Trubisky coming to Chicago.

(3) This pick makes the entirety of the off-season program more interesting. OTAs, Bourbonnais, preseason games…etc. all become about Trubisky and his development. And for the first time in my life, I’m considering going to training camp for a few days.

(4) Pace will try to get at least one of those mid-round picks back tonight.

(5) I refuse to rule out Trubisky playing in 2017.

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  • evantonio

    maybe he’ll be the first rookie QB to win NFL MVP?

    • Sahr Gborie

      I’ll have 10x what you just had

      • evantonio

        cucumber water. really does wonders for the mind.

  • Ososfan

    Trub will deff play in 2017: in all the preseason games and then back to development school…

    • CanadaBear

      Knowing the Bears luck, Glennon will go down in preseason, Sanchez in the first real game and Shaw in the second real game.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Shaw won’t make it out of Preseason.

      • Ososfan

        Nooooo! The horror!

  • MB30SD

    From the last thread:

    “Said this above. So the old browns and the fucking jets were battling the new browns (us) for this guy.

    Awesome, that makes the pick a sure thing, I’m sure he’s going to the fucking HOF when those three teams scouts/GMs think he’s worth a #2 and 3 extra picks. Good lawd!”

    • Sahr Gborie

      I’m in pain MB. So much pain. I dont know how to accept this.

      I get we need a QB but this is beyond crazy. I watched the press conference and read the transcript and I just dont know how to accept this.

      • MB30SD

        nothing you can do maings. It is what it is. We’ve known we’re the new browns for a couple years now.

        • Big Mike

          Bah.. we are on the path to being decent.. he says crying…

      • Irish Sweetness

        By not reacting. Wait for a year or so, and enjoy everything in between.

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      he’s more mobile than Tim Couch. But so is my vacuum.

      • MB30SD

        jes.

  • Malice Halice

    Regardless pace did a decent job. I’m tired of hearing ppl say he got fleeced. Ok yea he gave up 2 picks n 1 next year but it’s the 3rd n 4th fuckin round….WOW. yea we need those picks but pace got 2 shots at finding qb for the future and if Glennon don’t pan out, guess what? We definitely gone get a 2nd rounder or maybe 1st if hes good enough but decide to run with Trub. I give pace a B for yesterday fiasco. I’m still hoarse from shouting last night but I woke up with optimism. We gettin top 3 picks next draft for damn sure but we’re also gonna get more if we get rid of Glennon or maybe spanchez for a 3rd rounder next year. Trubz was a great choice for the franchise, not a great choice for the team. If that makes sense.

    • BearDown100393

      He fleeced himself.

      • MB30SD

        I’m already loving john lynch. Solomon thomas then foster. Drool-worthy 1st round. San Diego boy, went to school with his little bro, they’re a good family. I’m pulling for him.

        And fuck you, no I don’t want to be a 49ers fan asshole

        • Malice Halice

          Yea it sucks to see the only 2 teams we could beat grab guys who will destroy our O. But look DEY AIN’T GOT NO QB

          • MB30SD

            they are starting from 0 man. The post jimmy era for them was brutal.

            That said, what do you mean? They are getting guys who know the nfl. who do WE have again?!

            two guys who’ve played 5-6 games between them… oh, and buttfumble. So how much better off are we?

          • Malice Halice

            Oh we fucked. No doubt. But we got a qb…. just keeping saying man it’ll work

          • Big Mike

            Need a QB. Everyone knows it. Nobody wants to go for it, because they want MORE picks. Which is also a good goal. But you can’t have both.

          • Malice Halice

            That’s y I believe that multiple teams were gonna get trub

          • Big Mike

            Might be you and me alone over here with this insight.

          • CanadaBear

            Everybody wants the franchise QB but nobody wants to waste a pick on a guy that might not work out.

          • willbest

            In addition to the 2018 draft class other options for Lynch

            Kirk Cousins, AJ McCarron, Jimmy G, Sam Bradford, Alex Smith, Mike Glennon, Blake Bortles, Mathew Stafford (though I suspect the work out an extension). And Drew Brees (but I can’t really see him not finishing his career in NO since they have no heir apparent)

          • Irish Sweetness

            Jay. Cutler.

            Watch.

            It’s a Shanahan thing.

        • Irish Sweetness

          And then drafts Beathard! He’s already better than Hoyer.

  • Big Mike

    Kevin King, CB

    Keep your eye out for this guy…

    • Sahr Gborie

      Pace will trade down into next year

      • Big Mike

        I thought trading back is what the masses were clamoring for? Do you take Budda Baker early? He’s got a mid 2nd round grade.

        • Sahr Gborie

          No need to trade if we stayed put at 3. Regardless, if he can trade back and still get some big names and extra picks I might calm down

          • Big Mike

            Your infatuation with more picks is interesting.

          • willbest

            Considering we still have a bunch of defensive fliers in Hall, Fuller, Bush, Bullard, I don’t know what it accomplishes.

          • CanadaBear

            The Bears pick at 4 this rd.

          • Sahr Gborie

            Call me greedy but I still want the 3rd and 4th rounds we lost to get Mitchell

          • CanadaBear

            We all do.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Except we won’t ….

          • CanadaBear

            Why not?

          • Irish Sweetness

            The trade down.

        • MB30SD

          you take obi or budda.

          Which means Pace will take a punter.

          • Big Mike

            Oh stop now..

          • MB30SD

            hahahahaha…

        • Malice Halice

          Fuck yea we do! Or KKing. If we get some type of savage on DB I will be content. But ion think so. I honestly see him drafting a TE or a Guard. I’m expecting unorthodox shit from pace now. He keeps u on ya toes

          • MB30SD

            just like emery did.

          • Sahr Gborie

            his true colors are starting to show

          • Malice Halice

            So show me the way

          • Big Mike

            No you stop it right now MB. (I kid, I kid) He wanted Trubisky, he whipped it out and went and got him. Disagree with the decision all day, but the conviction is what you want. Emery had no fucking clue, or plan. You might have to go in DBB timeout 🙂

          • Sahr Gborie

            Passive Fuckery – Emery had to clue
            Active Fuckery – Pace has a clue but does not care that he is being fleeced.

          • Big Mike

            You can’t be fleeced, if you solve the QB situation. So again, it comes down to how well Glennon/Trubisky do. As it should. With that said, nobody knows. But I’m betting on the guy who made the pick and has had a team of people looking at this for the last year.

          • Sahr Gborie

            Pace has been fleeced until Mitchell is playing and beat Rodgers while helping us win the NFC North

          • CanadaBear

            So now the guy has to beat Rodgers to be successful? SMH.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I want more than conviction, I want correctness.

          • Big Mike

            As do we all. Check back in January of 2019.

          • Big Mike

            I think he levels out.

        • Irish Sweetness

          No, you take him in rd 2, but Pace will trade that fucker away in a vain effort at redemption for his blue in round one.

          • Big Mike

            Everyone has lost faith. ..

          • Sahr Gborie

            Hell yeah we have. Watson would have been ok. This draft was too easy. Maybe that’s why he screwed it up. He was not willing to trade up for Wentz or Mariota because the price was too expensive. But giving up a 3 and the option of players available at 3 for a clipboard holder is not too expensive? Someone explain that to me

          • He’s not a clipboard holder. He’s going to be the guy for at least 2018 and 2019, hopefully long beyond that.

            Quit thinking about 2017. When you’re bad enough to be drafting #3, you need more than one player to contend. They got the guy who they saw as offering the most long-term value, which is the right approach to take.

            Whether they identified that value correctly remains to be seen, but the fact that he might not play in 2017 has nothing to do with the quality of the pick. Career is vastly more important than rookie year.

          • Big Mike

            You don’t know what Watson or Trubiski will be. You’re having a knee jerk reaction. He did try to move up to get Mariota, but didn’t have enough to offer. Now you’re criticizing letting a first year QB develop. You’re trying to save a season. Pace is trying to rebuild a season.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I was right though, Obi/Budda on board, he trades down ….

          • Big Mike

            You jinxed it.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Did I call it or what?

    • That’s one of many quality dudes available.

      Buddha
      King
      Taybor
      Chidobie
      Sydney Jones (the achilles dude)
      Marcus Williams
      Malike
      Wormley
      Cam Robinson
      Obi

      etc so if Pace trades down, just keep these guys in mind

      • Irish Sweetness

        He certainly did trade down….

    • Irish Sweetness

      He’s tall! As is Akhelli (!) something. 6’3 corner boys.

  • KentuckyBearsFan

    Well, even if he sucks, at least he’s not Cade Mcnown.

    I don’t watch college football, so I would have preferred Solomon Thomas and then trying to trade for Mahomes who looked liked he had the most upside but Texas Tech is known for prick QBs.

    My main concern is that he took all his snaps in college out of the shotgun.

    • MB30SD

      yet

    • Captain Obvious

      Not many college players who don’t take most of their snaps out of the shotgun.

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        I did not know that. I’ve always heard that’s one of the biggest adjustment from college to pros besides the speed and strength of the pro game.

  • Big Mike

    I’m wondering if Pace is still gun slinging, or if he’s going to be more conservative. Do the Bears take Brad Kaaya if he drops in the 4th. Skins took Cousins after trading the farm and all the equipment for RGIII.

    • honestly, I would love that. They’re all in on solving QB this offseason. Hedge your bets even more.

      • Sahr Gborie

        I can forgive picking Mitchell if he takes another QB

  • King of DBB

    Deadspin deems Ryan Pace a cuck

    http://deadspin.com/why-did-the-bears-give-up-so-much-for-mitch-trubisky-1794738334

    Cucks have peckers, just tiny ones that don’t work. Pace is a synthetic life form with no genitalia at all, and faulty algorithms.

    And unlike Data from Star Trek, he seems to possess no circuitry to detect when people are lying to him.

  • Sactowns#1

    What’s even more depressing than getting Gomer Pyle as our backup QB, after tonight our draft is essentially over.

    • King of DBB

      I hear Brandon Marshall is looking for work.

      • Sahr Gborie

        Shut up Sir. You Shut up right now.

        • King of DBB

          Right now, up in heaven, Doug Buffone and Brian Piccolo are at the NFL Store buying 49er caps for this season.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Then fuck them.

          • Sahr Gborie

            thank you Irish

      • CanadaBear

        Did the G-men already shit can him?

        • King of DBB

          Oh no, they didn’t. I forgot about that contract.

  • KentuckyBearsFan

    Tru is supposed to excel in the midrange game. Maybe Pace thought he fit best with our wide receivers and current offensive scheme.

    Kevin White is more of a reacting wide receiver than knowing how to have the best route running and chemistry with the QB.

    If they can complete 20 yard passes all game long…..that matters.

    • King of DBB

      Excellent point.

      If you don’t have the talent to run the deep route, why bother with a QB that can throw the deep ball?

      #PaceLogic

      • MB30SD

        Winning logic!

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        Well if he can be Tom Brady without the deep ball….well that means he’s not Tom Brady.

        So he could be Alex Smith with a stronger arm. Smith won a lot of games back in the day.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I member Alex Smith when he was the worst QB in the league. Member?

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            only if that was his first two seasons

          • Irish Sweetness

            He was brutal. His ceiling is Vinny Testeverde.

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        And Cutler could throw the deep ball!

        Just didn’t know which team he was throwing to by the end.

      • Captain Obvious

        Umm, you haven’t watched tape, then. Trubisky has a pretty strong arm. Maybe not quite a Cutler Cannon, but stronger than Brady.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Markus Wheaton and Deonte Thompson are very fast. Cam is no slouch. I presume Kevin White is fast?

        • willbest

          With a metal rod in his leg?

          • Irish Sweetness

            If he can’t run, he should be cut.

          • willbest

            All 4 years guaranteed is a bitch.

    • Trub does excel in the midrange game, but he has zip and can throw deep.

      Just most college Os these days aren’t the 80s Raider vertical attack, so Trub really didn’t get a chance to display it.

    • willbest

      Josh Bellamy is going to have more receiving yards than Kevin White this year.

      • SC Dave

        Sounds like a reasonable bet, since White’s history would lead us to believe that he won’t last five games.

        • Sahr Gborie

          Shots Fired. Man Down. Someone Call A Medic.

    • Irish Sweetness

      “If they can complete 20 yard passes all game long…”

      They will be the greatest QB-WR tandem in history.

  • Sahr Gborie

    For me this pick hurts because of how Pace was able to move around in the draft the past 2 years and get valuable players. You tell me he could not do that this year and still get Mitchell? This seems to be the opposite of everything Pace has shown us the past 2 years

    • King of DBB

      It’s really going to hurt when Nathan Peterman from Pitt has a better career than Trub.

      • CanadaBear

        Don’t really believe it but it made me laugh.

      • You might be right.

        I dubbed Peterman “Trub-lite”.

        But the really bad trait Peterman has that I saw is that he hesitates throwing the deep ball, either cuz he’s weak armed, timid, or both.

        In other words, Peterman is Hoyer Jr.

        Maybe he elevates. Maybe he goes full-Fitz

        • King of DBB

          #HahvahdWonderlic

          • Sactowns#1

            Bwahahaha. Love the new name and pic.

  • Sactowns#1
    • King of DBB
    • SC Dave

      Is it just me, or does Trubisky looks like Pace’s little brother?

      • willbest

        I hate you for that. I can’t not see it now.

  • MB30SD

    is this the way successful teams do it?

    Surprise the fuck out of the guy you’re picking? Not really talk to him much?

    I’m asking honestly, is that normal?

    I think someone posted the same about cutler and the donks yesterday.

    http://deadspin.com/why-did-the-bears-give-up-so-much-for-mitch-trubisky-1794738334

    • MB30SD

      sorry GP, just read down

    • Cutler made a Pro Bowl in DEN his 3rd year in the league. I’d be ecstatic if Bears can repeat that feat.

      Then hopefully they just don’t hire obnoxious douchemonger after Fox to come in and run the young franchise QB out of town.

      • MB30SD

        that’s what Butch is suggesting. It’s like an alternate universe where we get to play the broncos this time.

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        Fox is in the twilight of his career and we need him as of now after Pussyfoot.

        But he’s near the end.

        He’s never – for all their faults – shown he can be Coughlin, Parcels, Belichick, Bill Walsh, or even Seifort. Not even Harbaugh.

        Fox is good. But he’s like the Scott Skiles of the NBA.

  • Here’s the 2 gripes I’m getting from fans.

    1. Trubisky is not the right guy at any cost.

    This I can get. If you simply don’t think Trub is the guy (like Irish preferring Watson) then I can understand you being pissed. If it had been Mahomes or Kizer, I’d be enraged too.

    Thing is, personally, I think Trub has the most NFL potential. That’s my take from watching his tape a few months back.

    And Trub was pretty much the consensus best QB for most of the ‘mock season’, so it’s not as if he reached for Kaaya here or something.

    It’s also good to remember that at this point, NO ONE knows which rook QB is a bust or not. How pissed would you have been last April if we had traded up for Dak in the 1st? Think we all know the answer to that.

    So, chill Winston.

    2. .Trubisky might be the guy, but did we really have to give up all that for him?

    Yes, yes we did. I said that it would come out that other teams were willing to trade up for Trub. I guessed Jets, Browns, but could’ve been more teams (Chiefs and Texans both traded up for a QB).

    Will we ever know the exact truth? No. And it really doesn’t matter because if Trubisky pans out, it won’t matter what white guy from Wichita state we could’ve drafted in the 3rd in 2018.

    Sad fact is, Goodell NFL has weighted the QB so much that a slightly above avg QB is worth more than 1 studly defender (like Adams, Thomas, etc) or 3-4 Amos-es at other positions.

    That’s just the way it is.

    Either way, it’s obvious that Pace subscribes to the franchise QB theory, and given that he liked Mariotta and Wentz, and was linked to Jimmy G, maybe just maybe we finally have an evaluator in charge who knows what a good QB looks like.

    I for one am willing to find out.

    • Sactowns#1

      The only people spreading that lie are Bears front office folks trying to justify the most bonehead move in all of football. Until I hear those teams say “yeah we were trying to move to 2 to get Gomer Pyle” then I wont believe it.

      • CanadaBear

        That’s because that’s what you want to believe. You and I both know no GM is ever going to come out and say that.

      • GMs can’t just bald face lie like that on draft day.

        They can’t say “Yeah, I got 3 teams vying to trade up to #2 for Trub” and it NOT be true to a certain extent.

        Why? Cuz the Jets or other GMs could simply say, “That’s not true. We were never willing to trade-up for Trub” and in one year Lynch has just sabotaged his credibility going forward, and no other team will ever trust him on draft day going forward.

        Now, could it be Lynch exaggerated Costner style? Naturally, but in the movie the Hawks were indeed on the other line.

        And in the end, what did the 9ers score? According to the chart, they got an extra 3rd.

        Big Whoop.

        Who had a better draft last season, Philly with Wentz, or Cleveland and their 1 win team?

        • Irish Sweetness

          Cleveland so far this year. Garret, Njoku, Peppers, in one round. Not bad.

          • Who will give their fans more playoff hopes come Nov, the Browns with all their picks, or the Eagles with Wentz?

          • willbest

            Wentz throwing to Jeffery or Oz throwing to …?

  • willbest

    I would like take some time out of the Trubisky confusion to ponder why the hell Lamarr Houston and Eddie Royal are still on the Bears roster.

    • SC Dave

      Because cuts haven’t started yet.

      • willbest

        We cut Porter

      • They’re hoping those guys can be healthy enough to pass an exit physical so they can just cut them without having to pay them to go away.

        Royal will be off the roster before UDFAs are signed. Likely Houston too, but maybe a small chance he sticks if they don’t add any edge rushers. Though still likely cut since they re-signed Acho, who was getting snaps as OLB4 over him last year.

        • Cutting Houston would save like 4M but would that roll over?

          If not, may indeed keep him.

          • willbest

            It saves 5 million and it rolls over. There has been nothing he has done while he has been a Bear to justify paying him $6 million this year.

          • the 1 healthy year had had he was pretty good. But 1/3 ain’t a good ratio, and he’s the 4th or 5th OLB right now.

          • This is where Fox and Pace may want different things.

          • Yesterday is conclusive proof that Pace is calling the shots. What Fox wants is irrelevant.

          • willbest

            100%

  • George Hotchkiss

    Quick question, so who is Trubisky going to throw to?

    • Sactowns#1

      White (If he’s not injured) Wilson (if he’s not injured) Royal (if he’s not injured)

      • willbest

        Do we still have Wilson?

        • Bender McLugh

          no

      • MB30SD

        what about the new guys?

      • Bender McLugh

        Kendall Wirght, not Wilson

    • Bender McLugh
    • willbest

      Well as QB #3 you throw to the #5 and 6 WR so that would be Bellamy and Thompson the #3 TE so that Brown guy or Harvard, and whatever practice squad guys we will have. Braverman.. etc

    • Irish Sweetness

      Decent receivers. Even Braverman is decent at catching.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        BRAVERMAN IS A GOD AT CATCHING!!!!

    • BearDown100393

      A guy in a floppy hat on the sideline.

  • BerwynBomber

    Al posed an interesting question late last night. What type of player will Trubisky need to be to justify the move/pick? My short answer: Cutler, which means an average league starter, neither franchise nor bust. Like Angelo’s trade with DEN back in the day, that will make move justifiable in retrospect, even if ultimately disappointing/frustrating.

    But I also hastened to add that if that Trubisky proves to be Cutler 2.0 what we do NOT want to see is for Emery 2.0 come along and say, “hey, you know what this team needs? a max/elite deal extended to our flawed, average QB, the hiring of an unproven, offensive “guru” HC, and a team built around Mitch.” In other words, basically what we did with Cutler after we had already seen what he was and wasn’t after four years.

    In other words, either move in an opposite direction after Trubisky’s rookie deal is up or pay him low-end starter money with Glennon-like guarantees.

    • willbest

      I said he has to be the best QB in this draft.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah I saw that. But I think there are too many potential qualifiers or it is too simplistic for me to agree. Just as an example, let’s say Mahomes becomes a multiple PBer while Trubisky becomes Cutler. We will say Pace missed on identifying the right guy, but we can also say the pick wasn’t a complete miss and was justifiable (but not optimal).

        • CanadaBear

          I know when I said top 15 Al wasn’t impressed but top 10 seems too high to justify the pick. Top 15 is still better than Cutler.

        • willbest

          Here is my reasoning. If he would have drafted Trubisky at #3 then the standard would have been top 20 QB. But he moved up. 1 spots to the #2 seed. That extra commitment raised the bar.

          Note he still doesn’t need to be elite. He can still be Cutler, so long as nobody else is better.

          Amusingly I think the bar for Mahomes is higher. The Chiefs have a top 15 QB, and they moved up. Mahomes has to be a top 10 QB because otherwise what the fuck was the point of that.

          Watson on the other hand despite the Texans moving up (in a desperation move), only has to be Blake Bortles with that defense.

          • willbest

            To add to Watson… If they win the SB with that move in the next 2 years then it doesn’t matter what he does long term. Ie. whether he breaks down RG3 style.

          • BerwynBomber

            Tom Savage is our quarterback.

            Yeah, we’ll see about Watson. I wonder how long the HOU D will be elite. Plus, for a team to go all the way with an average QB the guys still either has to have a clutch gene and/or come up big in post-season games, a’la Eli and Flacco.

            The only one in the last 20 years who didn’t was Dilfer. And even penis head played well in their SB, even if his performance was semi-redundant by that point.

          • willbest

            Did Peyton win them a playoff game? He did squat in the SB

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah BUT Peyton was once elite, though yeah, you could throw him in Dilfer’s class in regard to Peyton’s last year.

          • BerwynBomber

            Interesting, but I think any of these guys (Trubisky, Mahomes, Watson) fall in that top 20/justifiable move category. QBs are of such extreme value in today’s game that even if you “slightly” miss it seems justifiable.

            It’s the bust picks for which there is no justification, though I get your point that all three required trade ups so therefore were more costly.

          • I think it’s diff for diff franchises since they’re at diff points

            Chiefs have a loaded team on the playoff Cusp.

            So expectations for Mahomes is to do what Alex Smith can not. Win playoff games and maybe SB

            Bears on the other hand are faaaaar away from that.

            We’re like the Falcons when Matty took over. Just need a QB to bring some life and hope after the the colossal hype and crash from previous QB.

            Hopefully that’ll eventually lead to a competitive team going forward like with the Falcons, but that has a lot to do with sustained draft/fa excellence as it has to do with QB development.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Which remains to be seen if he is.

        • willbest

          After sleeping on it I understand what Pace did. I don’t agree with it, but its not really my job. I absolutely believe that 2017 is now a throwaway season for the Bears. I mean they don’t want to look like dog shit. They are going to want to put Trub in there to demonstrate to the FA market that there is a chance of winning in Chicago so our money is just as good as Arizona’s. But the odds of this season being the launching point for a 2018 NFCC bid are remote

    • Irish Sweetness

      But Cutler’s trade wasn’t justified – from today’s perspective. We got hosed, with 20-20 hindsight.

      • BerwynBomber

        He was a 26 year old Pro Bowler with a huge arm and a lot of “potential”. We were a QB-starved franchise. It still looks justifiable to me even if it didn’t work out.

        But yeah I hear what you’re saying.

        • Irish Sweetness

          “- from today’s perspective” was key there.

          Only a fool would make the same trade again.

          • willbest

            He said it was still justified even in hindsight. What BB has always contended wasn’t justified was the Emery contract

    • That Guy

      The challenge will be if Trubisky is Blake Bortles. Good enough to be the confirmed starter, but never good enough to erase the doubts. If that’s the case, we’ll need to draft a mid-rounder in a couple year’s time to be the new backup.

  • MB30SD
  • willbest

    I feel like this didn’t get enough exposure owing to the thread change

    https://tiredtrade.tumblr.com/post/142142112149/iliketheseboobs-wow-big-tits-live-big-tits?is_related_post=1

    courtesy of Bender

    • MB30SD

      excellent. I needed that

  • Irish Sweetness

    Bastard new thread again.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Question:

    Is Lynch allowed to say “I have offers from X and Y looking for the 2 spot. What will you give us?” .. if there are no such teams offering anything?

    • yes. There’s no rule against lying. That’s part of the game.

      Pace’s logic in the presser last night was that teams were calling him inquiring about trading up to 3, so he figured they were calling SF too.

      • Irish Sweetness

        So he got fucked.

        Hire John Lynch.

        • And if Trub turns into the next Carr (who some compare him to)?

          • Irish Sweetness

            We’ll get over it quickly.

            We need an OT, LBs, DL, S though.. .kicker in the 7th!

          • BearDown100393

            Which one?

      • Let’s face it. Teams WERE calling 9ers for trade up.

        Just look at what the Chiefs and Texans gave up.
        No doubt the Jets and maybe Cards were calling 9ers.

        Only question remaining is what EXACTLY they were offering, but if they were offering something similar to the Bears, Pace said ‘fuck it, i’ll throw in an extra 3rd and you’re GUARANTEED to get Thomas’

        I’m willing to bet that’s exactly how it went down.

  • King of DBB

    “If we want to be great, you just can’t sit on your hands,” Pace said, via the Chicago Tribune. “There are times when you’ve got to be aggressive, and when you have conviction on a guy, you can’t sit on your hands. I just don’t want to be average Joe around here; I want to be great. And these are the moves you have to make to be as great as I want to be.”

    • Irish Sweetness

      Adolf Hitler.

      Poland, 1939.

      • King of DBB

        Adolf Hitler: Not your average Joe

        • Sactowns#1

          lol.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Apples & Nazis comparison.

  • This is fantastic news: Per @mortreport, even Chicago Bears coach John Fox didn’t know about plan to draft QB Mitchell Trubisky until a couple hours before.

    That means Pace has officially moved to the point where he is thinking beyond John Fox and is actually the man in charge.

    Who knows if Pace will succeed, but at least he gets the chance to go down swinging on his own terms.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Fk me. He was thinking Adams…..

      • There are 4-5 S who will be drafted in round 2. I’m guessing half of them end up having better careers than Adams.

        Adams was the safest pick in the draft but also had the least upside of pretty much anybody in the first 2 rounds. You don’t spend the 3rd pick in the draft on a safety who’s a below-average athlete and doesn’t force turnovers. That’s fucking stupid.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Who then?

          • when your’e drafting this high and need a QB, you take the best QB on your board unless there’s an absolute no-brainer there like Myles Garrett. The Bears did EXACTLY what they should have last night.

            Maybe they identified the wrong guy, but history tells us quite clearly that at least 1 of Trubisky, Watson, Mahomes pans out, maybe 2. 5x in last 20 years that 3+ guys went in top 12, and all saw at least 1 turn into a quality starter. Hopefully Bears got that one.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I agree we should have taken a QB first, and we did.

        • I agree and that’s what I was trying to tell MB, but he, and others, were convinced Adams was the next Berry.

          He isn’t, IMO.

          Said he was more of a TJ ward type of SS. Solid, good, PBer, but no Berry.

        • Irish Sweetness

          And we ignored every one of them!

  • Irish Sweetness

    Full presser from Pace: (17 minutes)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd8e3anjXuM

    Behind the scenes:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3Ssll6Kh9w

    1. He doesn’t know if Lynch was conning him, didn’t really care.

    2. Other teams wanted the third pick.

    3. No competition, he will develop the right way.

    • Big Mike

      Thanks irish.

  • King of DBB

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    You know why Ryan Pace didn’t tell John Fox? Because he didn’t want to also tell Jay Glazer.

    I knew Foxy was a leaker, I just thought it was into his Depends.

  • Pace thinking long-term, Fox thinking now. Pace’s guy is Trubisky, Fox’s guy is Glennon.

    What happens if the Bears are, say, 2-6 at the bye? Pace tells Fox to play Trubisky 2nd half of the season, Fox says no.

    Pace just showed he has the stones. If I were a gambling man I’d wager a small amount that Fox is the 1st head coach to hit the unemployment line this year.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Foxy had his eye on Adams and Thomas.

    • MB30SD

      fire both and let the rebuild train rumble into yet another new station?

      • Next offseason, Pace will hire his HC, likely with the goal of maximizing Trubisky. If that fails, Pace goes down.

        • #McDaniels

        • BearDown100393

          He’ll trade his entire draft for Jack Del Rio.

          • MB30SD

            SOLD!

          • Sahr Gborie

            i feel better now

        • BC

          Any chance Arians is looking for work if Cards are 6-10 this season?

    • Not telling Fox the plan is a YUGE indictment on Fox.

      He’s on a very short leash.

      In your scenario I’m not sure Pace tells interim coach to throw Trub into that shit-show.

      That would be Rams/Fisher/Keenum/Goff all over again.

      That’s why I said I hope CHI fans are more patient than Rams fans.

      Trub needs a full NFL season to sit and learn shit, like, ya know, hard counts.

    • BearDown100393

      Ted will call Accorsi for advice when the time is right.

    • Sahr Gborie

      Fox was involved in drafting Mitchell. He gave his blessing. Watch the press conference again.

      • multiple reputable national media guys reporting Pace/George made this decision over a month ago and didn’t tell Fox about it until yesterday afternoon.

        Obviously Bears aren’t going to publicly say that. Who knows if it’s true or not.

        • I totally would believe it.

          #1hardDumpFromRetirement

        • MB30SD

          gotta believe fox wanted adams or solomon.

          • willbest

            No doubt. Glennon totally seems like a fox QB. Got some experience. Doesn’t make crushingly brutal mistakes. Chews up clock. Slows the game down.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I don’t think Pace can tell Fox who to play …

  • King of DBB

    Oh man, I wish I had the software to do a bad lip reading thing on this part of the video

    https://youtu.be/f3Ssll6Kh9w?t=41

    • Sactowns#1

      “Hey, so I guess we drafted you.”
      “Oh wow! Thanks. I’m really surprised!”
      “I think we’re all surprised. Hell, I don’t even know who picked you. And who knew you had such a lovely singing voice?”

  • evantonio

    Unsure if this has been addressed because you guys are posting way too much to keep up, but… Glennon, Sanchez, Shaw, Trubs.

    When does Sanchez get cut?

    • willbest

      He doesn’t. We will carry 3 QBs into the season.

      • evantonio

        sigh. poor mr. shaw.

        • willbest

          He just can’t catch a break. Well the good kind anyway.

        • SC Dave

          Just watch. 2019 Pro Bowler and additional appearances thereafter. With some other team after they steal him from our practice squad.

          • evantonio

            maybe he’ll be the one to finally lead the browns to glory?

          • SC Dave

            Wouldn’t THAT be something?

        • Irish Sweetness

          PS.

    • he doesn’t. He was brought here to mentor Trubisky for the future while Glennon focuses on playing this year.

      • willbest

        I said yesterday I don’t even think Trubisky will be on the game day 46 before the bye unless Glennon gets hurt.

        • I would imagine he is just for the experience of being there with the headset on, to be able to listen to dialogue between coach and QB.

          • willbest

            I don’t know the rules. I thought the inactives were on the sidelines just not in uniform.

          • maybe. Not entirely sure there either.

      • evantonio

        huh. not sure sanchez is the sort of mentor i’d want.

        • I’m with you there, but that’s the only reason I see for signing him.

    • BearDown100393

      Sanchez will be the starter when Glennon dislocates his neck on the goal post.

      • MB30SD

        hahaha

      • evantonio

        running out of the tunnel?

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    after briefly looking through the last 2 threads I believe this will help some of you.

    National Suicide Prevention Lifeline
    1-800-273-8255

    • willbest

      Are you feeling okay? Cause this is the second time in the last week you have talked about suicide

      • MB30SD

        Savage!

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Just looking out for my peeps. And yes I have been thinking about suicide, not committing it, just a couple of my friends decided to go that route around this time in the last several years.

        • Sahr Gborie

          damn bro. sorry to hear. its always a joke till it hits a little too close to home

        • willbest

          Thats rough. I know how that goes. One of my college friends checked out at 23.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Suicide = end simulation.

    • Sahr Gborie

      Thank you Modest

  • Sahr Gborie

    This draft was too easy. Maybe that’s why he screwed it up.

    He was not willing to trade up for Wentz or Mariota because the price was too expensive. But giving up:
    2017 1st RD #3pick, 3rd & 4th plus a 2018 3rd and the option of players available at 2017 #3
    for a clipboard holder is not too expensive? Someone explain that to me

    • Ron Swanson’s Mustache

      Did you see what Philadelphia sent to trade up for Wentz?

    • willbest

      Jury is still out on Wentz, he fell down to earth once DC’s got tape on him. He has the skills to rally. Mariota required too much of a commitment to Cutler PLUS he didn’t have his own scouts in place. I suspect that is why Lynch didn’t pull the trigger on Trubisky himself. He just showed up a couple months ago. Too soon to bet your job on a QB

      • Sahr Gborie

        What did the patriots asking for JImmy.G again? I ask sobbing

        • Sactowns#1

          Please don’t think about the fact that we could have easily drafted Jimmy G in the second round of that draft.

          • Sahr Gborie

            You just had to go there didnt you?

          • evantonio

            Meh. To me, JG is almost as unproven as MT. Yes, he had success in 4 games with the Patriots. He’s not the only Brady understudy who did that.

            But tell me which of those understudies went on to have success elsewhere.

      • MB30SD

        or he figured, fuck it, I just brought two guys in here who aren’t bad, and I have major gaps in my D, so the better plan is to get two new massively monsterous D day-1 disruptors in here while the taking is there… instead of spending all of this draft capital on some kid who I’ve only met once and is going to be a huge risk just by definition.

        I dunno, seems like really really really solid logic to me.

        • Gotta remember, Pace came from NO where Brees won a SB with a no-name D.

          That’s his blueprint, as opposed to the Broncos ’16.

          • MB30SD

            so you’re saying all the scouts saw brees in trubinsky?

            Cause I haven’t read that once. I’ve read bortles or cutler lite, or some other turrible QBs

          • Nope. Saying that’s what Pace is going for.

            And thus far Trub has been durable and only threw 7ints to 41TDs, which aint shabby or Cargo-esque.

            Dunno what Trub will turn into, but I’m not gonna damn him ahead of time because I pretend to be a QB master.

            QB is the one position that remains a fucking mystery.

            Trub IMO was the only prospect with all the prerequisites to become something in the NFL.

            Dunno if it he’ll become Carr or Gabbert, but sad part is even if he settles into Alex Smith, one Alex Smith is still more impactful than three Adams.

          • MB30SD

            maybe. guess I’m settling into just not giving a fuck

          • Sahr Gborie

            you got any room in that car for 1 more

          • The thing is you wanting a stud SS is like Irish wanting a stud HB at #3.

            Without a QB, neither matter. This ain’t 86 Tecmo Bowl.

            Pace knows finding a franchise QB is absolutely necessary in millennial NFL. Just the way it is. So he got two rolls at the crap table and is hoping for 7s.

            Pace calculated the Bears aren’t gonna be in a position to draft a stud QB next season.

            Maybe he figures this team will finish 7-9.
            Maybe he figures no team in their right mind will give up Darnold and Co (or it will cost too much, helluva lot more than some 3s and 4rth rders).

            Those are his calculations.

            Whether he’s right or not, we’re gonna find out.

            Said for a long time that there’s two basic routes to the SB.

            Historic D + decent QB ala Donks, Ravens.
            Franchise QB + hot D ala Saints, Puke

            Pace obviously is betting on the latter.

          • MB30SD

            sure, I get that and seems logical. Just really hope his picker is right

          • Doood. Trust me. I hope so too.

            I have reservations about Trub. I said that his Gruden stuff reminds me of a jabrone I knew who swam with his wallet. Not exactly a brain surgeon.

            But hey, Marino, Bradshaw…meanwhile at the other spectrum, there’s an actual rocket scientists that’ll likely go in the 7th if he’s lucky.

            Last year should slow all our rolls. I didn’t have Dak blowing up like that. Not in a million years would I have guessed him to become what he has. Even now I go back and see his interviews, and try to spot something I missed.

            Nope. No fucking tells. Just another QB spilling out the same platitudes 100s before him have. Can’t really tell what makes a person tick inside.

            Whatever it is, I hope Trubs got it.

            If not, at least we’ll find out 1 year sooner.

            And if not, Pace will be gone as well.

            Either way, there’s no more gray area. All-in.

            Sink or swim.

          • Bear46

            Pace may draft a QB high next year regardless. Stockpile QB’s and use one to trade.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Nope, I had switched trains to Watson. I knew he’d draft a QB. He had to draft one.

            I hope he’s right. He’s the one getting paid six million to be right.

          • Too Soon?

            So you’re saying that you:

            DONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN’T CAAAAAAAAAAAAAARE ?

  • BearDown100393

    All of John Fox’s thoughts regarding his new quarterback

    { }

    • Ososfan

      He’ll probably call him “Jake” like he did with Jay, initially. Lol

    • Irish Sweetness

      Mike’s our quarterback .. until Mitch is.

  • Pace presser. “The most important position in all of sports is QB, and I don’t ever think you’re a great team until you address the position, and you address it right”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd8e3anjXuM

    • “The ability to look around and keep his eyes downfield as opposed to ducking and running…translates well to the NFL”

      Why not Watson according to Pace.

      • Sahr Gborie

        basically no RG3, M.Vick or whoever else does that

      • Governerd

        I love Watson but I gotta admit he doesn’t wait long for things to develop because he doesn’t need to, at least in college. I wish him well in Houston but as the only team in the NFL we’ve never beaten, I hope to break that streak when next we meet.

        • And that’s the thing. Can Watson UNLEARN that habit?

          Ppl think “experience” is inherently positive, but if you have experience drinking a 12 pack every day for 4 years, is that positive? can that habit be broken?

          Pace obviously didn’t think so.

          And there were other more disturbing red flags, like not reading the left side of the field (Mirer anyone?), anticipation and arm.

          I like Watson as person and leader, and maybe that’s enough.

          But that sure wasn’t enough for Tebus, Young, etc…

          • willbest

            Kaep couldn’t. That being said Houston is legitimate a rookie QB wet dream. A D to cover you ass. A speedester in Fuller V. One of the best WR in the league in Hopkins, and a grinder at RB

          • And Kaep did make it to a few NFCC and a SB.

            Sometimes ppl forget that.

            Kaep is like one poor pass away from having a ring, and is now not even employed.

            So Watson can def succeed even if he is a lesser QB prospect due to circumstance.

          • willbest

            You can work with that kind of QB in the right system if they are athletic enough, and have the talent at RB and O-line to disguise his tells.

          • MB30SD

            so why didn’t we get kap and try to rehabilitate his little ego. shit would have cost a fucking ham samich and a coke right now man

          • Because we’re not a loaded Harbs team, and Kap is a bad QB.

          • MB30SD

            that’s not what his stats say.

            And at least he’s a known entity, not a dumb one year wonder from a shitty school in a shitty division.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He is NOT a bad QB.

            Lifetime 72-30 TDs-INTs. Rating 88.

            He won’t stand for a fucking anthem, and I don’t blame him. Fuck anthems, and fuck flags. All they do is divide people and call for blood.

            That’s why he’s unemployed.

          • Ososfan

            Happy that he landed there ma. Watson seems to be nothing but class and a hard worker.

          • Irish Sweetness

            The habit can be broken! Six packs, I mean.

    • willbest

      Definitely sounds like he wants to trade back.

  • Sahr Gborie

    Bears’ Mitchell Trubisky pick ‘indefensibly idiotic move’ says Skip Bayless | UNDISPUTED
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFhj8kA8QJ4

    Shannon points are reasonable. Ignore the other blowhard

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      yep he has always been the source I look to about QBs or any reasonable topic.

      • Sahr Gborie

        Just because you need a QB does not mean you overvalue the position

        • Ron Swanson’s Mustache

          If there is a position to overvalue it is QB.

        • MB30SD

          yeah, man… NEVER use bayless as a defense of your position.

          Not to mention windy shitty gridiron.

          • Sahr Gborie

            should have clarified. My bad. I was going for Shannon. He is more rational. Im not a fan of the blowhard. Should

          • MB30SD

            the dude who sounds like he’s talking with 30 marbles in his mouth… he’s also an idiot

          • Ososfan

            You kinda did Gborie. The hatred to Skip kinda blinded the fact that you legit told us to listen to Shannon. Lol

          • Ososfan

            Windy shitty gridirion. ! Spit my water all on my phone! Lmao!

          • MB30SD
        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          just because someone is on TV doesn’t mean you have to agree with them.

          • willbest

            This comment made my day.

        • Big Mike

          According
          to Adam Jahns of the Chicago Sun-Times, the Cleveland Browns,
          Kansas City Chiefs, Arizona Cardinals and Houston Texans “aggressively
          attempted to try to move up” and the Browns and Chiefs were reportedly
          “very high” on Trubisky.

          For those wondering why the
          Bears moved up just one spot to take a quarterback, the interest of other teams
          may help shed some light on why Chicago did what it did.

          • Pretty much what I said yesterday when ppl were losing their minds.

            GMs and draft days work by their own logic.

            It’s rare for truly out of the blue shit to happen.

          • Big Mike

            It’s a solid move in my book. Not the one I preferred, because it does little to improve the team next year, but it’s the only way to get on a championship trajectory.

          • Ososfan

            BM as much as you were with the lambasting crowd yesterday, you still had the composure to analyze the pick and be somewhat optimistic about it, you the man, Canada, and Bender as well, that’s why this is probably the best sports blog in the whole internetzzz

          • Big Mike

            Thanks. I’m taking heat from the crowd, but that’s ok.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Accepted.

            Now it’s time to be angry at him for trading down out of Budda/Obi.

          • Big Mike

            But he got our picks back. He wasn’t sold on going DB apparently. What do we know. 🙁

        • Big Mike

          According to the NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport,
          “the [San Francisco] 49ers did have a real and legitimate offer for
          someone to come to No. 2 yesterday. Bears offer was best value.”

          • willbest

            Get the player you want and a bunch of draft picks. I would rather do that if I were san fran than go all the way down to 12.

          • Big Mike

            SanFran has no QB now. They working with spare parts.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            they have Hoyer.

          • MB30SD

            THA DESTROYER!!!

          • Big Mike

            Oh yeah…. Hoyer SMH 🙂

          • MB30SD

            and we’re not???

            Dude, everyone keeps saying this. Our QBs have a combines 5-6 games in the NFL…. and snachise.

          • Big Mike

            We have a plan and our GM went out and aggressively got two guys. Like it or not, he has a plan for QB and executed it. SF passed on fixing their QB status. Hoyer/Barkley is shit and you know it. Did Pace pay to much to get Trubiski, I don’t know. Nobody does. Is it going to suck to be a Bears fan again this year? Probably. Could we have gotten better in the short run by taking any one of 5 guys? Absolutely.

            But Pace took the hard painful path of trading away picks to get his guy. The fact that he only moved up one spot is irrelevant. The fact that he (according to the chart) overpaid by next year’s third round pick, is irrelevant. The opportunity cost is built into the risk/reward when you take a QB.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He didn’t pay too much, he paid what he had to.

          • willbest

            They can pick up Kaaya and then bring in Cousins next year if there is nothing there. Plus no QB this year probably means they are in striking distance next year of one of the top talents.

            We are different sides of the same coin. We bet on the QB now and left the D to rot. They bet on fixing their D in a D rich draft and left the QB unresolved.

          • MB30SD

            I like the second version better, except we paid a guy 16M, soooo….

          • willbest

            We can go ahead and say 18 million because Glennon will not be a Bear in 2018

          • Big Mike

            D isn’t rotting. 2nd and 4th round picks can have an impact. It’s huge project turning the ship. Would cost just as much or more next year to move up to grab the first QB off the board.

          • Would cost more Mike. Much much more. Darnold and gang are gonna require the GNP of a small country, IF a team even entertains trading them away.

          • willbest

            I pointed that out a couple months ago. The only reason RG3 was for sale is the Rams had Bradford. So unless for example, we end up with the #1 seed next year. It won’t be for sale.

          • Maybe a team like the Bucs or Titans lose their QB for the season and they end up with the #1 pick next season, but again, Pacebot computes…not bloody likely.

            I don’t know if I would’ve gone the route Pace has gone (starting with dumping Hoyer and going with Glennon), but I get it.

          • Big Mike

            I can’t even pretend to know about next year’s QB crop.

          • willbest

            I can go back to last thread and find where you posted 3rd and 4th rounders don’t pan out so getting rid of them to move up 1 spot was a nothing. So really we just have our 2nd round pick to improve the D with.

          • Big Mike

            In comparison to getting a QB, I stand by my statement. With the 3rd and 4th round pick you’re hoping to get lucky, but realistically you are adding depth/competition. If you get a starter, you either got lucky or really sucked at that position.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            3rd round and later are usually STers and tackling dummies

          • Irish Sweetness

            And he fucking traded it away.

            Obi / Budda. Remember these names.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Sadly they got Beathard. Nice move Lynch!

    • Captain Obvious

      Welp, that settles it. If Bayless calls it idiotic, it was smart.

      Bayless is a fugitive from Bizarro world.

    • Ron Swanson’s Mustache

      First, I will not watch a second of that turd.

      Second, that makes me feel better about the move.

      He fucking sucks.

      • Ososfan

        OMG! I HAD NOT REALIZED HOW GREAT OF A USERNAME YOU HAVE! LEGIT LOVE P&R!!!!!!

    • Skip still wants his mancrush, Cutler.

      Can’t understand how Cutler isn’t on a team yet.

      Meanwhile, this is what the NFL gave up to NOT sign Cargo

      Bears :Chicago dealt the No. 3 pick, their third round pick (No. 67), one of
      their fourth round picks (No. 111) and a 2018 third-round pick to move
      up and take Trubisky, considered one of the draft’s top quarterbacks.

      K.C. traded the No. 27 overall pick, a third-round pick and their 2018 first-round selection to the Buffalo Bills to move up to No. 10 to select Mahomes.

      Houston traded up from No. 25 to select Clemson quarterback Deshaun Watson with the No. 12 overall pick in the 2017 NFL Draft. The Texans also surrendered their 2018 first-round pick to the Browns.

      So yeah, I’m not gonna lose any sleep over Skip Clueless’ opinions.

    • Big Mike

      Skip Bayless is useless.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Now I’m 100% behind Pace on the move.

  • Bender McLugh

    MB, Gborie & others feeling like this today:

  • 505Bears

    Pace is going QB in round 2. Trade up for Kizer

    • Sahr Gborie

      Bring on the pain

    • evantonio

      that would be amazing. if only for the headlines, and for Jeff who “loves a good story”

    • willbest

      Lets do this. Trade back, pick up a 3rd. Grab Kaaya and Petermen with it. We can use a 3 QB-3WR set. They can work on their lateral game and then launch it down to Wheaton and Merredith

  • Sahr Gborie

    Report: John Fox Was Unaware Of Bears’ Plan To Draft QB Mitchell Trubisky until a couple hours before.
    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/04/28/report-john-fox-was-unaware-of-bears-plan-to-draft-qb-mitchell-trubisky/
    guess fox is gone at the end of the season. next we will trade for sean payton. the hits just keep on coming

    • willbest

      Fox is an impressive improviser if you caught the link to his phone call with Trubisky right after the selection.

  • Cubsnlinux

    What channel is the Trubisky presser on?

  • arsmitty30

    #5 is my only real concern with this guy. Mr. Biscuit is RAW. Every scouting report says the same thing about him – loads of talent but still needs to learn. I hope Mr. Biscuit gets to learn from the sidelines for 2017. I know thats crazy talk in today’s day and age but this guy needs time to develop.

    • SC Dave

      That is Pace’s plan according to his presser.

      • MB30SD

        that’s my issue dave. in this day and age, if you take a guy @ #2 AND give up 3 picks he damn well should be a guy that comes in and starts right away (and has a shot to be a star as well!), not someone who needs to sit for a year or more.

        And what happens if the giraffe actually turns out to be good, like better than decent good. Sure it’s a long-shot, but what then? You just spent your first top 3 pick in 30 years plus three more picks and you’re going to end up playing the guy who’s doing well.

        Just too much cost and too much risk for me, for a guys who’s def not a consensus day 1 starter.

        • That’s a valid point, but look at the college landscape.

          How many NFL Os are left in the NCAA? How many of them are gonna come out “NFL ready”?

          College is going even more spread-read option, so true pocket QBs are gonna be a rare animal.

          I mean, there was risk with Mariotta for the same reason.

          Wentz came from a decent O, but from a smaller school.

          That seems to be the trend going forward.

          Unprepared QBs from big programs or “prepared” Qbs with much lesser talent or smaller schools.

          Winston, Luck types are only gonna get rarer, so I don’t think it’ll be uncommon for more teams to draft QBs and sit them. Just look at what the Chiefs did.

          The Rams tried the same with Goff.

          Maybe the days of sitting a rook QB are here again. These things go in cycles.

          • MB30SD

            i guess, but we’re going to be the major ones starting it (fischer was just a tool) back up?! Fuck that.

          • Chiefs are well run and are doing it.
            Elway did it with Lynch.
            Maybe the Texans will sit Watson this year for a bit. Maybe even sign Cutler as their cuck while Watson learns.

            Wilson Dak types who come in as rooks and blow it up are the exception, maings.

            Cousins sat for like 3 years.

            We all know the Vadgers story.

            It’s not unheard of.

            And for all we know, Glennon could indeed become Flacco.

          • MB30SD

            Lynch #26
            Dak 5th rd
            Cousins 4th?
            Vagers 4th?

            We’re talking a number fucking 2 OVERALL here yo.

            If we picked this guy in the 3rd even, I’d be waaay ok with sitting him

          • willbest

            Rodgers was drafted like #24, not 4th.

          • MB30SD

            ok, that’s 22 spots away from #2 will. simple fucking math god damn it

          • willbest

            Oh and Goff was drafted #1 last year. Also, Wentz was supposed to sit but progressed so damn much and Minny’s QB almost died.

          • Exactly.

            Philly had Bradford and that other dude ahead so Wentz could sit.

            But Bridgeater went down, and no way were the Iggles not gonna take that offer for Bradford, which pushed Wentz front and center.

            Drafting 1st round QBs and sitting them a yr will be norm again, like bomber jackets making a comeback!

            Some teams who luck into Luck types won’t have to do that, but betting that we’ll suck a yr before they hit the draft doesn’t seem like a longterm success plan.

          • SC Dave

            Rodgers was a first round pick.

          • MB30SD

            yes, will corrected me… many picks away from us. Not even close to a #2

          • Irish Sweetness

            It doesn’t matter where he’s picked though.

            The starter is in place already.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Steve Young sat. Aaron Rodgers sat.

        • 3 responses:

          1) You don’t focus primarily on instant impact when you’re picking #3. You take the guy who will have the most impact over the course of his career, because your job is to build a contender, not take a contender over the top. Know where the franchise is at.

          2) If Glennon turns out to be really damn good, who cares? They have their QB. THAT WOULD BE AWESOME, not something to be pissed about. But as of right now they can’t assume that, and like you said the odds are low, which is why they have to get a QB. The best odds of a QB being good are to get the best guy in the draft, and that’s exactly what they did.

          3) Every QB at the top of the draft is an incredibly expensive and risky pick. It is maybe once every 7-10 years that there is a “sure thing” prospect like Luck or Peyton, who are the only 2 in the last 20 years. But because the odds of getting a good QB are the highest with the top prospects (who go at the top of the draft), and getting a good QB is the most important position for an NFL franchise, it’s a risk you HAVE to take when you are in the position to do so and need a QB. If you always sit there and say “it’s too risky,” then it becomes a lot harder to get a good QB.

          • MB30SD

            yeah, you and I just disagree about the cost vs. potential equation.

          • Sahr Gborie

            i with you MD.
            a bust qb is a bust. nothing you can do to save them
            a bust line man/edge rusher/cb/safety can be a valuable backup. i remember a guy call shea mcclellin winning a super bowl a few months ago as a rotation player

          • Malice Halice

            Yea but on the greatest franchise ever bro. That’s like saying Washington winning with the 2000 Ravens

          • Sahr Gborie

            point is defensive players can be more easily salvaged than a qb

          • Malice Halice

            Yea dats 4sho. But a decent qb can get u draft picks as well

          • Sahr Gborie

            we are not the patriots

          • MB30SD

            what is it with you and using horrible examples gorbs?!?!

          • Malice Halice

            So u rather wait n miss out on a qb n grab what adams, Thomas or somebody on D. Check this out tho, our D will be better but our O is still in HUGE questioning. What’s the point in building D when yo O won’t be on the field more than 3 minutes at a time. We was never contending lookin at this schedule. DB n S ALWAYS available every year.

          • Sahr Gborie

            and what does Mitchell do for our Offense while hes holding a clipboard?

          • Malice Halice

            Nothing but bring hope 4da future man.

          • Sahr Gborie

            hope equals warm fuzzies
            warm fuzzies do not equal sweeping Rodgers, NFC Championships or multiple super bowles

          • Malice Halice

            Lmao yea man I hear u. I’m telling u Fox gettin canned n we rebuilding next year fa n draft

          • Irish Sweetness

            Guarantees its successful future and a shot at a Lombardi?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Or draft McCaffrey and watch his 10 snaps a game.

          • BerwynBomber

            Technically, I don’t even know if Peyton was considered “can’t miss”. He was, of course, esteemed to the max, and pretty much a consensus #1, but unlike Luck (and Elway back in the day) he didn’t check off all the tangibles. Lack of mobility being the most obvious.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            ” pretty much a consensus #1″ Peyton was not the consensus #1. There was HUGE debate that year about who was better Manning or Leaf.

          • BerwynBomber

            You and your Ryan Leaf memories …

          • Irish Sweetness

            He was a fucking choker.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Nah.

          1. Mitch isn’t ready. Everyone including Pace knows that.

          2. The support structure of 3 QBs has been put in lace before his arrival.

          3. He doesn’t need to start. QBs were never drafted and started until fairly modern times. They need time.

    • Barring injury or a meteor hitting Glennon and Sanchize, Trub will sit 2017.

      I just hope the Bears don’t suck right away for meatheads to start chanting for Trub come mid-season.

      • MB30SD

        see below though

      • willbest

        Unless he looks like Peyton Manning in the preseason I don’t want to see him.

        • Yup. Like most successful goals, discipline must be applied.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I hope he doesn’t look like Manning in the post-season ….

      • Irish Sweetness

        Glennon will go down, Sanchez can’t do it, Trubs will come in early because of injury.
        And get eaten. (shrugs)

    • Irish Sweetness

      Hence we signed Glennon, Sanchez and Shaw ….

  • BC

    Bears picked 4th in the 2005 draft. They picked a RB(Ced Benson) after having taken a QB in the 1st round the year before. Had they thrown darts trying to get as many QB prospects as possible, they would have ended up with a decent QB from Cal, I wonder what ended up becoming of him?

    Not saying this draft is like that at all, I don’t know what point I’m trying to make the only thing I know is that I enjoy torturing myself and others with these memories.

    • BerwynBomber

      In fairness to the Beloved, almost everyone passed on Rodgers.

      Btw, did you hear Gruden’s story earlier in the week about how Rodgers had the best pro day he ever saw, but Tampa’s FO nixed his draft preference and went with Cadillac Williams instead? Yikes.

      • BC

        Bucs could’ve kept their window open a lot longer, probably why Gruden never ended up coaching again.

  • BerwynBomber

    In terms of the internal Pace vs. Fox conflict the Trubisky pick suggests, recall that Pace’s reported pursuit of the Mariota pick a couple of years ago suggested the same. In fact, Fox would have been less enthused about Mariota than Trubisky, if only because the latter looks more “pro-ready”.

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog “I love ball” -Trubisky
    This guy is the anti-Cutler. He is 100% earnest.”

    Sets off air-raid sirens as the Luftwaffle appears on the horizon …

    • MB30SD

      love ball? to be balled? to ball?

  • willbest

    I changed my mind from last night. You can buy tickets for the 4th preseason game for like $10-20. I might consider going to that one.

    • Trub already brings back the fans!

      • willbest

        Well in 1 day Pace made that game the most interesting game of the season.

    • evantonio

      where do you get those tix? don’t bears sell them full price?

      • willbest

        They do, but the season ticket holders tend to dump them on the NFLticket exchange.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    I have been checking the news channels all day… The way a lot of you are reacting, I was sure that there would be riots in Chicago and Halas Hall to be burning by now.

    • MB30SD

      the measured voice of reason speaks…. listen to me estudiantes!!!

      SAVAGE!

    • BerwynBomber

      The anti-Glennon reaction seemed stronger.

      • Funny part is, this makes Glennon much more sympathetic.

        It’s like bizarro world where the backup actually makes the starter more popular.

        • BearDown100393

          Sanchez beats out Trubisky.

          • Ososfan

            Oh the humanity!

          • Joecashflow

            Call me Mr. Biscuit. Boom in da elevator.

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      those coming riots have NOTHING to do with the Chicago Bears.

  • DaCoaches Mustache

    How long before Cutler is a Cleveland Brown?

    • When does pick #486th finish up?

    • BerwynBomber

      Have to credit Cutty’s agent for getting those “Jay still wants to play” stories out there before the draft. Then again, maybe they would have been more effective post-draft.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        hmmm maybe that is the reason Houston and KC traded so much to get a QB. didn’t want their fans contemplating Cutty.

        • BerwynBomber

          And the Bears!!

          fucking around aside, I still thought there was an outside chance HOU would come around to him. But tougher to imagine now that they have Watson.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            we did not give up much.

      • willbest

        Brady and G go down. Hoodie brings Jay wins another Super Bowl. Front page of the Tribune the following day. Cutler arm around 2 time SB champion Shea McClellin

        • BerwynBomber

          If that were to happen my only wish would be that it would kill the Brady as GOAT or Brady over Belichick talk.

          But I doubt it would.

          P.S. personally, the Brady as GOAT stuff doesn’t bother me, but the Brady fanboys do. Come to think of it that is true of most teams and athletes I loathe. It is usually less about the team and athlete than it is their fans.

  • DaCoaches Mustache

    I picture Ryan Paces nutsack as 2 little replica’s of Ditkas face, Mustache and all

  • 505Bears

    Haha, I think someone posted earlier about Cleveland already having a TE. Even he thought so

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/browns-star-tight-end-welcomes-new-draft-pick-to-cleveland-gets-cut-hours-later/

  • Sahr Gborie

    http://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-hmS8CUAAAo91Y.jpg
    Cost of moving up from #3 to #2

    • willbest

      Wood brought up an excellent example of a team going from around 12 to #4 with like a 3rd rounder. And then there is the RG3 fleecing. We can try and put values on it, and even look at average. But draft picks are an exceptionally illiquid and sophisticated market. And it has a lot to do with the players in the class.

      For example, if there are like 60 guys that a GM thinks are going to have NFL careers with everybody else being a gamble, then 3rd round and beyond doesn’t have a lot of value. If there are 120 guys he thinks are going to have NFL careers then the 3rd and 4th round picks are worth something.

      • The last 3 trades (before last night) where a team moved up to grab a QB at top of round 1:

        -Washington paid 2 extra 1s and an extra 2 to go from 6 to 2 for RG3
        -PHI sent a 1, a 2, a 3, and a 4 to go from 8 to 2 for Wentz
        -STL sent a 1st, 2 2nds, and 2 3rds to go from 15 to 1 for Goff

        Trading up for a QB is exponentially more expensive than other trades. 3 mid-round picks is cheap, relatively speaking. MUCH cheaper than trying to go from somewhere in 6-10 range to 1-2 next year (assuming that’s even possible, ie team in position to get a top QB is willing to trade down).

        • Sahr Gborie

          i hear you JW. im starting to calm down the more i think about it. i just wanted to have a monster defense. CJ Beathard is still on the board

          • I would be happy if they took another QB in round 4 or 5. Odds are that it doesn’t pan out, but it slightly increases the odds of one of the guys this offseason solving the QB problem.

          • MB30SD

            jesus data, just jesoos christos man

          • It’s like Darth Vader man.

            Once the arm goes robotic, you gotta go full Darth.

            Once Pace decided to let Hoyer go for Glennon, the QB reach was on.

          • MB30SD

            Never go full retard man

          • Irish Sweetness

            Kudos to Lynch for getting him.

  • willbest

    Holy hell its 3:30 already. Mitch Trubisky has already cost me 3 hours of productivity and he has been a Bear for all of 20 hours.

    • 505Bears

      Call it a week and move on

  • BerwynBomber

    A couple of national guys reporting that we were bidding against ourselves:

    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2017/4/28/15474510/mitchell-trubisky-bears-49ers-trade-2017-draft

    • Ososfan

      They need the clicks. Fuck them! Bear down!

    • willbest

      Ian reported otherwise. Look if Pace had people feeling around #3 because he was doing the hard sell on Glennon and or Watson, then it makes perfect sense for him to move up to #2

      • BerwynBomber

        I have no idea. I was just tossing another log on the fire.

      • MB30SD

        “Michael Silver ✔ @MikeSilver
        Ian and I just talked. I am confident no one would have taken Trubisky at 2. Browns did not try to trade up to 2 with niners on clock… https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/858016073026854912 …”

        • Malice Halice

          Damn. So pace fucked up.

          • ButtonShoes

            That’s all Pace does. People shouldn’t be shocked by that at this point.

          • Malice Halice

            Welp we got a QB. I’d be happy if 4 other teams wanted him n we moved 1st to get him.

        • Irish Sweetness

          SO WHICH IS IT? FUCK!!

  • Joecashflow

    First we scream wtf!,then shock wears off…just a little. Then we rationalize, maybe rape isnt all that bad? Then we cry. Then we rationalize, Pace must know something. At that point, I want you to remember we gave up Martellus Bennett to the SB Champs. We gave up Brandon Marshall, whome had another all pro year. The facts are that Pace doesn’t know if this QB is the answer. He just doesn’t have the seasoning or negotiation skills to make a big decision and his Coach ain’t helping, or anyone of those 3 moves might have been stopped. Don’t want to hear about locker room chemistry. Coaches are paid to put the best talent on the field and deal with it. This was a crap deal and the odds are worse than 50% that a one year wonder will work oit. Josh McCown, Nick Foles recently.

    • willbest

      Those two got sent packing over attitude. Forte was sent packing because he wasn’t going to be a part of the future. Sometimes its not just about ability.

    • Brandon Marshall just got dumped again.

      Martellus Bennett was allowed to walk by the Patriots despite having zero cap problems and no TE depth behind Gronk, who is coming off another huge injury.

      Those guys have bounced around the league for a reason, and it has nothing to do with on-field production.

      • Johnnywad

        Shhhhhhh. You’re ruining his narrative that Pace and Fox are just too stupid to do football.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Brandon’s a FA??

        IS HIS PHONE RINGING?? HELLLOOOOO!

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Something we will be hearing a lot of in the next few years “Trubisky to BRAVERMAN!!! TOUCHDOWN!!!”

    • willbest

      Why do you think I am contemplating the 4th preseason game. I want to be there to hear the first one with my own ears.

    • Sahr Gborie

      such optimism

    • beninnorcal

      I was thinking the exact same thing yesturday. All these people who are mad, did they forget we have Braverman, a future hall of famer? Can you imagine what these two will do together?

      • MB30SD

        wasn’t he cut like last year

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          no, they just did not play him much in fear that the likes of Hoyer would destroy his all abilities.

        • Arbies employee of month, yo!

      • Irish Sweetness

        He’s a good little baller.

  • beninnorcal

    Did the Bears just move from 36 to 37? I just noticed that on the bottom line on nfln.

    • Big Mike

      Typo? or Joke?

    • BerwynBomber

      ESPN has Bears at 36 and JAX at 35. Why is JAX picking ahead of us in R2?

      • MB30SD

        trade?

      • Bears and Jags flip picks rd to rd due to coin flip.

        • BerwynBomber

          Ah, hell. Didn’t know that. Thanks.

  • willbest

    Apparently, the Chiefs ninja’d Mahomes out from under the Saints. So that is what not trading up gets you.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000803944/article/golfer-ryan-palmer-saints-wanted-patrick-mahomes

    • Yup. Saints another one.
      Wouldn’t be surprised if Gmen were in the QB mix somewhere, maybe Chargers with aging Rivers.

      • willbest

        Rivers is quoted being relieved the Chargers didn’t draft a QB

      • BerwynBomber

        Bolts had their shot, though (except w/ Trubisky). Instead they gave Rivers the best WR in the draft.

        • They could’ve been one of the teams calling the 9ers for Trub. And once he was gone, they went BPA.

          Teams only trade up for players they believe in. I’m 99% sure all teams had Trub graded ahead of Mahomes and Watson.

  • Puke picking ahead of us in the 2nd again. Vadgers likes us behind him, for some reason.

    Wonder if they go S, LB or Oline.

    • willbest

      That is their 1st round pick. They traded out of the first round. Which could work to our advantage if Pace goes and picks up the recently cut Cleveland TE

      • Barnowski or something like that?

        Heard he has major concussion/health issues.

        with Miller and our new TE, dunno if Pace would go there yet.

        • willbest

          Barnidge. The Barnkowski was an FF nickname he picked up because he was generating a ridiculous amount of fantasy points.

    • BerwynBomber

      CB, I believe. Their S’s aren’t bad: Dix and Burnett. Their CBs were god awful. Even managed to make ours look league average by comparison.

      Wouldn’t be shocked if they trade that pick again, btw. Still might be a QB hungry team wanting to climb up for Kizer.

      • Wow. Burnett still around? Guess he outlasted Major Wrong.

        S is deep, so maybe they do wait.
        Then again, there’s about 3-4 good CBs in the 2nd too.

        Robinson might be too tempting to pass up at OT.

        • BerwynBomber

          Did you notice there were three edge guys who all had a blow past Robinson and sack Bama’s QB clip as part of their brief highlight package last night?

          Garrett, Barnett and one other kid whose name I’m forgetting ..

          • haha. Didn’t notice that. I sorta flipped between ESPN (only time I watch it) and NFLN.

            Funny. Robinson IMO is more RT, which is what we were looking for anyways.

            I liked Bolles more, but he gone.

            Not sure Robinson gets past the Puke or Hawks though since it’s a rather shallow Oline class.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, I have no idea how he’ll pan out or what I think about him. But I did find that mildly amusing/interesting.

            I was watching ESPN. I like all three of their prime draft guys — Kiper, Gruden and Riddick. Could do without Wingo but was obvious he would get the gig once Berman was put out to pasture.

          • Yeah, I was mostly watching ESPN too, but I think later I switched to NFLN. Basically, whichever one talked about more Bears related shit lol

            The draft is about the only thing ESPN does right.

            I noticed Gruden playing bad cop last night. Like he was assigned
            to point out all the flaws of the prospects. Maybe it was ESPN’s attempt of keeping him from slobbering over everyone like he normally. “I love this guy!” Chucky grin.

  • BerwynBomber

    The Clowns apparently made another run at Jimmy G last night. The Pats told them to kick rocks.

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/19265283/cleveland-browns-again-turned-new-england-patriots-jimmy-garoppolo

    • That seems so weird to me. Jimmy is UFA last year. Brady has multiple years of fully guaranteed salary left. Are they gonna force Brady out and eat the money? Or are they banking they can put franchise tag on and trade him next offseason if need be, and just keeping options open until then?

  • willbest

    “Trubisky getting very charming as he gets less nervous. Easy to like guy.” – Jeff

    The ease at which Jeff went from Cutler to Glennon to Trubisky makes me wonder if he is vying for some sort of position as the Bears public relations department.

    • ButtonShoes

      Seriously. There’s no bigger apologist for this Bears regime and its gigantic mistakes than Jeff.

    • SC Dave

      it’s all because Trub looks like Pace’s little brother

    • BearDown100393

      This blog isn’t sponsored by the Bears PR Dept?

    • BerwynBomber

      He never went all-in on Glennon. Far from it. Cutler and Trubisky? Yes. He has huge man crushes on each.

  • King of DBB

    Pace can still Sonny Weaver this thing tonight, right?

    • Browns wanted Jimmy G.

      Trade them Glennon for next years 1st, their 2nd and 4rth.

      Bam.

      • SC Dave

        when Glennon makes the pro Bowl, you mean?

        then why trade?

        • Malice Halice

          Cuz we got trub. We could have the best qb tandem. Ever.

          • MB30SD

            hhahahaahahaha

  • Malice Halice

    So should we grab k.king a sticky finger CB or Buddha Baker the savage, or Obi the versatile S/CB n call it a night.
    OR
    Trade down to get some more picks n hopefully grab Baker

    • My 2nd rd dream scenario is trading down twice and picking up either.
      Malik, Wormley also still on board.

      • Malice Halice

        Wormley? Never heard of him. I’m down for Malik tho 4sho.

        • I just want him so I can say

          Big Worrrm!

          • Malice Halice

            My bad big perm.
            I mean big worm.
            Dudes a big mofo 6’6!

      • leftcoast dave

        Mine is to trade down as many times as possible.

  • Why would anyone draft Kizer in the 2nd? Dude is a mental midget. I liked that QB the Puke drafted in the 4rth/5th more than Kizer.

    I think Kaaya, Peterman or even Davis go b4 Kizer. That’s my bold 2nd day prediction.

    • willbest

      Irrespective of Pace’s decisions, I didn’t see Mahomes being a guy a team with Alex Smith on their roster would jump 17 spots to #10 overall in order to pick up as the 2nd QB off the board. So I clearly don’t understand the QB market this year.

      • Malice Halice

        Gotta get em b4 trump slams em I think. It’s great that we got a qb but I don’t appreciate all this “qb this draft ain’t all dat they might not go 1st overall” n we watch 3 teams 2 being consistent playoff teams reach for mediocre qb’s. I’m lost as well. If pace said he wanted trub fuck it take him. But the way he went about it is disappointing

        • willbest

          The question is, would Pace have taken Trubisky if he had the #1 overall pick? And if the answer to that question is yes, then he had to make damn sure #1 and #2 didn’t take him. And he acted like he would have. He paid San Fran not to take him, and he made sure Cleveland thought they could maybe find a partner to move up and grab him with so going with Garrett as the obvious choice.

          • Malice Halice

            Honestly I think he would’ve got him. Cleveland did great. But like I said who cares if da clowns don’t have O. So Miles n Co. will get exhausted n that D gone look like the Jags. Great guys on shitty team. Sf got a guy with questionable health n still NO qb.

          • leftcoast dave

            Wait, don’t they have Hoyer and Barkley?

          • Malice Halice

            Like I said. NO QB.

          • leftcoast dave

            Hey, I hope Barkley proves everybody wrong. But Pace still needed to clear him out for Sanchez to learn up the yoots.

          • Malice Halice

            Tru, bark got spark.

          • willbest

            They have Oz. Hoyer and Barkley are in San Fran

      • I totally agree. Mahomes was my least fav of the the top 3.
        Maybe I was biased from the Cargo experience, but he just seems too wild.

        It has eerie similarities. Trestman the “QB whisper” trying to remold a wild colt.

        Reid gonna try the same. Maybe he figures he catches Mahomes early enough to rewire his bad habits. He also has the luxury of sitting him for a while.

        In that sense, Mahomes landed in an ideal place.

        Reid is def one of the best QB coaches, so if anyone can “tame” Mahomes, it’s him, but I don’t see it.

  • Jeff linking some Twitter Trub film study. In sum.
    Big boy throws. Mobile. Accurate. Anticipates. Plus
    Lack of some technique/D recognition. Good (not great) arm. Negative

    https://twitter.com/NFLFilmStudy/status/818996895959879680

    • King of DBB

      His college completion percentage was NCAA record territory around 70%

      • MB30SD

        8-5?

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Elway was 15-18 in college in the 3 years he was the starter.

          • Irish Sweetness

            John Elway had the worst stats of any QB I’ve ever seen for his first 9 years. You would not draft or even look at John Elway based on his stats.

        • leftcoast dave

          Lost the most super bowls of any qb? Also played in the most? Can’t complain about Elway’s career.

          • Irish Sweetness

            You could say he sucked for 9 years.

      • That’s one of my personal QB thresholds.

        Gotta have close to 68% esp in this day and age of endless bubble screens. There’s further break down of which types of throws he’s accurate with, but needless to say, he’s a rather accurate QB (esp for only 13 games)

        His 5-1 TD-INT ratio is solid as well.

        Anything below 10Ints reveals good decision making.

        Willing to take hits shows grit. Looking downfield while running shows savvy.

        Pace wanted to trade up for Mariota and there’s def some of that in Trub (including the drawbacks).

        Hope it all translates, but Trubs got dem tools.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Gotta have? Kenny Stabler. Did he break 50%? Terry Bradshaw?

          None of those stats will mean shit in the NFL aginst NFL defenses. He’s been playing football against children. For 13 games. Total.

  • MB30SD
    • leftcoast dave

      Let dem foo’s laugh.

      They laughed at Donald Trump.

      Hell, they might claim they’re still laughing, but most are crying in their lattes and white whine.

      • King of DBB

        Cucks and snowflakes and pussies. All of them

      • Ron Swanson’s Mustache

        Yeah, Trump is working out great so far.

    • ButtonShoes

      Of course. When a team acts like a laughingstock, laugh at them.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Let them laugh.

  • Malice Halice

    Damn they boo’n da shit out dat man!

  • leftcoast dave

    Cheese for Cam?

  • leftcoast dave

    OOpps? KK the killer at CB?

  • Tortured Bear fan

    must be Cook

    • leftcoast dave

      Makes sense.

      • Tortured Bear fan

        kizer is another option but RB would balance their offensive

        • leftcoast dave

          They need more help in the secondary than we do at this point.

          • leftcoast dave

            Bingo

  • Malice Halice

    Fuk da pack!

  • Tortured Bear fan

    fuck I liked King…

  • Sactowns#1

    And so yet another opportunity for the Bears to embarrass me today. Oh joy!

    • Malice Halice

      If we don’t get who I mentioned earlier imma b PISSED! No weed good enough to calm me down.

  • Tortured Bear fan

    I won´t surprise if Pace trades back

    • Malice Halice

      He will. N all that’s left will be LB’s n Joe “right hook” Mixon

  • Surprised Hawks didn’t draft Cam themselves. Wilson has been running for his life, and they like the power run.

    For a 6th? Guess they weren’t that high on him.

  • Tortured Bear fan

    TRADE!!!

  • Ron Swanson’s Mustache

    There’s the trade down.

    • Who didn’t see that coming?

      Called it last night as soon as the news came out about him losing those mid rounders.

      No way was Pace not going to get them back somehow.

  • Malice Halice

    Cmon lamp or baker

    • Malice Halice

      Or cook

  • Malice Halice

    Pace ain’t no fuckin idiot! My guy!

    • ButtonShoes

      Yeah, he’s an idiot. Last night was proof enough.

      • Malice Halice

        Negative. Da man just drafted trub for a swap n loss of 3rd rnd pick. As of NOW that trade wasn’t that bad.

        • ButtonShoes

          Yeah it was. He gave up picks he didn’t need to. TRUBISKY WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE AT 3.

          • Malice Halice

            The world will never kno

          • ButtonShoes

            Eventually we’ll find out. Many, many years after the fact. When the damage has long been done.

          • Irish Sweetness

            You have no idea of knowing that.

      • leftcoast dave

        Pace told us he had a plan and he would execute his plan. He did. Trub cost less than what was paid for Goff or Wentz.

        The Rams gave up a 1 -15 two 2’s 43 and 45 and a third 70 plus 2017 first and third to get Goff.

        The Eagles gave up a 1-8 a 3-77, the 100 (low 3 hi 4?) Plus 2017 first and third to get Wentz.

        • ButtonShoes

          Pace gave up a 3rd, a 4th, and a future 3rd to move up ONE spot that he didn’t need to move up to in order to get his guy! So yeah, he’s a fucking moron.

        • 505Bears

          And goff sucks the big one and Wentz looked like he wished he was back at bumjack U towards late in the season

    • 505Bears

      He’s a damn fool. To idiot takes talent

    • Irish Sweetness

      He trades out of drafting us a stud safety … he is a fuck.

  • leftcoast dave

    Good for at least a 4. Over or under?

  • Malik the freak.

    Top 10 talent. Underachiever. 2nd rd.
    Bout right.

  • jab

    Moving that far back in the second for an extra 4th and a 6th rounder. I’m confused.

    • Ron Swanson’s Mustache

      Two 4ths

      • jab

        That’s great. Lose baker for them to miss on 2 4th rounders.

    • willbest

      It was only 9 spots in the second round. Picked up a middle 4th and probably a middle 4th next year. Plus converted our high 7th into a middle 6th

  • ButtonShoes

    There goes Budda Baker! Coulda had him if you hadn’t traded away those picks yesterday and thus didn’t need to trade down. Now he’s a Cardinal.

    • Malice Halice

      Me so jealous. He’s better with the card’s anyway

      • ButtonShoes

        I think he’d be better with us. But then we have a dumbass GM, and thus can’t have nice things.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Honey Badger and Budda. Fuck.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Nothing to do with yesterday. We had the pick to draft either Obi or Budda. We had that pick today.

  • willbest

    “So Pace got his fourth back and added a sixth. Trubisky now cost them a third. You people still crying?” – Jeff

    They turned their 3rd rounders this year and next into middling 4th rounders, and dropped back 9 spots in the second. But they did turn a high 7th rounder into a middle 6th round pick so there is that.

    • willbest

      opps I forgot. We are still out a 4th rounder in all of that. So no Jeff its not “Picks! Y’all love picks! Here are your picks!”

    • Irish Sweetness

      Trubisky cost a second, Jeff, and we just missed out on two safeties.

  • BerwynBomber

    Arians was sky high on Baker.

    • willbest

      I am likely to prefer Baker to whatever we acquire with our move back.

      • 505Bears

        Move back for 3 7th round picks and a Sprite

        • Malice Halice

          His bargaining is fuckin atrocious. Y ain’t he trade with the other team willing to give up 3rd rounder?

          • Ron Swanson’s Mustache

            What?

          • Malice Halice

            A team just did a swap n gave up a 3rd I 4got who it was.

          • CanadaBear

            He got a 4th and 6th this year and a 4th next year to go from 36 to 45.

          • Malice Halice

            Ain’t shabby, I swear we JUST saw a better swap?

      • Malice Halice

        I agree

  • Here comes the DB run….

  • willbest

    So its a deep draft for DBs and we have missed out on the top 10 of them.

    • Malice Halice

      It’s all about Trub bro. I GUARANTEE our next pick is O.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    weed bad. but let’s get this known PED user to announce a pick during the draft. thats about right.

  • Still some DBs left.

    Sydney Jones, a top 5 CB if not for Achilles. Docs say he’ll be full health come Oct
    Chidobe
    Taybor

    S Jones
    Evans
    Obi (if he’s ur cup of tea)

  • willbest

    Jets go double safety? ballzy

    • ButtonShoes

      Seems like they give a shit about having a decent secondary. It would be nice if our team thought that way too!

      • Malice Halice

        Pats still gone score 35

      • Ron Swanson’s Mustache

        Pace clearly doesn’t care.

        • ButtonShoes

          Look at his past two drafts and who he signs in free agency. It’s beyond obvious that he doesn’t care.

          • Malice Halice

            Pace is all O.

          • Ron Swanson’s Mustache

            I’ll be stunned if a CB or safety is not picked next.

          • ButtonShoes

            I put nothing beyond Ryan Pace.

          • The awesome thing about sucking is that we can practically draft any position, and it would be an upgrade.

          • BearDown100393

            Except QB and TE.

    • Bizarro Bears?

      Two safeties, no QB
      We have 2 QBs, no safeties!

      • 505Bears

        You call those 2 clowns QBs?! You jest

        • Malice Halice

          Don’t judge da book by its neck

      • willbest

        Is there a Superman movie due out this year. You have been favoring Bizarro the last few days.

        • It’s mostly a Seinfeld reference which I do ALL the time to MBs chagrin

          #honoaryTribesman

          • leftcoast dave

            A frightened turtle!

  • Malice Halice

    I’m glad MN ain’t get lamp nor GB

  • For you guys that are freaking out, there’s TONS of starters still left.

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/tracker/by-round#dt-tabs:dt-by-position/dt-by-position-input:s/dt-by-round-input:2

    • Malice Halice

      I hope so

      • This is the $$$ round. This is where you get specific studs for cheap to fit your system.

        And considering we have lots of holes everywhere, getting an extra shot at one is fine by me.

  • willbest

    Vikings seem to think they have found their AP 2.0 in Cook. Jumped up to get him

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      none of their RBs last year did shit.

      • BerwynBomber

        Last in the league in rushing.

    • 505Bears

      Mckinnon 2.0

    • Cooks is explosive. I don’t think he can last though.

      He’s def a wildcard.

  • BuddhaJoe

    Damn, I just read they traded back and that looks like a pretty good haul. Why are people pissed off?

    • willbest

      We run on emotion around here. the more the better!

      • 505Bears

        And whiskey

        • leftcoast dave

          Guiness and Newcastle

          • You guys are making me thirsty.

          • 505Bears

            Just like these pretzels

          • leftcoast dave

            Going for a Guiness Rye Pale Ale

          • BuddhaJoe

            Used to love those but then Michigan spawned a million breweries that are better. At least we’re good for something since the auto and furniture industries died.

          • leftcoast dave

            Just popped a Guiness Rye Pale Ale. Nose smells like cascade hops but not as bitter as a Sierra Nevada.

      • BuddhaJoe

        That was me yesterday, I was buzzed and pissed. But the more I think about it, the more I like it.

    • Because Buddha got drafted with our pick

      I was the one who first brought up Buddha in the 2nd long ago, but there’s other starters still out there.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      no one has any patience. need that instant gratification…or reason to bitch.

      • 505Bears

        Gotta hit that the first night

      • ButtonShoes

        Terrible franchises like the Bears do not deserve the benefit of patience. If you’re an organization that fucks up regularly, you do not get any slack. Ever. Until you genuinely fix things. And the Bears haven’t. And then yesterday they did something that could legitimately make things even worse than they are now.

    • ButtonShoes

      Did he get back his 3rd round picks? Did he manage to wind time back to yesterday and instead stay pat at 3 to take his guy instead of moving up to 2 and giving up picks he didn’t need to? No? Then yeah, people are still pissed off.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        quit being a whiny little bitch. not just you but everyone about a 3rd round pick.

        • ButtonShoes

          Sorry, but you don’t get to tell everyone how to feel about what happened yesterday. Then again, maybe I could take a page from your book and tell you to shut up and quit defending this trash GM of ours.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            The same trash GM that got us 3 starters in last years draft, and a QB going forward so far in this years draft?

          • ButtonShoes

            3 starters? You sure think an awful lot about Floyd, as if it’s a certainty that he’s going to stay healthy or suddenly put on weight that he never has before. And as for QB, yeah, taking a QB that has exactly 13 starts to his name and couldn’t beat out a guy who went undrafted for starting QB sure has me filled with a ton of confidence. A guy who’s never read a defense and had to have Jon Gruden tell him what a hard count was, because he didn’t know. Because he doesn’t know ANYTHING. That’s who you’re so positive about.

          • CanadaBear

            Let me get you a tissue.

          • leftcoast dave

            Dude, in case you missed it, Floyd got sacks and a pick six strip. Dude’s quick as a hiccup and will be da man.

          • CanadaBear

            Only real issue for me about Floyd are the concussions. If he can stay on the field he will be around for a long time.

          • BearDown100393

            Isn’t every player now a concussion risk? Cannot hold that against either a GM or player. At least I won’t.

          • CanadaBear

            I’m not. Just worry about the guy’s health.

          • willbest

            He had 2 last year. Thats a lot.

          • ButtonShoes

            He got himself two concussions because he doesn’t know how to tackle. So if you don’t mind, I’m going to hold off on declaring him a sure thing for a little while.

          • leftcoast dave

            He was the consensus top QB in the draft. Period, end of discussion. Nobody else went higher. Two others went off eight and ten picks later. Dem’s da facts.

          • Malice Halice

            How does a qb not know bout a hard count? That alone scares me. I like trub but dayum tho. Hard count brah?

          • BearDown100393

            Is it on the Wonderlic?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            why? it wasn’t used in his system in college, plus it does not take a rocket scientist to learn.

          • Malice Halice

            Right, so then, if so, who cares?

          • Irish Sweetness

            This.

            We all know something the other doesn’t. he’ll learn.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Never read a defense? Clearly you didn’t watch ANYTHING on Trubisky ….

            Leonard Floyd is a STUD.

            You’re a reactor aren’t you. React to everything based on little information.

          • SC Dave

            He went away for a while. Wish he would again.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Fuck the third, we needed a 2nd!!

      • BuddhaJoe

        Eh, he got a good chunk of it back with one move, and he got his QB for way less than anybody else did in the last two years. I was pissed yesterday too but I’m coming around.

      • Ron Swanson’s Mustache

        You have no clue if Trubisky would have been there at 3.

        • BearDown100393

          Concrete evidence that he was not is……?

          • Ron Swanson’s Mustache

            There’s no concrete evidence either way.

        • ButtonShoes

          There are a lot of people saying he would have been. And to be fair, there are a few that say that there was competition for the Niners’ no. 2 pick. Given what we know of this team, and how they bid against themselves to sign Mike fucking Glennon, I choose to believe that Trubisky would have been there. One pick. ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS WAIT ONE PICK. But no.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Because we lost any chance of drafting Obi Wan or Budda Baker!

  • leftcoast dave

    I did not want to see a QB picked with the three, I wanted to see a trade down. But as a fact, nobody traded up into 3-9 so even if Pace was on the horn trying to give that pick away, he wasn’t getting much. He would have had to take BPA who was whom?

    But that was never his plan, his plan was to get the best QB in the draft. He said he had a plan and he would execute it. And he did.

    Trubinsky was a steal. Bears got him for their second in the first, a third and a fourth. Last year what was paid?

    The Rams gave up a 1 -15 two 2’s (43 and 45) and a third (70) plus 2017 first and third to get Goff.

    The Eagles gave up a 1-8 a 3 (77), the 100 (low 3 hi 4?) Plus 2017 first and third to get Wentz.

    That was the price last year for the perceived best two. Pace got a great deal for the consensus best QB in the draft by fooling Cleveland into taking Garret and then paying up a fair price to SF.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Pace did have offers for the 3 spot, he said so.

  • Sactowns#1

    Well, I guess one good thing is since we don’t have a 4th pick after this pick we can all turn off the tv and start our weekend.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      we got a little ammo to trade up if we wanted to.

    • Malice Halice

      Yea my BM is pissed I’m watching this AAAANNND online witchu guyz

  • willbest

    12 DBs off the board. Saints go CB/S btw

    • Malice Halice

      I’m sure its been longtime since they drafted like that huh? All ways WR right?

      • willbest

        Oh I forgot their extra 1st from the Pats for the WR. So CB/OT/S

  • Malice Halice

    Can somebody explain y Philly hate da commissioner?

    • willbest

      Philly fans just hate

      • Malice Halice

        I heard it’s a jail n courthouse in da stadium

    • 505Bears

      Philly hates everyone

      • willbest

        Which is Ironic for the city of brotherly love

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      everyone hates the commissioner.

    • BearDown100393

      I think its great Goodell is booed mercilessly every 10 minutes.

      • Malice Halice

        It’s like watching Kurt Angle!

        • BearDown100393

          He should put on a Santa suit.

  • ‘Murica!

    And I take this time to show off that my nephew made the Rangers recently.

    U-S-A!

  • Fuuuuuuck

    That’s who I wanted. Deum.

    • willbest

      13 DBs in 43 picks. That feels like some sort of record.

      • Malice Halice

        We got none….. but we got a qb tho. Imma miss Buddha Baker I wanted that jersey in blue.

      • Said there’d be a secondary bum rush. Doesn’t surprise.

        The crazy part?

        There’s still like 4-6 more guys in about the same tier.

        A GM said that you can draft a S in the 3rd who would grade in the 1st in previous drafts.

        It’s a crazy deep secondary class.

        • Irish Sweetness

          And where’s ours …?

  • This Philly draft is making the Chi draft look like a knitting circle.

    These jabrones are pumped.

    • 505Bears

      Happens when you did 3 lines and balanced it with some meth

      • That is alarming specific, 505. Sure that Koolaid guy is high on punch?

        • 505Bears

          Let me tell you about my trip to Juarez….

          • Malice Halice

            Plz!

  • jab

    What’s the over/ under on another trade down?

    • BearDown100393

      We’re gonna own that 7th round.

      • jab

        We could get another 6th. Fingers crossed.

    • Wouldn’t doubt it. Though that would be reallllly gambling on missing out on starters.

  • evantonio

    he’s gotta go WR here, right? get a weapon for Trubs?

    • Ron Swanson’s Mustache

      Secondary.

      • evantonio

        Secondary to what? A guard?

        • Ron Swanson’s Mustache

          Are you serious, Clark?

          • evantonio

            Yes I”m serious. And don’t call me Shirley.

      • jab

        It’d be a reach at this point.

    • BuddhaJoe

      Gotta get a CB or S I think, that’s by far the biggest need.

    • BearDown100393

      Kicker

      • evantonio

        Left footed soccer-style kicker.

        Genius.

    • Malice Halice

      Joe mixon I think

    • ButtonShoes

      This team has needs at practically every position. They need WR, TE, S, CB, OT, you name it, they need it.

      • evantonio

        Equipment Manager.

      • evantonio

        ha. bet you didn’t see them actually going after TE there.

    • leftcoast dave

      OT Davenport

  • evantonio

    hilgenberg looks tiny.

    • 505Bears

      He’s like… The bears select…me?!

      • evantonio

        he sounds punch drunk.

  • ButtonShoes

    Applause for the little lady is great. Now please let her announce the selection.

  • beninnorcal

    What? TE?

  • leftcoast dave

    WTF????

  • Malice Halice

    I did hint at that position

  • ButtonShoes

    So we’re not going to fix the secondary. At all. While being in a division with Aaron Rodgers. Fuck you, Ryan Pace.

    • Malice Halice

      Trub made it obvious

      • ButtonShoes

        The guy they drafted at 2 that isn’t going to be a starter, and they’re already getting him weapons, even though he isn’t supposed to play this year. I swear, this fucking team.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      did you forget that we signed 2 CBs and a S in FA?

      • ButtonShoes

        Did you forget that those guys mean jack and squat when it comes to having security in the secondary? NONE OF THOSE GUYS ARE LONG-TERM BUILDING BLOCKS. They’re cut players that Ryan Pace salvaged off the bottom of the free agency garbage pile.

        • Cubsnlinux

          Yes, they are totally in the way of our 2017 Super Bowl aspirations. Fire everyone!

          • BearDown100393

            If one is rebuilding, shouldn’t we be rebuilding with better players than the incumbents?

          • ButtonShoes

            So you don’t give a shit about finding long-term solutions to our problems in the secondary, then? You’d rather do what Pace is doing, and keep putting band-aids on the problem in the hope that we somehow magically improve there?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            We were 18th in yards allowed per game and 9th in points per game last year. And that was with Barkley going on an interception rampage the last couple games. We upgraded couple positions in the secondary with ‘band-aids’. Not as bad as you think, especially with the injuries that piled up.

          • ButtonShoes

            The secondary is a tire fire. Aaron Rodgers sees it and licks his lips in anticipation. We don’t have one legit corner or safety to build around. And in a draft filled with talented safeties and corners, we have yet to draft a single one.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Where’s our free safety? And don’t pull that shit “Fangio doesn’t use a FS ..”

        Fuck. Vic. Fangio.

        Where’s our free safety ?

    • willbest

      Prince, cooper and demps was the fix

      • ButtonShoes

        In other words, they didn’t fix anything and don’t care to.

        • Malice Halice

          Yep!

      • Irish Sweetness

        Oh no it wasn’t …..

        • willbest

          How in the holy hell does Wheaton and Wright solve our WR void while Prince, Cooper, and Demps don’t solve our DB void? They are all the same tier of players.

          • Irish Sweetness

            WR is set

            Wheaton is your burner. Cam can do that too, but Wheaton is fast.

            Wright is a nice slot guy, good route runner.

            I’ve always loved Cam. he’ll get better. And then you have White, one of the best receivers of a recent draft, he should be good at the very least.

            But we don’t have a free safety. HQJ ain’t the guy, can’t tackle. Cooper and Prince are CBs.

            Demps was let go for a reason …. we’ll find out what that is soon. Hall might take time to work out.

            He can’t be finished at Safety. We’ve got JAGs.

    • Malice Halice

      I feel Joe Mixon would be great but hey

    • jab

      Pace is going to fix it with his 4th and 7th round picks so we’ll be shitty in the secondary again.

      • willbest

        We don’t have a 7th round pick so UFA it is

        • ButtonShoes

          Pace sure does love those UFAs. The lower the pick, the more he loves it, because of the lack of expectations.

  • beninnorcal

    Apparently we don’t have glaring holes in our secondary, according to Pace..

  • leftcoast dave

    Wow. Good humor.

    But he’s White!

  • Joecashflow

    Ashland University.. ????

  • 505Bears

    So now you believe the pace hate?!

    • BearDown100393

      In Detroit, Minnesota and Green Bay, he’s beloved.

  • SC Dave

    gonna be fun reading this shit later
    … got the next Shea?

  • 505Bears

    Didn’t they draft one of those last year?!

    • BearDown100393

      Its an annual deal.

  • Joecashflow

    Real pedigree. Ashland U.

    • beninnorcal

      DeVry.

      • BearDown100393

        Phoenix University Online

  • Captain Obvious

    K, now trade the rest of the crappy-round picks to move up and actually take a decent safety. QB, TE, S, and call it a draft.

  • Shaheen the Machine!

    6’6 270.

    Mocha mountain? How bout Vanilla Mountain?

    Sure he’s a TE? Damn.

  • BearDown100393

    Can a QB Coach be drafted?

  • Sactowns#1

    So in the most stacked draft for D they go with Gomer Pyle and an unknown TE. I think they’re just trolling the fan base now.

    • BearDown100393

      It’ll be official when McCaskey decides to bump ticket prices a bit more again tomorrow.

      • SC Dave

        Funniest thing in this thread!

  • Sactowns#1

    Pace is just so much smarter than everyone else. Don’t you guys know?!

  • BerwynBomber

    Pace thinks he got the next Gronk. We’ll see.

    • Irish Sweetness

      He over-drafted though, and he ignored a starting FS which we need more than a 3rd TE.

  • Sactowns#1

    Oh great. Another athletic freak. Those always work out really well for us.

  • BerwynBomber

    The girl was precious, inspiring and fantastic. But man, Hilgy was a painful watch/listen.

    • BearDown100393

      > Roger Goodell

      • BerwynBomber

        I don’t know. Even Goodell knew to the lower the mike for her. As someone said below, Hilgy seemed punch drunk. Who knows? Maybe he peeked at the pick.

        • BearDown100393

          Play 60 kid?

  • ButtonShoes

    So not only does Pace draft a TE when we need safeties and corners, he drafts a fucking PROJECT TE. ANOTHER FUCKING PROJECT.

    • BearDown100393

      He doesn’t caaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeee. Why do you?

      • ButtonShoes

        I really shouldn’t care, but it’s obvious I do. I’m just a sucker, I guess.

        • BearDown100393

          This is all apart of the plan………..

  • Malice Halice

    Baltimore get Joe mixon??? PR couldn’t handle it but they need a rb tho. We need mixon at this point

  • Sactowns#1

    Can we draft a new GM?

    • ButtonShoes

      Only if we can draft new owners.

      • Sactowns#1

        The owners aren’t making these idiotic picks.

        • BearDown100393

          They weren’t even competent enough to hire Pace on their own without an outside consultant.

        • ButtonShoes

          No, they just hire and enable the assholes who make these idiotic picks.

    • BearDown100393

      Emery declared.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Interesting Z. Miller might be gone. He has had too many injuries, especially with signing Sims in FA and now drafting a TE.

    • willbest

      I thought that brown kid showed promise. I know Harvard wasn’t a high pick but this seems like an especially quick hook. Meanwhile Hall and Bush seem to be safe

      • leftcoast dave

        Seems like Pace thinks he can be good there. Hall being an almost quick enough CB but long as 6’6″ with his arms can become one hell of a center fielder making up for many sins in front of him. I’m still surprised it was not OT or a trade back until he got an OT. Davenport still on the board,David Sharpe still on the board. I’d have preferred a trade down, thinking TE is tight already. But hey, Pace gets paid and I do not.

        • BearDown100393

          That might change sooner rather than later.

    • ButtonShoes

      Did anyone think he was a long-term solution? Miller can’t stay healthy.

  • BuddhaJoe

    Shaheen can be a beast, big guy with hands. They can break him in for the few games Miller is healthy before he falls apart again.

    • BearDown100393

      Because the Bears are super awesome developing TEs and trading them to Carolina.

      • BuddhaJoe

        Hey to be fair, that was only once, and that was because Martz was a stubborn bitch. That’s one of the many ways they failed Cutty.

  • Big Mike

    You rebuild your QB position and bet your career on it, so picking a TE with gigantic potential isn’t really a stretch.

    • BearDown100393

      Kevin White had gigantic potential.

      • Ron Swanson’s Mustache

        That pick was not a reach.

        • ButtonShoes

          But it was a bad one.

          • BearDown100393

            I dunno that might end up being one of Pace’s better picks in retrospect.

          • ButtonShoes

            White? I doubt it. Especially given what Vic Beasley has turned into.

          • BearDown100393

            Well after witnessing this draft, a literally busted Kevin White might not be the worst Pace bust.

          • ButtonShoes

            I agree with you there.

          • Ron Swanson’s Mustache

            In hindsight it hasn’t worked out. At the time, no.

          • ButtonShoes

            Beasley was there. And that was the guy he should’ve taken if he wouldn’t move up for Leonard Williams.

      • Big Mike

        That comment is really annoying. Yes he did. What’s your point. Do you think I don’t understand what unfulfilled potential is? All of these kids getting drafted are nothing but potential. All that differs is A) How much headroom do they have to improve B) Can they transition to the NFL game. Some guys come from DII and melt. Some it doesn’t matter because they have the heart and the physical tools. You don’t know. But I damn sure would bet that a coaching staff that’s interviewed, talk to a players coaches, teammates, watched film, knows a whole lot more than we do.

        • BearDown100393

          You’re awesome

          • Big Mike

            I’m not. I’m a grumpy old coach. Whose favorite NFL team hasn’t been to the playoffs in 7 years. I fight like hell to get inside the head of our coach and GM to understand where they are trying to go. I try to see the positive. But it has been damn hard these last couple days.

    • leftcoast dave

      No question we now have a kick butt Jumbo package.

    • ButtonShoes

      All Pace picks are raw, athletic players with tons of “potential” but next to no development. It’s fucking mind-boggling, especially since the Bears have long since proven they have no fucking idea how to develop players, especially on offense. So it is a bit of a stretch.

      • Big Mike

        Can’t say that about this staff. Floyd, Whitehair, Barkley, all of the DBs and WRs who had no business on the field. Cameron Meredith.. Bush.. Hall..Howard.. no credit for any of that?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Free Safety. Mike. We don’t have one.

      • Big Mike

        We have a lot of needs. Glennon likes to throw to his tight end. You can’t keep looking at what we didn’t get. This guy could be the best TE in a draft with a lot of good TEs. Lots of question marks. But Pace clearly believes he can polish some these diamonds in the rough. He’s drafting athletic guys and sacrificing experience. He’s saying here are some athletes that are good football players, coach’em up.

        I’m not going to play the look who we could have, or should have gotten game anymore, we clearly had no idea what Pace’s strategy was going in. We all feel a little hurt that he didn’t agree with us on prioritizing DB. But he made a call going back to signing Glennon that the biggest thing he wanted to do was fix our offense starting with the QB. So, ok. What are we working with. We got the first QB in the draft, we got our picks back from trading up for him. Glennon now cost us a swap of the 36th and 45. Next year’s 3rd for a 4th, a 7th and we moved back from our 3rd pick to a 4th rounder. Same number of picks just pushed back. Not bad at all.

  • Wow. I thought Mixon would fall more.

    • evantonio

      bengals, bruh. ain’t no thang.

    • BerwynBomber

      Conley didn’t either. Then again, it is CIN and OAK who picked both guys. They’re used to “characters”.

      • BearDown100393

        But hate distractions who take the knee.

      • At least the Puke didn’t draft him.

        • BearDown100393

          No they will trade for him and turn him into a HOFer.

  • ButtonShoes

    Pace is allergic to the idea of day-one starters. Every fucking player is a project with him. I can’t stand this guy.

  • Sactowns#1

    Real talk- is Pace in the klan? That’s the only way these picks make sense.

    • BearDown100393

      lol

    • willbest

      No doubt white, Floyd, Goldman were just to give him the cover to do this

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        in Pace’s defence he probably actually thought White was white, and Goldman was Jewish.

        • Cubsnlinux

          LOL

        • jab

          Now that’s funny. Well done.

    • BearDown100393

      BRAVERMAN!

  • Malice Halice

    Ok my grade for pace now is D+ only cuz we filled 1 fuckin need in the draft. I’m glad it’s trub but All the bona-fide savages r gone now. I’m appalled we just watch teams grab explosive guys n we got a lame TE. Mixon would be great or Cook for Trub.
    Man pace got alot of explaining to do even tho I see his theory

    • BearDown100393

      Pace’s answer is simple. It is part of the plan.

  • MB30SD

    was Obi still on the board?

    • willbest

      Yep

      • MB30SD

        fucking really… and he took a fucking white TE from some garbage school?!?

        • BearDown100393

          Why surprised at this point?

        • ButtonShoes

          Are you really surprised at this point? Pace has more than proven by now that he has no idea what the fuck he is doing.

          • SC Dave

            shut the fick up

          • ButtonShoes

            Nah.

        • BearDown100393

          He has awareness.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Does he jump out of pools, filled with molasses?

        • evantonio

          he still is!

          he’ll be there in the 4th!

        • SC Dave

          This season’s Howard!

    • I told you Obi would fall. – cokemachine
      Meanwhile, my man Buddha went high in the 2nd. Deum.

      • willbest

        He ain’t falling to 117 or whatever we have now

    • Irish Sweetness

      Obi and Budda were on the board man, Baker went with our pick, Obi about 20 spots later.

      • MB30SD

        Smfh. Some white TE from some D2 school. In the second?!? Absurd

        • Irish Sweetness

          Unreal. SMFH.

  • Remember when I said that Pace follows the SF blueprint on D, and Aints on O?

    Brees-Trub
    Graham-Sasheen

    3rd rd

    Colston-insert Slow big WR

  • BearDown100393

    “I really never even heard of the guy” – Ernie Accorsi

    • ButtonShoes

      If I ever see Ernie Accorsi standing right next to an open manhole, I’m pushing him into it.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Did ESPN even bother looking for this guy’s highlight reel?

    • BearDown100393

      They fired the guy who transfers VHS to digital so couldn’t.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Haha, ZING!

        I’m out celebrating my Bday, so I am trying to minimize the downer moments!

        • MB30SD

          fuck, happy 50th maings!

          • burntorangenavyblue

            If I were that old, I would be hoping to have enough money to ship the McCaskeys off to Kodiak Island to show them what real Bears are made of!

          • ButtonShoes

            Hearing that all the McCaskeys were shipped off to Kodiak Island and then devoured by bears would make me incandescently happy.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Happy Birthday Man!

  • So Cleveland.

    Fan. Noooooo

    And then there was 1…J-E-T-S

  • leftcoast dave

    I would have liked Kiser here too if we could have sold the three. First, that was not the plan. Second, nobody wanted to buy it.

  • ButtonShoes

    Browns got Kizer in the 2nd. Good value. He’ll need a ton of development, though. Wonder if the Browns can do that.

    • willbest

      Should have gone with Kaaya or Peterman imo

      • willbest

        Not that it matters, they will throw him to the wolves rather than roll with Oz like they should.

    • No they can’t.
      Kizer’s a buster.

      Where’s Tim Couch when you need him.

      • ButtonShoes

        I don’t have much faith in Kizer, either, but if you wanted to take him, the mid-to-late 2nd round isn’t a bad place to do that.

    • Irish Sweetness

      How is he good value? A dude is a good QB or not, you are not your draft position.

  • willbest

    Something tells me the Bengals got the RB they wanted while picking up extra picks to get him.

  • Is Morten sick? Damn. He doesn’t look well.

    • CanadaBear

      Yes. Big C.

  • willbest

    So the Packers got better. The Lions got better. And the Vikings got better. And we picked up our QB3 and TE2 or 3

    • ButtonShoes

      We’re the new Browns. This is par for the course.

    • BerwynBomber

      Cheese actually got worse in FA period. King’s a nice need pick for them but no guarantee he pans out.

      Agree about DET and MIN.

  • Oh shit, I forgot about the immortal Charlie Frye.

  • leftcoast dave

    Damn, these bitches are ruthless on Kizer.

    • ButtonShoes

      Well, he sucks. So….yeah.

  • MB30SD

    http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/adam-shaheen?id=2558144

    dude ran a 4.8 40. not bad for a huge dude I guess

    • willbest

      But he crushed the bench press

      • MB30SD

        hahahahahaha…. 24?! I can do more and I’m 190 dude. And I’m fucking old!

        • willbest

          But on how much training.

          • MB30SD

            I have two kids, a start up and I’m 44 yo. blows me away that these kids who’ve trained for this for the last 10 years and weigh twice as much as me can’t fucking put up silly numbers.

          • willbest

            Do they have 10 years? You think they start serious weight training at 12?

        • But you have T-rex arms

        • leftcoast dave

          And how fast can you run a forty or how far can you throw a football?

          • MB30SD

            back in the dizzy?

            Mid 4.6s and about 70 yards… maybe pace will draft me?

        • Malice Halice

          U can bench 24 reps at 225?

          • MB30SD

            sheet, back in the dizz I hit 315 for 15 yo.

            Now, yeah, if I trained for it for a few weeks. I usually keep my reps in the 10-15 range but heavier… it’s just muscle memory/endurance.

    • ButtonShoes

      Pace doesn’t give a crap. He just flings shit at the wall and expects us to thank him for it.

      • Ososfan

        Howard, whitehair, Floyd. Beg to differ.

      • SC Dave

        go back into the hole you were in.

        you’ve grown wearisome in less than a day

  • ugh. Taybor another one on my list.

    • willbest

      16 of 53 picks on DBs

      • willbest

        There have been 14 picks on RBs, WRs, and TEs combined

        • Malice Halice

          So alot of CB’s n S for next year FA? Muhfuckas gettin cut I know that. Not every fuckin team keeping they vets after grabbing these stud secondary guys

      • Chidobe, King and Jones still there. For now…

  • BerwynBomber

    Lem Barney — the original Neon Deion.

  • Scharfinator
    • ButtonShoes

      LOL

  • ButtonShoes

    “New Bears TE Adam Shaheen: “I’m speechless right now, but I’m going to be ready to go to work in the morning.””

    Of course he’s speechless. He didn’t expect to be taken this high. Apparently most people thought he’d be more than available in the 4th. But leave it to Pace to overdraft!

    • willbest

      He had to overdraft him. He wasn’t going to make it to the 4th and we didn’t have a 3rd

      • BearDown100393

        The same voices in his head that also told him to trade up?

      • Malice Halice

        Shaheen a tank! He might do damage dats a big mofo! Decent film. Huff D tho But he fits the part.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Had to. Fuck drafting a safety, I mean .. who needs em’?

    • jab

      That seems to be the common theme in this draft.

    • Ososfan

      Dooooont Care! He looks like a sleeper! Looks like a beast, get to work!

    • SC Dave

      hopefully, he’s this year’s Howard

  • Malice Halice

    As far as O was concerned BPA was Mixon with the pick we had used. How’s his film?

    • willbest

      Its hard to justify Mixon when he would be getting no more than 12-15 touches a game when we already have our 1st round not on the field this year. Then again by that same logic unless we live in 2 TE sets grabbing a TE made no sense either.

      • Malice Halice

        Excluding the D we got in FA it looks like pace is drafting a backup for each FA addition he got. Qb, and TE. So hopefully now we go all D now. I’m pretty sure. He needs that balance.

        • Malice Halice

          Correction. WR as well.

          • Malice Halice

            But we loaded on WR

          • willbest

            If Loaded is defined as not a top 20 guy in the bunch, sure.

          • Malice Halice

            I mean matter. We’re physically loaded on wr

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            you forgot BRAVERMAN!!!

          • willbest

            His FA WRs are to back up Meredith and White. though

        • Irish Sweetness

          All D … with JAGs, and low picks.

      • Irish Sweetness

        It’s hard to justify Mixon … when he punched a girl in the face and ran off.

        • willbest

          What should have done after he suppressed an violent attack on himself?

          • Irish Sweetness

            I think she hit him once, right? It looked very over-reactive to me.

            He’s a football player. She’s a chick. there’s no fair.

          • willbest

            The fair is jail time for any woman that hits a man, since 90% of us would have zero difficultly killing 99% of women.

    • SC Dave

      Fick Muxon… Howard is better

  • Obi gonnnee with the force.

  • BerwynBomber

    There goes Obi. OAK gets Obi and Conley.

    • willbest

      To pair with Karl Joseph

      • MB30SD

        deeeum. they’re going to be vicious

  • ButtonShoes

    Raiders take Obi. Coulda had him! But when your front office is filled with morons, you can’t have nice things.

    • ESPN essentially just called him a pussy and suggested he might move to CB cuz he’s not physical enough for S.

      Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane.

      • ButtonShoes

        Still a better pick than Shaheen, I think.

      • SC Dave

        fuck… make him a WR

      • Irish Sweetness

        Fuck . ESPN. In. The. Face.

  • willbest

    Texans actually need to address their secondary.

    • MB30SD

      fuck the texans, what about us?!?

      • BearDown100393

        Plan B

      • ButtonShoes

        We’re doomed. So let’s send some good vibes out to teams who need it.

    • GMs tend to provide their new QBs with weapons.
      And in a deep TE class, could see maybe Butt who they can afford to bring along slowly.

  • BerwynBomber

    Wasn’t a DBBer high on Cunningham?

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      probably Irish… or he was just high, it really is hard to tell sometimes.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Zach? No.

      Fkn safeties, Ber.

  • BearDown100393

    Do the Bears uh…. scout?

    • willbest

      not sober

    • ButtonShoes

      They think they do. I get the feeling they just play Madden and go off that.

  • BearDown100393

    So this is what becomes of John Fox coaching Senior Bowl?

    • ButtonShoes

      Look at it this way. He got to coach the Senior Bowl in the last year of his coaching career.

  • beninnorcal

    Anyone know what we got for trading down from 36?

    • willbest

      A bag of skittles

      • jab

        Or a bag of Shittles.

    • ButtonShoes

      A fourth rounder, a fourth rounder next year, and a swap of our 7th rounder for a 6th. And Shaheen, a project TE.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Fucked in the secondary.

  • If Kapssognan was white, he’d be on the Bears.
    6’6 290 DE project from Villenova

    • willbest

      he majored in accounting?

      • SC Dave

        figure he has some brains at least.

        you know, relative to lawyers anyway

        (sorry, too easy)

  • Ososfan

    I really like this pick! Looks like Baby Gronk. Granted, against D2 talent…

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      big target in the endzone.

      • Malice Halice

        HUGE

    • I think he’s actually BIGGER than Gronk.

      6’6 280. That’s a lot of corn

    • ButtonShoes

      The key there is “D2.”

    • jab

      Why did they pay all that money for Simms? Thought he’d be the big target.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        because they are cutting Miller

        • jab

          So they’re going to cut Miller and start a D2 prospect?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            yep. he had another Lisfranc fracture in his foot. I doubt the Bears want him back at his age.

          • ButtonShoes

            Miller being let go was inevitable. Just can’t stay healthy. Though that’s still no excuse for drafting a project TE that played D2 football.

  • willbest

    I will make my predictions for tomorrow now I guess.

    4th round – OT
    5th round – WR
    6th round – Punter
    6th round – DL

    • Ososfan

      OLB for 3-4 D’s is pretty deep actually man. I think we get a eventual starter in the 4th and WR in the 5th.

      • ButtonShoes

        An eventual starter. Sigh. Par for the course with this team.

        • Ososfan

          Lol. Gotta have some optimism… Uugggh

      • willbest

        I messed up. We have 2 4ths and 1 6th, but I stand by my position predictions, because it makes as much sense to me as what we have done so far.

      • Irish Sweetness

        DUDE!!! Lawrence Taylor is not in the 6th round! HE’s NOT!!

        The draft was pooched. We got our QB, but the rest got pooched!!!

        • Ososfan

          :/

    • leftcoast dave

      OT, ILB, Secondary, ???

    • jab

      I’m thinking it will go like this.
      4th – kicker
      4th- punter
      5th- trainer
      6th- water boy.

      • willbest

        If its the Adam Sandler version, I would be down.

    • Irish Sweetness

      4th round – waste
      5th round – waste
      6th round – waste
      6th round – waste

      2nd round – Obi Melifonwu. That is all.

      Edit:

      Aaaand he passed.

  • There goes Chidobe Awuzie nigerian pornstar cosmonaut down from the Russian Space station for the draft.

    • willbest

      I want to believe you didn’t make that up.

  • ButtonShoes

    What did that ESPN douche say? Peckers fans are nice? Does he know any? Because if he did, he wouldn’t say that.

    • Malice Halice

      N their low key racist

  • Sheeet.

    King, Jones.

    For Puke, not Bears.

    • ButtonShoes

      It’s the difference between a team that knows how to draft and a team that doesn’t.

    • willbest

      Pack are serious about stopping Dak, Matty Ice, and Wilson.

      • Malice Halice

        Definitely not wurred by us! Smh

        • SC Dave

          they wont stop Howard

  • MB30SD
    • Can tell he played some Bball. Not stiff for a 6’6 280 dude.

      #OilyHips

      • MB30SD

        oily! looked like a coke machine to me

  • Ron Swanson’s Mustache

    Pace clearly has some leash. Going for huge upside. Going to be brilliant or a dumpster fire.

    • leftcoast dave

      We now have the biggest arsed Jumbo package in the league. Can you say, run first offense?

      • Irish Sweetness

        Had we drafted Fournette, you could do that.

  • How can a dude from L.A. named Ju-Ju Schuster NOT be part of the tribe?

    • willbest

      I think that is a case where its just too over the top that it wouldn’t be legit if he were.

  • willbest

    I think I will hang around to see what the 9ers do with our pick and then go shoot some virtual badguys.

    • MB30SD

      why virtual when you can wire up to the innerness and try to kill GP, shady, and me.

      • willbest

        You would still be virtual.

        • MB30SD

          yes, but I assumed you aren’t playing real peeps

          • willbest

            I do pvp about 20% of the time. Though at present I am gearing my guy in destiny so I can step foot into the pvp area without getting my ass spanked.

          • Irish Sweetness

            One game, dude. Since 2010. World Of Tanks. All I play.

      • You’re not tired of Shady killing you yet?

        • MB30SD

          sheeeeit, that punkass gets fucked up by me juuuuuust as much

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            sure keep telling yourself that.

          • MB30SD

            Savage!

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            what is with the ‘Savage’ comment lately?

          • MB30SD

            you are savage with your comments. It’s your new nickname

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            ok. I figured it was a new hip term one of your 22-23 year old honeys got you using.

          • MB30SD

            naaaah, although sometimes they throw some shit out and I’m like, wha?

            the text acronyms kill me. wyd?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            LOL! you got to google to find out don’t you.

          • MB30SD

            some, hate that shit. I’m a words/language guy so not a fan

          • willbest

            I realized I was old, when I started having to use urbandictionary on regular basis

          • Sahr Gborie

            lol…..i know the feeling

          • Irish Sweetness

            Would You Die?

          • MB30SD

            What you doing. : /

          • Irish Sweetness

            What’s the response to that?

            NM?

          • MB30SD

            Wfytcoasmc

          • King of DBB

            I p0wn them both

          • MB30SD

            hahahaha… jjjjjjjetpucks

          • SC Dave

            oh gawd… that’s so 2000s

            my son used that shit in middle school

  • And with the 2nd pick of the 2017 draft, the Bears select Adam ‘better luck next year on Da contest’ Sasheen, Go Fuck YoSelf U, TE.

  • ButtonShoes

    This guy…I think I love this guy:

    John Marston‏ @SowaTheArrogant

    “The most obnoxious fan is the one who talked themselves into what the Bears did and now they’re talking down to people about it”

    “You know damn well why everyone is mad shut the fuck up”

    • Ron Swanson’s Mustache

      That guy is a douche.

  • willbest

    Traded our pick to the Saints they did

  • ButtonShoes

    Lynch has been more impressive of a GM in 2 days than Ryan Pace has been in 2 years.

    • willbest

      Pace turned in a solid draft last year. But Lynch’s first draft looks miles better than Pace’s

      • SC Dave

        well, Pace didnt have Pace to fleece

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      since you seem to hate just about everything involving the Bears, I looked up a 49ers blog for you to start following. Might make you a little happier.

      http://ninernoise.com/

      • Heard Romania is beautiful this time of yr…

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          A friend of mine told me spring time in Syria is really nice.

  • King of DBB

    The NFL is seeing what it caused. The rule changes to feather touch the wideouts mean this whole draft is everybody grabbing DBs and more DBs. You need to run through them like kindling wood looking for the handful of guys that have that extra .1 sec on reaction times and movement.

    • willbest

      solid theory

    • It’s also the result of the mickey mouse Spread-Red Raider shit in college.

      It’s producing better CBs and S and worse NFL Qbs.

      • King of DBB

        Speaking of that the panel ripped Kizer a new asshole over his “best evah” screed.

        • As they should.
          Browns have the uncanny gift of choosing the absolute QB bust in every draft.

          Surreal.

          • King of DBB

            RG3 is like “I’m unemployed but he’s not?”

          • “I have the brain of Vince Young combined with the legs of RG3!”

      • jab

        Air raid, but you’re absolutely right.

    • SC Dave

      speaking of running through them, we have Jordan Howard

      • Irish Sweetness

        Until he’s injured. Then we have nobody.

  • willbest

    Saints grab Alvin Kamara RB with our pick. Somehow that makes me feel better about not having it.

    • At this point, they’re all about the same tier till like the mid 4rth.

      Now it’s just about filling needs for most teams more than BPA.

    • BerwynBomber

      Saints being the Saints. Worst D in the league last year and half their picks have been on the O side of the ball.

      Note to Saints: scoring points is not your team’s problem.

    • Irish Sweetness

      We had him in for a visit. And that pick should have been spent on a safety.

      In Pace we trust? Fuck this.

  • BerwynBomber

    SF takes AD’s guy Witherspoon. I liked his highlight tape but tough to judge completely from highlight tape.
    Kiper called him one-dimensional. No run support/can’t tackle.

  • Ron Swanson’s Mustache

    Building for 2019. I recommend everyone prepare to be patient.

    • King of DBB

      How does John Fox feel right now?

      He knows this is his last year, and his first round pick won’t even see the field the whole season. For the second time in three years.

      • jab

        That’s probably why he had no idea that Trubisky was their first pick. He’ll get fired and Pace will keep his job until they see what Trubisky does.

      • He feels as numb as his legs after a long fiber fueled dump

      • BerwynBomber

        Vic Fangio probably doesn’t feel a ton better.

        • Irish Sweetness

          That’s from having NO BALLS.

      • Irish Sweetness

        With no safeties or pass rush.

        Our defense will suck again.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Bears were 12th in sacks last year.

      • AlbertInTucson

        “How does John Fox feel right now?”

        Maybe something like a Bob Newhart style 1/2 phone conversation…

        Fox: “Hello, George?

        It’s John…

        Fox…

        John Fox.

        Your Head Football Coach, John Fox.

        Yes, THAT guy.

        Oh, not too bad , considering.

        Sorry to bother you, George.

        Is she hourly or do you have her all night?

        Never mind. I won’t keep you long.

        Just want to say thanks for the money and you just might as well pay me off now and let me go because after that draft nonsense I am putting it on cruise control as far as coaching your football team goes.

        What’s that?

        Don’t want to pay me off, In FULL?

        NO PROBLEM!

        Trubisky can watch Glennon all pre-season, then, Mitchy starts week 1 against the Falcons.

        What?

        Yes, I knows he prefers ‘Mitchell’.

        But, I prefer ‘Mitchy’.

        Trust me, he’ll get sick of it, er, I mean, used to it.

        At least I’m giving you the courtesy of letting you know MY plans.

        Huh?

        What?

        Oh.

        You leave the money on her pillow.

        Have a nice evening, George.”

    • willbest

      I guess a 5 year plan worked for the Cubs right?

      • Ron Swanson’s Mustache

        I’m a Cubs fan so I know patience. The first two picks are not about winning this year or even next.

    • MB30SD

      no thanks. call me when they put out a decent fucking product.

  • Queens getting serious about returning to ground an pound.

    With Bradford at QB, makes sense.

  • MB30SD

    rome on our pick….

    ‘SF turned them inside out’: http://jimrome.com/2016/10/25/mitch-trubisky/

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      i did not know Jim Rome was still alive.

    • Ron Swanson’s Mustache

      I’d like to put Jim Rome, Skip Bayless, and Stephen A Smith in a room and have them fight to the death. And then the winner is eaten by a Bear.

      • MB30SD

        I would so fucking pay to see that!

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          it could save ESPN from its decline.

          • MB30SD

            possibly

          • King of DBB

            as long as Joe Rogan gets thrown in there

          • Irish Sweetness

            Covered in blood and sauce.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yes please and I’ll pitch in for the Bear.

      • AlbertInTucson

        There isn’t a room big enough to fit all 3 of those egos.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Oh yes.

        I’ve just watched Grizzly Man again, and that would be terrific.

  • BerwynBomber

    Compensatory picks start this round.

  • King of DBB

    Man the Ravens are fucking reloading that D

    #HowItsDone

    • BerwynBomber

      SF too

      • MB30SD

        love what SF has done

        • ButtonShoes

          Lynch is a smart one.

    • ButtonShoes

      Ravens are a smart club. Complete opposite of us.

  • King of DBB

    Was there really any place else Joe Mixon should have gone besides the Bengals?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vimZj8HW0Kg

  • evantonio

    do you trade one of our 4ths to the Jets for Calvin Pryor?

    • jab

      No, but I’d trade it for Sheldon Richardson.

    • Irish Sweetness

      No. no you do not. You stay put in 2 and draft Obi or Budda. But Ryan knows better. Again.

  • willbest

    Just checked in and saw the Pats traded their first pick #72 away. Looks like they just decided to say fuck this year

    • MB30SD

      yeah, fuck this year….s draft. We don’t need it… we’re going to fuck people up without that shit.

      #chesswhenerraoneelseplayscheckers

  • MB30SD

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    Niners will win 4 games.

    THIS year… give em another year of fleecing cucks like us in the draft and they’ll start killing people. They’re starting from ground zero… and I hate those fucks.

    • King of DBB

      They goin Hoyah the Destroyah over Gabbart, and then the sky is the limit.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WJ6FbcWYRU

    • Malice Halice

      They winning 4 (1 of em is us) so da bearz only winning 1 game.

    • ButtonShoes

      That’s 2-4 more games than we’ll win this season. So don’t be smug, Jeff.

  • SC Dave

    bucs O starting to look scary

  • willbest

    Now the pats move up?

  • SC Dave

    garcia from Troy wins the lottery

    super bowl rings. only have to make the team

  • willbest

    “Packers. Now shut up.” – Jeff

    Not this year. Kevin King is going to start for them. And last year they drafted starters too.

    • jab

      He’ll start, but I’m glad they took him over Dalvin Cook. Their offense would be super scary with that kid.

      • Malice Halice

        So u think he ain’t gone do shit wit da vikes? Man were gettin our ass HANDLED on both sides of da ball. By erbody! Can u imagine us turning da ball over to all da new draft acquisitions that we COULD’VE HAD! We gotta face ALOT of hotshots dis year!

        • SC Dave

          Glennon will be NFL MVP.

          and we’ll hate Pace more, for some idiotic reason

          • ButtonShoes

            Glennon will be a bum. Which isn’t new for him, because he already is. And Pace will deservely get more hate for it. Which is good! Let the hate flow through you, Bears fans. It is the only path for us to take until the McCaskeys sell.

          • Malice Halice

            I can’t feel hate towards the bears no mo. Ryan Pace gone received a tape on some 13 reasons why shit. Hahaha it’s just gonna be tough to watch those guys shit on us knowing we could’ve had 1/4 of em

          • jab

            You must be a packers fan. I’m negative about the picks, but your comments are reaking of a troll.

          • ButtonShoes

            Die-hard Bears fan through and through. But I’m sick of the complete incompetence of this team, especially over the past 3 decades. And the reason why they stink is obvious: it goes all the way to the top, to ownership. I want that changed more than anything.

          • Cubsnlinux

            Why the hate if Glennon turns a bum? What was the low hanging fruit that Pace didn’t pick?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Kap. For free.

            Not cutting Jay Cutler.

            He could have gone a few ways, but this is all history.

            It’s the baby-faced assassin for now.

          • King of DBB

            Is that you Barb?

          • SC Dave

            No. Barb was never that tiny a bitch.

          • Irish Sweetness

            So … follow the dark side .. .forever?

          • Malice Halice

            If Glennon do great, Pace Parade commenced. Hands down, the D will be relieved next FA guys will play with us. Even if we only win 1 game our draft would be great to add. Cuz obviously pace is great grabbing O guys

          • MB30SD

            You hug that little dream so so tight dave

          • SC Dave

            Its just my form of trolling. MB

          • MB30SD

            Oh stop that you little minx

        • jab

          Vikings don’t have Rodgers throwing the ball. With Cook running the ball I think they would have been unstoppable.

          • Malice Halice

            Yea but it’s still a Murray/cook tandem tho.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Murray?

          • Without a QB, then a team just becomes like the Rams last yr with Gurley.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Ty Montgomery is super scary to me already.

  • King of DBB

    MB –

    You and Fieri should hang. He hates the deep dish too.

    https://youtu.be/trRc1_CATfo?t=1117

    • MB30SD

      Hahaha… Always thought that dude was a serious tool, but he kicked the shit outta that challenge like nothing was happening… And his message at the end was great. Nice work guy!

  • Cubsnlinux

    Just watched some highlights of Shaheen. Good luck tackling him NFCN!

    • Malice Halice

      4SHO! I got high hopes 4 him. 4.79 at 270 wit sticky Fingas!

  • King of DBB

    Jay moves to Nashville, Kristin has to inform the press so they will do a piece on it

    http://people.com/home/kristin-cavallari-moving-nashville-jay-cutler/

    • BerwynBomber

      Still think his ideal gig would have been backing up Mariota this year. Semi-ironic in that the guy TEN chose for that role — Cassel — was a big part of the reason Cutler ended up with us 8/9 years ago.

  • King of DBB

    It’s nice to know the Bears PR department is as inept as the rest of the org.

    The had Trubisky come out at halftime at the Bulls game and he got the crap booed out of him. Well played Bears – well played.

    • Cubsnlinux

      Yes, it’s the Bears PR and not the stupid dumb Chicago Bulls fans taking all their hate for GarPaxDorfBerg on a draft pick who hasn’t played a single game yet.

      • King of DBB

        I’m glad we see it the same way.

        Bears PR had no business putting that kid in that situation. They needed only to look at the mood on social media to know that the city was very unhappy.

        • Cubsnlinux

          I bet a lot of that angst came from watching a pathetic performance from their favorite team. If the Bulls were winning in an alternate universe the cheers would have drowned a few boos or so I would expect.

          • BerwynBomber

            Poor Bulls. They would have won that series but for the Rondo injury. But maybe — long-term — it’s for the best. Fred can’t coach. And GarPax need to go.

          • Cubsnlinux

            I am glad the shit storm ended. If Bears fans are mad at Ryan Pace I shudder to imagine how they would feel with GarPax. Gar Forman is the worst with Hoiberg his parallel in the coaching world. Bulls are a dumpster fire and the owner doesn’t give a Meerkat dump.

          • BerwynBomber

            I’d argue Reinsdorf indeed cares. You can argue he is still the second best owner in CHI sports history — though Wirtz Jr and Ricketts are now in the running — but he’s blinded by loyalty. John Paxson, Kenny Williams, Robin Ventura, etc.

            Ventura was one of the worst baseball managers I’ve ever seen yet Reisndorf kept him forever. Why? Because Ventura is “family”. SMFH.

          • AlbertInTucson

            The Sox took over first place in the A.L Central tonight.

            Who-hoo!

            And they are 3 games over .500,

            Precisely 3 more than I expected to ever see this season.

            Enjoy the moment.

            It figures to be brief.

          • BerwynBomber

            Oddly enough, I’d prefer we were losing while seeing development among the youngsters — I want high draft picks at the end of year and more trades involving the unloading of veterans. Yup, the Cubs template. Cubs hit nearly everything which I don’t think can be duplicated, but it is nonetheless a smart plan.

            Btw, can’t help but read this (thus far) as Renteria (a professional manager) vs. Ventura (a guy who might have struggled a college team). Hence, our surprising record.

          • ButtonShoes

            The funny thing about that is that it would serve the White Sox to tank right now. Winning right now only hurts their rebuild.

          • CanadaBear

            I’ve got to say I thought Renteria did a nice job with the Cubs. The kids played hard for him, he held them accountable and never lost his shit being put in a tough situation. Not to mention, he handled his firing with as much class as possible. Esp considering the circumstances. Doesn’t hurt having a bilingual mgr.

          • ButtonShoes

            Reinsdorf cares about making a buck. Winning championships in basketball? He couldn’t give a flying shit.

          • CanadaBear

            In life loyalty is very important. In business, not so much. Ozzie would still be there if he hadn’t lost his mind.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Are Bulls fans not all Bears’ fans, per se?

          • BerwynBomber

            Mostly. Bulls losing didn’t help, but as Butch suggested, the Trubisky pick is getting murdered in polls and social media here.

            2/3 of the city were against it. Basically, you could have put Trubisky in any CHI sports team’s game and he would have been booed.

          • ButtonShoes

            I bet you the Trubisky pick would have been viewed much more positively if Pace hadn’t traded back one spot to get him. Most people think that he could’ve taken Trubisky at 3. And I’m one of ’em.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He removed the ‘could have’ using next year’s third rounder – which as Mike graciously showed, doesn’t mean much for us.

            I think you do it for Watson, but you probably do it for Mitch.

            Have to bake Mitch a little longer.

            Ryan did okay. Pooched Day Two, but he did okay on day one.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Then we know he probably got it right. Positionally.

            Did he get the right man, that’s the question.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Not much on the NBA, here.

          • BearDown100393

            They’ve been Reinsdorfed.

        • Cubsnlinux

          And then the headlines would read that the Bears are so remorseful with their #2 pick just after a day that they didn’t even let him go to the city’s playoff game. Damned if you do and damned if you don’t.

      • ButtonShoes

        I don’t think the boos for Trubisky were especially meant for him. He was just a stand-in for the hate people are feeling towards the Bears front office. They booed Trubisky because they couldn’t boo Pace or McCaskey.

    • Welcome to Chicago!

    • Cormonster

      Living on a lighted stage
      Approaches the unreal
      For those who think and feel
      In touch with some reality
      Beyond the gilded cage
      Cast in this unlikely role
      Ill-equipped to act
      With insufficient tact
      One must put up barriers
      To keep oneself intact
      Living in the limelight
      The universal dream
      For those who wish to seem
      Those who wish to be
      Must put aside the alienation
      Get on with the fascination
      The real relation
      The underlying theme

      • King of DBB

        Nicely sung Getty

        • Cormonster

          Been geeking out on Rush all week since getting my new copy of Exit…Stage Left. Lyrics are fitting. Fuck that’s a great album. Rush at their peak.

    • Malice Halice

      Well damn

    • Ron Swanson’s Mustache

      All those fans are stupid assholes.

      • ButtonShoes

        No, they’re just venting their frustration at Pace and the Bears. They can’t boo Pace in person, so they boo the new guy.

    • SC Dave

      racists

    • BerwynBomber

      Not a proud moment for CHI. Idiots.

      But maybe it bodes well. PHI infamously booed the McNabb pick and he had a Romo-level career.

      • ButtonShoes

        Yeah but Philly boos everyone. They boo Santa.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Fuck them all in the asshole with a syphillitic rat’s cock. Scumbags.

    • BearDown100393

      Jay shrugs his shoulders.

  • Malice Halice

    Can we do a poll on which guy we gotta play in our schedule that we’ll regret the most, or do the most damage against us. Not to be negative Nancy but it could be fun!

    • MB30SD

      Do we play the Jets? Or 9ers? Or ravens.?

      …shit, just about anyone

      • Malice Halice

        Nope! Adam’s won’t be forgotten

      • Malice Halice

        Since we know the draft was about O you got more options to include

    • Irish Sweetness

      Can we do a poll asking WTF Pace was doing passing up Baker and Obi??

      • BearDown100393

        Meth.

  • Cubsnlinux

    I remember a lot of Cubs fans not so long ago calling Ricketts cheap, front office dumb for not taking any pitching etc. etc. Only Theo’s past successes prevented a complete meltdown of Cubs nation.

    • King of DBB

      So what you are saying is Ryan Pace is the Linus Torvalds of baseball?

      • Cubsnlinux

        I don’t think the Bears are OSS where Pace gets to write the Kernel and us blog geniuses contribute the rest. I am just pointing out how impulsive, arrogant and spiteful people can become with sports analyzing every move from their couches.

        • SC Dave

          Cubs fans sure have become smug after winning one title in 110 fucking years.

          • Sahr Gborie

            winning will do that to you

          • BerwynBomber

            It’s more than just winning last year though. They have a dynasty in the making. They’re a juggernaut.

          • Cubsnlinux

            About time!

          • BerwynBomber

            Cubs fans were smug even before they won. Now they’re insufferable.

          • Malice Halice

            As a White Sox fan since the championship I got like 200 bucks worth of memorabilia. Shit, I was 14 when da White Sox won. Cubs was way more dramatic win. The rain delay. Chapman almost Ryan Paced us

          • Malice Halice

            4got 2 mention it was cubs gear that I bought btw

          • BerwynBomber

            Agreed BUT the White Sox win was much more unexpected.

            Cubs are fucking loaded. And they were huge favorites last year. Even in the WS. Cubs fourth starter — Lackey — was better than any guy among CLE starters except Kluber.

            But yeah, Maddon almost blew it.

          • Cubsnlinux

            The loyal fans are smug because they kept the faith during all those years when it was fashionable and hip to root for the Yankees or since the last decade for the Red Sox.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Linux by name, Linux by nature. MWAH!

      • MB30SD

        He’s more like Charlie Brown.

        Good grief​

    • BerwynBomber

      A Cubs fan meltdown? Since when? They could lose a 100 games and 3 million still went to the park. Year after year after year.

      Theo and Ricketts have done a fantastic job. But the Cubs were a gold mine in a sport where there is no salary cap and the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

      Credit Epstein. He’s the best GM in the game. But the Cubs had built-in advantages that very, very, very few organizations have in the big four leagues.

      • Cubsnlinux

        I bet you didn’t listen to any Cubs radio or read comments on Cubs blogs? Lot of folks were mad that Scott freakin Feldman was traded off for some no name Arrieta and Cubs were cheap not to pay Samardjiza, Cubs are a big market team so they didn’t have to tank yada yada. Wrigley has its own allure so filling Wrigley has no part in it. For most who went there during the dark years and even now, it is the best open air beer garden and not because they were on-board with the plan.

    • ButtonShoes

      There is no comparison between Theo Epstein and Ryan Pace. None. And, while I wish it were otherwise, building a championship team in football is a different beast than doing it in baseball. The only commonality is building through the draft, but you do so in fundamentally different ways in either sport. Theo understands how do to it in baseball. I’ve seen no evidence that Pace knows how to do it in football.

      • Cubsnlinux

        Absolutely, agree 100%. I was comparing fan angst against the moves at the time those moves were made.

    • Sactowns#1

      Who the fuck are you johnny (let pace cum on your face) lately bitches? Go back to the home you climbed out of you Pace apologist.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Who pissed in your cheerios? He’s been around, and posted on and off all year.

      • Cubsnlinux

        Hmm.. I have been here all year man. May be you would have seen if you didnt have your head deep inside one of your sure fire can’t miss draft pick’s .. you know where

      • Johnnywad

        Aaaaaand again.

      • CanadaBear

        Lighten up Francis.

  • Cubsnlinux

    This is a multi-year project for Pace or anyone else and we have holes everywhere. QB is the most important position in Football and no guarantees if we are going to pick this high again in the near future. If there is a time for a young QB to learn on the side with a team that has no expectations to go deep this is it. Pace bet his career and bought a high risk high reward lottery ticket (like all draft picks).

    • Sactowns#1

      A) who the fuck are you?
      B) go fuck yourself you Pace plant
      C) please see points A and B

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        wow Sac, you ok? He is not the only one that thinks this way.

      • Cubsnlinux

        Wow.. looks like you really lost your shit.

      • Johnnywad

        Adding thoughtful content as usual I see.

  • Irish Sweetness

    We traded down with Budda and Obi on the board?

    Fuck you Ryan. Fuck. You.

    • AlbertInTucson

      SMH.

      • MB30SD

        He’s right Al. A big te?! Did we really NEED that?

        • Sahr Gborie

          Might as well have just taken OJ Howard

          • Irish Sweetness

            I was in one fantasy land hoping we’d trade back to like 15, and be almost forced to draft Howard.

            We got the baby-faced assassin instead. That’s more exciting than a fancy new TE. To pull off bold strateegery and get them both would have been a thing, wouldn’t it?

        • AlbertInTucson

          I was not expressing dissent.

          • MB30SD

            Ahhh

      • Irish Sweetness

        A ball-hawk or an enforcer at the FS position, Al.

        You takes yer pick.

        Ten years.

        Mayock on Obi:

        Pick Analysis: “Now we’re getting into the freak zone. He’s a genetic freak. I thought his tape was really solid. What I like is he’s a matchup player. … His movement skills for his length, his ability to get in and out of breaks, his tackling, he’s got first-round talent all-day long.” — Mike Mayock

        Instead, we get another TE.

  • BerwynBomber

    Watched the Shaheen YT highlight tape. Looks like he has some meanness to him and is faster than you might think. But tough to judge from a) pure highlight tape, and b) DII competition.

    Some of the video looks HS quality.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Can he play Safety?

    • He looked to me like a D1 prospect dominating a HS game against some shitty small-school team.

      Obviously big, fast, and strong, and seems to have pretty good hands. If you build a prototypical TE, that’s him. Now it’s a question of whether that can all translate into an effective NFL player.

  • AlbertInTucson

    So, the GM completely emasculating his head coach in the process of selecting the team’s 1st round pick doesn’t make the top “5 Thoughts…”?

    • Big Mike

      The reporter who broke that story is Chris Mortenson. He has recanted his comment. “John Fox very involved in #Bears draft process w Mitch Trubisky. Decision crystallized for GM R. Pace as scenarios played out early eve.”

      • AlbertInTucson

        Nice work, Mort!

        Maybe you should go get in the unemployment line with those hundred colleagues your company gave pink slips to this week?

      • AlbertInTucson

        Is there a link to that retraction because I haven’t seen one, yet.

        Tiki Barber used the (now erroneous?) item to trash the pick in his CBS Sports. Minute on Friday.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Thank you, Big Mike.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Here’s a funny scenario.

    The Bears being in a position to draft Sam Darnold next year.

    • BerwynBomber

      I like Mason Rudolph too but I want to see him for another year.

      Appreciated Kiper’s take on Kizer coming out as a red-shirt soph tonight. Was potentially a little ignorant in regard to what a kid’s financial situation might be, but otherwise he was spot-on.

    • ButtonShoes

      If that happened, it might make all this misery worth it. The one thing I’d be afraid of is Ryan Pace fucking up the pick if he had it.

    • Irish Sweetness

      You do it in a heartbeat.

      Trade bait galore. You trade Trubisky and Glennon, maybe sign Cutty!

      Sam looks like the real deal.

      • CanadaBear

        I’m sure Cutler would be champing at the bit to resign with Chicago.

    • Ososfan

      I’d let someone trade the farm for the dude. Trubs, @ that point would have a year of NFL seasoning under his belt, and “has potential to be a championship QB”(RYAN Pace)

    • chitownproud85

      If hes still viewed as the no-brainer number 1 a year from now(far, far from a given at this point), then you pull the trigger and have a very, very nice problem on your hands. Thats a long time from now, and a lot can change in a year…

  • BerwynBomber

    Would be interesting to know the traded up for prospects in the draft. Trubisky/Mahomes/Watson are obvious. But the other I caught was Buddha Baker in the 2nd round by ARI.

    Anyone track the others?

    • willbest

      Outside of those here are some more in the first 2 rounds

      Falcons moved up 5 spots to get Takkarist McKinley
      Browns moved up 4 spots to get David Njoku
      San Fran moved up 3 spots to get Reuben Foster
      Jags moved up a spot to get Cam Robinson
      Bills moved up 7 spots to get Zay Jones
      Vikings Moved up 7 spots to get Dalvin Cook
      Bills moved up 12 spots to get Dion Dawkins

      A bunch of moves in the 3rd too
      Saints moved up for Alvin Kamara
      Vikings moved up for Pat Elflein
      Baltimore moved up for Tim Williams (which involved a player trade in addition to draft pick swap)
      Patriots traded up to get Antonio Garcia

      • Ososfan

        I think Jags knew we wanted Robinson. As soon as that happend bears traded down

      • Big Mike

        Thanks for summary

  • Irish Sweetness

    Mitch’s full Presser :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyUy5ow6c10

    If he grows a beard, he’s the guy. But wow, the database of programmed responses. He’ll be fine.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Some White kid schools Stephen A. Smith and McNabb on the trade.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXWr-vxCggY

  • Irish Sweetness

    Looking at Shaheen’s highlights.

    Are these scrimmages? WTF?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnAGUlkKD6s

    • Ososfan

      He looks like a beast

      • Sahr Gborie

        against people with no talent. lets wait and see what he can do.

        • Irish Sweetness

          This. It looked like a backwater HS stadium where nobody gives a fuck about football because they’re Lacrosse champions or some shit.

          That was a hell of a reach, and cost us a FS.

          • MB30SD

            In the SECOND Rd. Shocking

          • Irish Sweetness

            Could have signed Gary Barnidge for no picks.

          • Johnnywad

            Irish. You love to gush on and on about certain player’s performances in preseason games and their fitness for NFL duty. How is this different?

            I really would have preferred a safety here. But that’s one big, strong, fast white boy. Hard to argue with the size/speed combo and he’s got some college basketball pedigree thrown in as well. He started his college athletic career playing basketball and decided to switch to football if I understand the back story correctly.

            As with all draft picks, we’ll have to wait and see. But the measurables and mean streak sure appear to be there. One things for sure, Pace doesn’t give a flying fuck about outside perception. He’s running his own show. I admire that. I just hope he’s right.

    • Sactowns#1

      No. I think Devry of Phoenix Technical Institute has to play at whichever high school field isn’t in use that day.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Hats off to John Lynch. Good Irish name that. Sean Lynch. But really.

    1. Trades down from 2, gets who he was going to draft anyway, plus gets a bunch of picks.

    2. Gets Reuben Foster by trading back up.

    3. Grabs a 6’3 Corner.

    4. Gets quite possibly his franchise QB in Beathard (and probably my third favorite QB in the draft) … with a compensatory third rounder.

    Hats off, Sir.

    • MB30SD

      O. Fleeces a 3rd year gm in his first year.

      • BearDown100393

        Pace promised a future job under Lynch.

        • MB30SD

          Errand boy

      • For the last damn time, that trade was not a fleece. Pace needed a QB and got his QB. There is a long line of precedent for that being a damn expensive move to make.

        We have no clue if Trubisky will pan out or not, but to say the trade was a fleecing is 100% ignorant.

        • Johnnywad

          That’s what’s bothering me Wood. Every single damn Bears fan wanted new QBs. Pace pulls the trigger and buys one with potential, rents an emergency one, and finally drafts one while the Bears are in striking distance of the top of the draft. And it’s all completely shit on.

          I’d love to know how he could have attempted to “fix” the QB situation any more effectively than he has.

          He’s damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. I guess it’s a good thing he’s ignoring the masses and trusting himself.

          • Cubsnlinux

            Preach

          • willbest

            He just has to know who the dak, Brady, Wilson are and pick them up in the 3rd so we save 60 million paying them below market wages

          • chitownproud85

            Yeap.

        • MB30SD

          Sure man, sure

          How do you like the TE in the high second from itt?

          • Honestly had never heard of the guy, but I didn’t really do much pre-draft stuff this year, so that’s not surprising.

            I would have preferred a S there, but the kid is big, fast, and strong, and it certainly seems he dominated D2 competition. Now the question is how well that translates to the NFL. Time will tell.

            One thing that made me happy to see: Benjamin Allbright said the Broncos were considering him for their round 2 pick, and they’ve done a good job of drafting and developing TEs under Elway.

          • MB30SD

            He isn’t fast man. A 4.8 is not fast in the NFL… He was the 11th fastest TE this year.

            Did you watch his tape on the new thread… It’s like he played against high school kids in college.

            This pick was ridiculous.

            It’s like pace has gone nuts man. Total 180 from what I expected him to do this draft. Not a fan at all.

          • He has average-above average speed and athleticism pretty much across the board compared to all Combine TEs over the last 15 or so years, despite being one of the biggest. (source: https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/adam-shaheen)

            That makes him a good athlete; his SPARQ score (a measure of athleticism relative to size) is in the 70th percentile for NFL prospects. (https://3sigmaathlete.com/rankings/te/)

            Who knows if he’ll actually pan out or not, but there is no denying he has the tools. Very raw, but a lot of “draftnik” guys I respect on Twitter liked him (even those who aren’t Bears fans).

          • leftcoast dave

            Got basketball player hands and doesn’t look like he’s carrying all that weight. The kid could be something else.

          • seems like an ideal project pick for round 4, not round 2 to me. I think it was a bit of a reach. But time will tell. He certainly has the potential to turn into a stud, but you should be able to say that about pretty much every pick that high.

        • MB30SD

          You’re right… according to people who supposedly know, we fleeced ourselves. If you want to take him at 3 great, stake your career on a one year wonder from a shitty school… But to give that up for one spot when no one was willing to pay an idiot’s random but us.

          Call it whatever you want man, I just pray that kid actually works out. It was a massive risk I don’t think we had the luxury of taking

          • Johnnywad

            Cmon MB. You know the talking heads are wrong more than they’re right.

            Let’s see what the kid can do. I’ll agree it seems like a lot to give up to move up one spot. But we sit here on this blog day in and day out reading posts about “coulda had this guy, coulda had that guy”. Pace identified his guy and took him. Gave up some middle round picks to do so, but that’s a pittance if it worked. Let’s just hope it worked.

            Don’t be sore.

          • leftcoast dave
          • Johnnywad

            Hahaha. The Chipotle Prospect.

          • leftcoast dave

            Dude already angling for an endorsement deal!

          • MB30SD

            nah, not sore… just sad pace totally blew out what I thought he was. thought he was going to blow up this draft… but not the way he did.

            Thought he’d take thomas @ 3, then get back into the late 1st for another D stud in the dbackfield (3rd best safety maybe), then take something unexpected but with huge upside in the 3rd, then a butt-like pick with our remaining 4th… or even peterman or LCD’s qb (can’t remember his name)

            His entire draft was dogshit dude. that wite TE from some tiny school… in the 2nd!?!?! a TE?!!? like, what in thee fuck man.

            I’m just over it, and unless trubz becomes a flaco/ryan/romo level guy in the next couple years, it was a blown draft. totally blown. A few key injuries on our D and we’re going to be lucky to get to 3-13 again.

            Demoralizing.

          • leftcoast dave

            Some thought he might go in the second. He’s big and carries it well with great hands.

    • leftcoast dave

      Dude must have been blogging here under a pseudonym. Reading our posts.

  • Big Mike

    Desmond King CB/ Free safety – Iowa please

    • Irish Sweetness

      5’10 Mike?

      6’3 David Jones, please. What’s Richmond?

      Josh-Harvey Clemons, 6’4

      Pace needs to fix this.

      • Big Mike

        He projects as a free safety, not a corner. Has the best cover skills of anyone left in the draft.

    • leftcoast dave

      He was part of my Hawkeye draft with George Kittle, C. J. Beathard and Jaleel Johnson.

      • Big Mike

        He’d be graded higher as a free safety, which is where the Bears should use him. Most years, I think he is a 2nd round pick.

  • Irish Sweetness

    There’s a safety from Airforce called Weston Steelhammer. 6’2.

    Jadar Johnson! SAfety, Clemson! We’v found him …..

    Jadar the Radar!

    Oh come on, we’ve got to have a Safety called Radar.

  • Shady

    Mitch Trubisky = Mr. Buscuit

    You’re welcome.

  • leftcoast dave

    Getting the top QB in the draft for Value: Our first, a third round 3 plus a third and fourth and next years third.

    The Rams gave up a 1 -15 two 2’s 43 and 45 and a third 70 plus 2017 first and third to get Goff.

    The Eagles gave up a 1-8 a 3-77, the 100 (low 3 hi 4?) Plus 2017 first and third to get Wentz.

    Only Cleveland or SF could have had him cheaper because they “earned” it.

  • Joecashflow

    Ok I’m going to try and not be a negative Nancy as much but Jackson coming off a broken LEG? We have any experience in that ? Maybe stay away from risk? Nope, every pick is high risk. Ok I feel better. ,

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    GREATEST DRAFT EVER!!! I like every pick.

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